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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2016
- Elizabeth Holmes, the CEO of Theranos, escorted CNN Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta around her famously secretive research and development lab.
'The Dropout' offers an eye-opening view of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos
by Brian Lowry, CNN
(CNN) Elizabeth Holmes has been a source of fascination for many since glimpsing the husky-voiced, wide-eyed persona she affected in Alex Gibney's documentary "The Inventor: Out for Blood in Silicon Valley." Amanda Seyfried nails all of that in "The Dropout," a slick Hulu docuseries devoted to Holmes' rise and Shakespearean fall, as well as the gender dynamics at play throughout.
Boasting an inordinately good cast in even relatively minor roles, the series adopts an unexpectedly sympathetic posture toward Holmes, at least in the early going, as she seized on the idea of improving the blood-testing process before dropping out of Stanford to pursue her vision.
Part of that ambition, it's surmised, stemmed from watching her father's struggles thanks to working at Enron, although she clearly derived the wrong anything-to-win lesson from that experience.
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The rise and fall of Elizabeth Holmes: A timeline
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She should’ve gone into PR or marketing. She clearly has the talent to say anything while saying nothing
@@Yasmine-mm1yc should would make bad decisions for the people. No
I hate how she knows that putting her hands in her pockets is a way for her to seem relaxed and casual in light of all her success and professionalism.
@@steverogers7601 To me it just seems disrespectful
@@Blue2024_rs yea, that too
Yeah she could have been a Presidential Candidate in 15-20 years.(D)
Never trust a human that doesn't blink
Actually she does
She have crazy eyesssssssssssssssssssssss
The turtleneck was the clear indicator
Well, your fears have now been proven true. Good call. ;)
That would be an android, not human.
The fact that she tries to blame the errors on the personnel and leadership while maintaining that the devices worked perfectly despite that being exactly the opposite of the actual truth is sickening. Those people worked with extreme guilt and frustration to try to make her dream come true, and she threw them under the bus.
Also she got Knocked up just to try to stay out of Jail. Shell do anything to serve herself even get pregnant at JUST the right time
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I think that also.
Didnt one guy kill himself over it?
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I agree. Twice!
Didn't stop prison for her in the end though.
@@GypsyGirl317she will serve about 4 of them years and go back to old tricks
She claims one moment that they "didn't have the right leadership in place" but then claims they've got the best people in charge of investigating the problems.... "I'm not the lab director" -- "But you are the CEO." Good job there, Dr. Gupta.
Does that sound almost word for word like a certain President-turned-dictator??
@@jonathangoodman2636 Another person who doesn’t take responsibility for anything.
This Gupta guy is either an idiot or he was in on it. He is an MD. He should have known this type of testing is not possible.
If only career politicians were held accountable like this lol
@@jonathangoodman2636 In two years the voters will have a chance to choose another President.
CNN: asks a question
Holmes: 👁👁
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LOL BEST COMMENTAry. those big eyes LOL
Maybe if she took more than two chemical engineer courses, she would've learned the difficulty and improbability of conducting 200-something blood tests with just a few drops of blood.
Blood taken from a fingertip is pretty much contaminated from the start. What a stupid idea. What the hell is wrong with people? Are they this easily led by a not-very-smart, unbalanced bitch?
John Carreyrou wrote in his book BAD BLOOD that he felt gender was definitely a factor in her phenomenal rise and the lack of rigorous questioning (Walgreen's putting her useless untested crap in their stores!) It was also tied to that Aryan ideal of blonde and blue-eyed (bulging blue eyes that never blinked, as in a cult leader). Now those very traits seem creepy, but back then they were mesmerizing. The incredulity that a woman like that could accomplish anything spoke volumes. When I look at early interviews, it always seems to be older men doing an amazed, gosh-gee-whiz, "look at this amazing young lady" crap, while she sat there and nodded vapidly. I am creeped out because it is obvious to me they would NOT have done any of this with an older woman, a less-attractive woman, a black woman, or a man. th-cam.com/video/uJDc4tOU3zo/w-d-xo.html
But she knew from the beginning she couldn't do it. She just wanted the allure and wealth of a Steve jobs so much that she was willing to deceive everyone just to get there. She wanted the facade of being a grand figure
Even John Carreyrou paints her as an idealist with a dream who somehow went off the rails, or decided success had to come at any price. I just think she's a creepy sociopathic bitch.
@@FateofFallacy .....I completely agree and to be so delusional into thinking she could get away with it.
How she was able to get away with this for so long is terrifying!
They didn't even bother to check basic medical knowledge, didn't even think to find out about 'other' medical pros
*about their opinion and what they think based on their expertize
She got away with it because the woke world really WANTED to believe she did it. So much inertia was built in to think we finally had a self-made female billionaire, that the whole idea that it was all smoke and mirrors, was a non-starter.
It's the art of the con. She conned the f out of everyone.
Because for the woke, her being a woman was more important than her being right.
The impact Theranos has had on blood testing companies is still relevant today. Because of how ridiculous the claims Theranos made, investors who didn't have the medical or technical knowledge unfortunately fell for the snake oil. All investment money for the blood testing market went to Theranos, meaning that companies who were making real blood testing kits that were trying to realistically improve the current equipment weren't getting any funding, because Theranos took it all away. Then, because so many investors got burned by Theranos since they were lying about the technology, blood testing companies still have trouble collecting funds because Theranos scared all the investors away from the industry since they now view it as a scam.
Given how much it infected the entire industry, that company may as well have been called Thetanos.
Excellent point. I wonder if this was regarded during the sentencing?
Oh wow, I was really interested to learn her backstory and watched a few docs however, I'd never thought of it in the way you mentioned it. By bullsh*thing investors about her miracle machine (Edison) they all started funding Theranos so no other R&D companies who were legitimate, received anything because of this. So by being a fraudulent charlatan and promising tech that was years ahead of the current methodology, she literally sent blood work/analysis and diagnosis years back in the other direction! What a p.o.s.
Great point.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Nothing but a word salad and a pretend world.
Young dropouts may be able to make it in the IT industry, but in the medical field the stakes are much higher
Maniesh Ramanayake Yes, people’s lifes!!!
True. IT industry we can buy it. While Medical industry we cant buy a lab at home.
Unless you are a genius with physician parents or medical approach and lots of awknolegde because you grew up in that field..but she isn't...
yes you are right i am myself an dropout and working in IT field! Bars for IT fields are quite know it all depends on if you know how to code but in medicine we deal with human lifes.
@@abhishekkilab3996 my 7 years old knows how to code,but the age of 18 he might not need a college degree to create or work for someone, but medicine is proven that it doesn't matter how well educated are the doctors, they all of them said,u never stop learning and research for answers....this bitch played everyone lol
“We meet the quality standards that we hold ourselves to.”
Slick wording, but an honest statement. They held themselves to VERY low quality standards.
That quote is hilarious. LOL
thats called running lean for profits. Do it right and you win, run too lean you lose
Or you could say there was never quality testing because the machine DID NOT WORK AT ALL. lol
Shit its like shes talking about cnn too
AWESOME COMMENTARY LOL
This is ridiculously interesting 6 years later
What she said about not having the right leadership in the lab is such a huge insult to Ian G.
She goes into management speak, says lots without saying anything
Anyone else watching this in 2018 and reading the old comments and laughing ?
Yes, and all I can think is when will this bitch go to jail?
Read the book man. I just read the book (Bad Blood). And now I am watching these videos to get some visuals.
How's the book?
@dannylgonzal The book reads like a very good thriller. About 200 pages. I could not put it down once I started reading.
Me. Especially since she has been indicted on wire and fraud charges.
She doesn't seem to answer anything directly.
all she looks so creepy just like a psychopath i feel nauseous looking at her face
She's a master at deception and avoiding questions by still answering them
Conservative Hamster sounds like trump
And yet! People found her charming, beautiful, spellbinding, charismatic, etc. A kind of sorceress who could do no wrong.
Dewan M Durnto she’s either robot or a lizard person. I see no in between
My sister worked at Theranos
She tells me that almost EVERYONE working in the company were very very suspicious about the company and it's technology very early on.
Any college phlebotomist student can tell you that Theranos’s claims were illogical, irrational, impossible, and defied common sense.
Shame on them all for keeping quiet so long
Who's searching thru these old videos after watching the Drop Out?
When she calls her investors "sophisticated" at 5:00, she's not complimenting them, she's establishing a defense. It's a legal term. A sophisticated investor is one who is considered to be financially savvy enough to basically perform their own due diligence.
Thank you!
If her investors had a grain of intuition, as in - “if it sounds too good to be true, then it probably isn’t,” they could’ve kept their money. Apparently if they spoke with the medical professionals, they would have known it was impossible. Due diligence always pays off. ✌️
Yes he got her with that question it took her for little while to answer!
All of the investors that got caught up in this are greedy old coks
The thing is investors that did so where turned down for asking too many questions
I don't think you can really do due diligence on a stealth company though...
ya know its bullshit when the ceo is presented in a labcoat but has no lab experience besides a frog in 9th grade biology.
It immediately reminded me of the picture of Ivanka Trump in a lab coat the Trump crime family put out there.
It's not even a lab! It's a set. Real labs are merely functional, not carefully set up with color-coordinated beakers arranged like a Martha Stewart spread.
Hahahah, and the frog had to explain things to her.
@Scorpio everything you say is correct except the last part. She dropped out sophomore year. What professional grade lab experience do you think she really has?
@Scorpio you've taken avery definitive stand on something about which you're no even interested in finding out more. This is not a conversation worth having.
FunFact: Of the nearly $1 billion that "Theranos" squandered from investors, over *$300 million* went towards legal fees.
Lol crime pays off uk
@@juanmario True. But I think that'll be small comfort when her toddler visits behind prison walls.
@@mulemule who knows we'd think that she has kids by now but none so I don't think that'll be an issue and even then she might still find the reward at the end worth it because she still has that money to lol will never know
@@juanmario She and her (latest) millionaire-meal-ticket had a son last year. The birth conveniently won her yet another trial delay ... and, of course, garnered her sympathy from the subsequent jury. (However, I'm guessing Ian Gibbons' widow wasn't invited to the baby shower.)
there's no such thing as 300 Million in legal fees. Also, she made millions and millions with Sunny, so their bank-accounts are massive and protected. they can never take all of her money because there is so much. Can you imagine how much she probably has in illegal overseas accounts?
Trying to become the youngest ANYTHING in a field like medicine is ludicrous. If it happens then that’s great, but the goal should always be to acquire as much knowledge as possible. Learn and the answers will come to you that way. Her tutor was right, you can’t skip steps
Indeed. And I guess that's the crux of the issue, isn't it. Her field was NOT medicine. It was Big-Tech Start-Up, which is basically Silicon Valley's Kindergarten. And in her grand hubristic vision of herself posturing as the ''Female Steve Jobs'' and all, she thought she could just throw into it whatever would come off as the most altruistic, and that a few minor glitches here and there would largely go unnoticed or simply be ignored. And when shit hit the fan, she really milked that woman card for all it was worth, to such an extent that she happenned to get pregnant twice, at oddly convenient times, while on trial. Those poor kids will likely get bullied a lot. (which I do not condone, by the way, especially as a bullying survivor myself).
She is an insane sociopath, BUT i am impressed by her amazing ability to speak. She uses words and answers question like a public relations professional. She would have gone miles in politics. Wow!
Yup. Came here from the podcast “the dropout”.
There's such a sadness in her eyes, it's truly unnerving... she's clinging onto this false reality like her life depends on it
@@juuliq6 It may have. Who got out first and left the other people losing money?
yup
@@rachelhurt7271 Thank god she fucked that up for herself. Can you imagine what bullshit she'd be peddling in politics?
The fact that she fooled so many billionaires tells us that those business people really dont know anything.
They don’t care about the product, they only care about what money the product will deliver. If you see a graph tell you that you take over a huge share in a highly saturated market, you’ll jump at the chance because it’s big money. After all, her idea isn’t completely intangible. This WILL become a thing once technology catches up.
She also convinced a Jury that she had no intent to harm patients. Ahhh...to be skinny, pale, blonde with big blue eyes is truly a blessing.
@@TheQueenrevolution and enough cash 💰 to afford the best lawyers too 😏
Well that’s not true. There are plenty of business people who do know something - they saw through her BS and didn’t invest.
@@TheQueenrevolution Nah she doesn’t have pretty privilege or even feminine energy. She just knew how to talk and fool people.
When the reporter's test came back that he was a 12 year-old Japanese girl, he began to have questions...
As a 26 year old entrepreneur, i was looking for inspiring business movies or series to watch. It is now 3 AM, i could not stop binging The Dropout series. I stumbled onto this without diving too deep in the trailers. During episode 1,2 and 3 i was rooting for Elizabeth because the entrepreneurial spirit it takes to overcome obstacles. About 4 episodes in i started hating this woman with every fiber in me. By the time she changed her voice to be more "deep" i was about to pull my hair out. Can you imagine the bone chilling shock i got at the end of episode 8 when they started listing the real-life case updates, it was literally just then that i realized this was a real life event. I am young and not from the US, so i never heard of Theranos or the real Elizabeth. This is insane on a level unimaginable. Elizabeth, you are a disgrace to all Women, Humanity and the entire Entrepreneur Society. The fact that even after all this, you can remain cool about your crimes proves you are a psychopathic monster with alien eyes, a demons hart and an insufferable pretentious voice. I hope justice prevails in honor of all lives lost, families ruined financially or in health. F YOU!
Thanks for your comments. Unfortunately, this lady will get away with the crimes she committed, I agree, she is a psychopath, but she is also a great manipulator of all times, she will have the judge under her wings.
It goes to show you, being skeptical is a good thing. Many professions required skepticism to avoid bias judgement. We as human are not perfect, we have emotions and at times our emotions clouded our judgement. Never trust only words but actions and results.
Read and analyze the DATA, don't listen opinions.
Justice was serve, she'll be spending more than 11 years in prison.
@@MikeFelix1805 I strongly believe there is a high possibility that she may not go to jail. She is very clever and she will have another surprise coming out of her sleeves. The fact her jail time is being postponed and she is appealing is a good indicator that she is not going to serve. Even assuming she sever a few months, it's like staying at Hilton Hotel for a few short months.
This is an insult to real Medical techs who studied and work for years just to provide the best outcome for their clients.
Is it just me or did that woman do the finger prick wrong? I always thought you had to wipe away the first drop of blood and it looks like she didn’t.
@@rachelhurt7271 Yeah, that’s what the Red Cross does when they test my hemoglobin. There’s a test you can do with a drop of blood. Blood sugar, you can do with a drop. CBC nah.
What puzzles me is how she has people working at her lab? Like, how did she find medical techs to work at her lab without them finding out that this whole thing is bs?
Don’t worry, you all are vindicated.
The fact that even Sanjay Gupta uses the term “machine,” instead of “instrument” tells you that the medical laboratory field is a specialized space writhing medicine where our expertise as Medical Lab Scientists is valuable. We should be regarded as the authority in that field, not a physician and let alone a college dropout.
Holmes is wasting her natural talent. Instead of running this fraudulent company, she ought to be voicing a young Darth Vader in the next two Star Wars movies.
Thing is she was talented enough to make a 9 billion dollar company based on lies, pretty scary.
@@DMalltheway Thats not talent thats investers being idiots. Also thats 9 Billion on paper - actual money raised was 800 mil or something. Valuation went to 9 billion based on "potential".
@@pradipgorkhali It is for being a bullshitter.
She said she didn’t have proper leadership and then one question later said she had the best people in place 🤦🏻♂️
She said they put the best ppl in place but wrong leadership refers to management in this case. Someone was failing.
Would have loved it if Sanjay Gupta appeared in an episode of The Dropout.
"Am not the lab director......" words no CEO of a biotech company should ever utter.
She is not a doctor but an engineer who did not graduate
@@Cazador60140so?
@@Cazador60140 Can you honestly call her an engineer at that point?
Her whole conversation just sounds like a confused AI bot.
“You’re sure it works”
“I’m confident in that”
Famous last words
"Sure bro"
"trust me bro"
@@sparkles7111 😂😂
Sanjay really deserves a Pulitzer Prize for this. And an Oscar for Holmes, of course.
This young lady has a very trusting face. I’m ready to invest my life savings in her company.
Not to mention a voice of an angel.
@@Ryan_L her extensive background and education in biomedical engineering is also promising
She went to Stanford, that's enough for me to put my trust in her!
Really??? Her eyes look awfully open just like a psychopath does... I could not trust her.
Her sweet dulcet tones make me want to throw myself in front of a bus for her
she looks like she is about to cry, and hasnt seen sunlight in a long long while
now we know why she is about to cry
She is now 😂
Sorta looks like Nicole Kidman.
"blush suppression meds" lol
Seán O'Nilbud
Xanax
As the whole scam collapsed around her she showed no outward signs of distress or concern, just total confidence as ease as she LIED HER ASS OFF. ... Holmes is a TRUE MASTER of the Art Of Psychopathy.
100% Truth:)
She thought she could surpass decades of science... By using a team less qualified than those that actually have tried solving this blood testing mystery.. the arrogance..
This aged like fine wine.
Dear ex-Theranos investors, I have technology to teleport humans. I will do a demo where a person will be on one pod. Then, we will all walk to the other pod on the 2nd floor and you'll see the same person there!
Elizabeth, you're better suited for success in politics. When you lie so much, you start to believe your own lies.
Lol, will you hire identical twins for the demo of your teleportation technology? Make sure they sign non-disclosure agreements then break out the black turtleneck jumper and talk in a deep voice to sound extra convincing and the venture capitalists will hand over lots of money.
So... an elevator?
I would like, but it's at 123 right now.
pkp413 this also proves that the investors are really lacking in gray matter even though they are rich as fuck. What a bunch of fucking gullible idiots
Oh no, if (when) we see her in politics, that's full American circle. Just look at Drumpf.
i think her ideal is george constanza
its not a lie if you belive it.
Anyone involved in laboratory science knew this technology was impossible due to inherent inaccuracy of finger stick samples. 5 minutes of due diligance would have saved investors a lot of money.
I think the real problem is that if somebody is attempting to do something that is not really feasible, people will refrain from criticizing it in fear of lawsuits. So the only people we ever heard from were the ones praising her accomplishments because no one has ever gotten sued saying hey this is great idea.
Wow. I applaud her for being able to keep their baritone voice going all the time. I am a mezzo- sap rank. My throat hurts trying to reach that range.
This clip aged well.
Imagine thinking you have a full grasp of the science - better than others even, with phds and mds, at 19
What a delusional narcissist. Made others believe that as well
Kind of like how Trump said, "I alone can fix it" when it came to all of our foreign policy issues.
Sounds exactly like Donald Trump. Can’t wait for his trial.
@@jerometaperman7102 How is trump even involved in this? He lives in your brain rent free
She never thought that. She was a con artist the whole time
The interviewer said it exactly. He didn't even understand what she was talking about because she's just been bullshitting all the time.
I’m reading bad blood right now and it’s sooo good it explains this from the start, lots of people introduced so far and I love it. Even a notable friend of Steve Jobs, Avie Tevanian
Steve Jobs was a genius, and she was of the same cloth
Man she even smiles of nervousness when trying to explain her ""invention"". What a revolutionary straight-A student and brilliant scientist .
I was one of those patients in Arizona, luckily, my health was not drastically affected.
Would you be ok telling us your story?
How long did it take you to get your results back?
🙏
Sure
"I'm not the lab director" takes a second for any scam leader to reveal themselves
The actual lab director was like a massage parlor employee or something for the last few years of the company's existence. After the real one quit.
I saw the dropout on Hulu based on her and it was weird cause I was rooting for her in the beginning because it would have been an amazing idea and revolutionary but the business blurred her consciousness and vision that she lost her way.
Her face expression and her response at 4:18 is beyond scary. A criminal
Funny how she loses her ‘deep’ voice as the questioning intensifies
"I'm a doctor, I'm a scientist. And it takes me sometimes to understand all that you are talking about and I'm not so sure that I understand all of it."
That must be a drill bit going through her heart.
You can tell she was about to cry right after
@@someguyslastname8487 ?
@@someguyslastname8487 lmao she's a woman and took a second to respond, must have been about to cry 🤦🏼♀️
@@harleyquiinnnn she did look nervous and teary eyed
What heart?
How did she manage to pull this off for 7 years? Incredible!
And 6 years later sentenced to 11 years in prison for fraud.
Those eyes say: “Hi, I’m a full-blown psychopath!” Her skin-tone, voice, and manner of dress suggest: “Velcome to my castle...let’s test your blood...”
Hey, I like vampires and she's not like a vampire.... She only takes a few drops..... Then doesn't do anything useful with those drops. A vampire will take anywhere form a pint to all of it and then, once they have it, they use it satisfy their hunger-thirst, which is very useful, for the vampire.
Wow! She keeps insisting that her technology works when it has been proven it doesn't. She had the chance to redeeem herself at the AACC, and she blew it. I watched the entire AACC Theranos presentation, and I was so disappointed. I really wanted her to succeed. She can't show any data about her Edison machine because the data just proves it doesn't work.
and now in 2019 she is being sued...
Sandra S and now In 2021 she’s been sentenced and hanged under the new martial regime
You were dead on
Joseph Charles Colin - The NEW FACE of Art me or op??
@@abdicolestudios8899 Mary was dead on in her comments
Came here after watching "Dropout". Scary.
Amanda Seyfried really mastered her deep & weird monotone voice.
how was she allow to do lab work she dropped out of college
For profit medical systems particular without much oversight allows our psychopathic economic culture to produce this fraud and other types of racketeering.
Imagine the harm this bitch and others in this company could have harmed many; and the so called investors some who sat on the board looking at dollars without any gumption or thought on science.
If you kill someone because you didn't see or know there was a stop sign, you're still liable for vehicular manslaughter.
Ignorance doesn't relieve anyone of anything.
She, her management, and the board including former board and investors should lose it all.
This is disgusting.
Outright fraud, and idiots running into to support it.
Carl Sagan was right, a society dependent and powerful from technology that very few understand is a combustible; it will eventually explode catastrophically.
jmitterii2 very well put. In other words, she has money, so she can whatever she wants
She was already in the right network....anyone that came from a normal everyday family wouldn't have gotten where she had. Who she associated with helped her...and I think sleeping with a married man at 18/19 who is worth something like 55 million or whatever helps a lot too. Can buy the machines yourself and start running tests lol My question is why did investors think a 19 year old with no studies (only 2 semesters at a university that is probably just basic chemistry and biology) be able to create something like this? Why did these investors never require outside "clinical" studies of this machine with the thought of "I'll pay for the clinical studies from an outside party and if it passes the clinical studies then I'll invest xyz, but every year their has to be a clinical study by an non-affiliated group in order to get further investment."? It is just odd that no studies from an unbiased group was demanded or expected.
White privilege. For starters, her dad is Vice President of Enron.
@@elizabethc7696 so who cheat public, her or investors? How come she start company without showing result?
How do you go from dropping out of college to being a medical expert lol
You don't. But CNN and the western media loves this kind of Cinderella shit. Never mind that Cinderella was a fairy tale without an ounce of truth to it. Turns out, Theranos was a fairy tale too.
_You can't. Unlike stuff like coding and arts, mistakes in things like chemistry, medicine and physics can cost lives._
Oh, my sweet summer child...COVID has taught us so much since 🤣
Years of not practicing.
Just watched dropout and had never heard about this before. I am shocked to find old news stories and see that it actually went down. Surreal.
Boy this interview aged well
Thank you CNN & Dr. Sanjay Gupta for asking the hard hitting questions and keeping Elizabeth Holmes accountable.
Get this woman some Rhotos 👁 👁
If faux news had done a story on her they would have made her out to be a conservative goddess 🤣🤣🤣
@@sugarcookiecubeConservatives definitely seem to love criminals!
Does she seem to talk a bit like Zuckerberg to anyone else?
altostreeter They are both strange sociopathic perhaps psychopathic personalities. I wouldn’t be surprised if something comes out similar with Zuckerberg, of course Facebook can’t kill you like with the Theranos scam machine.
Metallurgist Music TV Crazy huh, with the new Cambridge Analytica revelation
Metallurgist Music TV It's simply autism. Nothing sociopathic
Crystal Ball I disagree. People who suffer from Autism are sweet, kind people who do not defraud investors.
Metallurgist Music TV Doesn't change the fact that they still have autism. Having austim doesn't mean you can't scam people. My point still stand.
She is obviously crazy. Her voice, her expression, her stare. For me it is unbelievable some many people gave her so much money.
She is white, they trusted her
Me 🤯 after watching the dropout on Hulu in 2022 and realizing how accurate Amanda Seyfried’s portrayal was of Elizabeth Holmes!
"At the highest level we didn't have the right leadership." Yea
... I'd say so! 😂😂
Yeah, I mean, talk about just giving yourself away.
She never showed the lab to anyone until then hahahahaha that was the biggest red flag of them all wow
So fun to watch this after the TV show!
I'm amazed by her personality. She's really intimidating, those big eyes👀, which she rarely blink and deep voice.
She always maintain the eye contact.
Its really creepy
That voice was carefully cultivated
I love how she’s acting like it was just a small quality issue. She never even developed working product, the whole thing was a giant joke. That’s like Bernie Madoff saying he must have just had a small accounting error that was overlooked
1000x worse though, because of actual lives at stake.
You can see the effort she puts in holding her eyes open.
The idea that one drop of blood could be used to test for myriad different things was absurd. Those who bought into this idea just bought into a sales pitch without rationally considering the fundamental idea behind the supposed technology.
wow amanda seyfried really did well in copying her voice and demeanor
every interview ive seen with her creeps me TF out!
basejump scares me how she ended up on all the magazine covers as a glamourpuss/brilliant entrepreneurial savant, a la Jobs. When the truth is, there is NOTHING in those eyes. Nobody's home.
basejump hahaahahh
Funny, everyone used to rave about how charismatic and beautiful she was, and about her hypnotic gaze. Now she just looks psycho. Never blinking is a Hannibal Lecter kind of thing.
basejump she’s reptilian
Danfuerth Gillis it turns out that’s not even her real voice. Some former employees said sometimes accidentally she would use a normal young woman’s voice.
"At the highest level we didn't have the right leadership in the laboratory, and we didn't have the implementation of the quality system in terms of procedures and the associative documentation to ensure that we were realising the quality standards that we were holding ourselves to" *wtf does this mean?*
IGB PROductionz if your education doesn't allow you to understand it, it doesn't mean it is "rhetoric".
Probably, you are right. Hopefully, the movie will be interesting ;)
Lazy to go in rhetoric ;), plus lack of information about the case.
She is a fraud just got convicted even worse than Shkreli I think
It means, "I'm testing to see if you're a rich dummy who will fall for this meaningless rhetoric and give me 100m in vc." And it worked...
She seems condescending to me, when she makes fun of the interviewer for calling a lancet a needle. I've spent years in college studying neuroscience and biology, and unlike her, I graduated, and then taught phlebotomy and worked in many phlebotomy labs. I understand that colloquially, lay people use the word needle to refer to a device for puncturing, like a sewing needle. She seems desperate try to assert dominance, whcih is funny when you remember that she is a drop out! She should be learning not teaching lol There's nothing dominant about an ignorant person who lies to everyone to boost their own self image. 🙄
Lol given the interviewer...dr.gupta is a neurosurgeon, she has some nerve
she looked crazy all along🤣🤣🤣
She belongs in prison.Period.
Arrogance. Pure Arrogance the entire industry.. including Holmes.
Wonderful story. Truly great journalism!
I hate it when parents use their young children to avoid prison.
"I can't go to prison. My children need me".
"We didn't have the right leadership" and "We put the best people in place." Ok honey. Probably should have finished that degree after all.
It’s honestly a great idea to have mass produced blood tests the way she showed with the Cholesterol tests. It’s a shame that she put the horse before the cart and didn’t focus on quality and making products that actually worked before deciding that she was going to be a billionaire and have her technology do all things it simply wasn’t capable of.
I said the same thing about the Fyre festival. Great idea, poor execution. lol
sick brain does wrong estimation lead by wrong goals. it'd simple all narcissistic psychopathic profiles overestimate their power.
very predictable for a spoiled child that had her "straight A" grades paid by her parents huh?
There is simply a fundamental flaw in her idea that Theranos never even ATTEMPTED to address..... blood from a fingerstick is filled with contaminants, like fat cells, interstitial fluid, etc. We do very routine fingersticks in the medical field for glucose, but any serious results get a venipuncture and lab study to confirm. And we already HAVE a rapid, handheld device that we use in emergency medicine called an I-stat.... but guess what: it still uses blood from the vein AND we send blood to the lab to confirm!!
*cart before the horse
Who else is here happy that she got 11 years in jail for this?
Watched The Dropout, for some reason I’m obsessed with her and hope she gets behind bars.
you can clearly see panic and fear in her eyes during the CNN interview part.
She was talking to an actual Doctor she had dropped out of college she hadnt a clue
Reading the book and then watching this interview is an amazing experience!
Amanda S nailed this persona!
Her answer to the question of pacient having a heart attack due to her flawed test was the equivalent of: “IDGAF.” That shows she could care less about anything other than money and power.
she will be out in 5 years with good behavior once she even goes in, but right now her lawyers have gotten her a "stay" with her jail time and her rich husband Sunny is also not receiving any jail time and SUnny even got his prison moved to the beaches of California when he was originally scheduled for ATLANTA, a hell-hole
volume is too low
So that you cannot hear the lies...duh!
Agent Smidt volume of blood dumbass
Turn your dial up.
That's cuz her voice is too low
hahahahahha
She's one of the Twilight Zone mannequins that forgot to return to the department store after living among real people.
Lol
Everyone in that building was just organizing shelves and looking into microscopes for fun.😂 They were all winging it.
At least she gives single older Asian men hope
😂😂😂
I'm not a body language expert by any stretch but look how she can't help but smile from this point onwards 5:30 when she answers a question directly. It's like you can't help but show glee that you've managed to 'trick someone.
She had no breath when she said no. And knowing that she must have known shit was hitting the fan and still be smiling like that is so whacko
It's a term called dupers delight. Look it up, there are plenty of interesting examples
But here's what's fascinating about that segment : in the moments before that (starting around 3:06), it was not duper's delight, but rather fraudster's fright (I just made that up) that was written in bold characters on her face. As you say, kind of a sigh of relief begins to appear, around 5:06 when she starts talking about her beloved INVESTORS. And in ennumerating all of the reasons why they chose to place their money & trust in her company, not once does she mention ''high-quality & reliable results''. She just goes on and on about the vision, what they represent, what they were trying to accomplish, etc. Anything measurable & satisfying any medical standard was far too much to ask of her. But hey, medicine was never her field, was it. Out of sheer curiosity, I wonder how long an average man could have pulled this off.
40 tests with 1 drop of blood how did no one catch on to this 🤦♀️
people don't realize that if her scam would have worked she could have killed millions
Gupta shoud have know this type of testing was not possible since he is an MD. Why didn't he say anything?
Heh, your cholesterol was 170 because it was tested on a Siemens Advia. :P
She said she initially didn't have the right people in place to run the labs.... Didn't the first guy, Gibbons run the labs and didn't Gibbons commit suicide? Was Gibbons a highly decorated British research scientist? Gibbons started to challenge Holmes on the the science of Theranos and Holmes was going to fire him.
Yes, the poor man was hounded to his grave and Holmes & Company are responsible. I'd call it manslaughter because the result of their abuse was his death.
People trying to claim this didn't age well and fault CNN for bad reporting but... Did they watch the full video? It absolutely dives into several very significant failures Theranos has had. This is definitely not a fluff piece just talking about how great Theranos is.
Because it’s common sense that what Theranos was claiming had no medical or scientific validity; and that the company’s claims defied the most basic logic, elementary medical knowledge, scientific knowledge, and common sense about how blood tests are run.
@@dreamwithinadreamfilms yeah and the video goes into those details talking about how they dont have accurate results, were banned from being able to do blood tests in certain areas, etc. Even brings up how they're being investigated for fraud too.
the main reason the investors believed her was just she acted so serious while she’s using difficult vocabulary lol