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Hi thank u for review it was well educative. Pls can you advice which budget lens will be gd for movie shooting (Action and closer shot) with the 4k Blmpcc? Thank you
@@KevinBobkay Hello Kevin, thanks for the comment. Honestly I am not sure what to answer, main reason being that I always use the canon high-end lenses. I prefer to invest more money in a good lens that in the camera body. As a lens will last forever. Then, it depends what lens you're after, what focal length? What is a low budget? It is quite relative ;-) Meanwhile, consider to subscribe to my channel for more videos and camera gear reviews
Yes this video helps me make a decision about what yo purchase. I like the 6k because it's newer, but this video really helps by breaking down the differences and help me decide what I need and what I can work around.
Great level of detail and thank you for highlighting the pros and cons so clearly and being genuine about why you consider not to upgrade. 5 star rating from me for your great clips. Well done again!!!
Nice comparison, I may have missed it but not sure if you mentioned what firmware your 4K was on, if the 4K and 6k are both on v7.3 firmware they’ll both be using gen 5 color science which is flatter than gen 4. I have the pocket 4K and briefly considered upgrading to the 6k pro but also decided it wasn’t enough to be worthwhile, I’m holding out for possibly a new body design and one of blackmagic’s own sensor (micro cinema 8k or 12k) I still own and continue to use the original bmpcc because it’s such a special little thing, Beautiful image
Ciao Harris, thanks for the comment. About the software is version 6.9.6., hope this helps. I might need to look for an update then, cheers! Still beautiful image, as you say
Really good vid man! I haven't seen too many real world comparisons like this. I have both cameras, i actually much prefer the 4k with the .64 metabones as it gives me a wider field of view that is very close to ff and way waaaaaay better at low light performance, as well as using waaaaay less storage media, the 6k is also very cool but kinda bulky, it sits on a tripod 90% of the time whereas the 4k is a run n gun beast, if you outfit the 4k with a tilta cage, battery/focus handle w/nano focus wheel and get a great variable nd/ or mini matte box with ND's, you are at about the same cost as the 6k without a cage or matte box (which I think you're nuts if you don't protect your camera with a cage), I would rather have another 4k rigged the same exact way as my first 4k rig as it would make multi camera color matching a non event and keep everything else ultra consistent in production equipment and post production editing, with the 4k/.64 speed booster i can also use the BMRaw gyro stabilization at max effect and only get cropped down to the super 35mm 6k frame size when it's NOT stabilized, stabilizing the 6k crops in on it significantly, it really comes down to not wanting to be hassled with time consuming issues for what is arguably a marginally better image in the 6k, the only really small advantage imo is punching in on 6k footage stays extremely tack sharp, i also really like the dual xlr mini's on the 6k, but the 4k's 3.5mm mic input isn't a deal breaker unless you are in a really emi/rfi polluted environment where you need balanced connections to reject noise
Nice video! I love the field real world test. It’s definitely not about resolution for me. But I have wondered, does the 6K have less noise or smaller noise? If I switched to 6K Pro it would be for the screen you can actually see outdoors, internal ND, and EF native lens support. I’ve often times used the Bluetooth app to set focus points, but I have the viltrox speed booster and it doesn’t work with it. The metabones is close to the same price as me buying a 6K Pro and selling 4K. But in the end, the image looks so close to identical! So for me it’s more of the on the field accessibilities that can speed up processes. IE, Walking outdoors to indoors Do you have any tips for me in this situation?
Hi Jared. Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video. About your question, I have to be honest and did not test the low light and noise of the cameras and haven't noticed anything. The test wasn't actually about resolution for me either 😅. Consider to subscribe for more
Ciao Eddie. The answer would be the same as at the conclusion of this video. 4K is my choice for the many reasons I mentioned ;-) I looooove this camera. The image quality is stunning for what it costs! You can check some of my productions at vimeo.com/mamoair
Honestly, I'd go straight to the 6K pro for several reasons. First, the cost is not really that different. EF lenses are commonplace and easy to find. If you ever intend to move up to larger cinema cameras like the RED, you'll already have your lens options in order. In order to use them on the 4K, you'd need a speed booster. That difference was about a few hundred bucks. Then you factor in the tilting screen. That cuts out the need for a monitor in many cases. That basically closes the cost gap. Not to mention the internal NDs. That's another cost factor against the 4K. The crop of the M43 has been a battle for me personally. I battle getting wide enough. Then there's the future-proofing of getting 6K. You don't have to shoot in 6K. You can shoot in 4K, but if you need or when the standards move up to 6K, you're already set. It seems weird to think of 6K being standard, but there was a time SD was standard. So... yeah. Also, the batteries being such a common battery on set, it'll be even easier to keep the power on. That's my two cents.
@@namonty4 Thanks for sharing your opinion Nicholas, great to hear different voices and feedback, consider to subscribe to my channel for more videos about gear and be part of this community
Great Video. I am considering to go for a BMPCC and this review really helped. One question: since it will be my first ever BMPCC and if the budget is not an issue as far as the price of the camera is concerned,, do you still recommend 4k or 6K pro? Would appreciate your feedback.
Hi Manish. Thanks for watching the video. The answer to your question is right in my video. I'd still go with the 4K for the reasons mentioned. Hit the subscribe button and join my community. Ciao
great video xDDD But I have still some questions as it's pretty hard to choose between the 6k and 6k pro haha. I've never had a video camera, so I'm somehow afraid that it will be too heavy with the Pocket 6k Pro (1.2 kg DJI Rs 2 stabilizer, 800g Sigma 18-35 mm, 1.2 kg Pocket 6k Pro, and another battery or SSD.) Do you think that could be the case? Especially when you e.g. film the whole day or when you travel and still have a drone. I also wonder if the 6k Pro's "tilting screen" is really necessary? (I filmed with the Gopro and the cell phone on a stabilizer and never really had any problems, even when I walked very close to the floor. Maybe it's different with the camera, as many 6k users said it is necessary). Buying one later would make less sense, as it costs more and is perhaps even more uncomfortable if you use the stabilizer and fix a "DJI 3D focus system" / microphone on the "head" of the camera. I've already looked a bit on the internet and apparently the 6k Pro fits on the RS 2, but it's not yet entirely clear to me whether that's really true. I have one last question then I say more than thank you; Do you actually need nd filters a lot in filmmaking? thxx
Hello there. Thanks for watching the video and for the comment. I will try to answer to your questions via a message. About the weight. Amy camera I have ever used, after a whole day of filming, will feel heavy. If you use it on a gimbal, it will girt your lower back. If you use it handheld with an handle for 8 hours, you will not be able to straighten you fingers for an hour after that. It happened to me. Camera gear can be heavy in the long run. I do not think there is much difference between the 6K and 6k pro. In terms of monitor. I do not think it is necessary. But it definitely helps. I used cameras for years withouth an external monitor. I now have a Blackmagic 4k without tilting screen and I can still use it on gimbal without problems. The good thing of external monitors is that they are usually brighter, and can be bigger, than native camera's monitors. They allow you to get lower and higher shots with ease too. Also, once you get an external monitor, you will be able to use it on any camera you will buy in the future. So it is a good investment. About ND filters. Yes, you need them for videography. Everything depends on what level of professionality you are aiming to. ND filters will keep a natural motion blur to your images. Without that, you will have to compromise other settings which will make your clips less natural. Hope this helps
Hi Antonis. Thanks for checking my video. Unfortunately, in my experience, all the filters I have personally used added some tint to the image. I have been using for the past years the variable ND fikter 82mm by Hoya and I am quite happy with it. I shoot all my videos with 1 single filter. Even this video you watched. Consider to subscribe for more, we never know I will get to review some nice filters in the near future 😆
Don't forget to get ND filters that have IR protection as the BM cameras are vulnerable to IR waves when an ND filter is on. IR pollution is tricky, if not impossible, to remove in post without degrading your skin tones.
Hello. Thanks for the comment! Glad the video could help. You can find a link of the 4K in the description of this video, if it helps to purchase it. You will not regreat it, it is an amazing camera and you can see a lot of videos on my channel filmed with that camera. Consider to subscribe too for more videos
@@MamoAir I just subscribed then ;) I won’t buy it now haha, but I’ll buy it as soon as I get the money. I’ll try to remember to pass via your link ! I understand that it helps. :) (As I’m French I don’t know if I’ll be able to purchase it with your link but I’ll try).
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Gréât vidéo thanks. For me what’s kill it is file size, I’ll stick to 4K. I wished we could have had more info on the different file size between the 2. Maybe for another video ;)
Hi. Thanks a lot for the feedback. Ues, I didn't actually mentioned anything about the file size, I guess it wasn't one of my priorities, but good to know! Hope you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for more
@@MamoAir I did enjoy it, I just finished watching it. I just saw the end of the video where you came to the same conclusion. The Pocket 4k is a good choice for a camera. I prefer the 6k Pro simply because it has a lot of dynamic range, ND filters, and the screen is brighter so I don't have to buy a field monitor. Cheers
@@leebrandt8597 So good to know other filmmakers opinion, that is why I made this video. All great resons why you prefer the 6K ;-) Keep up the productions then! Stay tuned for more Black-Magic eheh
@@matthewphillips5483 Having tested my camera dozens of times with a spot meter. This gave me 9.1 stops above middle gray with the Pocket 6k Pro. Two, when grading with HDR in wide gamut, the zones graph tells you how many stops you have to play with, 15.5 stops. Bottom line, almost every manufacturer exaggerates their camera's dynamic range. The only one that is accurate is Alexa. When they say 14 1/2 stops, that is correct. Even Blackmagic exaggerates the Ursa G2's DR. But for some strange reason, they underestimate their Pocket camera's DR.
Just something to consider, 1080p definitely can hold up, but uploading in 4K would allow a better bitrate. While the resolution may not be as big a deal as people think when doing final, but TH-cam 4K is really an excuse for TH-cam to give us better bitrate quality. I would be willing to bet that 1080p footage upscaled to 4K would look better on TH-cam (when played back in 4K) than the same video being uploaded in 1080p.
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Hi thank u for review it was well educative. Pls can you advice which budget lens will be gd for movie shooting (Action and closer shot) with the 4k Blmpcc? Thank you
@@KevinBobkay Hello Kevin, thanks for the comment. Honestly I am not sure what to answer, main reason being that I always use the canon high-end lenses. I prefer to invest more money in a good lens that in the camera body. As a lens will last forever. Then, it depends what lens you're after, what focal length? What is a low budget? It is quite relative ;-)
Meanwhile, consider to subscribe to my channel for more videos and camera gear reviews
Yes this video helps me make a decision about what yo purchase. I like the 6k because it's newer, but this video really helps by breaking down the differences and help me decide what I need and what I can work around.
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Brother thank you for this video from the Dominican Republic
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Great level of detail and thank you for highlighting the pros and cons so clearly and being genuine about why you consider not to upgrade. 5 star rating from me for your great clips. Well done again!!!
Thanks for watching! 😃
@@MamoAir how can one not to!!! I got hooked on your channel. Great level of detail and your tips and tricks are awesome!
Nice comparison, I may have missed it but not sure if you mentioned what firmware your 4K was on, if the 4K and 6k are both on v7.3 firmware they’ll both be using gen 5 color science which is flatter than gen 4. I have the pocket 4K and briefly considered upgrading to the 6k pro but also decided it wasn’t enough to be worthwhile, I’m holding out for possibly a new body design and one of blackmagic’s own sensor (micro cinema 8k or 12k) I still own and continue to use the original bmpcc because it’s such a special little thing, Beautiful image
Ciao Harris, thanks for the comment. About the software is version 6.9.6., hope this helps. I might need to look for an update then, cheers! Still beautiful image, as you say
Really good vid man! I haven't seen too many real world comparisons like this. I have both cameras, i actually much prefer the 4k with the .64 metabones as it gives me a wider field of view that is very close to ff and way waaaaaay better at low light performance, as well as using waaaaay less storage media, the 6k is also very cool but kinda bulky, it sits on a tripod 90% of the time whereas the 4k is a run n gun beast, if you outfit the 4k with a tilta cage, battery/focus handle w/nano focus wheel and get a great variable nd/ or mini matte box with ND's, you are at about the same cost as the 6k without a cage or matte box (which I think you're nuts if you don't protect your camera with a cage), I would rather have another 4k rigged the same exact way as my first 4k rig as it would make multi camera color matching a non event and keep everything else ultra consistent in production equipment and post production editing, with the 4k/.64 speed booster i can also use the BMRaw gyro stabilization at max effect and only get cropped down to the super 35mm 6k frame size when it's NOT stabilized, stabilizing the 6k crops in on it significantly, it really comes down to not wanting to be hassled with time consuming issues for what is arguably a marginally better image in the 6k, the only really small advantage imo is punching in on 6k footage stays extremely tack sharp, i also really like the dual xlr mini's on the 6k, but the 4k's 3.5mm mic input isn't a deal breaker unless you are in a really emi/rfi polluted environment where you need balanced connections to reject noise
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Nice video! I love the field real world test. It’s definitely not about resolution for me. But I have wondered, does the 6K have less noise or smaller noise?
If I switched to 6K Pro it would be for the screen you can actually see outdoors, internal ND, and EF native lens support.
I’ve often times used the Bluetooth app to set focus points, but I have the viltrox speed booster and it doesn’t work with it. The metabones is close to the same price as me buying a 6K Pro and selling 4K.
But in the end, the image looks so close to identical! So for me it’s more of the on the field accessibilities that can speed up processes. IE, Walking outdoors to indoors
Do you have any tips for me in this situation?
Hi Jared. Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed the video. About your question, I have to be honest and did not test the low light and noise of the cameras and haven't noticed anything. The test wasn't actually about resolution for me either 😅. Consider to subscribe for more
Wow this is amazing vlog guys and of course the comparisons is just incredible and am glad I could see its differences.. 6k looks awesome
Thanks Benshan. Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, 6K is great and 4K too 😃.
Hey mate, what Speedbooster are you using? :) thanks for the answer.
Hi Nikolai. Here it is: Metabones Canon EF Lens to BMPCC Speed Booster: amzn.to/2C7cu5O
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In our case, we have no camera to upgrade; we will make a new equipment purchase. Do you recommend to go to the 4K or going directly to the 6k?
Ciao Eddie. The answer would be the same as at the conclusion of this video. 4K is my choice for the many reasons I mentioned ;-)
I looooove this camera. The image quality is stunning for what it costs! You can check some of my productions at vimeo.com/mamoair
Honestly, I'd go straight to the 6K pro for several reasons. First, the cost is not really that different. EF lenses are commonplace and easy to find. If you ever intend to move up to larger cinema cameras like the RED, you'll already have your lens options in order. In order to use them on the 4K, you'd need a speed booster. That difference was about a few hundred bucks. Then you factor in the tilting screen. That cuts out the need for a monitor in many cases. That basically closes the cost gap. Not to mention the internal NDs. That's another cost factor against the 4K. The crop of the M43 has been a battle for me personally. I battle getting wide enough. Then there's the future-proofing of getting 6K. You don't have to shoot in 6K. You can shoot in 4K, but if you need or when the standards move up to 6K, you're already set. It seems weird to think of 6K being standard, but there was a time SD was standard. So... yeah. Also, the batteries being such a common battery on set, it'll be even easier to keep the power on. That's my two cents.
@@namonty4 Thanks for sharing your opinion Nicholas, great to hear different voices and feedback, consider to subscribe to my channel for more videos about gear and be part of this community
Great Video. I am considering to go for a BMPCC and this review really helped. One question: since it will be my first ever BMPCC and if the budget is not an issue as far as the price of the camera is concerned,, do you still recommend 4k or 6K pro? Would appreciate your feedback.
Hi Manish. Thanks for watching the video. The answer to your question is right in my video. I'd still go with the 4K for the reasons mentioned.
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great video xDDD
But I have still some questions as it's pretty hard to choose between the 6k and 6k pro haha. I've never had a video camera, so I'm somehow afraid that it will be too heavy with the Pocket 6k Pro (1.2 kg DJI Rs 2 stabilizer, 800g Sigma 18-35 mm, 1.2 kg Pocket 6k Pro, and another battery or SSD.) Do you think that could be the case? Especially when you e.g. film the whole day or when you travel and still have a drone. I also wonder if the 6k Pro's "tilting screen" is really necessary? (I filmed with the Gopro and the cell phone on a stabilizer and never really had any problems, even when I walked very close to the floor. Maybe it's different with the camera, as many 6k users said it is necessary). Buying one later would make less sense, as it costs more and is perhaps even more uncomfortable if you use the stabilizer and fix a "DJI 3D focus system" / microphone on the "head" of the camera. I've already looked a bit on the internet and apparently the 6k Pro fits on the RS 2, but it's not yet entirely clear to me whether that's really true. I have one last question then I say more than thank you; Do you actually need nd filters a lot in filmmaking?
thxx
Hello there. Thanks for watching the video and for the comment. I will try to answer to your questions via a message.
About the weight. Amy camera I have ever used, after a whole day of filming, will feel heavy. If you use it on a gimbal, it will girt your lower back. If you use it handheld with an handle for 8 hours, you will not be able to straighten you fingers for an hour after that. It happened to me. Camera gear can be heavy in the long run. I do not think there is much difference between the 6K and 6k pro.
In terms of monitor. I do not think it is necessary. But it definitely helps. I used cameras for years withouth an external monitor. I now have a Blackmagic 4k without tilting screen and I can still use it on gimbal without problems. The good thing of external monitors is that they are usually brighter, and can be bigger, than native camera's monitors. They allow you to get lower and higher shots with ease too. Also, once you get an external monitor, you will be able to use it on any camera you will buy in the future. So it is a good investment.
About ND filters. Yes, you need them for videography. Everything depends on what level of professionality you are aiming to. ND filters will keep a natural motion blur to your images. Without that, you will have to compromise other settings which will make your clips less natural. Hope this helps
Could you please suggest prime nd filters or a variable without swifting colours?thanx
Hi Antonis. Thanks for checking my video. Unfortunately, in my experience, all the filters I have personally used added some tint to the image. I have been using for the past years the variable ND fikter 82mm by Hoya and I am quite happy with it. I shoot all my videos with 1 single filter. Even this video you watched. Consider to subscribe for more, we never know I will get to review some nice filters in the near future 😆
Don't forget to get ND filters that have IR protection as the BM cameras are vulnerable to IR waves when an ND filter is on. IR pollution is tricky, if not impossible, to remove in post without degrading your skin tones.
Love the review. Good to see the 4k and 6k pro compared
Glad to hear it
Thanks for the video, I was hesitating but I’ll buy the 4k.
Hello. Thanks for the comment! Glad the video could help. You can find a link of the 4K in the description of this video, if it helps to purchase it. You will not regreat it, it is an amazing camera and you can see a lot of videos on my channel filmed with that camera.
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@@MamoAir I just subscribed then ;)
I won’t buy it now haha, but I’ll buy it as soon as I get the money. I’ll try to remember to pass via your link ! I understand that it helps. :)
(As I’m French I don’t know if I’ll be able to purchase it with your link but I’ll try).
@@ConcreteAdvisory thanks anyway 🙃
Ciao! Gratzie per tutti! 4k me piacere !
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Two real beasts and a dangerous weapon in your hands. This was precise and educational also. Thanks.
They are 2 beasts. Love them both. But still a looong way to go for me 😉
Great comparison and really interesting stuff. I found myself enjoying the 4k footage more... however, I am watching off of my phone.
Hi Jason, thanks for stopping by and for your comment. Glad you enjoyed the content. I love my 4k too ahah.
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@@jasonlight8813 thanks Jason!
Gréât vidéo thanks. For me what’s kill it is file size, I’ll stick to 4K. I wished we could have had more info on the different file size between the 2. Maybe for another video ;)
Hi. Thanks a lot for the feedback. Ues, I didn't actually mentioned anything about the file size, I guess it wasn't one of my priorities, but good to know!
Hope you enjoyed the video. Stay tuned for more
The Pocket 6k has more dynamic range than the 4k, regardless of what the manufacturer says. And both cameras have more than 13 stops
Hi Lee. Thanks for confirming. Hope you enjoyed the review
@@MamoAir I did enjoy it, I just finished watching it. I just saw the end of the video where you came to the same conclusion. The Pocket 4k is a good choice for a camera. I prefer the 6k Pro simply because it has a lot of dynamic range, ND filters, and the screen is brighter so I don't have to buy a field monitor. Cheers
@@leebrandt8597 So good to know other filmmakers opinion, that is why I made this video. All great resons why you prefer the 6K ;-)
Keep up the productions then! Stay tuned for more Black-Magic eheh
What evidence do you have that the p6k is > 13 stops?
@@matthewphillips5483 Having tested my camera dozens of times with a spot meter. This gave me 9.1 stops above middle gray with the Pocket 6k Pro. Two, when grading with HDR in wide gamut, the zones graph tells you how many stops you have to play with, 15.5 stops. Bottom line, almost every manufacturer exaggerates their camera's dynamic range. The only one that is accurate is Alexa. When they say 14 1/2 stops, that is correct. Even Blackmagic exaggerates the Ursa G2's DR. But for some strange reason, they underestimate their Pocket camera's DR.
I'm adding the 6K, not the Pro version, and using my 4K as my B camera.
Hi Mick. Thanks for the feedback. Stay tuned for more reviews
Imagine if blackmagic create a medium format pocket 8k camera With 90 megapixel sensor.
Which lut ur used ???
Hello. I haven't used any LUT. Just graded from scratch. Consider to sub if you enjoyed it. More is coming 😉
I would like a 4k pro 😊
Ha. That would be the best camera! Consider to subscribe for more reviews. May be one day I will review thev4k pro 😁👍
@@MamoAir done. 💪👍
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I dunno the full frame does looks a bit more cinematic
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yoyoyo. Big thanks man! Let's roll another one soon.
The 4K can do 120fps at 2K
Thanks for the note 👍
Actually at 2.6K
Why is this in 1080p
Why not? 😉
Just something to consider, 1080p definitely can hold up, but uploading in 4K would allow a better bitrate. While the resolution may not be as big a deal as people think when doing final, but TH-cam 4K is really an excuse for TH-cam to give us better bitrate quality.
I would be willing to bet that 1080p footage upscaled to 4K would look better on TH-cam (when played back in 4K) than the same video being uploaded in 1080p.
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