Improving Router Dust Collection with 3D Printing - Airflow Redesign Explained on Makita RT0701CX7
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I really like my little Makita RT0701CX7 router but the dust shroud that Makita offers for their routers simply does not show any sign of function. As is the case with basically all other manufacturers router dust collection. I changed this by adding some simple 3D-Printed parts to completely redesign the airflow and was able to make it catch at least 99% of the dust.
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Very smartly done, Cosmas :)
What an amazing difference! I used the same routers for a little while on my CNC and had the same problem. Dust forced everywhere despite extraction. Ultimately the design of routers needs to also be heavily improved too.
Love your videos bro. Still remember when you turned an old dc motor into a disc sander. Years keep going by.
That is really awesome how much it improved that. I don’t even have dust collection and I hate using a router because of it, this is a game changer. Thank you for sharing this with us maybe sharing it with rockler tools and make a few coins
Love the clock in the back when printing.
You have rocket-scientist level engineering. Makita should pay you for that design.
I used a festool router at a trade school that was well stocked with fancy tools and the instructor pointed out that festool had solved this problem by having the motor fan exhaust out the side rather than the bottom. I was shocked when routing a blind hole that almost all the dust stayed in place, making it difficult to see what I was doing. It's always interesting to see people come up with different solutions to a problem.
Fantastic difference! Your ability to analyze and solve problems is amazing. Makita might like to hear from you.
Excellent job, Cosmas! I have the same router and the same problem. I was wondering how to make it better, and you just make it! Thanks a lot for sharing this knowledge. 👏🏻
That is great work Cosmas! Thank you for sharing as I have the same Router and look forward to upgrading it.
A dude in his garage with a cheap hobby printer can outsmart and out-design a multi million dollar organisation with almost limitless resources and a dedicated design team. That’s the power of actually caring.
Nice job, Cosmas. Thanks for sharing!
That is brilliant! I’m printing this for sure! Thanks!
This works like a charm! Thanks so much for sharing!
Ohhh! Super nice! I'm setting up my 3D printer right now, and I have a Bosch router that ... well, you know. Routers!
Another project to my growing list for the 3D printer.
Great thinking there. Thanks for the video!
Well done, incredible result 👍
Love your approach. Great job!
Amazing engineering -great job!
Genial wie immer!
Genius as always!
you are rly creative inventor, keep up the good work, love your vids man
FANTASTIC!!!! KEEP THEM COMING.
Robbie from Huyton Liverpool UK
Very good solution. Congrats!
Reminds me of the air splitters in the dust shrouds of some homebrew CNC machines - the MPCNC and the Lowrider for example.
Hey Cosmas, as always a well presented video. Nice to see the difference for the Makita router dust collecting. When you look up Festool, and check the standard adapters that come with the router. You can see that the router bit is fully closed from the machine. Maybe if you are looking for improvement you can look it up. When i use the Festool 99% of the sawdust gets collected in my vacuum. I have a big Starmix, might be a bar comperessment because it is a heavy duty one.
Very nice design and effective! Wish they were mass produced for this and other models! Thanks.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if now that this concept is in the wild, some very similar designs will be showing up in the market place from the usual manufacturers.
Makita should hire you on their design team
Impressive. nice work.
I have this same router and am ready to buy your 3d printed parts any time!
Outstanding
Nice work! A big improvement over the original design. 🤔 Makita might want to talk with you about this. As always, I enjoyed your video. 👍
Heeey!!! That ... works! My favorite video today! Time to fire up the old printer. I have the wrong router but also Fusion 360. :D
Brilliant
Cosmas Bauer - R & D , now open.
Brilliantly solved! I have the exact router. Will your 3d print plans be available for purchase?
This is excellent.
Do you think the same can be done with a Hikoki?
There is no need to use a press down type base for milling the transfixion slot, so the dust collection effect of the original base will be much better.
Brilliant.. I can see Makita visiting your thingiverse page. Now all I need to do is put my self build 3D printer together... it's been in a box for a while.. Doh.
Super great idea. I wonder how long until someone patents it, and then sues you back. Will this video works are previous art?
You should have a look at the Festool shroud, instead of having a kind of funnel as you made it is more like a dome with a hole large enough on the upper part so the router bit move freely, that will let more space to inhale the dust inside the dome shape .
The Makita dust shroud is 2 parts. One is the piece you have and the other is a baffle that clicks onto the other side. It’s included in the full router kit. Great design though!
Hi Cosmas, I went on your Thingiverse page to look at the 3D files. Good job ! No problem with the 36mm adaptor for Festool hose, works perfect. As for dust collection lid to be but in the plunge base, which file would you suggest. On is dated of October 17th and the other, a week later, October 24th. Is the second one an improvement of the first version? Which would you suggest? Thanks for your input !
Hello, do you sell the dust collector mod you created? I have the same issue and it slows down my production ´cause of the tons of dust
I'm curious how a down-spiral bit would fare compared to an up-spiral
OEM should buy the design from you. Nice job.
I think they will just take it for free :D
@@CosmasBauer NG. With this video time stamping maybe not.
I hope you think about consulting for the manufacturers
German engineering! Wunderbar
Can you recommend your 3d printer?
good job, but why didn't you 3d print the whole dust collector adapter thing?
Cool one :) *Makita, are you watching?* - BTW - the video says "advertisement" in an overlay - but _what_ are you advertising?
claimed by german law
Great work and as always perfectly executed!
You ARE a sick perfectionist, no? Haha! The truth is, everything you do is perfectly made!!
Love to see your vids, always learnin somethin.
Of Mrs Makita now:
Can't forget the worst impession bloody Makita (Maktec) made me when they obliged me to buy as an extra the inside of the collet 8mm adaptor. It's ridiculous for such a great company.
Anyway, somehow we westerners have to payback Hiroshima & Naga (...)
Have a great day and thank Ufor your vids!
Brilliant, reach out to Makita and get some licencing money for this modification.
Great ... and now for the Bosch pov ;-))
How much i have to pay?
SOS un genio
good stuff , i really dont know why tool makers dont prioritize dust collection . i could do the stuff you do to better your tools, one day :(
this has to be fake 😂🤣😉 excellent design comas!!! love it. I think you should patent it.. yet another good reason to finally buy a 3d printer.. keep it up and stay safe!!!
You are a genius! Apply for a patent and make a million dollars!
Game Changer..Dust remover times 10...Great job man...."Advertisement" why ?
are you selling them ?
You should work at Makita!
Shame on makita Y oh y didnt they make it the right size ? Is there a ready made adapter as not all of us have a printer ?. BTW that adapter fits the trimer base and is very good at catching the dust, I haven't used the plungebase yet
Makita, agradecida 😂
Can somebody give the link to download the files that Cosmas has developed. I can't catch what he is saying. Thanks in advance.
Excellent analysis and solution, but what's with the "Advertisement" in the upper right corner?
Because he is sending from Germany he has to state this for legal reasons (please don‘t ask why...)
@@gandhizehner I watch plenty of other German TH-camrs and haven't noticed any similar statements. Apparently the why is either overly convoluted, or extremely embarrassing, or both.
@@klschofield71 if you are popular enough to ger recognized by Grrman public television they will sue you for laws on competition. They will argue that the secon you show a brand name (product placement - in this case Makita, the 3D printer) this is becoming something like an infomercial - that then needs to be market significantly. The fees for that are substancial - so Cosmas (and other German TH-camrs) will show something like „advert“ or „Dauerwerbesendung“ to not become suable....
@@gandhizehner I guess its both.
@@gandhizehner but youtube have an special option for it - "video contains advertisement or product placement" (if i correctly remember).
But this video not contain advert why need stupid sign?! Is just talk about even not about product only "addon" and not selling. :(
You should sell them, I would buy both at a reasonable price, I have the same router. You could sell them on eBay.
do you see any loss of visibility?
can you dell one of these for the routerRT0701C? corded makita router
sell
can we buy this from you? , the makita dust collection is horrendous
Hi!
I tried to download the 3d zip file from thingiverse, however the file is corrupted.
Can you do something?
Thank you!
I don't have a 3D printer. Will you make both pieces and let me purchase them from you?
You should probably send Makita your video and see if they will adapt your idea.
They will certainly find it themselves :D
I hope Makita contacts you
👍👍👍.
Would you make and sell them?
what 's the point if I can't buy one?
The point is that I improved my dust collection :)
Would you consider selling these? I’m sure there are heaps of us who would line up to buy a set!
I think people are already selling my deign. At least I have seen it a couple of times on amazon and ebay.
It shows you that these tool makers don't test, or care about the products they sell.
Not really, more like things slip through... Tool makers aren't run by just engineers, etc. but marketing, sales people, designers, etc. that all have to work together and somehow not get in each others way. But they are people and people make mistakes, they make assumptions, etc. While not all issues will be problems they can just test for in the lab as there isn't always a replacement for real world use to work out the bugs and companies don't have limitless resources to just spend time testing and testing without sending something to market so they can earn enough to keep the company lights on...
Companies also don't do everything in-house, many outsource for different things and especially accessories can be made by 3rd parties that may have nothing more than specs to go off of... Some of these brands can be a result of multiple companies working together but more moving parts means greater chance things can go wrong but they often cater to international markets and the logistics can be complex, with also worry about timing as taking too long can cede the market to competition or miss the window of opportunity for when the product will be in high demand...
So it's not that they don't care, they're just not perfect and some will be less perfect than others... It's more telling if they refuse to fix a problem once it becomes a known issue, then you know they don't care but otherwise there's usually room for a benefit of a doubt...
Shouldn't the dust port be at the back of the router when your pushing it?
All the chips should then go straight into the direction of the hose amd get sucked in.
Either that or your using the router the wrong way around.
For example rout a piece of timber again like you were in your vid but instead of starting at the front of the piece of wood pushing it put the router at the back of the timber and pull the router towards you and you will see all the chips get sucked up.
That's what I was thinking...
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Watch out, your vacuum hose seems to have a static charge at 7:25. Static charge and fine particles (like sawdust) could result in a fire (or explosion).
Don't know if this is a big problem... Great video btw!
Static charge won't ignite anything. What you would want to worry about is static discharge - more specifically a sparking discharge. In this instance, what I see is a static build up on the hose attracting those dust particles. Those dust particles obviously have the opposite charge. Together the left over charge is quite negligible. Meaning I seriously doubt any sparking discharge would issue from this system.
It's a shame that you seemed to figure out such an effective solution when the engineers at Makita couldn't be bothered. They still only do what they have to to sell and don't care about the end user. This would not work in a commercial environment where dust collection regulations are taken seriously.
Can I just buy it from you
And now the question. Why can't Makita herself build it and sell it?
Corporate incompetence.
They probably will.
Amazing how a multimillion euro company cant figure that out by them self.
Ok
Has it occurred to you that the dust collection wasnt working because you were running the router backwards? You need to position the machine so that the dust port is sucking in the direction that the cutter is blowing out the chips. Simply rotate the router 180 degrees. You've over-engineered a solution to an apprentice mistake. You are now qualified for a job at Festool LOL
Good Point! But it does not make a difference. Watch my explanation at 3:21. You're welcome :)