Where are the links to the products you used in the video? I am interested in that silicon lube. I have some tire lube in a spray can. But I thought if I can get it in a spray squirt bottle it would be cheaper. And more product.
onzalimey Phillips I ran tubliss amd they are rubbish for hard enduro races, for anything else they are fine. Also tubliss are better because you can adjust the pressure, whereas on mouses you cant.
I found with tubliss they weren't anything special for racing beause I had to run them at least 13psi to keep from bottoming out the rims against logs and rocks all the time. Same pressure I run in tubes.
I run 8.5 front and 4.5 rear currently with thick sidewall tires and I love them. The traction is ridiculous it’s like cheating. Only reason I would run mousse is the no flat thing
Is there a dot on the tire that you line up with the rim lock so the tire can be balanced easier ? I know on street tires the manufacturers add a dot where the lightest part of the tire is so you can line it up with the valve stem .
During the video you said that you would show at the end of the video you would show how to add lube to the mousse without taking off the tire (at 2:08 in the video). You didn't cover it at the end of the video. Could you show or explain how you do this? Thank you!
Just did my first Mousse w/ a Rabaconda... something that nobody mentions on install videos... when mounting a stiff tire like a Kenda Parker DT, the bead absolutely will not seat with Mousse, not with air, not with spinning on your bike in 6th gear on a stand, nada. The last resort and what the Neutech people will tell you is just mount the wheel and go ride it and the bead "should" seat itself after several minutes of riding. Mousse and stiff tires are not a great combination, IMHO.
Jeff, would you rather have the soft mousse up front or the standard? I’m thinking of going to mousses from tubliss, but I’m unsure on the front. Of course I want the soft out back, but the front I’m unsure of. I’m running the m5b front and with it being a softer tire I’m thinking the standard but am not totally sure. Any input would be appreciated. I ride a lot of single track. Fast, slow, really ride it all.
I have a friend who never seems to get beyond 2nd gear so we call him "2 speed". For him a plushie front works well but most guys prefer the standard up front and plushie in the rear.
@@slaverace1 well that made my decision. I’ll definitely have a standard up front. I love tubliss but I need a spare set of wheels with bibs in them for certain places/rides.
@@slaverace1 I got my nitros installed yesterday. In the end I went with the standard front and the soft rear. Man….I tried them briefly a while back and these new ones have a whole lot better feel than the other set I tried. Those seemed to be hard as a brick. These have more of a “broken in” feel right out of the box. Super impressed.
I thought I put that in the video but I must have forgotten. Install a valve stem and when you want to add lube, remove the core and squirt in the lube.
Alec: Good question. On my dirt bike, I don't re-lube between tire changes because I change tires at 300-400 miles. On my dual sport bike I use higher mileage tires and re-lube around 800 miles.
You don´t wanna use silicon grease to lube tire bead, because it wont get dry. Tire can pop up from the wheel. Installing new mousse and tight tire with that stand will be very hard, Rabaconda-style stands are better.
The method in the video works very well and is time tested or I would not have shown it. The tire does NOT pop and the rim lock keeps it from rotating. Rabaconda tire machine slavensracing.com/shop/3-minute-tiremousse-changer-rabaconda is superior to the Mikes machine.
All the mousse lube I've seen looked like wheel bearing grease, only seen in videos. The stuff he was using looked more like oil, how long does it last before needing regrease/relube?
Hello: Black rims are easily scratched when installing tires or when riding. We have tools to protect the rim but if your that worried about scratches, leave your bike parked in the garage and chrome everything.
Shame, slaves videos are normally good.. Theres easier ways to fit mouses...this stand is not great...get one with a bead breaker...it aids the final few pull s on the tyre lever
The Mikes stand used in the video has a bead breaker. We chose not to use it as it is NOT needed and I always try to show methods that don't require a bunch of special tools/equipment. If you want the best mousse installation tool, get the Rabaconda slavensracing.com/shop/3-minute-tiremousse-changer-rabaconda/
I use a big C clamp to push in and hold the rim lock while I pop on the last bit.
Your'e the best Jeff.
I liked the air nozzle trick for seating the bead.
Great video!
I use a bead buddy and soap to lube bead. Vaseline for the mousse.
Funny how that mousse ring jiggles like jello I like it
This is what i need
Is that Mike's Stand bolted to the floor? Excellent video -- very useful. Thanks.
It is not because my floors are heated with water pipes, thermal heating, but it would work better if it was.
Where are the links to the products you used in the video? I am interested in that silicon lube. I have some tire lube in a spray can. But I thought if I can get it in a spray squirt bottle it would be cheaper. And more product.
Motionpro Bead Buddy may come in handy??
So Jeff, do you like it? Going to switch to mousses?
Please do a video on what you think of the mousse vs tubliss. I currently run tubliss but have been curious about a soft mousse like this. Thanks.
onzalimey Phillips I ran tubliss amd they are rubbish for hard enduro races, for anything else they are fine. Also tubliss are better because you can adjust the pressure, whereas on mouses you cant.
I found with tubliss they weren't anything special for racing beause I had to run them at least 13psi to keep from bottoming out the rims against logs and rocks all the time. Same pressure I run in tubes.
I run 8.5 front and 4.5 rear currently with thick sidewall tires and I love them. The traction is ridiculous it’s like cheating. Only reason I would run mousse is the no flat thing
Stay tuned.
@@EddiNice Rubbish, really? TUbliss work exceptionally well and do not fail BUT your tire of choice may fail. Has nothing to do with TUbliss.
Is there a dot on the tire that you line up with the rim lock so the tire can be balanced easier ? I know on street tires the manufacturers add a dot where the lightest part of the tire is so you can line it up with the valve stem .
Not dots on dirt tires.
During the video you said that you would show at the end of the video you would show how to add lube to the mousse without taking off the tire (at 2:08 in the video). You didn't cover it at the end of the video. Could you show or explain how you do this? Thank you!
Just did my first Mousse w/ a Rabaconda... something that nobody mentions on install videos... when mounting a stiff tire like a Kenda Parker DT, the bead absolutely will not seat with Mousse, not with air, not with spinning on your bike in 6th gear on a stand, nada. The last resort and what the Neutech people will tell you is just mount the wheel and go ride it and the bead "should" seat itself after several minutes of riding. Mousse and stiff tires are not a great combination, IMHO.
Jeff, would you rather have the soft mousse up front or the standard? I’m thinking of going to mousses from tubliss, but I’m unsure on the front. Of course I want the soft out back, but the front I’m unsure of. I’m running the m5b front and with it being a softer tire I’m thinking the standard but am not totally sure. Any input would be appreciated. I ride a lot of single track. Fast, slow, really ride it all.
I have a friend who never seems to get beyond 2nd gear so we call him "2 speed". For him a plushie front works well but most guys prefer the standard up front and plushie in the rear.
@@slaverace1 well that made my decision. I’ll definitely have a standard up front. I love tubliss but I need a spare set of wheels with bibs in them for certain places/rides.
@@slaverace1 I got my nitros installed yesterday. In the end I went with the standard front and the soft rear. Man….I tried them briefly a while back and these new ones have a whole lot better feel than the other set I tried. Those seemed to be hard as a brick. These have more of a “broken in” feel right out of the box. Super impressed.
What happened to the part at the end of video that you were going show how to lube the mousse without taking it off?
I must have forgotten. Install a street bike valve stem slavensracing.com/shop/chrome-tubeless-valve-stem/. Remove the core and squirt in the lube.
What is the purpose of a rim lock with a mousse? There is no air plug to rip... Thanks for the answer
The tire will slip on the rim because mousses don't provide enough bead pressure.
How can we add more lube without tearing apart the tire from the rim,
got any tricks for doing this?
Install a street bike valve stem slavensracing.com/shop/chrome-tubeless-valve-stem/. Remove the core and squirt in the lube.
Install a street bike valve stem slavensracing.com/shop/chrome-tubeless-valve-stem/. Remove the core and squirt in the lube.
Jeff did you find a alternative lube as that one you used is no longer made.
Zachary Briggs
No. Just went back to the Nitro lube.
Is that tire stand available from the store?
No, he said it was a Mike's, and you had to buy it from him.
That mousse is really soft. What about 2 rim locks, much more difficult?
It has about a 10 psi feel in the front.
What was the secret to installing lube without removing the tire?
I thought I put that in the video but I must have forgotten. Install a valve stem and when you want to add lube, remove the core and squirt in the lube.
how often should you re-lubricate the mousse?
Alec: Good question. On my dirt bike, I don't re-lube between tire changes because I change tires at 300-400 miles. On my dual sport bike I use higher mileage tires and re-lube around 800 miles.
One rim lock is enough with a mousse?
Yes.
You don´t wanna use silicon grease to lube tire bead, because it wont get dry. Tire can pop up from the wheel. Installing new mousse and tight tire with that stand will be very hard, Rabaconda-style stands are better.
The method in the video works very well and is time tested or I would not have shown it. The tire does NOT pop and the rim lock keeps it from rotating. Rabaconda tire machine slavensracing.com/shop/3-minute-tiremousse-changer-rabaconda is superior to the Mikes machine.
All the mousse lube I've seen looked like wheel bearing grease, only seen in videos. The stuff he was using looked more like oil, how long does it last before needing regrease/relube?
I just use ultra heavy tubes an they seem fine 🤷🏻♂️
To each their own but UHD tubes are very heavy and downgrade the suspension performance and overall handling.
Time to mousse..
Looks like a lot of scratches on the rim after that
Hello:
Black rims are easily scratched when installing tires or when riding. We have tools to protect the rim but if your that worried about scratches, leave your bike parked in the garage and chrome everything.
That’s a great idea never thought of that
First
Shame, slaves videos are normally good..
Theres easier ways to fit mouses...this stand is not great...get one with a bead breaker...it aids the final few pull s on the tyre lever
The Mikes stand used in the video has a bead breaker. We chose not to use it as it is NOT needed and I always try to show methods that don't require a bunch of special tools/equipment. If you want the best mousse installation tool, get the Rabaconda slavensracing.com/shop/3-minute-tiremousse-changer-rabaconda/