How To Install A Michelin Bib Mousse Foam Tube
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The Michelin Bib Mousse is a foam insert that replaces and eliminates the need for a conventional tube inside of your tire. With the Bib Mousse’s solid construction taking the place of your tube, you’ll no longer have to deal with pulled stems, lost pressure, punctures, pinched tubes, or flats of any kind related to traditional pneumatic tubes. The Bib Mousse is ideal for off-road use where it can be taken up to 80 mph and has the pressure equivalent of 13 psi, making it great for all sorts of terrain. And with its long 6 month lifespan, you won’t have to worry about flats for a while.
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best rabaconda/mousse tutorial yet. One thing worth mentioning is a reminder to avoid getting any mousse gel on the brake disk
Always clean the disc with brake clean, because you will always get gel on it!!!!!
I always throw a clean microfiber over the disc...never had an issue
Great video thank you so much for showing this to us. Gives me the courage to try to install these myself.
Using your foot introduces all sorts of debris, and even laying the insert on the tire and cardboard does the same. To decrease any chance of picking of grains of sand (greater friction), I treat mousse installation like surgery. Also, Ill smooth any rough areas inside of the tire with a rasp and then with damp rag wipe and allow to dry out.
Sean awesome thanks for the prompt response.
Awesome vid. Love the foot trick
My £10/wheel fitting now seems good value. Thank-you for a great video!
Very interesting and informative
I do the exact same thing with my RMATV Tusk bench-mounted stand as a legit compromise that works well, not the floor stand, I use the one without legs, the one that can be mounted or affixed to a workbench. My workbench is fastened to the wall studs so nothing is moving when I apply leverage. Good luck 👍
If Santa is reading, I do want a Rabaconda for Christmas 2022 🙏.
You are a good wrench man. Hope RM atv is paying you what your worth. Makin that look easy.
Just done it. Mate, you make it look a lot easier than it is for a mousse virgin. But it is doable even though I genuinely thought I'd snap the bead wire. I seemed to use a lot more brute force than you did. Maybe next time I'll be a bit less of an oaf. Still took me an hour. Even with a Rabaconda. And loads of lube.
Great video. Need all the tools.
Parts of this reminds me of the requiem for a dream ending
I got 3 flat tires with non-repairable holes with tubliss within 6 hours of riding, and start considering mousse.
But gosh this is looking so freaking hard
Diese video war gut
when I put mine on I used 2-3 tubes of lube ----- to me the more the better!!!!
yes my wife say that too...:)
Legend
I think you need a dozen more tire irons 😆
Never need more than three
Where is the info on mousse size to tyre size for the recommended fit
This video saved me from losing my mind lol
Do you need to worry if the beed is not even all the way around will it set itself?
you scratched my black rims. I need to speak with your manager 😂😂 I got tired just watching you hahaha
most scratches accumulate on the inside thankfully
Love my Rabaconda, but damn can they make it taller? All that bending over hurts my back when I'm doing more than one mousse. And reality is, if you're buying a Rabaconda, you're typically doing more than one wheel!
I would hate to know I had to do it that quickly
Could someone explain what are the differences between the Michelin, Nitro Mousse, etc brands?
Good question! I'm hoping at least one brand is extra-firm and long-lasting?
We've used them all for racing out here in desert, woods and track at NHHA, WORCS, Vegas to Reno, West Hare Scrambles. We have tried all 3 of the "big brands" Michelin, Nitro and Dunlop and here is my $.02. First off, you can't use enough lube. We used the lubes that come with the mousses and those little tubes are not enough. I use 3/4 on a tube in the tire and about 1/2 a tube on the mousse (particularly the rear). WE used Murphy's tire soap as well as the stuf from Zip-Ty racing which is like Murphy's. Just hated the mess when changing so we went back to Nitromousse cooling gel. I liked the the nitro concept it had a progressive feel and was generally true to size. The issue was inconsistent manufacturing which could have been a result of COVID, but I felt they shrunk too quickly especially as my son got faster (he was running B super mini when we started using them and then up through B250). Durability was good though and feel was good. It just sucked not being able to get more than a 2 hour race out of them before having to cut and stuff. Nitro's are probably best for weekend trail riding guys that don't want to risk a flat in the woods. teh lower speeds will keep these from blistering or shrinking. We then went to use Dunlop and Michelin. I liked the Dunlop sizing as we also use Dunlop tires. The mousse had good feel and definitely held up well. The only issue is it didn't seem to rebound as well as the Michelin. Meaning, after a couple rides, they shrink, so you take them out and put them in the sun for a few hours and they will expand back out, sometimes quite significantly, to the point you cant see where the bead lock was. Anyway, really liked Dunlop, but just couldn't get as much life out of them before needing to cut and stuff. That said, far better than the Nitros'. Finally Michelin. Man they can last 3-4 race tires at least and depending on the race. We probably get 15-20 hours out of a rear mousse. Now I will say that because of desert racing we can get away with higher pressures, so I will use a 140/80-18" mousse in a 11/100-18" tire. It is a bitch getting it in there. However, once the mousse breaks in, it will last at least 3 races and then a couple more practice tire changes. Big fan of the Michelin!
So let me get this straight. I need $300 worth of tire irons to install a $120 mousse that will only last 6 months max? I'll go TUbliss or stick to regular tubes thanks.
or just pay $20 for someone to it?Don't be a dummy!
Xterrential I'm still wondering why a mousse costs more than a tube, a tube seems more difficult to produce..
Six months max yeah if you doing 100 mph desert racing
NO you dont.What you see is over kill.2 long ones and 2 short ones will do easily.
I'm guessing you have to have a bead lock or the tire will spin on the rim?
Yes ,the limited experience I've had,this can be a problem
2 is better. Some pros run 3.
, but they are also running REALLy soft(drilled) mousses.
Can this be used on road bikes too like the Honda 250 Ralley ??
FXDR-S1000R Eli C. I want to know the answer to this too!
You could, but they’re not DOT approved. Also, highway miles will wear them out really fast. Like he said in the video, heat is the enemy. High speeds generate a lot of heat and they will break down very rapidly. Also, you can’t air them up, so you may not like the lower pressure feeling especially while cornering.
could you just use dish soap for lube?
MotoBros FZ-R1 LOL
Nope, breaks down and dissipates eventually. A lot of shops will use tire soap/lube, as it withstands the heat and last a good long time. Though a reapplication with the included Michelin lube every few months isn't a bad idea.
Is it best to run a standard rim strip or duct tape?
Using duct tape won't damage them
7 irons complicates things. Never need for more than 5 usually.
Motion pro bead buddy can be very helpful
He said nude. I am dying.. great video btw
What do you do where the old valve stem opening is?
In the UK where mousses are illegal on public roads, we all put valves in. So it looks like a regular pneumatic tube.
Can this Mousse tube work with any brand of tire?
Yes as long at the sizes match up
do you have to plug the air tub hole
You should. You can use electrical tape or there are plugs that RMATC sells to
What psi do I run theses at? Can't find it on your website...
skillon4wheels no air necessary brother
axel g
I think he was being sarcastic
no,but seriously,what psi?I've been trying to put air in it and finally my tire blew a bead,almost lost my ear-sight ,week later,I still have ringing in my ears!!!!!
ВолодяВладимирович
Lmao.
@@Evil_Morty2000 With a bib moose you can run up to 75 psi.
I used to run a vice squad , this video would have sat well in a venue we dubbed Dougies Dildo Emporium.... very informative
I couldn’t afford the tyre irons.
Do you still put air in the tire?
No, you do not put any air in the tire. Installing a bib gets rid of the valve stem.
Can't have to much lube \m/👍
are you running two rim locks in place of the stem?
m1ke2001 No, you can just use a plug,
Why need a rim lock? Theres no valve stem to shear.
@@RyderLost Without the rim lock the rim will spin but the tire may not, particularly on the rear wheel. You need something to keep the rim and tire connected beyond the friction between the tire, mousse and rim. Some run two rim locks as the extra traction given with a softer tire and without the associate air pressure pushing out on the tire sides and rim lip let the rim spin inside the tire.
@@thegan9143 When we run Vegas to Reno we do not use a rim lock. At higher speeds it unbalances the wheel. Never had an issue with spin. That said for all of our other races we will run only one and typically not an issue
@@SHAPI84 For the desert runs are you using a firmer mousse to take the heat of high speeds? I'm more familiar with low speed technical where traction is maximised by running a soft mousse, some even drill them out to get a feeling of under 4-6 psi. Running double rim lock keeps the tire locked to the rim and perhaps they offset one another for balance? I've only every run one but have friends that run two like the pros I guess lol.
What do you do with the valve stem hole
Either stick a tubeless valve in or one cut from an old inner tube. You can use that to blow compressed air in to push a tyre up onto the rim that hasn't set on the rim all the way around. Take the core out to increase air flow.
@@martincooke6230 Electrical tape over the hole works just fine or RMATV sells little rubber plugs that are great. They seem softer than the Tubliss plugs.Tried the old valve stem thing and did not like it but I also have issues sometimes getting enough air pressure to push the bead out on a older mousse. Maybe I need to revisit!
@@SHAPI84 I have found problem occasionally when pressuring tyre up onto the rim. You can lose a lot of pressure around the rim lock bolt. Take the nut off and slip on a suitably sized rubber grommet and replace nut finger tight. That solves the problem for me. Don't forget to remove the grommet and tighten the nut down afterwards :)
Can these be used on the street? DOT approved? Or is the nuetech tubliss a better option? Thank you!
I imagine the heat from higher speed street use would wear the mousse out pretty quick. Tubliss isn't DOT approved but is probably a better choice if clocking some miles on pavement
ADVRX
these can not be used on the street because they will get hot and self destruct. I have run tubliss for years and love them both on and off road. they last pretty much forever also.
The Moto fixery thank your for your input. I would love to be able to carry a plug kit instead of tubes off road. Where I live I have not found any one that uses the tubliss kit. May I ask what size tires you are running?
ADVRX
i run tubliss on my ktm 500 xc-w using Pirelli scorpion mx extra x 80-100-21 front and kenda trackmaster 2 120-100-18 rear.
also on my wifes honda crf 230l using the same front and a trackmaster 2 100-100-18 rear. tubliss have a tendency to leak very slowly so I use "stans" tube less leak sealer because its not messy like slime would be and it seals everything right up perfect and absolutely no mess when you go to change tires later. stans is a product designed for mountain bike tubeless systems and is easy to find and use. I also carry a plug kit in my riding pack but it is easily possible to ride with a completely flat tire using tubliss. some people actually do intentionally to improve traction. I run 17 psi give or take on the highway and 5-10 for trails here in rocky steep Colorado. tubliss gives the sidewall of the tire some rigidity while allowing the middle where the tread is to flex and conform to the trail and also making the trail less bumpy because the tire is absorbing some of the bumps adding stability and traction.
The Moto fixery Awesome info thank you so much
What tire pressure would this equate to?
1 bar
WOW 14.5 PSI
Now when you say heat breaks it down is this not a good option for me here in Haiti? 90-100 degrees every day and have to hit street sections to connect trails.
As long as you slow down a bit on the paved roads you'll be fine. I live in the tropics and use mousse with no problems. If Haiti is anything like Cambodia ,you probably get a lot of nails in your tires.
@@fmtnic yes!! For sure tons of nails constantly. I swear every time I ride I get a flat
Is a mousse useful for trail riding?
Yes, these bib mousses are great for avoiding flat tires while trail riding and tackling rougher terrain.
@@rmatvmc Is it expected for the bib mousse to outlast the tire it's inside?
@@watts300 No, they only last about 6 months and you cannot use them on hard surfaces for long
This is stressful. How come someone cannot figure out a good tool to change tires.
I have. th-cam.com/video/QbvDipbwmdM/w-d-xo.html
You invented tyre irons?
How's it go weight wise?
Paddy Newell
think about it... tube holding air or big fat chunk of foam
Not noticable whilst riding
Its 3lbs of unsprung weight in each tire. Its noticable
How long will a moose last on average?
6 months
Make sure they are always lubed, when not using the bike, make sure there is no weight on the wheels as this can cause memory flat spots, put it up on a stand off the floor, I get nearly a year out of mine by looking after them.
Also, put valves in the rims, this stops water & crap getting in & washing all of the lube out & you can also use an airline & pump to seat the bead correctly.
My buddy got 2 full seasons out of a set. Keep them lubed and they will last. He changes tires a lot for different terrains, and they don’t have any ware. Bibs are the way to go.
Bro has 11 spoons. I do this on a box on the floor with 2.
I wish they'd make one for peeps like me, who want a longer-lasting, higher-pressure version. I don't want it for competition, just to avoid having to change tubes when far from home in the boonies. These things are too soft to use on the road, which is 70% of my riding
Loob
I would give you 2 thumbs up if I could!!!!!
They had to make it black eh 😂😂😂
Not bad my friend but you can defenetly do better.You have already the best tool on the market so make the best use of it. Lololol
8 tire irons 🤣
I have to have another set of hands and 8 irons. Now, in my defense we were building wheels for Vegas to Reno and using a 140/80-18 mousse into a 110/100-18 D756 Dunlop with very stiff sidewalls.
To much money for the time you get out of them.
When you drive 6-12, 24 hours for a race the last thing you want is a DNF or bad finish because of a flat
Will NEVER buy from this company but thanks for the vid