It's good to finally see someone playing with the minimum recommended specs. Runs better than I expected. Especially since you play on 2560x1440 while recording. it's tiring to see people praising the game on how good it runs, only to then find out they play on a 4090!
@@JTW3D Really glad to hear that my videos are reaching the right people! And, yes, thats the point, to figure out the games real practical performance with my old and trusty 2018 PC build. Though, in the future, I want to add the performance values as overlays in the videos also. Forgot to do that during thos one 😅 But nevertheless, I am going to upload similar unedited full videos like this together with edited compillations as well as general Msfs2024 news and also REVIEWS on the channel. Entired Retreat, with me, Ode, and AI-Sky, also fly over and explores real world locations in MSFS20 and/or 24 that strongly connect to topics in each episode. NOTE! We are open to audience suggestions regarding video ideas. So, if you have a location-topic combo in mind, let us now and we seriously concider your suggestion.
Yes, nice to see how it perform at minimum settings. At presents I have a six years old pc, all Asus Rog Strix components. Slightly better then your. Cpu i7 7700X, GTX1080, 32 RAM , 1x500gb + 1x1Tb SSD and until now played on a 27" Samsung monitor 1920/1024. MSFS run smooth at high settings and don't know if it is worth upgrading (motherboard+cpu+graphic card+RAM) or not. My internet connection seems ok, is 100 Mb/s. I should have to invest a lot of money to upgrade it (about 1400 euro) I like GA, gliders and bushflying and I think would be good a video in the Idaho backcountry, as example with the new trees and ground texture. Can you show us exactly your actual msfs2024 settings? Where do you see the framedates in the video? Subscribed.
Thanks a Million for the support! My thought is that if my minimum specification setup can run the game in a X-way in 2K whilst recording the results, then the vast majority can run it in a similar way, if not better. So, essentially, I am trying to create a base "worst case scenario" benchmark to learn from. My logic here is to strain the low end system slightly more then what is really needed, more then the average individual would; meaning gaming on my 2K Samsung monitor whilst recording in 2K to TH-cam, instead of playing in 1080p and recording in 1080p. This schould in theory leave some head room (more FPS) for those who decide to play Msfs 2024 in 2K or 1080p without background tasks taxing the system. Im really glad to hear that the video finds the right audience! Q&A: 1. In future videos, I plan on adding a system performance indicator as I record. My overlay was visible only for me in the Tech Alpha videos, but I strived to narrate the performance values to my best abilities so that the audience gets the information. 2. I will make sure to show my settings better to you. But NOTE! There is an edited verion of Japan, Tokyo and Mount Fuji that has clearer settings shown in it. th-cam.com/video/m2aI92A-98A/w-d-xo.html
For stuttering, check your RAM speed in the Performance tab of Task Manager (if running on PC). If your RAM is slower than your processor, this can cause stutters. For example, in my system, my CPU was running at 55mhz, but my RAM was running at the default BIOS speed of 4800mhz. In PCs, to get the RAM to run faster than the default speed, you need get the faster RAM and install it, then use the "Enable XMP" function in BIOS, and select an XMP profile in BIOS. This is very easy to do. I did this change, going from the default 4800mhz, and I bought some 6000mhz RAM with CL 30 latency (for a given RAM speed, lower CL is better), and with 2020, the difference was spectacular.
Thanks for the info. I, as the description sais, have 16Gb of 2400Mhz Ddr4 ram. Fortis, I think the model was (2018, AMD compatible ram). Of cource, upgrading my PC is in the plans... 😏 But, in the mean time, if I can upload practical examples of my low end PC strained slightly more then actually needed (2K gaming & 2K recording), then the vast majority with similar setups are gonna get a similar, or better, gaming experience then what I get. So, in a way, I am trying to showcase the base where from everything should be better. 😅
@@EmeryE2 If the ram is slower than the clock speed of your processor, then you would need to buy faster RAM. If you check Task Manager Performance Tab and your RAM is slower than your processor, pull the RAM and check the speed. If the RAM is rated as being faster than the CPU but is not running faster than the GPU, You would only have to enable XMP in BIOS and turn a profile. This is easy to do, but the exact steps would depend on your system
@@shenmisheshou7002 so I’m looking at it rn. It says ram is at 12.2 gigs in use. What do I look at to see GPU and CPU speed? There is a lot of things here, like utilization, but it’s in percentages, there’s memory for the GPU ag 1.4 gigs, shared memory, dedicated memory, etc. what do I look at to compare CPU/GPU to ram speed?
I think whole asia is not properly updated in this alpha build. I saw footage of preview event lukla airport in Nepal and surrounding area was high quality but in this alpha build they removed handcrafted airport and have ai generated airport with very low quality poly. I hope it will be better in final build.
I find these graphic fine. That mean the 4060, or 4070 would probably work quite a bit better right? (I could get 4070 ti super or 4080 super, but would prefer lower budget if possible)
Hi @MrTeabag55 (nice name😂). Yes. We are not even in the same league. A 4060 is about double, and 4070 close to three times more powerful then my 1070. Depends on the game of course. Then, the 4060 and 4070 both have DLSS 3 (AI upscaling) and Ray Tracing. And the 4070 has 12Gb of V-Ram (virtual memory); 1070 and 4060 has 8Gb of v-ram. All these are trates that benifit when playing the game. NOTE! Your other PC components affect the systems general performance. Strive for a setup that fits you budget WITHOUT introducing PC performance "bottlenecks". 👍 Maybe someone with a system similar to what you plan on building, or with more knowledge then us, can share their experience and help a fellow flight simmer in need of assistance here? #EntiredRetreatHelpers🙏
What about my case? I5 9400f 32 gb ddr4 2666mhz Rtx 3060ti 200mbit dowload/ 30-40mbit upload max.... So im under minimun with cpu, somewhere barely above minimum graphics...onky internet connecrion is ok
@@roklaca3138 Im no specialist, and I am sure that some kind soul in the chat will help you and me out on this, but you have my setup beaten in every spec category... I think? Unsure about the CPU (cores&threads etc...), and I think a 3060ti has the 1070 clearly beaten. (Check the video description for mt setup.) So, your system will run the game fine. Remember, 40-45fps is a good target in my humble opinnion. Unless you go full on Maveric mode between skyscrapers, you do not NEED more then that in a flight-sim. Heck, even 30fps is perfectly playable. The only question is, that how much grafical beauty we want to squeeze out from our setups. 😄
@@hobiegal My bad! Thanks for clarifying. 👍 Honestly, I wondered as I did not find the Red-White Tokyo-Tower. I have to change the title of the video. Though, the test-part still does what it is supposed to do.
Yep. I since played the game with Xbox controller. 😂 BUT! Check out my landing at the root of the Eifel Tower in Paris France. th-cam.com/video/yctHnMBe4Hg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pcaUNs8njCGzw0YX How many point do you give me for that one? 🛬🪂😅
If series X, then yes because the XboxSX is way more powerful then this minimum spec pc I did the tests on. Even the XboxSS is more powerful. And this is the graphically capped/downgraded Tech Alpha. The full version should be alot better. 🤞
Yes, possibly. It depends what kind of system you have seen the game run on. I do tests with a minimum specification pc, and it is the technical alpha build of the game. Microsoft emphazised that the graphics are not reprecenting the final product. So, take the graphics with a "grain of salt".
It's good to finally see someone playing with the minimum recommended specs. Runs better than I expected. Especially since you play on 2560x1440 while recording.
it's tiring to see people praising the game on how good it runs, only to then find out they play on a 4090!
@@JTW3D Really glad to hear that my videos are reaching the right people!
And, yes, thats the point, to figure out the games real practical performance with my old and trusty 2018 PC build. Though, in the future, I want to add the performance values as overlays in the videos also. Forgot to do that during thos one 😅
But nevertheless, I am going to upload similar unedited full videos like this together with edited compillations as well as general Msfs2024 news and also REVIEWS on the channel. Entired Retreat, with me, Ode, and AI-Sky, also fly over and explores real world locations in MSFS20 and/or 24 that strongly connect to topics in each episode.
NOTE! We are open to audience suggestions regarding video ideas. So, if you have a location-topic combo in mind, let us now and we seriously concider your suggestion.
Yes, nice to see how it perform at minimum settings. At presents I have a six years old pc, all Asus Rog Strix components. Slightly better then your. Cpu i7 7700X, GTX1080, 32 RAM , 1x500gb + 1x1Tb SSD and until now played on a 27" Samsung monitor 1920/1024. MSFS run smooth at high settings and don't know if it is worth upgrading (motherboard+cpu+graphic card+RAM) or not. My internet connection seems ok, is 100 Mb/s. I should have to invest a lot of money to upgrade it (about 1400 euro) I like GA, gliders and bushflying and I think would be good a video in the Idaho backcountry, as example with the new trees and ground texture. Can you show us exactly your actual msfs2024 settings? Where do you see the framedates in the video? Subscribed.
Thanks a Million for the support!
My thought is that if my minimum specification setup can run the game in a X-way in 2K whilst recording the results, then the vast majority can run it in a similar way, if not better. So, essentially, I am trying to create a base "worst case scenario" benchmark to learn from. My logic here is to strain the low end system slightly more then what is really needed, more then the average individual would; meaning gaming on my 2K Samsung monitor whilst recording in 2K to TH-cam, instead of playing in 1080p and recording in 1080p. This schould in theory leave some head room (more FPS) for those who decide to play Msfs 2024 in 2K or 1080p without background tasks taxing the system. Im really glad to hear that the video finds the right audience!
Q&A:
1. In future videos, I plan on adding a system performance indicator as I record. My overlay was visible only for me in the Tech Alpha videos, but I strived to narrate the performance values to my best abilities so that the audience gets the information.
2. I will make sure to show my settings better to you. But NOTE! There is an edited verion of Japan, Tokyo and Mount Fuji that has clearer settings shown in it. th-cam.com/video/m2aI92A-98A/w-d-xo.html
i ran msfs 2020 fine with 2700 and 3060 ti dont plan to upgrade any time soon for 2024 msfs
Wait, What? No joystick or yoke? Nah I'll wait till you put out a video with some type of control device.
@@DarthPlaya I got an Xbox controller now... Is that something you "aprove" of? 😅🙃
For stuttering, check your RAM speed in the Performance tab of Task Manager (if running on PC). If your RAM is slower than your processor, this can cause stutters. For example, in my system, my CPU was running at 55mhz, but my RAM was running at the default BIOS speed of 4800mhz. In PCs, to get the RAM to run faster than the default speed, you need get the faster RAM and install it, then use the "Enable XMP" function in BIOS, and select an XMP profile in BIOS. This is very easy to do. I did this change, going from the default 4800mhz, and I bought some 6000mhz RAM with CL 30 latency (for a given RAM speed, lower CL is better), and with 2020, the difference was spectacular.
Thanks for the info. I, as the description sais, have 16Gb of 2400Mhz Ddr4 ram. Fortis, I think the model was (2018, AMD compatible ram). Of cource, upgrading my PC is in the plans... 😏 But, in the mean time, if I can upload practical examples of my low end PC strained slightly more then actually needed (2K gaming & 2K recording), then the vast majority with similar setups are gonna get a similar, or better, gaming experience then what I get. So, in a way, I am trying to showcase the base where from everything should be better. 😅
@@entiredretreatIf the CPU is over heating it will cause stuttering. Please monitor the temp and usage
What if my ram is basically unable to be changed? I have 16 gigs, I went to Best Buy, and they said that my ram was basically stuck on.
@@EmeryE2 If the ram is slower than the clock speed of your processor, then you would need to buy faster RAM. If you check Task Manager Performance Tab and your RAM is slower than your processor, pull the RAM and check the speed. If the RAM is rated as being faster than the CPU but is not running faster than the GPU, You would only have to enable XMP in BIOS and turn a profile. This is easy to do, but the exact steps would depend on your system
@@shenmisheshou7002 so I’m looking at it rn. It says ram is at 12.2 gigs in use. What do I look at to see GPU and CPU speed? There is a lot of things here, like utilization, but it’s in percentages, there’s memory for the GPU ag 1.4 gigs, shared memory, dedicated memory, etc. what do I look at to compare CPU/GPU to ram speed?
I think whole asia is not properly updated in this alpha build. I saw footage of preview event lukla airport in Nepal and surrounding area was high quality but in this alpha build they removed handcrafted airport and have ai generated airport with very low quality poly. I hope it will be better in final build.
I find these graphic fine. That mean the 4060, or 4070 would probably work quite a bit better right? (I could get 4070 ti super or 4080 super, but would prefer lower budget if possible)
Hi @MrTeabag55 (nice name😂). Yes. We are not even in the same league. A 4060 is about double, and 4070 close to three times more powerful then my 1070. Depends on the game of course.
Then, the 4060 and 4070 both have DLSS 3 (AI upscaling) and Ray Tracing. And the 4070 has 12Gb of V-Ram (virtual memory); 1070 and 4060 has 8Gb of v-ram. All these are trates that benifit when playing the game.
NOTE! Your other PC components affect the systems general performance. Strive for a setup that fits you budget WITHOUT introducing PC performance "bottlenecks". 👍
Maybe someone with a system similar to what you plan on building, or with more knowledge then us, can share their experience and help a fellow flight simmer in need of assistance here? #EntiredRetreatHelpers🙏
1080p vs 1440p main difference you will see is vram usage.
Yep. Though, I am glad to se that my 8Gb V-Ram did not cap out at medium settings. 🙌
What about my case?
I5 9400f
32 gb ddr4 2666mhz
Rtx 3060ti
200mbit dowload/ 30-40mbit upload max....
So im under minimun with cpu, somewhere barely above minimum graphics...onky internet connecrion is ok
@@roklaca3138 Im no specialist, and I am sure that some kind soul in the chat will help you and me out on this, but you have my setup beaten in every spec category... I think? Unsure about the CPU (cores&threads etc...), and I think a 3060ti has the 1070 clearly beaten. (Check the video description for mt setup.)
So, your system will run the game fine. Remember, 40-45fps is a good target in my humble opinnion. Unless you go full on Maveric mode between skyscrapers, you do not NEED more then that in a flight-sim. Heck, even 30fps is perfectly playable. The only question is, that how much grafical beauty we want to squeeze out from our setups. 😄
I'm sure they're gonna fix the performance issues. But then, it's FS2024 we're talking about.
😅🤞
27:36 This is not Tokyo, it’s Yokohama. Tokyo is a bit northeast of Yokohama.
@@hobiegal My bad! Thanks for clarifying. 👍 Honestly, I wondered as I did not find the Red-White Tokyo-Tower. I have to change the title of the video. Though, the test-part still does what it is supposed to do.
GPU 1070 with keyboard 🤔😂
Yep. I since played the game with Xbox controller. 😂 BUT! Check out my landing at the root of the Eifel Tower in Paris France.
th-cam.com/video/yctHnMBe4Hg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=pcaUNs8njCGzw0YX
How many point do you give me for that one? 🛬🪂😅
the min soecs look whorse than 2020 on the xbox
If series X, then yes because the XboxSX is way more powerful then this minimum spec pc I did the tests on. Even the XboxSS is more powerful. And this is the graphically capped/downgraded Tech Alpha. The full version should be alot better. 🤞
Fs2020 scenery for Tokyo is much better. If this is 2024 scenery it difficult to understand as to what the msfs team is boasting about
I agree... But Microsoft emphazised that Msfs 2024 Technical Alpha does not represent the final product. So, there is hope? 🤞😅
From this it looks worse than msfs2020.
Yes, possibly. It depends what kind of system you have seen the game run on. I do tests with a minimum specification pc, and it is the technical alpha build of the game. Microsoft emphazised that the graphics are not reprecenting the final product. So, take the graphics with a "grain of salt".
Would be interesting to try it with the "Lossless Scaling program".
Im unfamiliar with this. Care to explain? Maybe I can look into it.
@@entiredretreat link supplied, I found it added about 10 -15 fps in 2020 with high settings at 1440p
The colours are incredibly wrong. Bland and washed out.
Cry
They are, depending on the situation, lets say, more athmospheric or hazy, yes. Not as contrastful as Msfs 2020, maybe?