European Truck are designed around EU regulations on length, width, height, turning circles and maximum weights allowed on cross border operations. This pretty much means needing to use a cabover design as a conventional design would mean only being able to pull a far shorter trailer to stay within the legal limits.
But even before EU regulations the cab over design was most common for heavy trucks. From the late 60s onwards it was mainly cabover designs from the major European truck producers, and even more-so throughout the 70s. There might have been some national regulations, but I’m not sure if there were any international regulations at the time.
The cab overs are the only practical option in the UK due to very restricted road space and small loading areas you need to use every inch of available space at times, I currently drive the scania it's an excellent truck nice interior with good engine and gearbox but for some reason my current employer has speced the 460 hp for our fleet which is a bit underpowered especially as we are pulling double deck trailers weighing regularly close to 44 tons at times especially crossing the pennine hills you can be down to 30 on the motorway with the engine giving its all probably should have had 550 hp the reasoning was the fuel economy of the 450 are better, the only issues with all trucks in the UK and EU are the short wheelbase so you can have a bumpy ride especially with the lift axle up
For Americans, 44 metric tons (which is almost the same as UK Imperial tons) are around 10% heavier than than American tons. So that 44 metric ton load is 48.5 US tons, or 97,000 pounds.
A good place to compare them for things such as fuel consumption is here in Australia since we run both. I quite often see Merc or Scania Cabovers pulling triples, and then just down the road there will be a Mack or Freightliner pulling something similar. Then there are Kenworths, known through most of the world for "conventional" design, but we have the K220....
@@1978sjt You’re 100% correct. Trucking in Australia proves to the world that both types have their pros and cons and most importantly, that they can be used to complement each other.
In Brazil, the most common are trucks from 440 to 540 HP, maximum capacity 74T, automatic transmission. Volvo, Scania, DAF, Mercedes Bens, Iveco, speed limit 80km/h, limit of 9 axles, however we have trucks of up to 800 hp, but in special loads.
The reason why Scania and Volvo have so powerful engines is most likely a lot because of the competition between these "big swedes". Volvo's biggest engine was 12 liter for many years and Scania's biggest was the 14 liter V8 also for many years. Then Volvo introduced the 16.1 liter engine and of course Scania had to make a bigger 16.4 liter engine with a little more power. The "horsepower war" has always been there. When Scania had 730hp Volvo made a 750 hp version. Of course Scania had to make an even more powerful engine with 770hp. Scania is called "The king of the road" so naturally they need to have the strongest engines. Interesting to see if this "war" stops with these engines.
A great place to compare cab overs with conventional trucks is Australia. The wheelbase of American trucks here is way shorter than in the US. Consequently you get quite a few American brand trucks in cab over configuration. But conventional American trucks in Australia do not have the space advantage like the US because of shorter wheelbase requirements. Conventional US trucks look very narrow and short compared to a Euro or US badged cab over. That said conventional US trucks are still very popular with owner operators here, which may or not have something to do with image.
1:20 i would say that the american trucks are probobly slightly more stream lined than Europa. The diffrance is not huge, but i would say the US trucks is probably taking that win 5:45 Just because there is a distance there don´t imply its a crumple zone. Even in European trucks the drivers sit quite a bit back 6:30 Just becasue a system is simpler, don´t imply it use less maintenance, that is not how reality works. For instance, the euro-trailing axle for sure use less wheel wear than the US double twin axles.
One would think that out of the looks.. however, you are dead wrong. If you don't believe me, then do your research. If you put a cabover and a hoodie truck in a wind tunnel. The Cabover have much less wind turbulence as the wind hit the truck and goes over and around the cab. Its called drag. And US hoodie truck has more drag.
As a European car guy I like trucks that remind me of normal passenger cars that I see on the roads in EU. So I would prefer a Volvo, Mercedes or as a non-premium brand Renault, or from my own country a Daf, who used to build cars once too. Any conventional nosed truck stands out here on the road. It is always a pleasure to see one occasionally.
The only con for the European one is the living space, but many drivers like myself(in UK anyway) are doing 8-12 hours shifts and we go home and the end of the day. With that in account, there is no con lol
The two continent's truck usage and requirements are so different that its hard to make a valid comparison. COE and short wheelbase is essential in Europe due to our tight city streets and turns, deliveries are often made by semi-truck straight to a city center store rather than downtown distribution centers. European trucks are generally company owned and driven by full time salary drivers, so they don't need the big sleeper cabs that are common on American driver owned trucks which often are secondary homes for their drivers who drive long distances over many days away from home. Many European countries have steep mountain grades and passes which require powerful engines and manoueverability on tight switchbacks and curves, the Alps and Pyrenees mountain ranges surprise many US drivers first time. So its basically down to different trucks for different uses.
@Truck Tropia, I have to correct you on the crash comparisons that you made, European trucks have a high level of crash safety, and the cab is designed to withstand huge G forces that are present in RTAs (road traffic accidents), the cabs don't collapse so readily and also the cab is designed to separate from the chassis in the event of an accident thus offering the driver a significant amount of protection, please do your research before producing any more comparison videos against American and European trucks, so far all the comparison videos you have produced show bias towards American trucks, how about you do a video about a comparison of braking systems in American and European trucks, and if you do your research properly I know who will come out on top in that video.
@@poormangaming2970 look some Scania crush tests: the cabs will partially shear of of their suspensions and thus mitigate g forces for the drivers. Both cabs and frames are rigid with a little bit of crumple zones in front and the main safety mechanism being the way the cab is sheared from its suspension. Basically: there is no way you can absorb the energy of a 40t truck, but for
That reminds me of the Studénka train crash from 2015 when a high speed train hit a Polish semi truck on a railroad crossing at 160 km/h and, because the cabin immediately shreded off the suspension on impact, the truck driver survived with minor injuries. If the cabin wouldve stayed on the truck base, he wouldve likely died or at least wouldve been severely injured.
We have to be honoust here on both sides, What we call international transport in Europe is a drive from the Netherlands to Spain well under 2000km one way. That wont get you far in the US. That said, if we want to compare US to European trucks we need to compare them to Scania XXL cabs, in the US the truck is more then just going from A to B for a week and then be back home for the weekend, it is the truckers house. And i think despite the extra costs, every American trucker wants a Scania XXL V8 to make their life 300% better
As an American trucker, I think they're all pretty cool. I want to get my hands on kne of those cabover and try for myself one day. I hear theh ridemic better, and have a higher build quality. The trucks we have here rattle around and lurch and jerk and whatnot over slight bumps. A lot of Volvo VNL's doors don't even shut all of the way. I see images of the FH's and I'm immediately jealous. That said,I couldn't imagine being OTR with such a lack of space. Every truck I drove OTR was basically a miniature house on wheels. I had space to cook, game, exercise, use the bathroom if it was necessary, and whatever else I had to do.
Not a truck driver - merely average European that had chance to drive about 1-2 Km "shotgun" in one of those when friend trucker was in the hood for official business and situation (including boss which is also truck owner being OK) allowed for him to pick up our old furniture and drive it basically across Europe. No hinge trailer of 18 meters (hinge only on connection of trailer and truck) was mostly OK coming near by our Amsterdam suburbia head on - well except I could completely see into first floor of all the neighbors (ground floor is usually 2.5-2.7 meters, with ~1 meter of wall before windows start - driver/passenger heads seemed to be 4 meters above street). And to do reverse 180 turn - well luckily some neighbors in nearby side street were home, so I could politely ask them if they could move their car (technically on their land in front of their house).
Why not take a look at the DAF XG+ cabin. Despite being a cabover, the space and room available is impressive. And with Paccar engines, designed for european standards with upto 530 HP.....state of the art...
I'm not a truckdriver, but i heard those Scania trucks (with the V8) and Mercedes are really nice. I think Mercedes will have very light steering, but i am just basing that of off those vans you can drive with a normal car license.
This video is nonsense, the EU trucks are better at any single point, and about cabin with great interior space as you like, please check as example the Volvo Expedite 120" High Roof Bolt Sleeper, or the bigger one the 156" Mega Sleeper Volvo VNL64T300 D13, or the VOLVO VNL, they will put at shame any US truck cabin!!!!
Worth remembering that MPG is different in USA because you guys can't get with the times and think a gallon is 3.8 litres, when for the rest of us its 4.5 litres per gallon, so comparing the numbers requires this knowledge before hand
Well... For the rest of the worl, a gallon does not exist. We use the system that was used to calculate the moon landings. And yes, it was done in metric ;)
I presume the fuel economy comparisons are on a like for like basis, but then again one cannot presume anything when it comes to TH-cam videos. For example, the video claims greater availability of spare parts for US trucks, but is that in the US or in Europe?
really American and European trucks share powertrain. Volvo engines are used by Mack and Renault. Detroit diesel and Mercedes engines are really the same engines. Paccar MX is used in Europe on DAF trucks. ZF, Paccar, Mercedes, Eaton and Allison transmissions are used on US and EU trucks.
I have a 99 FLD with a 12.7 Series 60. All needed is ; diesel, oil, filters and tires here and there. I love to see my long hood “guiding” me into the sunrise. I wouldn’t drive in Europe. Everything is too small and crowded, and, over regulated. (BTW, I was born there).
In the Philippines Japanese trucks, American trucks, & Chinese trucks are dominate here in my home and as a truckers driver from helper to driver american truck are much better when it comes to size, performamce, and comfort based on my experience.
Some European manufacturers do make long bonnet conventional trucks like the Scania T cab. I like them both, the European trucks are sleek and modern but I also love the boxy rugged look of the US trucks 👍
@Strawby88, I hate to burst your bubble but that information is incorrect, in Europe and the UK trucks the maximum limit that the limiter can be set is 56mph(90kph), a lot of companies choose to have the limiter set at 50mph(80kph) to save on fuel.
@@davidjames990 that's not what I meant mate, 80 kmh is the official speed limit on the road for trucks, White the trucks themselves are limited to 90 kmh
@Strawby88, check this link out it will tell you otherwise: - www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+speed+limit+for+trucks+in+europe&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgAECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMgkIARAjGCcY6gIyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQIxgnGOoCMgkIBxAjGCcY
I am American but I have driven in both Europe and North America. I agree 100% about what you covered in your videos; that is American trucks were designed for North America and the European trucks for Europe. Giving my honest opinion I like trucking in North America better than Europe. Don't get me wrong, I did like going from country to country in Europe and Italy was my favorite to go to. I liked entering the next European country and enjoyed the culture change. For example, traveling from Germany and going into France and on to Spain or England. What makes trucking better here in the United States is that our highway system is designed for constant travel and American trucks are much more habitable than the European counterparts are. I am on the road for six weeks at a time sometimes and even the best Scania, DAF, Renault or Iveco just wound not cut it here in the United States!! Last but not least the thing that I detested the most in the EU countries was Sunday/Holiday driving restrictions for trucks!! I hated the fact that often times I would be stuck away from home because of these ludicrous restrictions!! I hated also starting up at 10:00 PM and driving all night and not be able to sleep during the day especially in the summer!! It is alot better here in North America to keep my biorhythm here in North America that Europe. True, not all of the EU countries have driving restrictions on big trucks but all the Central European countries have them. The UK, Ireland, the Scandinavian countries and Finland, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Holland do allow Sunday driving for trucks.
As a European, i prefer the American version, however EU brands also produce the American model ''torpedo nose'' as we call it. Only due to law (afcourse, it HAS to be the government again) we have limits in length for trucks, so the short cab is always the choice because companies want max cargospace.
I wouldn't really call a "square", sleek or streamlined, but I do like the looks of European trucks. l also love the nostalgic looks of the classic American cabovers of Peterbilt, Freightliner, International, and others. One of my favorite looks is the customized versions of classic American model cabovers with extended frames. I wouldn't mind seeing someone waist their money stretching a European model. It would probably look pretty cool and be a totally useless truck in Europe. I like European trucks, but boxes aren't incredibly curvy or streamlined, well, in my opinion anyway. One thing to remember, is when you drive a cabover, and you are in an accident, you will definitely be the first person on the scene. So, buckle those belts... GOOD!
@@TruckTropia, wrong, they are set at 56mph because that is the legal speed limit, companies tend to have them set at 50pmh to save on fuel, please do your research before making comments, and I have mentioned this to you in your previous videos you are bias towards American trucks.
@@TruckTropia, there are different speed limits for different types of roads, the maximum speed limit throughout Europe is 56 mph(90kph), this is some information I took from a Google search: - In Germany and other European Union countries, trucks with a gross vehicle weight rating of 3.5 tonnes (7,700 pounds) or more must have a governor that limits their speed to 90 kph (54 miles per hour). Nov 15, 2005
Would be interesting to see wind tunnel tests done on the aerodynamics. Have a gut feeling there is little difference and as the cab over cuts through the air in one swath the conventional you have the rad then the windshield followed by the trailer. Conventionals often have a roof fairing. Might be easier to make the front of a cab over more aerodynamic than a vehicle that has 3 points.
As an American, I'll say that European trucks are very interesting since it's the unknown. However, I'll always choose American trucks. I don't like all of the new technology in a truck anyway, so Euro trucks don't appeal to me. They remind me of oversized four-wheelers. American trucks are just overall better trucks, but even then, I'm not into all American trucks, either, especially the newer aero trucks, which also reminds me of an oversized four-wheelers, with all the same modern technology as the Euro trucks. I like classic trucks with a long straight hood on the front. I don't need all of the sensors, etc., that come with the newer models. It makes the job very annoying. I'd rather control my own truck vs. allowing a computer to control my truck. I also would prefer a dash full of gauges and switches vs. a dash with screens and switches. Although Europe may have stronger stock motors, it doesn't mean that an American truck can't be tuned to exceed 750 HP and above! I've driven trucks at 850 HP here in America, so power is not a big deal, and the heaviest load unless you are an oversized load is 80k, and even at 100k, which I've pulled with a 550 HP motor, these American motors can still pull with no problem. I also love a Cat motor, which is the best motor you can have in an American truck. A cabover doesn't seem fun to drive at all to me bcuz it looks so easy to maneuver. I don't look for a truck to maneuver like a four-wheeler, I look for it to maneuver like a truck. Long hood trucks give you a challenge, especially in big cities and tight areas, but can get into the same places that an aero truck and a cabover can get into. It may be a little more work, but it will definitely get on. Long hood trucks really teach a driver how to really drive and maneuver a big truck. Also, Long hoods give a feeling that no other truck can give. It gives you a boss feeling, especially bcuz average drivers are afraid of that style of truck. It sets the men apart from the boys! Cabovers and aero trucks don't give that feeling. The old classic cabover and aero trucks might still provide that feeling, but definitely not the modern cabovers and aero trucks that we have in America. Most guys who drive long hoods aren't concerned with maneuverability, weight dispersment, aero dynamics, or fuel consumption. These types of guys just love classic trucks, and we make it work. If there is a will, there is a way. I've done things with long hood trucks that you wouldn't even think it could do, but with patience and hard work, you can make it do what it can't do! Only a certain type of man or woman chooses to drive a long hood. Normally, the few, the set-apart, and the proud, lol! IJS! I have to give it to Scania, though! Those are some interesting Euro trucks! I won't even pretend like Euro trucks aren't engineered 10 times better than our American trucks, though. However, I still choose the good ole classic American long hood, lol!
In Europe both the Truck and Semi Trailer are measured together which was the case in North America but by the 1980s only the Semi Trailer Length has been Restricted but not the Power Unit, with a lot of the Power Units being stretched to ridiculous lengths beyond belief. I’ve driven both European and North American Trucks (Semi and Rigid): European Trucks are Safer both Structurally, in Handling, Durability and ABS Coordinated between Power Units and Full or Semi Trailers. The Swedish Crash Test separates the Safest Trucks from those Ineligible to be Sold in Sweden.
One thing I'm considering is docking (I hope it's the proper term in english). As a European, we have lots of unconventional and "technical" docking and a long american trucks wouldn't even be able to do it. I remember seeing videos, notably one in amsterdam where the american drivers where comenting on how good the driver is while european drivers where responding that no, that's a pretty normal docking. I'm not at all saying that american drivers are bad, but their truck don't allow them to do what we can do here in eaurope, but well, they don't need it so the video is ultimately right, each type of truck is adapted to it's environment.
Bharat switched to Cabovers a long while ago probably in the late 1960s, probably because of the European influence through Leyland. Never seen a Leyland with a long nose in Bharat, there were a few Benz trucks but once TAT took over completely they were just Cabovers. This presentation ended like the eighteenth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita where the Lord Sri Krishna tells his protégé Arjuna. I have given you all the necessary knowledge, you now decide and do what is right.
As a European, I prefer US trucks in terms of exterior and EU trucks (specially Scania) when it comes to interior. 😅 But too bad that scania doesn't exist in NA and that Volvo doesn't offer the European FH cabover as wn alternative option, coz I heard that driving to NYC or Chicago is pain in the ass with an traditional American semi. So a flat nosed FH 500 with its dual clutch transmission and the short wheelbase would be the perfect fit for this kind of environment and would save the driver a lot of nerves 😂
It is strange to me that as an example a Detroit diesel engine only gives 400-500 HP from 14,8 liters cylinder volume. Strange because cars with 3 liters engines normally gives 150- 300 HP which if you transfer it to almost 15 liters would give 750- 1500 HP.
drving the usa trucks is much harder. it would be nice to drive a cab over view see more of the road and nature i feel. however the cab overs feel to small for long haul. the usa trucks u can chill and relax. its like a mini apartment in there.
Different needs and use cases. I pondered it but in america, it won't work due to extremely low clearance on some bridges and terrible infrastructure that chews up even the sturdiest rigs.
European trucks are designed better more powerful V8S also longer lasting vs 6 in america yet they are shorter one axle in the back three on the trailer so they're more maneuverable in tight city streets intersection turning as Europe is more congested less open roads more tight city street turning besidesall the weight is in the trailer anyway. European technology always ahead.
PACCAR is NOT a manufacturer of engines or trucks. The so-called PACCAR engines MX-11 and MX-13 are developed and produced by DAF Trucks at Brainport Eindhoven the Netherlands. The engine is metric till the very last bold. No more no less. The so-called Paccar engine MX-15 (non-metric!!) is developed and produced by Cummins. PACCAR is the proud mother of three great truck brands: DAF, Kenworth and Peterbilt.
For me the main difference is the flexibility.Try going into Europe's Industrial estates or doing deliveries with that extra length.Also the video is not correct about the speed limit which is 90kph or 56mph Universally in Europe.
American trucks were designed for longer trips than ours in Europe. More power and they're tougher. In Europe the best is Volvo. The worst truck is Mercedes. Costs too much,unreliable and frail like glass,easily the worst truck Europe has. That story of german car is perfection is the biggest myth in the car history. I have yet to see a truck driver in Europe talking badly about american trucks,they love them.
American trucks are not the most powerful, most of their stock engine reach the maximum of 600-650hp whike europeans trucks around 750-770hp . US older engines that include CATs and Cummins are just easier to tune so europeans trucks are more powerful. About Mercedes? Yeah I heard that the new semi trucks suck in terms of reliability but not in quality. Talking about cars? German cars are the most advanced in the world and as for a lot of cars not all are reliable, german with italian engineering can't be beaten. The only thing that american trucks have more than europeans are probably the look nothing else but is a matter of opinion, I love Scania, Volvo, Mercedes and Kenworth Trucks
@@teo10s Truck drivers from here talked about old International or Mack trucks they drove before in South America,not one of them had anything bad to say about them,monsters according to them. They had more technology and advancements at that time than european trucks. What they have now should be even better. In Europe they say Volvo beats all the others and Sweden has the best trucks. There is something different in the american design,more aggressive and truck drivers mostly like toughness in trucks than anything else. Mercedes here is not good,they all say it breaks easily and that is not quality,this brand is overrated for years,old cars had big engines and weak power and new ones are expensive and unrealiable. Volvo,MAN and DAF might compete there with american trucks and there is preference to put into account but not Mercedes,it has no chance.
@@teo10s German cars are the most advanced? Reliable? They cost much more in all aspects (purchase, maintenance, repair). Compare that to Japanese cars ... although they have become very pricey over last decades they are cheap in maintenance and very reliable.
I know truck mechanics who spent time in the States and they said they’re out of date and underpowered. And lots of European drivers spend weeks on the road due to cabotage. It’s a myth that they’re not doing long trips.
Honestly i dont like the look of cabovers but theres really no "better" truck, cuz for america we need big cabs for longhaul unlike european where its kinda short distance like one state to another which could be done in 7-12 hrs depending on traffic and size of the state.. and america trucks are more comfortable for the long ride where ive heard European bounces too much, but european is better fitted for its place for being shorter and nimble to turn in theyre roads
Well that’s just plain ignorance. European drivers are frequently on the road for weeks at a time. For example, a driver from Ireland could take a ferry to France (15 hrs), drive to Naples (2-3 days driving), drop a load, drive to Turin (1 day) to pick up another load, drive it to Vienna, drop it and pick up another load, drive it to Rotterdam (1-2 days), drive to Prague (1 day), back to Roscoff (2 days) and back on the ferry home. It’s called cabotage and lots of European drivers live on the road most of the time.
@@FillioxyVlogs Europe has a max length for the vehicle and there’s only so much you can cram in. But there lots of truck stops with showers, diners etc. so most drivers will try and stop at one of them rather than in the middle of nowhere.
@@FillioxyVlogs EU trucks have also, micro, fridge, lots of storage boxes, good bed, what else you need? WC? why? you can jump out of truck to piss or poop on gas station, also EU trucks have air suspension at least on axles which able em to change height and also make driving much more comfortable, also cab suspension at least springs, but more often air suspension now which also give loots of comfort, it looks wigly outside but inside it is totally different story, also EU cabs have MUCH BETTER sound isolation
Rounded corners and deflectors. That is how some airliners that seemed blunt (747, A380, etc.) became more aerodynamic than they look. Keeping surface smooth is another factor. Notice some newer European trucks cover the side steps with the doors (longer underhang).
I must say its his opinion and I also think euro trucks are better cuz they got a pretty amazing look they are also a lot safer since they don't have a nose so it increases your line of sight inside the truck
European trucks are nice but us American truck drivers like simplicity, cost efficiency, space, reliance, and safety. I mean the pinnacle of truck drivers to us are those who have driven one million miles or more, with no incidents ,and drives a manual, square body with no rust and is lit up like a Christmas tree. Plus our roads are bigger and fit for conventional. I imagine the distances driven in America are much longer which is why our trucks have so much space... I think. I can't speak for Europe.
Safety... Shows crash test on video with hood going in cab, 100% safe. US truck on crash - you get 2 drivers for free now. EU trucks very safe and actually have lots of space inside, i can stay full height with my 187 cm inside our Volvo FM truck, and FH is even bigger
The UK speed limits for HGVs is 60mph on motorways and dual carriageways and 50mph on single carriageway roads.Most trucks will be restricted to 56mph as this is seen as the most fuel efficient speed whilst still allowing the driver to complete their work.
I don't know much about Semi-Trucks. Yet, European trucks are way more practical for their home market and they suit well for ferry travelling. But US trucks look "cooler". There's a reason Coca Cola uses US trucks in Germany for their Christmas promotion. th-cam.com/video/Eixs7A_0Bz4/w-d-xo.html
90Km/h is the maximum legal setting for a commercial vehicle speed limiter, different countries have different speed limits for heavy commercial vehicles, such as 80Km/h in Germany.
...but if you drive only 80km/h max on a german Autobahn, all the other trucks honk at you and look like they would beat you up once you stop. @@medler2110
80,000lbs? That's just 25 southern and eastern states only that allows the truck to have a maximum load weight of 80,000 lbs The weight for most American trucks in 25 states the West is 100,000-193,800 lbs
At 1:14 Aerodynamics.... The American trucks are more aerodynamic, there is little chance a brick-nose like the CoE trucks can have aerodynamics as clean as having the engine nacelle out front to break the wind....if, a CoE truck is more aerodynamic, then the conventional truck they are testing against has been poorly designed. With both of them having the same level and skill of design, it is improbable to match the conventional....
@montecorbit8280, if that is the case then explain why European trucks return a better mpg than their USA counterparts, bearing in mind that US trucks run faster at 80,000lbs(36 metric tonnes) compared to Europe and the UK that run at 56mph(90kph) at 40 metric tonnes to 50 metrics tonnes depending on the country and having larger engines that US built trucks, in the UK they have a maximum trailer height 16ft these trailers are what they call double deckers because they can carry 52 standard pallets, the roads in the US tend to be relatively straight whereas in Europe and the UK the only straight roads are the motorways(highways) so your theory is debunked.
Modern american trucks are. But european trucks is actually consideraly more streamlined than they look. The thing is, European trucks are usually just alowed to drive 80, while american trucks typically can drive 110-120km/h. So the european trucks don´t benefit that much from streamline. The air resistance is lower regardless. A other diffrance is that european trucks allow for 8 or 9 bar pressure while american trucks allow for 6 or 7 bar pressure. This reduce the roiling resistance of European trucks
@@matsv201, another reason that European trucks are so fuel efficient is that the trailer is closely coupled, the gap between the rear of the cab and the front of the trailer is as minimal as possible so that no dirty air can get between the unit and trailer, but because the Americans think that everything needs to be big, they design trucks so poorly. For example, for some reason, America has trailers 57 ft long on a sliding axle setup, why? There is no need for it whatsoever, a triaxle setup with a deeper kingpin would immediately solve that. American trucks usually run at a maximum of 36 metric tonnes(80,000 lbs) on five axles, which causes axle weight issues, yet in the UK the majority of trucks run on 6 axles at 44 metric tonnes(96,800 lbs) with a 45 ft trailer with no axle weight issues also the majority of trucks are fitted with a sliding fifth wheel in case there are any axle weight issues which normally occur on the steering axle.
True but the fact that they are only inline 6's now instead of V8's kinda piss me off. Even with modern pickup trucks they are only inline 6's unless you get the Dually Work Trucks that are only V8's. Also because of the inline 6 you don't get as much torque that you would prefer because everything is about fuel economy now. Look at the New Corvette for example. It's no longer a 700+ hp V8. It's now a 450hp mid engine Inline 6 now.
@@poormangaming2970 Wrong! Its actually quite very aerodynamic, there are all measures put in place fir them to be as good as possible while also maximizing their cargo capacity and significantly much better acces to small roads
Lets be real here, if you want a modern, comfortable, powerful, feature rich truck which is easy to drive and never more than 30 mins from the nearest mechanic then you're going for an EU truck. If you want to pretend you have a superior experience because of patriotism and a toilet then the American option will be great for you
lol=) We have Volvo FM16 in our company outside of regular maintenance it never breaks, so it visit service for like twice a year and that's it, EU trucks can run millions of kilometers without breakdowns and that's it
@@matsv201 Wrong many countries in Europe, such as Germany, Austria, Poland, the Max speed is 80km/h, other, such as France, Spain its 90km/h, the UK its 60mph, but speed limiters still legally have to be set to max of 90km/h 56mph.
Im a truck driver and drove mostly in europe but have moved to the usa since 2018. I always believed european automobile technology was way advanced to USA tech and it is but that doesnt mean its better. American trucks last a really long time and the parts/repair is so much cheaper here. I have come to realize that new tech doesnt mean better
A flat front is in no way aerodynamic….not even a little bit…..the reason European trucks are shorter is the road network….much older and tighter turn radius…..
European 4 point cab suspension gives SO MUCH more comfort!
European Truck are designed around EU regulations on length, width, height, turning circles and maximum weights allowed on cross border operations. This pretty much means needing to use a cabover design as a conventional design would mean only being able to pull a far shorter trailer to stay within the legal limits.
Yes. Not to mention this in the video is showing a total lack of understanding…
But even before EU regulations the cab over design was most common for heavy trucks. From the late 60s onwards it was mainly cabover designs from the major European truck producers, and even more-so throughout the 70s. There might have been some national regulations, but I’m not sure if there were any international regulations at the time.
Cabover would be a nice option for locals jobs specially in big crowded cities.
Now that makes sense
The turning radius of a 6×2 with liftaxle like the Scania on the thumbnail is quite something.
The cab overs are the only practical option in the UK due to very restricted road space and small loading areas you need to use every inch of available space at times, I currently drive the scania it's an excellent truck nice interior with good engine and gearbox but for some reason my current employer has speced the 460 hp for our fleet which is a bit underpowered especially as we are pulling double deck trailers weighing regularly close to 44 tons at times especially crossing the pennine hills you can be down to 30 on the motorway with the engine giving its all probably should have had 550 hp the reasoning was the fuel economy of the 450 are better, the only issues with all trucks in the UK and EU are the short wheelbase so you can have a bumpy ride especially with the lift axle up
For Americans, 44 metric tons (which is almost the same as UK Imperial tons) are around 10% heavier than than American tons. So that 44 metric ton load is 48.5 US tons, or 97,000 pounds.
A good place to compare them for things such as fuel consumption is here in Australia since we run both. I quite often see Merc or Scania Cabovers pulling triples, and then just down the road there will be a Mack or Freightliner pulling something similar. Then there are Kenworths, known through most of the world for "conventional" design, but we have the K220....
Y entonces, cual dices q son mejores para vos?
@@favio5757 I like both, but think conventional looks the best.
But European are better.
@@1978sjt You’re 100% correct. Trucking in Australia proves to the world that both types have their pros and cons and most importantly, that they can be used to complement each other.
@@globetrotter7778 yeah, conventionals - for long haul, cabovers - for cities
European roads can be very narrow, since many places were built centuries ago. Cabovers have better visibility and turn radius.
Yea Imagine driving a American truck in like the UK you would totally be doomed
Given that the EU nations regulate total vehicle length (not trailer length) only COE-designs are commercially viable.
In Brazil, the most common are trucks from 440 to 540 HP, maximum capacity 74T, automatic transmission. Volvo, Scania, DAF, Mercedes Bens, Iveco, speed limit 80km/h, limit of 9 axles, however we have trucks of up to 800 hp, but in special loads.
The reason why Scania and Volvo have so powerful engines is most likely a lot because of the competition between these "big swedes". Volvo's biggest engine was 12 liter for many years and Scania's biggest was the 14 liter V8 also for many years. Then Volvo introduced the 16.1 liter engine and of course Scania had to make a bigger 16.4 liter engine with a little more power. The "horsepower war" has always been there. When Scania had 730hp Volvo made a 750 hp version. Of course Scania had to make an even more powerful engine with 770hp.
Scania is called "The king of the road" so naturally they need to have the strongest engines. Interesting to see if this "war" stops with these engines.
Don't forget the MAN and Mercedes, they have very strong engines too.
The real king is Iveco Turbostar with his 17l engine 😎
There have been 1000hp scandia trucks that have been made but not mass produced.
@@sandasturner9529 Scania makes a marine version of th 16 litre V8 engine with 1200hp!
@@ontheroadagain4773 that is wicked
A great place to compare cab overs with conventional trucks is Australia. The wheelbase of American trucks here is way shorter than in the US. Consequently you get quite a few American brand trucks in cab over configuration. But conventional American trucks in Australia do not have the space advantage like the US because of shorter wheelbase requirements. Conventional US trucks look very narrow and short compared to a Euro or US badged cab over. That said conventional US trucks are still very popular with owner operators here, which may or not have something to do with image.
1:20 i would say that the american trucks are probobly slightly more stream lined than Europa. The diffrance is not huge, but i would say the US trucks is probably taking that win
5:45 Just because there is a distance there don´t imply its a crumple zone. Even in European trucks the drivers sit quite a bit back
6:30 Just becasue a system is simpler, don´t imply it use less maintenance, that is not how reality works. For instance, the euro-trailing axle for sure use less wheel wear than the US double twin axles.
One would think that out of the looks.. however, you are dead wrong.
If you don't believe me, then do your research.
If you put a cabover and a hoodie truck in a wind tunnel. The Cabover have much less wind turbulence as the wind hit the truck and goes over and around the cab. Its called drag. And US hoodie truck has more drag.
As a European car guy I like trucks that remind me of normal passenger cars that I see on the roads in EU. So I would prefer a Volvo, Mercedes or as a non-premium brand Renault, or from my own country a Daf, who used to build cars once too. Any conventional nosed truck stands out here on the road. It is always a pleasure to see one occasionally.
Better? Just see them as different. Both beautiful, Both their pros and cons
The only con for the European one is the living space, but many drivers like myself(in UK anyway) are doing 8-12 hours shifts and we go home and the end of the day. With that in account, there is no con lol
The two continent's truck usage and requirements are so different that its hard to make a valid comparison. COE and short wheelbase is essential in Europe due to our tight city streets and turns, deliveries are often made by semi-truck straight to a city center store rather than downtown distribution centers. European trucks are generally company owned and driven by full time salary drivers, so they don't need the big sleeper cabs that are common on American driver owned trucks which often are secondary homes for their drivers who drive long distances over many days away from home. Many European countries have steep mountain grades and passes which require powerful engines and manoueverability on tight switchbacks and curves, the Alps and Pyrenees mountain ranges surprise many US drivers first time. So its basically down to different trucks for different uses.
@Truck Tropia, I have to correct you on the crash comparisons that you made, European trucks have a high level of crash safety, and the cab is designed to withstand huge G forces that are present in RTAs (road traffic accidents), the cabs don't collapse so readily and also the cab is designed to separate from the chassis in the event of an accident thus offering the driver a significant amount of protection, please do your research before producing any more comparison videos against American and European trucks, so far all the comparison videos you have produced show bias towards American trucks, how about you do a video about a comparison of braking systems in American and European trucks, and if you do your research properly I know who will come out on top in that video.
Imagine you crash in an euro truck against another one head on! Face to face. It sounds bad.
@@poormangaming2970 look some Scania crush tests: the cabs will partially shear of of their suspensions and thus mitigate g forces for the drivers. Both cabs and frames are rigid with a little bit of crumple zones in front and the main safety mechanism being the way the cab is sheared from its suspension. Basically: there is no way you can absorb the energy of a 40t truck, but for
@@poormangaming2970 That crash test shown was more lethal in american truck. Hood of the truck came inside the cabinet, you don't want that.
@@jauho7483Also, in case of a crash with an American semi, the cabin acts sort of like a catapult, because of its suspension.
That reminds me of the Studénka train crash from 2015 when a high speed train hit a Polish semi truck on a railroad crossing at 160 km/h and, because the cabin immediately shreded off the suspension on impact, the truck driver survived with minor injuries. If the cabin wouldve stayed on the truck base, he wouldve likely died or at least wouldve been severely injured.
We have to be honoust here on both sides, What we call international transport in Europe is a drive from the Netherlands to Spain well under 2000km one way. That wont get you far in the US.
That said, if we want to compare US to European trucks we need to compare them to Scania XXL cabs, in the US the truck is more then just going from A to B for a week and then be back home for the weekend, it is the truckers house.
And i think despite the extra costs, every American trucker wants a Scania XXL V8 to make their life 300% better
Scania did sell conventional models in the US. But that ended a long time ago.
As an American trucker, I think they're all pretty cool. I want to get my hands on kne of those cabover and try for myself one day. I hear theh ridemic better, and have a higher build quality. The trucks we have here rattle around and lurch and jerk and whatnot over slight bumps. A lot of Volvo VNL's doors don't even shut all of the way. I see images of the FH's and I'm immediately jealous. That said,I couldn't imagine being OTR with such a lack of space. Every truck I drove OTR was basically a miniature house on wheels. I had space to cook, game, exercise, use the bathroom if it was necessary, and whatever else I had to do.
Not a truck driver - merely average European that had chance to drive about 1-2 Km "shotgun" in one of those when friend trucker was in the hood for official business and situation (including boss which is also truck owner being OK) allowed for him to pick up our old furniture and drive it basically across Europe.
No hinge trailer of 18 meters (hinge only on connection of trailer and truck) was mostly OK coming near by our Amsterdam suburbia head on - well except I could completely see into first floor of all the neighbors (ground floor is usually 2.5-2.7 meters, with ~1 meter of wall before windows start - driver/passenger heads seemed to be 4 meters above street).
And to do reverse 180 turn - well luckily some neighbors in nearby side street were home, so I could politely ask them if they could move their car (technically on their land in front of their house).
Why not take a look at the DAF XG+ cabin. Despite being a cabover, the space and room available is impressive. And with Paccar engines, designed for european standards with upto 530 HP.....state of the art...
I'm not a truckdriver, but i heard those Scania trucks (with the V8) and Mercedes are really nice. I think Mercedes will have very light steering, but i am just basing that of off those vans you can drive with a normal car license.
This video is nonsense, the EU trucks are better at any single point, and about cabin with great interior space as you like, please check as example the Volvo Expedite 120" High Roof Bolt Sleeper, or the bigger one the 156" Mega Sleeper Volvo VNL64T300 D13, or the VOLVO VNL, they will put at shame any US truck cabin!!!!
Worth remembering that MPG is different in USA because you guys can't get with the times and think a gallon is 3.8 litres, when for the rest of us its 4.5 litres per gallon, so comparing the numbers requires this knowledge before hand
Well... For the rest of the worl, a gallon does not exist. We use the system that was used to calculate the moon landings. And yes, it was done in metric ;)
I presume the fuel economy comparisons are on a like for like basis, but then again one cannot presume anything when it comes to TH-cam videos.
For example, the video claims greater availability of spare parts for US trucks, but is that in the US or in Europe?
@koyaanisqatsi316 !!!!!!!!! And the pope isnt a catholic
I love both trucks European American
I just bought Kenworth W900
565 horse 2050 torc
18 speed manual
342 gear
😎👍💪🔨⬇️
Manual en el año 2023 ?😂😂😂
He's back! 😀
really American and European trucks share powertrain. Volvo engines are used by Mack and Renault. Detroit diesel and Mercedes engines are really the same engines. Paccar MX is used in Europe on DAF trucks. ZF, Paccar, Mercedes, Eaton and Allison transmissions are used on US and EU trucks.
Even if they are made by the same manufacturer, US and EU engines are not the same. And in EU Volvo makes their own transmissions
K100, I like the visibility of the cab over designs.
I have a 99 FLD with a 12.7 Series 60. All needed is ; diesel, oil, filters and tires here and there. I love to see my long hood “guiding” me into the sunrise. I wouldn’t drive in Europe. Everything is too small and crowded, and, over regulated. (BTW, I was born there).
I prefer the style of trucks like the W900 and their dash. Probably where I am pushing 50 and am used to them looks.
Don’t forget about the Detroit DD16
In the Philippines Japanese trucks, American trucks, & Chinese trucks are dominate here in my home and as a truckers driver from helper to driver american truck are much better when it comes to size, performamce, and comfort based on my experience.
Some European manufacturers do make long bonnet conventional trucks like the Scania T cab. I like them both, the European trucks are sleek and modern but I also love the boxy rugged look of the US trucks 👍
True, Euro trucks are only allowed to go 80 kmt most places, but it is hard not to floor it and go 90 most places :P
@Strawby88, I hate to burst your bubble but that information is incorrect, in Europe and the UK trucks the maximum limit that the limiter can be set is 56mph(90kph), a lot of companies choose to have the limiter set at 50mph(80kph) to save on fuel.
@@davidjames990 that's not what I meant mate, 80 kmh is the official speed limit on the road for trucks, White the trucks themselves are limited to 90 kmh
@Strawby88, check this link out it will tell you otherwise: - www.google.com/search?q=what+is+the+speed+limit+for+trucks+in+europe&oq=&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCQgAECMYJxjqAjIJCAAQIxgnGOoCMgkIARAjGCcY6gIyCQgCECMYJxjqAjIJCAMQIxgnGOoCMgkIBBAjGCcY6gIyCQgFECMYJxjqAjIJCAYQIxgnGOoCMgkIBxAjGCcY
@@davidjames990the correct unit is km/h each speedometer shows km/h, Kmt is the comunist party in China.
Why choose I'm Canadian so I prefer the American style but I like both
I am American but I have driven in both Europe and North America. I agree 100% about what you covered in your videos; that is American trucks were designed for North America and the European trucks for Europe. Giving my honest opinion I like trucking in North America better than Europe. Don't get me wrong, I did like going from country to country in Europe and Italy was my favorite to go to. I liked entering the next European country and enjoyed the culture change. For example, traveling from Germany and going into France and on to Spain or England.
What makes trucking better here in the United States is that our highway system is designed for constant travel and American trucks are much more habitable than the European counterparts are. I am on the road for six weeks at a time sometimes and even the best Scania, DAF, Renault or Iveco just wound not cut it here in the United States!!
Last but not least the thing that I detested the most in the EU countries was Sunday/Holiday driving restrictions for trucks!! I hated the fact that often times I would be stuck away from home because of these ludicrous restrictions!! I hated also starting up at 10:00 PM and driving all night and not be able to sleep during the day especially in the summer!! It is alot better here in North America to keep my biorhythm here in North America that Europe. True, not all of the EU countries have driving restrictions on big trucks but all the Central European countries have them. The UK, Ireland, the Scandinavian countries and Finland, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Holland do allow Sunday driving for trucks.
There are Sunday restrictions but normally are local restrictions. Refers for example no restrictions in any country.
As a European, i prefer the American version, however EU brands also produce the American model ''torpedo nose'' as we call it. Only due to law (afcourse, it HAS to be the government again) we have limits in length for trucks, so the short cab is always the choice because companies want max cargospace.
Imagine a conventional truck with cab over style engineering.
Would make the ride more comfortable in US trucks
Back in the 60s and 70s they tried cab overs but they didn't catch on.
The Volvo trucks are always in the shop because of their infamous electrical issues, Peterbilt doesn’t have that problem.
Peterbuilt is just an oversized Model T and about as advanced😂
American Volvos perhaps European Volvos seems to be more reliable
Older American trucks and older European trucks one isnt better than the other they are meant for their own landscape i want a 9900I International
That's the spirit. _Express_ yourself without putting others down and/or discrediting other's opinions.
I wouldn't really call a "square", sleek or streamlined, but I do like the looks of European trucks. l also love the nostalgic looks of the classic American cabovers of Peterbilt, Freightliner, International, and others. One of my favorite looks is the customized versions of classic American model cabovers with extended frames. I wouldn't mind seeing someone waist their money stretching a European model. It would probably look pretty cool and be a totally useless truck in Europe. I like European trucks, but boxes aren't incredibly curvy or streamlined, well, in my opinion anyway. One thing to remember, is when you drive a cabover, and you are in an accident, you will definitely be the first person on the scene. So, buckle those belts... GOOD!
“Renolt” 😂
Small detail eu trucks are electronicly limited to 56mph so slightly more than 50 mph
Yes but only allowed by law to drive 80km/h
@@TruckTropia well not everywhere is europe, i live in europe and have a licence to drive a truck and i am legaly allowed to drive 56 on the highway
@@TruckTropiano true in the UK. Speed limit for a truck is 60mph even though we’re limited to 56mph
@@TruckTropia, wrong, they are set at 56mph because that is the legal speed limit, companies tend to have them set at 50pmh to save on fuel, please do your research before making comments, and I have mentioned this to you in your previous videos you are bias towards American trucks.
@@TruckTropia, there are different speed limits for different types of roads, the maximum speed limit throughout Europe is 56 mph(90kph), this is some information I took from a Google search: - In Germany and other European Union countries, trucks with a gross vehicle weight rating of 3.5 tonnes (7,700 pounds) or more must have a governor that limits their speed to 90 kph (54 miles per hour). Nov 15, 2005
Would be interesting to see wind tunnel tests done on the aerodynamics. Have a gut feeling there is little difference and as the cab over cuts through the air in one swath the conventional you have the rad then the windshield followed by the trailer. Conventionals often have a roof fairing. Might be easier to make the front of a cab over more aerodynamic than a vehicle that has 3 points.
This is what i get.
American truck: comfort for long hauling.
European truck: MO' POWER & TORQUE, BABY! 💪💪💪
🤣🤣
Japanese truck: More practical, reliability, durability & longevity.
Japanese truck engines are the most durable of all and cheapest to maintain.
@@montesa35 Now that you mention it, i never seen a Jap truck here in EU!
As an American, I'll say that European trucks are very interesting since it's the unknown. However, I'll always choose American trucks. I don't like all of the new technology in a truck anyway, so Euro trucks don't appeal to me. They remind me of oversized four-wheelers. American trucks are just overall better trucks, but even then, I'm not into all American trucks, either, especially the newer aero trucks, which also reminds me of an oversized four-wheelers, with all the same modern technology as the Euro trucks. I like classic trucks with a long straight hood on the front. I don't need all of the sensors, etc., that come with the newer models. It makes the job very annoying. I'd rather control my own truck vs. allowing a computer to control my truck. I also would prefer a dash full of gauges and switches vs. a dash with screens and switches. Although Europe may have stronger stock motors, it doesn't mean that an American truck can't be tuned to exceed 750 HP and above! I've driven trucks at 850 HP here in America, so power is not a big deal, and the heaviest load unless you are an oversized load is 80k, and even at 100k, which I've pulled with a 550 HP motor, these American motors can still pull with no problem. I also love a Cat motor, which is the best motor you can have in an American truck. A cabover doesn't seem fun to drive at all to me bcuz it looks so easy to maneuver. I don't look for a truck to maneuver like a four-wheeler, I look for it to maneuver like a truck. Long hood trucks give you a challenge, especially in big cities and tight areas, but can get into the same places that an aero truck and a cabover can get into. It may be a little more work, but it will definitely get on. Long hood trucks really teach a driver how to really drive and maneuver a big truck. Also, Long hoods give a feeling that no other truck can give. It gives you a boss feeling, especially bcuz average drivers are afraid of that style of truck. It sets the men apart from the boys! Cabovers and aero trucks don't give that feeling. The old classic cabover and aero trucks might still provide that feeling, but definitely not the modern cabovers and aero trucks that we have in America. Most guys who drive long hoods aren't concerned with maneuverability, weight dispersment, aero dynamics, or fuel consumption. These types of guys just love classic trucks, and we make it work. If there is a will, there is a way. I've done things with long hood trucks that you wouldn't even think it could do, but with patience and hard work, you can make it do what it can't do! Only a certain type of man or woman chooses to drive a long hood. Normally, the few, the set-apart, and the proud, lol! IJS! I have to give it to Scania, though! Those are some interesting Euro trucks! I won't even pretend like Euro trucks aren't engineered 10 times better than our American trucks, though. However, I still choose the good ole classic American long hood, lol!
the only bad thing about american large cabs are that there is less space for the cargo
In Europe both the Truck and Semi Trailer are measured together which was the case in North America but by the 1980s only the Semi Trailer Length has been Restricted but not the Power Unit, with a lot of the Power Units being stretched to ridiculous lengths beyond belief.
I’ve driven both European and North American Trucks (Semi and Rigid): European Trucks are Safer both Structurally, in Handling, Durability and ABS Coordinated between Power Units and Full or Semi Trailers. The Swedish Crash Test separates the Safest Trucks from those Ineligible to be Sold in Sweden.
One thing I'm considering is docking (I hope it's the proper term in english). As a European, we have lots of unconventional and "technical" docking and a long american trucks wouldn't even be able to do it. I remember seeing videos, notably one in amsterdam where the american drivers where comenting on how good the driver is while european drivers where responding that no, that's a pretty normal docking. I'm not at all saying that american drivers are bad, but their truck don't allow them to do what we can do here in eaurope, but well, they don't need it so the video is ultimately right, each type of truck is adapted to it's environment.
Bharat switched to Cabovers a long while ago probably in the late 1960s, probably because of the European influence through Leyland. Never seen a Leyland with a long nose in Bharat, there were a few Benz trucks but once TAT took over completely they were just Cabovers. This presentation ended like the eighteenth chapter of the Bhagavad Gita where the Lord Sri Krishna tells his protégé Arjuna. I have given you all the necessary knowledge, you now decide and do what is right.
Can you make a video on why trucks have lift axles
Already made 👍 comming soon
Traction, tire wear and fuel consumption
As a European, I prefer US trucks in terms of exterior and EU trucks (specially Scania) when it comes to interior. 😅
But too bad that scania doesn't exist in NA and that Volvo doesn't offer the European FH cabover as wn alternative option, coz I heard that driving to NYC or Chicago is pain in the ass with an traditional American semi. So a flat nosed FH 500 with its dual clutch transmission and the short wheelbase would be the perfect fit for this kind of environment and would save the driver a lot of nerves 😂
Then you can use SCANIA T-series, a EU truck with conventional cab)
It is strange to me that as an example a Detroit diesel engine only gives 400-500 HP from 14,8 liters cylinder volume. Strange because cars with 3 liters engines normally gives 150- 300 HP which if you transfer it to almost 15 liters would give 750- 1500 HP.
Hp is kind of irrelevant with trucks, the important figure for pulling power is torque, a 3.0 car might make 2-300 lb/ft but a truck will make 2000+
European Trucks are heavily regulated on their size for smaller roads. We call them 40 footers for a reason.
no. Noone calls them 40 of some dudes sockless feet , where sizes may warry in case he has cut his nails.
Next we want to see this two vs Chinesium Trucks and Wakanda Trucks, you know, with mini nuclear engines
drving the usa trucks is much harder. it would be nice to drive a cab over view see more of the road and nature i feel. however the cab overs feel to small for long haul. the usa trucks u can chill and relax. its like a mini apartment in there.
The best truck still is scania. Even Germans couldn't ruin it... Yet. 😂 scania for life.
Well Scania is german property now, Volkswagen ownes it.
@@Diego-tm3dj I know. World definitely going to hell from now 🤣
@@starpergaming2688and why??
@@starpergaming2688 Volkswagen is a pretty ok company, only to bad they also make those EV bullshit.
@@MarshallMathersthe7th why not? Maybe it's ok. But still vw broke too much
Different needs and use cases.
I pondered it but in america, it won't work due to extremely low clearance on some bridges and terrible infrastructure that chews up even the sturdiest rigs.
For me it comes down to which brand of truck I trust the most if I had one. I do agree with @Johann2005 the trucks are meant for their own landscape.
Nice 👌
The US truck seems to have far less space than i would've imagined.. I'm sure that can be packaged more efficiently...
Speed limit in Europe is often 90 km/hour. In Germany more.
It applies to cars, for vehicles intended for the transport of goods, with a total weight at full load exceeding 12 t, the maximum speed is 80 km/h.
@@NicolaFarinazzo Not everywhere, for example in France the speed limit is 90 km/h for trucks.
European trucks are designed better more powerful V8S also longer lasting vs 6 in america yet they are shorter one axle in the back three on the trailer so they're more maneuverable in tight city streets intersection turning as Europe is more congested less open roads more tight city street turning besidesall the weight is in the trailer anyway. European technology always ahead.
The advantage of a straight 6 engine is that it is inherently very balanced, and is more reliable, and easier and less expensive to maintain.
PACCAR is NOT a manufacturer of engines or trucks. The so-called PACCAR engines MX-11 and MX-13 are developed and produced by DAF Trucks at Brainport Eindhoven the Netherlands. The engine is metric till the very last bold. No more no less. The so-called Paccar engine MX-15 (non-metric!!) is developed and produced by Cummins.
PACCAR is the proud mother of three great truck brands: DAF, Kenworth and Peterbilt.
For me the main difference is the flexibility.Try going into Europe's Industrial estates or doing deliveries with that extra length.Also the video is not correct about the speed limit which is 90kph or 56mph Universally in Europe.
American trucks were designed for longer trips than ours in Europe.
More power and they're tougher.
In Europe the best is Volvo.
The worst truck is Mercedes.
Costs too much,unreliable and frail like glass,easily the worst truck Europe has.
That story of german car is perfection is the biggest myth in the car history.
I have yet to see a truck driver in Europe talking badly about american trucks,they love them.
American trucks are not the most powerful, most of their stock engine reach the maximum of 600-650hp whike europeans trucks around 750-770hp . US older engines that include CATs and Cummins are just easier to tune so europeans trucks are more powerful. About Mercedes? Yeah I heard that the new semi trucks suck in terms of reliability but not in quality. Talking about cars? German cars are the most advanced in the world and as for a lot of cars not all are reliable, german with italian engineering can't be beaten. The only thing that american trucks have more than europeans are probably the look nothing else but is a matter of opinion, I love Scania, Volvo, Mercedes and Kenworth Trucks
@@teo10s Truck drivers from here talked about old International or Mack trucks they drove before in South America,not one of them had anything bad to say about them,monsters according to them.
They had more technology and advancements at that time than european trucks.
What they have now should be even better.
In Europe they say Volvo beats all the others and Sweden has the best trucks.
There is something different in the american design,more aggressive and truck drivers mostly like toughness in trucks than anything else.
Mercedes here is not good,they all say it breaks easily and that is not quality,this brand is overrated for years,old cars had big engines and weak power and new ones are expensive and unrealiable.
Volvo,MAN and DAF might compete there with american trucks and there is preference to put into account but not Mercedes,it has no chance.
@@teo10s German cars are the most advanced? Reliable? They cost much more in all aspects (purchase, maintenance, repair).
Compare that to Japanese cars ... although they have become very pricey over last decades they are cheap in maintenance and very reliable.
I know truck mechanics who spent time in the States and they said they’re out of date and underpowered.
And lots of European drivers spend weeks on the road due to cabotage. It’s a myth that they’re not doing long trips.
Honestly i dont like the look of cabovers but theres really no "better" truck, cuz for america we need big cabs for longhaul unlike european where its kinda short distance like one state to another which could be done in 7-12 hrs depending on traffic and size of the state.. and america trucks are more comfortable for the long ride where ive heard European bounces too much, but european is better fitted for its place for being shorter and nimble to turn in theyre roads
Well that’s just plain ignorance. European drivers are frequently on the road for weeks at a time.
For example, a driver from Ireland could take a ferry to France (15 hrs), drive to Naples (2-3 days driving), drop a load, drive to Turin (1 day) to pick up another load, drive it to Vienna, drop it and pick up another load, drive it to Rotterdam (1-2 days), drive to Prague (1 day), back to Roscoff (2 days) and back on the ferry home.
It’s called cabotage and lots of European drivers live on the road most of the time.
@@Dreyno oh I didn't know that, but I know American trucks have more stuff in the cab for comfort most the time idk
@@FillioxyVlogs Europe has a max length for the vehicle and there’s only so much you can cram in. But there lots of truck stops with showers, diners etc. so most drivers will try and stop at one of them rather than in the middle of nowhere.
@@Dreyno ahh ok nice, thxx for the info :)
@@FillioxyVlogs EU trucks have also, micro, fridge, lots of storage boxes, good bed, what else you need? WC? why? you can jump out of truck to piss or poop on gas station, also EU trucks have air suspension at least on axles which able em to change height and also make driving much more comfortable, also cab suspension at least springs, but more often air suspension now which also give loots of comfort, it looks wigly outside but inside it is totally different story, also EU cabs have MUCH BETTER sound isolation
I love all trucks.
It's very simple:
Future vs Ancient Technology.
Imagine a tall blonde supermodel vs Shaniqua Latoya eating KFC
I do not how you get sleek and aerodynamic out of a COE design. They basically have the shape of a moving wall.
Rounded corners and deflectors. That is how some airliners that seemed blunt (747, A380, etc.) became more aerodynamic than they look.
Keeping surface smooth is another factor. Notice some newer European trucks cover the side steps with the doors (longer underhang).
Caterpillar started making on-highway diesel engines again recently
No not for trucks 👎
@@TruckTropia ok then
The European trucks don’t prioritise ease of accessibility, because the truck isn’t meant to break down
Design? Seriously? You focus on looks rather than turn radius, ease of parking/manouvering, fuel consumption and so on, but looks?
Yes.
I must say, European trucks are better.
Ofc you do, your Norwegian 😂
nooo bcz you don't have wide big roads that's you think European trucks better 😂😅
I must say its his opinion and I also think euro trucks are better cuz they got a pretty amazing look they are also a lot safer since they don't have a nose so it increases your line of sight inside the truck
The European are more stronger!
Way more torque and hp, brake system is better on Europeans!
Definitely not
European trucks are nice but us American truck drivers like simplicity, cost efficiency, space, reliance, and safety. I mean the pinnacle of truck drivers to us are those who have driven one million miles or more, with no incidents ,and drives a manual, square body with no rust and is lit up like a Christmas tree. Plus our roads are bigger and fit for conventional. I imagine the distances driven in America are much longer which is why our trucks have so much space... I think. I can't speak for Europe.
Safety... Shows crash test on video with hood going in cab, 100% safe. US truck on crash - you get 2 drivers for free now. EU trucks very safe and actually have lots of space inside, i can stay full height with my 187 cm inside our Volvo FM truck, and FH is even bigger
Volvo has the strongest engine now, the D-17 with 780hp.
Daf uses paccar engines
Uk speed limit for trucks is 56mph but been overtaken at 60mph by a truck many times
The UK speed limits for HGVs is 60mph on motorways and dual carriageways and 50mph on single carriageway roads.Most trucks will be restricted to 56mph as this is seen as the most fuel efficient speed whilst still allowing the driver to complete their work.
I don't know much about Semi-Trucks. Yet, European trucks are way more practical for their home market and they suit well for ferry travelling.
But US trucks look "cooler". There's a reason Coca Cola uses US trucks in Germany for their Christmas promotion.
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When did the cube become "sleek" and "aerodynamic"?🤣🤣🤣
Le nouveau volvo 17 litres de cylindrée 780hp il explose tout
This is why ‘U.S. and European semi-trucks are so different’ and ‘which is the best?’! 🚚 🚛 🇺🇸 🌍
90km/h is the Speedlimit in the EU
90Km/h is the maximum legal setting for a commercial vehicle speed limiter, different countries have different speed limits for heavy commercial vehicles, such as 80Km/h in Germany.
...but if you drive only 80km/h max on a german Autobahn, all the other trucks honk at you and look like they would beat you up once you stop. @@medler2110
80,000lbs? That's just 25 southern and eastern states only that allows the truck to have a maximum load weight of 80,000 lbs The weight for most American trucks in 25 states the West is 100,000-193,800 lbs
*the one and only reason in europe is the size and length of US trucks - they don´t fit*
it´s that easy
Please say "most powerful" instead of "strongest". Strongest means something else to someone with English as a first language.
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Aerodynamics....
The American trucks are more aerodynamic, there is little chance a brick-nose like the CoE trucks can have aerodynamics as clean as having the engine nacelle out front to break the wind....if, a CoE truck is more aerodynamic, then the conventional truck they are testing against has been poorly designed. With both of them having the same level and skill of design, it is improbable to match the conventional....
Hard to disagree with that.
@montecorbit8280, if that is the case then explain why European trucks return a better mpg than their USA counterparts, bearing in mind that US trucks run faster at 80,000lbs(36 metric tonnes) compared to Europe and the UK that run at 56mph(90kph) at 40 metric tonnes to 50 metrics tonnes depending on the country and having larger engines that US built trucks, in the UK they have a maximum trailer height 16ft these trailers are what they call double deckers because they can carry 52 standard pallets, the roads in the US tend to be relatively straight whereas in Europe and the UK the only straight roads are the motorways(highways) so your theory is debunked.
Modern american trucks are. But european trucks is actually consideraly more streamlined than they look.
The thing is, European trucks are usually just alowed to drive 80, while american trucks typically can drive 110-120km/h. So the european trucks don´t benefit that much from streamline. The air resistance is lower regardless.
A other diffrance is that european trucks allow for 8 or 9 bar pressure while american trucks allow for 6 or 7 bar pressure. This reduce the roiling resistance of European trucks
@@matsv201, another reason that European trucks are so fuel efficient is that the trailer is closely coupled, the gap between the rear of the cab and the front of the trailer is as minimal as possible so that no dirty air can get between the unit and trailer, but because the Americans think that everything needs to be big, they design trucks so poorly.
For example, for some reason, America has trailers 57 ft long on a sliding axle setup, why? There is no need for it whatsoever, a triaxle setup with a deeper kingpin would immediately solve that.
American trucks usually run at a maximum of 36 metric tonnes(80,000 lbs) on five axles, which causes axle weight issues, yet in the UK the majority of trucks run on 6 axles at 44 metric tonnes(96,800 lbs) with a 45 ft trailer with no axle weight issues also the majority of trucks are fitted with a sliding fifth wheel in case there are any axle weight issues which normally occur on the steering axle.
Im sorry but europe does not have a General 50 mph speed Limit. If you consider the whole Continent the the average on the Highway is about 150kph
yes for cars.. this is for trucks.. where the limit is 50 mph in all of EU and most of Europe
Oh ok yes. I stand corrected. I thought you ment a General speed Limit. Regarding Trucks you are absolutly right. I apologise
Semi be getting 12 mpg my van gets 13 and i weight a quarter of the weight dam
Oh my god
Indonesia love euro truck
Is the video made yet or not
American trucks are definitely better, imho.
True but the fact that they are only inline 6's now instead of V8's kinda piss me off. Even with modern pickup trucks they are only inline 6's unless you get the Dually Work Trucks that are only V8's. Also because of the inline 6 you don't get as much torque that you would prefer because everything is about fuel economy now. Look at the New Corvette for example. It's no longer a 700+ hp V8. It's now a 450hp mid engine Inline 6 now.
Make a video Tata trucks, 🥰🥰
America trucks=optimus prime 😂❤
How can you say european trucks will use mire fuel on us roads and speeds! Lol!! They are very efficient
But it's flat face is not very aerodinamic...that's why
@@poormangaming2970 Wrong! Its actually quite very aerodynamic, there are all measures put in place fir them to be as good as possible while also maximizing their cargo capacity and significantly much better acces to small roads
Lets be real here, if you want a modern, comfortable, powerful, feature rich truck which is easy to drive and never more than 30 mins from the nearest mechanic then you're going for an EU truck. If you want to pretend you have a superior experience because of patriotism and a toilet then the American option will be great for you
lol=) We have Volvo FM16 in our company outside of regular maintenance it never breaks, so it visit service for like twice a year and that's it, EU trucks can run millions of kilometers without breakdowns and that's it
Europe trucks👏👏👏
The maximum speed for trucks in many european countries is 90 km/h (55 miles per hour)....
No its 80 they just drive 90 😅
@@TruckTropia Wrong, maximum speed alowed for trucks is 90, its just truck trains that are limited to 80
@@matsv201 Wrong many countries in Europe, such as Germany, Austria, Poland, the Max speed is 80km/h, other, such as France, Spain its 90km/h, the UK its 60mph, but speed limiters still legally have to be set to max of 90km/h 56mph.
i've drive volvo fm12 for over 10 years and Volvo is the best.
American Truck
Renault is pronouced renoo not renalt. We brits pronouced it like that till the french took the piss in adverts in the 80s.
Im a truck driver and drove mostly in europe but have moved to the usa since 2018. I always believed european automobile technology was way advanced to USA tech and it is but that doesnt mean its better. American trucks last a really long time and the parts/repair is so much cheaper here. I have come to realize that new tech doesnt mean better
It is not true, scania have not the strongest engine. Volvo have a engine with 780 hp!
Driving hours are different. A European driver would spend a lot less time in his truck compared to a long haul American driver.
America is a massive country. That's why our trucks are like mini apartments.
A flat front is in no way aerodynamic….not even a little bit…..the reason European trucks are shorter is the road network….much older and tighter turn radius…..