An engineer from Paccar said that 70% of the trucks in the world are European, only 16% are American, that is to say for every 1000 trucks, 700 are European and only 160 are American and that with this difference in trucks, the European truck had fewer deaths and was the safest truck in the event of an accident by far. Appearances can be deceiving. I am from Mexico, I have driven American trucks all my life, I would never go back to an American truck even if I were drunk. Now I am in a Scania and it is infinitely better. I prefer to have a little less space if in exchange my life is safer and my back no longer hurts. With the American truck you would end the day exhausted, with the European you end up tired. That is the huge difference.
Good insight, looks like for some americans their trucks are not uncomfy enough as they lower and push back their seat to look " cool " by putting their anatomy in the most bizarre positions.
Very well said. There are totally different pushes behind American design and builds. I hate to say it. But money and no common sense due to being money and power hungry drives a lot of things in america.im American and it's so obvious when you experience other brands and what other countries have to offer.
Assuming your death claim is accurate, it probably has more to do with higher speeds, longer trips and less regulation in the US than just the trucks themselves.
Not all European trucks have motortunnels, most European trucks have a flat cabin floor and also a jake brake . They even have a refrigerator and a microwave oven. European trucks have even automatic cruise control that keeps a save distance to the vehicles in front of it and emergency brake systems.
I noticed one thing you didn't mention. Trucks are not allowed in the outside lane on a three or more lane highway in Europe, also, a lot of trailers in Europe can be steered.
True § In addition, several trailors have an automatic suspension device that raises the first axle of the trailer when running with a limited load... This allows a reduced degradation of the tires and improves fuel efficiency.
Driving from Mörby towards Täby outside Stockholm Sweden the road has 3 lanes, but right one is for busses, left one is not allowed for me in a heavy truck, so pretty much a highway with 1 lane, and it sucks since cars tends to drive 70 kph with speed limit being 80 kph :)
@@BerraLJ I like how Helsinki does it. Mannerheimintie has 2 lanes, 1 for cars and 1 for buses, but bus lane is permitted for trucks and vans too outside rush hour. I believe Ring III has a section where you have 3 lanes, 1 for buses, but outside rush hour any vehicle is allowed there.
We have both in Australia European trucks outperform American in every application Scania and Volvo just make the American trucks look stupid and the European 16ltr V8 Scania
@dawnbaswell1853 haha American trucks are only better at breaking down and the European trucks might look stupid at the cost of excalance we will still need something for the drag queen truck drivers so that's the reason for American trucks take a chill pill princess
Power matters too. To get the full picture you want torque vs rpm curve and power vs rpm curve, rather than just the peak figures. There's also throttle response (how quickly the engine speeds up), which complicates things.
Here there are many things to improve and clarify, to begin with, no European truck is a cousin, they are all the big brothers of the American models, the American brands are the low cost versions. The development of a single European truck is greater than that of all the American brands put together. In Paccar alone, 70% of the budget goes to DAF, which develops everything within the group. The detroit DD engines are the low end of the OM engines of mercedes. Next the European trucks have engine brake, exhaust brake and retarder, achieving a retention of almost 2000hp on some models. The torques are also much higher, the D13K (2065lb-ft) of Volvo exclusive of the European models can give more torque than the Cummins X15 of 605hp, they are infinitely more comfortable to drive and are infinitely safer, in general they make the American truck look like junk, they are 15/20 years ahead.
@@4_SJR Bro, I can confidently say that American trucks died with the Cat engine in 2010. You can see this from the Cat's demise in the on-highway engine market. Before this we had the 625 hp twin-turbo CAT C15, And the CAT C16 15.8 liter 625 horsepower, they are nicknamed the King of the Hill. It also features one of the rarest engines on the American truck market it's 18.1 liters CAT C18 ACRET 800hp 2,917-lb-ft of Torque It was in only a handful of 2008 and 2009 Peterbilt before the Caterpillar left the highway engine market in 2010, and that's when American trucks died along with it.
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Since the 80s, American trucks have died, they have been left behind. The engines you mention are real junk, king of the hill in the United States. Do you think that no manufacturer brought those engines to Europe? And they were humiliated in every way.
@4_SJR 🤣🤣 The king of the hills in America? engine that's junk? Lol, can you tell me what's one of the most powerful truck engines of the last 60 years?Scania? Volvo? Man? No, it's a Cat. Even today, it's still the most powerful. One of them is the Cat C18 with 800hp, and it's been on Peterbilt since 2008, while you guys only got 780hp a few years ago Can you tell me what Europe needs to do with Cat engines when they have their own? Cats in Europe are installed as generators, not in trucks. There is no need for European truck manufacturers, who have spent a lot of money developing engines, to switch to cat?, Can you tell me what Australia used to pull 6 standard trailers with a 250 tonne road load before you guys had 600hp engines? The Aussie answer is yes, the Cat. And it will remain one of the best engines ever built for trucks. Horsepower, torque, reliability and durability. It’s easy to maintain and simple. And contrary to what Europe has even now, Your engines are loaded with components, prone to mechanical failure, expensive to maintain, and even with sophisticated and expensive technology, produce less horsepower than American engines from the early 2000s. That's ridiculous.That's really funny
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Something you fail to understand is that the numbers for the Europeans are not from the engine, they are from the wheels, and it's not my fault that you are an ignorant who knows nothing about trucks. SISU brought the C16, C13 and C15 for their trucks, DAF Cummins and Renault brought the Mack engines, all of them were humbled, high consumption and little torque to the wheels. To begin with, the FH16 was already used in the 90s to tow 200 tons in countries like Indonesia, where they gave better results than the Kw C500 with the car 3408 engine, they consumed half the fuel and required much less maintenance. The Actros Titan in the mid-90s, the Man V10 of 600hp also in the 90s or the Scania V8 of 580hp... all these trucks gave you 2065lb-ft to the wheels. The C18, even with Cat documentation, was not a truck engine, it is an industrial engine with stratospheric fuel consumption and very, very, very short maintenance, which was equipped in trucks unofficially (official CAT documentation, I'm not the one saying it, CAT says it). We can equip a Man marine or industrial engine and see how it humiliates an industrial Cat C18 if you want... Already in the 90s there were more European trucks in the world than American ones. They are junk engines, whether you like it or not. The most powerful Cat truck engine was the C15 King of the Hill with 625hp and a ridiculous 2045lb-ft at the crankshaft, Volvo at that time already had the Fh16 660hp with 2286lb-ft AT THE WHEELS. Without the need to equip industrial engines... I remind you that the loss of torque to the wheels in an American truck in the best case is 10%, I have seen up to 15% in some dumps... But I'll be good and I can, 10% boils down to a huge and heavy C18 industrial engine giving you at the wheels in the best case 2462lb-ft. and I'm using the figures for the most modern C18... if we go to older models with less torque we are equal with the Volvo Fh16 from 2005... Now stop making a fool of yourself and learn a little about trucks.
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Something you fail to understand is that the numbers for the Europeans are not from the engine, they are from the wheels, and it's not my fault that you are an ignorant who knows nothing about trucks. SISU brought the C16, C13 and C15 for their trucks, DAF Cummins and Renault brought the Mack engines, all of them were humbled, high consumption and little torque to the wheels. To begin with, the FH16 was already used in the 90s to tow 200 tons in countries like Indonesia, where they gave better results than the Kw C500 with the car 3408 engine, they consumed half the fuel and required much less maintenance. The Actros Titan in the mid-90s, the Man V10 of 600hp also in the 90s or the Scania V8 of 580hp... all these trucks gave you 2065lb-ft to the wheels. The C18, even with Cat documentation, was not a truck engine, it is an industrial engine with stratospheric fuel consumption and very, very, very short maintenance, which was equipped in trucks unofficially (official CAT documentation, I'm not the one saying it, CAT says it). We can equip a Man marine or industrial engine and see how it humiliates an industrial Cat C18 if you want... Already in the 90s there were more European trucks in the world than American ones. They are junk engines, whether you like it or not. The most powerful Cat truck engine was the C15 King of the Hill with 625hp and a ridiculous 2045lb-ft at the crankshaft, Volvo at that time already had the Fh16 660hp with 2286lb-ft AT THE WHEELS. Without the need to equip industrial engines... I remind you that the loss of torque to the wheels in an American truck in the best case is 10%, I have seen up to 15% in some dumps... But I'll be good and I can, 10% boils down to a huge and heavy C18 industrial engine giving you at the wheels in the best case 2462lb-ft. and I'm using the figures for the most modern C18... if we go to older models with less torque we are equal with the Volvo Fh16 from 2005... Now stop making a fool of yourself and learn a little about trucks.
In the UK, many articulated trucks with one trailer weigh up to 44 tons (97,000 lbs) which means a truck/trailer combination over 38 tons (83,755 lbs) must have 3 axles on both the tractor unit and trailer. The maximum length is also 18.55 metres (just under 61ft). Also, there is no real height limit in the UK, which is why you often see really tall trailers. Many trucks/trailers in some other parts of Europe are 4.0 metres high which, I believe, is why the tyres are of a smaller diameter compared to UK trucks, so that the whole truck/trailer combination doesn’t exceed 4.0 metres.
A less known difference between Volvo and Scania is where the HP is measured. Scania measures it on the wheels, while Volvo measures at the crank, giving the Scania engine more BHP.
Here in Europe more and more countries allow max length of up to 25 meters now and Sweden and Finland are testing trucks up to 33 meter total length (with some allowing up towards/above 100 metric tonnes). In a lot of trailers with 3 axles one of them will be a steerable one. Trucks are not allowed on the outer lane on motorways when there are 3 or more lanes here this side of the pond. We used to have tachiographs to record driving and resting time where it was a mechanical device. More modern trucks still have the recording done, but now it's done with a card the size of a credit card. Still logs the driving/resting time. As far as i know/remember though it is only 1 day per week that you can drive for 10h instead of the 9h. The max weight here in Europe is typical 44 metric tonnes though i think some countries allow up to 48 metric tonnes. I am not sure if this is the case anymore though
No you can do 10 hour drives up to twice in a week, you can also cut down the daily rest from 11 hours to 9 ours three times between two weekly rests, and then the weekly rest can be cut from 45 hours to 24 every second weekly rest, but the time has to be compensated so if you take say 9 hours less, you need to add 9 hours to another weekly rest within 3 weeks. Lots of rules for sure :)
80,000 lbs only on interstate highways (but some interstate roads can carry more than 80,000 lbs). Weight Laws in the US Only 25 states in the US have federal weight laws. Most of these are Eastern states, which have many cities. The 25 Western and Central states have their own weight laws, ranging from 90,000 lbs to 198,000 lbs in each state. Now, when you say the maximum payload in the US is 80,000 lbs, that is simply not true. Also, you should do more research. In Alaska, the tandem axle is rated at 36,000 lbs, not 34,000 lbs. It all depends on the weight laws of each state, which uses its own weight laws
Motortunnels? You might be thinking of the older American cabovers. More or less all long haul Eurotrucks have flat floors. As for spending time in the cab. It's a lot less in Europe than in the US because Europe is basically urbanised everywhere. There will almost always be motels or truck stops with sleep, food bathrom amenities available along most routes. This is one of the reasons cabin and cabin space is less of an issue. My brother in law has a Scania sleeper and drives all over Europe. He sleeps in his truck 2-3 times per year, the rest of the time he sleeps at motels etc. The US is much larger in size and has a lot more "empty space" wich makes sense why cabin space is more important.
3 axle is also common in Europe, esp. for construction and liquid transportation trucks. Also you forgot an important point, in the US the weight limit is 36 tonnes, whilst in Europe it's 40 tonnes, explaining why European trucks typically come with more powerful engines
@@hmdtrucking I should add that 40 tonnes is just the typical limit in europe, it actually goes up to 60 tonnes. So those extra horses really are needed.
In the US, only 23-25 states have a federal maximum weight limit of 80,000 lbs.Most of them are eastern and Southern US states, most of them are large cities. The 25 states in the Midwest and Western have their own weight laws, except for interstate highways, which have a maximum weight of 80,000 lbs., although some highways allow trucks to carry more than 80,000 lbs. Most states in the Midwest and Western have a maximum weight limit of 90,000-198,000 lbs, which varies by state
@@PhisitJenakkarkul There are also different limits for really heavy special cargo and special trailers in Europe, but since these aren't as typical as 40 to 60 tonnes I didn't figure they needed mentioning.
3 axels for weather? OMG! You don't know anything, do you? It's for weight distribution. The Nordic countries use this axel combo as standard. You can have them as tandem or boogie / pucher combo..
The comfort and safety of our European trucks is dozens of times better than when you compare it to an American. Now try driving a long nose semi truck through a city and a European front steering semi truck driving in front or behind and both with a trailer from the same continent as in the video, if the European drives behind he has to wait every time because of the large turning circle of the American, and if the European drives in front he is already out of the city before the American is just halfway. Plus the view is much better all around because we don't have a nose (possible with various brands such as Volvo, Scania and Iveco, but it is very cumbersome) .... and by the way, we also have 22 meters here in the Netherlands, fewer trucks and you can easily drive with them here. and if you look at the interior.......yes that is also quite behind there in the USA. Come out of that cave and look further than those square box semi trucks over there......just watch the videos of Bruce Wilson, the first Scania Next Gen in America from the factory in Sweden.
Dutch supremacy is knowing everything better right? Let's start with comfort: indeed... in your small trucks, nice when you drive daily but not for days or let alone weeks. I didn't even mention the horrible services and parking spots for truck drivers and the fact you always have to bring your own food from home with you and can't stop somewhere to eat like americans and australians do. Better comfort isn't it? Trucks with trailers aren't even allowed in many residential neighbourhoods in the cities in Europe, many have a length or weight limit anyway so the whole thing about the city is mostly not even true at all. And 22 meters on these so called 'Eco-combis' but with special permit, special selected routes and strict regulations like no overtaking anywhere. The length limit is still 13.6m for trailers with a total length of 16.5 meters and 18.75 for B-double combinations. But trucking in Europe is awful: driving at 80 - 90 km/h (most countries 80), with a smart digital tachograph (which can be scanned from distance) viewing everything you've done in every 45 second, max 9 (twice a week 10) hours drive time limit, which isn't a problem when you drive in the Netherlands alone but it isn't much when you drive internationally and many countries have GPS road-tolling with an OBU thing on your windshield where you have to plug in your cigarette lighter socket.. You view yourself as 'King of the roads and you think other people consider you that as well? Most of them don't even want to see trucks on the motorway at all or if they do: in the right hand lane, not overtaking. Imagine driving on the boring german autobahn in a truck, staying behind eachother at low speeds for hours and sunday driving bans aswell. In the US you have atleast more freedom for truck drivers, they can go with the traffic flow because the same speed is allowed which is 65-70 (105-113 km/h) on the east coast and even higher in western states with almost no traffic. And no ''overtaking bans'' because it's not needed, they don't clog up the roads like trucks do in Europe. So please put on your cheesy clogs and drive away.
@@martinws8416 You know quite a bit about the rules and laws, it seems like you used to live here......but if you suddenly have to brake at the speeds you indicate...how long is your braking distance with those trucks fully loaded?.......longer than that of someone who can drive max 90, faster is longer braking distance, applies to everything. Secondly, there is absolutely no point in driving above 100km/h here because of safety and exits that are not that far apart, you know that yourself given your knowledge of how things work here. Thirdly, the cabins are almost the same size and that is compared in the video by Bruce Wilson (already seen it?). Then about the driving times, I didn't talk about that. I didn't talk about overtaking either. But (if you want) watch the video. And by the way, I don't wear clogs and you're not even allowed to wear them in DAS DEUTSCHLAND!.. and lengths, well, we can drive through villages with a combi or with a trailer....they won't manage that with a nose and the axles on the end of the trailer, everything has its pros and cons. Plenty of parking spaces, look carefully and don't take the well-known spots. So nobody is allowed to drive a truck on Sunday?.....read better and know the law. What's wrong with an OBU, I don't pay for it, the employer/client does that anyway?. If you're not allowed in with your length/height etc., it means that you have to unload at another location that is indicated on your consignment note and that is usually a warehouse outside the center and that is known to the suppliers, what are you worried about. Shop suppliers have an exemption for it or it is not necessary....so don't tar everyone with the same brush. Enough advantages here to just continue. Fijne feestagen/schöne Feiertage. 🙂
@@thedutchhuman I live in Europe myself, in fact I wanted to become a truck driver but these stupid rules, regulations and bad reputation forced me not to do this, a decision I fortunately do not regret. Trucking in Europe is not as fun like in the US or Australia, where you have much more freedom, can stop to get something to eat wherever you want with much better services and getting much more respect from others, the salary is also twice as much truckers earn in western Europe. Here you're just a loan-slave with your digital tachograph recording every data and even speed with your many toll OBUs on the windshield. It's roadtolling with gps signals and it shouldn't be like that, there should've been other ways luckily Germany does offer a manual 'route ticket' but other countries like Poland, Czechia, Austria and so on don't do that. Sunday driving bans are terrible and outdated, it's terrible to stay at the roadside of the autobahn or some parking lots in Germany/France/Austria together with other drivers and have to wait till the ban is over, most drivers just want to go home and it's annoying when you can't due to a stupid law. There are exceptions like for livestock or perishable goods but still shouldn't be this way. You said ''plenty of parking spaces'' well not really... truck drivers often have to bypass service areas in Germany for example because they are often FULL. Truck drivers have much more fun in US/Canada/Australia like the reasons I've mentioned earlier, driving atleast a reasonable speed which is 100/105 km/h (62-65 mph) or higher in some US states/canadian provinces. Speedlimit for trucks should've been 100 km/h in Europe as well with our ''TECHNOLOGY'' mentioned by other truckers, it's better for the traffic flow and there is no problem when other drivers participate. You too by the way, have good holidays.
@randallraszick6001, maybe you ought to watch the Bruce Wilson video where he lists ALL the safety features that protect the driver in a collision, also bear in mind you sit a lot higher up in a cabover than you do a conventional truck.
So US trucks built for power and space? So why are european trucks more powerful? Volvo FH16 and Scania 770 haves 770 hp. European trucks are so far a head over US Trucks in every way.
We need more power because we have to climb hills and mountains more often than US trucks and at average they are a good bit steeper. Plus European trucks have to slow down and stop more often and accelerate more often. Especially in areas with lots of hills and tight corners it adds up positively pretty quickly when you have one of the more powerfull engines. Or long runs over mountains like when we drove from Germany to Italy during my childhood. It was kinda crazy how much distance our Scania (stock 420hp, tuned to guessed around 540-550hp) gained over the Brenner pass on trucks that came with 420-500hp from the factory.
An average truck in Europe still uses 400-530 hp engines, owner operators in the US 500-650 hp. What's the point of having 770 hp engines for daily driving unless you are indeed in mountainous areas or pulling heavy weights like in Sweden/Finland. US trucks can still modify the engine or put in a bigger engine like a Caterpillar C18 with 900 hp when needed and which is often used in Australia/Canada.
American class 8 trucks went away from cabover for several reasons American cabover trucks weren't comfortable with drivers having to climb in and out with the step being directly over the front steer tires the ride was horrible and stiff drivers complained back and knees problems associated with them, #2 the thin sheet metal layer in front of the cab didn't provide any protection in case of a front end collision driver surviving was very low, # 3 tilting cabs for accessibility to engine compartment, many mechanics suffered injuries and even death when underneath cab servicing the engine and tilting cab mechanisms failed and cabs came down crushing mechanics, #4 in later years not sure about which government agency EPA, DOT, NHSC, decided these trucks where not Aerodynamic and was like a flat door meeting the wind head on causing resistance = using more fuel to propell the truck forward,
@WilliamHarmon-x8n, European cabovers are completely different to their American counterparts, I suggest you Watch a few Bruce Wilson videos he has just imported a Next-Gen Scania into the USA as an ambassador for Scania, you will certainly find it informative, and help you realise how advanced European trucks are compared to American trucks.
@davidjames990 Sir I am totally aware that European cabovers and American cabover trucks are as different as night and day no matter how much technically superior they are engineered American truckers will not purchase them in mass if at all American truckers for the most part love long hood conventionals that is something Scania MAN and other European semi truck manufacturers realize the best thing European truck manufacturers could possibly do is team up a American truck manufacturer peterbilt, kenworth freightliner, mack westernstar etc etc, and discuss possibly engine technology or even competing with Cummins or Detroit for accessibility to the American market since the exit of Catapillar, instead trying to compete head to head in the American market. And yes I'm familiar with Bruce Wilson's channel.
@@WilliamHarmon-x8n Please note: almost all of the US semi builders are owned by European companies, so they know how to build a US truck. It is simply to expensive to put the mandated extras in from Europe, as they would need to recertify them in the US, due to US law nonsense.
@@davidjames990 One thing you don't know is that 80,000 lbs is federal law and is mostly used by Eastern and Southern states. The Western and Some states from the Midwest have their own weight laws, with 25 states. Just like in Montana, we have a 28-foot tractor with a 53-foot, four-axle trailer that hauls 142,000 lbs That's just in Montana, because other states have their own weight laws, except for states that use federal law
@@PhisitJenakkarkul, so as I understand it you run at some higher weights yet you have issues with overweight axles yet you don't run tri-axles as standard as we do in Europe and the UK why not?
@davidjames990 Not using 3 axles? Bro, in the US, 2 axle trailers are mostly used in the eastern and southern states. Only a few eastern and southern states have a weight limit above federal law, such as New York, Florida, Maine, Michigan, Most of them are 3 axle trailers, like in Michigan you have 11 axles Turnpike Doubles weighing 164,000 lbs, While in the western states and the Midwest, the Super B 8 axles has a maximum weight of 63,500 kg
@@PhisitJenakkarkul, you are missing my point, we have 45 ft trailers as standard in Europe and the UK and we rarely have problems with overweight axles, whereas your trailers are a little bit longer and run mainly two axles, the point I'm trying to make is that it would make more sense to have three axles as standard which then would mean a less likely chance of being overweight on your axle limits
@@LuXuZ Did I underestimate the braking power of European trucks? When did I mention it? If you could post all of this, it's you who underestimates the other mileage, and you certainly lack experience with American trucks
Gen Z so stupid from the 60s thru 1980's we in America used the Flat nosed Tractors then 90s on some chose the Peterbilt Regional while mostly short haulers still love Peterbilt CabOver.
And some Eurooean trailers have self-tracking axles t o reduce tyre scrum & increase turning and axle lifts to save on tyre ware & reduce drag. not noticed in the US. Incdently the old tilt trailers are now quite rare, curtain siders having taken over. Final point European trucks look modern, US..........not so
The ones in Europe (small heavy trailers) cause alot of wear and tear on the roads. An american 53'/16.20m semi-trailer is much better stretched out on the roads. It's also more comfortable to drive a longer trailer with two axles than the ones in Europe with 3 axles and 13.6 m long. But everything regarding trucks is awful in Europe, like what you mentioned and super single's all due to budget
More power.. Only Scania/Volvo with a few models, americans still have other engines like a Caterpillar C18 with 900 hp Comfort.. Which comfort? american trucks are more comfortable and have more interior space, all comfort european trucks have were already there in the 1990s, like climate control/air suspension/leather seats. Nice... driving 85 km/h all day long on the autobahn with your OBU toll and digital tachograph and all other people in Europe making fun of you. Safety? yes lane assist and emergency braking and speedlimit sign recognition... yes because your truck drivers can't drive that well
Great video 👍 The conclusion is American trucks are built to a price the drivers is treated like every other American worker like garbage.In Europe truck's are developed for efficiency and comfort as the drivers are treated with value of a human being 😮
Load of bs, I've noticed most anti-US comments are from brits like you (mr. Sean R.@bigbird2100) and because the jealousy of the USA in generally and try to criticize everything what comes from the US. I know it's hard when your former colonies Canada/Australia/the US are more wealthier and prosperous than the UK is now and the fact the UK is now USA's little brother. It's the other way round. In Europe you can't drive more than 9 hours a day, you have a smart digital-tachograph which can be read out from distance on an overpass, do a small infriction and you end up getting heavy fines both for yourself and the company (even worse when you are an owner operator), you have many countries that force truckdrivers to pay toll with an OBU thing with gps-signals you have to plug in on the windscreen, stuck in your tiny cabins while you can't drive faster than 50-56 mph. In the US you have much more freedom, you can travel as fast as normal traffic which is 65- even 80 mph in some states, you can drive up to 11hrs a day and the services for truck drivers is also much better. In the US truckers are considered as essential. You just have a bad reputation in the UK, holding up the fast lane and people doesn't respect ''lorry drivers'' as much like semi-truck drivers in Canada/USA.
European trucks are used all over the world, I see you don't understand that, in Turkey it is common to see them going up to 100mph with 40 metric tons, in Australia we all go at 60 approx, in Brazil 75\80...
There is coming new scania r 1000 2025 and has even more hp. So this is true by so far but wait a new scania to come out. If it aint Scania i am not interested. I am Scania driver for life.
Buzzer. Wrong American trailers are 53 feet in length flatbed trailers may continue taking on the 48 foot length but most of them there in different lengths anywhere from 48 to 60 feet depending on the type of trailer you pick And speed limits vary from state to state anywhere from 45 mph the minimum speed on interstates to 80 mph in some states And you forget the other popular American diesel engine Caterpillar legendary for it. It’s high torque output.
@@jeroenvandenbos4903 Just put on your smelly cheesy clogs and drive away, while holding everybody up in your DAF or whatever tiny euro truck with 1 rear axle overtaking another truck at slow speed
I was surprised to hear European trucks are more comfortable to drive than US trucks. I believed the long wheel base of the American would transmit to a more comfortable ride. As is the case with cars. Are the Europeans utilizing black magic?
Just good engineering. Watch the videos of Bruce Wilson and his Sania COE in the USA - The surprised comments of other truck drivers when they try it out.
@@nikolabacvanski3372 American trucks had already airsuspension before european trucks had them. American trucks had already all luxury like Climate Control/Air suspension/leather seats/big interiors. But who are you to say? you're from Czech Republic or Slovakia or so.... back in the time you only had TATA/Kamaz trucks. Trucking in central-Europe is the worst place to be a truck driver in.. with digital toll, extremely strictly regulations and extremely boring roads/view as well
@@martinws8416 No, im from Serbia....in 60's and 70's we had mack, ford and freightliner and all europeans brands... even than people did talk bad about american trucks. Bad roads europe have best roads/views in the world....Norway, Swiss alps in Italy toscana and much more, u know there is a reason why european truck are used around the world , and american just in usa and australia.. they look very nice, but they are not that andvanced .
Sorry, but HMD Trucking should try and actually DRIVE an European truck (semi? whaaaat? - Semi means "half", like your pickup trucks, they are semi (half) trucks you really can't get that right? hahaha :D)
Not mentioned is that a truck with trailer in the EU is maxed out to 80 kph, no matter the speed limit, a heavy truck alone can go 90 kph. And in Sweden where i live the max weight of a semi clocks in over 155,000lbs or 72 tons without special permit, now not all roads allow that but more and more do.
That's what it is in Sweden not in the rest of the EU, the speedlimit is still 90 km/h for trucks in France, Belgium, Ireland, UK (97 km/h) and some countries in eastern Europe.
At least our boxes look unique and are easily distinguishable from each other. They haven't all ripped off the same blueprint. European trucks are safer (generally), more fuel efficient, have more driver comforts, more power, better transmissions, better ergonomics, better brakes, and the list goes on. Everything you see in your trucks now was probably developed here 10-15 years ago. Though it usually gets fucked up by the time it ends up in an American truck because the junk has to be built in America. And therein lies the problem. I have a saying: "Why buy American when you can get Swedish or German for same price but twice the quality, or Chinese for half price and same quality?"
@@tntfreddan3138ngl they both follow generic design types. Every us truck looks like a dog head and every European truck looks like a box. I just wanna say that you guys can’t compete when it comes down to actually making a useful car (like a truck or suv). A traverse would be 10x more practical that a gls or x7
@@Cowboy1957 That doesn't make you know about trucks, you can be ignorant all your life and not know it... If you've never left the United States in your life you know absolutely nothing about trucks and this is told to you by someone who is now in Australia and drives all kinds of trucks.
European and Japanese cars are much better than USA cars. It follows that trucks are also much better. However, we copy their absurd trucks, pickups and SUVs.
No. European trucks aren't better, they're heavily regulated take for example an average Iveco, DAF, Mercedes, MAN. The only thing european trucks have (required by the EU) are stupid safety systems like lane assist, emergency assist, speedlimit detection, smart digital tachograph
@@martinws8416, how can safety systems be stupid, they are called safety systems for a reason they protect the driver, look how many US truck drivers are killed in collisions compared to those from Europe and the UK, we clearly have a much better chance of surviving a crash, even though we are in cabovers.
@@davidjames990 You don't. The only reason why you survive more in the UK is because your roads are heavily congested so less moving traffic and you live in the most populated country (mentioning England itself, not the whole UK) so more possibilities for medical services and so on. There are many less populated areas in the US which may even take hours to arrive for medical assistance. Driving in many parts of the US/Canada and Australia is just more of a risk because of this.
With every year USA is turning more and more in to a theme park. I don’t know how many times people come back from the states with pictures of American “solutions”. TH-cam is full of comparison videos, and USA is always retro.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 He (jonhroarulstad557) is from Norway, they are kinda arrogant and cold people in generally; very introvert and not even holding the door open for eachother or greeting eachother. The only thing that made the country rich was the revenue from gas and oil. They are so hypocritical when they talk about CO2 and try to get everyone to buy an electric car while their main exports are indeed from gas and oil.
Not so.. European trucks break down very often, everyday there's congestion on the highways/motorways because a truck broke down and needs to be towed away
@@r11tc EURO trucks aren't comfortable to stay in for too long. They only got safety systems (that already exists in the US) like lane assist/emergency braking assist (which often fails), speedlimit assist. All annoying things that are required by the EU but not by Owner Operators.
@@martinws8416 You sound like someone who newer drove EU truck, you're pulling things from ceiling. Some trips takes weeks here in EU and drivers aren't complaining about comfort. DAF XG+ has big cabin for your reference.
@@r11tc Oh wow... Daf XG+ that's soo big... 😅 US trucks have much better space at the rear where they can stand, sit on a table without the need to be in the passengers seat. It's not that great here for trucking, the salary for someone from western Europe is about 3000eur for international trucking... even someone who works at the HR of a company earns more and he/she is home every afternoon. I do live here in the EU I know trucks and the regulations. I wanted to become one but just didn't wanted anymore after all these rules from the EU and other regulations from other countries. It's just so nice being in your small cabin, driving at..... 85 km/h on average (even 60 km/h on B-roads in Germany...) while you have a smart-digital tachograph attached to the truck and in which they can see what you have done so far in every 45 seconds (go over your 9hr drive-time and risk a 2000eur fine in Spain/France) Don't forget your (mandatory) several tollbox-OBU's for some countries on your front windshield (attached to the cigarette lighter) to pay toll which works via GPS data....... oh and don't forget the full parking spots and sunday driving bans in alot of countries like Germany/France/Czech Republic/Austria/Switzerland and others
Bri'ish innit maytt, seems like someone still can't have it the fact former UK colony got independence in 1776 and is for centuries stronger and wealthier than the UK ever was and in fact the UK is now USA's little brother. Your average EU truck-trailer combination is just 16.5m long, american semi-truck/trailer combination about 22-23 meters. The average salary for truck drivers in the UK max $ 30.000 and USA from $ 60.000 to over 100k USD.
@ yeah boy, but! Yank truck still weak hauling 35 tons at 400 bhp🤣 and btw I’m English not British so your British bullshitery don’t wash brother…. You crack on living in the dark ages 💪🏼
@@AdamMcCool-01 American trucks already had 600 hp (Cummins KTA) about 50 years ago while Scania only had 375hp 5 years after that 😂, there is also the Caterpillar C18 engine with 900 hp when needed. You actually live in the stoneages with your food covered in newspapers.. Euro trucks still have only 400/450 hp-530hp on average, american trucks had this figure 30 years ago already and even up to 600. There is also the Caterpillar C18 engine with 900 hp when needed.and bad small narrow roads and boring ''motorways'' with trucks being limited to 56 mph and cars only 70. Trucks are allowed to go the same speed of cars which is between 65-80 mph depends on state. The truckstops and services in the US/Canada/Australia are much better than any of these in Europe. Trucks are just a slow pain in the as# in Europe and finding the right amount of parking spot seems as well trouble. Ironic thing is the fact you have a profile picture with the UK flag but you want to be called English and don't want to be associated with being ''british'' I'm not even from the US but the US is always better than the UK at things, for example the Gulf War (led by the US ofcourse 🇺🇸) was called ''Operation Desert Storm'' the UK had ''Operation Desert Slow''
An engineer from Paccar said that 70% of the trucks in the world are European, only 16% are American, that is to say for every 1000 trucks, 700 are European and only 160 are American and that with this difference in trucks, the European truck had fewer deaths and was the safest truck in the event of an accident by far. Appearances can be deceiving. I am from Mexico, I have driven American trucks all my life, I would never go back to an American truck even if I were drunk. Now I am in a Scania and it is infinitely better. I prefer to have a little less space if in exchange my life is safer and my back no longer hurts. With the American truck you would end the day exhausted, with the European you end up tired. That is the huge difference.
Good insight, looks like for some americans their trucks are not uncomfy enough as they lower and push back their seat to look " cool " by putting their anatomy in the most bizarre positions.
@@RedEemblem europee yess I wish I was european im from australia
Very well said. There are totally different pushes behind American design and builds. I hate to say it. But money and no common sense due to being money and power hungry drives a lot of things in america.im American and it's so obvious when you experience other brands and what other countries have to offer.
I'll still take American over euro anyday
Assuming your death claim is accurate, it probably has more to do with higher speeds, longer trips and less regulation in the US than just the trucks themselves.
You forgot to mention that some European trailers rear wheels can turn with the front to help negotiate tight spaces
Not all European trucks have motortunnels, most European trucks have a flat cabin floor and also a jake brake . They even have a refrigerator and a microwave oven. European trucks have even automatic cruise control that keeps a save distance to the vehicles in front of it and emergency brake systems.
well you know investigation is a bitch hahahah
And have a coffee machine
Cool story. American trucks have all of that.
European trucks of today dont have loud noisy jake brakes anymore but hydrodynamic or electrodynamic retarders which gives a much better brake force.
@@NewmanAttackguess what european had that 15 years ago, back in that time americans had drum brakes....
34,5 meter in Sweden and Finland on all major roads. 74 tonnes/163000 pounds on select roads.
I noticed one thing you didn't mention. Trucks are not allowed in the outside lane on a three or more lane highway in Europe, also, a lot of trailers in Europe can be steered.
True § In addition, several trailors have an automatic suspension device that raises the first axle of the trailer when running with a limited load... This allows a reduced degradation of the tires and improves fuel efficiency.
Driving from Mörby towards Täby outside Stockholm Sweden the road has 3 lanes, but right one is for busses, left one is not allowed for me in a heavy truck, so pretty much a highway with 1 lane, and it sucks since cars tends to drive 70 kph with speed limit being 80 kph :)
@@BerraLJ I like how Helsinki does it. Mannerheimintie has 2 lanes, 1 for cars and 1 for buses, but bus lane is permitted for trucks and vans too outside rush hour.
I believe Ring III has a section where you have 3 lanes, 1 for buses, but outside rush hour any vehicle is allowed there.
We have both in Australia European trucks outperform American in every application Scania and Volvo just make the American trucks look stupid and the European 16ltr V8 Scania
Not in the long haul 🤡 aerodynamic do mather
Noelszasza sounds rather polish/central european rather than australian...
yeh imma from australia too matee I prefer european trucks and I wish I was born in europe matee I love tiny things because Im a tiny person
No no American trucks are better and the European ones look stupid
@dawnbaswell1853 haha American trucks are only better at breaking down and the European trucks might look stupid at the cost of excalance we will still need something for the drag queen truck drivers so that's the reason for American trucks take a chill pill princess
When I lived in the UK in the mid 70’s, the fuel transport guys loved our trucks ex specially “Convoy” the movie!
Speedlimiter does not reduce fuel consumption. It actually increase
That is a fact!
Interesting video
Regarding diesel motors, it's irrelevant to compare horsepower. The torque is what matters.
Was thinking the same thing... Where's the the torque numbers...?
Scania 770 max torque 3700 NM, Volvo 780 3800 NM
Power matters too. To get the full picture you want torque vs rpm curve and power vs rpm curve, rather than just the peak figures. There's also throttle response (how quickly the engine speeds up), which complicates things.
False, only horsepower matters. You can make as much wheel torque as you want with gearing.
@@TopiasSalakka An than the speed goes way.... 50 km/h max! Fantastic!!!!
Minimum for a trailer is less than 48 and the northeastern USA is much tighter than the rest of the country (especially the west coast.)
I hate that i have to drive a automatic now.
Here there are many things to improve and clarify, to begin with, no European truck is a cousin, they are all the big brothers of the American models, the American brands are the low cost versions. The development of a single European truck is greater than that of all the American brands put together. In Paccar alone, 70% of the budget goes to DAF, which develops everything within the group. The detroit DD engines are the low end of the OM engines of mercedes. Next the European trucks have engine brake, exhaust brake and retarder, achieving a retention of almost 2000hp on some models. The torques are also much higher, the D13K (2065lb-ft) of Volvo exclusive of the European models can give more torque than the Cummins X15 of 605hp, they are infinitely more comfortable to drive and are infinitely safer, in general they make the American truck look like junk, they are 15/20 years ahead.
@@4_SJR Bro, I can confidently say that American trucks died with the Cat engine in 2010. You can see this from the Cat's demise in the on-highway engine market. Before this we had the 625 hp twin-turbo CAT C15, And the CAT C16 15.8 liter 625 horsepower, they are nicknamed the King of the Hill. It also features one of the rarest engines on the American truck market it's 18.1 liters CAT C18 ACRET 800hp 2,917-lb-ft of Torque It was in only a handful of 2008 and 2009 Peterbilt before the Caterpillar left the highway engine market in 2010, and that's when American trucks died along with it.
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Since the 80s, American trucks have died, they have been left behind. The engines you mention are real junk, king of the hill in the United States. Do you think that no manufacturer brought those engines to Europe? And they were humiliated in every way.
@4_SJR 🤣🤣 The king of the hills in America? engine that's junk? Lol, can you tell me what's one of the most powerful truck engines of the last 60 years?Scania? Volvo? Man? No, it's a Cat. Even today, it's still the most powerful. One of them is the Cat C18 with 800hp, and it's been on Peterbilt since 2008, while you guys only got 780hp a few years ago Can you tell me what Europe needs to do with Cat engines when they have their own? Cats in Europe are installed as generators, not in trucks. There is no need for European truck manufacturers, who have spent a lot of money developing engines, to switch to cat?, Can you tell me what Australia used to pull 6 standard trailers with a 250 tonne road load before you guys had 600hp engines? The Aussie answer is yes, the Cat. And it will remain one of the best engines ever built for trucks. Horsepower, torque, reliability and durability. It’s easy to maintain and simple. And contrary to what Europe has even now, Your engines are loaded with components, prone to mechanical failure, expensive to maintain, and even with sophisticated and expensive technology, produce less horsepower than American engines from the early 2000s. That's ridiculous.That's really funny
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Something you fail to understand is that the numbers for the Europeans are not from the engine, they are from the wheels, and it's not my fault that you are an ignorant who knows nothing about trucks. SISU brought the C16, C13 and C15 for their trucks, DAF Cummins and Renault brought the Mack engines, all of them were humbled, high consumption and little torque to the wheels. To begin with, the FH16 was already used in the 90s to tow 200 tons in countries like Indonesia, where they gave better results than the Kw C500 with the car 3408 engine, they consumed half the fuel and required much less maintenance. The Actros Titan in the mid-90s, the Man V10 of 600hp also in the 90s or the Scania V8 of 580hp... all these trucks gave you 2065lb-ft to the wheels. The C18, even with Cat documentation, was not a truck engine, it is an industrial engine with stratospheric fuel consumption and very, very, very short maintenance, which was equipped in trucks unofficially (official CAT documentation, I'm not the one saying it, CAT says it). We can equip a Man marine or industrial engine and see how it humiliates an industrial Cat C18 if you want... Already in the 90s there were more European trucks in the world than American ones. They are junk engines, whether you like it or not. The most powerful Cat truck engine was the C15 King of the Hill with 625hp and a ridiculous 2045lb-ft at the crankshaft, Volvo at that time already had the Fh16 660hp with 2286lb-ft AT THE WHEELS. Without the need to equip industrial engines... I remind you that the loss of torque to the wheels in an American truck in the best case is 10%, I have seen up to 15% in some dumps... But I'll be good and I can, 10% boils down to a huge and heavy C18 industrial engine giving you at the wheels in the best case 2462lb-ft. and I'm using the figures for the most modern C18... if we go to older models with less torque we are equal with the Volvo Fh16 from 2005... Now stop making a fool of yourself and learn a little about trucks.
@@PhisitJenakkarkul Something you fail to understand is that the numbers for the Europeans are not from the engine, they are from the wheels, and it's not my fault that you are an ignorant who knows nothing about trucks. SISU brought the C16, C13 and C15 for their trucks, DAF Cummins and Renault brought the Mack engines, all of them were humbled, high consumption and little torque to the wheels. To begin with, the FH16 was already used in the 90s to tow 200 tons in countries like Indonesia, where they gave better results than the Kw C500 with the car 3408 engine, they consumed half the fuel and required much less maintenance. The Actros Titan in the mid-90s, the Man V10 of 600hp also in the 90s or the Scania V8 of 580hp... all these trucks gave you 2065lb-ft to the wheels. The C18, even with Cat documentation, was not a truck engine, it is an industrial engine with stratospheric fuel consumption and very, very, very short maintenance, which was equipped in trucks unofficially (official CAT documentation, I'm not the one saying it, CAT says it). We can equip a Man marine or industrial engine and see how it humiliates an industrial Cat C18 if you want... Already in the 90s there were more European trucks in the world than American ones. They are junk engines, whether you like it or not. The most powerful Cat truck engine was the C15 King of the Hill with 625hp and a ridiculous 2045lb-ft at the crankshaft, Volvo at that time already had the Fh16 660hp with 2286lb-ft AT THE WHEELS. Without the need to equip industrial engines... I remind you that the loss of torque to the wheels in an American truck in the best case is 10%, I have seen up to 15% in some dumps... But I'll be good and I can, 10% boils down to a huge and heavy C18 industrial engine giving you at the wheels in the best case 2462lb-ft. and I'm using the figures for the most modern C18... if we go to older models with less torque we are equal with the Volvo Fh16 from 2005... Now stop making a fool of yourself and learn a little about trucks.
The shortest trailer in the US is not 48ft. It is 28ft. I drive 28ft and 53ft trailers.
There are plenty of 20-footers for hauling short containers too.
In the UK, many articulated trucks with one trailer weigh up to 44 tons (97,000 lbs) which means a truck/trailer combination over 38 tons (83,755 lbs) must have 3 axles on both the tractor unit and trailer. The maximum length is also 18.55 metres (just under 61ft).
Also, there is no real height limit in the UK, which is why you often see really tall trailers. Many trucks/trailers in some other parts of Europe are 4.0 metres high which, I believe, is why the tyres are of a smaller diameter compared to UK trucks, so that the whole truck/trailer combination doesn’t exceed 4.0 metres.
A less known difference between Volvo and Scania is where the HP is measured. Scania measures it on the wheels, while Volvo measures at the crank, giving the Scania engine more BHP.
Every manufacturer measures it in Crank and hence they call it Brake horse power. This new measurement of Scania is news to me. 😊
I wish I was european, imma from aussie land
That's why the the 470hp f16 was more powerful than the 500hp 143
Crank horsepower will always be higher than wheel horsepower.. Both Scania and Volvo uses the same standard of measuring horsepower.
Here in Europe more and more countries allow max length of up to 25 meters now and Sweden and Finland are testing trucks up to 33 meter total length (with some allowing up towards/above 100 metric tonnes). In a lot of trailers with 3 axles one of them will be a steerable one. Trucks are not allowed on the outer lane on motorways when there are 3 or more lanes here this side of the pond. We used to have tachiographs to record driving and resting time where it was a mechanical device. More modern trucks still have the recording done, but now it's done with a card the size of a credit card. Still logs the driving/resting time. As far as i know/remember though it is only 1 day per week that you can drive for 10h instead of the 9h. The max weight here in Europe is typical 44 metric tonnes though i think some countries allow up to 48 metric tonnes. I am not sure if this is the case anymore though
No you can do 10 hour drives up to twice in a week, you can also cut down the daily rest from 11 hours to 9 ours three times between two weekly rests, and then the weekly rest can be cut from 45 hours to 24 every second weekly rest, but the time has to be compensated so if you take say 9 hours less, you need to add 9 hours to another weekly rest within 3 weeks. Lots of rules for sure :)
Total lenght in Denmark is 34m. Jan 2024.
@@shades2.183 ahh ok. Seems a lot has happened since i was driving a truck last time
It's 40tons, some countries allow 44t or higher. The max limit is still 16.5m in rest of Europe
@@shades2.183 With special permits on special routes and strict rules yes
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You forgot about abs braking on European trailers
80,000 lbs only on interstate highways (but some interstate roads can carry more than 80,000 lbs). Weight Laws in the US Only 25 states in the US have federal weight laws. Most of these are Eastern states, which have many cities. The 25 Western and Central states have their own weight laws, ranging from 90,000 lbs to 198,000 lbs in each state. Now, when you say the maximum payload in the US is 80,000 lbs, that is simply not true. Also, you should do more research. In Alaska, the tandem axle is rated at 36,000 lbs, not 34,000 lbs. It all depends on the weight laws of each state, which uses its own weight laws
Yes sir! I see huge loads here in Tennessee all the time. Buildings, dozers, cranes etc.
Motortunnels? You might be thinking of the older American cabovers. More or less all long haul Eurotrucks have flat floors. As for spending time in the cab. It's a lot less in Europe than in the US because Europe is basically urbanised everywhere. There will almost always be motels or truck stops with sleep, food bathrom amenities available along most routes. This is one of the reasons cabin and cabin space is less of an issue. My brother in law has a Scania sleeper and drives all over Europe. He sleeps in his truck 2-3 times per year, the rest of the time he sleeps at motels etc. The US is much larger in size and has a lot more "empty space" wich makes sense why cabin space is more important.
Tyson Foods was looking into using used cooking oil converted to diesel in the early 90’s.
Interesting
Jake brakes are limited in a lot of areas
American truckers have said that Scania are 10 years ahead of US trucks with technology
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Which technology? Lane assist, speed assist and all other crap owner operator don't want
@@martinws8416 You'we WRONG!!!!!
@@martinws8416 Wrong! you want it, read!!
@@sveinfarstad3897 Norwegians... often kinda cold people, not even greeting eachother or holding the door open for others etc
... love this overview.
... really good is the quality of all the clips and also the neutral look on both sides of the medal!
3 axle is also common in Europe, esp. for construction and liquid transportation trucks. Also you forgot an important point, in the US the weight limit is 36 tonnes, whilst in Europe it's 40 tonnes, explaining why European trucks typically come with more powerful engines
We didn't forget about weight limit factor. It is covered in the first minutes of that video.
@@hmdtrucking I should add that 40 tonnes is just the typical limit in europe, it actually goes up to 60 tonnes. So those extra horses really are needed.
In the US, only 23-25 states have a federal maximum weight limit of 80,000 lbs.Most of them are eastern and Southern US states, most of them are large cities. The 25 states in the Midwest and Western have their own weight laws, except for interstate highways, which have a maximum weight of 80,000 lbs., although some highways allow trucks to carry more than 80,000 lbs. Most states in the Midwest and Western have a maximum weight limit of 90,000-198,000 lbs, which varies by state
@@PhisitJenakkarkul There are also different limits for really heavy special cargo and special trailers in Europe, but since these aren't as typical as 40 to 60 tonnes I didn't figure they needed mentioning.
@@bellator11 I have never seen a standard truck in the western US that weighs less than 60 tons
i disagree with the automatic transmission is better to keep u alert a manual transmission with keep u awake and manual uyou dont get stuck as much
3 axels for weather? OMG! You don't know anything, do you? It's for weight distribution. The Nordic countries use this axel combo as standard. You can have them as tandem or boogie / pucher combo..
The comfort and safety of our European trucks is dozens of times better than when you compare it to an American. Now try driving a long nose semi truck through a city and a European front steering semi truck driving in front or behind and both with a trailer from the same continent as in the video, if the European drives behind he has to wait every time because of the large turning circle of the American, and if the European drives in front he is already out of the city before the American is just halfway. Plus the view is much better all around because we don't have a nose (possible with various brands such as Volvo, Scania and Iveco, but it is very cumbersome) .... and by the way, we also have 22 meters here in the Netherlands, fewer trucks and you can easily drive with them here. and if you look at the interior.......yes that is also quite behind there in the USA. Come out of that cave and look further than those square box semi trucks over there......just watch the videos of Bruce Wilson, the first Scania Next Gen in America from the factory in Sweden.
Dutch supremacy is knowing everything better right?
Let's start with comfort: indeed... in your small trucks, nice when you drive daily but not for days or let alone weeks. I didn't even mention the horrible services and parking spots for truck drivers and the fact you always have to bring your own food from home with you and can't stop somewhere to eat like americans and australians do. Better comfort isn't it?
Trucks with trailers aren't even allowed in many residential neighbourhoods in the cities in Europe, many have a length or weight limit anyway so the whole thing about the city is mostly not even true at all.
And 22 meters on these so called 'Eco-combis' but with special permit, special selected routes and strict regulations like no overtaking anywhere. The length limit is still 13.6m for trailers with a total length of 16.5 meters and 18.75 for B-double combinations.
But trucking in Europe is awful: driving at 80 - 90 km/h (most countries 80), with a smart digital tachograph (which can be scanned from distance) viewing everything you've done in every 45 second, max 9 (twice a week 10) hours drive time limit, which isn't a problem when you drive in the Netherlands alone but it isn't much when you drive internationally and many countries have GPS road-tolling with an OBU thing on your windshield where you have to plug in your cigarette lighter socket..
You view yourself as 'King of the roads and you think other people consider you that as well? Most of them don't even want to see trucks on the motorway at all or if they do: in the right hand lane, not overtaking. Imagine driving on the boring german autobahn in a truck, staying behind eachother at low speeds for hours and sunday driving bans aswell.
In the US you have atleast more freedom for truck drivers, they can go with the traffic flow because the same speed is allowed which is 65-70 (105-113 km/h) on the east coast and even higher in western states with almost no traffic. And no ''overtaking bans'' because it's not needed, they don't clog up the roads like trucks do in Europe.
So please put on your cheesy clogs and drive away.
@@martinws8416 You know quite a bit about the rules and laws, it seems like you used to live here......but if you suddenly have to brake at the speeds you indicate...how long is your braking distance with those trucks fully loaded?.......longer than that of someone who can drive max 90, faster is longer braking distance, applies to everything. Secondly, there is absolutely no point in driving above 100km/h here because of safety and exits that are not that far apart, you know that yourself given your knowledge of how things work here. Thirdly, the cabins are almost the same size and that is compared in the video by Bruce Wilson (already seen it?). Then about the driving times, I didn't talk about that. I didn't talk about overtaking either. But (if you want) watch the video. And by the way, I don't wear clogs and you're not even allowed to wear them in DAS DEUTSCHLAND!.. and lengths, well, we can drive through villages with a combi or with a trailer....they won't manage that with a nose and the axles on the end of the trailer, everything has its pros and cons. Plenty of parking spaces, look carefully and don't take the well-known spots. So nobody is allowed to drive a truck on Sunday?.....read better and know the law. What's wrong with an OBU, I don't pay for it, the employer/client does that anyway?. If you're not allowed in with your length/height etc., it means that you have to unload at another location that is indicated on your consignment note and that is usually a warehouse outside the center and that is known to the suppliers, what are you worried about. Shop suppliers have an exemption for it or it is not necessary....so don't tar everyone with the same brush. Enough advantages here to just continue. Fijne feestagen/schöne Feiertage. 🙂
Almost like a lot of driving in the US is longer distances in much more open areas?
@@thedutchhuman I live in Europe myself, in fact I wanted to become a truck driver but these stupid rules, regulations and bad reputation forced me not to do this, a decision I fortunately do not regret.
Trucking in Europe is not as fun like in the US or Australia, where you have much more freedom, can stop to get something to eat wherever you want with much better services and getting much more respect from others, the salary is also twice as much truckers earn in western Europe. Here you're just a loan-slave with your digital tachograph recording every data and even speed with your many toll OBUs on the windshield. It's roadtolling with gps signals and it shouldn't be like that, there should've been other ways luckily Germany does offer a manual 'route ticket' but other countries like Poland, Czechia, Austria and so on don't do that.
Sunday driving bans are terrible and outdated, it's terrible to stay at the roadside of the autobahn or some parking lots in Germany/France/Austria together with other drivers and have to wait till the ban is over, most drivers just want to go home and it's annoying when you can't due to a stupid law. There are exceptions like for livestock or perishable goods but still shouldn't be this way.
You said ''plenty of parking spaces'' well not really... truck drivers often have to bypass service areas in Germany for example because they are often FULL.
Truck drivers have much more fun in US/Canada/Australia like the reasons I've mentioned earlier, driving atleast a reasonable speed which is 100/105 km/h (62-65 mph) or higher in some US states/canadian provinces. Speedlimit for trucks should've been 100 km/h in Europe as well with our ''TECHNOLOGY'' mentioned by other truckers, it's better for the traffic flow and there is no problem when other drivers participate.
You too by the way, have good holidays.
@@martinws8416 Absolutely true
That new Mercedes remember me the Alien 8th passenger and also Pale Man in movie El laberinto del fauno. LOL
You should do a comparrison to Australian trucks. They are different.
They're more like American trucks.
If you are driving a cabover you are first to the accident. Jake brakes cut off fuel flow to select cylinders.
@randallraszick6001, maybe you ought to watch the Bruce Wilson video where he lists ALL the safety features that protect the driver in a collision, also bear in mind you sit a lot higher up in a cabover than you do a conventional truck.
But you don't have to share the cab with the engine when it comes through the firewall.
Eu brakes cut the fuel to all.
So US trucks built for power and space? So why are european trucks more powerful? Volvo FH16 and Scania 770 haves 770 hp. European trucks are so far a head over US Trucks in every way.
Yeah I was wondering about that too...
We need more power because we have to climb hills and mountains more often than US trucks and at average they are a good bit steeper. Plus European trucks have to slow down and stop more often and accelerate more often. Especially in areas with lots of hills and tight corners it adds up positively pretty quickly when you have one of the more powerfull engines. Or long runs over mountains like when we drove from Germany to Italy during my childhood. It was kinda crazy how much distance our Scania (stock 420hp, tuned to guessed around 540-550hp) gained over the Brenner pass on trucks that came with 420-500hp from the factory.
An average truck in Europe still uses 400-530 hp engines, owner operators in the US 500-650 hp. What's the point of having 770 hp engines for daily driving unless you are indeed in mountainous areas or pulling heavy weights like in Sweden/Finland. US trucks can still modify the engine or put in a bigger engine like a Caterpillar C18 with 900 hp when needed and which is often used in Australia/Canada.
@@carsten8850 keep wondering
Do you guys think every Scania is the 770? Be interesting to know what percentage of Scania sold in Europe or even the world are actually the 770.
Where is Iveco?
I quite agree. We operated Ivecos for years, ending up a few years ago with a Stralis 540hp rated at 44 tonnes gross. Excellent truck!
I like the iconic nose design but in Europe those trucks are too big and trucks need to be versatile
max lenth for trailers is 53 ft not 48 get your facts right
34 meter in Denmark.
With special permit on special selected routes.......
American class 8 trucks went away from cabover for several reasons American cabover trucks weren't comfortable with drivers having to climb in and out with the step being directly over the front steer tires the ride was horrible and stiff drivers complained back and knees problems associated with them, #2 the thin sheet metal layer in front of the cab didn't provide any protection in case of a front end collision driver surviving was very low, # 3 tilting cabs for accessibility to engine compartment, many mechanics suffered injuries and even death when underneath cab servicing the engine and tilting cab mechanisms failed and cabs came down crushing mechanics, #4 in later years not sure about which government agency EPA, DOT, NHSC, decided these trucks where not Aerodynamic and was like a flat door meeting the wind head on causing resistance = using more fuel to propell the truck forward,
@WilliamHarmon-x8n, European cabovers are completely different to their American counterparts, I suggest you Watch a few Bruce Wilson videos he has just imported a Next-Gen Scania into the USA as an ambassador for Scania, you will certainly find it informative, and help you realise how advanced European trucks are compared to American trucks.
@davidjames990 Sir I am totally aware that European cabovers and American cabover trucks are as different as night and day no matter how much technically superior they are engineered American truckers will not purchase them in mass if at all American truckers for the most part love long hood conventionals that is something Scania MAN and other European semi truck manufacturers realize the best thing European truck manufacturers could possibly do is team up a American truck manufacturer peterbilt, kenworth freightliner, mack westernstar etc etc, and discuss possibly engine technology or even competing with Cummins or Detroit for accessibility to the American market since the exit of Catapillar, instead trying to compete head to head in the American market. And yes I'm familiar with Bruce Wilson's channel.
Yeah, American cabovers were awful because American trucks are... well awful really.
@@WilliamHarmon-x8n Please note: almost all of the US semi builders are owned by European companies, so they know how to build a US truck. It is simply to expensive to put the mandated extras in from Europe, as they would need to recertify them in the US, due to US law nonsense.
Another point to make. in the UK, we run on 6 axles, and run at 44 metric tonnes, compared to the US which runs at 36 metric tonnes.
@@davidjames990 One thing you don't know is that 80,000 lbs is federal law and is mostly used by Eastern and Southern states. The Western and Some states from the Midwest have their own weight laws, with 25 states. Just like in Montana, we have a 28-foot tractor with a 53-foot, four-axle trailer that hauls 142,000 lbs That's just in Montana, because other states have their own weight laws, except for states that use federal law
Federal limit is 36tons but other states have even higher. Canada (with the same setup as US trucks) are allowed to haul 53.5 metric tons
@@PhisitJenakkarkul, so as I understand it you run at some higher weights yet you have issues with overweight axles yet you don't run tri-axles as standard as we do in Europe and the UK why not?
@davidjames990 Not using 3 axles? Bro, in the US, 2 axle trailers are mostly used in the eastern and southern states. Only a few eastern and southern states have a weight limit above federal law, such as New York, Florida, Maine, Michigan, Most of them are 3 axle trailers, like in Michigan you have 11 axles Turnpike Doubles weighing 164,000 lbs, While in the western states and the Midwest, the Super B 8 axles has a maximum weight of 63,500 kg
@@PhisitJenakkarkul, you are missing my point, we have 45 ft trailers as standard in Europe and the UK and we rarely have problems with overweight axles, whereas your trailers are a little bit longer and run mainly two axles, the point I'm trying to make is that it would make more sense to have three axles as standard which then would mean a less likely chance of being overweight on your axle limits
Big difference is that it takes American trucks 5-8 business days to come to a full stop after the brakes are applied.
😂😂😂😂😂😂yup! And the driver with the as$@ tight... plus with 20 ayes open just like a fly cuz they can't see shi% around😂
@@LuXuZ You'll fly through the glass after using the emergency brakes on an American truck. You're inexperienced, little kid
@@PhisitJenakkarkul You underestimate the braking power of european trucks. Yet, im the one inexperienced? Okay, buddy.
@@LuXuZ Did I underestimate the braking power of European trucks? When did I mention it? If you could post all of this, it's you who underestimates the other mileage, and you certainly lack experience with American trucks
2019 freightliner cascadia, uses the same braking system that euro semis use,I have tested on nevada highways.
Gen Z so stupid from the 60s thru 1980's we in America used the Flat nosed Tractors then 90s on some chose the Peterbilt Regional while mostly short haulers still love Peterbilt CabOver.
And some Eurooean trailers have self-tracking axles t o reduce tyre scrum & increase turning and axle lifts to save on tyre ware & reduce drag. not noticed in the US. Incdently the old tilt trailers are now quite rare, curtain siders having taken over. Final point European trucks look modern, US..........not so
The ones in Europe (small heavy trailers) cause alot of wear and tear on the roads. An american 53'/16.20m semi-trailer is much better stretched out on the roads.
It's also more comfortable to drive a longer trailer with two axles than the ones in Europe with 3 axles and 13.6 m long.
But everything regarding trucks is awful in Europe, like what you mentioned and super single's all due to budget
I love ETS2 more than I love ATS.
who cares what you play after fortnite, league of legends and so on
What about Africa 😢
Most of country in africa use European truck!
sem-eye NOT sem-ee
Australian truckies be like “aw, that’s cute.”
I prefer American trucks.
😂😂 and i love European Trucks. More power, more Comfort and more Safety
you are crazy haha
More power.. Only Scania/Volvo with a few models, americans still have other engines like a Caterpillar C18 with 900 hp
Comfort.. Which comfort? american trucks are more comfortable and have more interior space, all comfort european trucks have were already there in the 1990s, like climate control/air suspension/leather seats. Nice... driving 85 km/h all day long on the autobahn with your OBU toll and digital tachograph and all other people in Europe making fun of you.
Safety? yes lane assist and emergency braking and speedlimit sign recognition... yes because your truck drivers can't drive that well
@@4_SJR You're an idiot based on other comments from you, only writing them just because you hate the US in generally
@@martinws8416 yes sorry I was too drunk
Great video 👍 The conclusion is American trucks are built to a price the drivers is treated like every other American worker like garbage.In Europe truck's are developed for efficiency and comfort as the drivers are treated with value of a human being 😮
Load of bs, I've noticed most anti-US comments are from brits like you (mr. Sean R.@bigbird2100) and because the jealousy of the USA in generally and try to criticize everything what comes from the US. I know it's hard when your former colonies Canada/Australia/the US are more wealthier and prosperous than the UK is now and the fact the UK is now USA's little brother.
It's the other way round. In Europe you can't drive more than 9 hours a day, you have a smart digital-tachograph which can be read out from distance on an overpass, do a small infriction and you end up getting heavy fines both for yourself and the company (even worse when you are an owner operator), you have many countries that force truckdrivers to pay toll with an OBU thing with gps-signals you have to plug in on the windscreen, stuck in your tiny cabins while you can't drive faster than 50-56 mph.
In the US you have much more freedom, you can travel as fast as normal traffic which is 65- even 80 mph in some states, you can drive up to 11hrs a day and the services for truck drivers is also much better. In the US truckers are considered as essential.
You just have a bad reputation in the UK, holding up the fast lane and people doesn't respect ''lorry drivers'' as much like semi-truck drivers in Canada/USA.
Just a cabover..first on the accident scene first crushed 😅
Yes, if Americans built it.
You're talking about American cabovers
The important thing is not to arrive first, but to get out alive, that's the difference, in the American you die, in the European you live.
If you can only go 56mph, it doesn't matter as much.
European trucks are used all over the world, I see you don't understand that, in Turkey it is common to see them going up to 100mph with 40 metric tons, in Australia we all go at 60 approx, in Brazil 75\80...
There is coming new scania r 1000 2025 and has even more hp. So this is true by so far but wait a new scania to come out. If it aint Scania i am not interested. I am Scania driver for life.
I prefer European trucks, more practical, and easier to handle
No wonder as you're someone from the Netherlands/Belgium with tiny streets and roads
Im australian and I prefer european trucks and I wish I was born in europe matee I love tiny things because Im a tiny person
Good video, good information, but very annoying and loud background music!
Buzzer. Wrong American trailers are 53 feet in length flatbed trailers may continue taking on the 48 foot length but most of them there in different lengths anywhere from 48 to 60 feet depending on the type of trailer you pick
And speed limits vary from state to state anywhere from 45 mph the minimum speed on interstates to 80 mph in some states
And you forget the other popular American diesel engine Caterpillar legendary for it. It’s high torque output.
Caterpillar no longer sells engines for on-road trucks, only off-road, unless they changed their tune recently.
Euro ones are better, anyways.😂
@@jesusgonzalez6751 they aren't ''Jesus'' from Mexico 😂
I'm missing some big european players in your video, like IVECO or RENAULT...
Not important enough 😂
@@martinws8416 you arent important either hahahah
@@jeroenvandenbos4903 Just put on your smelly cheesy clogs and drive away, while holding everybody up in your DAF or whatever tiny euro truck with 1 rear axle overtaking another truck at slow speed
I was surprised to hear European trucks are more comfortable to drive than US trucks. I believed the long wheel base of the American would transmit to a more comfortable ride. As is the case with cars. Are the Europeans utilizing black magic?
Just good engineering. Watch the videos of Bruce Wilson and his Sania COE in the USA - The surprised comments of other truck drivers when they try it out.
It's called bias. Learn to ignore it.
@@NewmanAttack its called air bags maybe, american brands should level up there game
@@nikolabacvanski3372 American trucks had already airsuspension before european trucks had them. American trucks had already all luxury like Climate Control/Air suspension/leather seats/big interiors.
But who are you to say? you're from Czech Republic or Slovakia or so.... back in the time you only had TATA/Kamaz trucks. Trucking in central-Europe is the worst place to be a truck driver in.. with digital toll, extremely strictly regulations and extremely boring roads/view as well
@@martinws8416 No, im from Serbia....in 60's and 70's we had mack, ford and freightliner and all europeans brands... even than people did talk bad about american trucks. Bad roads europe have best roads/views in the world....Norway, Swiss alps in Italy toscana and much more, u know there is a reason why european truck are used around the world , and american just in usa and australia.. they look very nice, but they are not that andvanced .
Sorry, but HMD Trucking should try and actually DRIVE an European truck (semi? whaaaat? - Semi means "half", like your pickup trucks, they are semi (half) trucks you really can't get that right? hahaha :D)
Eurotrucks are the best!
They aren't.
Not mentioned is that a truck with trailer in the EU is maxed out to 80 kph, no matter the speed limit, a heavy truck alone can go 90 kph.
And in Sweden where i live the max weight of a semi clocks in over 155,000lbs or 72 tons without special permit, now not all roads allow that but more and more do.
That's what it is in Sweden not in the rest of the EU, the speedlimit is still 90 km/h for trucks in France, Belgium, Ireland, UK (97 km/h) and some countries in eastern Europe.
At least here in the US we drive trucks that look like trucks not like a box!
At least our boxes look unique and are easily distinguishable from each other. They haven't all ripped off the same blueprint. European trucks are safer (generally), more fuel efficient, have more driver comforts, more power, better transmissions, better ergonomics, better brakes, and the list goes on. Everything you see in your trucks now was probably developed here 10-15 years ago. Though it usually gets fucked up by the time it ends up in an American truck because the junk has to be built in America. And therein lies the problem.
I have a saying: "Why buy American when you can get Swedish or German for same price but twice the quality, or Chinese for half price and same quality?"
@@tntfreddan3138ngl they both follow generic design types. Every us truck looks like a dog head and every European truck looks like a box.
I just wanna say that you guys can’t compete when it comes down to actually making a useful car (like a truck or suv). A traverse would be 10x more practical that a gls or x7
you don't know anything about trucks hahaha
@4_SJR hey your right I've been running over the road for 50 years
@@Cowboy1957 That doesn't make you know about trucks, you can be ignorant all your life and not know it... If you've never left the United States in your life you know absolutely nothing about trucks and this is told to you by someone who is now in Australia and drives all kinds of trucks.
The last few years the European automakers they're destroyer 😢 it's moving up of China automakers companies 😅😅😅
EUROPEE YESSSSSS
European and Japanese cars are much better than USA cars. It follows that trucks are also much better.
However, we copy their absurd trucks, pickups and SUVs.
No. European trucks aren't better, they're heavily regulated take for example an average Iveco, DAF, Mercedes, MAN. The only thing european trucks have (required by the EU) are stupid safety systems like lane assist, emergency assist, speedlimit detection, smart digital tachograph
@@martinws8416, how can safety systems be stupid, they are called safety systems for a reason they protect the driver, look how many US truck drivers are killed in collisions compared to those from Europe and the UK, we clearly have a much better chance of surviving a crash, even though we are in cabovers.
@@davidjames990 You don't. The only reason why you survive more in the UK is because your roads are heavily congested so less moving traffic and you live in the most populated country (mentioning England itself, not the whole UK) so more possibilities for medical services and so on. There are many less populated areas in the US which may even take hours to arrive for medical assistance. Driving in many parts of the US/Canada and Australia is just more of a risk because of this.
Picked the worst looking European truck for the thumbnail
Which European semi-truck do you consider the prettiest?
@@hmdtrucking there’s no answer to that but there’s an incredible truck customisation culture in Europe. Look up Holland style trucks
This video isn't about customization. BTW, several customized European trucks featured in this video.
SCANIA❤❤❤
@@CameronDamons-c7s overrated
im a DAF guy but the new Volvo's look the best
Get a narator that can actually pronounce words properly
😂American truck 😂
Because Erupean roads are senisble
No because european roads are tight and tiny.
@@martinws8416 yea sensible no stroads there or atleast not as many
You forget about safety and tech in general. American trucks are 10 years behind....
With every year USA is turning more and more in to a theme park. I don’t know how many times people come back from the states with pictures of American “solutions”. TH-cam is full of comparison videos, and USA is always retro.
Do you have any examples of these "solutions" you speak of?
Where are the European equivalents of Microsoft, Dell, Google, NVIDIA, Apple, Oracle, Tesla, Lucid, Rivian...? What the hell are you talking about?
@@chickenfishhybrid44 He (jonhroarulstad557) is from Norway, they are kinda arrogant and cold people in generally; very introvert and not even holding the door open for eachother or greeting eachother. The only thing that made the country rich was the revenue from gas and oil.
They are so hypocritical when they talk about CO2 and try to get everyone to buy an electric car while their main exports are indeed from gas and oil.
EU trucks are betters, while American trucks are .... well .... bigger
Not so.. European trucks break down very often, everyday there's congestion on the highways/motorways because a truck broke down and needs to be towed away
@@martinws8416 Just like everywhere else in the world Asian US trucks do
@@r11tc EURO trucks aren't comfortable to stay in for too long. They only got safety systems (that already exists in the US) like lane assist/emergency braking assist (which often fails), speedlimit assist. All annoying things that are required by the EU but not by Owner Operators.
@@martinws8416 You sound like someone who newer drove EU truck, you're pulling things from ceiling. Some trips takes weeks here in EU and drivers aren't complaining about comfort. DAF XG+ has big cabin for your reference.
@@r11tc Oh wow... Daf XG+ that's soo big... 😅 US trucks have much better space at the rear where they can stand, sit on a table without the need to be in the passengers seat.
It's not that great here for trucking, the salary for someone from western Europe is about 3000eur for international trucking... even someone who works at the HR of a company earns more and he/she is home every afternoon.
I do live here in the EU I know trucks and the regulations. I wanted to become one but just didn't wanted anymore after all these rules from the EU and other regulations from other countries.
It's just so nice being in your small cabin, driving at..... 85 km/h on average (even 60 km/h on B-roads in Germany...) while you have a smart-digital tachograph attached to the truck and in which they can see what you have done so far in every 45 seconds (go over your 9hr drive-time and risk a 2000eur fine in Spain/France) Don't forget your (mandatory) several tollbox-OBU's for some countries on your front windshield (attached to the cigarette lighter) to pay toll which works via GPS data....... oh and don't forget the full parking spots and sunday driving bans in alot of countries like Germany/France/Czech Republic/Austria/Switzerland and others
Yank trucks are prehistoric, weak and tiny in comparison to Euro trucks
Yep - your are right. Only crocodiles and Peterbilt's have survived the dinosaurs😁
Bri'ish innit maytt, seems like someone still can't have it the fact former UK colony got independence in 1776 and is for centuries stronger and wealthier than the UK ever was and in fact the UK is now USA's little brother.
Your average EU truck-trailer combination is just 16.5m long, american semi-truck/trailer combination about 22-23 meters.
The average salary for truck drivers in the UK max $ 30.000 and USA from $ 60.000 to over 100k USD.
@ yeah boy, but! Yank truck still weak hauling 35 tons at 400 bhp🤣 and btw I’m English not British so your British bullshitery don’t wash brother…. You crack on living in the dark ages 💪🏼
@@AdamMcCool-01 American trucks already had 600 hp (Cummins KTA) about 50 years ago while Scania only had 375hp 5 years after that 😂, there is also the Caterpillar C18 engine with 900 hp when needed.
You actually live in the stoneages with your food covered in newspapers.. Euro trucks still have only 400/450 hp-530hp on average, american trucks had this figure 30 years ago already and even up to 600. There is also the Caterpillar C18 engine with 900 hp when needed.and bad small narrow roads and boring ''motorways'' with trucks being limited to 56 mph and cars only 70. Trucks are allowed to go the same speed of cars which is between 65-80 mph depends on state. The truckstops and services in the US/Canada/Australia are much better than any of these in Europe.
Trucks are just a slow pain in the as# in Europe and finding the right amount of parking spot seems as well trouble.
Ironic thing is the fact you have a profile picture with the UK flag but you want to be called English and don't want to be associated with being ''british''
I'm not even from the US but the US is always better than the UK at things, for example the Gulf War (led by the US ofcourse 🇺🇸) was called ''Operation Desert Storm'' the UK had ''Operation Desert Slow''
@ 🤣👍🏻 keep on keeping on brother 🫤🙏🏼❤️🙄