Did my first time effort of gluing tubulars to my front and rear wheels using Mastic Pro. Only required one coat of glue to the rim and one to the tyre base tape, which is different to what others seem to do. It went reasonably well except for the glue getting onto the rim side walls and breaking surfaces. Contrary to what the instructions say its impossible to wash off the glue with water, did the best I could but it looks messy. Didn't like the applicator tubes, next time I'll buy a tub of glue instead. All in all I'm quite happy with my effort, can't wait to try them out in a couple of days. Hopefully the tubulars will stay on! :))
I just bought a pair of Mavic rims with Vittoria sew-ups. I can't wait to try them and see what all the fuss is about. Old School Rules! Steel bikes only!
As you can see the rims are already layered with glue.. Two to 3 coats recommended. It is very very important the the tire is also prepped with at least one layer of dry Glue before doing what he is doing. If this is the case then he did it right..
Those glues have solvents that migrate straight through the skin into the bloodstream. The warnings on the label are no joke, I've known two guys who handled solvents like that and have died of cancer.
@@dddzzzdddzzz no worries, they should have shown a close up of the product. If you look closely you can see the mechanic is squeezing it out of a plastic container, not a tube like the regular solvent-based Mastik.
Bare hands using the solvent-soaked rag to clean the rim and to apply the glue. These toluene/xylene solvents go right through your skin and damage your liver. Sure, using a brush and gloves doesn’t make the job easier, but cancer really sucks.
@tzed2509 You should view the 1995 World Road Cycling Championships where Abraham Olano rides to victory on a flat rear tubular tire for the final kilometer. But for his sewups, he would not have won. Teams such as Trek Sagefredo and Lidl-Trek are returning to tubular for the riders' safety. See Cycling weekly dated February 25, 2024.
They cut slighly used.tubulars in two to be sure that nobody pick them up in the trash can.... They are still good for 3000km ... I have seen that before even for amateur teams in france ... Not very good mentality those days....
Yeah, probably the tyre manufacturers explicitly ask them to do so in order to make sure nobody gets any freebies. At least they could re-sell them for half or quarter price or give them away to less fortunate teams.
@@11robotics Yes, I am sure about that. If they change tires so often then its going to take a lot of time removing them without destroying them. The work load in world tour races for team mechanics is huge.
@@11robotics... that's why they are so expensive ! The pro teams get them probably for free (as sponsoring), and finally someone has to pay = we !!! ... On the other hand, pure waste and polution (plastics/polution/glue/etc...) ... and that's again "we" paying at the end !!! So, conclusion, need to start "green" company manufacturing "green" top quality tubulars ... e.g. Wout Van Aert Worldchampion CycloCross Bieles (Luxembourg) 2017 - REALLY MAGIC & GREEN !!!
Probably you don't use high end tubulars. I need no adjustment when using Vitoria Corsa Speed or Tufo Elite Ride. Minor adjustements when using Continental Gatorskin. Best regards, Cristian
Xcellent, as an old guy l have alway ridden tubulars except 4 the last few yrs . (3) yrs Clinchers as l am sick & tired of gluing the tubulars on the rims . When l have a spare moment l am going 2 remove the glue ( days of work ) & use tape . No clincher rides as well as a tubular. Hope they remain in the Pro peleton ranks .
I noticed that too - He must be using the Magic Mastik. Even still, it still would take me 2x the time - especially mounting the tire/keeping the thread straight
he is Dutch and even on professional race, they make sure they dont spend too much... this really proves how they are, even when they dont pay themselves lol
6 minutes...wow! I take more like an hour to mount the damn things. And then they're not as straight as this guy's. And somehow I always manage to get glue on the braking surfaces and need to clean that off, and.... :-)
Really lmao I do this all the time to my old edge carbon tubulas. Your just scraping the surface not agressivly. 9 years strong and still perfect. So maybe don't be such a baby over your equipment
Yes, for Mastik Pro glue, one layer on the tyre, and let dry until on the dry side of 'tacky'. Then one thin layer on the rim and mount the tire. If you don't let it dry enough on the tyre, it's liquidy/slippery enough to slide right off the rim as you try to stretch it onto the rim that still has liquidy glue. It can be very messy, especially if you use too much of the glue -- the blister packs hold enough to do a pair of cyclocross rims. Another thing to note that I never got from the printed instructions or the official Mastik Pro video is to put more than enough glue on the rim, BUT use your thumb to create a uniform and thin layer in the rim center/sides, and push a bead of excess glue onto the boundary between well and brake track. Then mount the tire, and smush the bead of excess glue back in to seal the tire/rim interface. You can use extra glue to coat the sidewalls if you like. My initial mistake was to use all the glue (way too much), not let that on the tyre dry enough, and not thin the layer on the rim with my thumb as this mechanic did -- it was a mess for me. Lesson learned!
What riding 80 psi against 100 - 160 psi l dont think so . I ride my clinchers at 125 psi & my tubulars at 145 psi . Wouldn't waste my ⏰⏰ riding on 80 psi. Specialized ( Roval pulled out of tubeless 4 good reason ) just hype.
@@HeathyRoidz maybe 10 years ago. today a well made tubular tape is just as strong if not stronger. I used to be able to remove glued tires with relative ease on side of the rode. Taped tires are a lot harder to remove. Also the 2 different brands of tape I use come off the rim almost spotless. Super clean to install / take off.
Gurk E wrong. If you were able to easily remove a glued tubular, then it wasn’t glued properly. Glue is superior especially under heat, heavy braking, and heavy cornering. The adhesive on tape is nowhere near as strong after curing as glue.
Ok this thing does NOT come off with water.. Slipped a tub off the rim when trying to mount it (my fault) and touched the still damp glue on the rim.. Made a total mess, glue everywhere, put the wheel in the bathtub, rubbed it with a sponge plentynof water and laudry detergent and there is STILL a lot of glue on the wheel.... Hope it will scrub off once dry otherwise I will never ever buy something labeled vittoria. Sorry but it just doesn't work like in the instructions. Dropped some small amount on the floor (tiles) and no way it came out with water and a towel. Had to rub like crazy to get it off, what a nightmare that was..
the glued used in the video isn't the normal latex vittoria glue, which is hard to come off like you have described. The glue used in the video is their newer and more expensive product called Magic Mastik. It washes off with water.
As a former team mechanic & professional mechanic for 35 years i'm shocked that Vittoria feel this very poor mechanic is a good source to make such content. I can assure you this was poor. Many of todays younger mechanics are, compared to real mechanics of the past.
Glue tape adds 5w more rolling resistance per wheel at 40kph. This is a complex subject. easy mounting is not the only consideration. especially for professional racing.
Did my first time effort of gluing tubulars to my front and rear wheels using Mastic Pro. Only required one coat of glue to the rim and one to the tyre base tape, which is different to what others seem to do. It went reasonably well except for the glue getting onto the rim side walls and breaking surfaces. Contrary to what the instructions say its impossible to wash off the glue with water, did the best I could but it looks messy. Didn't like the applicator tubes, next time I'll buy a tub of glue instead. All in all I'm quite happy with my effort, can't wait to try them out in a couple of days. Hopefully the tubulars will stay on! :))
I just bought a pair of Mavic rims with Vittoria sew-ups. I can't wait to try them and see what all the fuss is about. Old School Rules! Steel bikes only!
As you can see the rims are already layered with glue.. Two to 3 coats recommended. It is very very important the the tire is also prepped with at least one layer of dry Glue before doing what he is doing. If this is the case then he did it right..
It's Vittoria's Mastik Pro, different methods
Those glues have solvents that migrate straight through the skin into the bloodstream.
The warnings on the label are no joke, I've known two guys who handled solvents like that and have died of cancer.
They shouldve covered all their expose skin then.
It's Mastik Pro, Vittoria's water-based non-flammable glue
Four years on and… I stand corrected!
Thanks for the enlightenment.
@@dddzzzdddzzz no worries, they should have shown a close up of the product. If you look closely you can see the mechanic is squeezing it out of a plastic container, not a tube like the regular solvent-based Mastik.
He made it look so easy
Im here only to listen Rage Against the Machine
Bare hands using the solvent-soaked rag to clean the rim and to apply the glue. These toluene/xylene solvents go right through your skin and damage your liver. Sure, using a brush and gloves doesn’t make the job easier, but cancer really sucks.
😮Now ya tell me ,I've been sniffing glue for nearly 50 years 😅
Actually it's Vittoria's water-based Mastic Pro LOL
Oh no! You mean the pros use those anachronistic sewups/tubulars instead of the silly af tubeless/sealant ones?
@@gerade-aus you saw the date this video was posted, right?
@tzed2509 You should view the 1995 World Road Cycling Championships where Abraham Olano rides to victory on a flat rear tubular tire for the final kilometer. But for his sewups, he would not have won. Teams such as Trek Sagefredo and Lidl-Trek are returning to tubular for the riders' safety. See Cycling weekly dated February 25, 2024.
Sniffing Vittoria Mastik'One Professional glue with Rage Against The Machine background musica rocks !!
Jajajaja
It's Mastic Pro, Vittoria's water-based non-flammable glue
Love the lyrics at 4.29. Thats what I say when tub gluing is going badly
4:39 VOLBEAT 🖤
the pro's make it look effortless which it is not
How come there is no copy right infringement 🤷🏻♂️😅
They cut slighly used.tubulars in two to be sure that nobody pick them up in the trash can....
They are still good for 3000km ...
I have seen that before even for amateur teams in france ...
Not very good mentality those days....
Yeah, probably the tyre manufacturers explicitly ask them to do so in order to make sure nobody gets any freebies. At least they could re-sell them for half or quarter price or give them away to less fortunate teams.
@@11robotics Probably it takes a lot more time to remove them without destroying them.
@@mvkatesvfc is that why they literally cut down every single one of them with scissors before throwing them to the bin?
@@11robotics Yes, I am sure about that. If they change tires so often then its going to take a lot of time removing them without destroying them. The work load in world tour races for team mechanics is huge.
@@11robotics... that's why they are so expensive ! The pro teams get them probably for free (as sponsoring), and finally someone has to pay = we !!! ... On the other hand, pure waste and polution (plastics/polution/glue/etc...) ... and that's again "we" paying at the end !!! So, conclusion, need to start "green" company manufacturing "green" top quality tubulars ... e.g. Wout Van Aert Worldchampion CycloCross Bieles (Luxembourg) 2017 - REALLY MAGIC & GREEN !!!
How can you get a tubular perfectly straight on the rim in one go? Mine always needs manual adjustment to get somewhat straight.
Probably you don't use high end tubulars. I need no adjustment when using Vitoria Corsa Speed or Tufo Elite Ride. Minor adjustements when using Continental Gatorskin. Best regards, Cristian
try to do it 50 times/day like this mate
Yeah, best music in background VOLBEAT
Best job dude!!! 👍🏻
Xcellent, as an old guy l have alway ridden tubulars except 4 the last few yrs . (3) yrs Clinchers as l am sick & tired of gluing the tubulars on the rims . When l have a spare moment l am going 2 remove the glue ( days of work ) & use tape . No clincher rides as well as a tubular. Hope they remain in the Pro peleton ranks .
i glued my first colle over 30 y ago. the glue was red brown i think.
I think he is using the "new" Vittoria Magic Mastik glue. It is not the "usual" way to glue on tubulars.
only one layer of glue on the rim?
I noticed that too - He must be using the Magic Mastik. Even still, it still would take me 2x the time - especially mounting the tire/keeping the thread straight
It wasn't a brand new wheel. You can see him remove old glue residue before he glued the rim up.
he is Dutch and even on professional race, they make sure they dont spend too much... this really proves how they are, even when they dont pay themselves lol
th-cam.com/video/uSY5X__Xnkw/w-d-xo.html HOW DO IT PROPERLY
@@rsg1682 That's more than enough if you are only doing road biking.. CX racing however requires at least 3 layers
6 minutes...wow! I take more like an hour to mount the damn things. And then they're not as straight as this guy's. And somehow I always manage to get glue on the braking surfaces and need to clean that off, and.... :-)
Love the lifer thumb action. F those plumber brushes... get in there with with your thumb son!
was there glue on the tire?
Is it easy to dismantle it again?
Great soundtrack
Great tyre for downhill mtb 🤠🤟
Bao nhiêu tiền 2 cái lốp vậy ông ?
Hoeveelste laag was dat die je erop smeerde?
opaaaa!? não teria que passar uma lixinha, no pneu e no aro? para depois colocar o pneu!
Che lavoro!
Great job!
What wheel are ? Corima ?
Shimano Durace
I would never take a swiss knife to peel my c40´s... I guess it´s easy when you have a couple of dozen pairs of team rims supplied by shimano.
Really lmao I do this all the time to my old edge carbon tubulas. Your just scraping the surface not agressivly. 9 years strong and still perfect. So maybe don't be such a baby over your equipment
Did the rider roll?
Weed?
did they use tape to cover the spoke holes?
No they did not. For a tubular wheel, like the one used, it is not a requirement to use rim tape to cover the spoke holes.
vittoria so just one layer on the tyre too?
Yes, for Mastik Pro glue, one layer on the tyre, and let dry until on the dry side of 'tacky'. Then one thin layer on the rim and mount the tire. If you don't let it dry enough on the tyre, it's liquidy/slippery enough to slide right off the rim as you try to stretch it onto the rim that still has liquidy glue. It can be very messy, especially if you use too much of the glue -- the blister packs hold enough to do a pair of cyclocross rims. Another thing to note that I never got from the printed instructions or the official Mastik Pro video is to put more than enough glue on the rim, BUT use your thumb to create a uniform and thin layer in the rim center/sides, and push a bead of excess glue onto the boundary between well and brake track. Then mount the tire, and smush the bead of excess glue back in to seal the tire/rim interface. You can use extra glue to coat the sidewalls if you like. My initial mistake was to use all the glue (way too much), not let that on the tyre dry enough, and not thin the layer on the rim with my thumb as this mechanic did -- it was a mess for me. Lesson learned!
@@ericpmoss your comment is more informative than the video is.
A little amateur-ish for my liking. Using his thumb to apply the glue?
What about the 3 layers of glue (and please let each layer almost dry) to the rim AND to the base tape before mounting?😅 Is that not necessary?🤔
For cyclocross it is often necessary, but not for road use.
@@Thomas_Ekstrom Right mate!
This doesn't look too much like a ritual. It must be some kind of new fangled method.
never touch glue with hands
nice background music... :) :) :)
Wheel was well out of balance before fitting of tyre.
Volbeat music, approved!
that guy was obviously hired for his thumbs
It's all about the tools!
It looks like wheels are just disposables... i cant see me scratching rims like that.... patience and solvent :)
When will pros start using tubeless? Better all round for especially for the mechanics!
Tubeless tubulars? :thinking:
Burping air under hard cornering in a low air volume tyre? Nah, no thanks!
Never.
Nothing bit tubulars!
They won't, tubulars are a superior system and lighter.
What riding 80 psi against 100 - 160 psi l dont think so . I ride my clinchers at 125 psi & my tubulars at 145 psi . Wouldn't waste my ⏰⏰ riding on 80 psi. Specialized ( Roval pulled out of tubeless 4 good reason ) just hype.
Six minutes to show why I still use clinchers and tubes ?
No glue, don’t need to be an expert to mount them and my conti gators last FOREVER
Pls song
Oh no! You mean the pros use sewups instead of those ridiculously messy tubeless tires?
we changed for over 30years from cole to tube and now the reverse? No problems with crooked valves?
Nice job.
But I prefer glue tape. Super strong and super easy, no mess.
oscar l. Glue is stronger
@@HeathyRoidz maybe 10 years ago. today a well made tubular tape is just as strong if not stronger. I used to be able to remove glued tires with relative ease on side of the rode. Taped tires are a lot harder to remove. Also the 2 different brands of tape I use come off the rim almost spotless. Super clean to install / take off.
Gurk E wrong. If you were able to easily remove a glued tubular, then it wasn’t glued properly. Glue is superior especially under heat, heavy braking, and heavy cornering. The adhesive on tape is nowhere near as strong after curing as glue.
E F false. you clearly haven’t used good tape. please comeback after trying both like i did. good luck
Tubulars are pain in the A- -
Ok this thing does NOT come off with water.. Slipped a tub off the rim when trying to mount it (my fault) and touched the still damp glue on the rim.. Made a total mess, glue everywhere, put the wheel in the bathtub, rubbed it with a sponge plentynof water and laudry detergent and there is STILL a lot of glue on the wheel.... Hope it will scrub off once dry otherwise I will never ever buy something labeled vittoria. Sorry but it just doesn't work like in the instructions. Dropped some small amount on the floor (tiles) and no way it came out with water and a towel. Had to rub like crazy to get it off, what a nightmare that was..
the glued used in the video isn't the normal latex vittoria glue, which is hard to come off like you have described. The glue used in the video is their newer and more expensive product called Magic Mastik. It washes off with water.
Kalashnikov Cortez I used exactly what they are using, the package looks identical
@Ed Whitebone no? no what?
True, I don't know why he used the water. Interesting?
like a gusto
rage against the machine 😍😍😍
Bravi i meccanici ma il bi adesivo è più pratico non sporca ed è più sicuro del mastice.
tyre bounce no doubt
As a former team mechanic & professional mechanic for 35 years i'm shocked that Vittoria feel this very poor mechanic is a good source to make such content. I can assure you this was poor. Many of todays younger mechanics are, compared to real mechanics of the past.
😳😳😳
Rage against the machine 😍
mechanics favorite
team owners hate it
“Fuck you I won’t do what you tell me”
lololo,,, 01:19 shits happendssssssss.. +10!
No.........
sorry 4.19
RATM
L
rage against ... nice
The best system to mount tubulars is a glue tape,fast and clean.
Glue tape adds 5w more rolling resistance per wheel at 40kph. This is a complex subject. easy mounting is not the only consideration. especially for professional racing.
@@berthull9333 Right mate! Exactly.
Not impressed at all ...