This note is to let others who may be considering tubular tyres know about my experience. I have always struggled with tubeless tires my MTB and even more with clinchers & inner tubes on my road bike. I was expecting something similar or worse from tubulars. However, I cannot believe how easy they are to fit and remove, particularly when used with the adhesive tape. I replayed this video a few times because I thought I must have missed a step because it was too easy. The most significant difference for me was just how easy it is to get the tyres over the rim (no tyre levers or sore thumbs needed). My first set of tubular tyres had a slow leak, so after a few weeks I removed them and refitted a new set (the same brand but a different model), and again it was super-easier. Maybe I have been very lucky, but so far these are far & away the easiest type of tyres I've ever fitted or removed from a bike. And, I no longer carry a spare inner tube, tyre levels or a pump; just a light-weight can of tyre Vittoria Pit Stop (don't know if it works, because I haven't had a flat yet).
I like how all the difficult and critical parts of the process, the wheel is not visible, between his knees or facing him, so we can't see what he is doing.
ahall3823 The problem with tubulars is the time you need to clean out the glue, so tape is much faster however I have to warn you do not descents using tape. Always glue the tire properly to the rim specially if doing fast descents. For riding around in flat lands tape is safe and easier than glue. I prefer clinchers simply due to the easy installation and tube repair.
Hi Ben. I heard so many pros and against tubs tape. I do like concept of making tire change really fast and that has to be with tape. I would love to try your tape.
Loved the info on the video but it would be better to actually have your camera pointing more on the wheel while putting on the tape. It goes out of the picture when you have the wheel at your feet.
Hi Sir, please, Can you explain how to proceed when the tubular sticks on the road during the workout? I mean, should I take the old tape and apply a new one? Greeting from Brazil, Francisco.
hi i just seen your video, i have just brought a pair of corima tubular wheels and i am hoping you may have so sample tape left you can send me i live in the UK don't know if you supply the UK but it looks like a easy tape to use
Will this tape work for cyclocross tires? Also, can I use it on a rim which has previously been glued? I would be cleaning it thoroughly to get the excess glue off.
Hi from Texas. That tape doesn't look like the fabric tapes by tufo or veloflex. Would I be able to use it in conjunction with tub glue for cyclocross tires?
I would love to try to tape now. Would it be ok to install the tape on used tubular tire? Having some glue on tire I cleaned as much as I could, would tape still work in your opinion? Just afraid old sticky tire would not allow to peel the take.
Hi there, thanks for the video. I am "restoring" my nice road bike from 1981 (thank you Corona). I followed your instructions putting a 21 (?) mm Conti tire on the original aluminum rims. I got some Jantex tape (I could not find yours), I was a bit wary when I read good for two tires and I saw the cut off overlap used by your technique. In anticipation I saved the cut off pieces. (How can you tell how much extra tape is on the roll). Of course I was missing 3-4 inches :-( . Well I still managed, as I patched up the remaining gap and it worked out great. Can't wait for a test ride this evening. Greetings from California SL
After fixing the tubular tyre on the rim with glue, the excess base tape is exposing almost uniformly along the rim edges. However, the rubber tread pattern is not running really straight (slight left and right movement) when it rolls. I have tried to re-adjust the tyre while it is still freshly mounted but it is still the same. The rim was just trued too. Any idea this tread pattern not rolling perfectly straight is normal?
Hey I have questioned those new wheels Campagnolo Bora WTO .I do really like them but i heard some good thing about Tubeless and some really bad things about Tubeless. I do think Tubular tires just kick ass . .I Am currently riding older Bora one Tubular tires. feels amazing personally I do think there the best . . I Just want here your Opinion on those campagnolo WTO as far handling compared to Tubeless to tubular witch perform better overall..
How difficult is it to remove the tape to replace your tire. This is great I like what you are doing and would consider purchasing your product, however this is on a new tire. What is it like when you are replacing a used taped tire?
I hope you found an answer! But not hard at all to remove the tape. Same with the tubs, I remember removing a Tubi that was glued and one that was taped and both feel about the same force it is required to remove them off the rim
I don't get the reason for taping over the valve hole. And he says "you don't want any bonding surface" but the tape is bonding/sticky, so what's the idea? Set on repeat 5 times and now I get it: To be able to get a backing strip outside the rim, for pulling afterwards, WITHOUT exposing any sticky tape just beside the valve hole, you need to start before the holoe(not after as he says) to get some free backingtape to leave outside the rim.
Is this tape for carbon or aluminium surface? How is this safe? When braking, surface of carbon become really hot a tape then tear off, and then I'm dead underneath the car!
Hi, if I already put around 40ml/50ml of liquid sealant in my tubular tire and pumped them up to 90 psi, are my tires literally f*cked up? ;) I applied the liquid sealant when I installed the tires, I am using 25mm tufo hi composite carbon. I’ve done a couple of ride so far… I did this cos I heard it might help me sort out any future punctures …
You convinced me. And I hate you for it. My experience with tubulars has been horrible. I had to remove the old cement to be able to install them. That took several days of intensive labor. Then I had to shell out $200 for tires, $20 for rim tape, $20 for tire sealant. Then guess what happened. I got a puncture at the top of a hill. I had to walk my bike back 6 miles to where I could get reception to call someone to take me home, because you can't repair that shit on the road. Barefoot walk, because you can't walk in road shoes --> blisters on feet. And now I have to go through the process of replacing the tire again. And for all that work do you know how much faster I am? SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER actually. They climb slower, as the tape that adheres them to the rim FLEXES it off the rim as you crank the bike back and forth while climbing, resisting the motion and making climbing more labor intensive. To make matters worse, the extremely high pressures that I had to pump the tire to in order to keep it safely on the rim and prevent it from popping off in a hard corner on a downhill stretch make the bike extremely twitchy. I had never experienced death wobble until I ran tubbies, now I experience it every time I descend. It's terrifying. And because the tape flexes under the tire, when I try to corner at speed, such as on a descent, the tire resists the cornering motion. I replaced my front zipp 303 tubby with my old Easton SLX aluminum clincher and I took 1.5 minutes off a 10 minute climb and a full minute off the descent, no speed wobble. I have never been more dissappointed to have listened to a bunch of "experts"
Well said. And to that bunch of "experts" I'd add: many advocates from forums who believe the use of tubulars engenders a sense of superiority over everyone else.
I know this is 11 months late, but I've used and been recommended to Victorian Reubens. They also have the pro version, which are light, aka more prone to punctures. Hoped this help.😅
Believe it or not, went to a shop and they said we are old school, only glue as tape will last two rides!!!!!. Told them i was not interested...will do it myself and follow your video. If you still have some tape....:)
Hi Ben, I have purchased tub wheels not really knowing what I am doing! I am 6 months into cycling. Should I be put off buying the wheels because of my lack of experience? I am concerned about road punctures and replacing tyres, should I be? Watching your video has given me more confidence to say give it a go rather than cancel the order. What are your thoughts?
this stuff looks easy to bad i see this stuff 6 years to late would have loved to get a roll to try out my first set of tubes i realy dont look forward to playing around with glue
Oh I'm sorry. I mean I guess for an informative video we should have more whimsical music in the background, maybe some hooter girls holding pom poms jumping around and even some animation in place of real footage. Get real dude, this is exactly the best kinds of videos for people interested in learning more about how to fit tubular tires on with tape.
This note is to let others who may be considering tubular tyres know about my experience.
I have always struggled with tubeless tires my MTB and even more with clinchers & inner tubes on my road bike. I was expecting something similar or worse from tubulars. However, I cannot believe how easy they are to fit and remove, particularly when used with the adhesive tape. I replayed this video a few times because I thought I must have missed a step because it was too easy. The most significant difference for me was just how easy it is to get the tyres over the rim (no tyre levers or sore thumbs needed). My first set of tubular tyres had a slow leak, so after a few weeks I removed them and refitted a new set (the same brand but a different model), and again it was super-easier. Maybe I have been very lucky, but so far these are far & away the easiest type of tyres I've ever fitted or removed from a bike. And, I no longer carry a spare inner tube, tyre levels or a pump; just a light-weight can of tyre Vittoria Pit Stop (don't know if it works, because I haven't had a flat yet).
Followed your advice and mounted my first tub today using tape. Very easy and the wheel spins beautifully! Thankyou!
I like how all the difficult and critical parts of the process, the wheel is not visible, between his knees or facing him, so we can't see what he is doing.
Thanks for the clear and concise instructions. Good Video
thank you Ben! now i am confident to use Tubs on the open road!
I was deciding on clincher vs tubular deep section wheels for my Venge. You’ve convinced me! Tubular it is.
ahall3823 The problem with tubulars is the time you need to clean out the glue, so tape is much faster however I have to warn you do not descents using tape. Always glue the tire properly to the rim specially if doing fast descents. For riding around in flat lands tape is safe and easier than glue. I prefer clinchers simply due to the easy installation and tube repair.
Thanks for the video! Would love to try some Tubular tape :)
Very informative!
No major mistakes since tape and straight tires. Minor issues seem to have been corrected after a block or two. Shop smart for the right tire. Thanks!
Hi Ben. I heard so many pros and against tubs tape. I do like concept of making tire change really fast and that has to be with tape. I would love to try your tape.
Thanks!
I bought that. quick to install and thin like a glue. Tufo thick, the wheel is not rigid enough. best tape
Loved the info on the video but it would be better to actually have your camera pointing more on the wheel while putting on the tape. It goes out of the picture when you have the wheel at your feet.
yeah man.
Im gonna go to tubs
I would love to see you do that with a Conti Competition ;-)
Doing it right now.
Very excited to do iit using tub tape. Please send me the link to purchase for the tubular tape . Thank you!
Hi Sir, please, Can you explain how to proceed when the tubular sticks on the road during the workout? I mean, should I take the old tape and apply a new one? Greeting from Brazil, Francisco.
hi i just seen your video, i have just brought a pair of corima tubular wheels and i am hoping you may have so sample tape left you can send me i live in the UK don't know if you supply the UK but it looks like a easy tape to use
Will this tape work for cyclocross tires? Also, can I use it on a rim which has previously been glued? I would be cleaning it thoroughly to get the excess glue off.
Hi from Texas. That tape doesn't look like the fabric tapes by tufo or veloflex.
Would I be able to use it in conjunction with tub glue for cyclocross tires?
I would love to try to tape now. Would it be ok to install the tape on used tubular tire? Having some glue on tire I cleaned as much as I could, would tape still work in your opinion? Just afraid old sticky tire would not allow to peel the take.
So if the tape is uber adhesive... how do you take a tubular off the rim?
It would be nice if you showed what your doing as well explaining as you go. thank you for the video.
Hi there, thanks for the video. I am "restoring" my nice road bike from 1981 (thank you Corona).
I followed your instructions putting a 21 (?) mm Conti tire on the original aluminum rims.
I got some Jantex tape (I could not find yours), I was a bit wary when I read good for two tires and I saw the cut off overlap used by your technique. In anticipation I saved the cut off pieces. (How can you tell how much extra tape is on the roll). Of course I was missing 3-4 inches :-( . Well I still managed, as I patched up the remaining gap and it worked out great. Can't wait for a test ride this evening.
Greetings from California
SL
Hi Ben,
You make it look easy, I'll endeavour to give the tape a go. Any chance youd send me some of the tape you recommend?
Hi, Jasmin from Canada here. Any chance you have some tape left. Want to switch from glue.
After fixing the tubular tyre on the rim with glue, the excess base tape is exposing almost uniformly along the rim edges. However, the rubber tread pattern is not running really straight (slight left and right movement) when it rolls. I have tried to re-adjust the tyre while it is still freshly mounted but it is still the same. The rim was just trued too. Any idea this tread pattern not rolling perfectly straight is normal?
Can we buy the 3M tape locally? I tried searching 3M's website, but couldn't identify what tape it is?
If I have a 22.78 mm wide with a depth of 4mm do I use a 24 mm tape or wait till 20 mm is back?
Love tubs so I can put more psi...much prepare over 130psi
Hi will sealant works on tubulars? Thanks
Hey I have questioned those new wheels Campagnolo Bora WTO .I do really like them but i heard some good thing about Tubeless and some really bad things about Tubeless. I do think Tubular tires just kick ass . .I Am currently riding older Bora one Tubular tires. feels amazing personally I do think there the best . . I Just want here your Opinion on those campagnolo WTO as far handling compared to Tubeless to tubular witch perform better overall..
Can I ride 700x21c tyres on the 38 mm? What would you recommend?
How do I get a sample Tape?
How difficult is it to remove the tape to replace your tire. This is great I like what you are doing and would consider purchasing your product, however this is on a new tire. What is it like when you are replacing a used taped tire?
I hope you found an answer! But not hard at all to remove the tape. Same with the tubs, I remember removing a Tubi that was glued and one that was taped and both feel about the same force it is required to remove them off the rim
I don't get the reason for taping over the valve hole. And he says "you don't want any bonding surface" but the tape is bonding/sticky, so what's the idea?
Set on repeat 5 times and now I get it: To be able to get a backing strip outside the rim, for pulling afterwards, WITHOUT exposing any sticky tape just beside the valve hole, you need to start before the holoe(not after as he says) to get some free backingtape to leave outside the rim.
Is this tape for carbon or aluminium surface? How is this safe? When braking, surface of carbon become really hot a tape then tear off, and then I'm dead underneath the car!
very good job and very good tutorial.... were can i buy this tape?
Hi! It comes included for free with all our wheel sets.
Hi, if I already put around 40ml/50ml of liquid sealant in my tubular tire and pumped them up to 90 psi, are my tires literally f*cked up? ;) I applied the liquid sealant when I installed the tires, I am using 25mm tufo hi composite carbon. I’ve done a couple of ride so far… I did this cos I heard it might help me sort out any future punctures …
Hello, can you please write id number of the tape you are using? :)
Any recommendations for cleaning old glue off Carbon wheels so I can switch to tape?
Michael Battin a long time ago, how did your move to tape go? I’m about to do the same
Maybe try cleaning it off with light grit emery cloth. I saw that on a Continental video.
hi Ben!! what's size of that wheel you were working on?
thank you
Hi! That is a front 38 mm carbon tubular. You can compare all our ranges at www.carbonbikewheels.com.au
Thank You
Where to get those rolles you used I don't know how they're called online. Maybe a double tape or what?
Many thanks it's a great video
You convinced me. And I hate you for it. My experience with tubulars has been horrible. I had to remove the old cement to be able to install them. That took several days of intensive labor. Then I had to shell out $200 for tires, $20 for rim tape, $20 for tire sealant. Then guess what happened. I got a puncture at the top of a hill. I had to walk my bike back 6 miles to where I could get reception to call someone to take me home, because you can't repair that shit on the road. Barefoot walk, because you can't walk in road shoes --> blisters on feet. And now I have to go through the process of replacing the tire again. And for all that work do you know how much faster I am? SIGNIFICANTLY SLOWER actually. They climb slower, as the tape that adheres them to the rim FLEXES it off the rim as you crank the bike back and forth while climbing, resisting the motion and making climbing more labor intensive. To make matters worse, the extremely high pressures that I had to pump the tire to in order to keep it safely on the rim and prevent it from popping off in a hard corner on a downhill stretch make the bike extremely twitchy. I had never experienced death wobble until I ran tubbies, now I experience it every time I descend. It's terrifying. And because the tape flexes under the tire, when I try to corner at speed, such as on a descent, the tire resists the cornering motion. I replaced my front zipp 303 tubby with my old Easton SLX aluminum clincher and I took 1.5 minutes off a 10 minute climb and a full minute off the descent, no speed wobble. I have never been more dissappointed to have listened to a bunch of "experts"
Well said. And to that bunch of "experts" I'd add: many advocates from forums who believe the use of tubulars engenders a sense of superiority over everyone else.
Can you use tape while there's still some glue on the carbon rim? Or does it lowers the strength and reliability of the tape?
How do you think this would fare on a track bike hitting a 250m track at 200 PSI?
interesting question. At 200 psi it should actually hold much better because it's pressure sensetive
Is there a specific brand of tubular tires that you recommend for training rides?
I know this is 11 months late, but I've used and been recommended to Victorian Reubens. They also have the pro version, which are light, aka more prone to punctures. Hoped this help.😅
Believe it or not, went to a shop and they said we are old school, only glue as tape will last two rides!!!!!. Told them i was not interested...will do it myself and follow your video. If you still have some tape....:)
Just did it. So great....one thing is you need to be gentle when you remove the backing ...... go slowlllyyyyyyyyyy
How was the tape you use? Have you descend with the taped tubulars tires?? Diesel the tires stays on the rim?
Hi, can you get this tape in the UK or France? Cheers
Hi Frank,
Yes please write an email to france@cadencycling.com. Thank you.
Hi Ben, I have purchased tub wheels not really knowing what I am doing! I am 6 months into cycling. Should I be put off buying the wheels because of my lack of experience? I am concerned about road punctures and replacing tyres, should I be? Watching your video has given me more confidence to say give it a go rather than cancel the order. What are your thoughts?
Great blog plus I just send you guys an email.
Hi! Can you buy that tape in Europe?
Hi Tomas, where in Europe are you located?
Great video but why do so many mechanics frown at the idea of tape? Glue just seems like a messy, time consuming, hassle.
Hi, Chris! You are right, watch our video Tubular Rim Tape or Glue? th-cam.com/video/vV1X4fWsCfk/w-d-xo.html
Thank you
I just applied tufo tape to my wheelset and I have zero confidence of it holding up. How can I get my hands on your tape?
Clincher is abt 10 min but tubular 20 min
this stuff looks easy to bad i see this stuff 6 years to late would have loved to get a roll to try out my first set of tubes i realy dont look forward to playing around with glue
Can`t see much
Any chance you have any left lol
we dont need to see you face all the time may be you can show the installation lil bet more.. thanks
This would have been helpful if u angled ur cam down and not on ur face
show everything ffs, you made a video on how to do something then hid certain elements of the task dummy!
One of the worst video about tubular tyre
Fell asleep half through
Oh I'm sorry. I mean I guess for an informative video we should have more whimsical music in the background, maybe some hooter girls holding pom poms jumping around and even some animation in place of real footage. Get real dude, this is exactly the best kinds of videos for people interested in learning more about how to fit tubular tires on with tape.