Not for the first time, and certainly not for the last, an important battle is fought on Polish territory. This time, however, neither of the armies involved belong to Poland. Looking at the troop numbers counts, the outcome would seem settled before it even began. Yet, if we have learned anything from other battles on Polish soil, unpredictability is a word that can be applied time and time again. With the help of Indy and the TimeGhost team you can learn more about future battles on Polish territory in these two episodes from our own channel and the "World War Two In Real Time" series: 40:1 - The Battle of Wizna - Sabaton History 001 [Official] th-cam.com/video/Qpb8gTSMUbo/w-d-xo.html The Polish-German War - WW2 - 001 - September 1, 1939 [IMPROVED] th-cam.com/video/2b7GY4BSUmU/w-d-xo.html If you would like to gain early access to our Sabaton History episodes and actively support this awesome project that we are so passionate about, you can do so by joining our Patreon community. There are some pretty cool perks when you become part of the Patreon family. Find out more and join here 👉 www.patreon.com/sabatonhistory
Blaz Blaz. Your comment is failed history. Yeah maybe several of their attempts have been in vain, but at least they haven’t had such a huge failure as the Americans during the Vietnam War or Korean War. At least Poland fought to the bitter end regardless of how futile it may have been.
@Metrack Of course the Rest of Europe would gang up on anyone who started to get to powerful. Afterall, can't risk losing their own power or influence to their rivals.
@@stefanjoeres7149 true, but I'm pretty sure the current brexit clusterfuck is the whole of Europe saying 'oh fuck, we can't allow GB to be off the leash again'
@@seanblackhurst7844 This will not be a popular opinion but if it had been me in charge of the EU side of the brexit negotiations I would have been absolutely savage in the deal Britain got. It is in the EU's interest that Brexit fails to show the rest of the countries in the EU that leaving will result in economic devastation.
Agreed , also just the pure reaction of Joakim as a father slightly embarrassed, but has to hide it, cause he's in public and his son is still kind of funny
"And I'm Astrid Lindgren" -Really? I Love what you did with your hair! - Ah thanks. - Well you know I'm dead and all. *ENDING ON A HIGH NOTE NEVER BEFORE SEEN ON THE SHOW*
I would love to hear on Sabaton History also Tommy, Chris or Hannes talking about songs they contributed to. Eg. Tommy talking about A Ghost in the Trenches (or even maybe Thobbe with his Fields of Verdun). It could be a nice change.
I would love if Tommy and Thobbe told us how awesome and life changing Swedish Pagans is while Joakim sits right beside them wanting to kill both of them, but he knows that he'll lose so he don't do it
General Schulenburg: "We have you outnumbered!" General Rehnskiöld: "How many times?" General Schulenburg: "Three times, surrender!" General Rehnskiöld: "NOT ENOUGH *BOINK*."
Wish they had gone deeper into the reasonings or theories about why the Massacre took place etc. There are two main thoughts (Both Today and that were mentioned at the time). The First was that it was done in retaliation for Russian atrocities in Courland that took place earlier in the war. And the second was the fact that during the Battle the russian Contingent had turned their coats inside out in an attempt to blend in with the Saxon troops (The russian Coats were green but the inside was white so by turning them inside out they looked similar to the White Saxson uniforms) one theory was that they did this in order to confuse the Swedes as to where the Russians were placed (as they were thought to be a weak point). With the other theory being that they did this in hope for better treatment by the Swedes (I think this was the Swedish thought at the time). And that the massacre was in response to the Russians wearing "false colors". Since while neither of those excuse the actions taken its always interesting to see the reasoning behind such actions. In addition i dont think they ever mentioned the Great Northern War in the start of the video (or that Sweden was the Defender in this was and not the agressor) Though that probably does not matter as much since i assume most people who watch this video have seen other Sabaton History videos about that war already.
The story doesnt make sense. The Swedish Cavalry was pursuing and butchering the fleeing Saxons which is what you do during a double envelopment. On the other hand the Swedish infantry went bananas on danish artillery crews because a rumour, the Danes tried to win dirty by shooting chain cannon balls. This was @ Lund so a bit earlier. A reason that I personally think is far more likely here is the fact that they were seen as heathens.
@@lightdampsweetenough2065 According to some sources the massacre happened to russian soldiers who had already given up, not fleeing saxon soldiers. But they all tell it diffirently so we will never know exactly what happened
@@lalilulelo1989 Yeah there is one guy who claims that it did happen and the reason was because the battle was still going on. The infantry was outnumbered almost 4 to 1 but smashed into the enemy with 3 columns. But yeah you are right, perhaps the order came down to shoot the russians for some reason who knows.
I love looking at caroulus rex as an emotional rollercoaster, where Gott mit uns and Killing ground are the highpoints of the album,Gott mit uns more so - it feels invincible both in arms and justice of cause, while killing ground is a great victory but one to specifically destroy the enemy.
@@marcus4532 Yeah, we all like some glorious battle. But there is a case for just enjoying a clean, slick and efficient administration(reform). Which is why Gustav Adolf II got a 6/6/6 in EuIV and Charles VII only 3/1/6.
Saxon Army: We have you outnumbered and outgunned. We even have artillery when you don't. You will never survive! General Rehnskiöld: [Plays UNO Reverse Card] Saxon Army: "Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!"
In hindsight, its actually kinda sad-the main battle of Fraustadt lasted less than an hour, and only a small portion fought till the afternoon, with many fighters either yielding, fleeing, or dieing. The Russo-Saxon army outnumbered the Swedes, had artillery-and still, the Swedes kicked their asses.
This is why I love this channel Not just a great history lesson but also pointing me in the direction of a kickass song I hadn't heard before. Great video as always gents
Indie: *ima pretend to eagle* Also Indie: *ima pretend to train* Also: the only thing to EVER unite poles and russians to a common cause? Of course it had to be sweden xD
@@josephpeck8723 Yeeeah. It feels like if we were to have some sort of epic showdown of the nations in Europe, it would be England beating on France, while Germany, Austria and Sweden fights Russia, Poland and the Balkans xD
@Blaz Blaz Ok buddy, a few things: One, it was a f#cking joke, do you not know what those are? Two, I am fully aware Russia was not a unified nation-state when the Mongols invaded Europe, but listing every power that existed at the time in the lands that would become Russia is tedious, and people will know what you are talking about regardless. Three, its assholish to assume I know nothing of history-you're not one to talk, considering I Knew that the Mongols started their attacks in Europe around the 1200s, unlike you who neede to edit your reply. Finally, your attempt at implying an insult at me is pathetic, to be honest.
Not gonna lie, I'm looking forward to using the Swedes in the Age of Empires III Definitive Edition coming out in October. I had never even heard of the Swedish Empire until I started listening to you guys, so thanks for the awesome lessons!
In fact, the secret alliance between August and Peter (and Christian of Denmark, unmentioned here, but he also backed out early) against Karl XII started even before August was elected Polish King. Then, in his double role as Saxon Elector and Polish King, he let the army march on Swedish Riga, without asking the Polish Parliament. This allienated many Polish politicians, which in turn allowed for ousting of August and "election" of Stanislaw - who in turn saw himself only as a proxy for Jakub, the son of the previous king, Jan III Sobieski - but Jakub was captured by August - and this is why Stanislaw was lacking support in Poland either.
Fun episode. I was wondering when the show would finally cover the fight between the Swedes and the Saxons. I was in Dresden last summer and visited the Palace there, which currently houses a bunch of galleries and museums including a military history museum, and was excited when I started seeing the battles of Fraustadt and Poltava mentioned there. It's really cool to hear one side of the story (through Sabaton) and then go to a museum covering the same event from a different angle.
Yes, you mispronounced it but don't worry - I think everyone around the world read "sch" this way.... except us, here in Poland. So just let it be :D Anyway, I appreciate the fact of placing PW in the background. Great episode, as always!
I think that there are some important omissions between 1:00 and 2:00. Augustus was ousted from the throne of Poland-Lithuania as a consequence of him conspiring with the Russians and the Danes to jointly attack the Swedes a few years prior and the following defeats that he suffered from them, it is not true that he was ousted by Charles and THEN made common cause with the Russians, nor is it true that he was the victim of Charles political aggression (he was the one to attack the Swedish empire, not the other way around) as is implied.
General Schulenburg is a great example of someone taking out their victory before the battle was even fought. Underestimating Caroleans seems to not be the brightest idea..
Oh no, I wouldn't say that he is hated in Poland. He had some legit support and in 1733, after the death of Augustus the Strong, he won a proper election but lost the so-called War of the Polish Succession due to Russian and Austrian intervention. The political treatise 'Głos wolny wolnosć ubezpieczający" (The Free Voice Guaranteeing Freedom) published in Nancy in 1743 in his name (the actual authorship is disputed, it's believed that it was ghostwritten, at least in part) was a major influence and inspiration for the Polish Enlightenment and the reforms in the last years of the Commonwealth existence. I think that in retrospect most Poles who have any knowledge about this period regret that he didn't stay on the Polish throne instead of both the Saxon kings. I'm glad to hear that Stanisław Leszczyński is well remembered in Lorraine!
@@Artur_M. I didn't know that, all I knew is that the street leading to the Auschwitz death camp was named after him, which is not the most flattering choice. He built the main square of Nancy, la Place Stanislas, which is a beautiful neoclassical square with golden fences at the edges and a large statue of himself at the center. He also built the palace of Lunéville 30 km south east, which is a smaller Versailles.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine I was about to write that besides the fact that is was the site of the horrible and infamous German camp complex Oświęcim is still a normal town and streets there are not named deliberately after infamous figures, on the contrary. However, I double-checked and it turns out that the street in question is actually named after Stanisława Leszczyńska (no relation to the King), a remarkable woman that was a prisoner in Auschwitz: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82awa_Leszczy%C5%84ska I didn't know about her, despite that she was from my city (Łódź), so thanks for accidentally making me learn about her! I suspect that the confusion might be caused partially by the fact that the genitive case form (used in the street names in Polish) of Stanisław is 'Stanisława', just as the female version of that name (which is actually much less common than the male) in the nominative case. BTW Stanisław has streets named after him in a couple of other Polish cities.
@@Artur_M. BTW when talkin about his name: our Polish ghost in the trenches was Sat-Okh known in Poland as Stanisław Supłatowicz after his mother Stanisława Supłatowicz
While massacres of surrendered troops is... *always* something you should avoid if remotely possible, there is something to be said when your enemy is the one who declares no quarter is to be given. It's the reason you don't fly a black signal flag on a warship anymore (It's the 'No Quarter' flag, if that wasn't clear.). Still something you don't want to celebrate, but worthwhile in remembering that the lack of quarter or surrender being accepted was not one way. It was a brutal time, and events like this are why the Rules of War now exist.
ya lol, nothing to be ashamed of when massacre-ing soldiers who were planning on doing the same to u anyway, atleast the caroleans(most of them anyway) didnt kill civillians (unlike tsar peter)
Sidenote: August II the Strong is still today a saxonian hero. He gave the capitol of saxonia, Dresden, the most of the beautiful buildings you can see today and turned it into a cultural center of europe.
I am asking you, I am from Poland and I would very much like you to do a military clash about the Battle of Bzura, which lasted from 9 to 22 September [2], 1939. The biggest battle of the Polish campaign of 1939. It was fought by the two Polish armies "Poznań" (gen. Tadeusz Kutrzeże) and 'Pomerania' (gen. Władysław Bortnowski) with the German 8th Army (gen. Johannes Blaskowitz) and the 10th Army (gen. Walter von Reichenau) from the South Army Group "Süd" (General Gerd von Rundstedt). The battle was of exceptional importance because the Poles showed initiative and were the attacking party
Joakim: So, you know what is coming now, me asking you for money. So, money, money, give me all your money. Me: I would gladly give you my money if I had any.
"every nation has moments to be proud of and to be ashamed of" Me an American: moments to be proud of? The civil war and defeating Japan. Moments to be ashamed of? The civil war and defeating Japan...
@@rileyellis5951 Killing thousands of woman and children is what any country deserved? Arrogance and cowardice... and after that USA had the balls to say "we're good guys". I hope that future historians will think about it just as we think about Stalin.
Moments to be proud of in the US. The cheeseburger, the American that slapped a sliece of cheese on a hamburger deserved to have their face on the side of a mountain. American Apple pie, perhaps one of the first fusion foods in the world. And there was those times you put a man on the moon. Moments to be ashamed of in the US. Cats, yes, Cats was bad, the first disaster of 2020.
Indy explains it in the Carolean's Prayer vid, but the normal tactic of the day was for armies to stand off at 100 meters and exchange volleys. Sweden's low population and lack of manpower meant they could not afford the inherent attrition, and most armies of the day had consisted of conscripts and had forsaken armor and melee weapons. The Caroleans instead marched to extreme close range under fire, unleashed one volley and charged directly into melee, using the combinations of firepower and shock to quickly and decisively rout the enemy. The Carolean cavalry were also famous for riding in extremely tight formation to maximize their cohesion and amplify the shock of their charge. In addition, all branches of the Caroleans were cross-trained to use artillery; should they capture enemy guns, they could turn them on the enemy to devastating effect, as at Fraustadt.
@@avidficreader5040 Too add to this, the Caroleans was also highly skilled in melee, to the point where they would often come away with a 3 to 1 ratio i think.
We shouldn’t completely avoid these minefield topics and it’s actually good to talk about them as once we manage to separate emotions we’ll benefit from seeing things from another perspective. It also shows how mature one is if they are able to stand in front of a mirror, look into their eyes and admit this or that. If we rewind the history tapes a bit we’ll find some reasons that triggered certain actions, I think?
I was hoping to hear from Joakim why it sounds so much like an Iron Maiden song. I don't mind the sound at all, but EVERY time I listen to this song I think, "WOW!!! This sounds so much like Iron Maiden."
Not for the first time, and certainly not for the last, an important battle is fought on Polish territory. This time, however, neither of the armies involved belong to Poland. Looking at the troop numbers counts, the outcome would seem settled before it even began. Yet, if we have learned anything from other battles on Polish soil, unpredictability is a word that can be applied time and time again.
With the help of Indy and the TimeGhost team you can learn more about future battles on Polish territory in these two episodes from our own channel and the "World War Two In Real Time" series:
40:1 - The Battle of Wizna - Sabaton History 001 [Official]
th-cam.com/video/Qpb8gTSMUbo/w-d-xo.html
The Polish-German War - WW2 - 001 - September 1, 1939 [IMPROVED]
th-cam.com/video/2b7GY4BSUmU/w-d-xo.html
If you would like to gain early access to our Sabaton History episodes and actively support this awesome project that we are so passionate about, you can do so by joining our Patreon community. There are some pretty cool perks when you become part of the Patreon family.
Find out more and join here 👉 www.patreon.com/sabatonhistory
SAMUEL SPOONER Happy Birthday!
I love michael swenson
A book from astrid lingard
Wishing you a belated Happy Birthday Sam! Thanks for your support
Sabaton History can I come on your Sweden concert in Karlstad even though I’m twelve
Blaz Blaz. Your comment is failed history. Yeah maybe several of their attempts have been in vain, but at least they haven’t had such a huge failure as the Americans during the Vietnam War or Korean War. At least Poland fought to the bitter end regardless of how futile it may have been.
"General Rehnskiöld! They outnumber us 3 to 1!"
"Then it is an even fight"
Underrated comment.
All musketeers fire at will! Burn their mongrel hides!
HALO 2 quote😁
"Burn their mongrel hides!"
@@SimonvanTilburg One of the most epic quotes in gaming at that.
Joachim: "the Carolus Rex album"
Auto-generated subtitles: "the Corolla sex album"
Glorious
That sounds like RealLifeLore's favorite no no book
Hahaha!
Ulmer Cubing and More how many Toyota Corollas can it take to disarm an American tank
Methinks Auto-generated was divulging one of Joachims recent conquests
@Burek I Rakija King If it’s an Abrams, not many, if it was a Sherman, all the cars would be burning all the way back to 1864.
General Schulenburg: "We have you outnumbered!"
General Rehnskiöld: "I like those odds."
General Rehnskiöld: "And you are outmatched."
Also general rehnskiold: “this is where the fun begins”
so THAT'S where the Mordians came from...
General Schulenburg: "We have you outnumbered!"
General Rehnskiöld: "You poor bastards."
General Schulenburg: "Take no prisoners!!"
General Rehnskiöld: "If you say so..."
I love how as the Sabaton history episodes progressed the less and less formal Joakim and Indy become.
Love it!
Being with friends does that to you :D
I’m pretty sure they have a podcast and if they don’t we need it.
We rly do need a indy and jokke podcast🤗🤗😍😍
It was all serious till indys eagle noises 😂
Nation: **starts to get somewhat powerful**
Rest of Europe: "oh yeah, we all coming together"
Its like when someone calls Uno, you've all just found a target for your draw cards.
Unless the country is GB
@Metrack Of course the Rest of Europe would gang up on anyone who started to get to powerful. Afterall, can't risk losing their own power or influence to their rivals.
@@stefanjoeres7149 true, but I'm pretty sure the current brexit clusterfuck is the whole of Europe saying 'oh fuck, we can't allow GB to be off the leash again'
@@seanblackhurst7844 This will not be a popular opinion but if it had been me in charge of the EU side of the brexit negotiations I would have been absolutely savage in the deal Britain got. It is in the EU's interest that Brexit fails to show the rest of the countries in the EU that leaving will result in economic devastation.
This is an underrated song in my opinion, I'm a big fan.
I Agree. I love it
It's a good song.
Especially the Swedish version!
Killing Ground, 1648, Long Live the King actually you know what they whole Carolus Rex Album is underrated its so good
Tobias Farstad: I am ”finnjävel” but still I have to agree you
I’m convinced that Indy has this internal game of trying to one up himself on making Joakim crack up laughing on these intros.
Agreed , also just the pure reaction of Joakim as a father slightly embarrassed, but has to hide it, cause he's in public and his son is still kind of funny
Pure comedy gold
Hi, I won't be around for much longer but could you let the Band and Indy how much they've made my life more enjoyable. Thanks again
We're sorry to hear that, but we're glad we can provide joy in the darkness
Bless you
Blessings to you friend. Here for you if you need to chat.
*Its enough to make a grown man cry*
how are you doing? i hope well!
0:05 Indy’s got serious comedy potential
TUUT TUUT!!
Lastkraftwagenfahrer EK EK
I feel like we already established that in the Screaming Eagles video
I need to know what he said
I remember a similar phrase from a well written character in "New kids - Turbo"
Napoleon and Hitler : *invaded Russia before winter*
Charles XII *invades Russia in the coldest winter in it's history like a mad man*
whilst moving south
"His plan was simple; hit them first and hit them hard." Pretty stunning in its genius, really.
"And I'm Astrid Lindgren"
-Really? I Love what you did with your hair!
- Ah thanks.
- Well you know I'm dead and all.
*ENDING ON A HIGH NOTE NEVER BEFORE SEEN ON THE SHOW*
@Blaz Blaz Well, hell, if that's the case, radical cultural marxism is looking pretty damned good!
@Blaz Blaz LOL, man, you people are gullible as shit. Yes, that is certainly an omnipresent threat that Stockholm citizens live in fear of.
But Islam forbids adultery and homosexuality,so it can not be pan-islamic and pan-sexual simultaneously
@@17-MASY So does Christianity but it sure doesn't stop them!
This dude has never been to sweden hahahah
I would love to hear on Sabaton History also Tommy, Chris or Hannes talking about songs they contributed to. Eg. Tommy talking about A Ghost in the Trenches (or even maybe Thobbe with his Fields of Verdun). It could be a nice change.
I would love if Tommy and Thobbe told us how awesome and life changing Swedish Pagans is while Joakim sits right beside them wanting to kill both of them, but he knows that he'll lose so he don't do it
I've been waiting for this since I fell in love with the Carolus Rex album
Same
Me too, to a degree.
General Schulenburg: "We have you outnumbered!"
General Rehnskiöld: "How many times?"
General Schulenburg: "Three times, surrender!"
General Rehnskiöld: "NOT ENOUGH *BOINK*."
The boys get sillier and sillier as this series goes on. It's glorious.
15:29 The way he moves towards the camera looks like he's trying to tickle you, and it makes me shudder.
See the Caroleans standing tall, all for one and one for all, enemies fall at their feet, begging for their mercy
See the Caroleans standing tall, conquer lands and slaughter all. Enemies fall at their feet, victory and great defeat.
Wish they had gone deeper into the reasonings or theories about why the Massacre took place etc.
There are two main thoughts (Both Today and that were mentioned at the time).
The First was that it was done in retaliation for Russian atrocities in Courland that took place earlier in the war.
And the second was the fact that during the Battle the russian Contingent had turned their coats inside out in an attempt to blend in with the Saxon troops
(The russian Coats were green but the inside was white so by turning them inside out they looked similar to the White Saxson uniforms)
one theory was that they did this in order to confuse the Swedes as to where the Russians were placed (as they were thought to be a weak point).
With the other theory being that they did this in hope for better treatment by the Swedes (I think this was the Swedish thought at the time).
And that the massacre was in response to the Russians wearing "false colors".
Since while neither of those excuse the actions taken its always interesting to see the reasoning behind such actions.
In addition i dont think they ever mentioned the Great Northern War in the start of the video (or that Sweden was the Defender in this was and not the agressor)
Though that probably does not matter as much since i assume most people who watch this video have seen other Sabaton History videos about that war already.
The story doesnt make sense. The Swedish Cavalry was pursuing and butchering the fleeing Saxons which is what you do during a double envelopment. On the other hand the Swedish infantry went bananas on danish artillery crews because a rumour, the Danes tried to win dirty by shooting chain cannon balls. This was @ Lund so a bit earlier. A reason that I personally think is far more likely here is the fact that they were seen as heathens.
@@lightdampsweetenough2065 According to some sources the massacre happened to russian soldiers who had already given up, not fleeing saxon soldiers.
But they all tell it diffirently so we will never know exactly what happened
@@lalilulelo1989 Yeah there is one guy who claims that it did happen and the reason was because the battle was still going on. The infantry was outnumbered almost 4 to 1 but smashed into the enemy with 3 columns. But yeah you are right, perhaps the order came down to shoot the russians for some reason who knows.
My oh my, I really like these modern stories from Astrid Lindgren, really interesting 😍
everyone is gangsta till you see the swedish army comeing closer in the heavy snow storm
But the real problems start when the snow starts to speak finnish.
It's actually possible that snow did speak Finnish in Fraustadt that day!
So THATS why the Russians got their asses kicked.
(No offense meant!)
@@sampsani But the real problems to the Finnish speaking Karolinian snow start when the snow says nothing back in Norwegian
It's even worse when you see the whites of their eyes, and Caroleans are marching on.
Is the 'TOOT TOOT' the second version of the 'AUCK AUCK' from Indy's first album??
I was just bored in my house, and then the Caroleans arrived
I love looking at caroulus rex as an emotional rollercoaster, where Gott mit uns and Killing ground are the highpoints of the album,Gott mit uns more so
- it feels invincible both in arms and justice of cause, while killing ground is a great victory but one to specifically destroy the enemy.
that's because Gustavus Adolphus>>>>>>>>>>>Charles XII
@@marcus4532 Yeah, we all like some glorious battle. But there is a case for just enjoying a clean, slick and efficient administration(reform). Which is why Gustav Adolf II got a 6/6/6 in EuIV and Charles VII only 3/1/6.
I also love Joakims Hair.
He does have awsome hair 🤗🤘
Indeed.
All of Sabaton’s songs are so amazing that words simply cannot describe how great they are.
Underrated song. One of the best
That last clip to the video. That got me chuckling after such a heavy talk of warfare. Great work.
14:30 At first, I thought that was some sort of reference to "Powerwolf".
Saxon Army: We have you outnumbered and outgunned. We even have artillery when you don't. You will never survive!
General Rehnskiöld: [Plays UNO Reverse Card]
Saxon Army: "Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!"
In hindsight, its actually kinda sad-the main battle of Fraustadt lasted less than an hour, and only a small portion fought till the afternoon, with many fighters either yielding, fleeing, or dieing. The Russo-Saxon army outnumbered the Swedes, had artillery-and still, the Swedes kicked their asses.
This was always one of my favorite Sabaton songs. That chorus is as catchy as the clap!
Carolus Rex is an amazing album. I’ve listen to is countless times and almost always straight through every track.
0:05 caption this moment
Wow, I bought this CD yesterday and now you guys make a video about it.
Nice timing.
I love how Indy cracks Joakim up with his antics 😂
Was this the swedish version of new kids "truck driver, tschoo tschoo"
(only know the german Lastwagenfahrer tuut tuut")
Wait what? You guys also have new kids in germany?
Hjalmar Branting was as far as you can get from a truck driver... A famous Politicians if you wonder... but yeah that was weird.
Finally the comment i've been searching for...
This is why I love this channel
Not just a great history lesson but also pointing me in the direction of a kickass song I hadn't heard before.
Great video as always gents
Indie: *ima pretend to eagle*
Also Indie: *ima pretend to train*
Also: the only thing to EVER unite poles and russians to a common cause? Of course it had to be sweden xD
@Erik Bergström The ultimate Norse/Germanic vs. Slav battle after WWI and WWII.
@@josephpeck8723 Yeeeah. It feels like if we were to have some sort of epic showdown of the nations in Europe, it would be England beating on France, while Germany, Austria and Sweden fights Russia, Poland and the Balkans xD
@Erik Bergström But what about Italy, Spain, Portugal, the Low Countries, Ireland, Romania, Albania, and Greece? Who'd be fighting who?
@@josephpeck8723 Probably Italy against the lot of 'em xP
@Erik Bergström So, Italy would be channeling her Inner Roman Empire?
Adolf Hitler: "Invade Russia!"
Charles XII and Napoleon:
The Mongols: "I am the only one to beat Russia in the winter."
Everyone else: "If you did it, so can I!"
Russia: *"No"*
@Blaz Blaz Ok buddy, a few things:
One, it was a f#cking joke, do you not know what those are?
Two, I am fully aware Russia was not a unified nation-state when the Mongols invaded Europe, but listing every power that existed at the time in the lands that would become Russia is tedious, and people will know what you are talking about regardless.
Three, its assholish to assume I know nothing of history-you're not one to talk, considering I Knew that the Mongols started their attacks in Europe around the 1200s, unlike you who neede to edit your reply. Finally, your attempt at implying an insult at me is pathetic, to be honest.
Joseph Peck and they did it the other way over siberia
@@thurbine2411 Who, the Mongols or the Russians?
Joseph Peck mongols
cheers from Fraustadt :)
Carolus rex is my favorite album. Absolutely fantastic.
Not gonna lie, I'm looking forward to using the Swedes in the Age of Empires III Definitive Edition coming out in October. I had never even heard of the Swedish Empire until I started listening to you guys, so thanks for the awesome lessons!
No problem, thanks for the support!
Thank you sooo much for placing that Warsaw Uprising symbol in the background! We remember!
In fact, the secret alliance between August and Peter (and Christian of Denmark, unmentioned here, but he also backed out early) against Karl XII started even before August was elected Polish King. Then, in his double role as Saxon Elector and Polish King, he let the army march on Swedish Riga, without asking the Polish Parliament. This allienated many Polish politicians, which in turn allowed for ousting of August and "election" of Stanislaw - who in turn saw himself only as a proxy for Jakub, the son of the previous king, Jan III Sobieski - but Jakub was captured by August - and this is why Stanislaw was lacking support in Poland either.
Whenever you hear that the opposing general/marshal is named Carl Gustaf something... just... don't. Run, give up, it's not gonna end well for you.
@Caldera So, "damned if you do and damned if you don't" when it comes to facing Rehnskiöld?
@@josephpeck8723 That, but also Mannerheim.
@Caldera Eh, makes sense. That/those name(s) are possibly magical, now that I think about it...
Fun episode. I was wondering when the show would finally cover the fight between the Swedes and the Saxons. I was in Dresden last summer and visited the Palace there, which currently houses a bunch of galleries and museums including a military history museum, and was excited when I started seeing the battles of Fraustadt and Poltava mentioned there. It's really cool to hear one side of the story (through Sabaton) and then go to a museum covering the same event from a different angle.
Yes, you mispronounced it but don't worry - I think everyone around the world read "sch" this way.... except us, here in Poland. So just let it be :D Anyway, I appreciate the fact of placing PW in the background. Great episode, as always!
I think that there are some important omissions between 1:00 and 2:00.
Augustus was ousted from the throne of Poland-Lithuania as a consequence of him conspiring with the Russians and the Danes to jointly attack the Swedes a few years prior and the following defeats that he suffered from them, it is not true that he was ousted by Charles and THEN made common cause with the Russians, nor is it true that he was the victim of Charles political aggression (he was the one to attack the Swedish empire, not the other way around) as is implied.
"Laws of war!"
"More like, suggestions."
Easily one of my favorite songs from that record
Probably my favorite sabaton song
Ett Slag Färgat Rött :D
That intro is genius
ein rotes Schlachtfeld
Joakim and Indy being absolute Creatures is so good
Its a good day whenever we get a video about Carolus and the Caroleans.
Omg indy making me laugh again! I understood every word of that (in the intro).
Thank you for being who you are
Ah yes, i was waiting for that song at this channel. Always love to have more episodes on my favorite album of the band.
Been waiting for this one, favorite Sabaton song.
"With great power comes great responsibility."
Ben Parker
I really wish youd play this live one day. I love its energy and its probably my favourite song of yours. :)
Fascinating video (especially the history behind the song!)
Clearly their best song!
General Schulenburg is a great example of someone taking out their victory before the battle was even fought. Underestimating Caroleans seems to not be the brightest idea..
These intros get better and better every episode
Ever since I heard the song I've been looking into the history of it now my wishes have been answered
as a huge fan of sabaton and europa universalis 4 i just love this channel and especially this episode!
Love this early warfare. Keep these coming...
King Stanislas is hated in Poland but beloved in Lorraine.
Oh no, I wouldn't say that he is hated in Poland. He had some legit support and in 1733, after the death of Augustus the Strong, he won a proper election but lost the so-called War of the Polish Succession due to Russian and Austrian intervention. The political treatise 'Głos wolny wolnosć ubezpieczający" (The Free Voice Guaranteeing Freedom) published in Nancy in 1743 in his name (the actual authorship is disputed, it's believed that it was ghostwritten, at least in part) was a major influence and inspiration for the Polish Enlightenment and the reforms in the last years of the Commonwealth existence. I think that in retrospect most Poles who have any knowledge about this period regret that he didn't stay on the Polish throne instead of both the Saxon kings.
I'm glad to hear that Stanisław Leszczyński is well remembered in Lorraine!
@@Artur_M. I didn't know that, all I knew is that the street leading to the Auschwitz death camp was named after him, which is not the most flattering choice.
He built the main square of Nancy, la Place Stanislas, which is a beautiful neoclassical square with golden fences at the edges and a large statue of himself at the center. He also built the palace of Lunéville 30 km south east, which is a smaller Versailles.
@@Duke_of_Lorraine I was about to write that besides the fact that is was the site of the horrible and infamous German camp complex Oświęcim is still a normal town and streets there are not named deliberately after infamous figures, on the contrary. However, I double-checked and it turns out that the street in question is actually named after Stanisława Leszczyńska (no relation to the King), a remarkable woman that was a prisoner in Auschwitz:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82awa_Leszczy%C5%84ska
I didn't know about her, despite that she was from my city (Łódź), so thanks for accidentally making me learn about her!
I suspect that the confusion might be caused partially by the fact that the genitive case form (used in the street names in Polish) of Stanisław is 'Stanisława', just as the female version of that name (which is actually much less common than the male) in the nominative case.
BTW Stanisław has streets named after him in a couple of other Polish cities.
@@Artur_M. BTW when talkin about his name: our Polish ghost in the trenches was Sat-Okh known in Poland as Stanisław Supłatowicz after his mother Stanisława Supłatowicz
Wow perfect episode, amazing song from the album Carolus rex, very interesting story
While massacres of surrendered troops is... *always* something you should avoid if remotely possible, there is something to be said when your enemy is the one who declares no quarter is to be given. It's the reason you don't fly a black signal flag on a warship anymore (It's the 'No Quarter' flag, if that wasn't clear.). Still something you don't want to celebrate, but worthwhile in remembering that the lack of quarter or surrender being accepted was not one way. It was a brutal time, and events like this are why the Rules of War now exist.
ya lol, nothing to be ashamed of when massacre-ing soldiers who were planning on doing the same to u anyway, atleast the caroleans(most of them anyway) didnt kill civillians (unlike tsar peter)
Been waiting for this one!
You are great teachers
Man, the poles always got the short end of the stick....like ALWAYS
Mat S Not always. There were times when Polanand existed !
Sidenote: August II the Strong is still today a saxonian hero. He gave the capitol of saxonia, Dresden, the most of the beautiful buildings you can see today and turned it into a cultural center of europe.
Schulenburg: "We have you 3 to 1! There's no chance for you to win!"
Rehnskiöld: *Whips out UNO reverse card*
I love what you did with the thumbnail. Looks very...... realistic.
Awesome.
I am asking you, I am from Poland and I would very much like you to do a military clash about the Battle of Bzura, which lasted from 9 to 22 September [2], 1939. The biggest battle of the Polish campaign of 1939. It was fought by the two Polish armies "Poznań" (gen. Tadeusz Kutrzeże) and 'Pomerania' (gen. Władysław Bortnowski) with the German 8th Army (gen. Johannes Blaskowitz) and the 10th Army (gen. Walter von Reichenau) from the South Army Group "Süd" (General Gerd von Rundstedt). The battle was of exceptional importance because the Poles showed initiative and were the attacking party
Vi behöver ha ett avsnitt av Ruina Imperii, på svenska.
Helt rätt
Interesting video. good work as usual, keep it up
Sabaton is my favorite band to play while gaming
I’m a fan of Sabaton history and the songs
I would love to see a Sabaton album about the Seven Years War. If Carolus Rex is any indication it would be friggin awesome.
Joakim: So, you know what is coming now, me asking you for money. So, money, money, give me all your money.
Me: I would gladly give you my money if I had any.
"every nation has moments to be proud of and to be ashamed of"
Me an American: moments to be proud of? The civil war and defeating Japan.
Moments to be ashamed of? The civil war and defeating Japan...
@@rileyellis5951 yes they forced our hand, but I was thinking more of what happened afterwards with McArthur.
@@xcritic9671 Yeah there's a few years that were rough.
As far as MacArthur governing Japan.
@@rileyellis5951 Killing thousands of woman and children is what any country deserved? Arrogance and cowardice... and after that USA had the balls to say "we're good guys". I hope that future historians will think about it just as we think about Stalin.
Moments to be proud of in the US. The cheeseburger, the American that slapped a sliece of cheese on a hamburger deserved to have their face on the side of a mountain.
American Apple pie, perhaps one of the first fusion foods in the world.
And there was those times you put a man on the moon.
Moments to be ashamed of in the US. Cats, yes, Cats was bad, the first disaster of 2020.
The swedish version is amazing and actually makes you feel like you are witnessing a doomedag.
Doomedag?
@@stevenguild2707 Doomsday. It's in the swedish lyrics.
Was part of it the Swedish carolian tactic revolving around heavy assualts and getting into the thick of melee as quickly as possible?
Indy explains it in the Carolean's Prayer vid, but the normal tactic of the day was for armies to stand off at 100 meters and exchange volleys. Sweden's low population and lack of manpower meant they could not afford the inherent attrition, and most armies of the day had consisted of conscripts and had forsaken armor and melee weapons. The Caroleans instead marched to extreme close range under fire, unleashed one volley and charged directly into melee, using the combinations of firepower and shock to quickly and decisively rout the enemy. The Carolean cavalry were also famous for riding in extremely tight formation to maximize their cohesion and amplify the shock of their charge. In addition, all branches of the Caroleans were cross-trained to use artillery; should they capture enemy guns, they could turn them on the enemy to devastating effect, as at Fraustadt.
@@avidficreader5040 Too add to this, the Caroleans was also highly skilled in melee, to the point where they would often come away with a 3 to 1 ratio i think.
Yes but also the double envelopment maneuver by the Swedish cavalry. hence the "galloping" feel of the song I would guess
We shouldn’t completely avoid these minefield topics and it’s actually good to talk about them as once we manage to separate emotions we’ll benefit from seeing things from another perspective. It also shows how mature one is if they are able to stand in front of a mirror, look into their eyes and admit this or that.
If we rewind the history tapes a bit we’ll find some reasons that triggered certain actions, I think?
11:06 No truer words exist.
"Sir, we are outnumbered like 3 to 1"
"Damn that's unfair-"
"I know maybe we should-"
"-Unfair for them"
"!?!"
I was hoping to hear from Joakim why it sounds so much like an Iron Maiden song. I don't mind the sound at all, but EVERY time I listen to this song I think, "WOW!!! This sounds so much like Iron Maiden."
This song has the perfect riff
Damn Indy has some real fashion sense in this one.
Well this song just got a million times better
stuff like this is how you can believe that Finland and Sweden were once one country
Can’t believe you got Astrid Lingren as a guest!
So none of us are gonna talk about August’s eyebrows?
No one:
Indy: TÜÜT TÜÜT!
can you can you make a video about "the last battle"?
they will inevitably get to it. Ive been waiting for a The last battle and a Ruina Imperii video for a while, but I'm sure they'll come
i am from the future and they have made one about the last battle
@@e.noodles Yeah, I just watched. Very glad they did it
nice
Money. Money. Give me all your money!
Genuinely cracked up