Good video! Some notes, as I've done this swap on my '95. Regarding the serial numbers: The "F" first character actually refers to the decade (1990s). Ford used this scheme for quite some time, with parts from the '70s starting with "D" and parts from the '80s starting with "E" (hence, why the Twin-I-Beam axle part numbers for the 2wd trucks is still E7 in the '90s-they used the same part from the 1987 revision). The '60s should be "C," not sure if the '50s and earlier did it as well. So, F2 is 1992. E2 would be 1982. D2 would be 1972. Regarding Point 7 (the speedometer/odometer swap): In addition to the odometer, the PSOM (speedometer module) contains all the gearing, axle, and tire information for that truck. If you had the notion of trying to cheat on your mileage, your speedometer will be hosed up because of the differing programming in the PSOM. For manual trucks, the PRND21 display is just a blacked-out panel, and that whole PRND21 assembly can be removed by way of a couple of screws. Final note: Be careful when handling the cluster. Beyond the stickers warning against flipping it certain ways, the actual black pieces that contain the displays are plastic sheets that are glued onto a backing that's integral to the actual componentry of that piece of the cluster. If you are unlucky (as I was), that glue will fail with rough handling. The result is that the display piece will a) fall down and jam the needles from moving, and b) result in the marks not being aligned with the sweep of the needle. I had to pull my cluster and glue down the display sheet for the gas/battery gauge piece because the voltmeter was jammed and the needle for the gas gauge pointed at the wrong angle in relation to the mark.
Hey this is done good information man! Thanks for sharing! I like the extra info about the lettering scheme for the parts. That’s good to know. If I had the correct year cluster, I would still have swapped the PSOM. But now it seems like more of a must. Makes me wonder how many guys are having problems after the swap Clusters without knowing that information. It’s funny you should say that. The PRND21 was coming unglued from that 92 cluster. I pulled it out, re glued it, and (since it was in better condition) installed it in my 95 cluster.
Wow. Very knowledgeable. Looking for some help. I have a 1994 F350 that was originally a gas auto. I swapped a 12 valve and ZF5 in her. Buttoning up some things to make her perfect. I’d like the fuel gauge to have diesel, not gas written. I’d like to have a tach as well. What cluster should I be looking for? A 94-95 diesel XLT tach right? I’d like to do this without re pin. Otherwise it’s not worth it and I’d just go digital. Furthermore, how does the tach work? Will I need to add a tach sensor to my harmonic balancer? Or does it calculate off of the tone ring?
@@Rangejunkie I did not. My understanding is that the primary difference between the 92-93 and the 94-95 clusters involves the addition of the airbag light, which is why the earlier clusters don't interchange with the later ones-if the 12V path through the cluster is broken, the truck'll act like a strand of Christmas tree lights with a bulb pulled-everything downstream gets hosed, and that airbag path is part of that. Not sure what is involved to make them interchange.
@@AWhitingO That's what I'd say. I believe it'd swap right over, just swap your speedometer over. My understanding is that the clusters were the same whether gas or diesel, and they just plugged in the correct tach module for the application.
Stevie another solid video brother great job! The hiding of mileage is so shady and is done all the time that’s a major issue. But the biggest one not discussed is when you switch the psom always properly program it to the the right settings. You must take your tire size specs for rev per mile multiply it by 108 which is all ford 8.8 then divide it by 8000. The number you get for example say 9.40 is what you program the psom to be. If you don’t do this you will destroy your transmission because it won’t know when to shift. Also all factory psom only let reset a max 6 times after that guess what you have to buy a new psom. So word to the wise watch how much you change your tire size!
Thanks man!🤙 I agree and it definitely didn’t feel right to swap in a lower mileage tachometer (I never did swap on into my truck.) I probably need to do this since I run essentially a 31” tire. The stock is much smaller. I actually saved another guys video on how to reprogram the PSOM or I have a write up. I can’t remember.
I put a 1996 f.150 cluster in my 1995 f.150 Bc I wanted an RPM gauge. What I noticed when I put the 96 cluster in my truck was that when I hooked it up and cranked it the mileage changed on the 96 cluster to the proper mileage that was on my truck automatically. I’m not sure if anyone else has had this experience, but that was mine.
The" F" on the serial number does not mean Ford. The F designates the decade 90 as in 1990 just as the E serial numbers designates 80 as in 1980 the D designates 70 as in 1970 etc. The second digit is the year. For instance a serial number starting with E8xxxxxx would indicate 1988.
Thanks for the info Cliff! 🤙 All I was able to find was the F was F150. F for a range of years makes more sense because clusters from f250s can be swapped for f150s.
Actually I think it's the trim model that determines whether or not your cluster will have a tach, not anything to do with automatic or manual transmission. My 97 f250 is the XL trim package with manual transmission and no tach...but every XLT I've ever seen has a tach whether it's manual or automatic.
Nope, my F250 XLT has no tach from the factory. Not specific to anything just wether the dealer or customer checked the box. However I have never seen a 92-97 diesel without a tach
just throwing this out there, the brick nose 1987-1991 f150-f350 and broncos are year specific if you are wanting a tach , the gauges without a tack will work in all 5 years. diesel are year specific. i went through this with my 1988 f250 extended cab long bed. hope this helps
@@demariojason they have different resistors on the printed circuit board on the back of the instrument cluster but from what i know and from my cousin who has worked at ford for over 30 years as a mechanic. . it is possiable it may be different for the 92-97`s. also check the resistors in the wiring harness. look and follow the wires that are on the negative side of the ignition coil follow those 2 wires up twards the fire wall and you will find a black tube with either 22K ohm and 1.8K ohm or it may be above 22K ohm but will still be a 1.8 k ohm . the 1.8k ohm goes to the tach as well
the f denotes 90 .e is for the 80s, d=70s c=60s and so on your correct about the number for the single digit year .only this is first year this part was produced. you can find f2 parts on a 96 but you won't find f6 parts on a 92 unless the part has-been changed.
Great video, What about the film on the back of the cluster ? I heard that a red cluster won’t be compatible if your truck came with a green film? and vice versa
2 isn't true at least specifically. I swapped the cluster from my 96 to my 95, drove it like that for maybe a month, no issues with anything. OBD-1 vs. an OBD-II as well, still no issues. Also the tachometer comment at the beginning, its not an autos only thing. Tach was just an option like everything else. My 96 F150 has a tach, its stick. My 95 F250 doesn't have a tach, it's stick as well. Just an option. Also to my knowledge there IS a way to edit the mileage it's just tough and probably not worth the effort. Other than that, great video!
Good to know! So it’s definitely luck of the draw for use second and third hand owners. I would like to learn how to reset or adjust the mileage or at least swap the PSOM.
@@TheMinuteMasters It definitely would be useful to know how! I'd like to put a factory tach cluster in my truck it just sucks losing out on knowing how many miles it has. I'm sure there's a way to swap them, would just have to figure out how exactly they have the clusters built. I know the speedo part is always the same, they just change the extra gauges to fit on one side or both depending. Swapping the clusters, I would guess it's pretty much just luck like you said, I did see some people saying they had issues after a swap, appreciate the response! Have a good one.
I have a 2010 F150 that I sent the cluster off to have the backlights replaired...i plugged the cluster back in, the lights come on but the truck won't crank...any ideas as to what to do?
I assume all of the connections on the backside of the cluster are firmly pushed in and connected, correct? Have you checked to make sure no fuses in your fuse panel have blown? it seems odd to me that a missing cluster would cause a no start issue. But newer vehicles are more electronically connected.
ANY videos about adding a tachometer to a 2001 Lincoln Town Car ???? I put uncut harness - 4.6 - AOD into a 1940 Ford DeLuxe Sedan Delivery & want a tachometer
I have a 94. Let me ask you this: can't I just get any 92-96 cluster with the rpm tach, just simply open it up, and switch all the donor gauges to my unit with my psom!!??
Very good information... question ❓❓ So I have a 96 f150 il300.. With no tach on the dash ..I'm swapping a351 engine with carburetor...I want a cluster with the tach on it..will every gauge work..even the tach?
Do you have to find the same model for your gauge cluster. I have a 1995 f350. Do I need to find a f350 gauge cluster or would a f150 or 250 work just fine? Also my truck is 4x4 do I need to find one that came out of a 4x4 also?
I don’t think model matters as much as the engine/fuel type. 4x4 shouldn’t matter either. My truck is 2wd and there’s definitely a 4x4 indicator light.
@@TheMinuteMasters thank you and have you heard anything further from the person that was looking at doing a Ford svt lighting cluster gauge in his truck but keep the same speedometer in the lightning gauges but keep same mileage
Right before this video was posted I went to a junkyard to find a tach cluster for my '96 f-150 (current one has no tach and I want one lol) I found a '95 f-150 (closest year to mine I could find) in the yard that had a nice tach cluster that I got for $20! But the cluster that came out of it says F4 which would suggest 1994 (must have been an early '95 production model I guess?) So anyway after seeing this I'm guessing the cluster I got won't work in my '96? I keep getting different answers...
Ah! That sucks! Well, if you really want to know if it will work. You can install it and drive the truck for a while. If somethings stop working you have your answer. From what I’ve read, it sounds like your battery will drain and some other things will stop working if the cluster isn’t compatible.
I recently swapped my blue dash from my 94 f350 for a grey dash from a 96 F250. Engine lights dont come on and it wont start. Junkyard said it would fit but my question is the wiring different? Do i need the computer out of the 96 now to fit my dash replacement?
I did the swap from v8 to a 300 and the temp gauge won’t work! I have swapped two different temp gauges and still nothing! Everything else works great! Any suggestions?
Will a 94 f150 v6 cluster swap perfectly into a 94 V8 5.0??? The last part of you video said that a V8 goes will go into a V6 perfectly but just want to make sure it will work both way.
That’s what my research showed me. One you go to swap clusters, hold onto your original. If you start having issues with the swap you can always put your original back. With that said, you should be fine.
@@TheMinuteMasters i found a cluster from a 94 f150 V8 5.8 and i want to put it on my 94 f150 V8 5.0 both gas fuel. Would the engine size difference make it hard or would it be plug and play?
@@matthewmurray5168 Really? Yes those years should be compatible. I don’t know much about the pinning process. However, my general understanding is the two large harness plugs for the cluster don’t pair well. Basically, if there are 8 wires feeding one of those plugs, one or two are off. To re-pin I would think you would pull one of the wires back through the plug and reinstall it in another slot. To do this you have to understand what each wire in the plug corresponds to. Then you’d have to figure out what each copper tab in the slot on the back of the cluster corresponds to. Then it’s just a matter of making sure each wire lines up with each copper tab. It sounds like a laborious process but I’m sure someone has a write up on how to do it.
So will say a 92 go into a 96? Mines a 96 302 automatic, so will a different engine auto manuel from say 92 work? Also we need the video on the mile gauge swap man. Thanks for all the videos and all the amazing help. Also why do you always upload videos right before i plan on doing something? Only thing i need now is a video on clock spring removal and install and how to tell if its bad lol
So a 92 will fit into a 96 perfectly and everything will plug up and work but not quite. Apparently, non compatible clusters will cause the alternator not to charge and probably some other issues. I also heard from another commenter that 96 is the most different cluster because OBD2 was introduced at that time.I don’t have a video on swapping the PSOM. I was about to do it until I discovered that the cluster that I had was a 92 and wouldn’t work in my 1995.
I have a question I seen that your cluster that has the tack is a 92 and your truck is a 95, I have a 94 f150 and I found the one that has the tack today and the year of the cluster with the tac I got today is a 92 like the one you have and was wondering if it will still work with my 94f150, on the other note my original cluster has the battery light and the cluster I got with the rpm gauge don’t seams to have that light of the battery indicator?
Yeah the cluster in this video is a 92 but I never installed it in my truck for that reason. I would definitely try to find the correct year cluster to avoid any problems.
I’m a year late to the party but I just got a 92 f250 custom and it has the tach already. When I went to change the lights in the cluster the circuit board on the rights side was all jacked up causing the lights to not work and occasionally my tach would jump around. So I found cluster from a 94 with the same color circuit board and all, would this work with my truck or would there be some issues?
@@kevinrodriguez3104 i wish, it’s hard finding one in good usable shape unfortunately (but not surprisingly), i’m just happy to know i can do it when i do find one
Good question. I’m not idea how you record those other than take apart a stock dash and remove the PSOM. Otherwise, maybe someone out there makes an odometer.
That’s a good question. I think as long as it checks the boxes on the other criteria you should be fine. Your year range is compatible. Are both trucks gas?
You run into the alternator charging issue if you don’t use a compatible year cluster. If I had swapped this 92 cluster into my 95 truck I would’ve had that issue. I’m told the only way to correct it is to re-pin the cluster. I’m not sure what is involved in that, but it sounds a bit tedious.
Ok. It (instrument console) finally died. I have tried many junk yards and every F150 (94/95) has been gutted. I noticed two days ago that my LCD for odometer was blank and the Speedo did not move. I was told that yea.. the PSOM definitely will cause transmission issues. I have a question. i have searched everywhere. My PSOM had died in my 94 Auto Gas F150 No TAC. So, since the old one does not have TAC but can I use a F5TF- with TAC on my truck as a replacement?
You can definitely swap the tach version into an auto truck. I have a video on how to change the instrument cluster light bulbs. That should give you a pretty good idea on how to install it.
I’d be down to ship it. I plugged it into my truck and everything worked. It will need new light bulbs here and there. The front clear plastic has a crack in it from the junkyard. The odometer has 190,000 miles on it.
I need a cluster so I pulled one from the 94 Ford bronco that write 110,000 miles. My truck has about 260,000 miles. I’m gonna keep the truck forever so I don’t care. Lol it came from the same year.
Yes, I think so every once in a while, diffuse I think it’s number 15 for the cluster will get melted every once in a while and I’ll have to replace it. I never figured out why may be at wires touching or something maybe the headlight switch works on the same circuit but yeah it was a pretty good by
Ok. I completed the replacement of my console with a TAC from an 1995. I had another issue that popped up before the change. The odometer and speedometer had stopped working for some reason. I said well, I was going to replace it anyway. So, I replaced the console and the odometer and speedometer is still not working. So, let me think.. it had to be simple, so I checked the fuses and found that fuse in position 18 "10 amp" was blown. I replaced the fuse and the console worked briefly (2 seconds) then it blew. I did some more research and saw that it could be the Air Bag Control Module. I looked on TH-cam, but I cannot locate where this module is located. Do you know?
That’s a good question. I’d buy a Haynes Manual for this year of trucks and look in the back section. There are circuit diagrams. Otherwise I feel like I’d be looking somewhere under the dash or around the steering wheel. Or in the passenger side kick panel. Also, try posting your question in the Ford Truck Enthusiast forum. There’s always a random person that can answer a tough question like that.
@@TheMinuteMasters They were very helpful. They provided me the schematics. I did a test by removing the two connectors on the Air Bag Module and replaced the blown fuse to see if it blows when I turn the key on. It did not blow. I replaced the Air Bag Module with one I had located (hard to locate one). The fuse #18 did not blow plus the PSOM is working. This also corrected my erratic transmission shifting, which I heard a bad PSOM can do this (replaced PSOM, I upgraded from a 95 F150 with a TAC). Plus my Air Bag light does not blink anymore. I smelled the old Air Bag Module and it was smelling like burnt plastic.
@@bernardlock2728 Good to hear Bernard! I’m glad you got it all straightened out. Those guys in those forms always have schismatics and wiring diagrams for things like that.
My cluster had issues so a local shop worked on it (ripped me off) but basically the gas gauge is not accurate and when the turn signal is on the battery needle moves back and fourth with the signal light 😂 idk what to do with it
So, basically if the PSOM is bad (Cluster) it can cause sporadic gear shifting issues? I have been trying to determine if my cluster is bad for my 1994. It can go months and months with not one gear changing issue, then all of a sudden it becomes confused by downshifting when going down the road. OD down to 3rd, 3rd down to 2nd if I turn off OD. Then it will start working normally for a few months again.
@@TheMinuteMasters No, I haven't. I have been researching this and found this associated with the cluster 1. Provides information to the Speed Control Amp. for auto speed control. 2. Drives the Speedometer. 3. Keeps track of how many miles the truck has driven and sends this information to the Odometer read out. 4. Provides information to the PCM computer for the Transmission shifting, Ignition Timing and the Injector fuel control.
@@bernardlock2728 I see what you mean. I think you have a pretty good theory. I would hunt down a junkyard cluster that matches your year and fuel type and try it. I think that’s the only way to know for sure.
@@TheMinuteMasters I've owned a total of 4 f series trucks 92 93 95 and 96 and there's a lot of differences mainly 96 changed a ton all the sensor conectors, switched to obd2 changed the type and design of sensors so its hard to interchange certain parts if your not familiar even the trim colors were a little darker in newer models and the head rest was different starting in 94 but there awesome trucks I wouldn't own any other truck I have an f250 also and its a decent ride so is yours
@@jamesshaw4954 That’s quite a few OBS Fords. Is there a particular year that was your favorite? Or engine? You are definitely right about the trim pieces. I’ve pulled a few “gray” trim pieces that are darker than those in my truck. Very nice! Thanks! Hopefully I get mine looking more nice! 🤙
@@Odi2017 Was one of the bulbs you changed for the check engine light? Ultimately, I would get a code reader and read your codes. The CEL will throw a code if it flashes.
@@TheMinuteMasters ok, so the year is what matters the most? When you put in the new cluster, I’m assuming I should make sure the speedometer needle is at 0 or does it sweep back and forth when started up? Thanks
@@mattsteinhoff1638 Yup, the year is the most important. Actually the speedometer needle doesn’t need to be set at 0 mph. It moves all over when you have it unplugged. I would make sure it’s at least resting on the left side (0 mph side).
I got a 120mph lighting PSOM for my F 150. I don't want their mileage, I want my mileage. Any way I can re-input mileage? Or swap the specific part of the PSOM so I can retain my mileage but keep the 120mph gauge?
Yes you can swap the mileage. I haven’t done it but I’m told you swap the “card” in the PSOM. You may have to hunter around to see who’s done a write up about it.
I wouldn't even mess with changing that. Mine already has a tach and if I didn't have a tachometer I'd just live with it. All kinds of issues if you get the wrong year cluster. Not worth the headache.
@@TheMinuteMasters unless you get lucky and get a compatible cluster. But if you really want a tachometer you would probably be better off with an aftermarket one. Just don't get a cheap no name brand and you should be good.
@@kylestivers4606 yeah that’s the trick. Plus everyone wants $1 million for their tachometer clusters. If I buy an aftermarket tachometer it will probably be from auto meter.🤙
So I have a 92 f150, and the lcd screen odometer is broken, the speedometer works fine. Is there anyway of fixing the psom , if I did switch it out for a new one, there’s no way I would retain my original miles at all?
I’m don’t know of an exact solution to fixing the LCD screen itself. I do know the PSOMs are swappable but you won’t keep your original miles. Since everything is electronic I’m sure there is a way to unsolder the broken LCD screen and solder in another one and that way you can keep your original miles. Your original miles are stored in the P some not the LCD screen. (Which I believe are two separate components but electronically linked.)
@@bernardlock2728 Nope. Very easy. Take the large trim pieces off under the steering wheel (this trim piece usually has a compartment in it and your fuse panel built into it.) It’s held on by two screws and push clips. It exposes the underside of the steering wheel right there you’ll see where the cable attaches to the gear shift. A couple of screws and the cable loop is all that holds it in place.
@@TheMinuteMasters Just struck me as funny... Good video though. gave it a thumbs up... Mistakes are the most important things we do.. The more we make the smarter we get..
Good video! Some notes, as I've done this swap on my '95.
Regarding the serial numbers: The "F" first character actually refers to the decade (1990s). Ford used this scheme for quite some time, with parts from the '70s starting with "D" and parts from the '80s starting with "E" (hence, why the Twin-I-Beam axle part numbers for the 2wd trucks is still E7 in the '90s-they used the same part from the 1987 revision). The '60s should be "C," not sure if the '50s and earlier did it as well. So, F2 is 1992. E2 would be 1982. D2 would be 1972.
Regarding Point 7 (the speedometer/odometer swap): In addition to the odometer, the PSOM (speedometer module) contains all the gearing, axle, and tire information for that truck. If you had the notion of trying to cheat on your mileage, your speedometer will be hosed up because of the differing programming in the PSOM.
For manual trucks, the PRND21 display is just a blacked-out panel, and that whole PRND21 assembly can be removed by way of a couple of screws.
Final note: Be careful when handling the cluster. Beyond the stickers warning against flipping it certain ways, the actual black pieces that contain the displays are plastic sheets that are glued onto a backing that's integral to the actual componentry of that piece of the cluster. If you are unlucky (as I was), that glue will fail with rough handling. The result is that the display piece will a) fall down and jam the needles from moving, and b) result in the marks not being aligned with the sweep of the needle. I had to pull my cluster and glue down the display sheet for the gas/battery gauge piece because the voltmeter was jammed and the needle for the gas gauge pointed at the wrong angle in relation to the mark.
Hey this is done good information man! Thanks for sharing! I like the extra info about the lettering scheme for the parts.
That’s good to know. If I had the correct year cluster, I would still have swapped the PSOM. But now it seems like more of a must. Makes me wonder how many guys are having problems after the swap Clusters without knowing that information.
It’s funny you should say that. The PRND21 was coming unglued from that 92 cluster. I pulled it out, re glued it, and (since it was in better condition) installed it in my 95 cluster.
On your swal, did you have to repin anything. I coincdentally have a 95 f150 and have a 92 tach set up. Just trying to get all my ducks in a row.
Wow. Very knowledgeable. Looking for some help. I have a 1994 F350 that was originally a gas auto. I swapped a 12 valve and ZF5 in her. Buttoning up some things to make her perfect. I’d like the fuel gauge to have diesel, not gas written. I’d like to have a tach as well. What cluster should I be looking for? A 94-95 diesel XLT tach right? I’d like to do this without re pin. Otherwise it’s not worth it and I’d just go digital.
Furthermore, how does the tach work? Will I need to add a tach sensor to my harmonic balancer? Or does it calculate off of the tone ring?
@@Rangejunkie I did not. My understanding is that the primary difference between the 92-93 and the 94-95 clusters involves the addition of the airbag light, which is why the earlier clusters don't interchange with the later ones-if the 12V path through the cluster is broken, the truck'll act like a strand of Christmas tree lights with a bulb pulled-everything downstream gets hosed, and that airbag path is part of that.
Not sure what is involved to make them interchange.
@@AWhitingO That's what I'd say. I believe it'd swap right over, just swap your speedometer over. My understanding is that the clusters were the same whether gas or diesel, and they just plugged in the correct tach module for the application.
Stevie another solid video brother great job! The hiding of mileage is so shady and is done all the time that’s a major issue. But the biggest one not discussed is when you switch the psom always properly program it to the the right settings. You must take your tire size specs for rev per mile multiply it by 108 which is all ford 8.8 then divide it by 8000. The number you get for example say 9.40 is what you program the psom to be. If you don’t do this you will destroy your transmission because it won’t know when to shift. Also all factory psom only let reset a max 6 times after that guess what you have to buy a new psom. So word to the wise watch how much you change your tire size!
Thanks man!🤙 I agree and it definitely didn’t feel right to swap in a lower mileage tachometer (I never did swap on into my truck.)
I probably need to do this since I run essentially a 31” tire. The stock is much smaller.
I actually saved another guys video on how to reprogram the PSOM or I have a write up. I can’t remember.
Tak-ah-meh-ter. You're killing me.
Hahahaha
I swapped a 94 into my 92 and it worked.
Thanks for the info I did a cluster swap and this saved my butt some money
No problem man!🤙 Glad I could help ya out. These clusters aren’t cheap.
I put a 1996 f.150 cluster in my 1995 f.150 Bc I wanted an RPM gauge. What I noticed when I put the 96 cluster in my truck was that when I hooked it up and cranked it the mileage changed on the 96 cluster to the proper mileage that was on my truck automatically. I’m not sure if anyone else has had this experience, but that was mine.
Really? So you didn’t have to swap the PSOM to get your old mileage? I wonder if it’s because 96 is an OBD2 vehicle.
Did you have to do anything to make the 96 cluster working a 95?
Muy bueno tu canal. He estado mirando muchos de tus vídeos. ! Gracias por compartir la información con la comunidad
¡De nada! Te agradezco que veas mis videos.
The" F" on the serial number does not mean Ford. The F designates the decade 90 as in 1990 just as the E serial numbers designates 80 as in 1980 the D designates 70 as in 1970 etc. The second digit is the year. For instance a serial number starting with E8xxxxxx would indicate 1988.
Thanks for the info Cliff! 🤙 All I was able to find was the F was F150. F for a range of years makes more sense because clusters from f250s can be swapped for f150s.
The ninth thing you should know is a diesel tach only goes up to 4,000 rpms . A gas goes to 6,000.
Ah! Good point! Thanks for sharing man!🤙
The F in front of part number signifies 90’s , D is 70’s, E is 80’s and F is 90’s
Good to know! Thanks Jeff!🤙
Actually I think it's the trim model that determines whether or not your cluster will have a tach, not anything to do with automatic or manual transmission. My 97 f250 is the XL trim package with manual transmission and no tach...but every XLT I've ever seen has a tach whether it's manual or automatic.
You could be right. XLs were super basic and very cheap.
Nope, my F250 XLT has no tach from the factory. Not specific to anything just wether the dealer or customer checked the box. However I have never seen a 92-97 diesel without a tach
My 88 F150 XLT has no tach. It will soon though, after some junkyard hunting…
same my f150 xlt don’t have one yet
just throwing this out there, the brick nose 1987-1991 f150-f350 and broncos are year specific if you are wanting a tach , the gauges without a tack will work in all 5 years. diesel are year specific. i went through this with my 1988 f250 extended cab long bed. hope this helps
Good to know!🤙 Thanks for sharing man! That could almost be another video.
So I have a 94 f150 wanting to install that RPM tach; so is the only years I could use is the 94-95? Or any 92-96?
@@demariojason they have different resistors on the printed circuit board on the back of the instrument cluster but from what i know and from my cousin who has worked at ford for over 30 years as a mechanic. . it is possiable it may be different for the 92-97`s. also check the resistors in the wiring harness. look and follow the wires that are on the negative side of the ignition coil follow those 2 wires up twards the fire wall and you will find a black tube with either 22K ohm and 1.8K ohm or it may be above 22K ohm but will still be a 1.8 k ohm . the 1.8k ohm goes to the tach as well
Good deal, picked one up for my 87 looking to do it in the next couple of weeks
Nice! I don’t know much about swapping the 80s clusters but they might be less difficult.
What serial number is on the cluster you picked up for your ‘87?
@@arcadejac1287 I'll take look tmw,and get back to you
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@@arcadejac1287 I posted it
My Nephew just picked up a Tach Cluster for his 95.
Very nice!
what was done ?
Thanks for your work..
You’re welcome!🤙
Awesome video 👍🏼
Thanks man!🤙
The psom' needs to be pinged too , if you change tire sizes to get the speedometer to read right and maybe trans to shift right.
You are right!
the f denotes 90 .e is for the 80s,
d=70s
c=60s and so on
your correct about the number for the single digit year
.only this is first year this part was produced. you can find f2 parts on a 96 but you won't find f6 parts on a 92 unless the part has-been changed.
Thanks for sharing David!🤙 It’s hard finding all the correct details.
@@TheMinuteMasters is there not a date code below that? something like A092095 which looks to me like sept 20 1995
@@pivotmaster9556 Not sure. I don’t have that tach anymore.
I'm hoping the V8 clusters work for the inline 6. My 5 speed looks weird without a tach
That’s crazy that your cluster doesn’t have tachometer with a 5 speed. I feel like those should always be paired together.
Same I have a 5.0 5 speed no tach o meter
damn 😂
@@fernandoestrada5537 fixed my problem sold it and got a new 6.7 f250
Great video, What about the film on the back of the cluster ? I heard that a red cluster won’t be compatible if your truck came with a green film? and vice versa
I think you are right. Has to do with particular years having a certain color film.
Cool Videos, the big questions is why don’t you have a tach in that f150 you got.
No idea. Seems to be hit or miss with auto transmission trucks.
I have a manual 95f150 4.9 where or who restores the cluster i need the original cluster brought back to life 😢
That’s a good question. I’m don’t know anyone that does that. But I have heard of people getting it done.
2 isn't true at least specifically. I swapped the cluster from my 96 to my 95, drove it like that for maybe a month, no issues with anything. OBD-1 vs. an OBD-II as well, still no issues. Also the tachometer comment at the beginning, its not an autos only thing. Tach was just an option like everything else. My 96 F150 has a tach, its stick. My 95 F250 doesn't have a tach, it's stick as well. Just an option. Also to my knowledge there IS a way to edit the mileage it's just tough and probably not worth the effort. Other than that, great video!
Good to know! So it’s definitely luck of the draw for use second and third hand owners.
I would like to learn how to reset or adjust the mileage or at least swap the PSOM.
@@TheMinuteMasters It definitely would be useful to know how! I'd like to put a factory tach cluster in my truck it just sucks losing out on knowing how many miles it has. I'm sure there's a way to swap them, would just have to figure out how exactly they have the clusters built. I know the speedo part is always the same, they just change the extra gauges to fit on one side or both depending. Swapping the clusters, I would guess it's pretty much just luck like you said, I did see some people saying they had issues after a swap, appreciate the response! Have a good one.
I have a 2010 F150 that I sent the cluster off to have the backlights replaired...i plugged the cluster back in, the lights come on but the truck won't crank...any ideas as to what to do?
I assume all of the connections on the backside of the cluster are firmly pushed in and connected, correct?
Have you checked to make sure no fuses in your fuse panel have blown? it seems odd to me that a missing cluster would cause a no start issue. But newer vehicles are more electronically connected.
ANY videos about adding a tachometer to a 2001 Lincoln Town Car ????
I put uncut harness - 4.6 - AOD into a 1940 Ford DeLuxe Sedan Delivery & want a tachometer
I don’t have any videos for Lincoln town cars. However adding a tachometer I’m told is a somewhat universal process.
LMAO “tach o meter” but says odometer properly 😁
I had to put extra emphasis on the “o”. Lol
@@TheMinuteMasters I thought it was some Irish term, Tach O'Meter.
@@borderlineiq lololol! I’m letting my Irish show.😆
@@TheMinuteMasters Darby O'Gill and the Little People, don'tchaknow?
@@borderlineiq lololol
I have a 94. Let me ask you this: can't I just get any 92-96 cluster with the rpm tach, just simply open it up, and switch all the donor gauges to my unit with my psom!!??
Honestly, if you can do all the rewriting and soldering, I don’t see why not.
@@TheMinuteMasters cool thx, I later found out that the bulb-locations are not the same. So. I'm sticking with your policy-Getting the same year. Lol
I’m trying to do this on my 94 ford ranger. Do you know if a gauge cluster form a v6 will work In a 4 cylinder?
That’s a good question! I don’t know for sure. It’s possible since the V8 and V6 are interchangeable on the f150.
Very good information... question ❓❓
So I have a 96 f150 il300..
With no tach on the dash ..I'm swapping a351 engine with carburetor...I want a cluster with the tach on it..will every gauge work..even the tach?
Thanks man!🤙 I believe everything should swap just fine as long as you get the proper year range.
Do you have to find the same model for your gauge cluster. I have a 1995 f350. Do I need to find a f350 gauge cluster or would a f150 or 250 work just fine? Also my truck is 4x4 do I need to find one that came out of a 4x4 also?
I don’t think model matters as much as the engine/fuel type. 4x4 shouldn’t matter either. My truck is 2wd and there’s definitely a 4x4 indicator light.
@@TheMinuteMasters thank you and have you heard anything further from the person that was looking at doing a Ford svt lighting cluster gauge in his truck but keep the same speedometer in the lightning gauges but keep same mileage
Hello there I really like your videos you I have a 1995 ford f150 single can automatic non 4x4. do you know any aftermarket cluster for 95 f150 ?
I sure do! I have not found any aftermarket clusters for these trucks. I’ve see people modify the stock cluster.
Right before this video was posted I went to a junkyard to find a tach cluster for my '96 f-150 (current one has no tach and I want one lol) I found a '95 f-150 (closest year to mine I could find) in the yard that had a nice tach cluster that I got for $20! But the cluster that came out of it says F4 which would suggest 1994 (must have been an early '95 production model I guess?) So anyway after seeing this I'm guessing the cluster I got won't work in my '96? I keep getting different answers...
Ah! That sucks! Well, if you really want to know if it will work. You can install it and drive the truck for a while. If somethings stop working you have your answer. From what I’ve read, it sounds like your battery will drain and some other things will stop working if the cluster isn’t compatible.
I recently swapped my blue dash from my 94 f350 for a grey dash from a 96 F250. Engine lights dont come on and it wont start. Junkyard said it would fit but my question is the wiring different? Do i need the computer out of the 96 now to fit my dash replacement?
I think 94 to 96 isn’t compatible.
I did the swap from v8 to a 300 and the temp gauge won’t work! I have swapped two different temp gauges and still nothing! Everything else works great! Any suggestions?
That’s weird. I would check the harness going to the engine and work your way back to the gauge. I would check fuses too.
Will a 94 f150 v6 cluster swap perfectly into a 94 V8 5.0??? The last part of you video said that a V8 goes will go into a V6 perfectly but just want to make sure it will work both way.
That’s what my research showed me. One you go to swap clusters, hold onto your original. If you start having issues with the swap you can always put your original back. With that said, you should be fine.
@@TheMinuteMasters i found a cluster from a 94 f150 V8 5.8 and i want to put it on my 94 f150 V8 5.0 both gas fuel. Would the engine size difference make it hard or would it be plug and play?
@@cesarchavezalvarado5570 That should be plug and play.
I ran into that I wanted a Tach, I put the wrong year in and it slowly would drain my battery. I swapped it back everything was good
Yup, that’s what I’ve heard happens. You have to re-pin the cluster to make it not drain your battery.
@@TheMinuteMasters i put a 92 bronco cluster in my 93 f150 and it slowly drained the battery. They should be compatible but what does "repin" mean?
@@matthewmurray5168 Really? Yes those years should be compatible.
I don’t know much about the pinning process. However, my general understanding is the two large harness plugs for the cluster don’t pair well. Basically, if there are 8 wires feeding one of those plugs, one or two are off. To re-pin I would think you would pull one of the wires back through the plug and reinstall it in another slot. To do this you have to understand what each wire in the plug corresponds to. Then you’d have to figure out what each copper tab in the slot on the back of the cluster corresponds to. Then it’s just a matter of making sure each wire lines up with each copper tab. It sounds like a laborious process but I’m sure someone has a write up on how to do it.
So will say a 92 go into a 96? Mines a 96 302 automatic, so will a different engine auto manuel from say 92 work? Also we need the video on the mile gauge swap man. Thanks for all the videos and all the amazing help. Also why do you always upload videos right before i plan on doing something? Only thing i need now is a video on clock spring removal and install and how to tell if its bad lol
So a 92 will fit into a 96 perfectly and everything will plug up and work but not quite. Apparently, non compatible clusters will cause the alternator not to charge and probably some other issues. I also heard from another commenter that 96 is the most different cluster because OBD2 was introduced at that time.I don’t have a video on swapping the PSOM. I was about to do it until I discovered that the cluster that I had was a 92 and wouldn’t work in my 1995.
@TheMinuteMasters does the 4x4 light swap as well?
I believe so. My truck is 2wd and I have a 4x4 light.
I have a question I seen that your cluster that has the tack is a 92 and your truck is a 95, I have a 94 f150 and I found the one that has the tack today and the year of the cluster with the tac I got today is a 92 like the one you have and was wondering if it will still work with my 94f150, on the other note my original cluster has the battery light and the cluster I got with the rpm gauge don’t seams to have that light of the battery indicator?
Yeah the cluster in this video is a 92 but I never installed it in my truck for that reason. I would definitely try to find the correct year cluster to avoid any problems.
What about the wiring harness plug wouldn't the tach needed extra terminals?
Surprisingly, it doesn’t. I plugged this particular cluster into my truck and the tach worked perfectly.
I’m a year late to the party but I just got a 92 f250 custom and it has the tach already. When I went to change the lights in the cluster the circuit board on the rights side was all jacked up causing the lights to not work and occasionally my tach would jump around. So I found cluster from a 94 with the same color circuit board and all, would this work with my truck or would there be some issues?
If you have a 92 I think you want a 93 cluster. 92-93 is a group and 94-95 is a group.
Where did you find that cluster I been looking for one?
Junkyard east of Des Moines, Iowa. That’s probably the only way to find one of these cheap. Everyone’s trying to sell them for 100+ dollars on eBay.
Anyone know if an obs lightning speedometer that goes from 0-120 can be swapped into an obs powerstroke f250?
If the 8 rules work, I don’t see why not.
Were you able to do the swap?
@@kevinrodriguez3104 i wish, it’s hard finding one in good usable shape unfortunately (but not surprisingly), i’m just happy to know i can do it when i do find one
Got a 1990 f150 Manual 5.0. it has no dash or cluster. I ordered s cluster gauge set. What do I about the miles?
I ordered 5 singles ones for like a hotrod set up. If that matters
Good question. I’m not idea how you record those other than take apart a stock dash and remove the PSOM. Otherwise, maybe someone out there makes an odometer.
So a gas 1994 f250 cluster should work on my 1995 f150??
That’s a good question. I think as long as it checks the boxes on the other criteria you should be fine. Your year range is compatible. Are both trucks gas?
I tried swapping my cluster but I ran into the issue that the alternator would not charge? Did you happen to run into that?
You run into the alternator charging issue if you don’t use a compatible year cluster. If I had swapped this 92 cluster into my 95 truck I would’ve had that issue. I’m told the only way to correct it is to re-pin the cluster. I’m not sure what is involved in that, but it sounds a bit tedious.
@@TheMinuteMasters thank you!
Ok. It (instrument console) finally died. I have tried many junk yards and every F150 (94/95) has been gutted. I noticed two days ago that my LCD for odometer was blank and the Speedo did not move. I was told that yea.. the PSOM definitely will cause transmission issues. I have a question. i have searched everywhere. My PSOM had died in my 94 Auto Gas F150 No TAC. So, since the old one does not have TAC but can I use a F5TF- with TAC on my truck as a replacement?
I found a unit on eBay with TAC, so I will do the replacement soon. Any tips?
You can definitely swap the tach version into an auto truck. I have a video on how to change the instrument cluster light bulbs. That should give you a pretty good idea on how to install it.
My 94 doesn’t have a rpm gage can I swap it out ?
And get one that has one ?
You sure can!
I need that cluster for a 1992 Stevie wanna ship it? What miles are on it?nevermind my truck only has 120,000km roughly 90,000miles I guess.
I’d be down to ship it. I plugged it into my truck and everything worked. It will need new light bulbs here and there. The front clear plastic has a crack in it from the junkyard. The odometer has 190,000 miles on it.
I need a cluster so I pulled one from the 94 Ford bronco that write 110,000 miles. My truck has about 260,000 miles. I’m gonna keep the truck forever so I don’t care. Lol it came from the same year.
Nice!! That’s a good mileage swap! Lol
Yes, I think so every once in a while, diffuse I think it’s number 15 for the cluster will get melted every once in a while and I’ll have to replace it. I never figured out why may be at wires touching or something maybe the headlight switch works on the same circuit but yeah it was a pretty good by
I take my Flareside every Tuesday
to Tacometer…….🤪
😂😂
Ok. I completed the replacement of my console with a TAC from an 1995. I had another issue that popped up before the change. The odometer and speedometer had stopped working for some reason. I said well, I was going to replace it anyway. So, I replaced the console and the odometer and speedometer is still not working. So, let me think.. it had to be simple, so I checked the fuses and found that fuse in position 18 "10 amp" was blown. I replaced the fuse and the console worked briefly (2 seconds) then it blew. I did some more research and saw that it could be the Air Bag Control Module. I looked on TH-cam, but I cannot locate where this module is located. Do you know?
That’s a good question. I’d buy a Haynes Manual for this year of trucks and look in the back section. There are circuit diagrams. Otherwise I feel like I’d be looking somewhere under the dash or around the steering wheel. Or in the passenger side kick panel.
Also, try posting your question in the Ford Truck Enthusiast forum. There’s always a random person that can answer a tough question like that.
@@TheMinuteMasters Ok. I will go to the forum. I have a Haynes Ford Pickup & Bronco 1980 thru 1996 and it does not say .
Yeah I would definitely post your question there. I wish I could have answered your question. Thanks for watching!🤙
@@TheMinuteMasters They were very helpful. They provided me the schematics. I did a test by removing the two connectors on the Air Bag Module and replaced the blown fuse to see if it blows when I turn the key on. It did not blow. I replaced the Air Bag Module with one I had located (hard to locate one). The fuse #18 did not blow plus the PSOM is working. This also corrected my erratic transmission shifting, which I heard a bad PSOM can do this (replaced PSOM, I upgraded from a 95 F150 with a TAC). Plus my Air Bag light does not blink anymore. I smelled the old Air Bag Module and it was smelling like burnt plastic.
@@bernardlock2728 Good to hear Bernard! I’m glad you got it all straightened out. Those guys in those forms always have schismatics and wiring diagrams for things like that.
My cluster had issues so a local shop worked on it (ripped me off) but basically the gas gauge is not accurate and when the turn signal is on the battery needle moves back and fourth with the signal light 😂 idk what to do with it
Really? Lol I would try to find a donor cluster then and since you watched my video, you know exactly what to ask for!😁🤙
@@TheMinuteMasters 😂
So, basically if the PSOM is bad (Cluster) it can cause sporadic gear shifting issues? I have been trying to determine if my cluster is bad for my 1994. It can go months and months with not one gear changing issue, then all of a sudden it becomes confused by downshifting when going down the road. OD down to 3rd, 3rd down to 2nd if I turn off OD. Then it will start working normally for a few months again.
That could be although I’ve never heard of a cluster going bad. Have you tried reading the OBD1 codes?
@@TheMinuteMasters No, I haven't. I have been researching this and found this associated with the cluster 1. Provides information to the Speed Control Amp. for auto speed control.
2. Drives the Speedometer.
3. Keeps track of how many miles the truck has driven and sends this information to the Odometer read out.
4. Provides information to the PCM computer for the Transmission shifting, Ignition Timing and the Injector fuel control.
Number 4 is what I was thinking on.
@@bernardlock2728 I see what you mean. I think you have a pretty good theory. I would hunt down a junkyard cluster that matches your year and fuel type and try it. I think that’s the only way to know for sure.
Another thing about them is only 92 and 93 have the battery light at the bottom next to the turn signals
Good to know! Another reason not to mix them up.🤙
@@TheMinuteMasters I've owned a total of 4 f series trucks 92 93 95 and 96 and there's a lot of differences mainly 96 changed a ton all the sensor conectors, switched to obd2 changed the type and design of sensors so its hard to interchange certain parts if your not familiar even the trim colors were a little darker in newer models and the head rest was different starting in 94 but there awesome trucks I wouldn't own any other truck I have an f250 also and its a decent ride so is yours
@@jamesshaw4954 That’s quite a few OBS Fords. Is there a particular year that was your favorite? Or engine? You are definitely right about the trim pieces. I’ve pulled a few “gray” trim pieces that are darker than those in my truck.
Very nice! Thanks! Hopefully I get mine looking more nice! 🤙
Hi I just did this on a 95 F250 and after finished the car won’t start and the check engine light came on? Any idea why?
Did you find a compatible cluster?
It’s the same one
Just changed some light bulbs
@@Odi2017 Was one of the bulbs you changed for the check engine light? Ultimately, I would get a code reader and read your codes. The CEL will throw a code if it flashes.
Hi, the battery was the problem, it was very old. Once I changed it the check engine light went off too, thank you
Does the color on the back matter? I have one from a 95 like mine it’s just red instead of green/yellow?
I don’t think so. I have a cluster from a 92 that’s reddish on the back instead of the yellowish/green.
@@TheMinuteMasters ok, so the year is what matters the most? When you put in the new cluster, I’m assuming I should make sure the speedometer needle is at 0 or does it sweep back and forth when started up? Thanks
@@mattsteinhoff1638 Yup, the year is the most important. Actually the speedometer needle doesn’t need to be set at 0 mph. It moves all over when you have it unplugged. I would make sure it’s at least resting on the left side (0 mph side).
@@TheMinuteMasters thanks!
@@mattsteinhoff1638 You’re welcome Matt!🤙
I got a 120mph lighting PSOM for my F 150. I don't want their mileage, I want my mileage. Any way I can re-input mileage? Or swap the specific part of the PSOM so I can retain my mileage but keep the 120mph gauge?
Yes you can swap the mileage. I haven’t done it but I’m told you swap the “card” in the PSOM. You may have to hunter around to see who’s done a write up about it.
@@TheMinuteMasters thank you! I'll look into it
What’s the update? We have a similar issue and looks like we have to take it to the dealership to get the correct miles inputted
Ever able to do the swap?
I wouldn't even mess with changing that. Mine already has a tach and if I didn't have a tachometer I'd just live with it. All kinds of issues if you get the wrong year cluster. Not worth the headache.
You know Kyle, I feel the same way. Im just not sure if it’s worth it. I’m tempted just to install an aftermarket tachometer.
@@TheMinuteMasters unless you get lucky and get a compatible cluster. But if you really want a tachometer you would probably be better off with an aftermarket one. Just don't get a cheap no name brand and you should be good.
@@kylestivers4606 yeah that’s the trick. Plus everyone wants $1 million for their tachometer clusters. If I buy an aftermarket tachometer it will probably be from auto meter.🤙
@@TheMinuteMasters auto meter is a good one. They make really nice gauges.
@@kylestivers4606 They definitely do. I have their transmission temperature gauge and I love it.
So I have a 92 f150, and the lcd screen odometer is broken, the speedometer works fine. Is there anyway of fixing the psom , if I did switch it out for a new one, there’s no way I would retain my original miles at all?
I’m don’t know of an exact solution to fixing the LCD screen itself. I do know the PSOMs are swappable but you won’t keep your original miles.
Since everything is electronic I’m sure there is a way to unsolder the broken LCD screen and solder in another one and that way you can keep your original miles. Your original miles are stored in the P some not the LCD screen. (Which I believe are two separate components but electronically linked.)
So do any 95s have a tachometer? If so what should I Google?
Some 95s come with tachometers. I don’t know if there is a method to figuring out which ones. I’d assume manual transmission trucks have tachometers.
@@TheMinuteMasters eBay it is… so I should go that route I assume?
@@TheMinuteMasters wow they want a arm and a leg for them.., eBay has them for 250+
@@willwork2fish261 Yeah eBay is probably your best bet. That’s where I was looking for a while.
What about automatic vs manual
I don’t recall there being a different other than you’d definitely want a tachometer.
The PRNDL at the bottom vs. the black cover. Those have 2 small clips and pop right out. Other than that they are identical
Where can I buy the cluster? I've been having trouble trying to get one.
eBay and junkyards is mostly where you find them. Some Facebook pages, guys will sell them. I will be selling this one soon. It’s for a 1992.
@@TheMinuteMasters please make a video on the disconnection and installation of the cluster if you can.
@@bernardlock2728 Gotcha covered! I made one last week. Look for the video about how to change the instrument cluster light bulbs.🤙
@@TheMinuteMasters What about disconnecting the gear shifting cable (white cable), is there anything special?
@@bernardlock2728 Nope. Very easy. Take the large trim pieces off under the steering wheel (this trim piece usually has a compartment in it and your fuse panel built into it.) It’s held on by two screws and push clips. It exposes the underside of the steering wheel right there you’ll see where the cable attaches to the gear shift. A couple of screws and the cable loop is all that holds it in place.
So can I swap my 96 f250 in my 96 f150 just for tachometer
Are those both gas engines? If they are, I don’t see why not.
Nope diesel wound be nice since it's a parts truck I have
@@EL-COMPA-D So the tachometer and gas gauge are programmed specifically to diesel and gas. They can’t be interchanged.
My XLT game w it 👍
Nice! You got lucky!
Ohh..and is a ,5 speed manual
So, actually, the F means the decade. F is 1990s, E is 1980s, and D is 1970s
Good to know! Thanks for sharing!
Tach-a-meter???
I know lol
@@TheMinuteMasters Just struck me as funny... Good video though. gave it a thumbs up... Mistakes are the most important things we do.. The more we make the smarter we get..
Who the fuck calls its a tachymeter. I almost vomited but need the info
The worst part about old Ford trucks. The psoms are shit and all basically all die someday lol and can't keep your milage. Some bs!
Really?
@TheMinuteMasters yeah if you psom dies and can't fix it goodbye mileage which sucks! You'd think the mileage adometer part would ne separate. Nope