Pure genius! I bought stainless steel zip ties and the tightening gun on Amazon, doing my valves this weekend, thanks for such a money saving "hack". Stellar sir!
Bought my first 2022 Challenger RT about 2 weeks ago. After watching your video, I just ran to Harbor Freight to grab some steel zip ties and a little ratchet set. I’ll circle back with the results!
Well I am back and pleased to report that this gentleman absolutely knows what's talking about! I ended up opting to use heavy gauge steel wire to do this as opposed to the steel zip ties, as I found the steel zip ties simply are too rigid to be snugged up tight enough to hold the valve securely. However, I can report that from removing the spring and using the steel wire to keep the valve open, there is NO check engine light, whether I'm in regular or sport mode and I can hear NO discernible difference in my cranks, revs and gear shifts. This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the video!
Is it still holding up, I got a 2020 charger RT & starting to hear rattle in my exhaust, was going to order the z automotive active exhaust delete but this would be wayyyy cheaper
I did this to my 2022 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack, and I can't tell any difference. I even have it turned the same way you do. I even got under my car today to see if the Zip Ties held up and I put some new ones to make it tighter. But I hear no difference. I got the springs in a box. I'm tempted on putting them back on and have myself a mid muffler delete done to my car, lol.
Seems on start up there is a slight difference in tone. I think im going to go the mid muffler delete but great video very well done and stright to the point.
I’m pretty sure the mid muffler delete is louder than the vibrant resonators but the vibrant resonators don’t have much rasp. (The rasp is not bad at all for the mid muffler delete) going down the road with the windows down mid muffler sounds great and doesn’t really get raspy at all, or at least I can’t tell from the inside. The only rasp I’ve heard was when doing revs in while parked, otherwise there’s barely any rasp
I’ve had my 21 TA 392 done this way for a few months now and has held up just fine! Update 6/2022- Zip tie came loose on both sides, which caused my valves to not be held snug. Yesterday going down the road I heard a strange rattle at certain RPMs under acceleration and come to find out that was the issue. Still not a $200 investment I care to make on a kit. I’ll swap to wire and wire it open again.
Without the spring the valve will just rattle and move around. The spring keeps it stable and either opened or closed. That’s why you need the zip tie to keep the valve permanently open and not rattling around.
All the other videos say that you turn it counterclockwise to keep them open. Which way is it? I guess you have to test it before you tighten all the nuts down.
So I have not done this but i had code u1140 pop up and this is all that i can find that its related too you have any idea what the issue is or how to fix it?
@@pfmustang The issue with the actuator on my 2015 scat pack I was advised today by the dealership to buy a kit for it. The main issue is that when I bought the car the other day for my wife it sounded really good but after they put a new actuator on it now the car is very quiet.
@@WWFNicky The actuator may have been loose. I read if your actuator is loose (or faulty or damaged and therefore loose), then you can hear a rattling noise at certain speeds/RPMs.
Sometimes you want the exhaust sound but don’t want to drive it in sport since it changes the traction control, steering stiffness and suspension stiffness. Also sport doesn’t keep them 100% open all the time.
Your remote start wont work because of the engine light. I have a 17 charger and when you remove the springs from the active exhaust valves it throws up an CEL.
Am I missing something or can't you just push the sport button and open them up? And have the same effect? Is there really any positive of doing this other than not having to press a button when you start the car each time?
Yes there is. Sport mode only opens it up about 70% and that’s not at idle. In order for the valves to be open all the time you would have to keep the car in track mode which I don’t want to do on the daily. So rather than having to push buttons as soon as I get in the car every time and drive it in track mode, I spent 5 minutes and wired them open, and it’s free 👍🏻
@@adrianrobles8289 Last time that happened to me it was just the valves being dry. I added white lithium grease in spray form and lubed everything up. If the valves keep squeaking you can always do this to permanently fix it, the only issue is the exhaust mode will always be in TRACK even if you're in street. The round spring that tensions things up wont be making that noise, it is more likely that the valve on the inside of the tubing is making the sound from the constant moisture and heat cycling.
Being it’s on the valve and not directly on the pipe, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. I haven’t had any issues so far and neither have a few other people who have done it. But if you have them handy, you can use metal zip ties and really have no problem 👍🏻
It has a little more bite to it.... im going this route now, was gonna go with the z automotive active exhaust delete for $200. Wonder how long the zip tie is going to last...🤔
I don’t do any revs when it’s cold since it’s not good for the motor, but I can send you another cold start clip or some revs next time I drive it if you send me a message on IG
Had mine on for over 6 months and that part doesn’t actually gets hot, but my exhaust started rattling pretty bad and the muffler guy said it was the valve delete. so I’m going to reinstall mine.
It's going to sound the same.. like it does.. because the valve's are open when the car is in park.. that's the default setting on the car during start up..and don't use zip ties on your 50+ thousand dollar car.. take some time and do it right
Why would it throw a code? Nothing is disconnected electronically; it's just removing the 2 springs that actually rotate the small doors open and closed. The system is still connected so the PCM would never notice the difference. It's actually a genius hack by this gentleman, I'm doing my 2021 Scat pack shaker widebody this weekend. Although I'm using stainless steel zip tie bands that will never melt or break. And, saving $200.00 too!
100% you're an idiot. The valve continues to stay open and the actuator still moves open and closed. It operates just like a throttle body. Just because you spent $200 for .30 cents worth of bypass wiring doesn't make you a genius. If you would've taken the time to take apart the actuator you'd know that all it takes is a removing the center spring, fix the exhaust valve, and remount it. I've had it like this for 3 years, the actuator opens and closes like normal, and I have never had a check engine light.
Pure genius! I bought stainless steel zip ties and the tightening gun on Amazon, doing my valves this weekend, thanks for such a money saving "hack". Stellar sir!
Your car still working good or better? Speed and reaction better or not
Bought my first 2022 Challenger RT about 2 weeks ago. After watching your video, I just ran to Harbor Freight to grab some steel zip ties and a little ratchet set. I’ll circle back with the results!
Well I am back and pleased to report that this gentleman absolutely knows what's talking about! I ended up opting to use heavy gauge steel wire to do this as opposed to the steel zip ties, as I found the steel zip ties simply are too rigid to be snugged up tight enough to hold the valve securely. However, I can report that from removing the spring and using the steel wire to keep the valve open, there is NO check engine light, whether I'm in regular or sport mode and I can hear NO discernible difference in my cranks, revs and gear shifts. This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you for the video!
Your check engine is on ?
Yeah is the check engine light on at all?
Is it still holding up, I got a 2020 charger RT & starting to hear rattle in my exhaust, was going to order the z automotive active exhaust delete but this would be wayyyy cheaper
@@TheLifeofKhalilHdid you do it? Have the same model
I did this to my 2022 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack, and I can't tell any difference. I even have it turned the same way you do. I even got under my car today to see if the Zip Ties held up and I put some new ones to make it tighter. But I hear no difference. I got the springs in a box. I'm tempted on putting them back on and have myself a mid muffler delete done to my car, lol.
Best video on this yet
Thank you
Seems on start up there is a slight difference in tone. I think im going to go the mid muffler delete but great video very well done and stright to the point.
Do both! And I appreciate it
I’m pretty sure the mid muffler delete is louder than the vibrant resonators but the vibrant resonators don’t have much rasp. (The rasp is not bad at all for the mid muffler delete) going down the road with the windows down mid muffler sounds great and doesn’t really get raspy at all, or at least I can’t tell from the inside. The only rasp I’ve heard was when doing revs in while parked, otherwise there’s barely any rasp
I’ve had my 21 TA 392 done this way for a few months now and has held up just fine!
Update 6/2022- Zip tie came loose on both sides, which caused my valves to not be held snug. Yesterday going down the road I heard a strange rattle at certain RPMs under acceleration and come to find out that was the issue. Still not a $200 investment I care to make on a kit. I’ll swap to wire and wire it open again.
Awesome!
Which steel wire did you get?
You guys don’t get an active exhaust alert for this ?
@@010many Mine didn't have an error code: 2020 scat pack. I think if you have a 2018 or 2019 and before, this mod will give an error.
Wont it get hot n pop? From the heat??
Why wouldn't you use mechanics wire instead of plastic ties?
1. I was impatient and didn’t have it on me.
2. Others used zip ties and had no issues.
3. Still working fine with no issues.
Why do u need the zip tie ? Why can’t I just remove the spring ?
Without the spring the valve will just rattle and move around. The spring keeps it stable and either opened or closed. That’s why you need the zip tie to keep the valve permanently open and not rattling around.
Just did my 2020 scat definitely make sure NO PLAY with zip ties any bit of play makes a nasty sound 😂
@@marlostanfield8127 gotcha gear I have a 2023 I’m going to end up straight piping the stock exhaust is so quiet I’m extremely underhelmed
Did this yesterday and it worked… the rattle went away and there is no code showing up … 21 rt charger
All the other videos say that you turn it counterclockwise to keep them open. Which way is it? I guess you have to test it before you tighten all the nuts down.
which videos say that ?
How’s the ties holding up
Hello, would this work and not throw a code on a 2017 dodge challenger 5.7
No unfortunately not
So I have not done this but i had code u1140 pop up and this is all that i can find that its related too you have any idea what the issue is or how to fix it?
Hey good evening I just found your video and I’m having the same issue so do I need purchase two one for each side or will one do for all ?
Not sure what issue your referring to
@@pfmustang The issue with the actuator on my 2015 scat pack I was advised today by the dealership to buy a kit for it. The main issue is that when I bought the car the other day for my wife it sounded really good but after they put a new actuator on it now the car is very quiet.
@@WWFNicky The actuator may have been loose. I read if your actuator is loose (or faulty or damaged and therefore loose), then you can hear a rattling noise at certain speeds/RPMs.
will removing the active exhaust fuse throw a code on 2019 and up?
Did you ever try it?
My car threw a code for u1140 mine is a 18 charger scat and i have 75,000 miles is it under warranty?
Doubt it. Ask your dealership though
Thank you so much 😍
🙏🏼
NEWBIE on the HELLCAT stuff,,So what advantages does this do for us !!??
just some more sound, thats all.
Does this work for 2019 scattpack
Yes
The springs do I need to keep them off I put zip ties already n valves open but when I drive cold start makes a sound when I drive then goes away
or drive it in sport ?
Sometimes you want the exhaust sound but don’t want to drive it in sport since it changes the traction control, steering stiffness and suspension stiffness. Also sport doesn’t keep them 100% open all the time.
I’m planning on doing this tomorrow to my charger SRT did the engine light ever come on after you did this??
I just did mine this morning and the engine light is not on, but they say that 2019 and below will show a code.
So far so good
@@williamboone7170 2018 and below
I added it to my srt 392 chally and after a few months got code today u113f
@@IGO0100REALQUICKWhat happens if you don't delete the code?
Do you have to remove the spring?
I have a 17 and gonna give it a go
I think it only works on 19 and up. Without throwing a code anyway.
Correct
@@johnv6806 Hi, what if the code appears and i switch back to stock. Will the code disappear?
@@nicoh3277 you might have to disconnect the battery to reset the computer but it should
Your remote start wont work because of the engine light. I have a 17 charger and when you remove the springs from the active exhaust valves it throws up an CEL.
Will it throw a engine light ?
Nope
Now what fuse is it so I can turn of my engine light
If it’s throwing a code you have a problem!
Can this be done in the 2022s???
Yes 👍🏻
@@pfmustang how about 2019 and 2018 rts
@@franciscoarroyo3192 2018 will throw a vode
I have a 2017 392 I hear 2019 and up won’t show up check engine. Any way to bypass is.
I believe you would need one of the Z Automotive kits in order to do it on a 17 without throwing a code
@@pfmustang can i do it on a 2018 rt and 2019
Do you have a rev limiter
No it revs as high as possible it’s a magic car
What kind of wire would be ideal to use ?
Mechanics wire or metal zip ties
I used picture hanger wire and used the notches on the valve to hold them open.
@@cosmo411 I used stainless steel guitar strings for $5. Lol.
Am I missing something or can't you just push the sport button and open them up? And have the same effect? Is there really any positive of doing this other than not having to press a button when you start the car each time?
Yes there is. Sport mode only opens it up about 70% and that’s not at idle. In order for the valves to be open all the time you would have to keep the car in track mode which I don’t want to do on the daily. So rather than having to push buttons as soon as I get in the car every time and drive it in track mode, I spent 5 minutes and wired them open, and it’s free 👍🏻
Will this throw a code on my 2019 Scatpack?
No it should be good from 2019 and up
Engine light on?
Nope
Love that dark orange
That's Sinnamon
You still getting engine codes?
Never had em
2019 and up no code.
What do about the code from coming on.
There is no code
I have a squeak coming from the valves just don’t know if it’s the spring that’s broken or if it’s the active exhaust lil circle thingy
Any tips?
@adrianrobles8289 I had a similar issue but it sounded like a rattle for me. The spring was broken
@@adrianrobles8289 Last time that happened to me it was just the valves being dry. I added white lithium grease in spray form and lubed everything up. If the valves keep squeaking you can always do this to permanently fix it, the only issue is the exhaust mode will always be in TRACK even if you're in street. The round spring that tensions things up wont be making that noise, it is more likely that the valve on the inside of the tubing is making the sound from the constant moisture and heat cycling.
@@carlosbenitez3619 I did it works but when I step on it sounds like I got a turbo lol idk if it supposed to sound like that after
@@Erick3263hey i have a rattle did you fix it your self or do you have to take it to a shop?
Plastic zip the on a hot exhaust?
Being it’s on the valve and not directly on the pipe, it doesn’t seem to be a problem. I haven’t had any issues so far and neither have a few other people who have done it. But if you have them handy, you can use metal zip ties and really have no problem 👍🏻
And considering the body of the actuator motor is plastic I guess your right.
I did this to my car for some reason a day later got the check engine light, anyone might know why?
What year and did you disconnect the sensor?
Plastic zip ties on a hot exhaust.😂
That still workin!
It has a little more bite to it.... im going this route now, was gonna go with the z automotive active exhaust delete for $200. Wonder how long the zip tie is going to last...🤔
Yup, no point in paying for the aftermarket kits. If the zip tie doesn’t hold I’m just going to replace it with a metal zip tie. Only a couple bucks!
I have some stainless steel tie wire you can have
I did it with actual Phillips delete kit. Zero difference.
Anyway I can hear more revs with it cold started? Instagram or anything
I don’t do any revs when it’s cold since it’s not good for the motor, but I can send you another cold start clip or some revs next time I drive it if you send me a message on IG
There is a problem if I leave the code on
Yes you don’t want a code
@@pfmustang but it affects the operation of the car
No CEL?
Nope
DID IT GET HOT..?
Nope
Y use plastic on a exhaust pipe
Because It’s not directly touching the exhaust pipes, doesn’t get very hot and haven’t had a problem with it in over a year
They make stainless steel zip ties. Should last longer than the plastic ones.
You are correct, just didn’t have any on hand. Got underneath and checked today, still intact and working good 👍🏻
Gosh why am I so dumb I closed it and zip tied it smh thinking it was the opposite
We all make mistakes 🤷🏻♂️
Now wait … the heat will melt the plastic
That's why I would use mechanics wire
Going on a week with mine like this and still holding strong
Not necessarily, but if you're worried about that, go to a truck stop like loves or pilot and we got metal zip ties there
@@christiansaxon1722those metal zip ties are expensive but damnit they’re worth their weight in gold
Had mine on for over 6 months and that part doesn’t actually gets hot, but my exhaust started rattling pretty bad and the muffler guy said it was the valve delete. so I’m going to reinstall mine.
I used stainless steel zip ties
I tried them, couldn’t get them snug enough. Had the regular zip ties on there the whole time and no issues
Wire … not plastic ties 😂😂😂
Still going strong 🤷🏻♂️
It's going to sound the same.. like it does.. because the valve's are open when the car is in park.. that's the default setting on the car during start up..and don't use zip ties on your 50+ thousand dollar car.. take some time and do it right
Lol no knowledge about what you are talking about
@@shinismoove that's because you don't know shit about car's
Just did this to my 2019 rt and the check engine light came on
That’s because it’s a 2019, not compatible
@@pfmustang I ain’t do this I did a active exhaust delete and it came on just took out the springs
I heard that it doesn't work on the 5.7. it'll throw a cel.
@@jeffreynye3019 Yea I just put my springs right back in and it came off
@@lowkeylaflare so does it stay open still with the springs in and zipped tied open?
Plastic Zip ties....hot ass exhaust pipes...should be fine....
So far so good 👍🏻
100% your check engine light will go on. Dont be cheap and just buy the delete kit for $200.
Well a year and a half later I still have no check engine light
Why would it throw a code? Nothing is disconnected electronically; it's just removing the 2 springs that actually rotate the small doors open and closed. The system is still connected so the PCM would never notice the difference. It's actually a genius hack by this gentleman, I'm doing my 2021 Scat pack shaker widebody this weekend. Although I'm using stainless steel zip tie bands that will never melt or break. And, saving $200.00 too!
100% you're an idiot. The valve continues to stay open and the actuator still moves open and closed. It operates just like a throttle body. Just because you spent $200 for .30 cents worth of bypass wiring doesn't make you a genius. If you would've taken the time to take apart the actuator you'd know that all it takes is a removing the center spring, fix the exhaust valve, and remount it. I've had it like this for 3 years, the actuator opens and closes like normal, and I have never had a check engine light.
use safety wire noob.
Still holding up just fine
Will the zip tire not melt
So far so good