Does Everything Happen for a Reason?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ค. 2024
- Does everything happen for a reason? A woman says that it feels like things in her life have happened how and when they happened for a reason. It feels as though it's not random, as though things happen for a reason because they are meant to teach her something. She asks, does God intentionally create manifestations of consciousness in order to wake itself up?
Rupert uses the analogy of a rubber ball that is fully compressed to explain that like the rubber ball, we are contractions of infinite consciousness with a tension in each of us that is always wanting to return us to our natural condition of equilibrium. We experience these impulses to return to our self - the one, or infinite being - as the desire for happiness, or an artists desire for beauty, or a scientist's desire for understanding. The pathway on which it returns is the pathway of each of our lives.
This clip is take from one of Rupert's in-person retreats at Garrison Institute from March 27 - April 3, 2022.
00:00 It Seems Like Thing Happen for a Reason
01:06 Does God Use Manifestation to Wake Up?
01:38 Contractions of Infinite Being
02:28 Desire for Happiness
04:20 Is Destiny Pre-Determined?
06:06 Is It Order or Chaos?
07:04 Time and Space
08:10 Thought and Perception
08:55 A Taste of True Reality
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The women asking the question is Kristin Neff - a researcher in the field of self-compassion. I can recommend you look into her work and read her books.
She’s great and her work is very helpful. As a provider I strongly recommend
Thank you so much!❤
@@johngriffin2814 Is there really a difference?
@@johngriffin2814 omg what a shocking insight yes
Thank you
I like the jazz analogy. Rupert's saying that the song is not written. But the music still "makes sense" to a listener.
I don't get it...Can you elaborate about jazz music analogy?
@@virt477 much of jazz, especially what you might hear in a jazz club, is improvised - there is no sheet music to read - but it all comes together masterfully
If the listener makes sense of the improvised music then it also suggests that the listener is the one that creates reason.
Yes, I get the point about Jazz having a 'non-fixed' intention to the form (music / life) but we must remember that Classical music, too, is not fixed. The score is not a blueprint. Each re-enactment of the piece is a creation. Every player brings his or her interpretive perspective. Some may argue that a work is never simply replayed. Even the listener to a CD recording of Beethoven will bring novelty to the work. Reception plays an important part in any performance. I still haven't found out the Beethoven piece that Rupert was referencing.
I believe this too ! The music is unplanned but always plays in synch - whether our minds can see it or not
"God is a jazz musician." - Rupert Spira
Where’s this quote?!?! I Love It 🥁
Heard It!!! ❤️❤️❤️🥁🤣🤣🙏🏽👍🏽✌🏽
“Are only the important events in a man's life, such as his main occupation or profession, predetermined, or are trifling acts also, such as taking a cup of water or moving from one part of the room to another?” Ramana Maharshi replied, “Everything is predetermined.”
"Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for insects as well as for the stars. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper.“ ~ Albert Einstein
The appearance we call our life
is the spontaneous unfolding
of a predetermined story
of the unchanging formless
coming to realize itself
through ever-changing form
Thank you for your response. Just noticed you have the same name as my brother. I'm Ian White - lol synchronicities eh?
@@mrmensa1096 😱
Thanks for your response, but with all due respect to Einstein & Ramana, what is the 'proof' of Predetermination, (or, also, of free-will)?
I assume their views arise from personal experience (or revelation).
Finally it seems we have to trust our deepest feelings (insights) for an answer.
@@imaginaryuniverse632 @@imaginaryuniverse632 I would say life itself is proof. Most people just don't see it. They're not meant to, because it's not ordained that way. If you were the creator would you make it so everyone knew everything was predetermined?
You have no choice but to act as if you have free will, like you always have been anyway. Predetermination and free will are both one and the same. Sounds strange, I know.
Everything is already written and yet it is being written by us every moment. Everything happens with or without reason. It sounds stupid but it's not.
As a person who is in recovery, using 12 step process, I can totally identify with what she’s saying regarding orchestration of events and situations
Mozart was the ultimate (human) jazz musician. Each composition, whether a song or a symphony, came to him whole, like one huge, magnificent, spontaneous riff. He did not "work things out", or "compose."
That is what we have been told about Mozart, but some of his letters indicate how he struggled with certain work too. Composition was far from plain sailing for him. I'm looking here to see which Beethoven work was referenced in the video? Any ideas?
@@michaelpinder844 Beethoven's "Hymn of Thanksgiving" Op.132
Wow, beautiful explanation. Small doses of Rupert’s wisdom every day guide me to enjoy this live more and more. Thank you 🙏
'A Rupert a day keeps the mind at bay'
Could you please explain it to me?
@@willoschroer Could you please explain it to me?
@@willoschroer So, you didn't understand it, too?
😆@@willoschroer
Love the Jazz analogy. Makes a lot of sense to me as music artist and often feeling like there are patterns and moments in my life that happen for a reason, but its a unfolding improv with the potential for experience like the flow state when creating music.
Exceptional eloquency and intelligence of the questioner, beautiful 👌
She is not anyone , she is Kristen neff ♥️
Thank You. She is Prof. Of Psychology
Wow this was extraordinary. Thank you for sharing this video.
Sheer brilliance! Thanks, Rupert.
Have you ever experienced time and space coming to an end? I haven’t. The key faculty in the experience of time and space appears to me to be memory…..how do you know something is changing (ie. happening in time and space)? Because you retain a memory of how it was a moment ago. Take away memory and it all collapses.
So true. Time is an illusion. We have to use our brains/mind to think about the past or future to organise our lives but only the present moment is real.
I have….I have experienced the totality of the power of now…where all time vanished it felt like heaven on earth. In other words, Christ conciousness. The eternal realm. The only real realm there is. So yes, time IS a man made concept.
@@heatherwall7579 I agree & have had the same insight too!
I’m fine with people being skeptical because it’s great to think for oneself - and ultimately self-inquiry must be subjectively discovered.
But time can indeed be seen as just a concept of thought.
@@dhammaboy1203 can you guys share your drugs out pls? A lot of us are eager to experience this too.
Yes, unborn, undying, everywhere without edge, spaceless, immovable, without ‘other’, absolute alone-ness, infinite power, infinite love, innocent, the ‘peace that passeth all understanding’. 🙏
Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Ask yourself of any moment in your life…’could it have been any other way?’ The answer is NO! everything is determined by our conditioning and each ‘individuals’ world is an exact mirror of that conditioning. It is there to reflect who we are not and eventually bring us home, not that we ever truly left. 🙏❤️
Can you elaborate on that? Thanks. Sometimes reading something described just slightly differently by one person can unfold a whole new understanding.
@@victoria.xseven7913 I will try and elaborate but I’m no teacher, just sharing my understanding.
I think we can all agree that we all see the ‘world’ differently…how can that be?? How can 2 people have a different experience of the same event? How the event is ‘perceived’ is through our own unique filter (conditioning/karma). If we walked around with yellow tinted glasses on we would see everything through that lense, not how it really is.
So our conditioning is making up our experience, not our reality but our experience. Therefore any time life triggers us it is mirroring our own unique conditioning (who we are not). We are then offered the opportunity to not only feel the conditioning but also find a deeper dimension (awareness/who we are)within which the conditioning is being felt. This is why anyone or anything that triggers us is a blessing (not always easy) as they are a mirror for our own unique conditioning. Without them we would never find our way home (not that we’ve ever left). Hope this helps 🙏❤️
@@TheAffrojutty thanks I just didn't know what you meant by "to reflect who we are not". Isn't it usually stated as the opposite that the world literally reflects who we are? I'm interested in your point of view.
@@victoria.xseven7913 Yes that is usually stated (probably not in non duality)and is legit if you believe yourself to be the body/mind. That however is who we are not. We are the awareness in which the body/mind appears.
@@TheAffrojutty ok so this is a non duality perspective? Reality is what we are not?
I'd like to add what I think is a real component if 'miraculous' occurrences discussed here - The One perceiving the message must be of the same frequency that the message is coming in on, to get the message. I understand from other Spiritual leaders (and it makes sense) that these occurrances are happening all the time but we miss most of them without putting our intentional antennae up.. This is why timing has so much to do with it as stated (And staying alert) - that if the husband had passed by seconds earlier or later he would not have noticed.
Yes. And once it all starts coming full circle, u learn that your end is coming. Most of my loops from childhood to adult has closed. I'm now counting days
Its strange what WE are living i am 38 but i still feel i didnt understand nothing
@@rahmasamir909 I'm 39. Life has been grand. But I can't keep up with my past so I must humble my present and take control of the future as much as I am capable to.
@@cndibentertainment2761 live only in the now dont control nothing just be this is the secret of life
observing your thoughts for 5 minutes it's very obvious they just appear spontaneously. everything that appears to awareness is spontaneous in the same way.
I have never heard a better explanation.... thank you so much!
The "Thought and perception" talk @8:11 hits the spot.
Thank you again, Great Blessings 💜 to you and All
I love these qualities. They feel so good
Orchestration is more like Jazz, less like Classical 🙏🙏👏 mm perfect!!!! Thank you lady for the questions, I deeply felt the same questions!
One of the statements she makes is "God wants..." and this is an alarm going off for me every time I here those two words put together. How can an omnipotent being, that ever was, is and shall be, who created everything that was, is and shall be,...... want? Want for what? Listening to someone using those words is not understanding that God can not want for anything, which then should bring about a question to self "Then what else could the answer be?"
To roughly paraphrase the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad (Eckankar Bible): after IT had dreamed into creation all things, IT realized "the atoms of IT'S head were not the same as the atoms at IT'S feet". (IT'S desire- or want- was for all to return to our true home (Spirit or unity) out of the world's of matter (planes of duality) . This is the key: IT loved ALL and gave each free will.
Always go with intuition where the nature of your own existence is concerned...because that's where 'intuition' comes from..
People generally have a very poor understanding of what the word 'infinite' actually means.. This is not any kind of 'fault', but just that we have evolved within the confines of what appears to be a finite environment, and we thus try to look at things in finite ways, also justifying those 'finite' thoughts. When I first approached the 'problem' I had the same difficulties, so it takes our minds a lot of effort to reach another perspective of understanding, but it IS achievable..
Firstly, there cannot be more than one 'instance' of infinitude, otherwise a secondary 'thing' would render them both 'finite'. So we are describing a 'oneness'.. Also, it can have no 'beginning' nor 'ending' as these would also necessitate a secondary 'thing' (or the utter nonsense of a 'nothing'!), so we are describing 'eternity' when we apply 'time' concepts. Then, we have to admit that it can only be the one thing that interconnects all other 'things', and we deduce this to be 'Space', necessarily..
So, in terms of 'numbers', infinitude can only ever be 'one'.. ('Non-duality')
All references to 'size' or 'direction' do not apply to the nature of infinitude, and thus have no relevance to our understanding of the true nature of existence. 'Measurement' has limitations.. When we point to any position in Space, we effectively create a 'beginning' to any subsequent forms of measurement, which only has relevance to the entity desiring to understand said 'measurement'. Measuring things does not make them a main-feature of the nature of reality, only a desire of 'measurement' from a purely Human perspective.
'Math' is another finite aspect, and so has limited usage. It helps us to describe specific positions and calculate certain desirable measurements to ourselves, so that we may use finite reference points, but it breaks down at the level of describing a necessarily infinite reality. Thus, as it is with our 'senses', we need various different kinds of understanding, all working in tandem with each other to produce the 'bigger picture', and we have philosophy and psychology, arts and 'mysticism'/intuition, among others, evolved for this task. However, because we live in an 'expert' driven society, all the 'senses/methods' are at war with each other, jostling for control, when the only true understanding occurs if we emulate nature itself, and work from a foundation of wholeness..
Within infinitude everything appears to be at the 'centre' of that which it finds detectable ('observable').. So, the moment you create the perspective of a 'centre', you become that centre..Here we can find the real problem with using 'mathematics' as a tool for understanding infinite nature. We have to firstly posit the 'points' to be 'measured' in order for the measurement to take place.. And this is why we end up inventing 'things' that do not exist in reality from mathematical constructs that do not describe the truth about nature..
"Commendation from NASA for research work at Massachusetts Institute of Technology on the Earth's atmosphere and the Moon's surface for navigation of the Apollo spacecraft to the Moon..
Dr. Milo Wolff has found the structure of the electron consisting of two spherical quantum waves, one moving radially outward and another moving radially inward. The center of the waves is the nominal location of the electron 'particle'. These waves extend infinitely, like charge force. All 'particle' waves mix and contribute to each other, thus all matter of the universe is interrelated by this intimate connection between the fundamental 'particles' and the universe. The natural laws are a direct consequence of this Wave Structure of Matter (WSM), thus WSM underlies all of science."
spaceandmotion
All methods of attempting to genuinely understand must eventually lead to success, as long as we can whittle each aspect down to that which is necessary. In fact, it may well be that it is a requirement of genuine understanding to approach the 'Allness' of existential questioning from as many necessary aspects as possible, all things existent necessarily converging in truth..
The emphasis should be on genuineness and necessity, not favouring one Human-invented method over another. When it comes to truth, the Human necessity is that we must 'be it to see it', for the very reason that we ARE 'it'..
The importance of the 'mystical' aspect Humanity carries within it, and so has access to, is not 'god' in its many guises, but the intrinsic aspect of infinitude.. 'God' has been our excuse for irresponsibility, leading to false 'authoritarianism', but the real 'enlightenment' occurs when we see how necessary infinitude is.. So 'god' has just been a vehicle, a carrier of genuine understanding, not the truth itself..
Se eu escrever em inglês, vou errar muito! Melhor usar minha língua materna.
Rupert tem uma presença, uma serenidade... até as pausas que ele faz, é muuita luz! Muuita inspiração! Eu sou estudante de Um Curso em Milagres, e nele se fala muito do desaprender, do desfazer as ilusões.... mostra muito os ardis que o ego utiliza pra nos enredar e como perceber e sair disso. É um curso para muito estudo e muito treino mental. Mas tem Um Curso de Amor, que é considerado uma continuação de Um Curso em Milagres, e parece bem mais leve... é mais pra praticar essa presença, esse amor que realmente somos. O Rupert pratica lindamente a mensagem de Um Curso de Amor. É muito bom olhar nos olhos de um mestre assim, e vê-lo tão acessível!🙏❤💙👏👏🙌
Muchísimas gracias!!!!
" It is very difficult, particularly for the Western mind, to understand that life is purposeless. And it is beautiful that it is purposeless. If it is purposeful then the whole thing becomes absurd - then who will decide the purpose? Then some God has to be conceived who decides the purpose, and then human beings become just puppets; then no freedom is possible. And if there is some purpose then life becomes businesslike, it cannot be ecstatic.
The West has been thinking in terms of purpose, but the East has been thinking in terms of purposelessness. The East says life is not a business, it is a play. And a play has no purpose really, it is nonpurposeful. Or you can say play is its own purpose, to play is enough. Life is not reaching towards some goal, life itself is the goal. It is not evolving towards some ultimate; this very moment, here and now, life is ultimate.
Life as it is, is accepted in the East. It is not moving towards some end, because if there is some end who will decide the end and why? If God decides it, then you can ask the same question about God: “What is the purpose of creating a world with purpose?” or, “Why should he create a purposive world?” or even more deeply, “What is the purpose of God’s existence?”
Maybe life has a purpose and God decides the purpose, but then God’s existence has to be questioned - why he exists - and that way the question is simply pushed one step ahead. Then God becomes purposeless, or you have to create another God to decide the purpose of this God. Then you will be in a regress ad infinitum, then there is no end to it. Somewhere deep down you will have to come to the conclusion that this phenomenon is purposeless; otherwise there is no end.
So why go from the world to the God? Why not say that life itself is purposeless? The whole game of logicians, theologicians, is stupid in a way. They say, “God created the world, because how could the world come into existence if there was no one who created it?” But the question can be asked, “Who created the God?” - and then they fall on their own. They say, “God is uncreated.” If God can exist without being created, why can’t this life itself exist without being created? If you accept that something is possible without being created, then what is the trouble? Then why think about a God who created the world?
The East says God is not the creator, God is the creation. Nobody has created it, it is there. It has been so always, it will be so always - sometimes manifest, sometimes unmanifest; sometimes visible, sometimes invisible. It goes on moving in a periodical rhythm, in a circle. But existence itself is uncreated and it has no goal.
Then think about it in other ways also. Firstly, if there is a goal why hasn’t it been achieved yet? The existence has been existing timelessly, millions and millions of light-years it has existed, and the goal has not been reached yet. When will it be reached? If so many millions and millions of light-years have passed and the goal is nowhere to be seen, when will it be reached? Secondly, if some day the goal is reached, what will happen to existence? Will it disappear? When the purpose is fulfilled, then what? Conceive of a moment somewhere in the future when the purpose is fulfilled: for what will existence exist then? Then it will be purposeless for it to exist.
The reality is this: that it is already always purposeless. There is no goal towards which the existence is moving. It is moving, but not towards any goal. It has a value, but the value is not in the end, the value is intrinsic."
agree greatly. But: as human we are still puppets... free will is a sort of illusion, and we have a shared being. That's also the eastern way.
You definitely wrote an entire page from Osho.
@Simply Myself I agree, misperception, or superimposition. Yes.
@Simply Myself but from the point of view of a person or ego, there is no free will. From the point of view of awareness, of course, it's another story
@@daotheeternalnamelessbeyon8778 yes. that is why I put it in quotations.
The infinite ever-existing presence of consciousness is beyond the mind's comprehension.
We must contract the sense of separate self into a non-dual understanding and at the same time expand consciousness to understand the multiplicity within consciousness itself.
Thank you friend/brother/master Rupert for expanding my understanding.
who contracts.... ?
If it is 'beyond the mind's comprehension', how do you know it is true? And if something is already infinite, how can it 'expand'?
The man you are blindly following is a charlatan, merely trying to keep you in a state of confusion.. The motivation for remaining in such a state is that it brings some kind of superficial comfort..The illusion of 'progress', whilst actually remaining where you are..
@@fluentpiffle 1. YOU DON'T NEED YOUR MIND ( WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAN THOUGHT AND MEMORIES) TO REALIZE THAT U EXIST . IF U WOULDN'T EXIST THEN WHO WOULD ASK THIS Q IN THE FIRST PLACE.
2. HE NEVER SAID THE INFINITE EXPANDS HE SAID IT CONTRACTS AND WE THE INFINITE GET THE EXPERIENCE OF OUR SELF AND LIMITED SELF.
U ARE INFINITE CONSCIOUSNESS/ AWARENESS ALONE. - RAMAN MAHARISHI
@@fluentpiffle 😊
@@Nirmala1975 Exactly the kind of answer to be expected from someone who believes their own mind is surplus to requirements.. Let us hope this charlatan is proud of his work..
42 years old.
Never ever
have I been
in a relationship.
I die of the shame
and the grief of this...
I don't know what's wrong with me? I can't figure it out.
Am I not good looking enough?
But I observe couples all around me,
and they are most certainly NOT together
for each other's looks...
So what the fuck is it then? Why? Why not me?
I absolutely die of the shame
and the grief and the confusion...
Stop this you are resisting your expérience and u make your self unhappy i have been in many relations it was m'y source of sadness
What a wonderfull answer☀️
Brilhante 🤗🤗🤗
Chaos is the order of nature that mind can't see.
The woman is Dr Kristin Neff
I've come the conclusion that no one knows anything, not even Rupert. To know means to rely upon knowledge which is strictly to do with the ego mind built up through past human conditioning. The mind is literally incapable of knowing the unknowable from which all this phenomena arises.
Well said. I agree.
The best I've heard, this!
We are being drawn back through thick and thin while our tension is released? And yet this still delineates a path of return. To what? To something that is not lost and to whom it does not refer. For it is this apparent ‘who’ who is the problem! Talk about a paradox!
Love the rubber ball analogy
On 22 7 of the last year my brother died. Today an Aunt of mine died. And my first nephew, daughter of my son, asked "isn't it strange that they died the same day?". Yes, God is a jazz player. And when I feel the "no time spaceness" it happens something... Today I feel a lot of things coming, not good or bad but energy. And I must stay open
What a brilliant analogy!!! Personally I believe we chose everything we experience before life but that allows us to be completely detached and spontaneous in the moment as the cards will always fall where they’re meant to.
there is no "We" to decide anything. The seperate self you think you are doesn't make decisions or choices. There is no "before" or "after" life to refer to. Time is an illusion, it's not real. You are not a person having an experience, you ARE the experience itself. It's like a movie. You are not the director of the movie, you are the movie. Actually, more like you're the movie screen. Keep listening to Rupert and meditate on this as much as you can. Understanding will hit you eventually.
@@musicproductioncentral4540 WoW 💡👌🏽
@@musicproductioncentral4540 great pointer❤️
@@musicproductioncentral4540 I had two NDE's and saw that I agreed to this life. I agreed to face great human evil in this human life and the challenge was to remember who we ALL are. It is not the egoic "I" that agreed, it was pure awareness that agreed, or "I AM" agreed. There was no judgement at all. Just total acceptance, pure awareness, pure unconditional love. There was no time, everything was simultaneous and I was aware of multiple lives at once. Our true essence can project a bit of itself into multiple experiences/realms simultaneously.
@@annemurphy8074 wow!
Thanks 👌
Some real crap has happened in my life and none of it has made my life better. Returning to the infinite being has not been peaceful or even pleasant.
Nobody really knows the the truth behind the mysteries of life.
@Simply Myself Actually it’s not “obvious” nor all in “plain view.”Humans only perceive a limited degree of reality and it’s all filtered through conditioned minds. “I think I’ll just let the mystery be.”
@Simply Myself Ahhh, “the proper perspective,” and who gets to decide what that”proper perspective” is? I just don’t trust another human to be my final authority…nothing personal I assure you.✌️
@SIMPLY MYSELF The Simple Man this last comment, damn. absolutely true
@SIMPLY MYSELF The Simple Man excellently put
Rupert and Eckhart...the best spiritual comedy duo, standup act in the 4th and a half dimension......these guys are hilarious.🤣
what's your point? no one is laughing here I don't think
❤️Letting Life be Jazz Music
I honestly believe that being so easy and passive and compassionate actually contributes to the states which we want to change to further stay as they are. But I believed for a long time it is the way.
True compassion is not passiveness.
There are a lot of comments on Rupert’s videos that are loaded with ‘spiritual oneupmanship’, and they’re so easy to spot. 😮
We are contractions of infinite consciousness - We are already all that is.
What Beethoven piece was it that I wrote to Thank God for his life?
Perhaps the string Quartet op. 132, 3rd movement.
@@paulmetdebbie447 Is that a guess or do you know for sure?
It was the Kreutzer Sonata. th-cam.com/video/p-2_vplJIVw/w-d-xo.html
Or it might be the beginning of the ninth symphony.
Very peculiar that Rupert doesn't care to specify.
@@KarimaCynthiaClayton yes, it is. String quartet op. 132 3rd: Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart: Molto adagio--Neue Kraft fühlend: Andante. Google translation: Sacred song of thanksgiving to the deity of a convalescent, in the Lydian key: Molto adagio--Feeling new strength: Andante.
yes, it is. String quartet op. 132 3rd: Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart: Molto adagio--Neue Kraft fühlend: Andante. Google translation: Sacred song of thanksgiving to the deity of a convalescent, in the Lydian key: Molto adagio--Feeling new strength: Andante.
I read that classical musicians (beethoven/bach era) used to improvise also using compositions or melodic structures that were generally known
Thank you so much, Rupert!❤️
Wow 🤩
I’ve always felt things in my life always happen as it’s supposed to , I feel like I meet certain people when I’m supposed to and I end relationship with people when I’m supposed to, as if people come in my live and serve their purpose if if it’s temporary
That's all well and good until you get robbed/abused/shot. Not upside to that. Just think, as I type this reply, people are going through hell, I don't think that your distorted upbeat anecdote would resonate with them.
@@mediacenterman8583 things of such also happened to me in my life, but I also realized my part in it as well. When you sit and actually obverse your thoughts, beliefs you’ll see how certain things even bad things play out. It’s really about become aware and once your aware you learn!
Looking for friends to connect with in the Ohio United States area. I hope to make friends who understand this basic and simple principle of our true essence 🙏🏻✨
deep
This feels like a Deep breathe...Wow!
The value and power of interpretation: things happen for us to learn from them, to interpret them and reinterpret them. And if we don't, we suffer: we judge them good or bad (original sin), or we simply don't care and miss out (spiritually asleep).
Socrates: unexamined life is not worth living. Meaning: there is not much point to craving more and more experiences unless we examine them, and interpret them.
Again Socrates: Know that you don't know. Don't call what happened bad (even being condemned to drink the hemlock). Instead, reinterpret it and get closer to truth. At the limit, we love it all. Like God. Both classical and jazz :-)
Everything comes and goes. The good events and the not good events. We have choices. The person we met or not met.
There is no such thing as choice. Everything is predetermined. What you view as a choice was already an action that was going to be taken anyway.
Time and space are local as well as global phenomena that apply to the concepts of matter and energy from the ultra small to the supra large.
They depend upon the creation-maintenance-dissolution narrative that forms the basis of the entity called God.
More specifically, the consciousness that spira speaks about is not based upon this, our material universe; matter and energy and intermediate forms are actually epi-phenomena of consciousness. Ruminating on that a bit will throw light upon why local consciousness (the subjective) always precedes global consciousness (the objective).
La vie s'efforce à soi même vivre et à faire l’expérience d'elle même le plus diversifié possible, que ce soit en tant que matière, en tant qu’esprit ou quoi que ce soit.
Looking back on my significant life experiences, they definitely seem like destiny fulfilled.
Life is about possibilities and probabilities. If one can understand how the Big Bang came in to existence, so the similarity of our life and all situations come along.
Thanks for that thought. I don’t think so though. Life LOOKS LIKE possibilities and probabilities but in fact there is a Divine order to everything. I think…
Heard that most mainstreams scientists now disagree with the Big Bang theory..
It seems to me that everything we perceive unfolds from the big bang or something similar. Hence ancestors descendants and evolution etc. I wonder how that fits
Most mainstreams scientists nowadays are against the Big Banf Theory - as for evolution, again another theory that mathematically / probability speaking is very unlikely as the numbers and timescale don't match up - plus many other things. Peace.
We are here to experience. That’s it. Whatever meaning or purpose we assign to our experience is up to us. But it isn’t universal. The universal thing is we are here to experience. You can use the experience to pursue your desires or learn your lessons or both. It isn’t something you have to do. The reason it feels like we are returning to our self is because being limited in this 3D human body, our connection to who we are is immediately limited, so it is like a shock to our true nature and feels very alien. But it is not to return to our self but to express who we really are. Curiosity as a disembodied awareness is why we bother to come here. After this life is another experience. It keeps going forever. There is no purpose except for infinity to experience limitation in order to be something other than itself. And it gets to talk to something else besides itself. It’s all an imagined pretending game. One being dreaming of engaging with another being, so it pretends it is an individual encountering other individuals. Just like when we go to sleep to dream. Everyone in the dream is our invented character. The dialogue between us and them is invented by us. We are really talking to ourselves in our dreams. So this existence is like a gigantic dream imagined by infinity.
If there is only the Absolute and creation is but a dream, then everything that happens within creation must be a function of the Absolute, who is the “reason” behind all happenings, and not the dream characters.
what was the Beethoven piece he referred to?
“Beethoven inscribed the transcendent third movement of his Op. 132 String Quartet with the descriptive title, “Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart” (Holy song of thanksgiving of a convalescent to the Deity, in the Lydian Mode).”
I think the lady asking the question knows more than the guy on stage. He is causing her to stray from the truth.
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A touch of Jazz improvisation there, dr, susheel
His analogy of the rubber ball is amazing but I'd say he's assuming we're all heading towards this "oneness" thing. Given that experience is so unique for each of us I don't see why a kind of supreme experience or supreme state of being wouldn't be as individuated as our own. Why can't I experience everything on my own? Surely I have to experience everything on my own? Why does my being need to be smushed together with other peoples being?
i will want Rupert to sit down with Rabbi Simon Jacobson. Their concepts are completely different but they all claim is true. i will want to know how they explain their differences.
Which Beethoven piece is Rupert referring to? Ode to joy?
It’s this I believe-> “Beethoven inscribed the transcendent third movement of his Op. 132 String Quartet with the descriptive title, “Heiliger Dankgesang eines Genesenen an die Gottheit, in der lydischen Tonart” (Holy song of thanksgiving of a convalescent to the Deity, in the Lydian Mode).”
@@PersephoneRising333 Ah a string quartet, of course..! Thank you.
Everything happens for a reason. Unless it does not.
If God was not a vague concept in the minds, but as a way of life and an active part of our conscious, unconscious and subconscious mind. God being the reason for all good and even ill (for the good) that happens in our life, would help direct us towards understanding what that God wants from us too and what we need to do as well.
Sorry, but that don't sound very pleasant.
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Yes, but she had tons of Classical training before venturing into bebop!
what beethoven piece is he talking about? i d love to listen to it
The only genuine reason 'things happen' is that existence is infinite (energy-wave motions), thus 'eternal' when we apply a 'time' concept, so anything that has possibility in existence WILL occur, given the infinitude of motion that exists in which those possibilities can unfold..
It is disingenuous to say that everything is 'consciousness'. This comes from the belief that we need some kind of 'divine intervention' in order to 'do the right thing'.
But we have thousands of years of empirical evidence that this is not the case, apart from the fact that our genuine method of enquiry, deduction from necessity, points to consciousness not even being a universal requirement at all, just a possibility like all other forms of existence.. Indeed, we see no evidence for it anywhere in the rest of existence, and it may in fact also be another human-invented term for something that does not even exist, in reality.. The plausibility factor leads us to the latter conclusion. Therefore, the most plausible solution to the 'consciousness' issue, deduced from necessity, is that consciousness is simply another evolving aspect of the motions of space (energy). As, to posit anything 'else' is simply unnecessary..
"We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances." (Sir Isaac Newton, Principia: The system of the world)
All false 'morality' must inevitably dissolve into hypocrisy when it is not founded on truth.. And indeed, this is exactly what has happened within current 'society'.. We 'do the right thing' only when we have genuine understanding of what the 'right thing' is.. When we are forced to take responsibility for our own actions, we do so, because any other action would be understood as one of insanity, leading to self-destruction, which it currently is, and as Nietzsche was able to intuit..
"There is nothing more necessary than truth, and in comparison with it everything else has only secondary value. This absolute will to truth: what is it? Is it the will to not allow ourselves to be deceived? Is it the will not to deceive? One does not want to be deceived, under the supposition that it is injurious, dangerous, or fatal to be deceived."
(Friedrich Nietzsche, 1890)
"And isn't it a bad thing to be deceived about the truth, and a good thing to know what the truth is? For I assume that by knowing the truth you mean knowing things as they really are. The philosopher is in love with truth, that is, not with the changing world of sensation, which is the object of opinion, but with the unchanging reality which is the object of knowledge. Truthfulness. He will never willingly tolerate an untruth, but will hate it as much as he loves truth. ... And is there anything more closely connected with wisdom than truth? The object of knowledge is what exists and its function to know about reality." (Plato)
"The fundamental element of the cosmos is Space. Space is the all-embracing principle of higher unity. Nothing can exist without Space. .. According to ancient Indian tradition the Universe reveals itself in two fundamental properties: as Motion and as that in which motion takes place, namely Space. This Space is called Akasa .. derived from the root kas, 'to radiate, to shine', and has therefore the meaning of ether which is conceived as the medium of movement. The principle of movement, however, is Prana, the breath of life, the all-powerful, all-pervading rhythm of the universe." (Lama Anagarika Govinda, 1969)
"Choose only one master, Nature." (Rembrandt)
'Consciousness' does not create anything. It is only possible to be 'conscious' of that which actually exists.. You can create any kind of delusion you like in your mind, but you cannot be 'conscious' of things that do not actually exist.
Beyond 'observation' there is then the process of 'interpretation', and this is where most people fail themselves..and unconsciously produce the very evidence that 'consciousness' is not 'everywhere'..
"History abundantly shows that people's views of the universe are bound up with their views of themselves and of their society. The debate in cosmology has implications far beyond the realm of science, for it is a question of how truth is known. How these questions are answered will shape not only the history of science, but the history of humanity." (Eric Lerner, 1992)
Patterns within spontaneity.
Only because it's impossible that nothing happens do things happen imho. Life cannot stand still. There is no other reason I think. It all equals out in the end, good and bad, they are interdependent. So in my opinion there is no real intrinsic reason for anything to happen.
yes opportunity not for a reason...fits with my experience of karma. so easy to think everything is about us when actually very little is it appears. This is the ego grasping for importance perhaps.
It cannot be measured. It is not horizontal. It is shapeless. It has no name. And you are it.
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Someone said that things to happen for a reason . Things happen because of a reason. Either way I don't know and life can be cruel and thats the truth of the matter.
The reason things happen to oneself is because one perceives oneself to be at the fulcrum of the happenings. But do not all of the choices and decisions we make, take us directly to what happens to us? So the “reason” for the happenings is I. And this is why it “feels” as though these things that happen to us must have a reason, because we perceive ourselves as being at the centre of everything that happens to us, we want to give it, ourselves, meaning. Our interpretation of what happens is up to us, to use for good or Ill, where we have the power to. But I doubt that people who were caught up in programs for example, felt as though it happened to them, for some reason that they were meant to learn from. That is not to say that there is not a lesson to be learned, in history, from giving power to one who would execute such.
Nothing is real....but your experience is.
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This is a genuine doubt, anybody please answer me.
Why do spiritual people look so boring? Like, they look so lazy and inactive and slow.
Jazz or classical, it's all an algorithm. It's all a cause and effect analogy for our binary brain. It's one thing to say...I saw Top Gun Maverick but completely different when we start describing its parts. The sum of the whole is different from individual parts. Unity is a collection of many binary events.
It is an illusion cuz our cognitive faculty has only evolved to decipher piecemeal and not in one go. So, it appears as a lesson learnt at the end of the event.
This question is more related to our biological n evolutionary capability or should I say limitations.
At the end of it, it's just life lifeing.
What is a new born baby?
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The point is, is that there is no point.
Why are so many asleep?
The pleasant experiences attract us while the unpleasant experiences push us but both serve the same goal which is to return us to our natural state...
Which state is that
No. Life is spontaneous and random. Nothing i s controlling in the external
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the bag of consciousness wants to know what it is...when it is
God is a jazz musician not a classical musician 😀😍
Nothing happens by chance and you have no free will, now move on, jeez…
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