Plus grogs a barbarian, and is as smart as an ape with an intelligence stat of 6 so his instincts can guide him on a general idea of we’re to throw his axe attacks.
i mean, they have the most HP and rage halves physical damage (all damage aside from psychic if it's a totem of the bear barbarian). so yeah, usually they CAN take it.
It is actually pretty clever. Holding Sylas there in the radius of Keyleth's sunlight not only stops him dodgeing, but also prevents him using any of his vampiric powers, such as regeneration or transforming into mist. All he's left with is his raw strength trying to escape a grapple from a raging barbarian.
Funny thing is, in the stream keyleth hugged Silas from behind before blasting him with sunbeam point blank and talesin said “you’re killing him with hugs? That’s the most keyleth thing ever”
@@ProteusChris Love this part is Sylas confused with Grog about he’s not trying to seduce him to be mind control like he’s a gay pervert! That’s so funny that the big guy doesn’t know how about mind-controlling works for a vampire. 1:09
Fun fact: The part of the Music that plays as Keyleth kills Silas, ramps up to the part where in 'Your Turn to Roll' gets to the "Villains beware cuz you're about to be dead".
In a world were there are Mages ,Druids and Goliaths I really don't see the benefit of becoming a vampire, especially as they tend to have vulnerabilities that are exploited pretty easily.
So, SYlas became a vampire because he died of a disease and Delilah failed to save him in time. She made a pact with Vecna to bring him back. It wasn't really much of a choice. Alternative was his death. With that said, Sylas without a doubt became stronger for it. The two of them nearly wiped out Vox Machina once before. It's also important to note that while yeah, Vampires do have weaknesses, they have plenty of strengths too and being a regular human being... I mean it's not like he'd fared a lot better getting hit with a sun-ray like that, odds are it'd killed a regular bloke anyway.
@@TheIfifi Yes ,but there were a host of other species that made the ‘benefit’ of being a vampire meaningless when it meant it just gave your enemies Ore ways to kill you. I mean, signing on with Dark Forces in this world means you do all the work to achieve the benefits for your patron and receive little benefits while the heroes can foal you and you receive ALL of the detriments while your sponsor still sits pretty comfortable in their position.
@@NickJohnCoop I think you'll notice that most people don't enter contract with Dark Forces because they're feeling a bit down, usually there is a much greater purpose behind it, coercion or personal weakness like with Sylas. If you have a being who is generally more powerful than a vampire, I don't reckon they'd turn into a vampire either? Usually people who become vampires improve, they were weaker before and stronger after. It's not like you'd see very powerful being decide to turn to vampirism, it's regarded as a curse for a reason, it does have obvious weaknesses. It's also worth pointing out that just about everything is weak to something, Vampires are just well known to be weak to specific things. They're also resilient towards others. Finally, there is also the note that vampirism is an addition to what you already are. Imagine how powerful a goliath vampire would be. Yes they'd have weaknesses, we've been over this but the strengths are very impressive too.
Normally Vampire in dnd are stupidly strong. Even if they die you have to find the sarcophagus to really kill them otherwise they will spawn back It also set your physicak stats at 18/18/18 if they were lower, give you mist and bat form, ability to wall climb, perfect dark vision And the charm skill is really stupid as its a free 24hours mind control ability that is hard to stop if you fail the saving throw without the drawback of remembering the spell lile charl person
Honestly With the charm ability a vampire can become extremely dangerous as long as they aren't stupid Like with Cassandra They had an agent in the resistance who was perfectly loyal to them thanks to the charm ability Same with Vax As long as the vampire doesn't become too obvious until the time is right they could take over the world Like he almost did with charming the sovereign
I love that Grog is consistently highly resistant to mental influence. He fights Anders' influence for a good few seconds before he slips under when Vex, Keylith and Vax are controlled instantly while knowing mind control is a possibility. He holds against Silas' control for long enough to try closing his eyes, when Uriel was easily influenced, Vax had to be snapped out both times, and Cassandra could only break through it with the turmoil of fighting Percy. And as soon as he's told Cravenedge is influencing him, he's able to fight free of the control it tries to exert too.
Uh, he was almost completely under the influence of Craven Edge. It took him stabbing Pike by accident to snap him out of it. My man was ready to 1v1 an elder dragon because the sword told him to. He only fights off its influence after it made him severely wound Pike and the distress and regret overpowered the sword's influence. Not a great example.
But, when he stabbed Pike it did snap him out of it. And that doesn't actually relate to what I said, because I said once he's told, which happens after that point.
Loved this bit. The only thing I think would make it perfect is if Delilah's scream for Sylas started muted, because of Scanlan's spell, and then broke/exploded out of it because of her pure anguish in watching her husband die.
I love this show but I have to say a couple things that drove me nuts. 1. They nurfed Grog big time. Dude only hit the ground like 3 or 4 times in the entire stream and in the show he got ragdolled left and right. The only time he didn't get sent flying was when Anders took control of him. 2. They juiced Pike big time. She is powerful in the stream but in this show she 1v1ed Delilia.
they explained in the s1 rewatch that the reason Grog gets thrown around so much is that if he WAS allowed to stand face to face with any of the primary antagonists they would just go down right away. Case in point, Grog literally lands An hit vs Sylas and its enough to turn the whole fight around.
There's a fair bit of shifting of power within the group for tv. Some classes are just balanced to be more effective in battle and have much less utility, and that doesn't make for a satisfying tv show. And frankly, some of the players just weren't effective in combat early on, either because they didn't know the new system, weren't adapting well, or because of poor character choices - but they just weren't. That's ok in DnD where so much more roleplay than rollplay occurs, where characters can shine in the little moments, but in a TV adaptation where we don't have time for them, you have to let those characters shine in a way they didn't necessarily in the game. Some of the coolest moments in game happen because the dice go on a hot streak and everything works out. It's hard to portray that in TV, because the threat of failure isn't there in the same way. Scanbo was awesome in real life, but if portrayed correctly on TV it would just make scanlan look like a marty stu - we don't see the dice rolls so we wouldn't know how lucky he was to succeed at those key moments or how close he came to failure - we'd just see him waltz into a heavily guarded home, make a mockery of a dozen guards and their goliath Lord, and burn the place down with everyone inside *without taking a point of damage*. The fact that it was outrageous, impossible, and almost insultingly easy was *awesome* in the game, because it was clear that Scanlan *wasn't* a Marty Stu, that he could well die if things went badly, that he had no plan or anything, and just got incredibly lucky and made some very clever choices at the perfect moments. I don't think there's any way to portray that in TV for people who didn't watch it happen in the game.
Then you should see the first episodes before Percival's Arc. They go to a dwarven city and find some stuff outta a horror show. Oh yeah and Tiberius is there
Delilah may have loved his Sylas and would’ve done anything to save him. But that doesn’t make her a good person. She was cruel to other people and destroyed several other families slaughtering them and forcing them to become slaves in their kingdom. She would execute children just to make an example out of them. She’s kinda like Kingpin from Into the Spider-Verse, we sympathize with her, but it doesn’t justify her actions and we sympathize much more with her victims. At the end of the day she is irredeemable for what she did.
So sylas is still kinda in his own sanity, Except his not really sane and is an antagonist. While holding craven edge? If grog mastered craven edge to the point it boosted his strength and still control the bloodthirsty blade, Then we will see a barbaric grog who enjoys battle more than anyone else in the series.
It's a perk of animation but it is very fun to see lower level heroes work it to get *one* hit on the bad guy. Just deal him like eight points of damage. Bad guy has tons more and is confused why you put so much effort in just do cut my fing-earheahAAHH! and then that was just a distraction and they get weakness-blasted. generic beuiser who got one shot in at the cost of nearly all of his hp: "nice eighteen int but it dont take ten of those to know you're an idiot for not killing me at the start of this and moving on"
Mean if I was being bearhugged by a barbarian with the intent to kill and being lit on fire (fire that could actually permanently kill me) I'd probably panic a bit. Also I don't recall Sylas actually using either of those abilities in the series.
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You know funnily enough mechanically this makes sense. Blind= Disadvantage Reckless Attacks= Advantage so it cancels out.
Plus grogs a barbarian, and is as smart as an ape with an intelligence stat of 6 so his instincts can guide him on a general idea of we’re to throw his axe attacks.
Plus Sylas would already have advantage due to him closing his eyes, so there's virtually no downside to reckless attack!
@@user-cx9un9fs7q instincts is wisdom, so at a wis of 10 he was good!
Or the reckless attack could be flavored as him closing his eyes and swinging wildly
Yeah, I love that 😂
"I can take it!" Ah yes, the good old barbarian mindset
That and "There is always a big enough axe"
i mean, they have the most HP and rage halves physical damage (all damage aside from psychic if it's a totem of the bear barbarian). so yeah, usually they CAN take it.
@@blaze4111 He's a Berserker Barbarian. But yes he is the one who could tank basically anything that would kill anyone else there.
@@crazyscotsman9327 i am aware, just talking about barbarians in general.
Yeah but he surly did take it tho I mean damn
When Sylas goes, "Not tired of losing to me, oaf?" My gut response is " You fought once, and your twilight candy ass ran away"
Twice, remember he sucker punches Grog at the very beginning of this one
Edit: my bad, that was Delilah
Grog Strongjaw: Tactical Genius
*_"Real Men Hug!"_*
It is actually pretty clever. Holding Sylas there in the radius of Keyleth's sunlight not only stops him dodgeing, but also prevents him using any of his vampiric powers, such as regeneration or transforming into mist. All he's left with is his raw strength trying to escape a grapple from a raging barbarian.
Funny thing is, in the stream keyleth hugged Silas from behind before blasting him with sunbeam point blank and talesin said “you’re killing him with hugs? That’s the most keyleth thing ever”
I love how the vampire is completely caught off guard, only grog would think that was seduction XD
To be fair it does kinda sound like it in a way
I mean, when you deliver lines as smooth as butter and you’re up against a guy who is friends with Scanlan, should you be surprised?
How to break concentration
1:13
Matt's genuine confused delivery really sells the joke
The fact that Sylas appears completely unaware of how sexual he seems is hilarious to me 😂
Its likely because that was actual confusion on his part and the other players were struggling not to laugh.
Matt is very good with deliveries.
Classic Grog 😂
Well, That's probably the most humiliating way to die for the most badass villain in the Series.
I mean really..
He got killed by hugging!!!
Well, he basically went out like Raditz.
@@gigacanno750 they even animated little rings that looked like the special beam cannon too 😂
@@Dyundu I can sorta see it.
in the original stream, the cast all sang "Let the sun shine in" to really rub it in lmfao
I wouldn’t call this a hug but…it dose make it more hilarious
“I can take it!” The barbarian’s motto
Grog Strongjaw: Don’t try and seduce me!
Sylas Briarwood: What?! I’m not trying to…
Sylas : Grog-senpai *blushes*
Well then, task failed successfully.
Grog ain’t nobodies side piece 😂
No he isn't lol and sylas found out the hard way.
@@ProteusChris Love this part is Sylas confused with Grog about he’s not trying to seduce him to be mind control like he’s a gay pervert! That’s so funny that the big guy doesn’t know how about mind-controlling works for a vampire. 1:09
@Richard Thang maybe he just doesn't do goliath he was acting like a gay pervert to vax lol
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Fun fact: The part of the Music that plays as Keyleth kills Silas, ramps up to the part where in 'Your Turn to Roll' gets to the "Villains beware cuz you're about to be dead".
Real man hug 😆 Gotta love this guys
Keyleth is taking in sunlight!
Kelyeth used SOLARBEAM!
Pike straight up hits delilah with the ol final flash
The seduction line is one I will hold onto forever.
In a world were there are Mages ,Druids and Goliaths I really don't see the benefit of becoming a vampire, especially as they tend to have vulnerabilities that are exploited pretty easily.
So, SYlas became a vampire because he died of a disease and Delilah failed to save him in time. She made a pact with Vecna to bring him back. It wasn't really much of a choice. Alternative was his death.
With that said, Sylas without a doubt became stronger for it. The two of them nearly wiped out Vox Machina once before. It's also important to note that while yeah, Vampires do have weaknesses, they have plenty of strengths too and being a regular human being... I mean it's not like he'd fared a lot better getting hit with a sun-ray like that, odds are it'd killed a regular bloke anyway.
@@TheIfifi Yes ,but there were a host of other species that made the ‘benefit’ of being a vampire meaningless when it meant it just gave your enemies Ore ways to kill you.
I mean, signing on with Dark Forces in this world means you do all the work to achieve the benefits for your patron and receive little benefits while the heroes can foal you and you receive ALL of the detriments while your sponsor still sits pretty comfortable in their position.
@@NickJohnCoop I think you'll notice that most people don't enter contract with Dark Forces because they're feeling a bit down, usually there is a much greater purpose behind it, coercion or personal weakness like with Sylas.
If you have a being who is generally more powerful than a vampire, I don't reckon they'd turn into a vampire either? Usually people who become vampires improve, they were weaker before and stronger after.
It's not like you'd see very powerful being decide to turn to vampirism, it's regarded as a curse for a reason, it does have obvious weaknesses.
It's also worth pointing out that just about everything is weak to something, Vampires are just well known to be weak to specific things. They're also resilient towards others.
Finally, there is also the note that vampirism is an addition to what you already are. Imagine how powerful a goliath vampire would be. Yes they'd have weaknesses, we've been over this but the strengths are very impressive too.
Normally Vampire in dnd are stupidly strong.
Even if they die you have to find the sarcophagus to really kill them otherwise they will spawn back
It also set your physicak stats at 18/18/18 if they were lower, give you mist and bat form, ability to wall climb, perfect dark vision
And the charm skill is really stupid as its a free 24hours mind control ability that is hard to stop if you fail the saving throw without the drawback of remembering the spell lile charl person
Honestly
With the charm ability a vampire can become extremely dangerous as long as they aren't stupid
Like with Cassandra
They had an agent in the resistance who was perfectly loyal to them thanks to the charm ability
Same with Vax
As long as the vampire doesn't become too obvious until the time is right they could take over the world
Like he almost did with charming the sovereign
The true signs of barbarians “I can take it!” And “Real men hug!”
It's weird seeing grog without a beard
This is such an epic scene. Bring on season two already!!
It’s out
AND GROG AND CRAVEN EDGE BEGINS!
I love that Grog is consistently highly resistant to mental influence.
He fights Anders' influence for a good few seconds before he slips under when Vex, Keylith and Vax are controlled instantly while knowing mind control is a possibility.
He holds against Silas' control for long enough to try closing his eyes, when Uriel was easily influenced, Vax had to be snapped out both times, and Cassandra could only break through it with the turmoil of fighting Percy.
And as soon as he's told Cravenedge is influencing him, he's able to fight free of the control it tries to exert too.
Uh, he was almost completely under the influence of Craven Edge. It took him stabbing Pike by accident to snap him out of it. My man was ready to 1v1 an elder dragon because the sword told him to. He only fights off its influence after it made him severely wound Pike and the distress and regret overpowered the sword's influence. Not a great example.
But, when he stabbed Pike it did snap him out of it. And that doesn't actually relate to what I said, because I said once he's told, which happens after that point.
How many time are you going to rewatch this? YES! I will never tire of this its not only epic but animated beuatifully
Loved this bit. The only thing I think would make it perfect is if Delilah's scream for Sylas started muted, because of Scanlan's spell, and then broke/exploded out of it because of her pure anguish in watching her husband die.
I love this show but I have to say a couple things that drove me nuts.
1. They nurfed Grog big time. Dude only hit the ground like 3 or 4 times in the entire stream and in the show he got ragdolled left and right. The only time he didn't get sent flying was when Anders took control of him.
2. They juiced Pike big time. She is powerful in the stream but in this show she 1v1ed Delilia.
It was to balance the fact she hadn’t been with the party in so long.
She's also being granted an insane amount of power from the Everlight.
they explained in the s1 rewatch that the reason Grog gets thrown around so much is that if he WAS allowed to stand face to face with any of the primary antagonists they would just go down right away. Case in point, Grog literally lands An hit vs Sylas and its enough to turn the whole fight around.
There's a fair bit of shifting of power within the group for tv.
Some classes are just balanced to be more effective in battle and have much less utility, and that doesn't make for a satisfying tv show.
And frankly, some of the players just weren't effective in combat early on, either because they didn't know the new system, weren't adapting well, or because of poor character choices - but they just weren't. That's ok in DnD where so much more roleplay than rollplay occurs, where characters can shine in the little moments, but in a TV adaptation where we don't have time for them, you have to let those characters shine in a way they didn't necessarily in the game.
Some of the coolest moments in game happen because the dice go on a hot streak and everything works out. It's hard to portray that in TV, because the threat of failure isn't there in the same way. Scanbo was awesome in real life, but if portrayed correctly on TV it would just make scanlan look like a marty stu - we don't see the dice rolls so we wouldn't know how lucky he was to succeed at those key moments or how close he came to failure - we'd just see him waltz into a heavily guarded home, make a mockery of a dozen guards and their goliath Lord, and burn the place down with everyone inside *without taking a point of damage*.
The fact that it was outrageous, impossible, and almost insultingly easy was *awesome* in the game, because it was clear that Scanlan *wasn't* a Marty Stu, that he could well die if things went badly, that he had no plan or anything, and just got incredibly lucky and made some very clever choices at the perfect moments. I don't think there's any way to portray that in TV for people who didn't watch it happen in the game.
I love this show. Just discovered it.
Then you should see the first episodes before Percival's Arc. They go to a dwarven city and find some stuff outta a horror show. Oh yeah and Tiberius is there
Special beam cannon!
1:27 Whoo! I'm a genius!
This is the funniest adult animation ever 🤣🤣🤣
“If we don’t know what we’re doing, the enemy won’t either”-US Armed Forces
Delilah may have loved his Sylas and would’ve done anything to save him. But that doesn’t make her a good person. She was cruel to other people and destroyed several other families slaughtering them and forcing them to become slaves in their kingdom. She would execute children just to make an example out of them. She’s kinda like Kingpin from Into the Spider-Verse, we sympathize with her, but it doesn’t justify her actions and we sympathize much more with her victims. At the end of the day she is irredeemable for what she did.
It would be nice for Pike to be able to activate some kind of Avatar state. Like Kylith and how she can channel the flames to become s flame avatar.
So sylas is still kinda in his own sanity, Except his not really sane and is an antagonist. While holding craven edge? If grog mastered craven edge to the point it boosted his strength and still control the bloodthirsty blade, Then we will see a barbaric grog who enjoys battle more than anyone else in the series.
I don't remember fighting Grog
It's a perk of animation but it is very fun to see lower level heroes work it to get *one* hit on the bad guy. Just deal him like eight points of damage. Bad guy has tons more and is confused why you put so much effort in just do cut my fing-earheahAAHH! and then that was just a distraction and they get weakness-blasted.
generic beuiser who got one shot in at the cost of nearly all of his hp: "nice eighteen int but it dont take ten of those to know you're an idiot for not killing me at the start of this and moving on"
One question: Did Sylas have no action or did he forget that he can polymorph into bat or mist to escape the grapple?
Mean if I was being bearhugged by a barbarian with the intent to kill and being lit on fire (fire that could actually permanently kill me) I'd probably panic a bit. Also I don't recall Sylas actually using either of those abilities in the series.