Interesting that they said wheelspin kills diffs in no time, then proceeded to wheelspin at 100 MPH for hours in a single go before they had a real problem. I think the biggest takeaway here is that oil is important. I really like the 'till absolute destruction format of these videos.
normally your not trying to kill your diff so that is why it happens in no time for normal people when you try to make it happen it takes forever man🤣🤣🤣
@@polski_mamut yes once it stopped it cooled and harder essentially fusing them together. But when it was glowing red the metal was hot and soft it would continue until it goes out. But once its stopped its done
“well you see, that is what destroys the internals, things overheat, increases friction, and it chews itself to bits. why don’t we try imitating that scenario!”
In Russia, you don't service the car until something ejects... Then you just replace the parts that are essential for going forward... Everything is so cheap, because people wreck their cars so often that junk yards are full of usable spare parts.
Really cool guys. There's so much to be learned from your vids. Some folks see it as all laughs and silliness, but I leave each video having learned something usually.
I feel like that clear case and the chill from the weather/snow has helped it extend its life compared to 32.2°C here in Central Wisconsin with 100% humidity I don't forsee it running as long as in this scenario. However this was a interesting demonstration.
First the spir gears and the shaft that they ride on heated up. This cause the shaft to expand and lock to the spir gears. Once the spir gears were locked to the shaft, they started spinning the shaft like a smooth version a router bit. The spinning shaft then started grinding away the steel from the diff case ( which is what caused all of that play ). You can see @11:28 that the tip of that spinning shaft gets so hot from friction that it glows bright orange.
Bought a '98 Toyota Hiace four years ago that seemed to have a minor oil leak from the diff. No drops on the ground, but could smell it after driving. Didn't care much about it until on a long summer holiday trip, after lots of rocking to get unstuck from a mud hole. Heard whining from the rear end when driving afterwards. Hit up the nearest Toyota workshop, they added 1.1 L of diff oil. (Total capacity is 1.8 L) Less whining on the trip home, but noticeable through tunnels. Had the diff checked at the local workshop after coming home; the pinion bearing was bad. A car-savvy friend of mine replaced the diff with a second-hand unit, and it's been fine since. However, after watching this video, I feel bad for torturing the old oil-starved diff when trying to get out of that mud hole. Gotta check the oil level soon :-)
Sometimes it's people trying to race... Get the RPM high and then drop it in gear. Metal hates hard fast hits. The more you do it, the bigger the play becomes that leads to harder hits.
Just don't do diff oil changes is enough, condensation brings water mixed with steel shrapnel's and honey like dried up old oil will burn any gearbox fast
Maniacs!😜 What "spider gears" don't like is shock loads. Wait until spring. Remove both shocks/dampers from the rear end. Then try to do burnouts on the dry pavement. You may even get a bonus, and break the U-joints on the driveshaft.
I had a diff where that pin came loose ( bolt holding it broke) and it moved back and forth hitting the pinion gear and that caused the bolt holding it to loosen! Pin was bent so I couldn't remove to fix/rebuild. So I welded it in place and tightened everything fresh fluids and that was 4 months ago. No issues yet! Bought a new one (entire axel assembly) still haven't had to put it in!!
Years back I had a little Mazda pickup I had mismatched tires on. The rear end was making a little noise, but then got louder and made a hell of a bang with a constant clunking. It had broken off the cross pin bolt, the cross pin had tried to leave it's position, but had hit the pinion so hard it broke one if the carrier caps. It was a mess.
0:20 - I've always considered this fact (about the free-to-spin wheel doubling in speed) a _kind of_ traction control, in and of itself. We all know that doubling the speed via gearing will give us twice the speed, but at half the torque. So in essence, when a wheel begins to lose traction and spin faster than the other, its torque is reduced by 50% - Now it's less likely to spin...
No, the torque is equal at both wheels. If one wheel loses contact, then no torque will be delivered to the other. That's why braking the freely spinning wheel (eg. traction control) allows the contact wheel to generate torque.
Even a open diff can spin both tires for a short bit at least. Those spider gears put so much pressure on the side gears it’s easier to turn the axle than spin the spider gears. Usually only banging gears or a quick shock load. This can also cause catastrophic failure
I'm glad the Ladas are as disposible there in beaitiful/freezing Russia as aquiring a soda from a soda despener! Bless garage54d for disclosing this to us laymen! Much love/ respect Your friend/fan from Texas,USA!! 💙 🇷🇺🇺🇸
9:57 Normally (when the right and left wheel spin at the same speed) those gears don't spin. They are just not designed to be used very much. Only when you go around a corner or so.
Parts detonation in an axle usually happens when both wheels are spinning and then one wheel stops suddenly and one keeps spinning and bang, done it a couple of times playing off-road either in the mud or snow ones in a Land-Rover once in a Willys CJ3.
Differentials don't work instantly, they take a second for the power to be distributed to the right places, that's why if you're stuck, you try pulsating the power to get out, as you essentially catch the differential off guard and both wheels spin
@@televisionandcheese also I read that with an open diff, when stuck, if you slightly press the brake while accelerating you can get some kind of locking effect
Most likely a lot of the weight was removed from it by lifting the other back wheel. These cars might be crap, but there's still a little torsional rigidity that lifts weight off one wheel when the other is lifted off the ground.
From my experience with GM is bending the thrush washers around the spider gears and loading the diff which locks the spiders and hello posi! But eventually the cross pin holding the spider gears break and will blow everything apart sending debris though the cover and lose a axle in process. Which also fucks up the ring n pinion as well.
i boke mine it was a dana 70 from a 1993 dodge w250 i had no oil in there for god knows how long since then i have fixed it with a brand new diff and axel, got very lucky to find one the very next day (victoria bc canada ) huge fan !
Hi, with those thermometers you need to put them really close to have proper readout, their measuring cone is very wide, that far from diff you measured average of diff and lot of environment temps.
Seeing that makes me glad that I chose to leave the car I got until I actually looked it over properly. Welded the "blue" slipping gears to each other with electricity. Filled it back up using old engine oil mixed with 3 tubes of grease. Ford Independent Rear Suspension 8.8 differential, took 185hp for 360'000km... only one oil change. Works just fine, gets around better then some trucks do. I have tire chains for it, they are amazing. Works so good that thinking of getting a job to buy a new one off a dealership, forget that... to much work.
Guys, the job you do with translating is great - it's just that sometimes I think a translator with proper russian accent would make it even greater xD
We discussed the idea with the guys, they weren't very fond of it. And I see where they're coming from: my baseline accent is sort of average American, and my attempts to simulate a Russian accent very well might've come off as super cheesy and fake. I've heard a bunch of genuine Russian accents in my years living in Russia, they are super cool, they're not what Hollywood films make them out to be, and they're very tough to emulate.
Doing a long 1 wheel burnout will do the same thing. It puts an incredible amount of stress on the spider gears and their shafts. Some diffs can take it for more than others, but it's harsh. Seen a few blow up like that, luckily not my cars!
Question for Garage 54... regarding the strongest rear differentials available over in your area. In America, reference to Ford 9" or Dana 60/Dana 70 are pretty strong. What is the equivalent or better in your country's vehicles?
It's probably too much to ask, but a little text box that converts metric units into the budweisers per bald eagle system showing up when any measurements are shown would be a great help for us across the waters. I have no idea how warm or cold centigrade measurements are.
And now you know when you're doing a 1 wheel peel that the tire is spinning about 2x what the speedometer is reading 😬 Reminded me of that vid on here with a red 3rd gen camaro and when the tire blew it took out the whole quarter and back glass.
I was tight because the diff oil lubric’s the half shaft bearings if it not level the half shaft bearings will run dry and tighten up. Citroen have diff issues when oil level gets low in gearbox diff throws oil up in to gearbox staving itself of oil and it destroys itself on motorway, normally the roll pin lets go that holds diff together allowing it to grenade diff and gearbox normally destroying the clutch too.
When offroading, one of the wheels can lift up, resulting in twice the speed in the oposite one. When you give it gas to move forward, the wheel speeds up and when it hits the rock/hard surfice and stops immediately this is when damage happens. Really wanted to see how one of the wheels spins up like you did with lifting it, then start moving forward in first gear to about 10-20 km and drop the car to the ground on a hard surface, not snow. That would be really interesting to see.
Ya, most of that damage happens when someone is stubbornly pinning the gas and they are bouncing up and down on a rock, but not going anywhere. Often they are at full lock for good measure too. Poor cv never had a chance.
5:43 “Multiply 160 x 2 and you’ve got the wheels spinning at the equivalent of..”
B L I N 😂
Ikr 😂😂
Blyatski
XDDDDD The way he says blin tho XDDDD
What an idiot ...fuck me glad he's russian I don't have to be embarrassed
@@muskokaroads2371 embarrassed for what?
This guys video are all answers to questions we have had but didn't have money or resources to find answers to
exactely!
Exactly, and using the "transparent plastic" is amazing. HE is the best
we don't have money to destroy $300 cars?
@@kevinragsdale6256 but do you have the time and resources to do it each week
@@kevinragsdale6256 in my area a car that costs 300 dollars has already been destroyed.
music choice at the "burnout" was fricken gold >D
"It's making all these terrible noises" cue techno music.
Go to war - No sons of mine..... Just in case anyone wondering.
5pp+++
@@TheAzego thanks dude, now I can experience my burnout in tge same style!
I wasn't expecting it when it caught me by surprise and I had a good LOL. These POS Lada cars are funny to begin with.
"The axis, these are properly thrashed." Sums up WW2.
Underated comment
ahahahaha
🤣
Ahahahahahah
Hahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha
I wish Garage 54 crew tested what would break first if fuel was the only liquid in a car
😂
🔥💥
Engine for sure
@@georgobergfell brakes is my guess
I'd like to see gasoline as coolant.
Interesting that they said wheelspin kills diffs in no time, then proceeded to wheelspin at 100 MPH for hours in a single go before they had a real problem. I think the biggest takeaway here is that oil is important. I really like the 'till absolute destruction format of these videos.
They just love to prove themselves (and other people) wrong... Some cars have by definition better quality parts that last longer even if tortured.
How much do charge me
That's true, but it did cause a significant amount of damage... That diff was trashed even with the oil, it was so worn out.
normally your not trying to kill your diff so that is why it happens in no time for normal people when you try to make it happen it takes forever man🤣🤣🤣
wow, that glow of the diff!! should have kept on going until it goes whammy!!
It blocked, so I don't think there was a chance to have diff pieces all around
@@polski_mamut yes once it stopped it cooled and harder essentially fusing them together. But when it was glowing red the metal was hot and soft it would continue until it goes out. But once its stopped its done
BMI Russian doing the real work here
People like them are like the heroes irl without cape
06:30 Love the music transition! 🤘
Name dong?
Song
That's the most Russian way to weld a diff I've ever seen.
if it works right?
“well you see, that is what destroys the internals, things overheat, increases friction, and it chews itself to bits. why don’t we try imitating that scenario!”
meh he took it the fast way even with oil it still would have died it would have taken a couple more hours atleast though
Yet again another interesting thing to watch
But it's more interesting to see your profile picture 😂
@@Jackson-mm8ep 😂😂😂😂
Gotta say, garage54 never lets you down, axel's might but not the boys👍🏴
Torsion bars on 80s/90s Peugeots come to mind
@@iainmacrae6982 instant lowered suspension weither you wanted it or not lol
Put it this way. Now you have a welded diff 😂
yeah he's got a locking diff now that's so awesome🤣
"and the other spins at twice the speed"
Now I'm just imagining a Corvette with open diff spinning one wheel at twice it's top speed of ~190mph.
KABOOM!!
Given how quickly these cars disintegrate on the Russian dash cam videos, I’m genuinely surprised at the strength of that differential.
In Russia, you don't service the car until something ejects... Then you just replace the parts that are essential for going forward... Everything is so cheap, because people wreck their cars so often that junk yards are full of usable spare parts.
@@Monni95 We would have the same thing here if it weren't for the accursed cash for clunkers program.
Lada, built around the rear end.
I love how your thumbnail is actually always a part of the video👍
Respect that man
Almost, the guys sometimes use something unrelated (though whatever is in the video is always more epic).
I got a Russian mcdonald's breakfast ad even though this is the english channel. I'll never get the jingle out of my head😂
Nice work guys ty for your patience to see it Thru and make it break.... I enjoy these videos
Brilliant vid! I'd recommend this as an educational study to any first car owners on diff maintenance if applicable.
Really cool guys. There's so much to be learned from your vids. Some folks see it as all laughs and silliness, but I leave each video having learned something usually.
what will he come up with next sulfuric acid in the diff?🤣😂🤣
I feel like that clear case and the chill from the weather/snow has helped it extend its life compared to 32.2°C here in Central Wisconsin with 100% humidity I don't forsee it running as long as in this scenario. However this was a interesting demonstration.
"Meanwhile, at Lada's super secret 'Destructive Test Lab'....."
First the spir gears and the shaft that they ride on heated up. This cause the shaft to expand and lock to the spir gears.
Once the spir gears were locked to the shaft, they started spinning the shaft like a smooth version a router bit.
The spinning shaft then started grinding away the steel from the diff case ( which is what caused all of that play ).
You can see @11:28 that the tip of that spinning shaft gets so hot from friction that it glows bright orange.
Cool vid as usuall! Try this in the summer heat, i bet you get different results(better results)
Just love these guy. Not afraid of doing dangerous stunts no matter they are
They're living the beater car lifestyle
I love your guys videos! Keep going!
Bought a '98 Toyota Hiace four years ago that seemed to have a minor oil leak from the diff. No drops on the ground, but could smell it after driving. Didn't care much about it until on a long summer holiday trip, after lots of rocking to get unstuck from a mud hole. Heard whining from the rear end when driving afterwards. Hit up the nearest Toyota workshop, they added 1.1 L of diff oil. (Total capacity is 1.8 L) Less whining on the trip home, but noticeable through tunnels. Had the diff checked at the local workshop after coming home; the pinion bearing was bad. A car-savvy friend of mine replaced the diff with a second-hand unit, and it's been fine since.
However, after watching this video, I feel bad for torturing the old oil-starved diff when trying to get out of that mud hole. Gotta check the oil level soon :-)
Awesome experiment! Great job on doing what a lot of people done unexpectedly!
be cool to see if sulfuric acid helps break it faster🤣🤣🤣
You deserve more subscribers and views !
Another great video ! 👍🏻
I’ve been watching y’all Channel for about 2 years now it’s crazy how reliable those ladas are
5:45
Wheel spinning at the equivalent of...
*Blin*
Sometimes it's people trying to race... Get the RPM high and then drop it in gear. Metal hates hard fast hits. The more you do it, the bigger the play becomes that leads to harder hits.
Just don't do diff oil changes is enough, condensation brings water mixed with steel shrapnel's and honey like dried up old oil will burn any gearbox fast
Kitécat TestEcke the magnet picks up the metal
Russian Craftsmanship: The Self Welding limited Slip Differential.
Maniacs!😜
What "spider gears" don't like is shock loads.
Wait until spring. Remove both shocks/dampers from the rear end.
Then try to do burnouts on the dry pavement.
You may even get a bonus, and break the U-joints on the driveshaft.
this youtube channel is great solving all my suspicions. Thank you So much.
I had a diff where that pin came loose ( bolt holding it broke) and it moved back and forth hitting the pinion gear and that caused the bolt holding it to loosen! Pin was bent so I couldn't remove to fix/rebuild. So I welded it in place and tightened everything fresh fluids and that was 4 months ago. No issues yet! Bought a new one (entire axel assembly) still haven't had to put it in!!
I've seen two diffs breaking when grip is equal, grip is great and clutch is dumped. Breaks the pinion gears into two pieces.
Love you guys burning engine to gearbox and now difs
I love this sedan has a solid rear axle and leaf springs
Years back I had a little Mazda pickup I had mismatched tires on. The rear end was making a little noise, but then got louder and made a hell of a bang with a constant clunking. It had broken off the cross pin bolt, the cross pin had tried to leave it's position, but had hit the pinion so hard it broke one if the carrier caps. It was a mess.
Great golden choice of music for the burnout 😂
0:20 - I've always considered this fact (about the free-to-spin wheel doubling in speed) a _kind of_ traction control, in and of itself.
We all know that doubling the speed via gearing will give us twice the speed, but at half the torque.
So in essence, when a wheel begins to lose traction and spin faster than the other, its torque is reduced by 50% - Now it's less likely to spin...
No, the torque is equal at both wheels. If one wheel loses contact, then no torque will be delivered to the other.
That's why braking the freely spinning wheel (eg. traction control) allows the contact wheel to generate torque.
Even a open diff can spin both tires for a short bit at least. Those spider gears put so much pressure on the side gears it’s easier to turn the axle than spin the spider gears. Usually only banging gears or a quick shock load. This can also cause catastrophic failure
Cool video, shout out to the translator.
Would definitely watch some more
You guys are ‘kinda’ the best (low key)
3:27 right wheel stops spinning in reverse and he knees behind the car. Safety first😂 The Russian style
Gotta thank Russians for all those LiveLeak videos tbh
I'm glad the Ladas are as disposible there in beaitiful/freezing Russia as aquiring a soda from a soda despener! Bless garage54d for disclosing this to us laymen! Much love/ respect
Your friend/fan from Texas,USA!! 💙
🇷🇺🇺🇸
It's almost like they've watched the Banks Diff videos
Damn you see that thing glowing at 11:24 🔥
That was extremely awesome to see
Don't you love this guy, totally out there.
9:57 Normally (when the right and left wheel spin at the same speed) those gears don't spin. They are just not designed to be used very much. Only when you go around a corner or so.
it ain't breaking cause it's to damned reliable I love it🤣
Parts detonation in an axle usually happens when both wheels are spinning and then one wheel stops suddenly and one keeps spinning and bang, done it a couple of times playing off-road either in the mud or snow ones in a Land-Rover once in a Willys CJ3.
That's why Dodge demons diffs go boom. People that don't know how to do proper burnouts 😂🤑
that, being an open diff, the most surprising part was seeing the stuck wheel actually spin. Didn't think that was possible on an open differential.
that's only a brief moment when changing gear I think, torque is quickly removed from the transmission and then quickly reapplied
Differentials don't work instantly, they take a second for the power to be distributed to the right places, that's why if you're stuck, you try pulsating the power to get out, as you essentially catch the differential off guard and both wheels spin
@@televisionandcheese also I read that with an open diff, when stuck, if you slightly press the brake while accelerating you can get some kind of locking effect
@@LinkinPark4Ever1996 yeah just out of spinning mass, not surprising as it is retarded due to is mass on the free wheeling side
Most likely a lot of the weight was removed from it by lifting the other back wheel. These cars might be crap, but there's still a little torsional rigidity that lifts weight off one wheel when the other is lifted off the ground.
From my experience with GM is bending the thrush washers around the spider gears and loading the diff which locks the spiders and hello posi! But eventually the cross pin holding the spider gears break and will blow everything apart sending debris though the cover and lose a axle in process. Which also fucks up the ring n pinion as well.
Omg you guys rock, hahaha that was excellent.
i boke mine it was a dana 70 from a 1993 dodge w250 i had no oil in there for god knows how long since then i have fixed it with a brand new diff and axel, got very lucky to find one the very next day (victoria bc canada ) huge fan !
I love this channel!
Love keeeeeep doing video like that
Hi, with those thermometers you need to put them really close to have proper readout, their measuring cone is very wide, that far from diff you measured average of diff and lot of environment temps.
This channel should be so much bigger
Amazing, watching the oil get blacker and blacker
Seeing that makes me glad that I chose to leave the car I got until I actually looked it over properly.
Welded the "blue" slipping gears to each other with electricity.
Filled it back up using old engine oil mixed with 3 tubes of grease.
Ford Independent Rear Suspension 8.8 differential, took 185hp for 360'000km... only one oil change.
Works just fine, gets around better then some trucks do.
I have tire chains for it, they are amazing.
Works so good that thinking of getting a job to buy a new one off a dealership, forget that... to much work.
Guys, the job you do with translating is great - it's just that sometimes I think a translator with proper russian accent would make it even greater xD
We discussed the idea with the guys, they weren't very fond of it. And I see where they're coming from: my baseline accent is sort of average American, and my attempts to simulate a Russian accent very well might've come off as super cheesy and fake. I've heard a bunch of genuine Russian accents in my years living in Russia, they are super cool, they're not what Hollywood films make them out to be, and they're very tough to emulate.
Interesting how it failed!!!! This is great information!!!! Thank You!!!!
"Aaaaaand we've got welded diff..." 🤣🤣
That’s a Lada rear end!!!
... I’ll see my self out
-It's actually a Volga (GAZ)-
@@televisionandcheese which one?
@@onionman500blin8 it's a GAZ 31029 Volga
Doing a long 1 wheel burnout will do the same thing. It puts an incredible amount of stress on the spider gears and their shafts. Some diffs can take it for more than others, but it's harsh. Seen a few blow up like that, luckily not my cars!
engines fine but the dif is done🤣🤣🤣
8:31 : "блин!"
Great video guys! I've blown up two ford 9" diffs. Split the casing in half on one of them. I definitely didnt mean to brake them but I did lol.
YOU MUST BE SPECIAL ED!!!!!!
Damn skippy!
Was in an 84 bronco 351 v8 with a bit of work done to the engine. Lol
LOL, I PRAISE YOU for TAKING THAT WELL AND REALIZING JUST BEING MESSED WITH.... MOST PEOPLE JUST GET BUTT HURT AND THAT MAKES ME LAUGH EVEN HARDER
This man is a mad genius
13:40 Supraaaa 😂😂
I like this channel no nasty cheap SFX or gimmicks.
The fact that it held up so long is amazing!
They didn't flush all the oil away... There was still thin film of oil even after most of the oil did burn away due to excess heat.
Question for Garage 54... regarding the strongest rear differentials available over in your area. In America, reference to Ford 9" or Dana 60/Dana 70 are pretty strong. What is the equivalent or better in your country's vehicles?
BRILLIANT
To always have a dozen or so old Ladas around to tear up, priceless.
It's probably too much to ask, but a little text box that converts metric units into the budweisers per bald eagle system showing up when any measurements are shown would be a great help for us across the waters. I have no idea how warm or cold centigrade measurements are.
Man i need to get me on of these Lada cars.. Pretty tough
A similar thing happened to the front diff on my '93 Grand Cherokee, after an oil seal burst.
Hello, any chance of making a rear drive rear steering Lada? love the vids, keep up the good work :-)
that was interesting awesome stuff big thumbs up
Seen diffs with the satellite shaft worn beyond 3/4 of it's diameter and ran fine, with a bit of knocks indeed 😂.
And now you know when you're doing a 1 wheel peel that the tire is spinning about 2x what the speedometer is reading 😬
Reminded me of that vid on here with a red 3rd gen camaro and when the tire blew it took out the whole quarter and back glass.
it's not braking cause it's to damned reliable I love it🤣🤣🤣
I was tight because the diff oil lubric’s the half shaft bearings if it not level the half shaft bearings will run dry and tighten up. Citroen have diff issues when oil level gets low in gearbox diff throws oil up in to gearbox staving itself of oil and it destroys itself on motorway, normally the roll pin lets go that holds diff together allowing it to grenade diff and gearbox normally destroying the clutch too.
First time I've seen glowing differential gears.
When offroading, one of the wheels can lift up, resulting in twice the speed in the oposite one. When you give it gas to move forward, the wheel speeds up and when it hits the rock/hard surfice and stops immediately this is when damage happens.
Really wanted to see how one of the wheels spins up like you did with lifting it, then start moving forward in first gear to about 10-20 km and drop the car to the ground on a hard surface, not snow.
That would be really interesting to see.
Ya, most of that damage happens when someone is stubbornly pinning the gas and they are bouncing up and down on a rock, but not going anywhere. Often they are at full lock for good measure too. Poor cv never had a chance.
MY KIND OF CHANNEL
Was hoping for a nice explosion but I kind of predicted the welded differential outcome lol
"We've got a Lada snow.." 🤣
Greta ‘s favorite channel!!
How DARE you!
You think she's got a crush on Vlad?
Greta's favorite channel is zip ties and bias plies lol
@@sheridanbaldwin8629 Whistlindiesel and Neutral Drop also.
Diy : diff weld with no welder
Banks power has entered the chat.
This channel is proving that Ladas are indestructible
Diferential friction welding. How about try this?
I died when the rock music came on at 6:31 😂😂
I’m impressed by the durability of that differential
they disintegrate in no time
he's like it's not going as fast as I'd like it to🤣🤣🤣
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