What It's Like Being Catatonic
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Catatonia is a rare syndrome characterized most commonly by immobility and mutism. I've experienced this so called "Catatonic Stupor" many times, but none will compare to the terror that was the first episode.
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My son is 14yrs old and in Dec. 2023 he was diagnosed with catatonia. My son case was brought on due to despression and sexual trauma. I pray for all those who are diagnosed with this.
check for autoantibodies in CSF and serum and do an MRI, EEG
Im SO thankful for this video. Im new to working in emergency psych and no one could seem to tell me what people in catatonia are experiencing internally aside from anxiety as a trigger. Thank you sincerely for sharing with us. Now I understand how to support theraputically so much better.
Yes this is on reason why I make these videos!!!! Honestly if you have a catatonic person in front of you, talk to them and update them on things that are happening and what their treatment is and what you all are going to do to help. Even if they don’t react in any way they most likely can hear you and understand what you’re saying. This would have been so helpful to me when I was stuck the first time. Instead, as you know, I was ignored when I was terrified and had no idea what was happening. Sometimes people who go catatonic for the first time think they are dying, and I think that’s really important to know as well. Thank you for seeking out this type of content and using it to help your work ^_^
love this and love ur response kit^!! an additional tip id say is not to overwhelm the patient with questions, cause for instance when ive gone catatonic in clinical settings they'll ask "are u safe? if ur safe give a response of some kind? are u ok?" idek but like i canNot answer so pls stop asking, and even more importantly, pls don't think i'm worse simply bc i'm not answering 😭 i've been through this before, i know how to deal with it; i just need to wait it out!
or if you do have urgent questions but they are simply unresponsive, you could perhaps say "answer whenever you can, its ok if you can't right now." and asking the questions without demanding immediate answers can give them time to think about their responses, bc wellll, if ur catatonic all u can do is think.
I saw a man in a catatonic state this morning on my way to work. It broke my soul, and i have still not been able to stop thinking about him. He looked like a walking corpse. I wanted to help him, to look into his eyes, gently touch his arm and tell him that everything is going to be alright. So much more needs to be done for mental health
I was in a mental hospital with a woman with catatonic schizophrenia and she seemed trapped in her own body. She would hold postures with a completely flat affect for hours, and grimace and laugh in inappropriate situations (earning the ire of some of her fellow patients). When asked questions she would move her mouth but never speak. I've luckily never experienced it myself but it looked like a living hell.
I've read that the GABAergic (gamma-aminobutyric acid) neurotransmitters become disrupted.
@@marybeth3660 I believe it as Ativan helps a lot
@@marybeth3660 Are we supposed to use this information, somehow? lol
It's happened to me before. It's absolutely fucking horrible. I wanted to talk so badly but couldn't properly communicate. Can't control my movements. It's like experiencing hell on earth!
I suffer from schizoaffective disorder depressive type and catatonia. I talk slowly and move slowly and walk differently than other people. My wife came home one day and i was stuck in the same position i had apparently been in for quite some time. I was unresponsive to her talking to me. I have auditory and visual hallucinations and delusions. I’m glad I’m not alone
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You are not alone. Sending hugs and prayers your way.
You aren't. I've had catatonic episodes too. It's absolutely THE WORST. Especially for someone as extremely extroverted as I am.
I experience this too!! This is the first time I've heard someone describe catatonia from their own perspective and it's exactly like how I experience it. I'm not schizoaffective but have bipolar disorder, OCD, GAD, PTSD, and ADHD. It mostly happens if I'm really depressed or anxious but occasionally on its own. I'm used to it at this point but it's still extremely frustrating. Thanks for sharing!
How do you function working a job with this feature?
@@nryanhollister8758 I was going to ask if driving a car is still allowed, if you might go catatonic at any moment. Scary.
Seeing someone talk about that condition really feels nice. Catatonia is very traumatic, well in my case at least. Your video really made me feel less alone, thank you for sharing
How has your journey been? has things got better?
Your first experience with catatonia sounds absolutely terrifying, especially since you had no idea what was going on AND you got left alone with no one checking on you in the ER. Thank you for giving us such a clear and detailed description of what it felt like. I'm glad that you came out of it relatively quickly - I can only imagine what a relief that must have been. It's interesting that there are enough parallels between a conversion reaction and catatonia that the doctor at the ER thought you were dealing with a conversion reaction at first. It's good that you got advice about dealing with future episodes, and that the whole thing helped you know what to expect when it happened again. It's also interesting that you've noticed a pattern of panic attacks ending in a catatonic episode. I really appreciate your insight into this, and I hope it helps other folks who also experience catatonia!
Honestly one of the things that freaked me out the most was how quickly it came on and how quickly it ended. The people in the ER leaving me there... I used to want to be a doctor and I would never do that to a patient. Ah healthcare. Like I'm not a vegetable entirely, just physically ya know? At least it wasn't actually a stroke -_-
Anyways, thanks for the comment GC! I hope this helps people too :)
This video was so helpful. My husband has Schitzoaffective disorder and he had his first catatonic episode last night. Absolutely terrifying as we didn't have a clue what was going on. We ended up down the hospital and like you, he was just wheeled into a waiting room and left there for 4 hours. Fortunately I was able to stay with him and keep him company through the ordeal. We left before being seen once he was able to move again as he just wanted to get home. We are seeking help through other means now.
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You wrap my friend, always take your time,i have schizophrenia listening to people like you gives me hope to live another day knowing that am not alone in this!
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Thank you. You give me hope too
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Both the panic attacks and the catatonia seem horrifying. I am glad you are able to cope as well as you do. 🙏❤️
Thank you so much! I do my best and for now it's enough!
I’m surprised they didn’t even check you for absent seizures cause the symptoms sound like they mimic a absent seizure even though it wasn’t one and it was Catalonia. Catalonia sounds frightening as hell. I hope don’t ever experience it but I knew someone that did. She was on the psych unit with me and she sat in the same spot for hours and I mean hours. 11 hours could go by and she was still frozen in that same spot and staring. Compelled checked out. Kinda freaked me out a little
Absence seizures only last a few seconds generally, anything more than a few minutes would be status epilepticus
Catatonia is a terrifying thing for the person involved but also for those around them. I understand why you would be a little freaked out, thats how people in my life felt when I was catatonic in their presence. Crazy stuff.
I had written a big comment about my experience and differences etc.
It's amazing how different my experience was to yours... I was in a full Catatonic stupor essentially non-stop for weeks until emergency ECT. I was able to talk but it was essentially just Echolalia (parroting people) I would hold positions, often my right hand raised pretty much all day. The majority of the Drs at the Psyche ward I was in had only seen half a dozen to a dozen Catatonic patients combined, however I was very lucky that I became Catatonic when I was being admitted for Major Depressive Disorder and the nurse admitting me had more experience with it.
Your description of your experience is almost the polar opposite of mine and I'm wondering if that's due to our different diagnosis. I essentially felt like a black hole of nothingness...peering out from that... everything was a murmur or blur except whatever the centre of my eyesight was focused on but there was just and extreme apathy and anhedonia, nothing mattered to me at all....somehow though this was a terrible feeling in itself but it was just utter nothingness,. I'd say I was aware like you were but that my awareness wasn't attached to any high functions like worrying about what was happening to me or even thinking ahead, everything was just in the moment. I have vague memories of focusing on my hand as I'd tap it forward on a table repeatedly/aimlessly but no idea why I was doing it, it just happened. There are some similar memories, being sat in a wheelchair facing the wall for hours, having pain response checked, but often these just made me..give up. The most alarming memories were being taken out of the wheel chair and my entire body still being rigid in the shape of someone sitting (legs and arms bent), being laid out on my bed and having to have my arms and legs straightened.... Usually they would find me looking to me right at the blank wall with my right arm up almost pointing
To sum it up for me it was like...a house where the power had been cut off and i was stuck looking out one room. It sounds like for you the lights were turned off but you were very much at home and screaming to get them back on
The human mind is an amazing and terrifying thing
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This comment is so helpful because now I know a little bit more of what it is like for someone else, and how no two people experience things like this the exact same. The comment about the lights being out and screaming… yeah that’s the best way to put it for me. Also Interesting how you had waxy flexibility, and that just sounds like a whole level of h*ll because I HATE being touched when I’m catatonic. Hate it, so having someone move me sounds awful. I hate that you had to go through all of that, but it’s interesting how different our experiences of the same condition are. Thank you for this! And yes, the human mind is terrifying.
Wow. Just wow. I completed ECT for MDD with catatonia and psycho-retardation in 2017. Thank you so much for your articulate, in-depth description. I wasn't stuck in place and needing assistance to move myself like you, but EVERYTHING you describe about being in a black hole of nothing is TOTALLY how it was for me. I've never been able to really describe it accurately, other than to say I felt fuzzy headed and not in the moment, kind of detached yet present. I'm so grateful to have come across your comments as they will help me be able to be more accurate in describing my experience to others.❤❤❤
(Sorry if my English is not very good)
Thank you so much for this comment. I have bipolar disorder and I experienced a very similar catatonia.
I felt this infinite nothingness, sometimes I was convinced that I was dead and decomposing (very traumatic experience!)
I don't think I had such strong cataplexy, although I was always pointing somewhere for no reason. I was somehow conscious, but I didn't cared enough. My husband says that I had moments where I did a lot of repetitive movements without any meaning, and other days where he would give me food, help me with toilet, move my body... Etc. I don't remember any of this details (which freaks me out even more, I have the feeling that everybody remember everything but not me?).
This episode lasted 4 to 6 months (someday I was feeling better and could do things). It was terrible. Lately I had another episode that lasted me 10 hours. Now I'm afraid about having strong emotions and experience something like this again.
Thank you for this comparison this is really helpful.
Catatonia is so freaky. Thank you for the video❤️ my little brother got diagnosed for catatonia being the youngest person in the world with such severe catatonia. We live in Canada and because it’s so rare it took so long for him to get diagnosed and there isn’t a lot of information, nor enough treatments for it here.
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@@ladana6943 He is 6 now but was diagnosed when he was 4 :(
This happened to my mother last year and as a result, spent five months in the hospital. She endured a double trauma of losing my dad and my being diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer in a matter of months. She had no memory of where she was or who anybody was and had no strength in her legs. She hallucinated and acted similarly like someone with dementia/alzheimers. One evening she just came out of it and could remember things like she normally did. She also had a "wild" look about her eyes. It was very upsetting to see my mom like this. 😢
That sounds super scary but I’m glad she got to the other side. It’s crazy what brains can do, and we still don’t know what catatonia is. Thank you for sharing this!
Sounds like what happened to my Mum after a lot of family trauma and trauma herself. Mum’s eyes were vacant and wild. Unfortunately Mum has been diagnosed with dementia though I do wonder if they are mistaken and actually Mum is still in a state of trauma but no longer in a catatonic state of trauma as some of her symptoms don’t entirely fit with dementia yet other symptoms very much do. It is devastating and heartbreaking. Hope your Mum is now ok?
@deb7412 she's long out of her catatonic shock now, thanks God. She has dementia and is in an assisted living facility. It's been a challenge with her, but she's still hanging in there. Some days she's great and other days she forgets you called her and she has no idea where she is. It's hard. My patience is not the best especially after recovery from cancer. I'm trying. Wishing your mother all the best.
I also have schizoaffective disorder, a few years ago, and I'm not entirely sure if this was catatonia, but I was visiting my sister one day, my brother in law and I were having a conversation, when I felt like lying down, as I got comfortable, I feel my eyes stop blinking, I couldn't feel my heartbeat, and I couldn't move, and just as you described, I could hear him calling my name but I couldn't speak, I was frozen, I honestly don't know how much time went by, eventually I did regain my movement and I was able to speak again, it scared me though, since than I've had other episodes, I've just never really thought anything of them, despite my illnesses, I wasn't even aware they could cause something like that to happen, plus I have different symptoms when it comes to my motor abilities, due to the medication I've been taking, this video was eye opening for sure, thank you for sharing this with us, I hope all is well on your end. 🤙
All is very well (for now) on my end. I think this goes to show there is so much about the brain that we don't know, especially when it comes to psychotic disorders and catatonia in them. I remember researching a little for this and other videos and finding a staggeringly low amount of information about it. If I hadn't talked to my doctor I wouldn't have known what my own situation was.
Your situation also sounds terrifying :(
I hope one day you find answers, and peace. Thanks for sharing!
I've just watched four of your vids straight - captivating. I hope you're still managing your symptoms and making your life work for you. Stay strong Kit.
This just made my day, thank you!!! Life is good ^_^
I'm doing that same thing right now.... Some of this videos really jive with me, others, like this one, are something I hope I never have to experience, but if I do, I'll have a better idea what is happening to me.
Wow! Just fcuking wow! People who have these experiences and are able to live their best lives are fcuking superheroes! Thank you so much for sharing what you deal with, your explanations are very eye opening and go such a long way in educating the rest of us.
That sounds really difficult.
I myself have periods where I can't talk or move because i'm so distressed.
For me its fear that stops me moving, im disassociated and have no concept of reality.
Im lucky because my partner will recognise my symptoms and talk me into taking an extra antipsychotic. The meds usually bring me round quite quickly, but he says it is really difficult to get me to take the meds when i'm in that state and he struggles for a long time sometimes, before I will take it.
I worry what would happen to me if something happened to my partner, because I fear I would be stuck like that, but it seems from your video that eventually you are able to move again, which gives me hope.
The ER seems like they knew you would come out of it, but did not relay that information to you or your friend, which must of been really scary.
All my trips to ER have ended with me being ignored for hours and hours, I think that's just the nature of emergency rooms and mental health.
It can take 24 hours stuck in emergency in the UK before you are seen by the mental health team. That's a long time to be in severe distress without any communication from the staff.
I just think the staff really don't think you are worth communicating with, because you are incoherent but that's not true, there is always some part of us that can hear, and reassurance would help a lot!
I do hope things change in emergency medicine, but i'm not holding out much hope.
Emergency medicine is abysmal sometimes. I'm actually an Emergency Medical Technician (not practicing but I have the certification) in the states and it's really opened my eyes to how bad mental health treatment is. (I'm trying to help change that).
As for the ER, I think you're right about them just waiting. Just kinda downtrodden that they didn't... Tell me that's what they thought would happen.
Oh well!
Thanks so much, and stay strong!
Big thanks for sharing! 😊 As much as the internet exposes us to a wealth of knowledge and experiences, for such a dramatic condition there's very little content out there on catatonia. It has such a positive effect to see someone voicing a shared and difficult experience, 10/10 like and subscribe.
My first experience was while manic and had me bouncing between excitement and stupor, I got home from the hospital thinking I'd had a great time (I really didn't)! It seems to have become a regular thing since then, something with trigger some minor symptom which will come and go for a while, slowly getting worse. Next thing you know you're stuck in bed with an outstretched leg in the air, in agony because you just can't put it down on the bed.
First off, thanks so much! I'm glad you got value from this!!! And also I've been lucky to have been frozen in positions that haven't ever become uncomfortable. Stuck with your leg in the air sounds awful, as does going between stupor and excitement.
But it's nice to hear another perspective on this condition because when I posted this video I felt pretty alone.
Nice to know I'm not! Thanks again!
Girl, thank you so much for sharing this. I have experienced the same and have a history of trauma. You described it exactly how I have experienced it. Like, to a tee. I feel like it is the same as my computer or phone getting overloaded by inputs and the pinwheel of doom shows up and the solution is a system restart. This is a terrifying experience to have when not knowing wtf is going on! Thank you, again.
No problem! I appreciate this comment because it tells me I’m not alone in this. Thank you so so much! Sorry you have to go through it too, and yes, definitely scary before I got knowledge. May your episodes be few!
I remember my panic attacks- they hurt so bad because i couldn't get a grip and stop the terror and i sequestered myself in the camp bathroom where i paced and tried to calm down... the heavens seemed like a giant void that i was going to fall into and that all of life was utterly meaningless. I only calmed after i went back to the bunkhouse, got my bible and through some miracle opened to ecclesiasties where solomon says "meaningless, meaningless, everything is meaningless." It helped a lot... but the young and inexperienced camp counselor thought i was just being wierd and selfish and she said a prayer for me that equated to that...
Seeing, or knowing someone who has committed suicide has to trigger PTSD which is a symptom of catatonia & can cause the witness to shut down in parts to cope. The electric synapses between the brain neurons becomes almost muted & it can take several seconds to respond through conversation rather than normal micro seconds. The feeling is, being comfortably numb.
The thought of you sitting in the ER being ignored while you're in a catatonic state brings tears to my eyes. I would have sat with you and scratched your back and talked to you. Nurses are wildly disconnected from people and I'm so sorry you went through that.
Years ago I subjected myself into a situation where i had a drug induced Catatonic reaction. It explained more about my likely deep psychosis than i couldve never imagined. It was and still is a personal horrific experience.
Good vid...I've never experienced catatonia but I have had multiple panic attacks and they are proper horrible
They're straight from hell. Sorry you gotta go through them too.
Thank you so much for sharing this. It made me realize I might also be experiencing this. If my ptsd is triggered, or after I have a big panic attack, I find myself in a very similar state.
I have some sort of psychosis, my doctor is not sure if it's schizophrenia/schizoaffective or drug induced. But catatonia sounds terrifying and I hope it's something I never experience. Very sorry you had to go through that.
thank you so much for sharing!! i am an aspiring psychiatrist and patients are our greatest teachers
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing ❣️
Very informative. Thanks for sharing!
Detaching from everything, last step to giving up!!
Muchisimas gracias por contar tu historia!!! Se ha entendido perfectamente
My family member went thru this but it lasted for months and ativan is the only way it could be stopped. Theirs was caused by the smallest amt of a substanse for each of the 3 episodes. There really needs to be a better way to help patients bc its so traumatic for them. None of the dr have experience with it
It’s still one of the scariest things that’s ever happened to me. My psychotic break topped it, but that first time was like whoa what the heck. And no one could prepare me for it either. All I would have liked was someone to tell me what was happening, or that they were trying to figure it out. But nah. Wasn’t that easy.
Thanks for the commment!
@@SchizoKitzo It's so rare, 20,000 in all of the US. There isn't enough research and experience. They think it's caused by a lack of dopamine levels and gaba in the brain. Antipsychotic drugs can cause it as well. The Drs didn't even know she could still hear and was conscious during the whole episode until she recovered and remember when they walked out and left her in a room alone bc she couldn't move. It's got to feel so terrifying and caused so much more trauma to people already dealing with trauma.
I'm so sorry you went through that as well. As hard as it is to see a loved one go through it, I know it's so much worse for the one it's happening to. Esp when all you want to do is help yourself and you can't.
thank you for sharing your story
Basically ANY emotion (trams fear etc) is going to come out physically. Wanted it not. Being in love makes us glow in happiness and gives great health. Fear, hatred, resentment, can turn into cancer. So whatever you’re ‘feeling’ try to let it go yourself before your body takes over❤️
Love this, thank you for sharing
Thank you for making this video, l came here to figure out if l have catatonia, l couldn't speak or move my body but l think l could open my mouth so probably not. The search for wtf is wrong with me continues
I’ve experienced a pretty scary time once of sleep paralysis. It will be something I never forget. You wake up, your mind is on, and your body is completely paralyzed. It was so f’n scary. I couldn’t move anything at all. This sounds very similar to this.
My first episode I had friends sitting next to me talking to each other and not noticing for like an hour 🙃 had no idea what was going on and no one even noticed. Only just now finding that this might be the name for it 7+ years later. I understand what you mean about the calm though, it's such a trippy experience to be that freaked out while your body is just completely chill
It’s kinda like having an out of body experience while still being very much trapped in your body for me. And it’s still so weird that everything kinda goes on autopilot in that state.
Wow, that sounds so scary. Not at all what I expected. Cannot imagine how you felt and how you came out the other side.
It was absolutely terrifying, but every time it has happened since has not been nearly as bad.
This is sooo valuable and interesting thank you so much for sharing
This is super interesting. I never heard of this before, but it makes sense considering the rarity of it.
It might sound odd, but it's a video game (FF7) that got me interested in this topic as I suspect they wrote the protagonist having gone through it. It's not officially mentioned in the game, although some fan wikipedias did so it might not be true but it does sound like the writers got inspiration from it, which got me digging as I never heard of it before.
It also sounds terrifying. Thanks for educating me on this topic.
Final fantasy has Catatonia????? Dude now I gotta look at Cloud a little closer. I’m intrigued
@@SchizoKitzo I'm not educated on the topic, so I cannot tell you for sure. But the FF wiki mentions a 'catatonic Cloud' and when you google the topic it does give some entries so maybe it's not that unlikely either. It definitely got me intrigued as well.
I had a weird episode as a teenager though im not sure what it actually was since my mom never took me to a doctor. It lasted about a month? And I dont remember anything. My mom said she'd bring me food and i'd eat or id go to the restroom but that's all I did. Otherwise I didn't talk, barely moved and stayed in bed most of the time.
Freaks me out that I dont remember anything or what it was.
it's scary that i almost had that lmao. i had a series of panic attacks for some time and i by god believe was one step away from a catatonic state, but was somehow able to control myself and i seriosly don't know how. i also derea- and depersonalizated alot during that time which seriously affected my speech and motion. scary shit, don't ever wish for that folks
the worst thing though was that my therapists didn't seem to care, maybe because i seemed fine when i talked to them. but the symptoms were there
I went through this while having psychosis with high tinnitus.
I'm so glad this comment is in last tense. That sounds horrible!
Thank you for sharing with us! beautiful.
I don't know if you will see my comment, but i have a question. I also am diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia (and bipolar 1, but i don't think I truly have that disorder). It's been awhile, but I used to go into these short episodes (especially when I had a stressful day or dealt with panic attacks). During these episodes, i could not move at all, not even the slightest. I could not take a breath either. I was fully aware and was absolutely desperate to move. I was married at that time, and i would scream my wifes name in my head, wishing she would shake me or notice me. I was terrified since i couldn't breathe or move in any sense. Sometimes i would be crumpled in the most uncomfortable positions and would be in pain because of it. I chalked it up to sleep paralysis at first, because it seemed to happen when i would wake up in the middle of the night, but then it started happening when i would just be lying down, fully awake, not even trying to sleep. I had heard of catatonic schizophrenia and began to think maybe i was experiencing symptoms of that, however, the episodes i would have would start and stop and start again and stop again, but would only be fully being paralyzed for a few minutes at a time, but sometimes happening many times over and over each episode i went through. I started to think i was being attacked by demons, truthfully. Do you know what i could have been experiencing. This doesn't happen nearly as much as it used to, fortunately, but every now and then, i will go through it, usually when i am sitting down alone. Thank you!
Whats the difference between catatonic and extreme disassociating? which is what i have/do. Mine is trauma based and also ive noticed if im overwhelmed/extreme stress Ill enter a disassociative state to cope. During it I can hear ppl but i am not processing it. I become mute and almost frozen. Its hard to snap me out of it but since theraoy and grounding work, ive had less episodes and also can bring myself out of them which I couldn't do at one time. I have horrendous memory due to this also.
You have freezing a moment for only a few minutes. My wife had it for over 24 hours. She has to wake up in hospital.
My brother has Catatonia SZ. No Dr could help him. Thus he was in the hospital for 4 months. He ended up with a PEG tube because he couldnt move. He was locked in for months. Ativan helped to bring him out if it.
Ativan is amazing for Catatonia. Blows my mind how well it works. I’m glad he was able to get out of it, it’s scary stuff.
@@SchizoKitzo he is on a lot of meds that help with his SZ and at this point he is able to move and is aware but has gotten where he can't walk. Urinary and Bowel incontinent. Has a tremor primarily on the left side. He has what Michael J. Fox would describe when he didn't have enough of his PD meds. I kept thinking PT would help but insurance ( no go). He getting worse he was where he could go to the bathroom and kitchen. He is going from his bed to the recliner. That's his life right now. He was using a walker and started to lock up while walking, so my older brother helped him to gradually go to the floor and told him to just rest there for about 45 minutes and then he was able to get back up on the walker and move. He gets THAT stiff. My heart is broken beyond any word I could come up with. From a Star Baseball player with Trophies lined on his dresser to this. CRY
Tx, much appreciated & excellent description.
I’ve had success eliminating my episodes by going thru an adrenal recovery program under the guidance of Dr. Andrew Neville. Healing my adrenals also improved a variety of other unrelated but annoying common & uncommon issues. It took about 6-8 months & A LOT of patience, but 1,000,000 fold worth it as I feel better now than ever, mind, body & Spirit.
PS Dr. Neville & his predecessor specializes exclusively in adrenal recovery & have treated over 20,000 folks over the last 40 years. I am in no way affiliated with his practice nor am I compensated in any way by mentioning him. I simply had a very successful experience & feel knowledge of his work as a potential avenue for others is very worthwhile info to share.
Very big question I would be interested in seeing you cover: do you believe catatonia and dissociation are on the same sort of spectrum? I do have dissociative states when I'm incredibly stressed, and they can come up out of the blue for me as well. There's even been times where it's so intense, I'm seem catatonic, have an active mentality while doing so, and hearing voices.
It’s definitely on the idea list! I don’t disassociate often but to me they are different, and I think it’s an important topic to cover. Thanks for speaking up!
I am praying this does not sound insensitive, please hear me out: *observing* someone in a catatonic state....is also one of the scariest things ever.
This! This! This! Since for me it goes from complete panick to complete unresponsiveness, it’s very jarring for everyone involved.
Like yes, *I* am freaking out, but from the conversations I have had with those around me who were present in episodes…. You are so right here. They didn’t know when I’d unfreeze, heck, if I unfreeze. They were afraid for me because what if I didn’t snap out of it? But also a little for themselves because what were they supposed to do? What’s the protocol? Most people don’t even know what Catatonia is anyway, which adds to that fear aspect.
But thanks for raising this important point! Far from insensitive.
I was making a name for myself in MMA but my carrear was over as soon as I went for the big money fight for the main event against an opponent that was ruthless, years on the game making billiones of dollars on the FDA association, any way i fighted olanzapine in the octogan he was a skilled MMA fighter he knocked me out sedated me made me balloon, caused me a concussion that would cause me memory loss. At the end he lifted the gold. But if you think that was over your wrong the President held me hostage and kept booking me to fight olanzapine almost ending my carrear till this day I didnt retired because the federation punishes atleates as my self with rehab.
I'm pretty sure I've been catatonic unable to express myself in front of people when it was very nessasery in front of family the thoughts I had going was an episode it was the situation and phycosys had me not talking plus the delusions I had going on kept me away from being in the moment and away from reality being szkitofrenic kept me away from things I'm doing good now
Glad you’re doing good!
How do you be able too think clearly and get speech back and less stress and depression and get wred of stress sounds and blank mind if still suffering for nearly more than a year now
I think I might have experienced catatonia in a severe depressive episode. I remember sitting in a foetal position on the floor staring into nothing. I didn't move for a whole morning and afternoon except to eat lunch which someone had bought me. I had zero appetite. As I sat there, not moving, I remember feeling very numb, empty and very depressed. Everything seemed grey. My mind was not really functioning, like it was blank. It was a horrible experience.
Just found out your chanel. You are so easy to listen and so articulate. Video are rly informative. I have onr a question for you. I can see from your vids that you talk so easy, can you tell me do you have cognitive symptoms and how you manage them. Mine are so bad that i cant function in society at all. It is so hard to socilaze now
The most marked cognitive symptom I have is memory issues, specifically with working memory. For example, it's hard for me to do math problems because when I move onto the next step I have forgotten what I just did.
I cope by writing everything down and staying extremely organized (I use notion to keep track of my life) but it still gets me sometimes. Like how I can listen to the same podcast twice in a row and still forget over half of it. It's very frustrating and my friends and family have to be patient with me.
Other than that I have issues saying the right word sometimes due to being on lamictal, and hypomanic/manic states make it hard to get words out in the right order or make sense at all.
I hope this helps! And thanks for the comment!
@@SchizoKitzo ty so much for answer :)
So what was the warning at the start of the video?
This has happened for short period during intense trauma. Is that possible?
Catatonia is not rare. Rather it is rarely diagnosed. It also occurs in people without psychiatric conditions, including children.
The psych hospital i was in, left me in that state for over a week. Yelling at me, allowing the other patients to come up with the idea that i was faking it. I remember a lot of terrible things, the rest was very vivid like, dreams.
It’s horrible what the health system will let happen to mentally ill people. Like we didn’t ask for this, it’s not a choice to be this way. Ugh. Sorry that happened to you, hopefully one day things will be better for people.
@@SchizoKitzo Isn't it though?! I find psychiatrists and psych nurses can be very hard and antagonistic.... 😞
I wonder if i have a version of this....i have an extreme aversion to eye injuries. So if a movie or tv show has a sudden graphic eye scene that i don't expect, i immediately cover my eyes with my hands and basically duck and cover, and then I'm completely frozen. I'm aware of what's happening sometimes but other times it's like I'm dissociating and don't know how much time passes. Then when i can move my body again i just feel tired but I'm back to normal. So weird. Also while I'm frozen my husband will move me to a more comfortable position
It is like no one believes deaths grief
Can effect you. Had 😅a group of animals that were put down because my mom had passed. Fed those anamals for three year as she passed. I hurt
Myself and had a mental breakdown like that. And that person blamed me for his putting down those
Pets. Sure it can happen. Breakdowns do😢
Any kind of death can really mess with you. I have piggies and losing some of them (they don’t live very long compared to cats/dogs) really messed me up too and they were “just rodents” to some people I knew. Grief is real, and thanks for sharing. Stay strong 💪
Thank you for sharing! I have had multiple episodes in my life where I will have somewhat of an aura similar to people with epilepsy. I will have feelings of dread and deja vu. It’s a very uncomfortable feeling. Finally, after hours sometimes, I will feel lightheaded/clammy and faint. Generally after I wake up I feel better and don’t have those weird feelings anymore.
Does anyone know what this might be? I can only describe it as a panic disorder although I also experience dissociation where I feel like the things around me aren’t real and I’m in a weird dream or something.
Catatonic sounds like Catastrophic.
if u are diagnosed then brain is fuked up basically .
when i smoke weed i do feel like im dying sometimes but i take it with pride and not afraid at all.
My daughter has done this for awhile now but she is very very low functioning autistic and so I don't think it's like a building up of anxiety for us?? If that makes sense
She's about to be 8 this weekend.
There is a lot that we don’t know about it, the anxiety just plays a big role in it for me.
God Bless.
@SchizoKitzo thank you yes she also has CVS and a lot of people say stress is a trigger
because al pacino played a mentally ill character in scarecrow, he went into catatonia at the end
I experienced same thing 100% same thing and it lasted like 4 hours.
What age did your schizoaffector disorder start at ? Just subscribed to your channel today ✌
You're the coolest!
How long does catatonia last?
It sounds a little bit like sleep paralysis.
there are some overlaps in symptoms yes! But the two are very different conditions.
@@SchizoKitzo Yes, I'm sure. I don't have sleep paralysis, but I have walked and talked in my sleep, much to the amusement of my college roommate, a long, long time ago. 😉
I think I experienced this for the first time in over 20 years I used to experience it as a child then went away but just last week I woke up and couldn't move my eyes were stuck closed and the rest of me was stuck I couldn't move anything I finally started practicing mindfulness and eventually I opened my eyes then my hands and arms then I called my sister and told her what happened and then I was able to move my legs and feet then could stand but it was so scarey
That sounds scary!!! Catatonia is a wild thing to experience.
that sounds like sleep paralysis in your case
That’s sleep parlaysis, I’ve had it it’s scary and horrible
When you say you had your voices to talk to? So were you already diagnosed with schizophrenia before this catatonic episode?
I have heard voices since I was 14. So I had them then, even if I wasn’t diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder yet.
I looked this up to more understand the things my friend goes through when talking about catatonia, this sounds awful
It’s it’s own kind of he** for sure. Scary every time but does get easier, at least for me. Kinda had no choice but to get used to it. Glad I could help you understand!
Basically… "Awakenings." the video game.
(Awful joke… but I hope you get the gist.)
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How do you get out of catonia state
They bring you out through Emergency Meds
It’s different for everyone. Some people come out of it their self and some people need emergency meds. In my case I needed emergency meds because I was catatonic for 9 days straight.
How do you function in regard to working a job with this feature?
I get ample warning before it sets in so I have coping mechanisms and a protocol in place.
lol we are the birdy that faints out of the sky... whats the difference between this and dissociating? I have EUPD and it seems quite similar :)
I think the biggest difference between the two (and I experience mild disassociation so that’s the angle I’m speaking from) is that when I’m catatonic I am still all there mentally. Painfully present in the moment and trapped in my own body. When I disassociate I check out and kinda float, for better or worse, and don’t feel that same locked-in-place-trapped feeling. When I’m Catatonic I want to move. Desperately so. When I’m disassociating, not the case. So for me it’s really about the mental state when it happens that separates the two. And Catatonia can have a bunch of weird symptoms besides stupor and it gets complicated and complex fast. This is just a few differences. Hope this helps!
thank you for sharing! yeah when i dissociate i can lose a lot of awareness,@@SchizoKitzo
what is it with the correlation between mental illness and eye misalignment
It’s so strange right??? I mainly have what are called sanpaku eyes (can see the whites underneath them) and some other people with psychotic disorders have sanpaku too. I wouldn’t say there’s any scientific evidence for it, but it’s possible there is something there. I guess you could say I have a hypothesis. And psychosis can also affect how much whites you see too. It’s kinda wild!
@@SchizoKitzo i was referring more to the axial misalignment of the left eye (your left), and the need for prismatic lenses. the left eye misalignment, or sometimes a squint, seems very prevalent amongst media figures and politicians fsr as well.
@@rickdeckard1075 oh huh interesting!
My friend has catatonic stupor sometimes. She freezes into a statue. What do you suggest I do when it happens? Usually I just stay calm and wait but I don't know if that's right or sufficient?
What I tell people is to ask them what they want you to do in episodes since everyone who experiences it is different and might want different things. Hope this helps!
@@SchizoKitzo thanks for the advice. The 'nothing about me without me' approach does make sense.
They get a wall someone other times a tall waft
You’re so gorgeous!
It sounds like she actually had Kit-atonia. :-P Good Lord, what new fresh hell will your brain put you through next?
HA LOVE THAT Needed that snort laugh today
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Nice clothes!
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Someone with or even mild psychosis or schizophrenia could not make a video. Also people that are sick dont advertise it
Jesus
This keeps happening to me .
Its scary .
It happens at least once a year ..
I know its coming because its been a year since my last .
Best of luck to you!