My great-grandfather was committed to the state mental hospital in the thirties after a nervous breakdown. He was a farmer and the crops failed and he lost his grip on reality. He was there for years, died and was buried in the hospital cemetery. He was hardly spoken of, it was considered a disgrace. I’m sure he suffered horribly in that place.
I’m so SORRY about your Grandfather NO ONE DESERVES That Unfortunately back in those Day’s Mental illness was a Disgrace…. I would Love to believe things are Better today…..No One should have been put through so many thing’s in these Institutions It was disgraceful….. Watching from VIRGINIA 🌹
It’s pretty scary to think that your neurotransmitters misfiring in your brain can literally put you in a completely different reality. It goes to show just how powerful and complex the human brain is.
when you think about it, your sensory inputs and your brain are seperate in the nature of how the information is processed. What you see with your eyes open is the same as a video, it has been encoded and decoded by a alghorithm, may that be deterministic (Turing machines, computers so on) or propabylistic (energy models, analog computing, human brain etc). Psychoactive substances can make you see an entirely different world with your eyes wide open - you are seperate from your outside stimuli. Kinda scary that your brain can send you into katatonia as a defense mechanism from the continious trauma of a simple imbalance of messenger substances.
This was before the general public really knew how to treat us lol. This was probably painful and torture for those poor victims. The age of information has shifted knowledge into the minds of everybody so we can live normally amongst you.
This is very interesting…I never thought these types of mental health disorders were even thought of in those days. Thank you for this…it’s like going back in time watching your vids.
@@AnakinAtheist666Its the other way around. People were idiots back then, to the point of thinking babies didn't feel pain and other dumb shid. We have come a long way in terms of knowledge, education and technology. Doctors eventually learned that lobotomies were basically stupid and bad. So i wouldn't trust you or anyone that thinks we were smarter back then,as thats a sign of a conservative afeaid of change and lacks an social intelligence. :)
@AnakinAtheist666 labotamies we common practice...they'd give you heroin for a headache. Screwing your cousin/2nd cousin was perfectly normal...I wouldn't say they weren't as stupid, the stupid ones just weren't plastered everywhere like they are now. They used to step in cow patties cause they thought it was good for their feet. They painted houses with led paint, then wondered why we had years of serial killers and people were tempermental. We had a war because someone shot a pig back in the 1800s. We brought a bunch of people from a third world country over from across the world, enslaved them for a few hundred years, decided it was bad, then kept them here and wonder why we have so many problems now. The intelligent ones got put on broadcast back then. The stupid ones got put in the shadows. Now it's the other way around. They did alot but people in general have always been stupid
and that is why you.we still have no schizoaffective relatives with affected English accents that scream never to inappropriate New Zealand dancers in or around sports parks in Alberta
I was a little kid. And my oldest sister and my father drove my poor mother insane. I was about 4 years old when they started their Affair my father and my oldest sister. I watched them torment that woman .They beat her tormented her mentally . tear up anything nice that she got. I finally watched them drive her insane. They had a baby together and they did it right there in front of all of us. you might say why didn't she leave well that was a 60s. Women didn't get much back then they had no housing assistance. So this went on for 6 years. My mother even took them to court and tried to get it stopped. Even as a little child I thought the good fight and tried to protect my mother from those 2. Sometimes people are just evil and they caused a lot of problems. I think I might have been seven. My mother was in the State Mental Hospital she had another nervous breakdown because of them. So they went to go visit her in the mental hospital and took me with left me sitting outside on a bench. so I can hear all those people screaming sounding like they were being tortured. Wasn't that nice of them? How would you like to sit there on that bench and t h i n k your mother's being tortured? I vowed right then and there. I was going to help my mother. So my sister used to beat my mom up and so did my father. They pushed her through a glass door and cut her all up one night. She was coming home from work . When I got old enough I got a house built. I went and got my mother and she could live with me in my new home I took care of my mother for 44 years. so you can't tell me anything about schizophrenia I don't already know
Holy shit man this is insane,and a lot to take in.I hope your mom can rest in peace,and I agree some people are horrible. I personally had a father who would abuse us,me and my mom,and it was awful having to endure the pain but we got through it.Years later and he's no longer in the picture,we have our own home,we tend to our little garden as a hobby,and we go to work and just relax when we come back home and watch movies and shows. I started watching these informational videos out of curiosity.Sorry to hear about what happened to your mom,I hope she was at least doing a bit better with you taking care of her.
Most small handheld cameras o ly had enough film for a few minutes of filming, so they did this to get "more" footage, they would probably film for a few seconds, stop, and then start again
wear a mask avoid large wildlife animals during the winter especially around your garbage area and avoid bright color extremism would go a long way to deter future ailments akin to the people in the abuv that were all lobotomized buried in paupers graves and never once given a chance to attend a single art class emulating banksky picas and inspector poureiux
its madness to wear a purple body suit during the winter months while commenting on a summer black and white documentary that dissuades tourism in any form other than rich Americans and off course the royal family that is still with us
My friend has schizophrenia. Apart from delusions and hallucinations, Ive also seen her become catatonic right in front of me. She just froze like a statue and the only movement was a slight darting of her eyes. I didn't know what to do, so just waited until she suddenly began moving and speaking again about 30mins later. Freakiest thing I've ever seen.
Was she able to tell you what was going on in her head during these episodes? What was she feeling, if anything? Did she want to communicate, or was it a kind of semi-consciousness? Or were you not curious enough to ask?
@catbirdler thanks for asking. To be honest I was reluctant to talk about it with her at the time because she was deeply psychotic for about 2 years during that time. She's getting better now, the medication is working. I mentioned the catatonic episode recently and she had no idea it had happened. I really wish I'd videoed it for her.
@lamalama9717 I'm so glad to hear she's getting better. You pretty much answered the question, indirectly, so thanks. The human mind is an amazing yet mysterious labrynth, isn't it? So much still to learn.
@EastCoastGal66 yes the human mind is amazing. It's interesting, we talk about her experience sometimes now. She really had no idea about it, so I guess she was locked inside herself.
no they are all dead after bravely storming the titanic despeeratly seeking modern music equipment with which to impresss the people that are no longer interest in golf course
These people were other people's wives and husbands, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, friends and coworkers. I do wonder what happened to them.
some of them got better and walk among us, others didn't get better but were 'de-institutionalized' to a 'freedom' on the streets of exploitation. At least one was my late husband's older sister. she had a brilliant mind, but her family 'put her away' and he never had a chance to visit her. So sad.
Echopraxia.... I worked with a guy many many years ago and he had been in a major auto collision and sustained brain injury. It became evident to me in the course of supervising him that he was otherwise normal but always repeated my movement back to me as I gave him work instruction. Perfect, unconscious to him, replication of my hand movements.
Poor souls, in 1938, the best they could hope for in terms of treatment in a state mental hospital was insulin shock or metrazol convulsive therapy, possibly hydrotherapy and paraldehyde to relax them. The worst of them might have been sent for a lobotomy. Electroshock was just being introduced in Italy that year and had yet to make it to America. Some would have a remission if they were lucky and get sent home but often, it was nothing more than custodial care to keep them from harming themselves or others. Many lived what was left of their lives in those hospitals. It wasn't until the middle 1950's that the neuroleptic drugs like thorazine and the first antidepressants were offered as alternatives to that kind of care.
@@barneyronnie what was Metrazol like? I've read many horrible things about how it felt after the injection before unconsciousness set in. I'm glad you were able to get help with imipramine, one of the earliest effective antidepressants.
@randallriley What you read was accurate; the seizures were more 'explosive,' even more so than insulin shock. There were several patients who succumbed to strokes and hypothermia. After recovering from such 'treatments,' I was often unable to walk and suffered fecal incontinence. I often suffered from a dissociation and depersonalization losing my sense of self. Everything about metrazol treatment was horrible!! Lucky to still be alive. I turn 100 next August! Miracle.
@@barneyronnie I'm so glad you survived that, even though the experience was so awful. I read where one patient who was about to get their shot of Metrazol said to the doctor, "is there no cure for this treatment?" Very dreaded treatment, moreso than electroshock, because the later rendered a patient nearly instantly unconscious whereas Metrazol had a latency period of up to a full minute, where a patient experienced awful intense anxiety, dread, with heart racing, hypertension, etc. I'm sorry you went through that.
My dads friend was completely normal, but suddenly out of nowhere went schizophrenic, started hearing voices, then eventually the voices told him to burn his house down, which he did. He is getting better now and found Christ.
Diseases -ex: cancer, malaria, bacterial infection- can be asymptomatic; the identification of the defining characteristic of the disease reveals it's heretofore unseen existence -by finding the malignant cells, plasmodium, or microorganisms. This video alleges to broach 'symptoms of schizophrenia'. But what, pray tell, would be 'asymptomatic schizophrenia'? Or 'asymptomatic social apathy, delusion, hallucination, hebephrenic reaction, waxy flexibility (cerea flexibilitas), rigidity, motor stereotype, posturing, or parroting (echopraxia)'? ...Or, for that matter, how could one detect and confirm any 'asymptomatic mind disease'/'mental illness'? To flesh out this morass of error and mendacity, read TS Szsaz's 'The Myth of Mental Illness' and 'Psychiatry -the Science of Lies', for starters.
that is probably the last book we would recommend on that subject - did you see suicide squad for the last time or do you want to pretend to be a librarian full time or never
@@parker7785 That's quite a decisive, interesting perspective. Of all the books you recommend, this is the likely the very last. I presume you mean that you disliked the book, not that you found it so valuable that in your judgement it stands as the final word on the topic. Do expound. What statements of Dr Szasz do you take issue with? And what book figures first among your recommentations? And, who is the 'we' that you are?
Oh, boy. Speaking now, as an old psych nurse, I would say they were all seriously off their meds. But there weren't really much in the way of meds to be off of at the time.
As someone with OCD i thought the same thing about quite a few of these examples. Perhaps some schizophrenic behaviors are born of obsessions/compulsions on a psychotic level? So many of these brain disorders overlap...
People with schizophrenia may have obsessional thinking during active psychosis (but not have this type of thinking, or less of it, when antipsychotic medications help abate this) and these obsessions can then be expressed through unusual compulsions that fit within a psychotic experience / delusional system. For example, a person might perform a protective dance ritual. @@Cerridwen7777
catatonic schizophrenia is very strange, it feels like time itself completely dissolved and the body and mind are sometimes connected and sometimes just strung through a string
Hebephrenia > mixed-manic-depressive complexes (purple bipolar) > simple schizophrenia > catatonic schizophrenia > paranoid schizophrenia (in order of severity, from most-to-least - I suppose). It goes without saying that florid hebephrenia and catatonic are rarely-seen these days and when they do occur tend to be more attributable to bipolar disorder or psychotic depression than anything else. I imagine many schizophrenia-diagnosed patients of the earlier 1900s were misdiagnosed bipolars and we still see it today with the more personality-stable paranoid schizophrene and its over-diagnosis in young black men (many of whom, again, really have different forms of bipolar disorder). Jean’s initial story (her troubled backstory and from what we’ve actually seen on-screen/on TH-cam and what-not 2005 especially) sheds a powerful light on how extreme bipolar disorder/s really can be. It’s just that these days people think more of seasoned, slightly-unchecked cyclothymia/“bipolar-II” (soft bipolar) when they think of bipolar and at the more extreme end it’s far more than that. The over-exaggeration of schizophrenia and under-recognition of depression and even bipolar disorder in terms of severity is one of the greatest blunders in psychiatry and bare people have spoken about this over the years/decades in fairness. Even Kraepelin was far more interested in depression (severe depression) and manic psychoses than anything else. He only conceptualised of schizophrenia to serve as a bizarre counter-illness where patients had less chance of ultimate personality-re/integration and recovery but even he wasn’t sure that these things were distinct illnesses in-and-of themselves. There’s far too much overlap.
I hear voices all the time I can't ever stop them everything I do gets worse, only that helps is talking to people stay active but the voices won't stop, look at every out in the street struggling with this it's not funny
Hi there. Is it really that Bad? AM i safe dating this Autistic Schizo? I am Developmentally Delayed and Autism Spectrum and He Is Schiz and Part autistic He tells me. I am trying 2 find out If He will be supportive of Me, I can barely feel emotion sometimes or Even Know What i am feeling sadly BUT then When the Emotion shows IT is Extreme. No, I am not Schizophrenic or Psychotic but I feel Abnormal and Not from this Earth. HE is 42. My question Is by now, IS he Adjusted enough and Safe to be Around....
Find Jesus Christ, he will give you peace and hope, start reading the bible, and you are lucky to live in a time where lots of medication and help is getting better everyday for mental disorders. Hike, go to the gym, talk to friends, explore new music, learn an instrument. Keep your brain active and health.
I think the "masks" are their attempt at hiding the patient's identity...at least I hope that's the purpose of them. Probably figured they didn't need any type of permission if they were "disguised". Sad.
When it came to medical type things before the time of HIPAA they didn't need permission. Seeing as how there were some places that would force the patient to get naked and do whatever they asked while they filmed it.... honestly it seems like this place was actually trying to give their patients dignity. By modern standards its not great by by the standards of the time it was quite kind.
These people are long dead and buried. There is no consent to be given. And this was many years before hippa laws were enacted. Plus these weren't videos made to be shown to the general public. They have been unclassified now, but only other doctors and people with the right clearances were allowed to watch these videos back then.
There was no HIPPA then. Even in the 1980s there was no informed consent. My mother went through ECT and no informed consent from my parents. I feel awful what my Mom went through. I was 1 when she started getting really sick. Misdiagnosed thyroid and PPD.
No. Schizos often exhibit a desire to don masks. It's called maskopraxia. Most common in hebrephrenics. Sometimes undiagnosed schizos will pressure others to don masks and formerly, that was how they would get committed.
I am not schizophrenic but people think I am because I talk to myself and imaginary people, and I sometimes start uncontrollably laughing or crying. I dont know why I do these things:/
In all actuality, if we are all radically honest with ourselves, many of us have certain smatterings of different disorders. The question then becomes thus, does it interfere with our quality of life? That would be indicative of requiring treatment. For most of the world, the answer is no.
I pray that God stepped in these people's lives in their mind and help them cope and offered them Peace during their lifespan on this temporary Earth. Is it just me or does it seem very suspicious that there are some poor souls wearing blindfolds and wouldn't that make somebody go insane in itself?
If god was real he wouldnt have made them be like this in the first place. Your belif is absolutely disgusting and unintelligable. You are stuck in medieval times. Get a grip of reality. On one hand you say you hope god helped them. But doesnt god makes everything happen in the first place. There is no god, and you need mental help. Get a grip of reality!
pay your tab and dont comment about bathing salts online please /// buy a jacket and some hair dye and make a protest about black and white films that are no longer available due to lack of quality support in form of English speakers
@@parker7785 I say whatever I bloody well like in my comment. And you've no right to declare my attire. Whatever the heck else you said sounded like ramblings of a schizophrenic.....word salad. G t h
Some treatments are shit, accually there is many factors wich cause breakdowns, skitso. One of them is toxoplasmosis, it cause mental disorders etc, even when its latent it can cause, effect host behavior. :) Everything has reason.
Porque os olhos eram tampados ou tinha este pano na cara deles ? Estamos em 2021 e não tem um tradutor de texto disponível para dispositivos móveis incrível youtube
Don’t despair. God is always with us. He is as real as you and me. Pray to him to give you strength through your trial. I encourage you to read the Bible and always pray. I hope it gets it gets better. I truly do. God bless.
@@beautyisonlyrazordeep actually there was sound in films by then, but many documentaries were still done as silent movies when dialogue wasn't required.
from our experience 90 percent of people allegedly on meth s symptoms were induced by misdiagnosis and over medication and lack of quality skin care and lack of access to quality sports motivational venues /// the term nurse makes us all feel dead inside unless you are an actress from poetic justice in which case you should salute your delivery driver in China
Seeing these People Dressed Up is so Different people did in those Days…..To have Mask on their eyes what DAM DIFFERENCE did it make just more to upset them….It’s so Hard to see these Poor People I’m sure they Died a long time ago what a way to go…..What these People went through had to be Horrific at times I can Only HOPE today is much better for these People…. Watching From Virginia 🌹
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My great-grandfather was committed to the state mental hospital in the thirties after a nervous breakdown. He was a farmer and the crops failed and he lost his grip on reality. He was there for years, died and was buried in the hospital cemetery. He was hardly spoken of, it was considered a disgrace. I’m sure he suffered horribly in that place.
They're still horrible places to be in. Rarely is there one that treats people humanely. I've heard countless stories. It's bad.
Humans are the worst species of animal on the planet.
I’m so SORRY about your Grandfather NO ONE DESERVES That Unfortunately back in those Day’s Mental illness was a Disgrace….
I would Love to believe things are Better today…..No One should have been put through so many thing’s in these Institutions
It was disgraceful…..
Watching from VIRGINIA 🌹
R.I.P to your great grandfather.
Sorry to hear about that
It’s pretty scary to think that your neurotransmitters misfiring in your brain can literally put you in a completely different reality. It goes to show just how powerful and complex the human brain is.
when you think about it, your sensory inputs and your brain are seperate in the nature of how the information is processed.
What you see with your eyes open is the same as a video, it has been encoded and decoded by a alghorithm, may that be deterministic (Turing machines, computers so on) or propabylistic (energy models, analog computing, human brain etc).
Psychoactive substances can make you see an entirely different world with your eyes wide open - you are seperate from your outside stimuli.
Kinda scary that your brain can send you into katatonia as a defense mechanism from the continious trauma of a simple imbalance of messenger substances.
What different reality how would yr brain know? Garbage all psychiatry is garbage.
Poor souls, they didnt know what was happening. I hope they had a decent life without torture
This was before the general public really knew how to treat us lol. This was probably painful and torture for those poor victims. The age of information has shifted knowledge into the minds of everybody so we can live normally amongst you.
@@ef5supercell did doctor diagnose you?
@@monkeymagic7500 Was diagnosed 3 years ago
@@ef5supercell are you dangerous?
@@jackbrown4120 you're next
the way the doctor made the handshake in the end was so wholesome
about as wholesome as Italian bread
This is very interesting…I never thought these types of mental health disorders were even thought of in those days. Thank you for this…it’s like going back in time watching your vids.
americans weren't idiots back then as they are now
@@AnakinAtheist666Its the other way around. People were idiots back then, to the point of thinking babies didn't feel pain and other dumb shid. We have come a long way in terms of knowledge, education and technology. Doctors eventually learned that lobotomies were basically stupid and bad. So i wouldn't trust you or anyone that thinks we were smarter back then,as thats a sign of a conservative afeaid of change and lacks an social intelligence. :)
@AnakinAtheist666 labotamies we common practice...they'd give you heroin for a headache. Screwing your cousin/2nd cousin was perfectly normal...I wouldn't say they weren't as stupid, the stupid ones just weren't plastered everywhere like they are now. They used to step in cow patties cause they thought it was good for their feet. They painted houses with led paint, then wondered why we had years of serial killers and people were tempermental. We had a war because someone shot a pig back in the 1800s. We brought a bunch of people from a third world country over from across the world, enslaved them for a few hundred years, decided it was bad, then kept them here and wonder why we have so many problems now. The intelligent ones got put on broadcast back then. The stupid ones got put in the shadows. Now it's the other way around. They did alot but people in general have always been stupid
Traveling back in time and visiting these places would be a horror movie for us
and that is why you.we still have no schizoaffective relatives with affected English accents that scream never to inappropriate New Zealand dancers in or around sports parks in Alberta
I was a little kid. And my oldest sister and my father drove my poor mother insane. I was about 4 years old when they started their Affair my father and my oldest sister. I watched them torment that woman .They beat her tormented her mentally . tear up anything nice that she got. I finally watched them drive her insane. They had a baby together and they did it right there in front of all of us. you might say why didn't she leave well that was a 60s. Women didn't get much back then they had no housing assistance. So this went on for 6 years. My mother even took them to court and tried to get it stopped. Even as a little child I thought the good fight and tried to protect my mother from those 2. Sometimes people are just evil and they caused a lot of problems. I think I might have been seven. My mother was in the State Mental Hospital she had another nervous breakdown because of them. So they went to go visit her in the mental hospital and took me with left me sitting outside on a bench. so I can hear all those people screaming sounding like they were being tortured. Wasn't that nice of them? How would you like to sit there on that bench and t h i n k your mother's being tortured? I vowed right then and there. I was going to help my mother. So my sister used to beat my mom up and so did my father. They pushed her through a glass door and cut her all up one night. She was coming home from work . When I got old enough I got a house built. I went and got my mother and she could live with me in my new home I took care of my mother for 44 years. so you can't tell me anything about schizophrenia I don't already know
in my opinion you are evil incarnate because you listen to metal music and pretend to speak English
You doing okay?
Holy shit man this is insane,and a lot to take in.I hope your mom can rest in peace,and I agree some people are horrible.
I personally had a father who would abuse us,me and my mom,and it was awful having to endure the pain but we got through it.Years later and he's no longer in the picture,we have our own home,we tend to our little garden as a hobby,and we go to work and just relax when we come back home and watch movies and shows.
I started watching these informational videos out of curiosity.Sorry to hear about what happened to your mom,I hope she was at least doing a bit better with you taking care of her.
woah
Sweet home alabama! Crazy story, hope you are doing good man... 😳
Wow, real footage of waxy flexibility is super rare, this is amazing
Agreed. Peace-out
Are you studying to be a physician or researcher.
And the way the camera skips really freaks me out it makes it look scary and crazy.. it makes their body movements look unnatural.....
Yes I always notice things like that what you mentioned; these old films and patients movements look really weird, odd, creepy and scary. YIKES!
Most small handheld cameras o ly had enough film for a few minutes of filming, so they did this to get "more" footage, they would probably film for a few seconds, stop, and then start again
Thank you for sharing all these interesting videos with us!
wear a mask avoid large wildlife animals during the winter especially around your garbage area and avoid bright color extremism would go a long way to deter future ailments akin to the people in the abuv that were all lobotomized buried in paupers graves and never once given a chance to attend a single art class emulating banksky picas and inspector poureiux
this is so sad :(
I feel bad for people who had to go through this, people even still think it's just some sort of madness
its madness to wear a purple body suit during the winter months while commenting on a summer black and white documentary that dissuades tourism in any form other than rich Americans and off course the royal family that is still with us
Remarkably interesting material, thanks for sharing!
My friend has schizophrenia. Apart from delusions and hallucinations, Ive also seen her become catatonic right in front of me. She just froze like a statue and the only movement was a slight darting of her eyes. I didn't know what to do, so just waited until she suddenly began moving and speaking again about 30mins later. Freakiest thing I've ever seen.
Was she able to tell you what was going on in her head during these episodes? What was she feeling, if anything? Did she want to communicate, or was it a kind of semi-consciousness? Or were you not curious enough to ask?
@catbirdler thanks for asking. To be honest I was reluctant to talk about it with her at the time because she was deeply psychotic for about 2 years during that time.
She's getting better now, the medication is working. I mentioned the catatonic episode recently and she had no idea it had happened. I really wish I'd videoed it for her.
@lamalama9717 I'm so glad to hear she's getting better. You pretty much answered the question, indirectly, so thanks. The human mind is an amazing yet mysterious labrynth, isn't it? So much still to learn.
It almost sounds like the catatonic state is some form of seizure . The human brain is extraordinary.
@EastCoastGal66 yes the human mind is amazing. It's interesting, we talk about her experience sometimes now. She really had no idea about it, so I guess she was locked inside herself.
Firstime watching this kind of material unsealed and released.
Thanks for the uploads.
Peace-out
peace y//ourself to a long dive into a frozen shallow and non polluted lake
They are making their symptoms worse. I hope someone actually helped them.
no they are all dead after bravely storming the titanic despeeratly seeking modern music equipment with which to impresss the people that are no longer interest in golf course
These people were other people's wives and husbands, sons and daughters, mothers and fathers, friends and coworkers. I do wonder what happened to them.
some of them got better and walk among us, others didn't get better but were 'de-institutionalized' to a 'freedom' on the streets of exploitation. At least one was my late husband's older sister. she had a brilliant mind, but her family 'put her away' and he never had a chance to visit her. So sad.
At some point there were many who were lobotomized, I’d imagine.
Echopraxia.... I worked with a guy many many years ago and he had been in a major auto collision and sustained brain injury. It became evident to me in the course of supervising him that he was otherwise normal but always repeated my movement back to me as I gave him work instruction. Perfect, unconscious to him, replication of my hand movements.
Unimaginable what some of these people went through in early life to end up here
They have a disease, schizophrenia...
I would be in the same state or dead without the meds...scary
i get the feeling these people only got worse after being admitted
no actually they all made remarkable recovery and now are all accredited doctors and mental health nurses in Ontario
Poor souls, in 1938, the best they could hope for in terms of treatment in a state mental hospital was insulin shock or metrazol convulsive therapy, possibly hydrotherapy and paraldehyde to relax them. The worst of them might have been sent for a lobotomy. Electroshock was just being introduced in Italy that year and had yet to make it to America. Some would have a remission if they were lucky and get sent home but often, it was nothing more than custodial care to keep them from harming themselves or others. Many lived what was left of their lives in those hospitals. It wasn't until the middle 1950's that the neuroleptic drugs like thorazine and the first antidepressants were offered as alternatives to that kind of care.
Thorazine was considered a chemical lobotomy.
I got metrazol, and then later, imipramine. It still works. I have been on it since 1957.
@@barneyronnie what was Metrazol like? I've read many horrible things about how it felt after the injection before unconsciousness set in. I'm glad you were able to get help with imipramine, one of the earliest effective antidepressants.
@randallriley What you read was accurate; the seizures were more 'explosive,' even more so than insulin shock. There were several patients who succumbed to strokes and hypothermia. After recovering from such 'treatments,' I was often unable to walk and suffered fecal incontinence. I often suffered from a dissociation and depersonalization losing my sense of self. Everything about metrazol treatment was horrible!! Lucky to still be alive. I turn 100 next August! Miracle.
@@barneyronnie I'm so glad you survived that, even though the experience was so awful. I read where one patient who was about to get their shot of Metrazol said to the doctor, "is there no cure for this treatment?" Very dreaded treatment, moreso than electroshock, because the later rendered a patient nearly instantly unconscious whereas Metrazol had a latency period of up to a full minute, where a patient experienced awful intense anxiety, dread, with heart racing, hypertension, etc. I'm sorry you went through that.
Como podemos ver a terapia medicinal ainda não estava tão adiantada como nos dias de hoje....
nada 41
My dads friend was completely normal, but suddenly out of nowhere went schizophrenic, started hearing voices, then eventually the voices told him to burn his house down, which he did. He is getting better now and found Christ.
Burning a house seems to be a common symptom.
@@yankalu2000 yep
There is no need to look for Christ, there is no God
At least you didn't claim he was getting better BECAUSE of Christ.
Found who? Well if he found christ he is still schizophrenic my friend! Since he is talking to a man thats been dead for 2000 years. Lmao.
A heartbreaking illness 💔😢
Does anyone know the reason behind the eye masks?
Probably to hide identity
I thought they were commonly used following a lobotomy procedure. That may not be correct, though. I, too, am curious.
3:39 the door dash driver when u don’t tip
Diseases -ex: cancer, malaria, bacterial infection- can be asymptomatic; the identification of the defining characteristic of the disease reveals it's heretofore unseen existence -by finding the malignant cells, plasmodium, or microorganisms.
This video alleges to broach 'symptoms of schizophrenia'.
But what, pray tell, would be 'asymptomatic schizophrenia'?
Or 'asymptomatic social apathy, delusion, hallucination, hebephrenic reaction, waxy flexibility (cerea flexibilitas), rigidity, motor stereotype, posturing, or parroting (echopraxia)'? ...Or, for that matter, how could one detect and confirm any 'asymptomatic mind disease'/'mental illness'?
To flesh out this morass of error and mendacity, read TS Szsaz's 'The Myth of Mental Illness' and 'Psychiatry -the Science of Lies', for starters.
that is probably the last book we would recommend on that subject - did you see suicide squad for the last time or do you want to pretend to be a librarian full time or never
@@parker7785 That's quite a decisive, interesting perspective. Of all the books you recommend, this is the likely the very last.
I presume you mean that you disliked the book, not that you found it so valuable that in your judgement it stands as the final word on the topic.
Do expound. What statements of Dr Szasz do you take issue with? And what book figures first among your recommentations?
And, who is the 'we' that you are?
I find psychology endlessly interesting
This is psychiatry. But totally interesting.
@@HolocausticaYea, but it's a pseudoscience. 😂
This explains some of my symptoms of anxiety.
your cat is malaise
Oh, boy. Speaking now, as an old psych nurse, I would say they were all seriously off their meds. But there weren't really much in the way of meds to be off of at the time.
Is there no sound on these videos or is my phone audio messed up???
No sound
The title says silent
ancient labelling with great consequenses for those labelled....today is a little leap forward, but not much
4:20 This looks like an OCD ritual.
As someone with OCD i thought the same thing about quite a few of these examples. Perhaps some schizophrenic behaviors are born of obsessions/compulsions on a psychotic level? So many of these brain disorders overlap...
People with schizophrenia may have obsessional thinking during active psychosis (but not have this type of thinking, or less of it, when antipsychotic medications help abate this) and these obsessions can then be expressed through unusual compulsions that fit within a psychotic experience / delusional system. For example, a person might perform a protective dance ritual. @@Cerridwen7777
You're right, it does.
One major difference here is that while OCD symptoms are ego-dystonic, mannerism in schizophrenia is ego-syntonic.
Exactly! I thought this too immediately
catatonic schizophrenia is very strange, it feels like time itself completely dissolved and the body and mind are sometimes connected and sometimes just strung through a string
Ah those crazy hazy pre chlorpromazine days ... brutal scary and nightmarish
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Hebephrenia > mixed-manic-depressive complexes (purple bipolar) > simple schizophrenia > catatonic schizophrenia > paranoid schizophrenia (in order of severity, from most-to-least - I suppose).
It goes without saying that florid hebephrenia and catatonic are rarely-seen these days and when they do occur tend to be more attributable to bipolar disorder or psychotic depression than anything else. I imagine many schizophrenia-diagnosed patients of the earlier 1900s were misdiagnosed bipolars and we still see it today with the more personality-stable paranoid schizophrene and its over-diagnosis in young black men (many of whom, again, really have different forms of bipolar disorder). Jean’s initial story (her troubled backstory and from what we’ve actually seen on-screen/on TH-cam and what-not 2005 especially) sheds a powerful light on how extreme bipolar disorder/s really can be. It’s just that these days people think more of seasoned, slightly-unchecked cyclothymia/“bipolar-II” (soft bipolar) when they think of bipolar and at the more extreme end it’s far more than that. The over-exaggeration of schizophrenia and under-recognition of depression and even bipolar disorder in terms of severity is one of the greatest blunders in psychiatry and bare people have spoken about this over the years/decades in fairness. Even Kraepelin was far more interested in depression (severe depression) and manic psychoses than anything else. He only conceptualised of schizophrenia to serve as a bizarre counter-illness where patients had less chance of ultimate personality-re/integration and recovery but even he wasn’t sure that these things were distinct illnesses in-and-of themselves. There’s far too much overlap.
Outstanding
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I hear voices all the time I can't ever stop them everything I do gets worse, only that helps is talking to people stay active but the voices won't stop, look at every out in the street struggling with this it's not funny
Stay active , stay busy talk to your friends , family . Be strong. Best wish to you.
Hi there. Is it really that Bad? AM i safe dating this Autistic Schizo? I am Developmentally Delayed and Autism Spectrum and He Is Schiz and Part autistic He tells me. I am trying 2 find out If He will be supportive of Me, I can barely feel emotion sometimes or Even Know What i am feeling sadly BUT then When the Emotion shows IT is Extreme. No, I am not Schizophrenic or Psychotic but I feel Abnormal and Not from this Earth. HE is 42. My question Is by now, IS he Adjusted enough and Safe to be Around....
Find Jesus Christ, he will give you peace and hope, start reading the bible, and you are lucky to live in a time where lots of medication and help is getting better everyday for mental disorders. Hike, go to the gym, talk to friends, explore new music, learn an instrument. Keep your brain active and health.
@@swizxt3902Thats even worse. Stop it, god isnt real, jesus isnt coming back. Get help you are just as bad as being schizophrenic.
@@swizxt3902I hope you get what you deserve, for making the world a worse place by spreading misinformation about imaginary characters.
i finally found NotAgentClarks footage archieve :)
The doctor making the lady appear sleepy as she almost fell out of the chair. And then he didn't want to dance with her, shame on him.
Heartbreaking.
about as heartbreaking as your haircut routine one year ago
@@parker7785 What? 🤔
My ex gfs bf had it. I saw so many pages of books drawings more than you can imagine. Unfortunately he hung himself.
Change is good sometimes.
It's ciber wear fare , idk why or what but it's everywhere they blame it on drugs, it could be but it's every where
This is scary dammit
Mental illness is genetically inherit. Searching for your families background can help you prevent the factors that can trigger your disease .
I don’t think any of these people are legally competent to give a release in order to be filmed and have this shown on here
I think the "masks" are their attempt at hiding the patient's identity...at least I hope that's the purpose of them. Probably figured they didn't need any type of permission if they were "disguised". Sad.
When it came to medical type things before the time of HIPAA they didn't need permission. Seeing as how there were some places that would force the patient to get naked and do whatever they asked while they filmed it.... honestly it seems like this place was actually trying to give their patients dignity. By modern standards its not great by by the standards of the time it was quite kind.
These people are long dead and buried. There is no consent to be given. And this was many years before hippa laws were enacted. Plus these weren't videos made to be shown to the general public. They have been unclassified now, but only other doctors and people with the right clearances were allowed to watch these videos back then.
There was no HIPPA then. Even in the 1980s there was no informed consent. My mother went through ECT and no informed consent from my parents. I feel awful what my Mom went through. I was 1 when she started getting really sick. Misdiagnosed thyroid and PPD.
The patients were not even asked if they wanted a lobotomy or not. Their permission wasn't needed. The doctors just went ahead with the operations.
someone fill me in what is up with the eye bindels or googles they're wearing. what was the point of that?
To censor their identity, pretty sure. Idk if image blurring hadn't yet been invented or it's just more easy and cheap.
The white cloth masks are to protect the patients' identities?
No. Schizos often exhibit a desire to don masks. It's called maskopraxia. Most common in hebrephrenics. Sometimes undiagnosed schizos will pressure others to don masks and formerly, that was how they would get committed.
@@mikezylstra7514 could u elaborate on this more it makes no sense to me
@@indigodovesss I told you all you need to know. You can't even use the word "schizophrenia" anymore. That should tell you something.
@@mikezylstra7514 Thanks for that, I didn't think it was for identity protection.
@@stevenhulbert7540 Masking in Western Society is not a normal thing.
The 2nd patient looked like they were working a virtual reality type computer interface.
I am not schizophrenic but people think I am because I talk to myself and imaginary people, and I sometimes start uncontrollably laughing or crying. I dont know why I do these things:/
your nuts or just love the attention
In all actuality, if we are all radically honest with ourselves, many of us have certain smatterings of different disorders. The question then becomes thus, does it interfere with our quality of life? That would be indicative of requiring treatment. For most of the world, the answer is no.
Are you very lonely? I am at times and find my self yapping away and laughing...
You do know why
maybe psychosis. get it checked out
Why are they blindfolded tho😳
To protect their identities.
@@rhondamadgirl Gotcha ! Thanks
@@LuisaD93or maybe because they had some kind of surgeries done?
@@Emily-cw7tj 🤷♀️
@@LuisaD93 my thoughts exactly 😂
I think it's normal to have a private grin, if you think of something that was funny from the past.
that is why people end up like scarface
I pray that God stepped in these people's lives in their mind and help them cope and offered them Peace during their lifespan on this temporary Earth. Is it just me or does it seem very suspicious that there are some poor souls wearing blindfolds and wouldn't that make somebody go insane in itself?
100%
If god was real he wouldnt have made them be like this in the first place.
Your belif is absolutely disgusting and unintelligable.
You are stuck in medieval times.
Get a grip of reality.
On one hand you say you hope god helped them. But doesnt god makes everything happen in the first place.
There is no god, and you need mental help.
Get a grip of reality!
The drug bath salts induces similar body movements to waxy catatonic.
pay your tab and dont comment about bathing salts online please /// buy a jacket and some hair dye and make a protest about black and white films that are no longer available due to lack of quality support in form of English speakers
@@parker7785 I say whatever I bloody well like in my comment. And you've no right to declare my attire. Whatever the heck else you said sounded like ramblings of a schizophrenic.....word salad. G t h
sad to see this..😰😰
Some treatments are shit, accually there is many factors wich cause breakdowns, skitso. One of them is toxoplasmosis, it cause mental disorders etc, even when its latent it can cause, effect host behavior. :) Everything has reason.
Interesting you would say that. Current research is looking into viral infections during pregnancy leading to schizophrenic children.
It is the comment section of these videos I find most interesting 🧐
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my old Psych Professor LIVED to say that term, "" " waxy flexibility!!
and that is why we wear a mask and you remain ugly in spirit content and image and word choice !!! good luck on the flexibility forums tho!!!!
Why did they cover their eyes like that
HIPPA
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
@@lupecampoy5872that wasn't around back then
One out of 100 people eventually develop schizophrenia? Whaaaa?? wow these people did not do maths
Porque os olhos eram tampados ou tinha este pano na cara deles ? Estamos em 2021 e não tem um tradutor de texto disponível para dispositivos móveis incrível youtube
There is no audio , the people had a weird obsession with covering their face
Why the gauze around the eyes?
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
Sad.
Хорошо что есть места локализации
I will even get you a straight jacket that will fit you the best.
You talking to the voices in your head homie?
Tf
i see this as proof that after life is exist
My mental illness journey started with psychotic depression and evolved to schizophrenia. Now theres nothing left. Schizphrenia is the last stop
Don’t despair. God is always with us. He is as real as you and me. Pray to him to give you strength through your trial. I encourage you to read the Bible and always pray. I hope it gets it gets better. I truly do. God bless.
prayers from Michigan
@@amberclinton7324 Looks like you suffer from schizophrenia as well..
Why are thier eyes covered?
5:30 amazing
And depressing
_This is where the 333-333-333 videos came from._
Why are they blindfolded?
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
3:43 And why is this man not wearing anything in his eyes? Is it someone famous?
The film may be silent, but I can hear Hasil Adkins ...
hmmm, wonder if anyone of these people are alive today?
Matt Selvy I'm sure,they passed on the age was in the film.and that place is shut down too.
Do the math, what year was the video?
These were grown adults in 1938. None of them are alive today.
Yes,both of them.
I am. 98 years young.❤
Poor souls lost in there minds i had psychosis to its hell on earth let alone schizophrenia bend reality 😊
bend yourself into a sparkling beverage vendor machine that does not work in January
Wow, i felt just if i heard too much pink floyd
Exactly my thought or the Doors...
What's with all the blindfolds
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
Spooky with no sound…..
At least they have someone to talk to...
Always:DDDDDDDDDDDD
Basicallly like working on a dementia unit now a days
They are free from sin. Thier disorder saved them.
I think people like this, who are unable to mentally function, God has them. I'm sure they are with him right now in perfect bodies.
8:13 serios man
You really need to get help. If you want me to I will get in contact with the best mental health professional that I can find.
TF you talking about?
Why the eye things
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
Why do they have masks on?
Probably to hide the victim's identities
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
No sound
1938
@@beautyisonlyrazordeep actually there was sound in films by then, but many documentaries were still done as silent movies when dialogue wasn't required.
@@catbirdler good to know
Kinds reminds me of people that are on meth. As a nurse you see a lot
from our experience 90 percent of people allegedly on meth s symptoms were induced by misdiagnosis and over medication and lack of quality skin care and lack of access to quality sports motivational venues /// the term nurse makes us all feel dead inside unless you are an actress from poetic justice in which case you should salute your delivery driver in China
@parker7785 so basically you are saying from experience you are on meth
Evil spirits are real 💔🙏
This was wrong to video tape these people without their consent.
Water talk to me
2:15
her that would be you of course.
Douche bag
Um, I thought Zorro was a man.
i do this
Seeing these People Dressed Up is so Different people did in those Days…..To have Mask on their eyes what DAM DIFFERENCE did it make just more to upset them….It’s so Hard to see these Poor People I’m sure they Died a long time ago what a way to go…..What these People went through had to be Horrific at times I can Only HOPE today is much better for these People….
Watching From Virginia 🌹
Not sure but the masks could've been used to hide their identity for the film.
that man laughs because he sees ninjaturtles
someone can explain why they wear mask?
hide their identity?
thats what i thought, but at the same time i've been wondering if in that years privacy was a thing.
It would be funny if in addition to the mask eyes they included a COVID-type surgical mask
Masks scared me a bit..I am a 38 year old MAN
sure?
🤣🤣
How the hell you handling covid?
Camaro Chic lmfaooo
@@leavingayeye5198 you aint lyin