I had already pre-ordered a T16S for me to get started with (new to the hobby), I was a bit nervous when I saw the title of the video, but I think I made the right choice! Thank you for covering these options as they were the 2 in my price range that I was undecided between.
Saw your videos, made the apm work, so some more of your videos, threw the apm, bought a holibro pixhawk, bought a radio master tx16s, bought the cross fire and unify system...you are the wizard of knowledge for Rc flyers...
Shortly after booking my radiomaster tx16s I have seen the jumper t18 and I thought if I made a good choice with the radiomaster. But after watching more videos about the junper t18 I prefer the radio master. 👍👍👍👍
I'm also sold on the antenna.. plus the price.. I just got my Radio Master in the mail but I also just bought a Kawasaki Versys 300 X so I have been to distracted to spend any time with this fantastic new TX.. The Versys here in Southern Oregon USA is a blast in this mild summer season.. I will get around to this new TX eventually.. I mostly bought it because I didn't trust the ribbon cables on my Jumper anymore... I had one fail and had to replace it right out of the box.
I have a 'love, hate' relationship with my Taranis se I bought just before the release of the new series transmitters last year. Technology moves at such a pace it's sometimes difficult to keep up. Think I'll stick with what I have. Update/upgrade can actually be quite stressful. I don't know how others feel? Good to have a choice though.
Can I ask you if having outdated firmware on my Taranis QX7 would cause bind issues on a recently purchased BNF with a frsky XM Plus transmitter..thank you for your advice that you can offer
Great comparison, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😊 Actually, even pinchers liked the thicker part of the TX16S. And the fact that you can buy it from Banggood with the Crossfire mini included is perfect! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I originally wanted one of these, but after watching this video, I've now changed my mind. I fly 2.4 all spektrum. If the multi protocol module is no better than my regular Spektrum dx6 I can't see any benefit apart from more channels and a bigger colour screen. Thanks for the very useful video.
@@Mikeylikesit1968 why do I need more than 6 channels? With mixing I have 6 flight modes with Inav plus one channel for arming and autotune. I've had my Dx6 for 5 years, how many people will still be using either of these radios in 5 years. I wasn't trying to start a spektrum bashing thread, I was merely mentioning that that's the radio I currently have.
@@kevinmahoney9205 you're right I dont need Flaps/retracts etc. I fly Inav wings. I actually like the idea that I can get a basic radio to do so much, but I was nearly tempted by the radiomaster.
I tend to agree with your summation. Also consider that the R9 performance of the Jumper T18 is limited 300mW whereas the external module can go to 500mW - sort of important if you are going long range. That said, I will wait for a V2 of the Radiomaster because my Jumper T16 hasn't missed a beat (yet) and hopefully Radiomaster will come-up with a better looking face-plate because the TX16S looks like a 4 year olds toy !
Great info as always Lee. Again I’m late to the party as I ordered my radio master yesterday and spotted your video this morning lol 😂 good choice sir !👊🏻
Don't think you mentioned it but the Radiomaster also has internal charging, it's a small feature but really nice. Overall the Radiomaster is just a nicer package. Once the touchcreen is fully implemented, I'd love to see a smaller radio with a large screen, something in-between the T12 and TX16s.
Interesting take on the power output of the multi-modules. I built one of the original 4in1 modules, around the Atmel processor, a few years back. I’ve since measured the power output on most protocols and it averages 140mW to 160mW. I’ve recently (last few days) acquired a JP-4in1 module for its STM processor and extra memory and have yet to measure the output. I agree with your “park flyer” comment but that’s when using Spektrum... because, you know, Spektrum. If stock ever reaches the UK I think the Radiomaster will be the one for me. Like you I’m not interested in the R9 system as I’m still heavily invested in the EzUHF system. Nidge.
I compared range on dsm2 with authentic spektrum receiver. Comparing Dx9 vs Irangex lite on on x9 lite I got 120 feet more distance on external module. I fly helicopters so the range exceeds LOS .
To be truthfully. I'm not a fan of either radio so, I'm sticking with my FrSky Taranis X9D Plus SE. The only things if I could change would be a color screen and a roller switch. Thanks for your input excellent as always.
I had to return my TX16 because the left gimbal would not center. Tried calibrating every way possible. Not great quality control! Ordered the T18 now so fingers crossed.
I'm new to all the open source radios, I'm a bit old school still but been flying FPV for a while with my DMS2 radios, I bought a Radiolink a year ago because i cant get my old radios to work with my goggles but cant get the headtracking cable to work anymore and they have stopped making the cable I need. Does the Radiomaster support headtrackng??
I am currently using the T16. I have 2 external modules (R9 and CrsF lite). Dependent on which quad I fly, I need to change the module everytime. Seeing that the Jumper T18 has R9 in the internal module it would be perfect for me, because then I don't have to swap external modules everytime. Just keep the CrsF module in and I can fly all my quads (R9, Crsf, and frsky from the internal module). After watching this video I am doubting what to do.
Well, the T18 internal 900mHz is only 300 mW instead 1W on R9 module so its more like R9 Lite. Also some say the protocol isn't genuine Frsky protocol but more like a reverse engineered protocol. And why would you swapping 900 mHz modules? Usually people will choose either R9 or Crossfire but not both :p
I am happy to have chosen the Radiomaster. In the Jumper T18 I don't like that for the 2.4ghz it is limited to the internal antenna with a lower range. But above all and much more serious are the problems of incompatibility with r9. Jumper could have produced something better, Frsky with some updates is making the r9 receivers unusable with this multiprotocol module. Instead the radiomaster tx16s is compatible with all frsky receivers, even those that frsky is making incompatible with its own old models. With the external module the differences are smoothed out, but then why pay more for the Jumper T18 to have a radio whose value is the internal multiprotocol module if it then has these limitations? At this moment I would not even choose Frsky radio controls, its very questionable commercial policy is to make its own old receivers incompatible on its new products. I find this a discourtesy towards those who have spent a lot of money on Frsky products.
Hi, I've been out of the loop for a long time and have no idea what R9 or CRSS is! I fly fixed wing only and I have two radios, one is the Graupner MZ 24 with an excellent colour touch screen and good telemetry and ergonomics. The other radio is a very cheap radioLink AT10, also with colour screen. The sliders are rubbish but the gimbals and switches are pretty good. Quoted range for both radios is 4km although I only fly line of sight. I like the idea of multi protocol, especially as it's possible to use my Graupner receivers and also use Spektrum because there are many tempting models from Horizon Hobby which are ready to fly out of the box but it would seem that multi protocol just doesn't have the range I want? I have 3ms rock solid performance from both of these radios at maximum line of sight, and for my eight foot power glider that's a fair distance away when only just visible, so would you please explain crossfire and why it seems to be an advantage? I think that sometimes, advancements in technology can also be a step backwards, after all, they want you to keep buying the latest gear!
Just to be clear here, the Jumper T18 supports r9, but not the 2019 version. Which means the jumper is incompatible with any of the r9 receivers that say "OTA" or "ACCESS" because they run access instead of ACCST. Right?
the internal ant on the t18 is a standard ufl connector.... meaning you can un-plug it then replace with a ufl-sma connector.... meaning you can run say a 5W booster for the 2.4g signal! :-P You are welcome!
Painless, I have a technical question: You mentioned that you would not use a multi module radio for anything other than park flyer because of the limited power output. However the Jumper module puts out 22dbm which is equal to 158mW verses 100mW output power of the most expensive Futaba radios. Is there something about this that I don’t understand.
Thanks Painless, I found the excellent video. I guess I’m lucky that all my 26 fixed wing models use FlySky receivers and in that mode the module puts out approximately 100mW, same a $3,000 Futaba radio. I do realize that the module itself my introduce additional losses but I don’t feel the module is limiting my range significantly if at all. I do ground test all new models and constantly monitor the RSSI. If I were flying FreSky or Futaba receivers I might feel differently. Thanks for your replies and all your excellent videos.
You miss one important point: customer service. Seven month ago i had a problem with my jumper and ask for help. No response. And i am not the only one. On tuesday my Radiomaster arrived and i had a small issue. I wrote radiomaster and six hours later i get a mail with the solution. We all make mistakes, it depends how you work with this.
Hi great video, but have you done one on performance and build quality? I have one of the original T16's which I upgraded but it is still very poor quality, and have yet to replace the ribbon cables. I turned it on yesterday after a couple of months and got all sorts of errors come up, so thinking about another Open Tx radio, but to be honest dont want the same performance again. I use Spektrum on fixed wing. What are your thoughts on quality ??
It's always personal preference. I have used a jumper t16 just felt like a cheap plastic radio. I will stick with my Horus. Like the weight and has a quality feel.
I 100% agree with all of this and I would pick my jumper T16 pro over the T18 because of the internal antenna. And I bought the jumper because my x9d died switch it on one day nothing happened. And for me T16 v x9d T16 wins but that's me!!
I'm jealous i ordered the radiomaster 3 times now the first time didn't clear customs in china (bamggood) second time it went out of stock, third time I bought today(aliexpress) lol hope it ships soon
Hello Sir, Thanks for sharing all Your videos. I really enjoy them and learn a lot. I've just bought the Jumper T18Pro and more or less regretted it already, due to the build-in PCB 2,4Ghz antenna. In Your opinion, would You trust this radio bound with a Hitec Optima 9 receiver (tuned properly of course) with a $6.000 plane? Have a great week-end. Regards Kim
I've not used the MPM for long enough to trust it to that extent. I'd use a dedicated module in the JR Bay for the receiver you're using and an adjustable antenna. Just my own two cents..
@@Painless360 Thanks a lot for Your reply. Your two cents can suddenly represent a whole other value. Highly appreciated. So is the Jumper and Radiomaster merely for "park flyers" and quads etc.?
@@kimjeppesen2172 Better you should use an Crossfire with Diversity Receiver. .. better then an Old Optima Receiver.... if your Plane 6000$ thats an smart investment
Will do, I'm waiting for the OpenTX official version as I'm playing with mine on nightlies and there seems to be an issue with the script crashing.. Stay tuned!
Just a note I am a hybrid pincher and I moved from a t16 to a tx16s after seeing the antenna for the t18. Just want to say I was worried about it being thicker but it feels the same if not better than the t16 and I have fairly small hands (x9d is to larger for me to)
Question... Did Jumper upgrade the scroll wheel to metal or is it still the flimsy plastic. And which radio has better quality switches that is nothing going to break after the first season of flying..
@@Painless360 Ah ... sorry ... I skipped through so many videos and could not keep track who flies how. For a thumber there is probably no significant draw backs on the Radiomaster. Battery life, use a 2S 5000 mAh, sliders who needs those, frsky access, well we all end up using crossfire anyway. Thing is I have the X7 and the ergonomic is not right for my palm.
Anyone know if the removable upper panel on the Jumper T16 fits the Tx16s? I want to keep the removable antenna if I were to switch to a tx16s. No charging on the t18 means no go for me.
Both are very similar. It used to be that hall effect gimbals were shorthand for the best quality. I'd be happy with either... No real choice either way for me.
I’ve not set up my T18 pro bc I’m letting these reviews get to me. But I should just go with my gut and stick with it. Especially if the hype for jumper is going away. I rocked FRsky for this long with all their drama. I think I’m going to give Jumper the upper hand and let them develop this radio and I’ll tag along for the ride. I’m mostly CRSF anyway. F it
@@Painless360 thank you just don't know what version to get of the radiomaster tx16s would I need the one with the 4 in 1 module one . I have seen alot of different prices on that radio so it's a little confusing
@@mcferran6720 yes dude, your radio is overpriced and lacking numerous features of the Radiomaster. Is that what you needed to hear? It's not hard for a product to be "better" when it's 40 dollars cheaper than the Taranis with way more features and a beautiful screen.
@@workshopbeastsfpv413 , Nice thing about multi modules, I can keep my DSMX, Futaba SFHSS receivers for use in my helis. I actually got slightly better range on DSMX protocol on multi module vs Spektrum DX9 when I ranged tested.
I cancelled my T18 Pro when the reviews came out. I fly a ton of 2.4 so will get the Radiomaster plus a Crossfire module (for just 2 quads). I only have one concern: 1:28 - I'm looking for a radio to replace my DX9 and X9 Lite so I only need charge and take one radio to the field. I fly planes, gliders, quads ... everything ... and am now concerned whether the MPM will have enough oomph. Perhaps I should be retaining the DX9 for flying a small handful of expensive balsa aircraft ... What about diversity - 2 TX aerials to improve the reliability of the connection - guess that has to be out of the window as well ...
This statement also got me wondering now if I can use my multi protocall module with a futaba reciever in one of my nicer balsa planes, maybe someone can tell us whats the way to go if you want one radio to rule them all, aka park flyer and 1/4 scale plane flying.
Jumper keeps messing up radios. The T16 was kinda a miss - charging, battery bay, ribbon cables. The T18 is also kinda a miss - still no charging solution the battery bay is too small, the gimbals are meh, the 5in1 module isn't quite sorted out, no touchscreen... the list goes on.
@@Painless360 exactly! I asked FrSky several times during two years for a taranis like model with color screen, premium parts (for say 100 euro more) and full speed crossfire support....still not sure why they don't produce something like that and let this gap in the market open for jumper/radiomaster to jump in. Still love my 7 years old taranis (first model) though!
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I had already pre-ordered a T16S for me to get started with (new to the hobby), I was a bit nervous when I saw the title of the video, but I think I made the right choice! Thank you for covering these options as they were the 2 in my price range that I was undecided between.
Saw your videos, made the apm work, so some more of your videos, threw the apm, bought a holibro pixhawk, bought a radio master tx16s, bought the cross fire and unify system...you are the wizard of knowledge for Rc flyers...
Sir you are the king in review. Very clear and straight..... carry on with your good work
Shortly after booking my radiomaster tx16s I have seen the jumper t18 and I thought if I made a good choice with the radiomaster. But after watching more videos about the junper t18 I prefer the radio master. 👍👍👍👍
A small thing like charging the unit is quite important for me.
The charging via usb and the external antenna on the radiomaster sold it for me over the jumper
I'm also sold on the antenna.. plus the price..
I just got my Radio Master in the mail but I also just bought a Kawasaki Versys 300 X so I have been to distracted to spend any time with this fantastic new TX..
The Versys here in Southern Oregon USA is a blast in this mild summer season..
I will get around to this new TX eventually..
I mostly bought it because I didn't trust the ribbon cables on my Jumper anymore... I had one fail and had to replace it right out of the box.
Glad I got my radiomaster tx16s on preorder, should be shipped in the next couple of days, so looking forward to getting it set up and flying again.
I have a 'love, hate' relationship with my Taranis se I bought just before the release of the new series transmitters last year. Technology moves at such a pace it's sometimes difficult to keep up. Think I'll stick with what I have. Update/upgrade can actually be quite stressful. I don't know how others feel? Good to have a choice though.
Taranis
Can I ask you if having outdated firmware on my Taranis QX7 would cause bind issues on a recently purchased BNF with a frsky XM Plus transmitter..thank you for your advice that you can offer
Great comparison, Lee! Thanks a lot! 😊
Actually, even pinchers liked the thicker part of the TX16S. And the fact that you can buy it from Banggood with the Crossfire mini included is perfect! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I originally wanted one of these, but after watching this video, I've now changed my mind. I fly 2.4 all spektrum. If the multi protocol module is no better than my regular Spektrum dx6 I can't see any benefit apart from more channels and a bigger colour screen. Thanks for the very useful video.
the 80 mW output power is only for the Frsky protocol, the wrecktrum protocol is fine but still under 100mW because of the EU limit
@@Mikeylikesit1968 why do I need more than 6 channels? With mixing I have 6 flight modes with Inav plus one channel for arming and autotune. I've had my Dx6 for 5 years, how many people will still be using either of these radios in 5 years. I wasn't trying to start a spektrum bashing thread, I was merely mentioning that that's the radio I currently have.
@@adamhodge3646 Ail, Elev, Rud, Thr, Flaps, Retracts, SAFE Select - that's 7 already. Unless you never want retracts, or flaps, or whatever else.
@@Mikeylikesit1968 I dont fly quads, just wings etc.
@@kevinmahoney9205 you're right I dont need Flaps/retracts etc. I fly Inav wings. I actually like the idea that I can get a basic radio to do so much, but I was nearly tempted by the radiomaster.
I tend to agree with your summation. Also consider that the R9 performance of the Jumper T18 is limited 300mW whereas the external module can go to 500mW - sort of important if you are going long range. That said, I will wait for a V2 of the Radiomaster because my Jumper T16 hasn't missed a beat (yet) and hopefully Radiomaster will come-up with a better looking face-plate because the TX16S looks like a 4 year olds toy !
Great info as always Lee. Again I’m late to the party as I ordered my radio master yesterday and spotted your video this morning lol 😂 good choice sir !👊🏻
I went with the T18 because the size is what I'm looking for even though I believe the Radio Master is a better product.
Don't think you mentioned it but the Radiomaster also has internal charging, it's a small feature but really nice. Overall the Radiomaster is just a nicer package.
Once the touchcreen is fully implemented, I'd love to see a smaller radio with a large screen, something in-between the T12 and TX16s.
All that was covered in the linked videos. I'd still remove the batteries from the radio to charge. I'm too old school! :)
Interesting take on the power output of the multi-modules. I built one of the original 4in1 modules, around the Atmel processor, a few years back. I’ve since measured the power output on most protocols and it averages 140mW to 160mW. I’ve recently (last few days) acquired a JP-4in1 module for its STM processor and extra memory and have yet to measure the output. I agree with your “park flyer” comment but that’s when using Spektrum... because, you know, Spektrum. If stock ever reaches the UK I think the Radiomaster will be the one for me. Like you I’m not interested in the R9 system as I’m still heavily invested in the EzUHF system.
Nidge.
I compared range on dsm2 with authentic spektrum receiver. Comparing Dx9 vs Irangex lite on on x9 lite I got 120 feet more distance on external module. I fly helicopters so the range exceeds LOS .
To be truthfully. I'm not a fan of either radio so, I'm sticking with my FrSky Taranis X9D Plus SE. The only things if I could change would be a color screen and a roller switch. Thanks for your input excellent as always.
Just moved to digital but this is making me want the T18.
I had to return my TX16 because the left gimbal would not center. Tried calibrating every way possible. Not great quality control! Ordered the T18 now so fingers crossed.
Great comparison and detail info.
I'm new to all the open source radios, I'm a bit old school still but been flying FPV for a while with my DMS2 radios, I bought a Radiolink a year ago because i cant get my old radios to work with my goggles but cant get the headtracking cable to work anymore and they have stopped making the cable I need. Does the Radiomaster support headtrackng??
I am currently using the T16. I have 2 external modules (R9 and CrsF lite).
Dependent on which quad I fly, I need to change the module everytime.
Seeing that the Jumper T18 has R9 in the internal module it would be perfect for me, because then I don't have to swap external modules everytime. Just keep the CrsF module in and I can fly all my quads (R9, Crsf, and frsky from the internal module).
After watching this video I am doubting what to do.
Well, the T18 internal 900mHz is only 300 mW instead 1W on R9 module so its more like R9 Lite. Also some say the protocol isn't genuine Frsky protocol but more like a reverse engineered protocol. And why would you swapping 900 mHz modules? Usually people will choose either R9 or Crossfire but not both :p
I am happy to have chosen the Radiomaster. In the Jumper T18 I don't like that for the 2.4ghz it is limited to the internal antenna with a lower range. But above all and much more serious are the problems of incompatibility with r9. Jumper could have produced something better, Frsky with some updates is making the r9 receivers unusable with this multiprotocol module. Instead the radiomaster tx16s is compatible with all frsky receivers, even those that frsky is making incompatible with its own old models. With the external module the differences are smoothed out, but then why pay more for the Jumper T18 to have a radio whose value is the internal multiprotocol module if it then has these limitations? At this moment I would not even choose Frsky radio controls, its very questionable commercial policy is to make its own old receivers incompatible on its new products. I find this a discourtesy towards those who have spent a lot of money on Frsky products.
Hi, I've been out of the loop for a long time and have no idea what R9 or CRSS is! I fly fixed wing only and I have two radios, one is the Graupner MZ 24 with an excellent colour touch screen and good telemetry and ergonomics. The other radio is a very cheap radioLink AT10, also with colour screen. The sliders are rubbish but the gimbals and switches are pretty good. Quoted range for both radios is 4km although I only fly line of sight. I like the idea of multi protocol, especially as it's possible to use my Graupner receivers and also use Spektrum because there are many tempting models from Horizon Hobby which are ready to fly out of the box but it would seem that multi protocol just doesn't have the range I want? I have 3ms rock solid performance from both of these radios at maximum line of sight, and for my eight foot power glider that's a fair distance away when only just visible, so would you please explain crossfire and why it seems to be an advantage? I think that sometimes, advancements in technology can also be a step backwards, after all, they want you to keep buying the latest gear!
I'm a big fan of 'if you've already got something, you're happy with it, it works well and is legal' then there's no need to change.. Happy flying
Just to be clear here, the Jumper T18 supports r9, but not the 2019 version. Which means the jumper is incompatible with any of the r9 receivers that say "OTA" or "ACCESS" because they run access instead of ACCST. Right?
RM TX16S also for me , thanks for the infos
the internal ant on the t18 is a standard ufl connector.... meaning you can un-plug it then replace with a ufl-sma connector.... meaning you can run say a 5W booster for the 2.4g signal! :-P You are welcome!
Yep, covered in the video ;)
Painless, I have a technical question: You mentioned that you would not use a multi module radio for anything other than park flyer because of the limited power output. However the Jumper module puts out 22dbm which is equal to 158mW verses 100mW output power of the most expensive Futaba radios. Is there something about this that I don’t understand.
Check the bottom of the Jumper or Radiomaster lists..
Thanks Painless, I found the excellent video. I guess I’m lucky that all my 26 fixed wing models use FlySky receivers and in that mode the module puts out approximately 100mW, same a $3,000 Futaba radio. I do realize that the module itself my introduce additional losses but I don’t feel the module is limiting my range significantly if at all. I do ground test all new models and constantly monitor the RSSI. If I were flying FreSky or Futaba receivers I might feel differently. Thanks for your replies and all your excellent videos.
I found the same thing. I love my TX16s
I would purchase the T18 because it is a bigger number. It has to be better!
Best of luck
You miss one important point: customer service.
Seven month ago i had a problem with my jumper and ask for help. No response. And i am not the only one.
On tuesday my Radiomaster arrived and i had a small issue. I wrote radiomaster and six hours later i get a mail with the solution.
We all make mistakes, it depends how you work with this.
There is a reason I make so many videos featuring the RadioMaster.... ;)
Hi great video, but have you done one on performance and build quality? I have one of the original T16's which I upgraded but it is still very poor quality, and have yet to replace the ribbon cables. I turned it on yesterday after a couple of months and got all sorts of errors come up, so thinking about another Open Tx radio, but to be honest dont want the same performance again. I use Spektrum on fixed wing. What are your thoughts on quality ??
The Jumper T16 suffers from a lot of problems. They appear to have been addressed in the RadioMaster radio...
Nice shirt! I got that one when they were here in the States about '91
Nice spot! :D My favourite album by far!
It's always personal preference. I have used a jumper t16 just felt like a cheap plastic radio. I will stick with my Horus. Like the weight and has a quality feel.
The T16 originals quickly showed the quality issues. It's why I stopped making videos about them.. Happy flying
I 100% agree with all of this and I would pick my jumper T16 pro over the T18 because of the internal antenna.
And I bought the jumper because my x9d died switch it on one day nothing happened.
And for me T16 v x9d T16 wins but that's me!!
I'm jealous i ordered the radiomaster 3 times now the first time didn't clear customs in china (bamggood) second time it went out of stock, third time I bought today(aliexpress) lol hope it ships soon
Hello Sir,
Thanks for sharing all Your videos. I really enjoy them and learn a lot.
I've just bought the Jumper T18Pro and more or less regretted it already, due to the build-in PCB 2,4Ghz antenna.
In Your opinion, would You trust this radio bound with a Hitec Optima 9 receiver (tuned properly of course) with a $6.000 plane?
Have a great week-end.
Regards Kim
I've not used the MPM for long enough to trust it to that extent. I'd use a dedicated module in the JR Bay for the receiver you're using and an adjustable antenna. Just my own two cents..
@@Painless360 Thanks a lot for Your reply. Your two cents can suddenly represent a whole other value. Highly appreciated. So is the Jumper and Radiomaster merely for "park flyers" and quads etc.?
@@kimjeppesen2172
Better you should use an Crossfire with Diversity Receiver. .. better then an Old Optima Receiver.... if your Plane 6000$ thats an smart investment
@@Mikeylikesit1968 Thanks Mikey, I'll swap it for a YX16S I think
please do inav and yaapu lua setup. love this radio cant wait for touch screen to come.
Will do, I'm waiting for the OpenTX official version as I'm playing with mine on nightlies and there seems to be an issue with the script crashing.. Stay tuned!
works fine on default opentx
Great! Why not make a video on it and share what you've done? I'd welcome more pilots making 'how to' videos... Best of luck!
Just a note I am a hybrid pincher and I moved from a t16 to a tx16s after seeing the antenna for the t18. Just want to say I was worried about it being thicker but it feels the same if not better than the t16 and I have fairly small hands (x9d is to larger for me to)
Question... Did Jumper upgrade the scroll wheel to metal or is it still the flimsy plastic. And which radio has better quality switches that is nothing going to break after the first season of flying..
I've fondly had this one unit but have had mesaages from others who've received the production units with the poor feel roller...
But does it replace the Taranis? I think that is the key question for most that are in the market for a new transmitter. Great video!!
As I've covered in the other videos - when my Taranis finally gives up. The Tx16s is the one I'll move too..
Painless360 thanks painless! Great steer. Really enjoy the videos
Thank you again!
🥃 cheers 🍻
T18 seems like it was rushed to market 😒IMO
Hi, do you pinch? How do you like the feel of the Radiomaster vs. X9D?
I'm a thumber (as mentioned in the video). So the thicker more contoured feel is good for me..
@@Painless360 Ah ... sorry ... I skipped through so many videos and could not keep track who flies how. For a thumber there is probably no significant draw backs on the Radiomaster. Battery life, use a 2S 5000 mAh, sliders who needs those, frsky access, well we all end up using crossfire anyway.
Thing is I have the X7 and the ergonomic is not right for my palm.
Anyone know if the removable upper panel on the Jumper T16 fits the Tx16s? I want to keep the removable antenna if I were to switch to a tx16s. No charging on the t18 means no go for me.
Hi..does t16s and t18 feel like Taranis QX7 when it is in your hand when flying?
Not very similar. Mote like the x10s really...
Radiomaster for 100% sure
Hello Lee, witch one has the better gimbals?
Both are very similar. It used to be that hall effect gimbals were shorthand for the best quality. I'd be happy with either... No real choice either way for me.
I’ve not set up my T18 pro bc I’m letting these reviews get to me. But I should just go with my gut and stick with it. Especially if the hype for jumper is going away. I rocked FRsky for this long with all their drama. I think I’m going to give Jumper the upper hand and let them develop this radio and I’ll tag along for the ride. I’m mostly CRSF anyway. F it
Bro. did you have the T18 pro? How’s the Alps RDC90 Gimbals?
So can these both work with horizon bnf airplanes ?? Which one should I get I can't decide on one lol
Yes they can. Answer to your other question is in the video.. Happy flying
@@Painless360 thank you just don't know what version to get of the radiomaster tx16s would I need the one with the 4 in 1 module one . I have seen alot of different prices on that radio so it's a little confusing
See my later videos on this radio where I cover that.. Best of luck!
So what's the output of 900mhz of the internal R9. If it's only whimsical then there is not point
PlaneCrazy , 300mw, enough for some, unless you want to go real long distance.
Better than my tanaris X9D Plus Se 2019?
If you want to fly other things apart from FrSky and want full speed Crossfire - yes.
Painless360 i fly crossfire with CRSF shot firmware in my Taranis this is better of this?
@@mcferran6720 yes dude, your radio is overpriced and lacking numerous features of the Radiomaster. Is that what you needed to hear? It's not hard for a product to be "better" when it's 40 dollars cheaper than the Taranis with way more features and a beautiful screen.
so its not 100mw? thats a deal breaker, also i thought the tx16s and the non r9 jumper had two antenna one inside and one outside
It depends on the protocol (FrSky and Futaba are 80mW). See the video on it in the playlist...
Very good.
Izquierdron🤟😛😱🤣
My T18 Pro came with a terrible hiss that is louder than the wav audio.
The volume by default is turned all the way up. Reducing it helps with that hiss...Happy flying
@@Painless360 I wish that were the case for me.
Hi there!! Anyone knows or tried to bind a futaba FASST receiver to the radiomaster?? Thanks!!!
FASST is not supported by multi modules. Futaba FHSS is supported.
@@zmanphx Yeah thanks man! Just found the list after that! Bought a X8R for my heli 😁
@@workshopbeastsfpv413 , Nice thing about multi modules, I can keep my DSMX, Futaba SFHSS receivers for use in my helis. I actually got slightly better range on DSMX protocol on multi module vs Spektrum DX9 when I ranged tested.
I cancelled my T18 Pro when the reviews came out. I fly a ton of 2.4 so will get the Radiomaster plus a Crossfire module (for just 2 quads). I only have one concern: 1:28 - I'm looking for a radio to replace my DX9 and X9 Lite so I only need charge and take one radio to the field. I fly planes, gliders, quads ... everything ... and am now concerned whether the MPM will have enough oomph. Perhaps I should be retaining the DX9 for flying a small handful of expensive balsa aircraft ... What about diversity - 2 TX aerials to improve the reliability of the connection - guess that has to be out of the window as well ...
This statement also got me wondering now if I can use my multi protocall module with a futaba reciever in one of my nicer balsa planes, maybe someone can tell us whats the way to go if you want one radio to rule them all, aka park flyer and 1/4 scale plane flying.
At 1:09: “I’d not use the multiprotocol module for anything but park flying”. - Doesn’t this damn both TX’s to the bin?
Nope, a complete new radio takes time to gain my trust... I has it now after a few months of use.
@@Painless360 Thanks for the clarification...
the DJI one
Jumper keeps messing up radios. The T16 was kinda a miss - charging, battery bay, ribbon cables. The T18 is also kinda a miss - still no charging solution the battery bay is too small, the gimbals are meh, the 5in1 module isn't quite sorted out, no touchscreen... the list goes on.
Neither for me, both flawed :(
Wouldn't it be great if FrSky just came out with a radio with the features that pilots want? Then there would be very little space for these radios..
@@Painless360 history would repeat itself, x9d Taranis was a bar set at a great height!
If only....... Sigh.
@@Painless360 exactly! I asked FrSky several times during two years for a taranis like model with color screen, premium parts (for say 100 euro more) and full speed crossfire support....still not sure why they don't produce something like that and let this gap in the market open for jumper/radiomaster to jump in. Still love my 7 years old taranis (first model) though!
The answer is simple no one of these just buy T16 Pro Hall V2
Rule of thumb applies to cars and electronic s. Never buy first generation or first release.