It's pretty cool seeing the current state of controls users are now getting on Windows. In some way's its even more control than what you get on the Steam Deck. Great job Aya and a big thanks to the handheld gaming community.
The AyaNeo 2 is the premium version of the Geek. You can tell by the pricing. The 1200p base AyaNeo 2 is $1,000 and the 1200p base Geek is $1,000. So clearly you can see the savings of the more budget model. This AyaNeo pricing structure really makes sense.
I don't know if your being sarcastic or just made a mistake but the base 1200p geek comes with 1tb of storage at $999, while the cheapest 1200p model of the 2 comes with only 512gb of storage at $999
(14:30 This really explains my recent findings, where I claimed that the AN2 performs worse (in Doom 2016) than the Steam Deck with Smart TDP enabled. Reddit people called me a liar - but it's great to see that I'm not crazy after all.) SmartTDP and SmartFan have been worthy additions to the roster, but there's still a long road ahead. That being said, the by far biggest issue I have with the AyaNeo ecosystem or AyaSpace in general, is the same issue you mentioned: Not being able to set their custom buttons to whatever I want to. Their "Steam" button is simply a shortcut to the Steam-application itself, and the "Xbox"-button is Windows+G rather than an emulated Xbox button. Therefor you're completely lost in terms of Big Picture Mode or Steam in-game usability.
I set my refresh rate to 46hz and set my SmartTDP to 40FPS and I just put the max TDP at 33watts. It never gets to 33 watts of course, but everything works awesome and I don't see any screen tearing at all. Hopefully someone can figure out the timings needed for a 40hz refresh rate soon, but I'm fine with this for now. Runs buttery smooth and I get better battery life. I'm really loving my Ayaneo 2 B.Duck so far, not a single issue and I'm adapting to Windows pretty well from being so used to using SteamOS for the last year.
@@toddtiemann4613 if you join the Discord channel it's posted in the chat. But here it is: Horizontal: 1200, 64, 24, 32, 120, 1320, + Vertical: 1920, 60, 8, 32, 100, 2020, + Frequency: 45.754hz
Not going to lie, the price for me is wild on the ayaneo. $1132 Canadian. That's way too much for myself personally, but it is a really nice looking handheld.
Hi ThePhawx. I have been looking around for reviews of the 6800u where they benchmark 16gb vs 32gb memory. As the cpu and you share memory it would be nice to know if any titles today will run in to issues. I myself have had issues on the steam deck with on 16gb. But only in one game “New World” it would crash every time I teleported to a town. The fix was to increase the page file. If you have already answered this in a video I would love to know which one. Kind regards
Any reason, other than saving battery, why you didn't up the TDP to the Neo 2/Geek's max of 33w? Your review made it sound like it was limited to 22w not 33w.
@watchmejumpstart the comment was about software. So it's relevant. The software will be the same on the neo 2 and the geek. Doesn't matter how many devices there are especially if some of them share the same internals. Its windows PC, not really sure why people are even commenting about the software or how have devices a company makes like it's a negative
Any alternative to Smart TDP ? On my side, it didn’t convince me for some games : on Forza 5, if game requires more TDP to keep same framerate on more consuming scene, it’s taking too much time to reach again the same fps level…you will feel lag during this time, fixed TDP give you a more fixed framerate. I also recommand you to fix the screen refresh rate to 46Hz to keep smooth effect. By the way, you can modify easily the target fps to 46 instead of 45 in smart TDP file (in appdata folder of your user profile) or simply change fixed value in RTSS.
Just a curious question but for temperature wise with these handhelds what are safe ranges to look out for if I were to use fan control? New to this and would love to learn more as I go!
As an owner of the 5800u Onex mini, I'm so torn on my upgrade path, I love the size of the mini so the mini pro feels like an easy upgrade, but the thumbsticks leave a lot to be desired, the win 4 is 90% exactly what I want, but I want the size of the mini, Aya has better thumbsticks and bigger size but I really do not like the design, which I know is small but it bothers me in my choice on an almost 2k device (Australian dollar) however I absolutely love the Aya space app and wish the competition had a similar setup MMMMMMMM WHICH TO CHOOSE
@@Mantenner some of us want that 6800u so we can push graphics and such more, plus as he mentioned he likes a more compact sleek look/design and on top decks screen quality is much worse, but i get it if price is a major factor for someone then yes for 400 the deck is definitely the go to
@@melxb I would say that portably the deck has a really great power to battery life ratio, and most 6800u devices get the same performance for the same battery life, but as you say if you're willing to crank the TDP or if you prefer docked play to be more performant, the 6800u is the go. I have to say the docked performance of the deck is a bit disappointing to me, definitely needs more power to push higher resolutions.
Do new buyers NEED a wired mouse and keyboard to set up these devices? Would a 2.4Ghz non-bluetooth be sufficient? Can you do it all through touch? Thank you for your in depth review!
I'm not sure what you mean by set up. Windows & Aya space are already installed. It's like any windows pc for adding apps, your customization. There is an on screen keyboard (if you've used windows it is in all windows) and stick mouse or touch, afaik. You can touch, but even the gpd win 4 keyboard and nub pad is easier to use. I think you'll need a USB hub/dock, just to have enough ports, to use your wireless or wired peripherals, but you can use them, too.
What you'll find sufficient will depend on your preferences and what games you already play. You're not going to have lag using the game pad. Whether you find touch keyboard & touch or stick mouse sufficient it's up to you. You're going to give up screen real estate and it isn't as fast as kbm. If you don't mind wireless on a pc now , then you won't mind using it here. If you find wired necessary latency wise, then this isn't going to behave better, than you might already be familiar with.
autotdp problem: you need to activate ever the no limit cpu, for that the game down the fps. I have this problem playing ps2 in the neo 2, and after to set the autotdp and the no limit cpu, the program work correctly.
I like to think Aya watched your prior video and that's how they got the idea for the smart TDP. As far as cpu control goes, ide like to hope valve can do it with the steam deck. I bet they could make a great "auto tdp" feture.
Can you use the new Aya software on other handhelds to use the Auto TDP feature? Like on the Win4, I know there's a separate auto tdp app but it's a bit more complicated to set up
I am a bit confused about steam deck vs Ayaneo geek any suggestions for the budget wouldn't be a problem I save something for my handle device all I want is the right device.
If media and productivity are higher priority than gaming, get a laptop and whatever additional peripherals to game with. There's not a contest. There is that GPD ultra book with the game pad, if regular Laptops are too big for you. The one media exception, is listening without headphones. Steam Deck speakers appear to put many laptops to shame, but that is useful in private, not public. I would be curious for someone to compare, which handheld can drive the best headphones. For movies, TV look for the best 1080p/1200p screen on handheld. I haven't seen them in person, but the quality Aya IPS, look good in these video reviews. 800p will be better for the gaming, especially if you play more demanding titles. 720/800p will not look as good on a 1080/1200 screen. Most people don't really care or notice unless side by side, though. If you're going to do more gaming, just take the hit on film viewing. If your media collection contains many lower resolution, then 720p,800p is fine for older film, too. Especially, if you have a lot of old 360-480p stuff. Even an OLED tablet is going to be a better viewing experience, if you prioritize watching film, movies. The battery life is worth not going above 1080p, 1200p. I say this as a crazy person with a 6.5" 4k phone. I can see the difference and a 4k 21:9 movie is chef's kiss. I can see the difference and most content isn't 4k, so things aren't a sharp as they spoke be. 4k buffers streaming and it's better to match the resolution you'll be working or playing in the most, if you're a picky viewer. The upscaling is really good, but I'd rather have the battery life. I used to read books on my psp (I'd convert them into text over background pictures), but I actually want an eink device or than a gaming pc, as far as reading goes, but live with my phone. Productivity side, you'll want to think about whether you're going to be more demanding on the cpu & RAM to make sure to get what you need. You're going to pay a premium getting it in handheld pc form factor vs laptop.
ignore all recommendations and just go by this: 1. buy handheld you like 2. attach to it Nreal Air 3. Enjoy Simple and easy, no laptop or whatever can beat this setup.
OneXPlayer 2 has an 8.4" 1600p display. It has very good downfiring speakers (not muffled by your hands) and the biggest battery of all the handhelds. The 'controller' parts can be slid of similarly to joycons on the switch allowing you to attach the optional keyboard and not look like too much of a gamerboy in the airport lounge.
Whilst these are nice, the high price and knowledge that within months (or even weeks) something better will have come along. The sheer pace of technology might potentially mean increasingly lower uptake of such devices.
Is there any chance that these little 6800U powered systems allow any voltage tuning with PBO? Was wondering if it might be possible to throw a little bit of an undervolt at these to get either a little bit more power savings by using a slightly lower TDP, or a little bit more performance at the same TDP, depending on what exactly I am needing on a per title basis.
@Pythagoras Except that the Steam Deck doesn't use a 6800U in it, so just because you can undervolt that doesn't mean that you could undervolt any of these newer 6800U devices that are coming out. That said, I will see if I can find the video that you are talking about as it may show the results of what I am looking for, or at least some representation of it.
They need to stop sending you reviewers the 1200p model and send one of you the 800p model. IMO, the 800p model is the one you want, as the performance increase will be *significant*
They are very different IMO. For me the choice was easy. I wanted something as compact as possible and that has an integrated keyboard. So Win 4. Plus it has a landscape display and that sweet PSP/Vita design. YMMV.
GPD already got one that auto-maintains the TPD at a certain level to optimize battery life but it's not so easy as to just hold down 1 button to set up
Win 4 all the way for me. But I want a small device with integrated keyboard. If you don’t care about portability or PC versatility then ANG is fine and gets you a bigger screen and better analog sticks.
I don't like that no reviewer got the 800p version. Definitely not their fault but Aya's. They don't want people testing the 800p screen and I find that sus cause a lot of people would buy that model considering the price difference.
@@crashdude7589 naw people literally come to these videos to comment about the steam deck. If you love your steam deck so much, then why are you watching videos about other handhelds... Makes no sense. I don't know why these are even compared to the steam deck when they are way more capable. It's like comparing a Xbox series s to the Xbox series x
Same performance, better thermals, more ergonomic. Downside is, it's bigger, no built in keyboard(if that's your thing), doesn't look like a psp(if that's your thing), extra button placement is better imo(back is more convenient that the top, not as much an issue for people with larger hands.)
they will sell, but thats why these are niche, priced too high for mainstream. anyone who wants a handheld gaming pc will get a steam deck, or burn money on one of these not understanding the steam deck is the best value in gaming
Can’t really, they only make money from selling the hardware itself and don’t make anything like a percentage cut from software sales like valve does with the steam deck It’s just like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft Their consoles would at least double in price if they only sold the devices but let another company make and run the game store
@@bryanmiller476 Phones are 2-3 years and updates for five. Laptops and pcs are 5 years and updated for 10+ Neo is one every six months and updates whenever for as long as whatever..
Meh, the controls and software are just so far ahead on steam deck. It’s not even close. Maybe once the 7800u and steam os come to gpd and aya, they will be a lot more competitive.
@@mrsittingmongoose That sounds like a Steam deck fanboy comment. At the bare minimum at about $100-$200 you can play just about everything out of the box with no issue. Better screen, better internals, better analogs. Sounds like a good deal to me. The newest dead space stuff like that out of the box without waiting on Valve's tweaks. As far as controls go I'd say the Aya Neo is better at best similar at worst. The only big difference is the track pads which let's be real most people don't use. Their nice to have but not really a definitive difference.
@@businesstron The trackpads allow you to play whole genres of games you can’t otherwise play. For example rts games. You can also use them as many buttons for games that require a lot of inputs like WoW. You say you need to wait for optimizations by valve, well in the past that has only happened to 2-3 games and it took a couples days at most to happen. In fact they usually offer better solutions than the developer, for example no shader stuttering. The software makes a big difference…that is not the opinion of a fanboy, that is fact.
@@ultimategohan1551 Final payment does not include taxes and duty fees. Windows is garbage on a handheld device where you are squeezing as much power as you can, it is a resource hog. Order a Geek, be like the less than 3000 other funders of their "development program" that have a device with wifi card failures, ssd failures, ssds not matching what was advertised, screen cracks, and heating issues. Ill throw my Tiamat msi ge76 into my backpack before ill touch these every 6 months oversized phones with a controller crap, enjoy the reliability of companies that are backed by international consumer laws, and a device that didn't cost 1/10th the price of my laptop.
I'm aware of the sound being off in the beginning and end. Middle parts should all be good. Working on it
Sound is good enough for me! Don’t worry about it
is it comfortable for big hands?
@@ShanGamer1981 I have big hands and I find it just as comfortable to hold as the Steam Deck, which is also great for big hands.
It's pretty cool seeing the current state of controls users are now getting on Windows. In some way's its even more control than what you get on the Steam Deck. Great job Aya and a big thanks to the handheld gaming community.
The AyaNeo 2 is the premium version of the Geek. You can tell by the pricing. The 1200p base AyaNeo 2 is $1,000 and the 1200p base Geek is $1,000. So clearly you can see the savings of the more budget model. This AyaNeo pricing structure really makes sense.
I don't know if your being sarcastic or just made a mistake but the base 1200p geek comes with 1tb of storage at $999, while the cheapest 1200p model of the 2 comes with only 512gb of storage at $999
@@colegillgrass3373 Yes! You are so right. That's what I'm saying. You can really tell the premium vs the budget model. This pricing is so good.
I just came here to comment on that beautiful thumbnail to video transition! Super clean! Not a bad device as well 😁
Yeah, I was like WTF
Thanks! :)
This might be the handheld I get but then again I am considering others. I do love this design for their handhelds
I was looking forward to your other review for this series! Thank you!
(14:30 This really explains my recent findings, where I claimed that the AN2 performs worse (in Doom 2016) than the Steam Deck with Smart TDP enabled. Reddit people called me a liar - but it's great to see that I'm not crazy after all.) SmartTDP and SmartFan have been worthy additions to the roster, but there's still a long road ahead. That being said, the by far biggest issue I have with the AyaNeo ecosystem or AyaSpace in general, is the same issue you mentioned: Not being able to set their custom buttons to whatever I want to. Their "Steam" button is simply a shortcut to the Steam-application itself, and the "Xbox"-button is Windows+G rather than an emulated Xbox button. Therefor you're completely lost in terms of Big Picture Mode or Steam in-game usability.
What are supposed to do with this info
@@mackw919 Mind elaborating on whatever you're asking here?
Heyyy, I gotta say the thumbnail move is cool :)
I set my refresh rate to 46hz and set my SmartTDP to 40FPS and I just put the max TDP at 33watts. It never gets to 33 watts of course, but everything works awesome and I don't see any screen tearing at all. Hopefully someone can figure out the timings needed for a 40hz refresh rate soon, but I'm fine with this for now. Runs buttery smooth and I get better battery life.
I'm really loving my Ayaneo 2 B.Duck so far, not a single issue and I'm adapting to Windows pretty well from being so used to using SteamOS for the last year.
Do you have your 46hz settings? I've been messing around with CRU but haven't been able to get anything to work.
@@toddtiemann4613 if you join the Discord channel it's posted in the chat. But here it is:
Horizontal: 1200, 64, 24, 32, 120, 1320, +
Vertical: 1920, 60, 8, 32, 100, 2020, +
Frequency: 45.754hz
@@bnr32jason I'm in the channel, but probably wasn't looking hard enough. Thanks!
Definitely need to get me one of these!
Question, why didn't you set the TDP to 28W or 30W so Auto TDP could go past 22W?
Waiting for the multipurpose Ryzen 7000U series.
8TF on handhelds would be great
Will steam OS work on this? I would love to see a video of this in action.
Not going to lie, the price for me is wild on the ayaneo. $1132 Canadian.
That's way too much for myself personally, but it is a really nice looking handheld.
Can you show us how to fix the native vertical screen issues with older games? I can't find a good fix on the internet.
Hi ThePhawx. I have been looking around for reviews of the 6800u where they benchmark 16gb vs 32gb memory. As the cpu and you share memory it would be nice to know if any titles today will run in to issues. I myself have had issues on the steam deck with on 16gb. But only in one game “New World” it would crash every time I teleported to a town. The fix was to increase the page file. If you have already answered this in a video I would love to know which one. Kind regards
Any reason, other than saving battery, why you didn't up the TDP to the Neo 2/Geek's max of 33w? Your review made it sound like it was limited to 22w not 33w.
must be a nightmare to maintain the software of all these different versions ayaneo constantly puts out
There is only 4 of em, Ayaneo air, 2021, Ayaneo next and Ayaneo 2/geek.
@watchmejumpstart the geek and 2 have the same internals.
They should just talk to valve and adapt Steamos. Valve would do that without hesitation
nah 2021 was the first, so 5
@watchmejumpstart the comment was about software. So it's relevant. The software will be the same on the neo 2 and the geek. Doesn't matter how many devices there are especially if some of them share the same internals. Its windows PC, not really sure why people are even commenting about the software or how have devices a company makes like it's a negative
It look like it will work like a dream for GamePass Ultimate
I just order mine, thx for such a good review 🙃
Any alternative to Smart TDP ?
On my side, it didn’t convince me for some games : on Forza 5, if game requires more TDP to keep same framerate on more consuming scene, it’s taking too much time to reach again the same fps level…you will feel lag during this time, fixed TDP give you a more fixed framerate.
I also recommand you to fix the screen refresh rate to 46Hz to keep smooth effect. By the way, you can modify easily the target fps to 46 instead of 45 in smart TDP file (in appdata folder of your user profile) or simply change fixed value in RTSS.
I've tested 10 or so games now with SmartTDP and every single one has run better than with a static TDP set.
how do you set frame rate to 46?
@@V3gaz0502 in windows, you have to use CRU to create a new custom resolution
Just a curious question but for temperature wise with these handhelds what are safe ranges to look out for if I were to use fan control? New to this and would love to learn more as I go!
Great job thank you so much keep up the great work
Does this ayaone geek or 2 offer identical performance to the aokzoe a1? Same chip 6800u
Could you please do another video about the smart tdp
As an owner of the 5800u Onex mini, I'm so torn on my upgrade path, I love the size of the mini so the mini pro feels like an easy upgrade, but the thumbsticks leave a lot to be desired, the win 4 is 90% exactly what I want, but I want the size of the mini, Aya has better thumbsticks and bigger size but I really do not like the design, which I know is small but it bothers me in my choice on an almost 2k device (Australian dollar) however I absolutely love the Aya space app and wish the competition had a similar setup
MMMMMMMM WHICH TO CHOOSE
The Deck is always the Answer. Also an Australian that has absolutely loved owning it.
yeah it's hard to choose I also like the onexplayer mini pro, then the gpd win 4 and aya neo 2
@@Mantenner some of us want that 6800u so we can push graphics and such more, plus as he mentioned he likes a more compact sleek look/design and on top decks screen quality is much worse, but i get it if price is a major factor for someone then yes for 400 the deck is definitely the go to
@@melxb I would say that portably the deck has a really great power to battery life ratio, and most 6800u devices get the same performance for the same battery life, but as you say if you're willing to crank the TDP or if you prefer docked play to be more performant, the 6800u is the go. I have to say the docked performance of the deck is a bit disappointing to me, definitely needs more power to push higher resolutions.
@@Mantenner yep i play my handhelds home wired laid back in bed or the couch anyways like 95% of the time so battery isn't a focus of mine
Do new buyers NEED a wired mouse and keyboard to set up these devices? Would a 2.4Ghz non-bluetooth be sufficient? Can you do it all through touch? Thank you for your in depth review!
I'm not sure what you mean by set up. Windows & Aya space are already installed. It's like any windows pc for adding apps, your customization. There is an on screen keyboard (if you've used windows it is in all windows) and stick mouse or touch, afaik. You can touch, but even the gpd win 4 keyboard and nub pad is easier to use.
I think you'll need a USB hub/dock, just to have enough ports, to use your wireless or wired peripherals, but you can use them, too.
What you'll find sufficient will depend on your preferences and what games you already play. You're not going to have lag using the game pad. Whether you find touch keyboard & touch or stick mouse sufficient it's up to you. You're going to give up screen real estate and it isn't as fast as kbm. If you don't mind wireless on a pc now , then you won't mind using it here. If you find wired necessary latency wise, then this isn't going to behave better, than you might already be familiar with.
autotdp problem: you need to activate ever the no limit cpu, for that the game down the fps. I have this problem playing ps2 in the neo 2, and after to set the autotdp and the no limit cpu, the program work correctly.
Bcs emulation depends on cpu power
@@henndyyy_tskr the same problem happen with guilty Gear Strive.
Autotdp is a Nice option, but have a lot of problems.
I like to think Aya watched your prior video and that's how they got the idea for the smart TDP.
As far as cpu control goes, ide like to hope valve can do it with the steam deck. I bet they could make a great "auto tdp" feture.
So which one do you prefer the most? The Win GPD 4 or this one model?
same question that and also the onexplayer mini pro is also a great looking compact 6800u device, hard to choose indeed
Is the new geek 1s have a native landscape screen ?
Whats the chance of there being a ryzen 6800u based handheld in the $300-$500 range anytime soon?
same as a steam deck 2 being announced tomorrow
@@Bidwellz9 2/5/2023 Steam Deck 2 announced! Sweet!!!
Can you use the new Aya software on other handhelds to use the Auto TDP feature? Like on the Win4, I know there's a separate auto tdp app but it's a bit more complicated to set up
i love how people say its so portable but in the next breath talk about hooking it up to a 15 inch screen with a dock and an egpu and etc etc lol
I am a bit confused about steam deck vs Ayaneo geek any suggestions for the budget wouldn't be a problem I save something for my handle device all I want is the right device.
Hows does the Ayaneo 2/geek compare to the GDP Win4?
Nice vid as always, but plz i need an answer to this. Can i use the smart tdp and smart fan with windows installed on steam deck?
So I'm getting 45FPS on Steam Deck Days Gone at 800p. You would think the 6800U would be an upgrade.
What are your handheld/umpc recommendations for media consumption, and light productivity?
This!!! I've been watching these videos to see if someone would mention it. I'd watch movies on it as well whenever I travel
If media and productivity are higher priority than gaming, get a laptop and whatever additional peripherals to game with. There's not a contest. There is that GPD ultra book with the game pad, if regular Laptops are too big for you.
The one media exception, is listening without headphones. Steam Deck speakers appear to put many laptops to shame, but that is useful in private, not public. I would be curious for someone to compare, which handheld can drive the best headphones.
For movies, TV look for the best 1080p/1200p screen on handheld. I haven't seen them in person, but the quality Aya IPS, look good in these video reviews.
800p will be better for the gaming, especially if you play more demanding titles. 720/800p will not look as good on a 1080/1200 screen. Most people don't really care or notice unless side by side, though. If you're going to do more gaming, just take the hit on film viewing. If your media collection contains many lower resolution, then 720p,800p is fine for older film, too. Especially, if you have a lot of old 360-480p stuff.
Even an OLED tablet is going to be a better viewing experience, if you prioritize watching film, movies.
The battery life is worth not going above 1080p, 1200p. I say this as a crazy person with a 6.5" 4k phone. I can see the difference and a 4k 21:9 movie is chef's kiss. I can see the difference and most content isn't 4k, so things aren't a sharp as they spoke be. 4k buffers streaming and it's better to match the resolution you'll be working or playing in the most, if you're a picky viewer. The upscaling is really good, but I'd rather have the battery life.
I used to read books on my psp (I'd convert them into text over background pictures), but I actually want an eink device or than a gaming pc, as far as reading goes, but live with my phone.
Productivity side, you'll want to think about whether you're going to be more demanding on the cpu & RAM to make sure to get what you need. You're going to pay a premium getting it in handheld pc form factor vs laptop.
ignore all recommendations and just go by this:
1. buy handheld you like
2. attach to it Nreal Air
3. Enjoy
Simple and easy, no laptop or whatever can beat this setup.
OneXPlayer 2 has an 8.4" 1600p display. It has very good downfiring speakers (not muffled by your hands) and the biggest battery of all the handhelds. The 'controller' parts can be slid of similarly to joycons on the switch allowing you to attach the optional keyboard and not look like too much of a gamerboy in the airport lounge.
Whilst these are nice, the high price and knowledge that within months (or even weeks) something better will have come along. The sheer pace of technology might potentially mean increasingly lower uptake of such devices.
Is there any chance that these little 6800U powered systems allow any voltage tuning with PBO? Was wondering if it might be possible to throw a little bit of an undervolt at these to get either a little bit more power savings by using a slightly lower TDP, or a little bit more performance at the same TDP, depending on what exactly I am needing on a per title basis.
@Pythagoras Except that the Steam Deck doesn't use a 6800U in it, so just because you can undervolt that doesn't mean that you could undervolt any of these newer 6800U devices that are coming out.
That said, I will see if I can find the video that you are talking about as it may show the results of what I am looking for, or at least some representation of it.
@Pythagoras the steam deck is built from the ground up to work with the OS, also the steam deck uses a chip designed for the steam deck.
If only I could afford it
They need to stop sending you reviewers the 1200p model and send one of you the 800p model. IMO, the 800p model is the one you want, as the performance increase will be *significant*
You could also just hard cap the resolution in windows to 800p. Difference being the 1200p panel will still look considerably better.
I may sound petty but after having the back buttons on my deck I wouldn't ever get a handheld without them
Why are you here go watch a steam deck review
@@mackw919 this might be the stupidest thing I've ever read
Don’t even use them on my steam deck
Can’t think of a reason
Looks really good and at a good price to compete against the Win 4... Which leads to the question, this or Win 4 ?
They are very different IMO. For me the choice was easy. I wanted something as compact as possible and that has an integrated keyboard. So Win 4. Plus it has a landscape display and that sweet PSP/Vita design. YMMV.
@@tappersreviews4677 onexplayer mini pro is also great compact 6800u, what do u think about it vs the gpd win 4
@@tappersreviews4677 Same, I bought the win 4 too, they hit me right in the nostalgia, and the convinience of the keyboard is a plus.
I watching this in My Aya Neo 2
How can I play mw2 without it lagging or stuttering
AYA's software support is brilliant. take note GPD
GPD already got one that auto-maintains the TPD at a certain level to optimize battery life but it's not so easy as to just hold down 1 button to set up
@@kevj.3575 yeah aya seems to focus a lot on it looking good and being easy, before actually focusing on fixing the bugs.
This or gpd win 4? What you guys think?
Win 4 all the way for me. But I want a small device with integrated keyboard. If you don’t care about portability or PC versatility then ANG is fine and gets you a bigger screen and better analog sticks.
I don't like that no reviewer got the 800p version. Definitely not their fault but Aya's. They don't want people testing the 800p screen and I find that sus cause a lot of people would buy that model considering the price difference.
I would rather just have Steam Deck & put the difference of money into my software. Thank you
Pass 🦅
This is not a Steam Deck review most people are interested in ayaneo 2 that's why we're here
Why are you here then?
@@mackw919 never thought id agree with you on anything... ill be damned :D
@@rawdiggitydog to watch the review to see if the ayaneo 2/geek is personally worth it over the steam deck
@@crashdude7589 naw people literally come to these videos to comment about the steam deck. If you love your steam deck so much, then why are you watching videos about other handhelds... Makes no sense. I don't know why these are even compared to the steam deck when they are way more capable. It's like comparing a Xbox series s to the Xbox series x
Is this better than the GPD Win 4?
Same performance, better thermals, more ergonomic.
Downside is, it's bigger, no built in keyboard(if that's your thing), doesn't look like a psp(if that's your thing), extra button placement is better imo(back is more convenient that the top, not as much an issue for people with larger hands.)
@@colegillgrass3373 Thank you for taking the time to reply. I am still not sure which one I should pick up
These people need to start thinking of how to cut their prices in half otherwise these won't sell
they will sell, but thats why these are niche, priced too high for mainstream. anyone who wants a handheld gaming pc will get a steam deck, or burn money on one of these not understanding the steam deck is the best value in gaming
Can’t really, they only make money from selling the hardware itself and don’t make anything like a percentage cut from software sales like valve does with the steam deck
It’s just like Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft
Their consoles would at least double in price if they only sold the devices but let another company make and run the game store
Why a 1200p screen? wast of pixels. I'm kinda sickened that they are going higher than 800p.
Man I really hate the design of Aya’s new devices. The original IGG model was so cool…
AYA STOP WITH THE CRINGEY LIGHTS AT LEAST
Great thing! But: still too expensive. Yeah yeah it’s worth it and it’s a reasonable market price and stuff.
Yet.
It’s too expensive.
yes...i care about those 4 seconds lol jkjk had to be that one guy
Geese like watching Phawx
Wait a few months and there will be a new new one lol
Same with any computer or phone
@@bryanmiller476 Phones are 2-3 years and updates for five.
Laptops and pcs are 5 years and updated for 10+
Neo is one every six months and updates whenever for as long as whatever..
My ears :'c
OH MAN GABE AND STEADECK ARE IN TROUBLE NOW.....
Meh, the controls and software are just so far ahead on steam deck. It’s not even close.
Maybe once the 7800u and steam os come to gpd and aya, they will be a lot more competitive.
As much as I like competition, steam deck comes in almost _half_ the price
@@mrsittingmongoose is there a suspend feature in this device? like the quick resume in steam deck?
@@mrsittingmongoose That sounds like a Steam deck fanboy comment. At the bare minimum at about $100-$200 you can play just about everything out of the box with no issue. Better screen, better internals, better analogs. Sounds like a good deal to me. The newest dead space stuff like that out of the box without waiting on Valve's tweaks. As far as controls go I'd say the Aya Neo is better at best similar at worst. The only big difference is the track pads which let's be real most people don't use. Their nice to have but not really a definitive difference.
@@businesstron The trackpads allow you to play whole genres of games you can’t otherwise play. For example rts games. You can also use them as many buttons for games that require a lot of inputs like WoW.
You say you need to wait for optimizations by valve, well in the past that has only happened to 2-3 games and it took a couples days at most to happen. In fact they usually offer better solutions than the developer, for example no shader stuttering.
The software makes a big difference…that is not the opinion of a fanboy, that is fact.
Why would they call it that? So cringeworthy.
£350 vs £1000 steamdeck wins
$650 for 512gb deck vs $850 for 512gb geek. Geek wins, smaller, more powerful, larger battery, windows is better for gaming.
someone bought a steam deck and trying to make himself feel better about it lol
@@ultimategohan1551 Final payment does not include taxes and duty fees.
Windows is garbage on a handheld device where you are squeezing as much power as you can, it is a resource hog.
Order a Geek, be like the less than 3000 other funders of their "development program" that have a device with wifi card failures, ssd failures, ssds not
matching what was advertised, screen cracks, and heating issues.
Ill throw my Tiamat msi ge76 into my backpack before ill touch these every 6 months oversized phones with a controller crap, enjoy the reliability of companies that are backed by international consumer laws, and a device that didn't cost 1/10th the price of my laptop.