Death n' Roll, Black n' Roll, and Entombedcore Explained

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
  • What are Death n' Roll, Black n' Roll, and Entombedcore? Three versions of Extreme Metal blended with Hard Rock. Here I shall showcase some bands that best exemplify these styles.

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  • @whatsinameme5258
    @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Before I list the songs, two things to note. I am aware I am still having audio issues. I did a number of things to remedy this, and nothing has really helped. I will try to fix this soon, but considering I am two months late returning from my hiatus, I just wanted to put out another video. Audio be damned. The other thing is much less important, but might as well mention. The bands Birds of Prey and Forgotten Tomb are arguably influenced by Southern Metal as well. Without further delay here are the songs. Wolverine Blues and Left Hand Path by Entombed. The Glorious Dead and I Walk My Way by Gorefest. Skinned Alive and Massive Killing Capacity by Dismember. Dead Forever and Joy in the Sun by Unleashed. Keep on Rotting in the Free World by Carcass. Moonshield by In Flames. As I Slither by Kataklysm. TNT (ACDC Cover) by Six Feet Under. Tempt the Disciples by Birds of Prey. Dead Men Tell No Tales by Motorhead. Black Metal by Venom. Black Rock n' Roll by Midnight. Now Diabolical by Satyricon. Bad Dreams Come True by Forgotten Tomb. Lifehunger and Paint it Black (Rolling Stones Cover) by Vreid. Myr by Taake. Ethereal Fire by Cloak. Sworn to the Dark by Watain. Sick with Society by Doom. The Facts by Trap Them. Home of the Grave by Black Breath. Dragged to Gehenna by Vallenfyre. Unsilent Death by Nails. Suffer by Dead in the Dirt.

    • @winstonchurchill5815
      @winstonchurchill5815 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Voicemeeter has a noise reduction filter that could help reduce the buzz in the background

  • @ComradePilas
    @ComradePilas 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    The way I see it.
    Death 'N' Roll: death metal bands taking influence from hard rock and groove metal
    Black N Roll: black metal bands taking influence from first wave black metal, heavy metal and speed metal
    Entombedcore: bands who really love entombed's guitar tone, it can be any style such as grindcore/powerviolence (Nails), Metalcore (All Pigs Must Die) or Death Metal (Gatekeeper)

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think the Metalcore or rather Metallic Hardcore type Entombedcore, is sort of like Proto-Entombedcore, if that makes sense. And I'm not sure I would call straight up Death Metal bands Entombedcore, but I get what you mean.

  • @xxp0siZlayr
    @xxp0siZlayr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    yet another beautifully audio mastered occulturation video. trvely kvlt production

  • @theproletkulttn
    @theproletkulttn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Currently a bit taken aback by the mic noise, still a killer video bro!

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      This is my Blackwater Park era

    • @user-bq5ki3qn1l
      @user-bq5ki3qn1l 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@whatsinameme5258Hi ! Wheres your video about Groove ?! Did it got deleted ?

  • @williek6888
    @williek6888 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Another sub sub genre that was lateral to this was D-Beat Rock n Roll/ Motorcharge sound. The blending of Hardcore Punk of Discharge/GBH Swedish HC like Anti-Cimex w/ Motorhead & some Speed Metal. Some examples would be Inepsy, later Disfear (has guy from At the Gates), Skitkids, Auktion. Arguably Entombed's "Uprising" may be closer to D-beat n Roll than Deathnroll. Anyways, cheers!

  • @MegaMicah12
    @MegaMicah12 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The *metal n' roll* subgenres I've been intrigued with, due to them not getting brought up too often, so it's nice to now have learned about them.
    I'll probably keep them in mind if I want something different for a tailgate or party hehe.

  • @kingthorgrim1591
    @kingthorgrim1591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    By the way man, the more i watch your videos the more I think you have the best metal channel on youtube, the way you analyze the music and themes so in depth is extremely interesting and it makes me understand things about this beautiful style of music that in my now 17 years of listening to this stuff even I could not comprehend, props to you man

  • @michaelmartinez7158
    @michaelmartinez7158 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    To me, these styles make Death and Black Metal fun. As I’ve grown as a person and a listener, I need a little more emotional nuance in my Metal, through melody!
    Also, I wouldn’t mind a video on Blackened Heavy Metal or Black/Heavy Metal bands.

  • @josephstalin322
    @josephstalin322 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The birds of prey mention was great! I love the band and haven't seen a single person mention them until now

  • @Malum09
    @Malum09 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I kinda like Death 'n' Roll, sounds like a more Accessible version to present Among uninitiated people.

  • @ZekeNigma
    @ZekeNigma 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Something interesting I've recently thought about is how besides Carcass and Kataklysm, there doesn't seem to be anyone else notable that really did the melodeath 'n' roll blend. That is until I realized that bands like Soilwork and Mercenary, who are typically labeled as groove/melodeath, are actually the ones that continued the development of that sound, because groove/melodeath IS melodeath 'n' roll. If you listen to songs like "Bulletblues" by Mercenary (and pretty much the rest of the Everblack album), you'll notice the evident death 'n' roll influence there. I'm honestly convinced that pretty much every band that is listed as "melodic death/groove metal" on the Metal Archives were influenced by Entombed and Carcass to some degree, and are actually just melodeath 'n' roll in reality, but wound up managing to slip past getting the death 'n' roll label anyway.

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for recommending Mercenary. Good Stuff. I think you are correct. Early Mercenary is Death n' Roll for sure. Been a minute since I listened to Soilwork, but I think you might be right there too.

  • @sandhya315
    @sandhya315 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Was explaining that this is essentially what Metallica did in the 90s with Thrash tho lol

  • @HunterShark300
    @HunterShark300 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always loved the Roll genres. Great video as always.

  • @SxBxSxPx
    @SxBxSxPx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your videos are Pure jewels, please make one of Grindcore

  • @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny
    @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You should check out a Death N Roll band called ''The Cumshots'' if you're up for the genre. The first and third album are probably my favorites if I had to give recommendations lol.

  • @KzudemRiM
    @KzudemRiM 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    your cadance has improved way lot my friend :)

  • @Caylen666
    @Caylen666 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey man, great work on this, you’re definitely filling in the void Goniloc left when he quit making content. Keep at it.

  • @Hunac-Ceel
    @Hunac-Ceel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good to see you upload again ❤

  • @j.m.1928
    @j.m.1928 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Welcome back dudedet🤘🏾

  • @Timmorrisjr
    @Timmorrisjr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In regards to black n roll, I never understood why some consider bands like Midnight or Destroyer 666 to be black n roll. They’re more just classic black/speed metal. For me, Taake does black n roll the best out of any who’ve tried. It still sounds like black metal, but with a bluesy groove. Du Ville Ville Vestland is a perfect example of a song that does the genre right.

  • @rennent3967
    @rennent3967 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YOUR BACK WOOOOO

  • @riptarozone
    @riptarozone 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel like kvelertak fits in here somewhere

  • @Negativenblack777
    @Negativenblack777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great to see the Birds of Prey recommendation!

  • @skeletonoutthecloset9235
    @skeletonoutthecloset9235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I re-watched the prog-metal video, and I was curious if you had heard of Deca?
    He isn't Metal or rock, but the commentary on your prog-metal video reminded me of a couple of his albums.
    Particularly:
    "Snakes and Birds"
    "The Way Through" &
    "The Ocean"
    I would be very interested in hearing your opinions on these albums, but I don't expect them to be up your alley.
    I do think you would be able to appreciate the lyrics and Instrumentals, but they're definitely not heavy like groove metal.

  • @finnlewis2528
    @finnlewis2528 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Will Power Metal be next?

  • @ismaelfreytes1106
    @ismaelfreytes1106 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    blackened death n roll

  • @PaballoKobe-xh9ve
    @PaballoKobe-xh9ve 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nu metal and roll (but rock i geuss)thrash and roll(bkack album)
    When is deathcore and roll coming out or is that too what would that even be

  • @MetalJohnIcedEarthGeeksvlog
    @MetalJohnIcedEarthGeeksvlog 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Khold is similar to Satyricon-like Black 'N' Roll with 90's Black Metal.

  • @luarswrath5282
    @luarswrath5282 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Entombed is the best death metal band of all time. Don't @ me. R.I.P LG Petrov❤

  • @brunogasparoto7150
    @brunogasparoto7150 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't tell sometimes if it's death and roll or groove metal

    • @Jesushairguy
      @Jesushairguy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like the drums give it away, if you hear a blast beat it’s prob death n roll

    • @fallen119
      @fallen119 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To me they have different vocal styles, different tones, and lyrical themes.

    • @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny
      @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel the riffs are different as well, more chunky I guess? Can't put a word on it but I notice it

  • @r3lativ
    @r3lativ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you set up a spotify playlist with those?

  • @74katong
    @74katong 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you forgot about 'Abbath!'

  • @1zz64
    @1zz64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you make a video about the difference between hardcore and hardcore punk?

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Perhaps, but to answer the question, they are the same thing. I think the confusion stems from the hybrid styles and because people use the term hardcore rather loosely sometimes. Bands that blend metal and hardcore are often called crossover or metalcore, or even just hardcore still. But there are different sounds within these blends of styles. For example Suicidal Tendencies ate Crossover Thrash and Hatebreed are Metallic Hardcore. I'd argue they sound quite different, yet are both combinations of metal and hardcore and both sometimes labelled as simply Hardcore. Hardcore punk is something like Bad Brains. Now of course its rather confusing since even Thrash metal has Hardcore punk influence, so these blends get even more incestous. I'd argue 90% of metal is hardcore influenced, and pretty much all hardcore in the 21st century at least is metal influenced. Hope that helps a bit.

    • @1zz64
      @1zz64 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatsinameme5258 thanks🙏

  • @VencentCross
    @VencentCross 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did your audio get WORSE!?

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am overcoming a bad cold, so perhaps my voice sounds a bit off. It shouldn't sound WORSE than the last couple video, but I will concede it doean't sound much better. Been trying to remedy this for awhile, I have a couple more ideas. I'm hoping it should be dealt with by the next installment.

    • @VencentCross
      @VencentCross 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@whatsinameme5258 honestly most of the issues seem to come from bad acoustics and a lack of post recording audio work. you wanna equalize and fill out the sound a bit in editing but if there is too much echo in the room, it will also amp that. you'll wanna record in a smaller room or a room with some kind of sound boarding. i suggest for a cheap fix as a stop-gap, you could use a comforter as a sort of sound barrier. it feels a little silly but draping a thick cover over yourself while recording will do ALOT for the acoustics in this case. i've also heard of ppl recording in their closet with the winter coats which works too. you just need something thick but soft to dampen that echo.

  • @deutschesvaterlandfankanal
    @deutschesvaterlandfankanal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:16 absurd is a thing in the mid 90s so your actually wrong at that

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Oh I'm sure there was Black n Roll in the 90s, I didn't mean to imply there wasn't. I just meant it got prevalent in the 2000s. I mean there was Grunge music in the 80s, but it was pretty sparse. I imagine it was similar with Black n Roll. Kicked off in the 90s, but became a thing in the 2000s. If I'm wrong and there was a huge Black n Roll scene in the 90s feel free to correct me. I don't want to seem like I'm just conveniently leaving out details that contradict my own theory.

  • @tysonwastaken
    @tysonwastaken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    would you put this stuff more with death metal/black metal or metal n roll or hard rock, i dont really create playlists for microgenres
    edit: im probably gonna have to explain what i mean by a microgenre
    its a certain sound taken by a few bands like twinkle midwest emo (american football, mom jeans) or atthegatescore in melocore (as i lay dying, darkest hour) or this stuff

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think I get what you mean. I'd say if its influenced by Melodic Death/Black Metal its more in the Extreme Metal camp, as well as Entombedcore since all the hardcore influence makes it less accessible. But I think Now Diabolical and Wolverine Blues and other straight up Black/Death n' Roll would fit nice alongside 90s Metallica and Megadeth in a playlist.

    • @tysonwastaken
      @tysonwastaken 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@whatsinameme5258 i just noticed wolverine blues sounds a lot like groove metal sepultura

  • @mattdeinken6580
    @mattdeinken6580 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grindcore n roll exists as grind n roll

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any band recommendations? I am not too familiar with Grind n' Roll.

  • @siedmonog
    @siedmonog 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    industriaaaaal :'(

  • @paineoftheworld
    @paineoftheworld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel...

    • @whatsinameme5258
      @whatsinameme5258  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Average Joel rock fan.

    • @joelhernstrom6060
      @joelhernstrom6060 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’m Joel!

    • @paineoftheworld
      @paineoftheworld 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joelhernstrom6060 , hi. Joel, love your videos.

  • @WAcrobat19
    @WAcrobat19 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel we will hear even worse audio in the next few videos