Thanks for both videos very helpful. When you took the bolts off the sump to remove/fit timing cover did you need to jack up anything as well as loosen engine mounts to get clearance or just pry open the sump a bit? Gotta replace timing cover gasket and seal. Love these videos great work.
Thanks man your positive feedback is much appreciated. I think jacking up the engine is a good option to try. I didn't do that just prayed the sump down after removing the bolts as you already said. It's a bit tricky getting the timing cover to seal on the head again but a little RTV will help. Glad you got some value from the videos and good luck with your project. Cheers, Mark
Thanks so much for your positive feedback. This is the link to the rubber sleeve www.ebay.com.au/itm/165494940753?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=vAdKUn79SSy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=P8BbxW-xShq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hey mate did the dizzy completely stop stop spinning or did it just have a dead spot where it was throwing the timing off even more every time the crank rotates? I’ve chucked a new dizzy in mine, and as far as I can tell it’s all good but it’ll only try to run, or backfire The shaft does feel like it’s got 2-3mm of play in it, but does feel like it’s still connected and spinning
It was hard to tell if it was spinning or hit and miss. I'm going to say the latter because every now and again when we were trying to start it, it would let out the mother of all backfires.New dizzy is hard to get seated properly because it has to key into the oil pump. If it's not all the way down it may not be engaging with the drive gear? Identify the interface were the dizzy body sits against the engine block. Easiest way is to give the dizzy a little turn, then try to get a feeler gauge (any size) in between them. If it goes in then it's not fully down. It will need to be pulled partially back out, turned a bit then try it again. If it is fully down the rotate the engine by hand to No1 TDC and check the rotor position is correct. Google it and you will get a pic. If all this fails to get you going the you might need to pull it right out and get a small inspection mirror or borescope camera down in the hole and check the gear. Good luck, it's not the easiest of jobs setting it all up properly.
@@markxtinkering discovered that it does have a flat spot💥 now I’m thinking about fixing it or parking it up, it’s got rego till may but apparently it’s $500 for a new billet aux drive gear
I was lucky enough to get one from a wrecked XG ute but maybe anything from EB onwards might fit too? $500 seems a bit rich to me but I guess it would still be worth it to save the car if it is still good nick otherwise. I must admit when I found this issue on my EL I had to have a good think about the situation and if I was prepared to go there. I'm glad I did because it was very rewarding when it ran again 👍
@@markxtinkering thats what i was think, at most its 2 days pissing around in the shed and ive got till may to get around to it too, id try one from a wrecked motor but itd be hit n miss and they are getting hard to find now, i have an EB but i dont wanna wreck it im actually in the process of doing the same on my mates EB fairmont, we got the new dizzy in, lot less plan than the one in my EL, but we must still have the timing off, i set all the leads to the correct spots on the rotor cap, got TDC and set it to the first one (either it was TDC exhaust or it was 180 out) we managed to get a couple of backfires out the intake, more luck than weve had so far, so i swapped it back around to what should be right and we had absiloutly nothing im thinking when we have another crack we make sure weve got TDC compression and ignore the harmonic balencer and then see how that goes also my mate didnt take a photo of where the rotor arm was sitting, he just went by memory and im hoping thats the reason it wont run, and we lost the bolt for the dizzy fork too lol starting to feel like real life bush mechanics fixing an EB under a tree in the southern riverina lol
@Footrotflats251 don't go by the balancer, as you saw in the vid my one was out a mile. Guessing it spun at some point. Blow air in the plug hole and you can't go wrong. uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/b025b8925936bb6b3ade8a3dbb399941.jpg
when timing it up and you had the 1st piston at tdc, which general direction to the rotor inside the dizzy point? just picked up a e series missing the dizzy and i’m trying to time it up
Try this link here or google EL Falcon ignition timing. Good luck with your project 👍 uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/b025b8925936bb6b3ade8a3dbb399941.jpg
It was quite a long time ago since I did this job but I did have to lower the sump pan down to get the timing cover to fit back in. I don't recall having any problems with the lower guide so it must have just slid into position without getting caught up.
I used stag instead of buying to o ring to seal the fuel pump assembly
Another great video. Nice job Mark!
Thanks man, really appreciate that 👍👍
You would have been pretty gutsy to install that timing gear without double checking the TDC marks of No.1 piston
Great outcome..
Cheers Phil, appreciate your feedback. Don't kye
Thanks for both videos very helpful.
When you took the bolts off the sump to remove/fit timing cover did you need to jack up anything as well as loosen engine mounts to get clearance or just pry open the sump a bit?
Gotta replace timing cover gasket and seal. Love these videos great work.
Thanks man your positive feedback is much appreciated. I think jacking up the engine is a good option to try. I didn't do that just prayed the sump down after removing the bolts as you already said. It's a bit tricky getting the timing cover to seal on the head again but a little RTV will help.
Glad you got some value from the videos and good luck with your project. Cheers, Mark
Another great video. Do you happen to remeber the part number for the rubber sleeve on the fuel pump assembly? TIA
Thanks so much for your positive feedback. This is the link to the rubber sleeve
www.ebay.com.au/itm/165494940753?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=vAdKUn79SSy&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=P8BbxW-xShq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hey mate did the dizzy completely stop stop spinning or did it just have a dead spot where it was throwing the timing off even more every time the crank rotates?
I’ve chucked a new dizzy in mine, and as far as I can tell it’s all good but it’ll only try to run, or backfire
The shaft does feel like it’s got 2-3mm of play in it, but does feel like it’s still connected and spinning
It was hard to tell if it was spinning or hit and miss. I'm going to say the latter because every now and again when we were trying to start it, it would let out the mother of all backfires.New dizzy is hard to get seated properly because it has to key into the oil pump. If it's not all the way down it may not be engaging with the drive gear? Identify the interface were the dizzy body sits against the engine block. Easiest way is to give the dizzy a little turn, then try to get a feeler gauge (any size) in between them. If it goes in then it's not fully down. It will need to be pulled partially back out, turned a bit then try it again.
If it is fully down the rotate the engine by hand to No1 TDC and check the rotor position is correct. Google it and you will get a pic.
If all this fails to get you going the you might need to pull it right out and get a small inspection mirror or borescope camera down in the hole and check the gear.
Good luck, it's not the easiest of jobs setting it all up properly.
@@markxtinkering discovered that it does have a flat spot💥 now I’m thinking about fixing it or parking it up, it’s got rego till may but apparently it’s $500 for a new billet aux drive gear
I was lucky enough to get one from a wrecked XG ute but maybe anything from EB onwards might fit too? $500 seems a bit rich to me but I guess it would still be worth it to save the car if it is still good nick otherwise.
I must admit when I found this issue on my EL I had to have a good think about the situation and if I was prepared to go there. I'm glad I did because it was very rewarding when it ran again 👍
@@markxtinkering thats what i was think, at most its 2 days pissing around in the shed and ive got till may to get around to it too, id try one from a wrecked motor but itd be hit n miss and they are getting hard to find now, i have an EB but i dont wanna wreck it
im actually in the process of doing the same on my mates EB fairmont, we got the new dizzy in, lot less plan than the one in my EL, but we must still have the timing off, i set all the leads to the correct spots on the rotor cap, got TDC and set it to the first one (either it was TDC exhaust or it was 180 out) we managed to get a couple of backfires out the intake, more luck than weve had so far, so i swapped it back around to what should be right and we had absiloutly nothing
im thinking when we have another crack we make sure weve got TDC compression and ignore the harmonic balencer and then see how that goes
also my mate didnt take a photo of where the rotor arm was sitting, he just went by memory and im hoping thats the reason it wont run, and we lost the bolt for the dizzy fork too lol
starting to feel like real life bush mechanics fixing an EB under a tree in the southern riverina lol
@Footrotflats251 don't go by the balancer, as you saw in the vid my one was out a mile. Guessing it spun at some point. Blow air in the plug hole and you can't go wrong.
uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/b025b8925936bb6b3ade8a3dbb399941.jpg
when timing it up and you had the 1st piston at tdc, which general direction to the rotor inside the dizzy point? just picked up a e series missing the dizzy and i’m trying to time it up
Try this link here or google EL Falcon ignition timing. Good luck with your project 👍
uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201003/b025b8925936bb6b3ade8a3dbb399941.jpg
How do you get the timing case on with the lower guide? There is no clearance what so ever
It was quite a long time ago since I did this job but I did have to lower the sump pan down to get the timing cover to fit back in. I don't recall having any problems with the lower guide so it must have just slid into position without getting caught up.