BEST Milsurp Rifles for Newbies in 2024 and Pro Tips

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  • In the wonderful world of military surplus collecting, it can be very difficult in challenging these days. We saw huge spikes in price during the early 2020s, but now I think prices are getting a little bit more subtle and not as volatile. Mosins and Chinese SKS rifles is or some of the ones that went so high in value that I just couldn’t believe it that they were actually selling for that much. Well it’s 2024 and I’m seeing a lot more of these basic rifles, that are very abundant, for a lot cheaper than what they used to be . So as a military surplus collector, I think right now would be a good time to pick some of those ones up If you don’t have them in your collection. It can also be frustrating if you’re a newbie tryng to find a good deal. Here are my top five military surplus rifles for newbies in 2024.
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    1:03 Why Cheap Mosins are out there right now
    2:37 Why get a Cheap Chinese SKS Type 56 in 2024
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    4:45 The last WW1 and WW2 Surplus Carcanos
    5:51 Ammo for Carcanos
    6:28 Steinel Ammo foor Milsurps
    6:45 Why the Collecting Carcanos can be challenging
    9:45 Mausers in 8mm that are not as desirable
    10:32 Don't get Overpriced M1 Garands
    13:28 the Swiss K31 and K11
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  • @BattlefieldCurator
    @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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  • @grantswartwoudt1557
    @grantswartwoudt1557 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Bought a 91/30 at a local pawn shop in 2023 for 180 doll hairs. And the rifling is great.

  • @JohnAsparagus96
    @JohnAsparagus96 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I'd like to see a "faux misurp" niche kick in, with something like the Ruger M77 or Zastava LKM70 line, but with K98-style furniture, sights and bayonet lug. And a full five (or more) mag capacity, at minimum. The vacancy is there. No more rehashed fudd rifles, no more plastic Walmart junk, we want the real deal.

  • @chrishahn3834
    @chrishahn3834 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A note on the Carcanos from Italy: Make sure to check inside the stock for white mold on the wood. They're in great condition for the most part but it's pretty clear they weren't stored in a humidity controlled environment. lol

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yea I’ve seen some of that white mold. When I took off the stock in the last one I got, there wasn’t any in there but there was only some in the rear sling mount channel.

  • @michakav
    @michakav 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Late 90's I was buying Mosins (91/30, M44, M38) and K-31's for $79 and Yugo SKS's for $109. You could buy crates of Mosins at Dunhams. Wish I knew then!!!!

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I know right!

    • @PassivePortfolios
      @PassivePortfolios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These beater rifles are worth maybe $100 each. You might have to buy two to swap parts in order to have a shooter. Most are wall hangers, unsafe to shoot and ammo is rare and expensive.

    • @Mikhail-Tkachenko
      @Mikhail-Tkachenko 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PassivePortfolios Bet you won't sell yours for that though.

    • @bfgivmfith
      @bfgivmfith 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I worked with a guy back then that taught me a lot about life. He told me specifically in the moment to get an SKS! That was the only advice he gave me that slipped past in the moment! Dammit! :) Why God? LOL! Probably for the best at the time.

  • @naturaljoe759
    @naturaljoe759 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Back in ‘04-05, my local gun shop had a storeroom full of SKSs, mostly all original and some with engravings on the stocks in various languages, for sale at $109 each in a box. Back then a decent AK was under $400.

    • @bfgivmfith
      @bfgivmfith 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I missed the train! :) Too much life happening during that time. ;)

  • @chadbuxton2063
    @chadbuxton2063 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome info. Thank you sir.

  • @Grantiese
    @Grantiese 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You can still find Swedish M96s for similar pricing to Swiss rifles.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! That is true. I actually picked one up today 😁

  • @JeremyS86
    @JeremyS86 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    if you're a canadian, get a lee enfield. they sell .303 brit everywhere here in eastern canada. canadian tire even had it last i was there

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are they importing into the US? I'm primally interested in modern manufactured FMJ instead of WWII surplus or soft-nose hunting bullets.

    • @AnniversaryRoad
      @AnniversaryRoad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not in western Canada. Nearly impossible to get .303 unless you buy online. Main reason I haven't bought a Lee Enfield.

    • @JeremyS86
      @JeremyS86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnniversaryRoad you can get it at canadian tire here man, cabellas. they even had it at walmart at one point. idk if they even sell ammunition now though

  • @andrewgee241
    @andrewgee241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    The lack of ammo for the Carcanos is a deal killer if you plan to shoot it. And if you can find ammo its $50 a box. Same problem with Arasakas and the Mannlicher 1895.

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah unless you reload ammo thst works is hard to find since bore diameter is a bit weird if I remember right.
      Though with how hard reloading stuff is to get good luck

    • @Dem0nActual
      @Dem0nActual 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Milsurp munitions is planning on having carcano ammo in production soon

    • @cmbart1
      @cmbart1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's commercial Jap 7.7 available. Blew my mind when I first saw it at my LGS and the owner was like yeah there are people buying it around here.

    • @jarodcrazyindian
      @jarodcrazyindian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I just ordered 4 boxes for $35 each. But, I use the internet. It's really great.

  • @jacobyoung4657
    @jacobyoung4657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was lucky to get a very nice mosin at the start of 2023 for under 250 at a pawnshop, it was an anniversary gift from my wife.

    • @jacobyoung4657
      @jacobyoung4657 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also got lucky and my dad gifted me his original COMPLETE Chinese sks

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome 😎

  • @chh3781
    @chh3781 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for disclosing on the RTI, I know I’ve commented before and it seemed harsh, lol
    But great content man! Keep it up!

  • @sammartinez8084
    @sammartinez8084 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great show 👍👍👍👍 and thanks for the info 👍👍👍👍😁

  • @alanb2845
    @alanb2845 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    And for god’s sake, don’t give the Gunjoker scumbags reselling CMP garands for 3k a single cent

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Got my garand for like 1k from the civilian marksmanship site.
      Shipped to my door. Just had to show my ID, dd214 and nra membership

    • @TheWolfElder
      @TheWolfElder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fuck GunJoker. Enough said.

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice shout of for Koba49! He pointed me your direction!

  • @NOLIFENECKBEARD
    @NOLIFENECKBEARD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I got me a turk mauser with 440 rounds of steel cased romanian surplus ammo for 400 bucks out the door on a local gun trading forum. Stock has no cracks and the bore is mint which ik for turk mausers is uncommon. My best deal post covid on the same forum is a m38 6.5 carcano CLAPPED the hell out but with a shootable bore. 2 boxes of 6.5 andna steel surplus clip for 100 bucks. Yes you read that right. Your best bet imo is finding local gun forums and trading websites in your state and getting good with the guys on there. I just got me 900 rounds of 7.62x54R wolf non corrosive ammo for 45 cents a round. Learn the market value figure out what the average condition of the gun you want is and the price it sells for and then hunt it. Im currently hunting a 1896 swedish mauser and doing my research because manufacturer and condition matter. Rule of thumb tho is turkish and chinese surplus stuff is usually clapped out and the price typically reflects that.

  • @Brickington23
    @Brickington23 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im super partial to anything that shoots 7.62 ammo of any variety, maybe its luck but nothing from China, Russia, or Poland has ever let me down. Great video, it was super helpful!

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      china makes alot of junk but they make quality firearms

  • @northumbriabushcraft1208
    @northumbriabushcraft1208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Nice video, it would be nice if we could get this stuff over here, all the bolt actions you mentioned are here but on the secondary market and rifle licensing is a pain in the arse.
    My biggest regret was not getting a M1886 Mannlicher rifle when the big crates of them came into the UK from Chile. We could get them worn out as wall hangers for £150, with broken or missing parts for £100, £300 for field grade and £500 for mint condition. I wanted to go for the £300 one.
    We don't get much surplus stuff coming into the UK, but we still get Schmidt-Rubins from time to time in amazing condition, I've wanted to pick up one but when I had the chance locally I spent my money on a Edo period wakizashi instead which I don't regret, but I still want that swiss goodness.
    I'm not interested in the deactivated stuff common over here, I like my guns working, we get loads of pistols, smg's and assault rifles coming into the UK but they are all deactivated.
    And seen as I don't have space for a gun cabinet atm and for that reason sold my shotguns and now don't have a licence, I just collect antiques and airguns, so lots of late 19th century bolt actions/straight pulls, muzzleloaders and revlovers on the menu for me, because those antique semi autos like the Bergmanns or those antique Austrian semi autos are too pricey for my poor ass, I don't have 10 grand for a gun, if I did I'd buy a APC or a armoured car instead 😊
    At least we have a abundance of surplus trucks, tanks, apc's, jets, artillery and naval vessels in the UK, despite me not being able to afford them 😂
    Edit: that originally was one block of text 😂

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yea a friend went to a reenactment there in Europe and was surprised at all the vehicles he saw

  • @Pavia1525
    @Pavia1525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Best deal out today is the Portuguese Mauser. They just came out of storage and little used. Basically a WWII K98k in great shape.

    • @andrewgee241
      @andrewgee241 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Atlantic is selling them for $1459. Where are these deals?

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@andrewgee241 yeah besides the cool factor, you can get some darn good rifles for 1500.
      Not like back on the day when you could grab turkish mausers for 200 bucks.
      One lucky guy on a reloading forum has boxes of turkish mauser actions he picked up dirt cheap on the 80s or 90s.
      He has some cool projects of guns he built. 450 bushmaster in a Mauser rifle for deer hunting was one. Plus others he built for different calibers.

    • @Pavia1525
      @Pavia1525 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewgee241 $1500 with a matching bayonet and the rifle in great condition is a good deal, when you consider these are the same rifle model made by Mauser and used by the Wehrmacht during WWII. A matching German WWII K98k in that condition is almost $3000 today.

  • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
    @AnonEMus-cp2mn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Pulled the trigger on finally getting an Enfield No 4. Luckily I got one that appears to be a late 1943 ROF Fazakerley production (cheaper machining and finish) that was most likely upgraded during or after the war (brass buttstock, Canadian stamped-steel adjustable rear sight, rifling with no discernible wear). Only downside is that .303 British is fairly expensive but I'd rather have modern non-corrosive cartridges than surplus of questionable condition.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t downplay HXP (Greek) surplus ammo… I’ve shot a lot of it, non-corrosive and brass can be reloaded. Just picked some more up recently from a gunsmith

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks I'll look into it @@BattlefieldCurator

  • @demonbright7292
    @demonbright7292 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Woohoo, my sks is an arsenal 26, and my mosins a tula. love em both!

  • @joshuaregrut3150
    @joshuaregrut3150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got my mosin nagant m91/30 for 495 I really like the mosin

  • @Wicked505
    @Wicked505 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pulverized the like button 😂

  • @scabcrawler632
    @scabcrawler632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I watched a beat up norinco sks bring $1000 at a sportsman auction few years back here in the midwest

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      theres so many types of SKS i had a guy at a pawn shop try to sell me a beat up chinese BARREL ONLY for over a thousand telling me these things are selling for THOUSANDS
      you can easily get norincos for 4 to 6 and yugos for 5 to 7
      seems like theres alot of auctions and sellers who dont realize there are very specific expensive sks but 99% of them arent rare or worth thousands

  • @HomesByPatrick
    @HomesByPatrick 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would like to see you review the Portuguese m937 Mauser

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For any new collectors that find themselves getting serious about the hobby look into getting a C&R FFL. It's not a total no brainer - do your research and understand the plusses and minuses. But it opens up a lot of options for a collector.

  • @bobthenailer3171
    @bobthenailer3171 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There's a few m91 mosins on gun broker that someone thinks they're gonna get $2k for

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The big 3 i normally recommend are mosins, mausers and enfields. Carcano is close, but needing to source a clip puts people off.
    Besides that, the rest are not exactly beginner guns, more so oddities here in the US

    • @armorer94
      @armorer94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Royal Tiger Ethiopian cache is bringing a lot of Lee-Enfields in. The quality is hit and miss, but for $400...

    • @theblindsniper9130
      @theblindsniper9130 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@armorer94 I normally stack the c grade rifles for dirt cheap. I do refurbishments, have a few on my channel at this point. Theyre worth it haha

    • @nikkonikko8684
      @nikkonikko8684 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@theblindsniper9130seen em... great videos

  • @d.b.1176
    @d.b.1176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If I was new to the game I’d get a SKS. Decent prices and it’s basically a Garand AK

  • @jarodcrazyindian
    @jarodcrazyindian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I ordered the Cavalry Carbine from RTI for $229 Very Good, hand select bore. I should get it this week. 🤞 I have ordered 80 rounds, PPU so Im not expecting the best accuracy wise, but im hopeful.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should still be ok at under 100 yards! Hope you get a good one!

  • @user-iz8zs2xr5v
    @user-iz8zs2xr5v 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you have any info on the British Enfield rifles like availability price and maybe were to find one.I was told they are smooth actions and good shooters. thanks for your help..Rick

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might have to search around online and at local stores. There’s plenty of them out there, and fair value is around 600 for them

  • @travisrolison9646
    @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Honestly for the prices even beat up mosins are going for, its better to skip them.
    Unless you want it for the cool historical factor or just for fun.
    But for value you can get some good budget model guns that will shot more accurately for less and if you buy used you can get some high quality rifles as well.
    Gone are the days of cheap war surplus rifles and ammo that you can hunt with or take to the range.

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      are the mosins actually selling for those prices? i see them for 700 to 900 but i only see the sub 500 actually sell

  • @markpalmer7832
    @markpalmer7832 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Long time ago, a mosin nagant was worth less than $100

  • @jessefiorinif6057
    @jessefiorinif6057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Carcanos it’s like α mosin with all of its downsides, plus the clip & ammo issues.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea I’d say more finicky things to deal with than a Mosin

  • @sam__304
    @sam__304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember Norinco SKS's for $69 wholesale

    • @dongilleo9743
      @dongilleo9743 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember when Chinese SKS rifles first came on the market. There were so many, and they were priced so cheap. I thought they were ugly, and swore I'd never buy one. I finally ended up buying one. Hard to resist with the price under $100. Turned out to be one of my favorite for shooting. Broke my heart when I had to let it go when I retired and downsized.

    • @sam__304
      @sam__304 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @dongilleo9743 The $69 price was in the early 90s, and ammo was cheaper than 22lr is today.
      Agreed , they are ugly, but they work. I never bought one.

    • @flipster9025
      @flipster9025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dongilleo9743 and that's your excuse?

  • @martinm3474
    @martinm3474 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1911 Argentina Mauser rechambered into .30-06 and not marked. I 'think' the rechambering was by Argentina.

  • @danielcurtis1434
    @danielcurtis1434 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The carcano was sabotaged. See it uses .267” bullets instead of .264” every other 6.5mm uses. Even ammo manufacturers didn’t know.
    The result was undersized bullets no gas seal and awful accuracy and performance. A similar issue happened with the 7.35mm guns. As a result Italian guns were thought of as inaccurate.

  • @johndill7380
    @johndill7380 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you play Dixon Dallas in the background?

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You would be surprised 😯 what people are interested in after playing video games with different types of rifle and vehicle combinations in them. The ones that are in 6.5×57, or 7mm×57and a couple of others that are great condition in the bore and a little bit scuffed up on the outside of the finish and stock. Especially the South American and Spanish/Turkish ones are nice also. I believe that Sweeds had a beautiful version of them in I believe and in the 6.5 or 6×55, is going to be a great, flat shooting caliber that your going to be able to taylor to you needs ;if you know a ballistician who you trust in, he make or load it for you if he has the dies, and equipment to do so. If not offer to get them some and the rest of the supplies, or you could ask them to help you get started with doing of your own. So many ways to go if you study and really do your due diligence if you research. Not for the impatient or people in a hurry.

  • @xlerb2286
    @xlerb2286 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've still got about 3 unopened crates of Mosin ammo for me that's a lifetime supply and then some. It's corrosive ammo but that's not so bad to clean up, you just have to do it. If you can find a Mosin at a reasonable price and some old Russian ammo it's still a great rifle to have some fun with at the range. Fire it at dusk and you'll be impressed by the fireball from that ammo.

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same i have 3 cans of it I walked around at a gun show trying to sell it 5 years ago for 180 then moved to 160 a can (of 440rds) and no one wanted them. Glad they didn't sell.

  • @mattmorrison9379
    @mattmorrison9379 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Come to NH, every k31 i see for sale in a gun shop is 1k or more. M1 garands 1500 for a clapped out one. Finnish mosin especially if its a Sako they want 1400 bucks for it. And they sell which is crazy imo. Chinese sks still around 600 bucks , not to bad for that atleast.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow. Yea I’ve noticed that specific areas tend to have some high priced stuff in their stores. People buy them at those prices which keeps the shops from pricing them lower. Some online websites have cheaper deals. I definitely think that the CMP is the way to go for a solid M1 Garand because they got them for around 1k and even some fair to good condition ones are around 700.

  • @armorer94
    @armorer94 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    $1000 mosin? I paid $150 for one 10 years ago. $300 for a Chinese SKS 5 years ago. Looks like my timing was good.

    • @user-qo3yy9nv1u
      @user-qo3yy9nv1u หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gun haven't gotten more expensive our money just isn't worth anything.

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      anyone paying 1k for a mosin has lost their mind i cant believe anyone is buying that plenty of people trying to sell for it but the only mosins i ever see actually selling are selling for under 500

  • @bfgivmfith
    @bfgivmfith 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The main thing I took from this? Never invade Switzerland in a ground war. LOL!

  • @David_Quinn_Photography
    @David_Quinn_Photography 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is 6.5Car cheaper to reload? if so it maybe ammo people want to reload over buying unless they get a deal on it

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes I know someone who reloads for them

  • @antonsydzyik6870
    @antonsydzyik6870 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My 1886 Lebel is my baby right now, currently saving for an RSC, I had enough for a bid not long ago but I missed it, big sad

  • @belisioglipet4655
    @belisioglipet4655 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What should I expect to pay for an SVT?

  • @Josh93B93
    @Josh93B93 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah i would have recommended an SMLE over anything mentioned in the video

    • @gregewing3916
      @gregewing3916 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had two sport rised smle rifles and I love them. I don't think most people realize how fast and smooth that bolt action is. Sadly there was a wildfire...

  • @CoryAlley
    @CoryAlley 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I got my all numbers matching tula mosin last summer for 500 i plan to deer hunt with it i already have a all numbers matching yugo sks i just started collecting milsurps born in the wrong era

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yugo doesnt have chrome lined barrel make sure you keep it clean

  • @jaylockwood8701
    @jaylockwood8701 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wolf ammo 30-06 blew my gas tube off the front

  • @trench_raider8247
    @trench_raider8247 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Came here to figure out which particular rifles will jump up in price because of this

  • @admiral_franz_von_hipper5436
    @admiral_franz_von_hipper5436 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spanish Mausers, especially the 1916 short, are really cheap for some reason. My local outrageously overprice gun store sells usable, but not pretty quality ones for around $300. Their Carcanos are around $500 for no good reason though.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hahaha! That’s crazy, I wonder if they got word that Carcanos are selling so they marked them up. The Spanish M1916 Mausers I’m seeing elsewhere are also around that as well.

    • @admiral_franz_von_hipper5436
      @admiral_franz_von_hipper5436 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BattlefieldCurator This gun store is kind of known in the area for overpricing most of their stuff. Those Carcanos have been sitting in their store for several years at least by this point. The 1916 is in a weird spot, the stores that actually know what they have sell it for a significantly higher prices than the stores that have no idea what it is. I found mine at a place where they labeled it as a "8x57 Mauser, Country: Unknown"

  • @SouthSideProdigy
    @SouthSideProdigy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I purchased my first Mosin during the pandemic as I was trying to get into Milsurp a little bit more and it was a Hungarian M44….i paid 600 for it which everyone called me insane for but at the time we all thought that was the new price for passage.

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      please tell me it was really really good condition and had bayonet a sling maybe some extras with it?

    • @SouthSideProdigy
      @SouthSideProdigy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SweetheartQuest it’s in really really good condition like unbelievable good with perfect wood which clearly has either been changed out or someone just loved the gun that much but no extra accessories just the gun and nothing else for that price during the pandemic…and in my area where I was looking and located that honestly at the time was considered a good price.

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SouthSideProdigy hungarian m44s were sometimes refurbed in romania and there would be signs of that like non matching for example if its not refurb that would be better

    • @SouthSideProdigy
      @SouthSideProdigy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SweetheartQuest ya it’s non matching so I’m gonna assume it saw some refurb work at some point plus again the stock basically looks brand new and well maintained. The rifle receiver itself is dated 1958.

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SouthSideProdigy i dont know enough about hungarian refurbs to give you much info about them i will say when it comes to simonov and mosin i prefer heavily refurbed and proof marked however those types should never command a premium and dont let anyone up sell you on a refurb even if it is arsenal refurb (sorry for the spam comments yt algo loves to over moderate pewpew discussions)

  • @isaiahflaten3817
    @isaiahflaten3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would be a good deal for the Swiss K11 now?

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably around the 400 range, but a good deal would be closer to 300 or under. Plenty of websites have the K11s as surplus now. Probably best to shop around

  • @Zown-ej3fl
    @Zown-ej3fl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I see mil surplus as an investment. The price will always go up. It’s like buying gold.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And what did Gold just do the other day? All time high?! These collectibles are pretty decent alternative assets, but I do think that stocks and real estate do more for an individual’s retirement for the long term. Just my opinion.

  • @scotttwombly6528
    @scotttwombly6528 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Prices are crazy. I did my collecting late 80,s to 2000,s. Milled like new M48 69 bucks on sale. I bought a lot. My U.S. WW2 guns are non import marked. I can’t sell my kids want them. Minty BYF 41 Luger original holster and matching magazine under 1000. In my 20,s and 30,s. My friends would ask why do you like smelly old guns. Lol

  • @mikemcshea5919
    @mikemcshea5919 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I bought two mosins in 2012 for a total of 200 bucks.Theres still a shit ton of them out there the price is ridiculous.

  • @Bones6987
    @Bones6987 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sold all my M44 carbines when then reached 300
    I was in a 65 to 95 each
    Sorta regret it but the others that money bought was a better investment

  • @kirkboswell2575
    @kirkboswell2575 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The Italian Carcano rifles are VERY well built and accurate rifles. The reason that they haven't received a good reputation in the States is quite simply because they aren't standard. A 6.5 Carcano uses a 268 bullet diameter - NOT the 264 diameter that every other 6.5 uses. If you don't use the correct diameter bullets, you WON'T get good results and consequently WON'T like the rifle. A 7.35 Carcano uses a 300 caliber bullet - NOT the 308 diameter that every other 30 caliber rifle uses. Same thing applies - use an incorrect diameter bullet, and you WON'T get good results. Use of surplus ammo hides these details, but surplus Italian made ammo has become rather scarse. Are the rifles good? ABSOLUTELY. Are there details that you need to be aware of in order to be happy? Again, absolutely.

    • @northumbriabushcraft1208
      @northumbriabushcraft1208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was surprised he didn't mention the non standard bullet sizes, apparently even some commercial ammo used .308 bullets not .300 in the past, so it wasn't just reloaders messing up.
      I personally like the long rifles and the ts carbines, I think the folding bayonet cavalry carbines are kinda janky looking. Wouldn't mind a carcano to sit beside my ww1 Italian sword, which is a beast of a sabre

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same with the mosins. Their 30 cal bullets are .310 i think and not the .308 unless you get a finish model

    • @kirkboswell2575
      @kirkboswell2575 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @travisrolison9646 - Yes, although Mosins are nominally 311/312. QC on Mosins wasn't the greatest, and you'll come across some as large as 314/315. The Finns rebarreled captured rifles and the specs call for 308/309. Finnish Mosins are definitely the better ones.

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kirkboswell2575 yeah i got a rebuilt model, hex receiver for 120 a few years ago and slugged to bore. It was .312.
      Originally wanted to cast bullets for it and shoot reduced loads as a cheap shooter.
      Had trouble casting and getting molds for that size so didnt work well. Finding actual lead wheel weights for cheap got harder also. Then with the shortsges and prices and non availability of primers and powder it killed it.
      If I could shoot cast bullets for like 12cents a pop id do it, but now with prices its gone up to almost 30-40 cents a pop.
      Might as well use my 308 and have accuracy and not have to spend time casting.

    • @kirkboswell2575
      @kirkboswell2575 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @travisrolison9646 - Best option currently available is the Missouri Bullet Company. They make a lot of different calibers, and they are also Hi-Tec coated to prevent leading. Check them out. I think they make a 32-20 bullet that weighs 115 grains which would make a great plinker load and should be accurate.

  • @terryjeffries3233
    @terryjeffries3233 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just traded a 6.5 Swede for a 270 Rem with 4 boxes of ammo .22 Savage Auto rifle and 200 bucks because of the ammo Was hard to get and Is expensive and it was Sported. I’m thinking I got the good deal

  • @Anti_Outcast1
    @Anti_Outcast1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a norinco paratrooper sks for a tad under 500

    • @SweetheartQuest
      @SweetheartQuest 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      recently? if so that is a steal

  • @cotwhunter8789
    @cotwhunter8789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a Finn capture m91 dated 1912 with a ww1 bayo. For 600 Is this good for my first milsurp rifle?

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Imo, that’s a fair deal in today’s market!

  • @undamagedpuppy4830
    @undamagedpuppy4830 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    have a izzy sks 1953r collection. go get yourself an sks

    • @undamagedpuppy4830
      @undamagedpuppy4830 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      also like the 2nd synthetic stock is a norinco paratrooper stock. super rare if you see one, grab it.

  • @stevennutz1109
    @stevennutz1109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    yup, got my M44 for 70 lollipops,,, wish I had bought more,,,also got my Chinese SKS for 99 beans.. my Russian for about two bottles of vodka

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice score!

    • @jarodcrazyindian
      @jarodcrazyindian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You have rather odd trading material. I'm slightly jealous 😀

  • @MrHobgoblin1396
    @MrHobgoblin1396 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    got a Russian sks a few months back for 500$, 1952 tula

  • @johncalliope197
    @johncalliope197 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember my dad buying a mosin about twenty years ago for 70 bucks. Sold it a few years ago for 700.

    • @PassivePortfolios
      @PassivePortfolios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A fool and his money were soon parted.

  • @TheWolfElder
    @TheWolfElder 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gun store near me wants $995 for a 1903 with a sewer pipe barrel. They want $1500 for a K31. They want hundreds on hundreds for rifles worth less than half of what theyre asking.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeez! There are quite a few shops like that I’ve been to… quite sad

  • @hakimcameldriver
    @hakimcameldriver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The best deals dissapeared in the 1960s..

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Swiss are still armed to the extent of every male.

  • @AnniversaryRoad
    @AnniversaryRoad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ***Cries in Canadian***

    • @jarodcrazyindian
      @jarodcrazyindian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      trudeau is a horrible horror.

    • @AnniversaryRoad
      @AnniversaryRoad 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jarodcrazyindian As a moderate left wing voter, I agree.

  • @petermonck5448
    @petermonck5448 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent choices. 👍 🇺🇦😎

  • @talltimberswoodshop7552
    @talltimberswoodshop7552 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    The Italian Carcano was very cheap because they are crap. I bought one in the early 1960s for about $19. I was only about 16 or 17 years old. I tried to put a shot on paper at about 50 feet and couldn't. I could shoot very well. I was on a rifle team at the time. There's no way Lee Harvey Oswald hit President Kennedy with 2 or 3 shots with that rifle.

    • @ericvantassell6809
      @ericvantassell6809 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      well, you shouldn't have given your rifle to oswald

    • @scabcrawler632
      @scabcrawler632 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤫

    • @behindenemylines3361
      @behindenemylines3361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Commerce Carcano rifle ammo isn’t up to original spec’s, I believe the original ammo was a .284 bullet and commercially-made is slightly less. So it makes sense that most rifles aren’t as accurate as they could be. Hand-loading is probably the best bet for Carcano’s.

    • @behindenemylines3361
      @behindenemylines3361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I bought a CMP-Special years ago, (it had a new stock and new barrel) once sighted in, it has become a absolute tac-driver!

    • @behindenemylines3361
      @behindenemylines3361 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ericvantassell6809😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @dustincarner6675
    @dustincarner6675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Milsurp is a collectors market now....Milsurp is a collectors market now.... Ughh the thought of paying $500 for a Mosin is insane. Even more for an SKS.

  • @bernardrizzo8305
    @bernardrizzo8305 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Christ!!!! That much for a Moist Nugget???!!! I remember when they were UNDER $100.00!!

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right! It was shocking to see people BUY a standard M91/30 Mosin for $1k during the pandemic.

  • @wickwilkinson4208
    @wickwilkinson4208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    RTI, no way, never again.

    • @jonathanl2748
      @jonathanl2748 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why is that?

    • @wickwilkinson4208
      @wickwilkinson4208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanl2748 Received a really expensive crappy M1 Carbine from them.

  • @nickriley4609
    @nickriley4609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Seriously where are these surplus firearms...I've looked high and low and it's more hit and miss now....more miss than hit

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I might have make a video on how I do my research

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Made a little under the numbers say 6,000,000 @ the most. I would have to look it up and it might be something a little less than that like 5.5 or 5.8/.9 million of them. Sad part is that there's ships and warehouses full of them that need to get back to America and the Obama administration banned the import of these rifles home and get them back by contract that we signed with many nation's out there. The M1 Garand is very picky about the ammo as you day had to be loaded with 150 Grain bullets and the charge has to be researched but commercial ammunition will bend the operating rod, that is as given as the sun will rise in the East unless the world be lows up. Happy shooting the M1

  • @wasntmeXYZ
    @wasntmeXYZ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely the worst people I’ve ever dealt with in my entire adult life @ RTI.

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You posted the same comment on a few other of my videos. Your experience with them must have been pretty bad, please share…

  • @richvest7212
    @richvest7212 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are no deals on milsurps
    Just buy new

  • @stasylumbassist1
    @stasylumbassist1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imports and mil-surplus is a waste of cash, buy american buy in Nato carts

    • @travisrolison9646
      @travisrolison9646 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Got a garand from civilian marksmanship website. About 1k. Yeah its probably overkill as I could have got an AR or some nice new bolt guns for it.
      But it was the cool factor that ai bought. Not all original of course but looks nice and shoots ok

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah

    • @dustincarner6675
      @dustincarner6675 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only if you're talking about range or modern use guns. For historical collections nah.

    • @stasylumbassist1
      @stasylumbassist1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dustincarner6675 u could spend ur time collecting guns worth collecting. Considering most people dont have a stamp to own full‐autos... most surplus are bolts and in that case just save ur money and not buy WWI n WWII era bolt rifles. Accept pistols, those are still awesome and are worth it.
      Garand and 30carbs are great, but not at 5k

    • @jarodcrazyindian
      @jarodcrazyindian 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have 7 ARs, over 10k rounds, over 100 magazines. I love milsurp and I'll never stop buying. Thanks for stopping by a milsurp video and sharing your profound wisdom with us.

  • @chrisfrank4267
    @chrisfrank4267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ALL MILSURP BOLT ACTION RIFLES ARE A RIP-OFF, DONT BUY THEM TILL PRICES COME DOWN!!!!

  • @frankT.potter7258
    @frankT.potter7258 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about the Lee Enfield? I've had my eye on a No4 for a while now, but i'm always concerned about finding ammo. @BattlefieldCurator

    • @BattlefieldCurator
      @BattlefieldCurator  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I haven’t seen very decent prices on them lately, nor have I seen much ammo either. But hey, they are pretty good 😁

    • @frankT.potter7258
      @frankT.potter7258 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what everybody I talk too says. They love the Enfield platform and I always enjoy the unique cock on close action. Thanks for the response BTW :)

  • @ericvantassell6809
    @ericvantassell6809 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    weapons platform system? Buzzword bonanza