Wuthering Waves Could Be The BEST GACHA EVER, BUT...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Wuthering Waves has the bones of something great, and I wanted to share my hopes for the future, things that I want, and things that could help the game long term.
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i agree with most stuff but fuck twitch drops, and fuck web events. i dont wanna be forced to watch any CC for limited stuff, and wtf is twitch for people across the globe? youtube drops? bilibili drops? facebook drops? watch an ad and gain 20 waveplates? nah, lemme waste my time in game as i wish
Yes ,i also hate web event...
@@nattomakki784 freaking hate it, always forget to do it 😂
brighter future than mine for sure.
Took the words right out of my mouth
Huh
Dammm😢
Damm,take it ez
+1
People are forgetting that We have gliders instead of wings, if u play fortnite u know how crazy some gliders can be and u notice is just the same animation, I cant wait to see different gliders that could be a huge event reward or even selling in the shop
Just wish they had Mobile Controller support or a release date for PS5
It is coming on 1.1 but I can agree wish they would've have it on launch.
yes pls. Im open to whatever platform they introduce us. Controller support on mobile, a xbox or switch version or a native mac version. Like just a single one of these pls. Running it on a emulator rn, could be so much better lmao. Pls kuro 🙏
@@Yewrenegade I don't think it's 1.1 but For sure it's coming, 1.2 will probably the patch
@@OrRaino they already announced controller support for mobile on 1.1
@@OrRaino the mobile controller support on 1.1, that's all I remember. Or if they say it's coming in the future
I think the echo system needs an overhaul, there is no point to them adding low cost echoes if theyre gonna make the 4 costs so much more powerful.
Adding the other echo slots to other triggers(when countering, when knocked down, when idle, on parry, start of combat, so on so forth), they could also get ahead of the competition and let us outright have some smaller echoes as full blown companions, something along those lines would be the best overhauls
At the very least let us switch the equipped echoes out of the menus, or maybe just a choice of an in combat out of combat slot so we can actually use a utility echo occasionally.
They get zero use too quickly and seeing new useless echoes made was somewhat disheartening.
skill issue
I kinda disagree on the holo fights being a one and done thing. I basically play solely to fight those. They are fun. The gameplay itself is the reward to me.
Now I won’t complain about getting more mats from them, but any reward they tie to them is either going to be insignificant, or required to farm.
Most gacha games don’t have meaningful gameplay besides progression, and it’s usually so time gated that it takes 5mins and then you have nothing to do.
The holos give me a reason to stay in the game. So long as they polish the bugs out, and add new holos in from time to time, I’ll be happy.
Yeah, holo fights is my favorite in this game
24:40 I really don't get the Chixia voice acting hate. I thought it was pretty decent. Yangyang for needs to be improved, but Chixia was fine.
i really liked her voice work honestly and yangyang just was boring to listen to same with female rover i do like english dub a lot and i dont actually understand the hate? bc some people are more british? ..?
Maybe they don’t like her New York accent. I like it, but it could be a preference thing for people who dislike heavier accents
@@hassanbashar7832 sure but not preferring something doesnt make it bad
@@LeafletsRealityOf course, but some people don’t think rationally
yeah, I don't get the hate on chixia's EN va, yeah she got a weird accent but at least she doesn't have a boring delivery, but then again I heard much of it since I play JP
Tbh the system for Phantoms before wasn't very good either, them just being an echo instead of a skin is 100% worst. I don't know why you want them to be that special...
1. Collectors dopamine
2. "When everyone is special, no one is" Syndrome
3. Make it hard to find, get some bragging rights, a medal something like that.
At least that's my two shell credits
@@najmifarhan6052 I agree on them being too easy to find and need more variants overall but, they should be just skins. They shouldn't be diffenent from any echo beside how they look
2:33 and for the men!
Female rover bunny skin for everyone!
Shinies would make nice things in multiplayer since you can join a world when one has spawned
I'd love to be able to track multiple echoes at the same time too
Imagine the bunny rover skin for female is that pajama looking, while on the male bunny rover is the sexy bunny, id do that
Huh
Didn't people try killing the ceo of mihoyo because of a bunny skin?
@@why7654 what
Doubt they will make bunny skin... well PGR i guess have one (?), but the bunny skin is not the sexy one...
why would kuro waste their time and money on making that? "huhu it's a funny meme" type shit don't sell, Segs sells, that's a proven fact.
If we can customize with outfits. We need to be able to change the gender of our rover. This is something I’ve been wanting from day one
They could always do an event where we would get full Control of bosses and fight against mobs and other bosses, that would be cool
I think Kuro is a little bit lost, they said that with the increase of the Echo Bank to 21 the drop of legendary echo will reach 100% but then that makes the Data Merge useless... The Data Merge of 5 legendary echos should give at least some xp and tuners
Not really since you can still get garbage echo with the wrong element in 3 cost, HP DEF mainstats echo in 1 cost (for DPS). Just because it's 100% gold, doesn't mean you will get the correct mainstats every time.
@@pramanakumalaputra507 And you think that ONE type of echo (cost 3) justifies the whole system? you talk as if it wasn't totally random... it's the same thing as in HSR, salvage legendaries and try to gamba. But the difference is that in HSR at least we have the option to turn it into XP, stop trying to justify a bad system, we just have to hope they improve.
@@Totsukachi wtf are you talking about? Who said I justify the current system? I just point out Data Merge isn't entirely useless right now since you need a way to dispose garbage main stat echo.
Imagine being so bad at reading that you can't interpret something so easy like one simple paragraph. In what part do I justify the system? Did I say it good? Did I say it's fine? In which part I said it's not random? Dumb af.
I just say it's not really useless because it's the only way right now to get rid of useless echoes. Go back to elementary school. Imagine can't read a single paragraph.
They will never do that. You can farm echoes infinitely in this game. the whole point is to prevent you from advancing / getting god rolls too fast.
And dude, Genshin and HSR are the same, just different methods of timegating you. You spend resin to get Artifacts, which then you can use as EXP to upgrade other artifacts. In WuWa, you farm echoes and then use waveplates to get EXP. Atleast in WuWa you can farm echoes with the correct mainstats cause it's not tied to stamina.
Data merge is pretty useful though, what are you on about?
Increase the Asterite rewards you get from daily commissions to 70, so that way, you're guaranteed 160 Asterite a day when you pair it with the monthly subscription.
Imagine if they really did a prophunt stuff but you can parry/perfect dodge the hunters XD
That could work, but if you're up against someone that's cracked at parry and perfect dodge, it might not be fun for the hunters
Yeah. Having my camera aimed at a unit right in front of me while my character keeps trying to hit an enemy they're randomly locked on to 50 feet behind me is so fking annoying.
Edit: Also, having to spend 60 waveplates on the boss enemies is nuts. Most other games have that at 30-40. 60 is fine for the tacet fields I guess.
That camera might be making this game combat feel way worse than it should be if they don't fix it early enough. The reason for the camera being so fucked is because they set the auto target system TOO FAR and the time it target also too long, and worst of all, they're random in a set range. Meaning, after you take down 1 minion, because the range is too wide AND it's also random, it will pick the random target in the area which make you feel like a lot of the time you can't really target the minion you want to fight when it should be the closest one, that would mess up your plan of clearing any room of mob that has multiple minions and you don't have AOE.
There are few things I want in WuWa:
- Please don't re-release the same character with a different skin
- Please make a skin shop at the same level as you did in PGR
- (Optional) If you want to humiliate GI, HSR, and other games, recreate the mechanic of earning slightly improved skins as the character's level increases, just like in PGR
Extra:
- (Required) Please modders, get ready quick the Wuthering Waves Model Importer, I NEED to have my cute little Encore and Verina in a different outfit every single day
LIKE IN PUNISHING GRAY RAVEN, THEY GIVE FREE SKINS SOMETIME IN A PATCH. THEY ALSO HAVE CRAFTABLE SKINS, THEY ALSO HAVE SOMEWHAT LIKE A GATCHA SKINS BUT THE REWARDS IS REALLY WORTH IT SO ITS NOT REALLY A LOSE AND EVEN FREE 2 PLAY CAN GET IT, BY USING THE GAME CURRENCY AND NOT THE PAID ONE. AND THERE ARE ALSO LITERALLY JUST PAY TO GET IT SKINS.. SO KURO MIGHT ALSO PUT THAT IN WUWA.. AND I HOPE SO CAUSE THEIR SKINS ARE DOPE.
It would be great if they had raid bosses that you did with other players by signing up at a tower or something. EARNABLE OUTFITS FOR ROVER IN GAME!
I quit NIKKE because of the skin gachas; I knew I'd be spending the full amount every time and it just felt so scummy. I'll pay 20-25 maybe even 30!! upfront for a skin I REALLY love, but gachas for them will genuinely make me drop a game
Heavy on the 1/8196 shiny odds. Skins should be paid but affordable. No riot games shit. Pancit fields either need to give more sealed tubes and tuners OR lower the waveplate cost. I'm for the former.
Bunny suit female rover + garter strap tactical masked male rover
Oiled up hex juice
These are my demands.
Being honest yeah, idk how kuro can outdo the character's they have released in 1.1 because they are SO amazing😭🙏
Cosmetic like skins is profitable for companies while also not ruining balance between players.
Accessories would be awesome too. Like a hat that can be equiped to any character.
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1.don’t worry there WILL be skins but…maybe not until 1st rerun cuz Kuro really GOOD at skin
2.boring event is to be expected but once Kuro add more end game and more permanent refresh mode in the future these boring event kinda…fade into the shadow in the back of our mind(which it shouldn’t so yeah 1 point to be taken here)
one thing I can think of is “raid boss rush” and “war point taken,defense and advance” event in terms of of fun coop event which is fit to Wuwa theme
*yeah…pls Kuro turn that reverse rain story quest into full blown war event it’s REALLY cool if we can do that*
3.hologram will reset since it has it’s own currency so to NOT reset it is lame
4.yeah phantom echo NEEDED to be rework
here’s some proposition…
- guaranteed preferable substat upon absorbing maybe just 1 to not break the game
- more preferable approach to give unique echo effect entirely to them for example summon flying spin turtle attack and upon landing on the ground give heal&taunt effect for a duration=showtime for my shiny
5.yeah hope they fix lock system it’s annoying
6.twitch drop drip is nice idea
The game is great, and with Kuro i believe there is hope, as PGR is quite the great game for people who actually enjoy a challenge, and they are not predatory as a company
It could be but Nikke exists so maybe they can be No 2.
I will say I do have confident hopeium in WuWas story for the simple reason that I have seen the story of PGR from the start up to Bambinata. And the story has only improved since. They clearly understood their mistakes and where to look at. Now, it is told as a visual novel since its not a Openworld game and that can be quite off putting (also doesn't help a node of cutscenes can be like over 20 min at times, there is a skip button though). In a general sense, I am playing WuWa as a pure casual who will log on only a few times per few weeks due to a burn out on gacha games (that PGR grind was real real). I am glad with what they have done with the game, but things like the echo system and holograms being the only real endgame rn is annoying asf. Wish they had something like the PPC from PGR or a boss rush as mentioned. Cause that shit would be fun as hell.
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YEAH WE NEED MORE SKINS ALL OF THE CHARACTERS
Umm, it has a guide for dodge and parry in the guidebook,but having an event for parry and dodging sounds good
I meant to see how many times you could successfully dodge/parry in a row with increasing difficulty lol
Cause for end game base illusive realm and base tower of adversity isn’t enough I still think hsr is the only gacha game that has so many amazing end game options
i still think they have to add more endgame content to the game, specially about the combat since most of the players who play this game enjoy the combat, and i think they have to do something with 3 cost echos, its very hard to farm them and since its a gacha game so most of the ppl are casual, i dont think they will have time to farm these
It is possible that they are already working on a skin for Rover, girl. I saw that it was colored pink. It's still a work in progress but it will appear
Source pls
Source?
not sure if she knows but you can filter out which echos get used in merging
I also want more illusive realm like expansions like how simulated universe in hsr has a lot of expansions stuff like that and more end game in this game in general
I want character showcases for coop. If you click on someones profile there is nothing special to see unless they add them.
there's actually a trial where they learn you to dodge and get some astrite! it is in menu where all obtained characters trials are ❤
if they are gonna put skins in the game i think they will time it when theres a special day maybe? like for example easter egg and then they will put a sale for a maybe cosplay skins like bunny suits or look goofy with an egg shell skin just like what TOF do but their skins are gacha too so its kinda meh but if u got lucky u get the skin by 1 pull only using the 5 pcs pull they give for free every event.
Not it could be, it already is the best gacha on the market, at least for me ❤.
That is definitely Honkai Starrail but I believe WuWa can be
I think we should be able to deconstruct the echos we don't need, and we can get a currency that goes towards the data merge so we don't feel forced to do it when our echo inventory is full
Hope wuwa add deflect bullets or projectiles for sword users, itll be cool
Actually having more story and lore content of the world and characters would be better
my small idea for "flexing" is title or medals, separate from achievement stuff
like, you can put title after beating X boss without get hit, something like that.
that things is so simple but the value can be huge for flexing, and can motived players to be atleast get good (if the player care enough)
i get this idea from AK. it is so simple, but when i see a player with 4 years gameplay medal i just awe and clapping.
i wish this is make sense.
Add RNG into the phantom systems. This is a gacha game after all.
I had a laugh about the shiny thing. Since she brought up Pokemon. You can get a Shiny DuoDuo but you're still never going to pull it out lol. You know how full Bill's Pc was of shiny or 1 time caught Pokemon? I think the system just needs to be scrapped entirely.
I think you should be able to fuse some of the 3 and 1 costs echos to up the scaling on their abilities. Imagine you can fuse 5 dupes of a 3 or 1 cost echo of the same rarity into one. This could also help with the fact everyone has tons of echos then to actually use.
I do have some parts I am curious about your thoughts
5:05 an event where you learn to parry and dodge.... I don't think that would be an "event" especially that should've stayed in tutorial phase and if you want to practice dodging and parrying there's one in the guide book it's on the third category that says "basic training" and just pick "dodge" option it's a tutorial space that you can visit anytime.
12:20 appreciating the lock button and yet looking for a trash button.... there's trash button at the bag option just on the lower left of the echo details right below the chirpuff echo what exactly are you looking for?
12:34 you zoomed in on your model it's clear as day that there is a trash button right there bellow the chirpuff echo I don't know what kind of trash button you are looking for but there is that button.
For datamerge, if you apply a filter like "main stat hp% and def%" it will only take from that list when auto selecting
And for elemental, I lock echoes that have matching element/set so I trash the rest
Having skins in the game would be great. However they also need to be worth the money as well.
They need to have significant changes to be worth it. Changes like sound effects, visuals, voice lines, and even how Liberations look.
I don’t think a $30 price tag, or however much, would be worth it for a coat of paint imo.
I’d like to see an Echo system load out. These supports and sub-DPS have one or two sets they can go for. I think this helpful especially towards Rover. It’s already a bit bothersome having to change type and then go in and change Echo sets for them.
question... can the history of a gacha game be re-done after its already out? i mean iknow the think that they cant buff or nerfs the characters because you pay for them. but what about the other things?
I want the skins to be buyable straight out, or just procureable through podcast as a special event. Please don't make it a gacha.
For skins, I want skins for Baizhi, Yinlin and Changli. 😂
well i dont think that they will drastically change game. Its still will be open world game, with new regions, new puzzles, new characters etc. its not going anywhere. but they indeed can add more content, like they have in pgr boss challenges, punishing cages and other.
on event side, well i dont expect anything crazy. maybe there will be something interesting sometimes, but mostly its still be evenst in sake just give rewards.
These are all great points. I can't remember exactly what I suggested in the survey, but most of it was no brainer stuff, like little fixes here and there for minor things I encountered. I think this game will live and die by its daily experience and where the story goes. One of those things can be fixed by actually making multiplayer worth doing. The thing about WuWa is it feels like they gave up a niche for appeal, and I'd also like to see more complicated and out of the box kits, but watching Rexlent's stream yesterday, he brought up a good point. PGR can do that, because of how the core of the game is designed. WuWa will have a much harder time with this. While I basically want an open world PGR, orbs and all, I acknowledge that WuWa is a different game and it's still amazing. PGR is special *because* it's niche. WuWa will die if it niches down too much. PGR is a game that most people have never heard about, WuWa is everywhere. I want an open world PGR, but Kuro needs profits for once.
As a side note, as a half joke, I suggested that Kuro add Lucia in any form to the game, even if that form is Lotus. This was a greedy ask, I know, but screw the lore. Kuro, add Hyperdawn to the game. Screw the limits. Go into the hype. I need this. This isn't a gameplay thing. I may be coping with the fact that Global is one year behind CN and I won't get the actual best character for a year. I don't care. Add. Lucia. To. WuWa.
Skins w no gatcha, new glider skins/placement (waist, feet, back) don’t like the hanging.. toggle to keep weapon out (just to flex) an actual double jump AND shorter grapple cooldown, bigger parry timeframe window, better warning/screen effect for attacks coming from behind (spidey sense) 3 consecutive dodges instead of 2 (cause I have no skills and lots of issues) co-op the world and weekly bosses (can’t do character mat bosses in co-op) and please add mobile controller support already
Imagine a stylised glider Echo or Echo Skin for WuWa that you can get from drops :D
It’s like finding shinies on Twitch!!!
Honestly the future of wuthering looks so bright. It's flaws are things that can be pretty easily fixed in over the next couple of months.
On the skin/outfit situations Kuro games in PGR did a great job and I honestly I refuse tonput money on gacha / gambling but if I pay for something that I'm sure to get I'm !
they need to add Vergil skin for Calcharo asap
Changli getting a hex juice skin confirmed
Darling, you forgot to start you tittle video with "dear santa" xD
10:50
yes milady
you know that game mode from rumble ? where you just stay in one place and just jump & crouch ? I want that , but make it so that we use the dodge and counter attack
I want 1 cost and 3 cost echo abilities to do something useful, most don’t. I really really don’t want hide and seek. I despised windtrace. Hopium 9.
co op in hologram would be nice
An exclusive UID that can make an account to do legal mods!
idk if i read it right but the maintenance is like 7hrs >w> ..... must be a big update lol
Ngl if watching twitch will be mandatory I would rather drop the game. Like wtf, i dont want ads in my game
I think a survival mode with a leader board. Enemy teams and not just single target or mobs with intros and healing and what not.
Agree. I want sexy skins for female Rover too :3
But yeah, I agree with pretty much everything in the video, except maybe the overhaul of the story. It’s a bit much to ask.
I think that, if they’re gonna do that, then they should also let us rewatch the story, which also entails more work for them.
I personally just expect the timing ( there are dialogues that get cut off during cutscenes ), the voice acting ( not so much the voice themselves, but their tone, as Rover feels perpetually monotonous and Yangyang perpetually soft. I actually don’t mind Chixia ), and the text ( some are cut off and cannot be scrolled down and others do not match what’s been said by the characters ) to be fixed.
Most issues will be solved with just these, in my opinion.
Overall I would give wuwa a 7/10 it has great bones and great foundation for a good game but it has a lot of issues a lot of issues but I am hopeful cause the devs have been incredibly receptive and are actually listening for right now hsr is my main gacha game it has everything for me good story characters very generous rewards great end game content every patch feels better than the last I don’t think any other gacha game for me has come close and I’m not a hoyoverse shill I hate genshin but I love hsr and I hope that in the future wuthering waves can continue too improve things I want the most expansions too illusive realm a boss rush mode like hsr just dropped but with that kuro games spin on it more unique and different end game modes besides tower of adversity the echo system it’s still a massive fucking grind and worse that genshin and star rail even with the improvements and that’s really it if they fix all that and add all that oh and improve the story then we’re good this game will continue too prosper and get better if that’s the case
Well I'd say WW is good attracting normal gamers. Me. I'm coming from monster hunter, nioh, nier, etc. My last gacha games is genshin. Play for 3 months since launch and got no 5 stars so I quit, back to MHR. Agree with echo loadout, it makes monster hunter friendly for people that makes many kind of build.
Even Honkai impact had great skins that even change attack vfx. Genshin literally devolved the standard for skins, and now HSR is going the head-dent route of somehow still not having any over a year in. WuWa, please do better than this!
Music. We need emotional and catchy music! For now it's in ridiculous state - game about SOUND have generic ost with no purpose, It just exist.
That Michael Jackson laugh caught me off guard 😂
I agree 100% on the twitch: exclusive drops
The counterpart to bunny girl would probably be wolf boy
I always love these game-state/hopes for the game vids. Here's some random thoughts while I'm listening:
Weekly hologram rewards would be great. Dunno what kind but at least the incentive is what I want.
Hoping elusive realm progressively gets better.
Phantoms, brrrrrruuhhhh... maybe I'll appreciate them if I can place them at a housing system.. idk...
It might be cool, if the bosses in wuwa just like elden ring
There's a well known Game called Destiny 2 titled FREE To PLAY but you can't enjoy the whole Game unless you spend the money and there is a Game called Warframe which entitled the real FREE To PLAY experience and so enjoy to play you will willing Spend time and Money to the game.
It is happening to Genshin Impact.
I want skins too but I'm scared of how huge the storage requirement will get!
I saw a mod of female rpver as 2B and now i want it
Lmao now i get all the damn exclamation marks on some of my echoes. How the hell do u slap the shiny skin on em? I couldnt figure out how to get rid of the marks haha.
The game is having a huge resources issues...like the shell credit requirement is very high
Edit : another thing I want but no one is talking about..in co op I want a indicator of other players on the minimap to locate their location easy...sometimes it gets frustrating to search for other players thoughtout the map
women just let them cook its just ver 1 and 1.1 would be amazing if not I'm gonna complain it with you 🤞
Hex there is a reason for farming holograms.
I did a rank 4 hologram after doing my first clear and I got 3 3-cost echos and a 4-cost
Idk what the min/max rewards are from repeat runs, but besides the lack of echo EXP (across the whole game), thats a pretty nice reason to repeat
Trust in kuro, if pgr is anything to go off of then this game will be even better
For sure the events are doo doo but free currency
world boss raid in ww very ez to make, just creat an event where you fight with supper hard boss, you can solo it or invite friend join you to 3 some or 4 some it, every time you get reward from defeat it the total world heal of that boss will reduce, make the heal bar about 1000 billion hp and set the event in 2 week, you defeat the boss you earn reward for free (if you can defeat it) the key here make the boss supper strong
W.W. is a bit rough on the U.I hud. Drama video, oh boyyyyy.
They should do like the boss rush mode hsr put out apocalyptic shadow that is a really good really fun mode
They should add a guild house something like PGR, they have the Chibi models so they can use that as our avatars lol and of course building a home with friends is always a good time
Like if your union level is higher than Hex's
Make the phantom rare and random and full level once captured and it will be perfect
Yep. Pgr skins are the highest quality I have ever seen. So i think you can have some exception about skins.
CALCHARO GLASSES BUTLER SKIN
i think its a little Early to be asking for skins, now i agree skins would be amazing but we have to be real here XD. But whos to say maybe they will be nice and Release a skin per patch, who knows. Also they mentioned in the In-game announcement that we are getting 2 new Phantoms, the Lightcrusher, and the Clang Bang, Problem being if the spawns are static. v_v. I wonder if what they could do for the Echo exp is just make the Echo Exp Simulation Training that you get to do once for the Echo Intro Quest but make it permanent instead of a 1 time thing, cause with that instead of getting Echos and Exp like the Tacet field you just get the Echo tubes and no Echos, and it costs 40 Plates instead of 60.
Nice, Jinhsi can have 3 phantoms equipped lmao
"Wuthering Waves could be the best gacha game ever"
No, no it cannot. This game will never be as good as HSR. Then contextualize that around the fact the devs are incompetent and have no idea what they're doing. WuWa is a disgrace to the gacha market.