Hinduism from an Orthodox Christian Perspective | Public Lecture | Part 1 (Lecture)
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- Monk Innocent from Saint Gregory Palamas Monastery gave a lecture last year at Saint Photios Orthodox Theological Seminary that covered the topic of Hinduism from an Orthodox Christian perspective.
During his lecture, Father Innocent gives a history lesson on the origins of Hinduism, what Hindus believe, and why Hinduism conflicts with Orthodox Christianity.
Father Innocent states that through his research of Hinduism, he found that there is a commonality between the beliefs of Hinduism and many modern trends and thinking.
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Again I will Quote a Hymn from RigVeda written more than 2000 BC... And it says about "Light of the Sun" and you will find very close resemblance with what the current speed of Light ( discovered by Danish astronomer Ole Roemer (1644-1710) ).
The hymn goes like below in Sanskrit written in Rig Veda:
"Yojananam Sahastra Dwe Dwe Shate Dwe Cha Yojane Aken Nimishardhena Krammana Namostute."
In this hymn, the author pays respect to the one (apparently, the sunlight, and not the sun) who moves 2202 yojanas in half a nimish.
Now comes the maths part:
1 yojan = 4 kose
1 kose = 8000 British yards
1 British yard = 0.9144 m.
The unit of time nimish is defined in Shrimadbhagwat.
15 nimishas = 1 kashta
15 kashtas = 1 laghu
30 laghus = 1 muhurta
30 muhurtas = 1 diva-ratri
1 diva-ratri is, as the name suggests, one cycle of day and night, that is, 24 hrs.
Therefore, the sunlight travels:
2202 yojanas = 2202*4 = 8808 kose
= 8808*8000 = 70464000 British yards
= 70464000*0.9144 = 64432281 m.
in time interval:
1/2 nimish = 1/30 kashta
= 1/30*1/15 = 1/450 laghu
= 1/450*1/30 = 1/13500 muhurta
= 1/13500*1/30 = 1/405000 diva-ratri
= 1/405000 diva-ratri = 1/405000*24*60*60 s = 0.21333 s.
Therefore, speed of the sunlight, according to the hymn is:
c = 64432281 m/ 0.21333 s
c = 302031036.422 m/s
which is fairly close to the calculated speed of light.
What I would like to infer from this is, ancient Indians had incredible knowledge about astronomy and astronomical calculations. For e.g. Indians knew that the earth was round centuries before Galileo. The hymn definitely speaks volumes about their ability in doing so. It is definitely the work of a genius and should not be written off as a mere coincidence.
Different sources define a "yojana" as ranging from 5 to 9 km, resulting in vastly different total distances when multiplied by the number mentioned in the hymn.
Similarly, the definition of "nimisha" can vary from 1/18th of a second to 1/4th of a second, drastically affecting the calculated time interval.
The calculations often rely on interpretations of these units from later texts like the Shrimadbhagwat, which might not perfectly reflect their usage in the original Rig Veda.
These interpretations have inconsistencies and inaccuracies, leading to unreliable calculations.
Hinduism is a newer term. The Original term is 'Sanatan Dharm'. Hinduism was coined in 712AD, the Muslims invaded the Indus Valley. To distinguish themselves, they called all non-Muslims Hindus.
It is more than 5000 years old.
A good attempt. Very well articulated.
Hindu means geographical identity.
It's unlikely that was the original term. Most probably there wasn't any term at all since there weren't any other people's to differentiate themselves from.
First of all no Aryans came to India on horseback’s from Stepe. This has been debunked properly using archaeology, genetics, texts, astronomy and no evidence of any reference to Stepe Homeland.
Its not debunked it very true we have distinct facial features and body from dravidians, we have different features like aryans mostly have broad forehead ,i like the unity but we are diff also if you know the russian language which is more closer to sanskrit than marathi or hindi ,its indoaryan language ,reals the artic home of the aryans by bal ganagdhar tilak
This is not true at all. Almost every scientific finding supports the indo aryan migration and so do all actual scholars.
Uh, what! It's a fact.
No it hasn't, stop spreading nonsense
I am a Syrian Christian and we are Christians since 52 AD, I am an Indian, we lived peacefully in Kerala and still do, we have been holding important positions and are considered as landed aristocracy and held important positions since then till today in the government and in society, some of the richest Christians in Asia, the Portuguese and the other European invaders were surprised to see us and then the trouble started when they tried to make us Catholics and protestants.
To everyone who's not a Hindu or follows Hinduism in any capacity, just because some imagery is not aesthetic according to our modern standards, it doesn't mean they are demons or evil. In Hinduism, the knowledge of good and evil is not binary. Just because Kali looks dark and scary doesn't mean she's a demon. The point is that Kali represents something "Dark side of anything". It can mean the dark side of Masculine, or feminine. Kali represents Nature in its most brutal form, which doesn't warrant a good-looking picture. Considering pictures are being used as symbols here. In Hinduism, death is not something bad. Death is also bound by the Dharma-Karma cycle and it is just doing its job which is necessary to bring balance to the world. Karma literally means your job (Divine Job). A warrior's karma is to go to battle. A sage = shaman = old wise man's job is to teach and find new ways to expand its knowledge. The job of Kali is to destroy. It's her job in the Universe (Corporate Cosmos, lol. jk) which she is bound to do. She's not doing it out of intention. Scary face /= Scary Philosophy or person
*You've misplaced Dharma(duty/job) with Karma here, but otherwise very well explained!
Hinduism as demonstrated is a foreign word. Iranians coined the word Hindu to refer to people living on and beyond river Sindhu (Indus). Hinduism is no where to be seen in Indian scriptures. Sanatan tradition is used to refer to a canon of ancient scriptures which include multitudes of philosophies. These philosophies try to explain us, life, cosmos etc. Some talk about Paramatma(divine being), ultimate reality, dualism and no belief in supernatural being. You can be an atheist and yet be a Sanatani(now a Hindu)
This is one school of Hindu philosophy. There are others.
Dharma Means Duty of conciousness
I'm surprised and impressed by your efforts to understand Indian philosophy.
Not very accurate, but much better than many mixed up insiders. I appreciate his desire to know and he may do much better if he gets a good guide. I like his frankness that he states that he does not know, when that is the case.
Almost all the people are baffled by seeing Buddha as one of the incarnations of Vishnu. I have done lot of research and Acharya Madhva is a great resource to give the true understanding. Even many followers of Madhva are also confused and think that the historical Gautama Buddha is the one mentioned as the incarnation. But a lot of analysis will lead to the conclusion that the historical Buddha is not the incarnation, but another with the same name, but during the time of Tripurasauras (certain demons), is the incarnation. Note that the religion propounded by Gautama Buddha is atheistic in nature and does not believe in the validity of the Vedas, which propound the greatness of the Supreme Lord.
at 33:10, he was looking for Sanskrit word - it is punarjanma.
Brahmin came from the word brahmand. Brahmin is a person who has knowledge of the brahmhand. Sadly today it is is called a caste.
It is heartening to see this degree of openness whereby an orthodox Christian takes pains to study, understand and explain another set of beliefs namely Hinduism or the Sanatan Dharma. If such were the attitude across the world there would be no strife in the name of religion!
As a Hindu I really like this presentation and the way in which it was presented.
In ancient times, somewhere between modern day India & Pakistan, there were (and still are) 7 rivers in the fertile lands of Punjab and Sind -> Indus, Saraswati, Chenab, Jhelum, Ravi, Sutlej & Beas. Indus was the main river and the rest were its tributaries. Together they were called, in Sanskrit, as Sapta (seven) Sindhu (confluence or where they meet). The peoples that lived on the banks of the rivers of the 'Sapta Sindhu' were called 'Sindhus'. As is typical with adjacent civilizations, words get juxtaposed, and the Persians living next door, pronounced 'Sapta Sindhu' as 'Hepta Hendu". The word 'Hindu' is derived from the Persian 'Hepta Hendu'. The practices followed by the 'Hendus' or the 'Hindus' are referred to, in common parlance, as 'Hinduism'.
True....
That's how educated people describe other religions thank you❤❤
15:27 The fire ritual is worshipping the holy river Ganga at the ghats of Varanasi. It happens around sunrise and sunset everyday.
50.00
'To see things many and different is ignorance and to see them one from many is knowledge'
This tells it all
4:22 1500 years BC is Max Mueller's dating of the RigVeda. When this date was derived, the Age of the Earth was assumed to be just 5000 years old, with the creation event dated to 4004 BC. The age of the Earth is now estimated at 4.55 +/- 0.05 billion years using various radiometric dating methods.
80% were quite accurate. Being a Hindu this is how I would like a foreign know about Hinduism. Few best lecture on Hinduism on TH-cam. Speaker understood core principles and explained those in best possible way.
Exactly.
Jai Sri Mā! I have to say Monk Innocent did a pretty good job explaining Hinduism. He has a lot jumbled together, and there were mistakes, but you know what, I don't care. He came at this in a genuine spirit of trying to understand, and with humility.
I have read and listened to many different Christians from different sects pretend to know what they are saying about Hinduism - just absolutely wrong. Innocent is the first (and will more than likely be the last) Christian I will come across that made a sincere effort and actually grasped some vital, core views of Hinduism.
I pray Sri Mā brings this monk more knowledge of, as well as love and devotion for God.
Jai Sri Mā!
As a native orthodox interested inasian culture, I am extremely grateful that you have done this research and that this is now on-line.
Religious study is so vastly intrleresting, specially if you research one ideology rather than dedicate your existance to only one practice.
VID is Slavic word for Seeing
VEDATI is Slavic word for giving oral knowledge .
Example " PripoVEDATI", where PRI-PO are prefixes, mean something that was known before, PRI ( Prije = Before), was retold
PO ( Poslije= After)
- VEDATI ( VE =Veliko, Vezati = Big, made into pattern) DATI = Given.
PRIPO- VEDKA = Short story
Origin of the word VIDeo - see.
These are all sanskrit words
Slavic is similar to Sanskrit.
Slavic words actually came from sanskrit.....because sanskrit is way older
well, ukrainian,, russian have slavic population, and its found some temples were found in those places earlier than abrahamic people. also 40% russian/ukrainian is sanskrit.
This is the difference between religion of Hindu and other religions that our religion never bound us to strictly believe in one God we have choice to follow any of the way we want and we Hindus also don't stop or force someone to fulfill their beliefs.
In Rigveda they have mentioned river Saraswati which dried up. Scientists have found paleo channels of this river and number of settlements along its bank. Thus many call this Indus Saraswati culture. You can look up Rakhigarhi.
15:44 This ritual is called Aarti, singing praise of god or goddess. This photo is on the Ganga river bank in Kashi/Banares.
The four "Purushartha" of hindu to live a fulfilled life. Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha Plenty of literature available on the same.
A lot of Christians use hindu god /goddess images to shock their audiences. Kali is the favorite. Try Laxmi or Saraswati or Parvati as the other goddesses.
This is a great exploration from an Orthodox Christian and many thanks for a great work done. Most important is not to judge the things from our own perspective, just open mind and seek for the truth.
"Satyam Eva Jayate - truth alone prevail." Namaste..🙏
Jesus is the way, the life and the truth. Yes, seek Truth.
Good effort.
All the best for your pursuit.
सत्यमेवजयते/Only the Truth prevails !!
This video is a drop of an ocean
As an Indian, I applaud your research and open-mindedness
We respect, appreciate and encourage others to have a wholesome, rational analysis of Sanatan with right guidance. Nonetheless this is a good beginning in this regard. This will evolve with time. Best wishes brothers and sisters.
Hindus are believers of multiple daitees. Not fighting for supremacy on other religious group
Thanks alot for clearing it seriously. We are sanatanis.
What an ecplanation, first time I have heard the correct explanation of Dharma.
Nice effort to present Hinduism. As he mentioned, there r tons of things to cover. Mostly, as a information 80% are correct. However, interpretation of few things needs refinement. The most underlying base of Hinduism (Sanatana Dharma) is reincarnation, Atama & Brahman. Hinduism encompasses entire life of a human being. Even more, it relates Self, World & Creator in most logical, developed & enlightened way.
You really scratched the surface very well though. Kudos to that, because others don't even know the surface.
The moment Monk Innocent confessed that most of the material for this presentation came from Western scholars, I was certain that there would be incorrect understanding of rituals and practises and stereotyped distorted articulation of the history of Bharat. Why didn't he take the trouble to talk to practising Hindus living in the US and Canada, so he could have access to the most authentic sources of information ? For information on Christianity people in the West go to sources written by practising Christians, and the same is true for information on Islam and Judaism. Why don't they apply the same criteria when it comes to studying and presenting Hinduism ?
A very excellent attempt to explain Hinduism from a foreign land. by the way for Hinduism, there is no boundaries, world is like a one family . Respect from India.
@15:30 ..
This is called ganga aarti ..
They are worshiping river Ganga.
biggest river in india ..
Hinduism is what Hindus believe or practice
Hindu is person who consider land South of Himalayas and Sindhu (indus) river as land of his ancestors, sacred land
@34:18 I would like to correct that there is specific nature connected to it. What body(weather animal, human etc) the soul takes up depends on your Karma. Ex: If you have been tormenting a particular animal just to derive pleasure out of it's suffering, you will be born as that animal and go through that same pain and learn that you were wrong in doing so... Garuda Purāṇa gives more detail on this concept.
Amazing video essay on Hinduism. Yes, Dharma is very closely related to the concept of Logos. I am enjoying this a lot. There are a couple of places where a deeper inquiry is required but then again even a lot of Hindu scholars don't do a very good job. But this was very well put together.
I'm only at the 12:39 mark of the video so far, but I like this guy's vibe.
Also, you cannot convert to Hinduism. You sort of just pack your bags and start living like a Hindu from any part of India, you're a Hindu then. Hindu consider someone to be religious/spiritual if they are living in accordance with the universal moral principles. Basically, be a good person, don't cheat, don't lie, don't kill unnecessarily, try to care for the jungle and all the beings who don't have a voice in the world as much as you have, do your job, be a good father, mother, sister, friend, brother, son, daughter, respect other religions and faiths, give to poor, increase your knowledge and wisdom, don't harm yourself, etc. If you do this, then you're considered religious. Hinduism is simply a way of life that focuses on a holistic way to live, a balanced way, and sustainability, although people tend to take Hinduism to an extreme and claim it's an organized religion, it's not. There will always be radicals, but to be Hindu is simply to be a good, wise, and moral person, in that way every priest and father who's true to their salt, is also a Hindu. Hinduism advertises harmony. It is pragmatic but people have been making it dogmatic and inaccurate.
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So vivakenanda thought all religions were essentially the same, and he then spread his religion. Makes perfect sense! Thank you for providing this video to us
Nice presentation, enjoyed watching it. Few comments from a practicing Hindu :
Most of the texts converted to English were done by people that did not understand Sanskrit (language of these ancient texts), so lots of miss translations, and miss understanding etc.
Some of those inaccuracies:
1. Multiple Gods : This is the biggest myth 🙂Vedic texts speak about 33 million demi-gods, these are the administrators of the Universe and each universe as it's own set of 33 million demi-gods. The material word as per Vedic texts include the Heavenly planets, Earthly planets and Hellish planets. Beyond these are the spiritual world with multiple planets and One God. That one God appears multiple times when there is a deviation in philosophy over different ages or Yuga's. These avatar's or appearances are misunderstood by the West as multiple God's (or Polytheism). In Hinduism God is not a jealousy God, confirmed in Bhagavad Gita Krsna, even through God is indirectly worshiped, it is not a problem. So paganism is supported as part of your journey to great enlightenment.
2. Democracy : India was always modern 🙂 not just recently, it had advanced democracy & governance, down to the village level, etc. The English absorbed some of this into their administration.
3. Institutions : We have a parampara - unbroken chain of spiritual teachers for the last 5,000 years, so we do have institutions.
4. Ancient worlds : East and West already knew about India, not only since the East India company.
5. Ghee lamps picture : Is called an arati (fire offering) to the sacred river Ganges. Immersing yourself in the river purifies you of your sins, so Ganges is seen in high respect, similar to baptism in water. Hindu's are always taking the opportunity
6. Karma : Picture indicates that Karma leads to repeated birth & suffering in the material world, therefore circle. In Bhagavad Gita, talks about how to break the cycle and go back to Godhead (spiritual world)
7 Time : Time only exists in the material world, not in the spiritual world.
8 Soul : The soul 'always' existed as per Hinduism, we have just temporary fallen down to the material world and taken birth and the body changes from baby, to youth to old age. 🙂 it does not leads to spiritual laziness... but a realization that you wasting your time here and time to go back home. 'Get out logic' is incorrect, salvation means going back home, back to the spiritual world. The 're-absorb' only happens in the material world and purifies your karma and you sent back to the material world, to try again.
Agree with :
1. Agree no Dogma, people in differences walks of life accepted (Yoga ladder, people at difference stages of realization).
2. Thinking that you are God is also seen as 'spiritual darkness' in Hinduism and is a by-product of impersonalism. SO Hare Krishna, do not believe they are God.
Well done father innocent, very helpful in understanding the ” Hindu “ way!
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing
Nice effort to present Hinduism (Sanaathana Dharma).
Atheist,monotheist,polythiest every comes under the umbrella of Hindu dharma but everybody either they follow vedanta,advait vedanta, either they believe in god or not but they do beleive in Vedas except charbak darshan who only beleive what they can see nothing else they are like on the peak of materialism, although in the charwak darshan there are two sides in that some beleive that we are composition of five material kshiti(soil), jal(water),pawak(fire),gagan(air), Samira (cosmos,space,nothingness)
It's great video.
I am a hindu
The Persian or Mughal invader & traders started calling people stay near Sindhu River as Hindus bcoz of the pronouncing issue and the Greek since Herodotus (5th century BCE) started calling Indus river again pronouncing issue hence Sindhu become Indus Valley civilization so the name India was given by Britisher the Real and Ancient Name of India is Bharat The name Bharat is derived from the legendary King Bharat
historical evidences are bout 5000 years old . But no one knows its origin and like who started this religion. This is why we Hindu people call our religion to be the ''sanatan dharma'' or the eternal religion . This i the most scientific religion which talks about many modern scientific theories like time dilation , gravity , multiverse and many more . our religious texts had predicted about the birth of lord buddha about 4000 years before he actually took birth. In Hinduism lord buddha is the 9th incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Jainsim , Buddhism and sikhism are all a part of Sanantan Dharma only.
Could we possibly have another talk on Hinduism by Monk Innocent. I found this talk very interesting indeed. My friend is exploring Hindu ideas so this is quite relevant to the dialogue I've had with him as an Orthodox Christian
I had no idea that the transcendentalist writers were inspired by Indian scriptures. Makes perfect sense to me now.
Great! I am Hindu and I thought it was obvious to everyone. It's fascinating to find out that it's not common knowledge. In that case, I'd suggest you read The Life Divine by Sri Aurobindo, you'll realize that the entire lexicon, lingo of transcendentalism was inspired by Hinduism, and the later ones, more specifically by Sri Aurobindo. Thank you!
Hindu philosophy is not just in one book or school. In hindu dharma some hindu will follow vedant some will follow advait vedanta.
*Hindu dharm is not a religion it's the way of life,duty towards society, responsibility of family,duty of the position.*
That's your narrative..We respect your right to have your own narrative. We just don't buy that.
It is a religion and also a way of life. How would you define a religion and a way of life?
I disagree sir. Hinduism is a religion. Albeit not in the Abrahamic sense. Besides being a way of life, it is more a philosophy of life. Whereas Abrahamic religions are in more ways "way of life" as they have iron cast set of "commandments ". There are no commandments in Hinduism. It has multiple philosophies. It is upto the individual to choose his/her philosophy of life
Thank U, Infinite Intelligence 🙏
The name Hindu is as per the Avesta language version of Sindhu which is the river that existed long ago where the Indus Valley Civilization thrived.
I think there is a lot to respect in Hinduism just as there is in another pagan family of traditions among Greek philosophers and spiritual masters. It is true that there are some things within it that are just “off” enough to be risky unless handled with extreme care.
Prostrations to Father Innocent for his efforts on understanding Hinduism and hard work that went into this presentation🙇♀️🙏
Important point was made about the "Error of the devil" . What takes out the dangerousness is the renunciation of ego that happens in Jivanmukta(Free while alive) Saints... by which no particular consequence that looks to preserve the Self remains. Like science, if there is some pending past bad/good karma a bad/good consequence has to happen , so be it. When no desires remain, no past actions remain to get any consequence for, there is 100% purity and no need for rebirth. Thus such a saint is as harmless as a newborn kitten. Such a saint is unable to even claim that he is Free/Realised. So if we come across one who claims to be God, he maybe at an advanced stage but not fully free... he may learn and one day proceed to be Free.
That’s what I think he meant by the admirable ascetic practices he learned about. I’ve understood the Orthodox Church to see any practice of forgetting self interest as healthy. But I believe I have heard Orthodox apologists say that a critical difference between our saints who live self-less lives in the name of Christ, and others who practice the same rigorous ego-leveling for a non-Christian purpose, is that Christianity involves a personal God.
Our God is simultaneously the God of all creation and present everywhere, while also being completely human, just like us, with a very human capacity for love and suffering. He lived at a real time among Jews about 2000 years ago but yet loves each and every one of us more than our own parents or spouses could.
So ascetic practices without this level of personal love could still be seen as dangerous even though they are void of self-interest, because we not only want to leave this cyclical world, but we believe that it’s creator came into it so we could come out and onto something greater.
Very well articulated. You have Humility.
A very good portrayal of Hinduism from a Non Hindu. Thanks.
Old Slavic and Sanscrit are not only very similar in words meaning and grammar but also believe in Trinity ...
Vishnu= Višnji ( High)
Brahman=Brana (Defend/ Preserve) ,
Shiva= Živa ( Life )
PS . Živa is also name for mercury .
Ortdox Christianity is called PRAVO-SLAVLJE, which means Right Celebration/ Glorification of God.
At 55:00 Swami Vivekananda is the inspiration for current prime minister of India, Shri Narendra Modi.
Great, you have learned more and gave good lecture in
good form. Thank u sir
Beautifully explained, given the constraints…the basics are quite correct
👌👍✌️A very great job. Amazing
15.27min. This is river worship. Rivers are divine because they provide water.
Really surprised to see orthodox Christian perspective on Hinduism. Wondering what future will uncover about the past. As a student of western philosophy, Hinduism goes all encompassing without any single focus and form. As a Hindu, Hindu principles are realised well by its people but the practice is forever ill.
The guy had an impossible task. A+ for effort. It is impossible to explain Sanatan Dharma in a few minutes. Lots of words/notions just gets messed up due to translation even today.
thank you for your efforts in understanding😊.. greetings from sanatanis..🙏
I have read that the Persians replaced the S in the Sindhu river, with an H, as they often did in their language, which is how it became Hindu.
Shruti, means "to listen", which was the medium of receiving education in the olden times in Bhaaratha. Smriti, means "to recall", which is bound to be more erroneous than a direct teaching.
Of course, the person delivering the knowledge is also doing so from "Smriti", but that is Krushna or Shankara themselves.
Translating these words to non-Indian languages is difficult due to the massive difference in concepts of morality and society in their places of use.
I love your explanation. You have simplified it.keep up the good work. May be look at it from extenslism.
A surprisingly accurate take on Hindu beliefs for an outsider.
Orthodox r good scholars & had a culture of Monkhood from ancient times, they are not like Catholics.
There are some artefacts that have been found in Indus Valley(Harappa) Civilisation point to presence of thoughts and rituals found in modern Sanatani (Hindu) philosophies. This makes Sanatan(Hindu) tradition at least as old as 5000 years old. There are indications from more recent excavations that it could be as old as 10000 years old.
Appreciated👏.
Pastor has a sound knowledge of our religion and he is correct on 90% areas.
The indian emblem of 4 headed animal with wheels on 4sides bring to mind the throne of God mentioned in Rev
I read a comment on how old any religion is, be it Islam, Buddhism or Christianity ; however God created the universe so nothing can be older than Him.
I am in awe of the speaker. When will all humans be United in the Religion of Humanity?
Wow. Amazing talk. Thank you.
Fair and good attempt at the presentation
The monstrous look of Hindu gods mostly comes from the coloring and multiple arms and heads along with facial poses.
The coloring indicates a thematic implication for the god in question, the faces and arms represent the multiple spacial and temporal manifestations these beings can assume, transcending time and space. The facial expression on Kali is a mythoreprrsentation of a scorned wife....so pretty accurate.
Though it appears foreign, the Hindi attempted to create visual representations of universal beings by creating multitudinous art, this translated to their architecture as well. The occidental answer to this was to not create an effigy of God at all. I think both approached are to be appreciated. God is entirely unknowable especially through a visible representation. Nonetheless the Hindu effort is aweinspiring and paradoxes can point to the infinite quite effectively.
God is knowable through the incarnation of the Second Person of the most Holy Trinity, the Son, the Theanthropos God-man Jesus Christ.
Religion is a pious way to God, but God is unknown & unknowable, religion teaches morals. This is a world of science which accepts what's proven. The hard question of consciousness is still not convincingly settled by science as yet but the perspectives on brhaman is dealt at length by the wisdom enshrined in vedanta of sanatana Dharma
Greatly explained! I'm saving this reply for myself 😊
Thank u for taking interest in Sanatan Dharma (so called Hinduism) which has philosophy of “Vasudhev Kutumbakam ie Whole world is family:)
thank you for the hard work of presenting difficult to grasp subject of Upanishads.
I was given a book called "the orthodox way" and it compared the trinity to how Hindus view brahma,very interesting
Is it the book by Bishop Kallistos Ware? I'd love to check it out.
There's a lot of common in Hinduism and pre-Islamic Arab Paganism and ancient Paganism in Turkey, Iran, some parts of UK ( Wales, Ireland? ). It is also believed that the Hindu-Pagan influence extended all the way to Egypt and also the modern day Americas. We know how Egypt transitioned from Polytheism to Monotheism and rest is history.
In Sanskrit Brahma is considered as the Creator and Brahman is considered as pure formless mesh / membrane of consciousness. We can relate it to the white noise that pervades this universe. Many believe that "A"Brahmic were a tribe who preferred ideology opposite to the "Brahmic" beliefs. In Sanskrit, when you add "A" before a word, it means negation of the word or opposite of the word. More detailed research maybe needed on these though.
There is nothing like Trinity in vedas
This holy man does not know about Rakhigarhi excavations that nullify Aryan connection to Central Asia.
I am sure it must have taken a lot of time and effort to understand and synthesize what a religion like Santayana Dharma. Congratulations! on your research, learnings and humbleness.
A few pointers to think about:
The concept of rebirth “leads to idleness, spiritual laziness, and despair”. Oh oh! depression is a big problem in the west, not as much in Asia/India/Nepal. The way of living has a quite a bit to do with not being despaired. Generally Hindu seekers are non-despair by definition. If they are then they are either still seeking/learning.
More importantly, I find the logic silly. Because there is this birth cycle, I must have been born so many times did my stuff (eat, sleep, cry, laugh, sex, acquire, and sue). How many more times should I do this? Is there a way to break the cycle? Santayana Dharma says ‘Yes’…andyou have to seek and practice quite a bit. No time for laziness.
Also it is interesting that all such study’s objective to help the orthodox church to be ready to answer not so inclined Hindu questions and convert.
Excellent
😜👍. all I can say for the time being. So thanks for the good lecture. 😊
Very well informed introduction;however, the "dharma" part surface level activities description. Need to go a little deeper on dharma and Sanskrit language itself to understand that mandala. The word dharma's root is "Dhri' or "dharana", basically "current", "stream", "aim", or "tuned towards", or like a sword, or a knife - that "cutting".
We as a human being is mind based "imaginative" current that's based on "shabda brahma" or words. These words are "nada" or sound. Like Krishna playing a flute, we are like a flute who get played by sound and we dance or live a life with such a deterministic holdings based on total dance or "nama" and "roopa" - names and forms. That's our reality. We cannot utter beyond "m" the last step of vocals. "A" as in aum is that one sound which traverses without intervention of our muscles. Imagine, the space in a cup. That space is a continuation of the entire space.
And now, who's the sayer, imaginor, the one who makes Sense? MUA, the I! Thus, I and God is same same.
It's a symbolic representation of how we actually operate. And nothing more or less.
When logic, meanings from sound has been trained in a human animal, they can be milked.
Forgive me for saying this but Christianity is the perfect working example in practice in the Karma field of Hinduism.
Christians are engaged in karma yoga,
Islam in highest bhakti yoga,
Buddhists are engaged in dhyaan yoga, and Hindus incorporating all 4 - dharma, Artha, kaam, moksha - for the best, smooth flow of a life, in peaceful, non violent, non angry, fair, crossing of the mind, of one, one's family, society, nation, and the world 🙏
This was very enriching. Thank you
Sir.....I must say you have a true and honest depiction of Hinduism....lot of effort and unbiased approach to understand....one of the oldest religion .....we are truly thankful you ...
The monk should not put Aryan Invasion and Indus Valley Civilisation in the same time period. The mature Bronze Age Indus Valley Civilisation is dated to be between 2500 BC and 1900 BC. Aryan Invasion is claimed to have happened in 1500 BC.
Good attempt at what you did!
This shows that the West has so much to learn about Bharat and Sanatan Dharm, they have just scratched the surface but I'd say keep digging, someday you might get there.
He understood very well...good job sir 🙏
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There are 3 main Gods in Hinduism: Brahma (Creator), Vishnu (Manager), and Shiva (Destroyer) & 3 Main Goddesses, Saraswati (Wife of Brahma, Goddess of knowledge and wisdom), Laxmi (Wife of Vishnu, Goddess of wealth and prosperity), and Shakti/Parvati (Wife of Shiva, Goddess of Strength & Power).
God and Goddess in Hinduism are complementary opposites. Masculine & Feminine. Yin-Yang.
The idea of 330 million Gods isn't necessarily true. Although people do believe in that idea but it's mostly an expression of the creativity of different sages and scholars who tried to capture the essence of something as a God.
The 10 Avatars of Vishnu predated Charles Darwin by several millennia and essentially talk about the divinity of creation and all the creatures that evolved across time.
Excellent introduction to hinduism. The central idea in hinduism aka sanatan dharma is enlightenment, there are multitude of practices and philosophies, often conflicting as it depends upon individual temperament.
.....yeah ,quite nice ........
Before himduism it was Sanatana Dharma. Sanatana Dharma was believing one God that is Brahman.... But later hindus brought in all types of gods with different statues. The todays hinduism is different from the early hinduism. In old hinduism that is Sanatana Dharma, there were no statues.....