Steve Kloepping You're not kidding. at 3:05 when I saw him knock Deac, the Secretary Of Defense, flat on his ass, I thought man, you can count on one hand the number of guys in the league who were able to do that.
Forrest Gregg was a one-of-a-kind talent. He would knock you down, help you up, smile at you, cook you dinner, chaperone your daughters to prom, and do the dishes....all during the pre-snap
I was a Tom Landry-era Dallas Cowboys fan, so obviously I'm aware this great player AND the great team that he played for broke my heart many times. He even played for the Cowboys at the end of his career, and he was STILL great then. R.I.P. Forrest Gregg. God bless our NFL heroes from a bygone era.🏈
@@muckmire3716No, but he did coach 10 hall of famers, and that doesnt include Jerry Kramer and Dave Robinson, who should both be in the Hall too. So Lombardi knew what true greatness looked like. You also have one of the best 5 defensive players who ever lived talking Gregg up in this video and he rarely talked anyone up. That only gives further creedence to Lombardi's claim. Thats how good Gregg really was.
Forrest Gregg was a "crisp" lineman because he was technically-sound AND had the athletic ability to back it up. As the great Deacon Jones said, he's the kind of a guy you needed to bring a large lunch pail to work when he was lined up against you.
at this point in Deacon's life he was certifiably insane and would have conversations with Squirrels on his property claiming they were undermining capitalism
Many here might not be old enough to appreciate Gregg. Her was so good that he would stand out in a game unlike other offensive lineman. Kinda like Ray Guy did punting. We use to watch TV looking forward to those kind of guys.
So crazy back in the day the linemen blocked effectively with their forearms. Today they hold onto the pads. It’s beautiful seeing how the game evolves
I'll bet Deacon and alot of those other old timers would play forever if they could. You can tell how much they loved it and how much it meant to them. It was their life.
That is the thing about those Packers of that era,they were good up front and in their blocking schemes so that was the foundation of their championship years.
it all starts up front, and those packers teams had a great front line. if deacon jones says you were the best, who's going to argue? and i had forgot all about elijah pitts until this footage, super versatile back for those great teams.
He is my great uncle. He never really wanted to be included with the family my dad says. I personally never met him but I have his high school football picture. I wish I could see him. He is a football legend and a great player, Rest In Peace
Lombardi...Starr..Kramer...Gregg...Taylor...Hornung...Nitschke...Davis... ...Adderley...Thurston...Dowler...McGee...Wood...Jordan...Ringo..HOF'S &All-Pro's...GREAT team on offense AND defense!!! ...
Deacon Jones is SO GRACIOUS to speak so favorably and admirably about the guys that he warred against season after season! Thank you, Deacon Jones. (Jones himself is #15 on this list: th-cam.com/video/OqcmuCcwCiU/w-d-xo.html)
Forrest Gregg graduated from Sulphur Springs High School in Sulphur Springs, Texas. He was a classmate of my mother’s, an athlete scholar, and a great kid of the highest moral character. They dated socially a few times; they were classmates and platonic friends. He went to SMU and mom went to East Texas State, where she met and married my dad. She admired his kindness, his focus, his determination and his work ethic. As she followed his career and life in the media, she taught me that he set the example for a life of excellence, kindness, fidelity and fulfillment. To that, I can only say AMEN!!! Rest In Peace, kind sir!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas. 🤠
Wow! I literally JUST commented on a video how I hadn't seen a single offensive lineman in the dozens of videos I had watched so far and here's the first one I've seen so far. 👍
Unfortunately Anthony Munoz hates Forrest Gregg because they were involved in a property line dispute in which both their properties touched. Anthony Munoz was insistent on growing a Jackfruit tree but Forrest Gregg wouldn't approve his property being transformed to resemble a property in the middle of the jungle, where the Jackfruit grows.
At the 2:16 mark we see Bob Skoronoski #76 catch Taylor about 30 yards downfield to throw another block and help Taylor get to the end zone. That whole line was as exceptional. Also worth noting is that the rules on holding were MUCH stricter in those days. Linemen couldn't extend their arms (or grab d-lineman inside) like they do now. With all of the rules changes to help the offense since the 60s, that is the one that is mentioned least, but might be as responsible as any for the offensive explosion that we see today.
Remember kids, Forrest Gregg played in a time where if the arms were out, that was a penalty. Vince Lombardi said that Forrest was the best player he ever coached. If an opposing player who was a great one, such as Deacon Jones, said Forrest was one of the best he ever went against.
@C-manz_69 It was an TERRIFIC foursome. Skoronski, Gregg, Thurston, and Jerry Kramer. Jim Ringo later Bill Curry at center and Ron Kramer later Marv Fleming at TE. Lombardi's "D" played all out, all the time, as they were well rested. Ball control offense and time of possession do that for you.
My favorite Forrest Gregg story is from the SMU pony excess 30 for 30. In the locker room at halftime against Notre Dame he tries rallying the team up and asks them does anyone here think we can’t beat these guys and one of the players raises his hand and says coach I don’t think we can beat these guys. Everytime I hear that I can’t help but laugh
they just do not block like this anymore, watch the old stuff and you see some awesome blocks downfield now they like to block standing up. if you understand what i mean.
mel bias , yeah, it's phenomenal how you'll see footage of offense linemen from the 50s, 60s and 70s blocking 20 yards downfield in front of the running backs. We don't see that as much since the passing game has exploded in the post-West Coast offense era. But we do see more wide receivers dedicated to blocking for the run it seems. John Madden used to say whenever you see a big run you'll have WRs making blocks downfield.
The play shown around 1:59 is not the Lombardi Sweep, even though that’s what he is describing. Gregg only pulled on the toss play to the fullback, not on the hand-off sweep to the halfback. Surprised NFL Films got this wrong.
@@maxazzopardi7446 can you in layman's terms break it down even more for me.if possible... I never played organized football but I been watching the NFL since 1985 Bears year of domination.
That was Dick LeBeau??? Looked more like the HS player that didn't like contact. Thanks for the ID, I couldn't figure out who that was. Still hard to believe that was LeBeau, he must of had the flu.
love to be a coach today i find athletic blockers and pull and move the pocket around .. screen passes .. move around . he should be a blocking coach . haha.
fundamentally sound. something that today's athletes in almost any sport seriously lack. If these guys had all the privileges that athletes have today such as sports medicine, more advanced coaching, advanced equipment, going to competitive sports camps at young ages, there are gyms all over now compared to back then just for the average person, not to mention being extremely overpaid and over appreciated by society, and all the other goodies and treats they get now, the guys back then would be 4 times the athletes that are today. seriously cause most of these guys who played then and even before that fought in wars and still managed to come back and play, some even had to have side jobs because the league was not paying them that much... not to mention most of them grew up on farms or in the ghetto and had jobs all through high school just to get them into pro ball. people talk a lot of smack about these guys back then now, but they were better athletes, had way more grit and determination, and played the games fundamentally, the way it's supposed to be played and they did it with practically nothing compared to what they have got today. the modern athlete in america is the biggest gimmick a human society has ever produced in mankinds entire history. they get paid millions now to throw a ball around and they think they are something special. The older guys new they were just humans like everyone else and most of them had the humility to realize that because they all came from poor backgrounds and had to work for what they had. unlike athletes today.
Grett #54. Har, har, har. My friend has a phrase appropriate for this. 'Recency Bias'. If there is an offensive tackle above Gregg, the list is BULL$$it.
He shouldn't have left Cincinnati he led them to the super bowl! I can understand why he wanted to go back to green bay because of sentimental feelings ! But he had Ken Anderson, Anthony Munoz , and many other pro bowl players !
Forrest Gregg died today (April 12, 2019) at the age of 85. An icon of the sport who will never be forgotten.
Probably playing football in Heaven with all the greats. You know it's in their blood. They only quit playing because their bodies were tired.
I know Bart Starr, Jim Taylor, Paul Hornung, and Forrestt Gregg are running the power sweep up in heaven, as we speak!
The doctor said Forrest Gregg's last words were "the jews are the cause of all the wars in the world" then winked his left eye followed by soon dying
When Deacon Jones approves of Gregg, no more need be said. When Lombardi praises him, no questions need be posed.
A f'ing men brother.
Truth. Well said.
When I saw it was Deacon, I had to watch.
i think he's real good to.
Deacon Jones knows offensive tackles as well as anybody. He likes Gregg. Cool!
You know if Deacon Jones has high praise for him then he was a hell of a player.
Steve Kloepping You're not kidding. at 3:05 when I saw him knock Deac, the Secretary Of Defense, flat on his ass, I thought man, you can count on one hand the number of guys in the league who were able to do that.
One finger.
mortensen1961 No doubt.
Steve Kloepping “
@@Terribleathletes That was just like when Larry Allen pancaked Reggie White exactly like that.
Rest In Peace to a legend and the greatest player Lombardi ever coached
Rest in Peace, Sir
According to the doctor Forrest's last words were "may the world burn"
2:13 - That's a hell of a second and third effort by #76 Bob Skoronski. Especially if you look to see where he lined up at the beginning of the play.
Yeah, I saw that too yelling in the middle of the night, Look at Ski !! Funny BC I was a Rams fan. #CoachesKid
Incredible effort!
It is so hard when all your childhood heroes start dying one after another. RIP Forrest. a true champion at football and life.
Neal M
I TOTALLY agree. This makes me sad.🏈
You have to believe that if it is possible to play football where they are now, they probably would. God bless them.
It is so great to see people educated on the incredible unsung talent needed to play the blocking positions.
Forrest Gregg was a one-of-a-kind talent. He would knock you down, help you up, smile at you, cook you dinner, chaperone your daughters to prom, and do the dishes....all during the pre-snap
R.I.P Decan jones
Jim Rome had him on his show on a consistent basis, and Deacon was a great man to listen to.
Yep...when Deacon Jones says you were the best, you know you were the best.
And now RIP Forrest Gregg.
RIP, Forrest. One of the greatest lineman to ever play the game. Incredible football player!
"He was the best Drive Blocker I've ever seen" from Deacon Jones tells you everything you need to know about Forrest Grett.
And yet they barely showed him drive blocking lol. It was all pass block and pulling.
I was a Tom Landry-era Dallas Cowboys fan, so obviously I'm aware this great player AND the great team that he played for broke my heart many times. He even played for the Cowboys at the end of his career, and he was STILL great then. R.I.P. Forrest Gregg.
God bless our NFL heroes from a bygone era.🏈
Gregg is too low. Lombardi called him "the greatest football player I ever coached" That should speak volumes.
Xavier Vega Yeah but Art Shell and Anthony Munoz are with out a doubt the best left tackles in the HISTORY of the NFL
You are missing Jim Parker PROTECTING Unitas' blind side. I'm taking nothing away fro Munoz and Shell, but Parker taught them the way.
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In your opinion.
It means he didnt coach all the great players. That is all.
@@muckmire3716No, but he did coach 10 hall of famers, and that doesnt include Jerry Kramer and Dave Robinson, who should both be in the Hall too. So Lombardi knew what true greatness looked like. You also have one of the best 5 defensive players who ever lived talking Gregg up in this video and he rarely talked anyone up. That only gives further creedence to Lombardi's claim. Thats how good Gregg really was.
Deacon Jones knew what he was talking about, from first hand experience; his approval is worth a lot, as is Lombardi's of course
Forrest Gregg was a "crisp" lineman because he was technically-sound AND had the athletic ability to back it up. As the great Deacon Jones said, he's the kind of a guy you needed to bring a large lunch pail to work when he was lined up against you.
at this point in Deacon's life he was certifiably insane and would have conversations with Squirrels on his property claiming they were undermining capitalism
Many here might not be old enough to appreciate Gregg. Her was so good that he would stand out in a game unlike other offensive lineman. Kinda like Ray Guy did punting. We use to watch TV looking forward to those kind of guys.
"A seal here" aka Forrest Gregg. Damn, he served the great Deacon Jones pancakes at 3:12 lol
this dude was fast AF for a lineman
boy howdy!
He was a light weight linemen good for pulling even though he was a tackle they used him on sweeps he was like a dual threat player
they said he was the guy that made it work . best athlete on the team .
How about # 76 running downfield @2:18 ?! Wow
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Light weight? You mean not a fattass like today's NFL linemen.🏈
So crazy back in the day the linemen blocked effectively with their forearms. Today they hold onto the pads. It’s beautiful seeing how the game evolves
For someone as great as Deacon Jones to give praise like that I am very impressed.
Much Respect from Raider Nation.
RN4L.
I'll bet Deacon and alot of those other old timers would play forever if they could. You can tell how much they loved it and how much it meant to them. It was their life.
Back in the days when offensive lineman could only use the chicken wing blocking technique.
That is the thing about those Packers of that era,they were good up front and in their blocking schemes so that was the foundation of their championship years.
Did y'all see Deke try that head slap, and Gregg responding, "whatever?"
it all starts up front, and those packers teams had a great front line. if deacon jones says you were the best, who's going to argue? and i had forgot all about elijah pitts until this footage, super versatile back for those great teams.
Pitts. A decent back... but still a "backup".🏈
If I were a coach today, I would use aspects of the 60s Packers & 70-80s Steelers run game & San Francisco's 80s passing game.
Walsh ran the Lombardi sweep with the Niners.
You know what , we talk about the Cowboys line of the 90's and present, but the packers have a great oline as well
That entire offensive line in GB was wildly talented but Forrest may have been better then them all.
No doubt, you can run the ball with Skoronski, Gregg, Thurston, and Kramer.
He is my great uncle. He never really wanted to be included with the family my dad says. I personally never met him but I have his high school football picture. I wish I could see him. He is a football legend and a great player, Rest In Peace
04/12/19, RIP to one of the greats.
Run Forrest, run!
The 60's packers were the absolute greatest team ever, and greatest dynasty ever. 7 HOF'ers!
Lombardi...Starr..Kramer...Gregg...Taylor...Hornung...Nitschke...Davis...
...Adderley...Thurston...Dowler...McGee...Wood...Jordan...Ringo..HOF'S &All-Pro's...GREAT team on offense AND defense!!!
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DrNuggetFTW actually its 11 including lombardi
DrNuggetFTW 50s browns tho 10 straight championships almost as good as todays browns
DrNuggetFTW plus 5 NFL CHAMPIONSHIPS before Super bowls!
You can add Jerry Kramer to that list too
R.I.P to a legend 🙏🧀
RIP. He was so great, in a time when football players were really a different breed.
Deacon Jones is SO GRACIOUS to speak so favorably and admirably about the guys that he warred against season after season! Thank you, Deacon Jones. (Jones himself is #15 on this list: th-cam.com/video/OqcmuCcwCiU/w-d-xo.html)
Wow when Deacon Jones talks like this about a guy that is the highest praise.
Forrest Gregg graduated from Sulphur Springs High School in Sulphur Springs, Texas. He was a classmate of my mother’s, an athlete scholar, and a great kid of the highest moral character. They dated socially a few times; they were classmates and platonic friends. He went to SMU and mom went to East Texas State, where she met and married my dad. She admired his kindness, his focus, his determination and his work ethic. As she followed his career and life in the media, she taught me that he set the example for a life of excellence, kindness, fidelity and fulfillment. To that, I can only say AMEN!!! Rest In Peace, kind sir!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas. 🤠
Charles Knight nicely said.
SS Beau ... Thank you, kind sir!!! God bless you!!! Chuck Knight. 🤠
Rest In Power Forrest!!!! You Deserve To Be In The Hall Of Fame Sir. Yes Indeed. Number 75.
R.I.P.
Wow! I literally JUST commented on a video how I hadn't seen a single offensive lineman in the dozens of videos I had watched so far and here's the first one I've seen so far. 👍
I would like to have seen Anthony Munoz talk about him as well because he perfected his moves.
Unfortunately Anthony Munoz hates Forrest Gregg because they were involved in a property line dispute in which both their properties touched. Anthony Munoz was insistent on growing a Jackfruit tree but Forrest Gregg wouldn't approve his property being transformed to resemble a property in the middle of the jungle, where the Jackfruit grows.
Unsung heroes the linemen
Deacon jones is good enough to say it
I saw him at Christmas Mass in Cincy. I had hoped to make his acquaintance in Colorado Springs where we once again were fellow denizens.
At the 2:16 mark we see Bob Skoronoski #76 catch Taylor about 30 yards downfield to throw another block and help Taylor get to the end zone. That whole line was as exceptional. Also worth noting is that the rules on holding were MUCH stricter in those days. Linemen couldn't extend their arms (or grab d-lineman inside) like they do now. With all of the rules changes to help the offense since the 60s, that is the one that is mentioned least, but might be as responsible as any for the offensive explosion that we see today.
Remember kids, Forrest Gregg played in a time where if the arms were out, that was a penalty.
Vince Lombardi said that Forrest was the best player he ever coached. If an opposing player who was a great one, such as Deacon Jones, said Forrest was one of the best he ever went against.
nothing is better than the packer sweep, now that's football! that's how you execute a play.
I don't understand why they don't run that play anymore.
flyboy7588 Greenbay does run it or variations occasionally. They tend to use the vintage slant rout more than anything though
because they never had a forrest gregg caliber player is years! lol
Badass tackle
R.I.P
Kramer and Gregg. Wow
@C-manz_69 It was an TERRIFIC foursome. Skoronski, Gregg, Thurston, and Jerry Kramer. Jim Ringo later Bill Curry at center and Ron Kramer later Marv Fleming at TE.
Lombardi's "D" played all out, all the time, as they were well rested. Ball control offense and time of possession do that for you.
Downright awesome
Should be higher tbh
He played at a small high school that played 6 man football. I imagine he terrorized those high school players.
How many great/HOF players, NFL or MLB, went on to become great or even really good coaches/managers? Gregg is one of the few.
My favorite Forrest Gregg story is from the SMU pony excess 30 for 30. In the locker room at halftime against Notre Dame he tries rallying the team up and asks them does anyone here think we can’t beat these guys and one of the players raises his hand and says coach I don’t think we can beat these guys. Everytime I hear that I can’t help but laugh
they just do not block like this anymore, watch the old stuff and you see some awesome blocks downfield now they like to block standing up. if you understand what i mean.
mel bias , yeah, it's phenomenal how you'll see footage of offense linemen from the 50s, 60s and 70s blocking 20 yards downfield in front of the running backs. We don't see that as much since the passing game has exploded in the post-West Coast offense era. But we do see more wide receivers dedicated to blocking for the run it seems. John Madden used to say whenever you see a big run you'll have WRs making blocks downfield.
Another reason for Gregg's success was due to his work ethic.
Forrest Gregg and Jerry Kramer the best at creating the alley from Lombardi's Packer sweep.
The play shown around 1:59 is not the Lombardi Sweep, even though that’s what he is describing. Gregg only pulled on the toss play to the fullback, not on the hand-off sweep to the halfback. Surprised NFL Films got this wrong.
Insane that this Man played in the Ice Bowl and Coached in the Freezer Bowl! I bet he could have fought a Grizzly Bear and win!😂
From tiny Birthright, Tx. Population... about 125 people when he was born. Right down the highway from where Don Meredith was from.🏈
R.I.P. He coached the Bengals to a Superbowl appearance. Not an easy feat.
IMHO, the best three OTs in history are: Forrest Gregg, Anthony Munoz and Jim Tyrer.
King Bee you mean jim parker?
Nah, I meant Tyrer...but I forgot about the Colts' Parker. Make that four, IMHO-Parker an All-Pro at LT and LG!
Keep your eye on the young 49ers tackle Trent Brown, lets see if he develops into something special
King Bee jim parker??? John hannah
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He won't last. NONE of today's NFL players do.
Aside from Vince Lombardi, there could be no higher compliment given to an offensive lineman than high praise from Deacon Jones.
What's the music in the begging of the video?
The legendary Packer sweep revolutionized the game. No one ever thought to run the ball outside the center before.
totally agree. one of the most complex plays ever. do we go right or left? so deep in complextity and brilliance.
@@maxazzopardi7446 can you in layman's terms break it down even more for me.if possible... I never played organized football but I been watching the NFL since 1985 Bears year of domination.
2:37 look at the corner of his mouth
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Lombardi said he was the greatest player he ever coached, that as high a compliment as you can get
if the greatest coach of all time said so..................
Enough said.
That is Crazzy
the Kathy Goodman Show ! (kathy says more research is needed on those artifacts !)
1:40
What a football player used to look like.
he own decon
That didn't happen often.
mortensen1961 Actually
Who is the Lions player at 2:20? Same-O-Lions!
David M That was Dick LeBeau
That was Dick LeBeau??? Looked more like the HS player that didn't like contact. Thanks for the ID, I couldn't figure out who that was. Still hard to believe that was LeBeau, he must of had the flu.
drive blocker???coach too
And that's what put him in Canton
Decon Jones
Praise from Deacon Jones… doesn’t get more legit than that… well deserved.
Just give us nothing but this. No fluff talk, nothing but players making real football discussion.
Rip
Little did deacon jones know he had about three years left to live
love to be a coach today i find athletic blockers and pull and move the pocket around .. screen passes .. move around . he should be a blocking coach . haha.
Run forest run...
Deacon wore 75 too
i think they could whoop teams today i bet ,,. one play that was 50 plays .. how i would coach . so many plays but options and adjustments .
Vince Lombardi called Forrest Gregg the best player he ever coached.
He went to my high school
Forrest Gump could run at Alabama
greenbay needs to bring him back from the dead
fundamentally sound. something that today's athletes in almost any sport seriously lack. If these guys had all the privileges that athletes have today such as sports medicine, more advanced coaching, advanced equipment, going to competitive sports camps at young ages, there are gyms all over now compared to back then just for the average person, not to mention being extremely overpaid and over appreciated by society, and all the other goodies and treats they get now, the guys back then would be 4 times the athletes that are today. seriously cause most of these guys who played then and even before that fought in wars and still managed to come back and play, some even had to have side jobs because the league was not paying them that much... not to mention most of them grew up on farms or in the ghetto and had jobs all through high school just to get them into pro ball. people talk a lot of smack about these guys back then now, but they were better athletes, had way more grit and determination, and played the games fundamentally, the way it's supposed to be played and they did it with practically nothing compared to what they have got today. the modern athlete in america is the biggest gimmick a human society has ever produced in mankinds entire history. they get paid millions now to throw a ball around and they think they are something special. The older guys new they were just humans like everyone else and most of them had the humility to realize that because they all came from poor backgrounds and had to work for what they had. unlike athletes today.
Games should be played outdoors on natural turf. Get a little muddy!
Are you kidding me you got him infront of singletary, earl Campbell, Tony dorsett who's doing the list
Grett #54. Har, har, har. My friend has a phrase appropriate for this. 'Recency Bias'. If there is an offensive tackle above Gregg, the list is BULL$$it.
1st
Parkinson's. ??CTE. Make it with your BRAIN, kiddees...Be a Brain Surgeon!!
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He was a terrible coach
Probably because he was great that it's impossible to convey that kind of excellence when you do it without thinking.
He shouldn't have left Cincinnati he led them to the super bowl! I can understand why he wanted to go back to green bay because of sentimental feelings ! But he had Ken Anderson, Anthony Munoz , and many other pro bowl players !
@mike jos
A millennial NFL fan no doubt.😅🏈