I had the quadlock mounted on my mt09 with their vibration dampener, but it still f.ed up my camera stabilizer. I know that happens only with new iphones but still I was really disappointed (the vibration dampener was supposed to prevemt this issue). Watch out iphone users!
@Giamarco have been using the quad lock with vibration dampener on my Rocket 3 R for over 6 months. No issues yet with my iPhone 11pro. I know somebody who’s been using the dampener on his HD Low Rider with no issues.
Me: "MVA why do you have a speed limiter function?" MVA: "Ay bambino, this save you many speeding tickets, you never get any speeding ticket ever, we guarantee it!"
In 2010 Honda charged me £1,300 for three bags for my Vfr1200F. Add inflation in and £:$ rate and you’re well over $1,500. They were also relatively small
Some people want reliable transportation that is inexpensive without drama from point A to B. They buy Honda’s. Some people can not wait to wake up in the morning for another adventure/journey/excitement. Something that pulls on their heart strings. That is Italian exotica, MV AGUSTA. I enjoy looking at the bike as riding it. I always take another look at my MV Dragster everytime I walk away.
Isn't it crazy when a machine can be _that_ exciting?! I've owned pretty nice sports cars etc. but _nothing_ came close to the excitement, raw thrills, perfection of riding feel of my MV Agusta! You know that feeling of excitement that you get when you buy something new, and then fades? Somehow with my MV Agusta that feeling NEVER went away, it just got even better as I learned more about it, got more used to it!!
Out of all my bikes so far only Miss Victory (my wife calls it) has that effect on me, often ringing in my ears 'ride me, come feel me again' 😝 Mayb the MV will be next 😁
My superveloce is the same, I missed my old 2007 Brutale and ended up with the SV . Beautifully made, lovely to look at and really rewarding to ride even though I m nowhere near to its limits 😅
The last time I saw Zach ride an MV Agusta, the gear shift lever broke off on the middle of the freeway, leaving him stuck in 6th gear. Fortunately, the triple had enough torque for Zach to finish the commute.
@@sushantmanandhar1387 if we're playing that game, it fell off in 2nd, but after taking the lever all the way off, he manually shifted it into 3rd and then took off again.
The big problem I see for this bike is that, if you want a 110hp gorgeous Italian upright sport touring bike with a wonderful engine and lots of bells and whistles… what’s wrong with the Ducati Multistrada V2S?
Do you even know that there is another version, also absolutely loaded with tech, only missing a few things from that Lusso version, that costs only 3/4 of that price?
@@pistonburner6448 fair point re: brand. Been watching a few Aprilia RS V4 vids lately but put off by the price of those too. That said I'd take the Aprilia over this all day long. So (the first part of) my comment stands.
I'm eyeing a used full spec with the auto clutch thing (maybe disgusting idk) for 14k euro tax inc in Europe, the trick is to wait for people with too much money to get them fully specced and then pay tracer 9 gt money for it :)
I absolutely love that bike, but that's way out of my budget. I'd say I'd stick with a Tiger 660, but that's also out of my budget. Which means I'm stuck with my FZ6 with Sedici sidebags 😀
Reliability these days is pretty good. Although I do recall a few years ago, Zack, a certain gear shift lever fell off a Brutale you were riding at the time......
I, having owned a Brutale 800 during the "troubled MV Agusta company era" and having followed the developments of the reliability issues and company itself can tell you that MV Agusta's reliability concerns were never really an issue, and especially now for like half a decade _the opposite_ has been true! MV Agustas are proven to have been reliable for a long time, and they clearly are all based on extremely proven tech. MV Agusta used to have only a few typical faults, they didn't affect nearly all bikes, and they were not serious. Since then the sprag clutch (which didn't leave you stranded even back in the day, it gave you warnings for a long time!!) has been redesigned several times, first a fix, then an even more comprehensive fix. That fix is fitted to ALL bikes of all ages, so it fixes even the oldest F3/B3 model version bikes. The newest parts fit the oldest bikes. Fixed. Very notable is that MV Agusta took incredibly good care of customers, they fix that issue for free even for people with long gone warranty periods. Sure, MV Agustas just like ALL Italian bikes are picky about which battery you put in them. But this is the same for all Italian brands, Ducati and Aprilia also simply just need a good quality battery as their electronics don't like dropping voltages. It's really not that hard: just avoid cheaping out with bad quality batteries. Good batteries are not expensive. They've had very few issues with the gearbox but they've reworked that too. They've gone over several details which they themselves have internally also seen to be something they've wanted to upgrade and improve. The tech in their current bikes was introduced in 2010/2011!! That's when the new 3-cylinder Brutale of the B3 generation and new F3 were introduced!! Even the older versions of the engine and gearbox combo have been reliable and over the years they've been tried and tested, they've worked out even the smallest kinks and risks over the years. What they are now selling is depending how you look at it at least version 3 or more of that engine and gearbox plus other tech, and they've only become more bulletproof from the very first already incredibly reliable versions. That's actually something that makes MV Agusta stand out in reliability, not the other way around!! MV Agusta has tried and tested tech, which wasn't unreliable even a decade ago when it was first introduced but nevertheless they've kept on improving it further, and they haven't introduced any clean-sheet designs that would have reliability risks! Actually the amazing thing is how right they got the tech back when they introduced it, since they've only had to do small tweaks to that basic package. But then again it's no wonder they got it right, as the people responsible were incredible: it was MV Agusta and Cagiva Research Center (owned by MV Agusta) who spearheaded the development, set the goals, and they had access to Ferrari F1 engineers to design the engine and gearbox. They really went with state of the art, and even included then-new electronic throttle-by-wire. They only really perfected the throttle-by-wire software in about 2015, but they gave the software update to all bikes sold up to that point. There really isn't anything outdated about that package even to this day. It still performs at the top of the field, and thanks to its ripe old age they've had plenty of time to sort out even the few small kinks it had. What could be better than a fantastic engine that is old enough to have all the faults ironed out? They clearly haven't even made any mistakes with the new(or updated?) software with the new Continental cornering ABS systems etc., since there have been no reports of issues from customers. They even have the new phone app and anti-theft GPS tracking system performing without reports of problems! About the spare parts issue: a long time ago MV Agusta used to be in financial trouble and had arranged its spare parts system very badly. Since then MV Agusta has been acquired by a new owner, they got a massive cash injection making them flush and able to re-organise everything, and that's exactly what they did. They have totally re-organised their spare parts system and even the logic on how they store parts. They have a new warehouse in which they keep an adequate amount of spares to be shipped fast. It's all new. This has been up and running for years already. Any rumours of issues is outdated. It's really unfair for uninformed, totally clueless people to keep lying about any reliability issues with MV Agusta, as they have never had serious reliability issues, they've always taken responsibility honourably, they've fixed all reliability issues YEARS AGO and they do not have any bearing on their modern generation of products, any issues were related to past generations. And they've clearly signalled a complete overhaul of how they deal with these things, even coming up in many countries with not only their 3 year warranty (was even longer in some countries) as well as FREE servicing for 3 years. This probably reads like I'd be an insider in the company, but I'm not. I don't even own an MV Agusta anymore. I'm just a business owner who recognises when other small (in relation to their competition) businesses are unfairly smeared with lies even though they've been exemplary. That's just not right! It could even be that their competitors are spreading these baseless rumours of unreliability all over the internet (VW owned Ducati is not above such stunts as we know...) as a cheap way of 'competing'. We have so few smaller manufacturers in the motorcycle world and in the vehicle world in general anymore that I really take objection to unfair damaging smears like this. Small, scrappy, excellent companies like MV Agusta, Aprilia etc. don't need special treatment, but they need to be treated fairly.
Anyone can look up the list of new versions of the parts and components I've mentioned. Everyone can see that they've even marked one generational change of the engine&gearbox combo by changing their colour from grey to black/anthracite. The fact that MV Agusta has offered all the mentioned fixes of known faults for free without any difficulty to the customers can be checked. The change of ownership and their clear announcement of a completed reworking of the parts supply is verifiable. Their constant emphasis on reliability and proof of it in the form of longer warranties and free servicing can be checked. Anyone can look up customer mentions of problems, and can see how issues have been addressed long ago.
Why did I sell my MV Agusta? The usual worry of my safety after so many years seeing how crazy people out there in traffic are, and having so many people I've known killed or badly injured. It was also easy to decide to sell my bike because I bought my Brutale extremely cheaply when MV Agusta as a company was doing very badly, on the brink of bankruptcy, and when that parts supply issue was true. Due to those reasons trust in the brand was low and because of that I got the as-new but a few years old bike that had been sitting at a dealership for a steal. But then after I bought the bike, almost a decade ago, the company got new ownership, they clearly were saved and they did all the right things: not only did they introduce new products based on their strong existing fundamentals, but most importantly they addressed the (actually very minimal) reliability concerns and parts supply issue. And bing-bam-boom the company's reputation changed so completely that my bike, even after having used it for many years and having put on thousands on the odometer, was suddenly almost as valuable as when I bought it! I really did sell my 4 year old bike with well over 10,000 on the odometer for nearly what I paid for it! So especially when it comes to used MV Agustas: you can actually get great deals due to the false rumours of the aforementioned issues! You will know that at this point either the bike you're buying has been proven to not have the few issues it might have, or they've already been fixed for free by MV Agusta. In any case for example the starter sprag clutch issue gives you warnings for a long time and isn't a trip-killer that will suddenly strand you. You have plenty of time to get it fixed. And you'll know that you can get the newest parts for your bike that will then fix that issue for good. They made them so that the newest version fits even the oldest generations. And for those who buy new: you can benefit from the amazing, tried and tested tech and beauty of the bikes, with long warranties and free servicing, and can have peace of mind with the knowledge that the base of the bike you've bought is rock solid as it was very reliable already a decade ago when they hired Ferrari F1 engineers to design the engine and gearbox, and it's just been improved over the last decade into the very reliable package it is today. Remember: they're the same engineers who were responsible for the best bikes of the time, even the most legendary Ducatis were designed by MV Agusta and CRC (Cagiva Research Center, which is owned by MV Agusta) as they used to also own Ducati! And thought the base tech is about a decade old it's still at the top of the field performance-wise and they've even augmented it with all the moderns stuff like TFT-dash and phone app.
Helluva history on MV over the past years. Glad to hear you had a good experience with them. Can you explain what you meant by "Free Servicing", specifically?
@@q10115 MV Agusta includes 3 years of warranty and also 3 years of free servicing (scheduled servicing is free of charge), as well as 2 years roadside assistance (including tow to MV Agusta dealers within 100km)or new bikes. That is valid at least in Europe, apparently the free servicing is not offered in the USA. You'll have to ask your dealers what they offer. In much of Europe they currently also offer an automatic discount (€1000/£1000) and an extended 2 years of warranty (=total 5 years).
A brief detour from the two-wheel world to the...no-wheel world: the ship in the harbor is a "RoRo", a roll-on/roll-off cargo ship for transporting (usually) those things that cagers ride around in while staring at their phones. Occasionally they carry things like train cars, bulldozers, etc. But mostly passenger vehicles. IIRC Long Beach is the primary entry point into the US for autos made in Asia.
The looks, the triple engine, the riding position, the hand-adjustable windshield; reminds me of an upscale Italian take on my Triumph Tiger Sport 660. ;-)
I'm glad you left that stall in. You could of easily edited it out. People are so embarrassed when they stall or make a mistake. In the real world experienced riders occasionally have an oops.
Yes, a speed limiter, just like in a massive amount of cars is very handy in many countries and areas. VERY handy! Essential even! It's especially for places with twisty roads with high speed limits, and I guess also for in-town riding I suppose. That way you can let it rip freely, ride/drive according to the conditions but the limiter will help you avoid going past the speed limit. It frees you to concentrate on the riding/driving instead of looking at the speedo. Basically you're completely free to ride as you like, only concentrating on the road conditions to regulate your own riding, and then the limiter takes care of the speed limit. If you'd try to do the same with cruise control...your ride would be horrible as no-one wants to ride at constant speed through a twisty road. And if you'd use nothing at all you'd have to concentrate on the speedo constantly and usually at the worst moment, and probably still be at risk of huge speeding by mistake. I used to live in places where you don't really need the limiter at all, but then I moved to a country with very twisty roads and strict speed enforcement which makes the limiter a daily life-saver and it basically enables enjoyable driving/riding. Imagine riding on a twisty road and then every time your speed rises a bit higher you have to start looking at the speedo and you HAVE to make sure you don't go over the limit. For sure that would take way too much concentration without the limiter, and the risk of you messing up and getting a MASSIVE speeding ticket or losing your license is high.
The only problem with this is that optimistic speedometer. If you set the limiter at 100kph, but the speedometer thinks you’re doing 100kph when you’re actually doing 80kph…
As someone who owns a 2016 MV Agusta F4. I love all there bikes, such amazing bikes they make. I pick MV over any other brand. The amount of work they put into there bikes amazing.
Great bike. Thanks Zach. This Smart Clutch System (SCS) version bike has rekluse clutch that allows you to fully stop and start without the clutch. You still shift with your foot though. I want this bike. There is one place in Southern California that can service these as well.
The speed limiter sounds like a useful feature, especially when cruise control is active on hilly terrain to avoid exceeding the speed limit on downhills while touring
I thought for sure this was a Yamaha tracer 900 from the thumbnail haha good looking bike for sure! I’ve only had the chance to ride one MV AGUSTA and it was the F3 which was super fun! Nothing like I’m used to with the big 4 but definitely a beautiful and powerful machine. 💪🏻😍
26:22 what on earth are you talking about zack😑 The last MVA you rode its gear shift lever literally fell off mid ride. Then you did the rest of the video on third gear.😂 Edit: It was the MVA brutale 800
I don't like the idea of having the only front turn signals in the handguards. I take my hand guards off in the summer to get more airflow to my hands. You can't do that with this bike.
I enjoy your daily ride videos so much and Man you scare me when you ride through traffic like you do but hope you're feeling okay you sound a little sick.
@@JoshuaTootell I looked up the lawn in California and yeah they do that all the time but still thats a little scary because cars can move over and car door can open. I do understand why you would do it.
Just checked….we have 5 MV dealers in all of Canada. The closest dealer to me is 200 km away. For a brand with a checkered reputation that doesn’t give you the warm fuzzies….
@@TheBasil36 yeah, I love reliable bikes. We currently have 3 Suzuki's, 1 Yamaha, and 1 KTM. We have owned Hondas in the past and they are amazing bikes. If your bike is not going to be as reliable as the Japanese competition then they should at least have a dealer network that will support your issues and not make ownership a nightmare. Bikes are for relieving stress not causing it.
So many people complaining about price when I am seeing the base model (no bags or scs) for 12k and the bags+scs for 15k. Don't know why research is hard to do on cycletrader, but maybe I am not looking at things appropriately from an in state dealer and exploring all options
One of these days please try the V85TT Travel, 20 lbs more with a 6 gal tank, shaft drive, saddlebags and the maintenance takes less than 1/4 the time of the MV.
Hey bro, Greetings from Mexico. Incredible work on your video. I have a question. I recently bought an MV TV, but I still can't activate the cruise control. Could you explain the tricks to activate it? Some blogs mention that you have to be in 6th gear. Is this true? Thanks and regards
Did a test ride here in Singapore & I fell in Love ❤️ It's the most beautiful Sports Tourer I have ever seen, it sets my heart racing when I throw my leg over it, it feels comfort for road trip, it leans into corners confidently & pull out of corners effortlessly & the exhaust note is so lovely... If I may say... The whole experience is better than sex 😍 The only thing holding me back is deciding which bike to let go. Wifey said there is onli room for 3 bikes, sell away 1 b4 buying another 😢
As always, great review Zack! Love your Daily rider show here on TH-cam. I just purchased one of the older leftovers, new in the crate, 2021 Rosso models and am quite excited to transition to a sports tourer after recently selling my 2018 Street Triple R, which I adored. Just wondering what your flat kit includes for tubeless tires?(I would imagine these are tubeless unlike some ADV bikes)
That cannoli metaphor was better than it had any right to be. I think the speed limiter is a useful touring feature. If you are going doing the highway with a speed limit of 90 to 110 km/h, it can be hard to stick to 50 km/h when you are in a small town. These towns are aggressive at enforcing their speed limit for that reason. Cruise control works well for some towns, but in others you are constantly re-engaging. A temporary speed limiter sounds like a great way to avoid those tickets.
So, MV Agusta, your intent was if the road conditions change you have to pull over to adjust suspension for the temporary change in road surface, but if you happen to pick up a passenger with luggage without stopping you can adjust the suspension for your new found weight? oof
I can see the benefit of the speed limiter. Some CCs are really easy to cancel which means they are really hard to not cancel with unintended throttle input. Others (s1000xr) are very stable so you can relax when using but then it’s very abrupt when you want to cancel. This sounds like a nice feature where you can peg the throttle and maintain a chosen speed but when you want to slow down, it probably rolls off as nicely as any unlimited throttle would.
I have a speed limiter in my car, and I do find some uses for it from time to time. Especially rush hour traffic where there are speed cameras. There's a lot of speed variations from slow to 'normal' speed, so a regular cruise control won't be useful. I just set the speed limiter and follow the flow of the traffic without having to worry about going too fast past the cameras. Yea it's an old car, from before the age of adaptive cruise controls :)
If the speed is off by that much I would suspect you have the speedo set for KPH. Lucky it has mirrors at all as the first rule of Italian driving "What's behind me is not important!" I think its a tiramisu!
Speed limiters are great on roads that have average speed cameras. If you don't know what they are, they are cameras thats take your average speed over a distance. More and more roads are getting them in the UK.
A Honda car and a Lamborghini are both similar forms of transportation moving from point A to B. One version offers reliability without drama every single day going to work. The other version offers an adventure/journey/exclusivity/exotic engine everyday to work. You admire it before a the ride and take one last look as you walk in the office. One version really pulls on the old heart strings the other is just reliable transportation from point A to B. MV AGusta is that moving art, that emotional attachment. I own a MV. I also own a Lamborghini. I am an vehicle enthusiast. I know everything about the vehicles, history, and place of manufacture.
MV offers the longest warranty, I believe, at 3 years. That should help those concerned about reliability. In the USA a motorcycle is a luxury vs Europe. Most people usa also Own a car
I know that MV Agusta has had a number of owners over the years including Harley-Davidson. But it seems that they are still an independent company as of now. That cannot be said for most other motorcycle manufacturers which are generally part of a large corporate entity. I've owned Ducati, Moto Guzzi and Aprilia. All wonderful motorcycles for different reasons. But MV Agusta seems special and exclusive. I need to test ride one. I think their factory is in San Marino which is one of the smallest countries in the world despite being within Italy.
As an Italian sport-tourer, I'm surprised by the lack of a Multistrada comparison. (Light-years out of my budget, but I know which way I'd be leaning before a proper test ride.)
Next time I want a canolli, I'm going directly to RevZilla! I'm in love with the styling and the fit and finish on this machine. Where, in Central California, could I even find one of these or get it serviced on a cross-country trip!? An impressive bike for sure. I think, though, I like the Tiger even more.....
Disappointed by not seeing you testing the SCS system that a high selling point in the modern traffic situation. The price is also too high, but it's a lot in the package. Didn't get much understanding about what electronics that creature had: IMIU? TRC? ARC? Launch? Quickshifter up and down? The electronic suspension (and how it works)? But that limiter, cruise, and SCS are so interesting, for main markets were moto use is mostly for proper individual and fast transportation and not a just a toy for occasional fun, people more often looking towards day by day usability and design then raw power or handling.
IMU, Quickshifter up and down (and an excellent one), adjustable lean-angle-sensor traction control, cornering ABS, rear wheel lift mitigation, it has it all. Even satellite tracking theft protection, 3 year warranty and free servicing is standard. I don't know what you mean with TRC and ARC. At least the SCS version has 'launch', I believe the other versions don't. Even the 'base' model, the Turismo Veloce Rosso which costs 3/4 of the Lusso version has most of that, I guess it's only missing the satellite tracking theft protection and heated grips, but those can be added on as optional extras. And you can't get the SCS clutch on the Rosso version.
So, a bit of a relevant but not totally related question: Why ARE motorcycle speedos so far out? Cars aren't in general. How did that become an industry standard? Who decided that was a good idea? What's interesting is that on the bikes I've owned the odometer/trip meter is quite accurate. So I don't believe the issue is related to getting the bike past the warranty period sooner lol
My 2004 1000RR read 90 mph at 81 MPH (redline in first gear). My 2003 GSXR is much closer, according to the radar on the side of the road. I don't get it.
@@JoshuaTootell my VFR shows 107kph at a true GPS read 100. So, 7%. My Katana 750 was similar All of my caged vehicles are within 2%. It's weird and I hate it. Not sure why it's a thing.
Nice review. The turismo veloce lusso comes with the saddles bags? Or at least it did when I bought mine brand new last year. £15000 I paid in uk. Love it been all over it’s never missed a beat. Comfy. fast and you can really throw it into the corners. Going touring Spain and Portugal end of June can’t wait✊🏻 I agree with the weight tho and it’s high up on the bike making it abit top heavy. 👍🏻
Hi Zach, if you see this I've been thinking... and I'm not sure splitting up the leaderboard into seasons is the right move. I mean, all bikes really should be compared fairly right? I know the board will get big... but there's nothing wrong with having a big board, my momma always used to tell me. Peace out
I'd like to see separate leaderboards, but separated by types of bikes: sport, touring, etc. Then we can see how similar bikes stack up against each other.
@@pistonburner6448 So when you drive over gravel or sand at high speed the little rocks don't damage the radiator fins or put a hole in it perhaps? There is a bunch of crud stuck in the fins at the start of the video.
@@thomasneedham1512 Exactly. It's fine. It's not an off-road bike and can handle the occasional gravel just like all other road bikes. I guess you're just not knowledgeable of high-quality modern radiators of proper bikes. Even off-road bikes' radiators have to be able to handle hits from stones since not even nearly all stones are caught by the mudguard. It's important to have a more aerodynamic design and avoid the lift from an old fashioned antique mudguard. It's things like this which ensure MV Agusta's legendary handling.
@@pistonburner6448 It is why I have an air cooled Goose. And I have lots of gravel on my roads here so no need to be so insulting,. MV Agusta isn't going to give you a bike for trying to troll anyone who points out a negative. about their bikes.
I just got one, there are some very attractive finance deals that KTM seem to be driving - in the UK anyway. I m just running it in at the moment. Firestorm 637 is right, KTM are aiming to get even more premium, minimum US$27,000 apparently. This is probably my last MV (unless they want to give me one).
I know they have been around a long time, but any chance you could do a Kawi ZX-14R Ninja? I have heard they are remarkably comfortable and easy to ride, but capable of pretty crazy near H2 levels of performance in acceleration, braking, and handling, and are reasonably affordable. I would love to see your perspective on one as an around town bike!
Hi Zack, if you get to see this, I wonder if you weighed the bike with or without the side cases? If with the cases, I guess that would add maybe 10 or 15lbs to the measured weight? Truth is it's hard to find a wet weight measurement online and so I intend to quote yours (with a credit) in my own review video if you don't mind!
What a good looking machine!!! I realize that this is "Daily Rider" which is a value and practicality oriented ranking system.... BUT you don't buy a MV Agusta for value or practicality. You buy it because it is just so good looking & sounding (I dig triples). MV is a low volume boutique motorcycle manufacturer, and as such are not going to compete with the Big Four.
MV very exclusive similar to Ferrari/Lambo. Build around 7000 total bikes/year. Ducati builds around 60,000 bikes/ year. BMW around 180,000 bikes/year. Japanese build millions/year.
Ugh, quadlock, I am bombarded with quadlock on all my social media. It’s so bad that I have vowed to never buy quadlock because I resent the ad campaign stalking me so much! 😂
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I had the quadlock mounted on my mt09 with their vibration dampener, but it still f.ed up my camera stabilizer. I know that happens only with new iphones but still I was really disappointed (the vibration dampener was supposed to prevemt this issue). Watch out iphone users!
26:25 oh? Never had a shift lever come off on a commute? Hmmm?
@@gianmarco8494 dang, I was looking at getting one for my RC390 definitely will just keep the phone in my pocket.
@Giamarco have been using the quad lock with vibration dampener on my Rocket 3 R for over 6 months. No issues yet with my iPhone 11pro. I know somebody who’s been using the dampener on his HD Low Rider with no issues.
My 12 pro max broke not once but twice (2nd time around I had mounted the dampener) on my mt09 also a friend of mine broke his 11 on his s1000 xr
I love Italian speedometers.
Me: “How fast am I going right now?”
MVA: “oh, very fast! You are like Vale! Very fast! Buono!
Me: "MVA why do you have a speed limiter function?"
MVA: "Ay bambino, this save you many speeding tickets, you never get any speeding ticket ever, we guarantee it!"
@@aka_pierre @John Carpenter You each deserve a cannoli from RevZilla for your comments. Perfetto!
You should have referenced Agostini, Vale never rode for MV ;)
$1500 for luggage is eye watering. You know you're in the deep end when the luggage costs as much as my entire bike 😅
Honda has the same pricing......
In 2010 Honda charged me £1,300 for three bags for my Vfr1200F. Add inflation in and £:$ rate and you’re well over $1,500. They were also relatively small
Some people want reliable transportation that is inexpensive without drama from point A to B. They buy Honda’s. Some people can not wait to wake up in the morning for another adventure/journey/excitement. Something that pulls on their heart strings. That is Italian exotica, MV AGUSTA. I enjoy looking at the bike as riding it. I always take another look at my MV Dragster everytime I walk away.
Isn't it crazy when a machine can be _that_ exciting?! I've owned pretty nice sports cars etc. but _nothing_ came close to the excitement, raw thrills, perfection of riding feel of my MV Agusta!
You know that feeling of excitement that you get when you buy something new, and then fades? Somehow with my MV Agusta that feeling NEVER went away, it just got even better as I learned more about it, got more used to it!!
Out of all my bikes so far only Miss Victory (my wife calls it) has that effect on me, often ringing in my ears 'ride me, come feel me again' 😝
Mayb the MV will be next 😁
My superveloce is the same, I missed my old 2007 Brutale and ended up with the SV . Beautifully made, lovely to look at and really rewarding to ride even though I m nowhere near to its limits 😅
The last time I saw Zach ride an MV Agusta, the gear shift lever broke off on the middle of the freeway, leaving him stuck in 6th gear. Fortunately, the triple had enough torque for Zach to finish the commute.
Hahaha I remember that, pretty sure it was 3rd though😁
Yeah 6th gear would make the Triumph Rocket III struggle to get off a stoplight.
@@sushantmanandhar1387 if we're playing that game, it fell off in 2nd, but after taking the lever all the way off, he manually shifted it into 3rd and then took off again.
that bike is drop dead gorgeous.....the italians always get that part correct....as for the price.....not competitive :(
The big problem I see for this bike is that, if you want a 110hp gorgeous Italian upright sport touring bike with a wonderful engine and lots of bells and whistles… what’s wrong with the Ducati Multistrada V2S?
@@JCintheBCC The fact that it's a Volkswagen, it sucks, is unreliable, and the most uncool German-owned cynical marketing crap ever.
Do you even know that there is another version, also absolutely loaded with tech, only missing a few things from that Lusso version, that costs only 3/4 of that price?
@@pistonburner6448 How many MV Agustas do you own?
@@chorseundgrd None, why? You? Have you ever even ridden one?
Another beautiful bike that will never leave the showroom floor.
Nah, stupid people with more money than sense keep on paying these prices 🤦♂️
Might be Aprilia's most popular bike
@@ixifutureproof9286 Another genius making such brainless comments...and not even getting the bike's brand right...
@@pistonburner6448 fair point re: brand. Been watching a few Aprilia RS V4 vids lately but put off by the price of those too. That said I'd take the Aprilia over this all day long. So (the first part of) my comment stands.
I'm eyeing a used full spec with the auto clutch thing (maybe disgusting idk) for 14k euro tax inc in Europe, the trick is to wait for people with too much money to get them fully specced and then pay tracer 9 gt money for it :)
@@leozinhosozinho but then why wouldn't you just get a tracer 9?
I absolutely love that bike, but that's way out of my budget. I'd say I'd stick with a Tiger 660, but that's also out of my budget. Which means I'm stuck with my FZ6 with Sedici sidebags 😀
Buy a used one my guy. There are places that sell them with full warranty under the price even of a tiger 660.
FZ6 was a great machine in its own right, certainly reliable.
Reliability these days is pretty good. Although I do recall a few years ago, Zack, a certain gear shift lever fell off a Brutale you were riding at the time......
I, having owned a Brutale 800 during the "troubled MV Agusta company era" and having followed the developments of the reliability issues and company itself can tell you that MV Agusta's reliability concerns were never really an issue, and especially now for like half a decade _the opposite_ has been true! MV Agustas are proven to have been reliable for a long time, and they clearly are all based on extremely proven tech.
MV Agusta used to have only a few typical faults, they didn't affect nearly all bikes, and they were not serious. Since then the sprag clutch (which didn't leave you stranded even back in the day, it gave you warnings for a long time!!) has been redesigned several times, first a fix, then an even more comprehensive fix. That fix is fitted to ALL bikes of all ages, so it fixes even the oldest F3/B3 model version bikes. The newest parts fit the oldest bikes. Fixed.
Very notable is that MV Agusta took incredibly good care of customers, they fix that issue for free even for people with long gone warranty periods.
Sure, MV Agustas just like ALL Italian bikes are picky about which battery you put in them. But this is the same for all Italian brands, Ducati and Aprilia also simply just need a good quality battery as their electronics don't like dropping voltages. It's really not that hard: just avoid cheaping out with bad quality batteries. Good batteries are not expensive.
They've had very few issues with the gearbox but they've reworked that too. They've gone over several details which they themselves have internally also seen to be something they've wanted to upgrade and improve.
The tech in their current bikes was introduced in 2010/2011!! That's when the new 3-cylinder Brutale of the B3 generation and new F3 were introduced!! Even the older versions of the engine and gearbox combo have been reliable and over the years they've been tried and tested, they've worked out even the smallest kinks and risks over the years. What they are now selling is depending how you look at it at least version 3 or more of that engine and gearbox plus other tech, and they've only become more bulletproof from the very first already incredibly reliable versions. That's actually something that makes MV Agusta stand out in reliability, not the other way around!! MV Agusta has tried and tested tech, which wasn't unreliable even a decade ago when it was first introduced but nevertheless they've kept on improving it further, and they haven't introduced any clean-sheet designs that would have reliability risks!
Actually the amazing thing is how right they got the tech back when they introduced it, since they've only had to do small tweaks to that basic package. But then again it's no wonder they got it right, as the people responsible were incredible: it was MV Agusta and Cagiva Research Center (owned by MV Agusta) who spearheaded the development, set the goals, and they had access to Ferrari F1 engineers to design the engine and gearbox. They really went with state of the art, and even included then-new electronic throttle-by-wire. They only really perfected the throttle-by-wire software in about 2015, but they gave the software update to all bikes sold up to that point. There really isn't anything outdated about that package even to this day. It still performs at the top of the field, and thanks to its ripe old age they've had plenty of time to sort out even the few small kinks it had. What could be better than a fantastic engine that is old enough to have all the faults ironed out? They clearly haven't even made any mistakes with the new(or updated?) software with the new Continental cornering ABS systems etc., since there have been no reports of issues from customers. They even have the new phone app and anti-theft GPS tracking system performing without reports of problems!
About the spare parts issue: a long time ago MV Agusta used to be in financial trouble and had arranged its spare parts system very badly. Since then MV Agusta has been acquired by a new owner, they got a massive cash injection making them flush and able to re-organise everything, and that's exactly what they did. They have totally re-organised their spare parts system and even the logic on how they store parts. They have a new warehouse in which they keep an adequate amount of spares to be shipped fast. It's all new. This has been up and running for years already. Any rumours of issues is outdated.
It's really unfair for uninformed, totally clueless people to keep lying about any reliability issues with MV Agusta, as they have never had serious reliability issues, they've always taken responsibility honourably, they've fixed all reliability issues YEARS AGO and they do not have any bearing on their modern generation of products, any issues were related to past generations. And they've clearly signalled a complete overhaul of how they deal with these things, even coming up in many countries with not only their 3 year warranty (was even longer in some countries) as well as FREE servicing for 3 years.
This probably reads like I'd be an insider in the company, but I'm not. I don't even own an MV Agusta anymore. I'm just a business owner who recognises when other small (in relation to their competition) businesses are unfairly smeared with lies even though they've been exemplary. That's just not right! It could even be that their competitors are spreading these baseless rumours of unreliability all over the internet (VW owned Ducati is not above such stunts as we know...) as a cheap way of 'competing'. We have so few smaller manufacturers in the motorcycle world and in the vehicle world in general anymore that I really take objection to unfair damaging smears like this. Small, scrappy, excellent companies like MV Agusta, Aprilia etc. don't need special treatment, but they need to be treated fairly.
Anyone can look up the list of new versions of the parts and components I've mentioned. Everyone can see that they've even marked one generational change of the engine&gearbox combo by changing their colour from grey to black/anthracite.
The fact that MV Agusta has offered all the mentioned fixes of known faults for free without any difficulty to the customers can be checked.
The change of ownership and their clear announcement of a completed reworking of the parts supply is verifiable.
Their constant emphasis on reliability and proof of it in the form of longer warranties and free servicing can be checked.
Anyone can look up customer mentions of problems, and can see how issues have been addressed long ago.
Why did I sell my MV Agusta? The usual worry of my safety after so many years seeing how crazy people out there in traffic are, and having so many people I've known killed or badly injured.
It was also easy to decide to sell my bike because I bought my Brutale extremely cheaply when MV Agusta as a company was doing very badly, on the brink of bankruptcy, and when that parts supply issue was true. Due to those reasons trust in the brand was low and because of that I got the as-new but a few years old bike that had been sitting at a dealership for a steal. But then after I bought the bike, almost a decade ago, the company got new ownership, they clearly were saved and they did all the right things: not only did they introduce new products based on their strong existing fundamentals, but most importantly they addressed the (actually very minimal) reliability concerns and parts supply issue. And bing-bam-boom the company's reputation changed so completely that my bike, even after having used it for many years and having put on thousands on the odometer, was suddenly almost as valuable as when I bought it! I really did sell my 4 year old bike with well over 10,000 on the odometer for nearly what I paid for it!
So especially when it comes to used MV Agustas: you can actually get great deals due to the false rumours of the aforementioned issues! You will know that at this point either the bike you're buying has been proven to not have the few issues it might have, or they've already been fixed for free by MV Agusta. In any case for example the starter sprag clutch issue gives you warnings for a long time and isn't a trip-killer that will suddenly strand you. You have plenty of time to get it fixed. And you'll know that you can get the newest parts for your bike that will then fix that issue for good. They made them so that the newest version fits even the oldest generations.
And for those who buy new: you can benefit from the amazing, tried and tested tech and beauty of the bikes, with long warranties and free servicing, and can have peace of mind with the knowledge that the base of the bike you've bought is rock solid as it was very reliable already a decade ago when they hired Ferrari F1 engineers to design the engine and gearbox, and it's just been improved over the last decade into the very reliable package it is today. Remember: they're the same engineers who were responsible for the best bikes of the time, even the most legendary Ducatis were designed by MV Agusta and CRC (Cagiva Research Center, which is owned by MV Agusta) as they used to also own Ducati! And thought the base tech is about a decade old it's still at the top of the field performance-wise and they've even augmented it with all the moderns stuff like TFT-dash and phone app.
Behold children, a MV simp in the wild
Helluva history on MV over the past years. Glad to hear you had a good experience with them. Can you explain what you meant by "Free Servicing", specifically?
@@q10115 MV Agusta includes 3 years of warranty and also 3 years of free servicing (scheduled servicing is free of charge), as well as 2 years roadside assistance (including tow to MV Agusta dealers within 100km)or new bikes. That is valid at least in Europe, apparently the free servicing is not offered in the USA. You'll have to ask your dealers what they offer. In much of Europe they currently also offer an automatic discount (€1000/£1000) and an extended 2 years of warranty (=total 5 years).
He stalled! 😱 He couldn’t back it in! 😱 He didn’t pop as many wheelies as i wanted him to! 😱 WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO?!
A brief detour from the two-wheel world to the...no-wheel world: the ship in the harbor is a "RoRo", a roll-on/roll-off cargo ship for transporting (usually) those things that cagers ride around in while staring at their phones. Occasionally they carry things like train cars, bulldozers, etc. But mostly passenger vehicles. IIRC Long Beach is the primary entry point into the US for autos made in Asia.
The looks, the triple engine, the riding position, the hand-adjustable windshield; reminds me of an upscale Italian take on my Triumph Tiger Sport 660. ;-)
I'm glad you left that stall in. You could of easily edited it out. People are so embarrassed when they stall or make a mistake. In the real world experienced riders occasionally have an oops.
Could have*
@@A_Dirrty_Bird I stand corrected
Yes, a speed limiter, just like in a massive amount of cars is very handy in many countries and areas. VERY handy! Essential even!
It's especially for places with twisty roads with high speed limits, and I guess also for in-town riding I suppose. That way you can let it rip freely, ride/drive according to the conditions but the limiter will help you avoid going past the speed limit. It frees you to concentrate on the riding/driving instead of looking at the speedo.
Basically you're completely free to ride as you like, only concentrating on the road conditions to regulate your own riding, and then the limiter takes care of the speed limit. If you'd try to do the same with cruise control...your ride would be horrible as no-one wants to ride at constant speed through a twisty road. And if you'd use nothing at all you'd have to concentrate on the speedo constantly and usually at the worst moment, and probably still be at risk of huge speeding by mistake.
I used to live in places where you don't really need the limiter at all, but then I moved to a country with very twisty roads and strict speed enforcement which makes the limiter a daily life-saver and it basically enables enjoyable driving/riding. Imagine riding on a twisty road and then every time your speed rises a bit higher you have to start looking at the speedo and you HAVE to make sure you don't go over the limit. For sure that would take way too much concentration without the limiter, and the risk of you messing up and getting a MASSIVE speeding ticket or losing your license is high.
One word: Switzerland.
The only problem with this is that optimistic speedometer. If you set the limiter at 100kph, but the speedometer thinks you’re doing 100kph when you’re actually doing 80kph…
@@cisium1184 lol I live in Geneva and yeah you just can’t speed in the country 😅
Is this fucking sarcasm?
@@TheAsheybabe89 Why would it be, Ash-low-cash?
Zack does the best consumer test on the interweb, there you have it!
Zacks complaining about how it's too hot while it's literally snowing outside here in Toronto right now. Thanks for rubbing it in man
I just don’t know who this bike is for. Ultra premium tech-filled mid-displacement Italian adventure bike.
That's what I think about every MV Agusta. Oh well.
It's a Sport Tourer / Crossover, not an ADV Bike.
As someone who owns a 2016 MV Agusta F4.
I love all there bikes, such amazing bikes they make.
I pick MV over any other brand.
The amount of work they put into there bikes amazing.
MV Augusta sounds horrible.
@@Indieauguste not to me
@@Indieauguste are you Augusto or Agusto?
Nice bike! I didn’t even know MV Augusta made touring bikes like that. Pretty cool
22:18 for dirt road shortcut!
I just love How Zach Giggle and laughs when he rides
Yes, I've been hoping for this one! Sooo beautiful
I love that seat shape. Great term Zach said: "(T)all-rounder bikes."
Can you get oil and vinegar to mix? You can if you add mustard. And the the MV certainly has plenty of mustard!
Great bike. Thanks Zach. This Smart Clutch System (SCS) version bike has rekluse clutch that allows you to fully stop and start without the clutch. You still shift with your foot though. I want this bike. There is one place in Southern California that can service these as well.
Wow. They really get aesthetics. What a beautiful motorcycle.
The speed limiter sounds like a useful feature, especially when cruise control is active on hilly terrain to avoid exceeding the speed limit on downhills while touring
Thank you for another excellent video, Zack! And that Turismo Veloce? I want one! I NEED one!
Personally I think this is the most beautiful bike on the market.
I thought for sure this was a Yamaha tracer 900 from the thumbnail haha good looking bike for sure! I’ve only had the chance to ride one MV AGUSTA and it was the F3 which was super fun! Nothing like I’m used to with the big 4 but definitely a beautiful and powerful machine. 💪🏻😍
“a Yamaha”
My first thought when the bike started up was, how does this compare to a Tracer 900 GT.
Good evening Zack, you are very polite :). I always learn with your reviews! Thx tx! Greetings from Zurich
Kindly do a review on the 2022 S1000XR :)
26:22 what on earth are you talking about zack😑 The last MVA you rode its gear shift lever literally fell off mid ride. Then you did the rest of the video on third gear.😂
Edit: It was the MVA brutale 800
I don't like the idea of having the only front turn signals in the handguards. I take my hand guards off in the summer to get more airflow to my hands. You can't do that with this bike.
I enjoy your daily ride videos so much and Man you scare me when you ride through traffic like you do but hope you're feeling okay you sound a little sick.
Everyone here rides like that.
Completely normal in SoCal, feels FAR safer than sitting in traffic
@@JoshuaTootell I looked up the lawn in California and yeah they do that all the time but still thats a little scary because cars can move over and car door can open. I do understand why you would do it.
Just checked….we have 5 MV dealers in all of Canada. The closest dealer to me is 200 km away. For a brand with a checkered reputation that doesn’t give you the warm fuzzies….
I'm over 500 km from a BMW dealer and friends still buy them. You should buy a Honda if you're that worried.
@@TheBasil36 yeah, I love reliable bikes. We currently have 3 Suzuki's, 1 Yamaha, and 1 KTM. We have owned Hondas in the past and they are amazing bikes. If your bike is not going to be as reliable as the Japanese competition then they should at least have a dealer network that will support your issues and not make ownership a nightmare. Bikes are for relieving stress not causing it.
More MV Agusta!!! 😁
DR the new Nightster 975. Please, Zack?
So many people complaining about price when I am seeing the base model (no bags or scs) for 12k and the bags+scs for 15k. Don't know why research is hard to do on cycletrader, but maybe I am not looking at things appropriately from an in state dealer and exploring all options
Yo! Saw you at revfest! What a great time lol
Love the Odell Brewing T-shirt! My favorite brewery in Fort Collins, CO.
One of these days please try the V85TT Travel, 20 lbs more with a 6 gal tank, shaft drive, saddlebags and the maintenance takes less than 1/4 the time of the MV.
love how MV Agusta look. but its 2 days drive to the nearest dealer.
Hey bro,
Greetings from Mexico. Incredible work on your video. I have a question. I recently bought an MV TV, but I still can't activate the cruise control. Could you explain the tricks to activate it? Some blogs mention that you have to be in 6th gear. Is this true?
Thanks and regards
Cool bike.
I also like advertising quad lock with a smashed phone haha
Did a test ride here in Singapore & I fell in Love ❤️
It's the most beautiful Sports Tourer I have ever seen, it sets my heart racing when I throw my leg over it, it feels comfort for road trip, it leans into corners confidently & pull out of corners effortlessly & the exhaust note is so lovely... If I may say... The whole experience is better than sex 😍
The only thing holding me back is deciding which bike to let go. Wifey said there is onli room for 3 bikes, sell away 1 b4 buying another 😢
As always, great review Zack! Love your Daily rider show here on TH-cam. I just purchased one of the older leftovers, new in the crate, 2021 Rosso models and am quite excited to transition to a sports tourer after recently selling my 2018 Street Triple R, which I adored. Just wondering what your flat kit includes for tubeless tires?(I would imagine these are tubeless unlike some ADV bikes)
idk but it seems like $20k should get you a functional speedometer
That cannoli metaphor was better than it had any right to be. I think the speed limiter is a useful touring feature. If you are going doing the highway with a speed limit of 90 to 110 km/h, it can be hard to stick to 50 km/h when you are in a small town. These towns are aggressive at enforcing their speed limit for that reason. Cruise control works well for some towns, but in others you are constantly re-engaging. A temporary speed limiter sounds like a great way to avoid those tickets.
Great review! Love the comparisions at the end.
This bike has a 9k discount at euro cycles in Austin Texas. They selling for 10900.00. Very good price
would you be doing a review on the Dragster 800RR 2021?
Love the shirt! Odell. Some Colorado love!
So, MV Agusta, your intent was if the road conditions change you have to pull over to adjust suspension for the temporary change in road surface, but if you happen to pick up a passenger with luggage without stopping you can adjust the suspension for your new found weight? oof
I can see the benefit of the speed limiter. Some CCs are really easy to cancel which means they are really hard to not cancel with unintended throttle input. Others (s1000xr) are very stable so you can relax when using but then it’s very abrupt when you want to cancel. This sounds like a nice feature where you can peg the throttle and maintain a chosen speed but when you want to slow down, it probably rolls off as nicely as any unlimited throttle would.
I have a speed limiter in my car, and I do find some uses for it from time to time. Especially rush hour traffic where there are speed cameras. There's a lot of speed variations from slow to 'normal' speed, so a regular cruise control won't be useful. I just set the speed limiter and follow the flow of the traffic without having to worry about going too fast past the cameras.
Yea it's an old car, from before the age of adaptive cruise controls :)
If the speed is off by that much I would suspect you have the speedo set for KPH. Lucky it has mirrors at all as the first rule of Italian driving "What's behind me is not important!" I think its a tiramisu!
The speed limiter is great in Europe where we have a lot of average speed check cameras, where your speed is measured by cameras over a long distance.
we have huge, nice toll roads in texas, and i always wondered why they haven’t implanted that into their systems. here’s to not jinxing it.
So don't run a plate?
In two years all of these "luxury" tour-y bikes are going to need full on keyboards. "For $500 extra it comes with a factory mouse pad on the tank."
Speed limiters are great on roads that have average speed cameras. If you don't know what they are, they are cameras thats take your average speed over a distance. More and more roads are getting them in the UK.
A Honda car and a Lamborghini are both similar forms of transportation moving from point A to B. One version offers reliability without drama every single day going to work. The other version offers an adventure/journey/exclusivity/exotic engine everyday to work. You admire it before a the ride and take one last look as you walk in the office. One version really pulls on the old heart strings the other is just reliable transportation from point A to B. MV AGusta is that moving art, that emotional attachment. I own a MV. I also own a Lamborghini. I am an vehicle enthusiast. I know everything about the vehicles, history, and place of manufacture.
MV offers the longest warranty, I believe, at 3 years. That should help those concerned about reliability. In the USA a motorcycle is a luxury vs Europe. Most people usa also
Own a car
I know that MV Agusta has had a number of owners over the years including Harley-Davidson. But it seems that they are still an independent company as of now. That cannot be said for most other motorcycle manufacturers which are generally part of a large corporate entity. I've owned Ducati, Moto Guzzi and Aprilia. All wonderful motorcycles for different reasons. But MV Agusta seems special and exclusive. I need to test ride one. I think their factory is in San Marino which is one of the smallest countries in the world despite being within Italy.
OMG tell us how you cracked your iPhone screen? Did you drop it while doing whilly?
Moving art! No mods needed. All premium
Zach
What equipment is in your tool/flat kit exactly?
As an Italian sport-tourer, I'm surprised by the lack of a Multistrada comparison. (Light-years out of my budget, but I know which way I'd be leaning before a proper test ride.)
Please do the Ducati SuperSport soon. Seems like it could an exotic but comfortable daily rider.
Next time I want a canolli, I'm going directly to RevZilla! I'm in love with the styling and the fit and finish on this machine. Where, in Central California, could I even find one of these or get it serviced on a cross-country trip!? An impressive bike for sure. I think, though, I like the Tiger even more.....
Disappointed by not seeing you testing the SCS system that a high selling point in the modern traffic situation. The price is also too high, but it's a lot in the package. Didn't get much understanding about what electronics that creature had: IMIU? TRC? ARC? Launch? Quickshifter up and down? The electronic suspension (and how it works)? But that limiter, cruise, and SCS are so interesting, for main markets were moto use is mostly for proper individual and fast transportation and not a just a toy for occasional fun, people more often looking towards day by day usability and design then raw power or handling.
IMU, Quickshifter up and down (and an excellent one), adjustable lean-angle-sensor traction control, cornering ABS, rear wheel lift mitigation, it has it all. Even satellite tracking theft protection, 3 year warranty and free servicing is standard. I don't know what you mean with TRC and ARC. At least the SCS version has 'launch', I believe the other versions don't.
Even the 'base' model, the Turismo Veloce Rosso which costs 3/4 of the Lusso version has most of that, I guess it's only missing the satellite tracking theft protection and heated grips, but those can be added on as optional extras. And you can't get the SCS clutch on the Rosso version.
Would love your take on the 2.gen BMW S1000XR.
Zach got the accent perfect!
So, a bit of a relevant but not totally related question: Why ARE motorcycle speedos so far out? Cars aren't in general. How did that become an industry standard? Who decided that was a good idea? What's interesting is that on the bikes I've owned the odometer/trip meter is quite accurate. So I don't believe the issue is related to getting the bike past the warranty period sooner lol
My 2004 1000RR read 90 mph at 81 MPH (redline in first gear).
My 2003 GSXR is much closer, according to the radar on the side of the road. I don't get it.
@@JoshuaTootell my VFR shows 107kph at a true GPS read 100. So, 7%. My Katana 750 was similar All of my caged vehicles are within 2%. It's weird and I hate it. Not sure why it's a thing.
I think the boat is LNG powered car carrier?
Info, I had the 2017 TV Lusso, it had electronic suspensions, and saddle bags where included in the 17k€ price, this not… sure it’s a Lusso??
Nice review. The turismo veloce lusso comes with the saddles bags? Or at least it did when I bought mine brand new last year. £15000 I paid in uk. Love it been all over it’s never missed a beat. Comfy. fast and you can really throw it into the corners. Going touring Spain and Portugal end of June can’t wait✊🏻 I agree with the weight tho and it’s high up on the bike making it abit top heavy. 👍🏻
at least the gear lever didn't fall off!
That would have been "Brutale" had it done so.
Are there any other bikes with speed limiters? Handy feature.
25 seconds in and we’ve already established that he’s going to ride another bike that’s well out of my price range.
It's the title of the vehicle. Why did you click on it?
Damn, MV Agusta makes some stunning bikes.
The bike is not heavy amongst its competitors. That's the reason why I bought one
Why pay $20k for a smaller engine triple? Would not a Tracer 9 GT+ be a better option?
Thanks for the review.
Hi Zach, if you see this I've been thinking... and I'm not sure splitting up the leaderboard into seasons is the right move. I mean, all bikes really should be compared fairly right? I know the board will get big... but there's nothing wrong with having a big board, my momma always used to tell me. Peace out
Agreed completely.
I'd like to see separate leaderboards, but separated by types of bikes: sport, touring, etc. Then we can see how similar bikes stack up against each other.
can you review the CFMoto 700CL-X Heritage?
Am I seeing it right? The front mudguard does not protect the radiator?
That was the first thing I saw. That and I think the headlight area of the fairing is ugly.
Why would it? Are you completely new to motorcycles or what? Or even to all man-made machines in general?
@@pistonburner6448 So when you drive over gravel or sand at high speed the little rocks don't damage the radiator fins or put a hole in it perhaps? There is a bunch of crud stuck in the fins at the start of the video.
@@thomasneedham1512 Exactly. It's fine. It's not an off-road bike and can handle the occasional gravel just like all other road bikes. I guess you're just not knowledgeable of high-quality modern radiators of proper bikes. Even off-road bikes' radiators have to be able to handle hits from stones since not even nearly all stones are caught by the mudguard.
It's important to have a more aerodynamic design and avoid the lift from an old fashioned antique mudguard. It's things like this which ensure MV Agusta's legendary handling.
@@pistonburner6448 It is why I have an air cooled Goose.
And I have lots of gravel on my roads here so no need to be so insulting,.
MV Agusta isn't going to give you a bike for trying to troll anyone who points out a negative. about their bikes.
Hey Zack what's the word on the Tuareg 660 daily ride entry?
I just got one, there are some very attractive finance deals that KTM seem to be driving - in the UK anyway. I m just running it in at the moment. Firestorm 637 is right, KTM are aiming to get even more premium, minimum US$27,000 apparently. This is probably my last MV (unless they want to give me one).
I know they have been around a long time, but any chance you could do a Kawi ZX-14R Ninja? I have heard they are remarkably comfortable and easy to ride, but capable of pretty crazy near H2 levels of performance in acceleration, braking, and handling, and are reasonably affordable. I would love to see your perspective on one as an around town bike!
I'd love to see the BMW F900 XR on Daily Rider. It is a fantastic middleweight bike and I'd love to see where it falls on the leaderboard.
Do you own one? What year?
Revzilla is so big, there are probably multiple purchases per second. You would need to ride a wheelie the whole ride.
saw one on the road a couple of days ago, had no idea what it was but thought it looked like a mv agusta, good to know i was right
Would love to see you review the KTM 790 or 890 Adv
Hi Zack, if you get to see this, I wonder if you weighed the bike with or without the side cases? If with the cases, I guess that would add maybe 10 or 15lbs to the measured weight? Truth is it's hard to find a wet weight measurement online and so I intend to quote yours (with a credit) in my own review video if you don't mind!
Wish Zach did one on the dragster rr. Been in the market since 2015 and on its 3rd gen now.
What a good looking machine!!! I realize that this is "Daily Rider" which is a value and practicality oriented ranking system.... BUT you don't buy a MV Agusta for value or practicality. You buy it because it is just so good looking & sounding (I dig triples). MV is a low volume boutique motorcycle manufacturer, and as such are not going to compete with the Big Four.
but the guzzi v100.. where is it?
Please review the new 2022 BMW R1250RT.
MV very exclusive similar to Ferrari/Lambo. Build around 7000 total bikes/year. Ducati builds around 60,000 bikes/ year. BMW around 180,000 bikes/year. Japanese build millions/year.
Triples are a v4 but more character
Ugh, quadlock, I am bombarded with quadlock on all my social media. It’s so bad that I have vowed to never buy quadlock because I resent the ad campaign stalking me so much! 😂
Yeah some brands really needs to chill down their spam. Seeing you every fucking where won’t make me want to be your products.
Woah sick versys 650 😜
Good to see you…very interesting motorcycle 👍
GPS phone app to test speedo accuracy?