A prequel to a spinoff to a 9 year old movie of a 40 year old franchise without its original title character and recasting the new title character. One of life's mysteries!
Yeah, but the movie is actually really good. 90% critics and 90% of fans liked it. Critical Drinker and Redlettermedia liked it. The latter said it was the best movie in 5 years.
It's probably not any reason in particular; it's all of them at once. The people that saw a potential girlboss said nope. The people that want Mad Max said nah. The people that would have been on the hype train from the previous film checked out. It's the same for the rest of the reasons, and the economy on top.
Yup. It's pretty much "all of the above" - Prequel came out way too late - Percieved as yet another "girl boss" shite - it's gonna go to streaming soon, so who cares - the economy is in the shitter and we already spent our hard earned cash on Dune 2 😂
@@savioblanc hell the economy is so bad we need to start saving money to go to mc Donald. that joke about taco bell being a chic restaurant in Demolition Man is not nearly as funny now.
True. A shame because it's apparently a really good movie, and it would be percieved as a red flag from producers, who will turn towards movies that gains money, like another Kong X Godzilla or a Fast and Furious 20 dumb product.
@@Iam-still-noone Watch the trailers. In Alien, Ripley is portrayed as a scared and vulnerable woman, and men are in the fight scenes. Then watch Furiosa trailer. Is all her fighting like a men over and over again (and her mother too). Ripley was shown as a normal woman, Furiosa as a girl boss. Based on the trailers, I would go and watch Alien but never Furiosa.
Anecdotal but I had a conversation with my mom (who is her 70s) who loves the mad max movies. She said after hearing the title was for a side character from the previous movie and main character wasn't max, she said nah.
I was running a post-apoc sci-fi ttrpg at a convention at the LAX Hilton memorial day weekend, less than 1 block from the ten-story tall Furiosa building-side ad on Century bvd. There was still more talk among my players about Garfield than Mad Max.
You mean the upcoming Blade movie with no Blade? Or a Captain America movie without Captain America? Its baffling to me how this isnt a joke to Disney.
@@googleislame And sadly, I saw it but with no regrets. It was honor to attend such inept filmmaking that I dont recall ever witnessing in theaters. It was that bad.
weirdly garfield may be in the black already. It was a low budget film that has made is budget already in foreign markets and it would not had taken much to get into profitabilty.
one issue with Just Some Guys point that its not a "anti-woke" thing since the movie is not woke is that people THINK its going to be woke. The fact that they disposed of Max in his own franchise and are making a prequel to a female character from the first movie makes it seem like they are just using the movie to sex swap the lead and get rid of Max in his own franchise. I won't watch a movie even if it seems like its going to be Woke at this point. I'm so burnt out by all the movies being nothing, but propaganda produced by people who hate me that i don't even want to watch anything at this point.
The thing is this movie is great. It's nearly as good as Fury Road. Lot of dummies missing out on an actually well done movie that doesn't resemble any of these other trash marvel/girlboss movies.
3 days of groceries costs $100. A movie ticket costs $17. People choose to eat over seeing a half way decent movie... it'll probably be on netflix for free in a month.
I also think part of it is no one really needed to know Furiosa's back story. We get to know her pretty well in Mad Max Fury Road and what we didn't know wasn't a huge deal. I don't really remember anyone begging to know her backstory after Fury Road. If anything I mostly remember people asking for more Max content. Honestly I think it comes down to some characters just are not interesting enough to warrant prequels and unfortunately I think Furiosa was one of them. Plus the way Fury Road ended kinda felt like her character was only suppose to appear one time and that Max would move on with his story. Technically he did but I think fans were expecting to move on as well and not come back to her.
The whole thing is that if Furiosa really is such an interesting person, why not do a spin-off movie about her? But Miller and the studio obviously know that Furiosa can't exist outside of the Mad Max setting, so the prequel becomes Furiosa: A Mad Max saga, cashing in on the name. This smells like the umpteenth cash-grab by a lazy studio and a lazy creator and in my opinion that's why so many people aren't even going to bother watching it. It used to be that you gave movies or series the benefit of the doubt, but these days the opposite seems to be true: they get the burden of knowledge (that they will be shit or mediocre at best).
@@tjroelsma Yes I agree. I think it's a combination of both. People who see it as a cash grab won't bother to see it. Those who don't or want to give the franchise a chance aren't interested in a Furiosa. Both are a recipe for disaster.
Her backstory was pretty obvious. She was kidnapped from the "Green Place" at a young age, ended up working for Imortan Joe, proved to be very competant, worked her way up the ladder, became one of the most trusted and powerful people in Imortan Joe's empire, then Fury Road happened.
@@swimmingmide Yes exactly. It's kinda pointless to make a prequel for her when we have all the information. Granted some prequels work like House of the Dragon but Furiosa just isn't interesting and her backstory isn't something that hasn't been done before.
@@oneesan6970 We also had the comics that spelled out how things got to the point of Fury Road. That makes it really clear how she got to her position and everything was set up. They should have done a sequel where she goes looking for Max to solve a problem and she ends up going to all the places that he helped in the past. Tie all the movies together and give her a path to lead the franchise going forward.
Basically this movie is in the same boat as Black Widow. It came out too late and from an industry that's proven time and time again they believe the audience is the enemy. No one wanted to give money to a band of people who constantly tells their paying audience they're the bad guys.
I don’t get where you see the “Men are the enemies”. Dementus is morally grey outside of having killed Furiosa’s mother and don’t forget that it already critiques toxic masculinity, Immortan Joe literally enslaves women to give him a healthy child and for milk.
@@TheLastEgg08just because we liked the girl boss movie 10 years ago doesn’t mean we feel the same today. As others have said, the well has been poisoned.
@@TheLastEgg08Using thor love and thurder is not a great example cause it came after, the start is the most important thats what keeps people engaged and keep coming back. Thats why alot of these hollywood people keep using old products cause it set a bar that they cant creatively jump over.
I think the "Girl Boss" angle is still possible. I think a lot of people looked at the Poster / Promotional materials and go with "no thanks" This is why we have a lot of "bait and switch" media out there.
I agree, but this is not a Disney Movie, it's a Warner Brothers Movie making an anti-girl boss film. It's a great action movie that looks great on a big screen. It's up there with Dune 2! The people bashing it didn't see it and they don't know what they are talking about.
@@Poisonedblade I agree that a lot of people who bashed it might not have seen the movie. Although, I think there are a lot of people who saw the promotional materials that don't care to see it, and probably don't care to bash it as well. I think a lot of people have been burnt by Hollywood recently and they have trained a whole generation of audience to be apathetic towards anything that could be perceived as woke. I think I am one of those people, I used to love cinema, but one day, I think I just had a switch flicked inside my head and stopped going to movies all together. It's nothing against people who still enjoy the movie going experience. It's unfortunate that my passion for the medium has faded.
@@Leafman716 I quit going to the movies, too. After The Force Awakens, the next movie I watched was Avengers End Game. How many years was that? Dune 2 got me to return... and I watched Furiosa, which was great. I'm excited for Deadpool and Wolverine, but that's it for the year.
@@Poisonedbladedo you think Warner Brothers hasn’t been shitting on us with girl boss movies? Harley Quinn? Yeah no one cares about this movie because mad max isn’t in it and I don’t care if the 120 pound woman they replaced him with is written well or not. This shit is like a steakhouse telling us they don’t have steak anymore, so we don’t go, and people like you get mad because they make a really good salad. Just fuck off with the girl bosses. Well written, not well written, I don’t care anymore. I’m not seeing any female led action movie again until I see a return to normalcy and strong male leads are the norm again.
I know that Fury Road lost audience because of Tom Hardy wasn't Mel Gibson, then cutting the character out completely in this one is just a huge risk. I wonder if they had done this on a shoe string budget like Godzilla Minus One, if it would have made money. Do a lot of practical effects like they did in the 80s.
@@mjhernandez984 but...who funded the movie. Hold on let me look it up. Oh yes. Village Roadshow Pictures. Which is an American company that makes Hollywood movies, as a subsidiary of an Australian company, which is in turn owned by BGH Capital, an Australian private equity company. Tldr its a Hollywood movie which makes money for an Australian investment company.
Honestly, Furiosa was okay as a one-off character for Fury Road, like the many others before her including, but not limited to, The Gyro Captain, Toecutter, Goose, Auntie Entity, amongst many others. But to me Furiosa didn't have enough pull to be interesting enough to warrant a stand-alone prequel for her. But that's just me. ADDITIONAL EDIT: Just to clarify, this is how I feel about the character. I'm not saying the character is bad or that she's poorly designed. I'm saying that, like many other characters in the franchise, I was only interested in her enough for the story she was featured in, which was Fury Road. And like the other characters, I didn't need a backstory for her any more than what was featured in the film. When it comes to her prequel film, I have no interest in seeing it just like I had no interest in the comic book prequel for her that was released at the same time as Fury Road. That is how I feel. I am expressing only how I feel, and being as honest as I can, my interest in Furiosa is only with her in Fury Road, just like any of the other one shot characters featured in the previous films in the series. I have no interest in seeing the prequel in theaters or streaming. That's not a poor reflection on the character, I just have no interest in Furiosa in anything outside of Fury Road. If they had done a prequel about Immorten Joe, or Nux, or the Brides or even the Vuvalini, I'd feel the exact same way about them as I do with Furiosa. All the characters in Fury Road are good and interesting. But I have no interest in seeing any of their backstories outside of Fury Road. Fury Road is a great film, just like the other films in the franchise (yes, I even like Beyond Thunderdome). But I don't need a back story to any of the characters from those films any more than I need one for Furiosa. Now, if you like the Furiosa film, that's good. You do you. But I am not interested in seeing a prequel about her just as much as I'm not interested in seeing a prequel to any other character.
@@mjhernandez984 I'm lying about about how I feel about a character? I didn't say she was a bad character. I said was she was an interesting character, and probably one of the better one-off characters in the franchise. But outside of Fury Road, I have no real interest in her. She didn't have anything interesting enough to want me to know her back story that already hasn't been explained (hell, there's even a prequel comic that involved Furiosa that was released at the time of Fury Road and I wasn't interested in reading that either). To me, in my point of view, Furiosa was only interesting enough for her existence in Fury Road, and, honestly, doesn't inspire me to want to see the prequel with her (be it in theaters or on streaming). My above comment is an expression of how I feel. And I'm not lying about how I feel. Baskin Robins has 32 flavors. I might like vanilla and I might like chocolate, but I have might not have interest in Rocky Road (and you saying that it's a lie because you feel Rocky Road is fantastic doesn't change how I feel). I'm not lying about how I feel. My interest in Furiosa was only as far as Fury Road, and nothing more.
But would the studio have given him money to do such a movie? George Miller can want whatever he wants, eventually he has to sell his idea to a studio and we all know what kind of people run these studios.
If you did an old man Max(Something like Logan mixed with the Road Warrior) with Mel in it, that would be a hit. And you could do it on a small budget. Have some good action sequences but try to keep it as practical as possible. Most importantly, have a solid story.
You have good points, but honestly, it's more like who was this movie made for? It's a bad market to make a movie that pulls no one to want to watch, not even for just a night out for fun because you're bored.
It was made for the modern audience that wants 5 action movies with female leads every year. You know that modern audience that spends all day on twitter and doesnt buy movie tickets.
Not enough representation. The movie itself can be absolute trash, this is not why people watch movies, they watch movies to jerk off a perceived male hero, in particular to feel good about joining the military and drone striking civilians, but in movies we remember why that's necessary. This is what is advertised, and the movie doesn't deliver what's in the title. It's like pom but the chick is making o-face for half the runtime or 90%, leaving only the other 10% for the actual grinding. Nobody is going to memorial day movies for any reason, get real. It's like going to drive-in theater, you tihnk you're going to fondle up a chick watching VVitch's face all night?
@@Ihavethetouch I went for Dune 2, Furiosa, and want to see Wolverine and Deadpool. That's it. Dune 2 was a 9. Furiosa was an 8.5. Wolverine and Deadpool should be good.
A 110lbs girl would be a harem sex toy in that universe. Mad Max was about a brutal universe, Mel Gibson with his interceptor and unbelievable real life, death-defying stunts, not CGI infested b.s.s
And yet Furiosa was the other protagonist in the previous one. She was one of Immortan Joes generals because she had proved herself in combat. Not all women in this universe are slaves, this has been established.
Even in Fury Road Max was merely a sidekick. I already was furious about it back then pun not intended. It was clear to me that they would soon replace Max with her. Even recently I hoped that Miller would not got that route. But now a new IGN interview has come out: This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character. Oh boy. I knew I was right back then.
Max wasn't really a side kick. He was cool, the girls were cool, everyone had their moments to look good. Max was competent and did what ever he could to get out of the situation he found himself in. The only reason he didn't just leave is because he couldn't. I don't remember watching the movie thinking Furosa was going to take his spot, but yea it was more her so her story. Max is a lone wandering journeying place to place. The story where he stops and changes and builds roots, to me should be the last Road Warrior story they ever tell(And they should get Gibson back for it).
@@Mord12gp Well I did. It was pretty obvious at the end of the movie. I always had the suspicion and now IGN confirmed it. Read their article wherer they go into the reasons why we don't need Max in the Mad Max world anymore. It's just nonsense.
@@EbonyPope Max is a wanderer who goes around and gets involved in other peoples stories. He is the view point character and is usually the catalyst for change. His is involvement in the story is necessary. Take Fury Road. Would the story have had a happy ending without Max pushing them in the end to go back. In that moment Max showed his fearlessness. Furosa wasn't Max and even then I don't think she was meant to replace him. And I never read the artical but I heard murmurs of it and its a dumb idea thought up by dumb woke sjws.
Miller actually said a few days ago that his next movie would be Max returning in his own prequel (before Fury Road). But it would be conditioned on performance of Furiosa. He might have to find funding outside of Warner Bros if he still wants to do it anyway, because WB isn't going to support it after seeing how Furiosa is performing thus far.
Waiting to long to make the sequel doesn't explain why it bombed on Memorial Day weekend. This thing had 4 days to make bank and the only task competition it had was the Mondays lasgna cat. I think the aversion to "Girl-Bossery" combined with the fact that Mad Max wasn't even IN this movie explains a lot of how this bombed so badly.
It came out too late. It didn't have the title character that we were expecting. The marketing seemed to emphasize that this was going to have "girl boss" in it at some point. People have been trained to not go to the movies. People can't AFFORD to go to the movies, not when it's cheaper to buy a monthly Netflix subscription for a single film. People are not happy with the entertainment industry in general. And a whole lot of other reasons that can be summed up as- It's Hollywood's fault and they're getting what they deserve.
I agree, but Disney are the ones pumping out this woke crap. This is Warner Bros, making an anti-girl boss movie. The action is great. It's very similar to the original Road Warrior. Furiosa is more like the feral kid with the boomerang, than a girl boss.
@Poisonedblade if people assumed this was yet another "girl boss" movie and rejected it sight unseen, then I have to question the marketing. If this was an "anti-girl boss" movie, it's a shame the marketing couldn't convince the potential general audience of this and convince them this was a movie they should see. Personally, although I watched Fury Road and liked the movie and Furiosa enough, however, I'm just not interested in a Furiosa prequel movie. I'd say it's not for me but I wish it all the luck in the world, however as its apparently flopped, I suppose it's a moot point. I suspect it'll find its audience on streaming.
I disagree with you that while the film MAY not be a girl boss movie it was marketed as such. That was one thing that turned my partner and I off (and one of us is a girl).
They told me I was seing things. That Max won't get replaced. I already had that suspicion back then. And now I read the new IGN article: This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character. Oh boy. I knew I was right back then.
@alfredosaint-jean9660 Oh, I don't know. Maybe ~90% of female-led action films Hollywood has released since 2016 informed that perception? But that's just a wild guess...
@alfredosaint-jean9660 Certain audience members may have looked at Furiosa being a female-led take on a pre-existing franchise and, based on previous examples of that in recent memory, assumed the worst and skipped it.
I went to see the first film in the 70s because my mates liked messing with their cars, and V8s were kings. Turned out it was a pretty good film. Times have changed.
I know why I didn't go see it - I heard there was mostly CGI in the action now and the advertisements have all been showing Fury Road clips instead of clips from Furiosa. Took it as a bad sign.
it deserves to be seen on the big screen if you are into action revenge stories regardless but sadly too many would rather feed a negative narrative into a self fulfilling prophecy instead of just going to enjoy a good piece of mythos based cinema 🤷♀️
🫢 a movie bout a straight white male still searching for a redemption arc in dealing w the death of his family and the collapse of society while wanting to be left alone yet somehow under his rough solemn exterior still finds the humanity to help others in need - 😬 👉 in this day and age unacceptable
I watched the Movie- did not understand the plot, the story, the fighting and I needed a translator to help me understand Australian Dialect. You cannot just recreate a desert road with intricate fighting like the last movie, and expect it to succeed. WE NEED MEL GIBSON< STAT!!!!
It's hard to match Mel Gibson's special Aussie version of crazy. I wasn't that big of a fan of Fury Road as my mind already has a dog, a feral kid and a sky captain as his idea mates.
In Furiosa, Praeterian Jack is like Mel Gibson's Mad Max. There are dogs. A gang of sky captains. And Furiosa is pretty much the feral kid with the boomerang. The plot is like Road Warrior.
@@Poisonedbladethere’s no mad max though. Bro no one wants to see someone else acting like the character they like, they want to see the character they like. If I go to a Batman movie I want to see Batman. I don’t want to see Azrael or whoever acting like Batman.
As I understand it, Fury Road underperformed as well. Fury Road is a great movie, but it had marketing issues. This movie is an OK movie, but it didn't have Max, it didn't have Charlize Theron, it had Hemsworth in a stupid nose, and it has Taylor-Joy as an unconvincing Tough Chick. ( and I agree that there wasn't a moment where this 115 pound girl goes toe to toe with a 250 muscle dude. But it doesn't count for the first weekend. She's unconvincing on the poster.) I have to side with the Cinema Going Experience dying. I went on Sunday. There were seven other people in the theater. Every one of them was over 30. Kids just ain't goin' to the movies anymore.
I liked the action, I thought it was really good. I saw it on Discount Tuesday at 9pm for $7. There was literally 1 other guy in a 700 seat theater. 2 of us total. In the first week. I've never seen anything like it, even for a weak movie on week 7.
So, okay, it doesnt have a 120 pound girl beating up dudes twice her size. So, it has a 120 pound girl getting beat up by dudes twice her size. Still not fun for me to watch. I want to watch a tough dude beating up other dudes (who may be a little bit bigger than him) The whole female led action movie thing just doesnt work if Hollywood insists on putting out 5 of them every year. Its fun in rare cases. When I saw this movie came out, I watched Colombiana again, and that is a pretty fun female led revenge flick with only one fist fight scene at the end. Not coincidentally, Luc Besson was involved in it. One of the few directors who can do this subgenre of film right. I just dont see a market for the amount of female centered action movies they insist on making. Do one every couple years and actually get a good script. The Long Kiss Goodnight is another great example.
@@TheSuperappelflap I don't disagree that the BadAss Woman thing isn't paying out. With the exception of Captain Marvel ( and that has a dozen caveats) The audience they're shooting for just isn't showing up. They're hoping to drive in the hidden "Women Who Want To See Tough Chick Warrior Women" crowd. And it doesn't seem that demographic exists in great numbers. I think men will go... I know plenty of dudes beside myself who love Atomic Blonde, Aliens, Kill Bill, Wonder Woman( the first) and Long Kiss Goodnight, (plus Black Widow, the character)...But the majority of women DON'T dig it. But I think the movies mentioned have the element where the abilities are earned. Only ONE of the above was an un-caveated success. And she was an Immortal Goddess. The Movie Machinery hasn't found the formula.....yet.
@@guyjperson the difference is, if you make a good action/thriller movie with a female lead, it can work. Where they mostly get through with espionage, stealth, and outsmarting people. Not if it's a dumb action movie. Atomic Blonde fell in that category for me as well. I really didn't like it. Charlize Theron is good-looking, or was, but she isn't an action movie lead. Every time now that Hollywood puts out a movie like that it just reeks of the "girls can do everything boys do" modern messaging crap. Aliens had some female marines but iirc they weren't fighting roided up 250 pound men in that movie, they just shot machine guns at aliens. And they weren't the sole lead character of the movie.
@@guyjperson Look at, idk, Salt, with Angelina Jolie. Not a great film but not terrible either. She doesn't just get in fist fights, she mostly just lies and manipulates people until the end of the film where she fights Liev Schreiber.
I went to the theater earlier tonight. Saw posters for Garfielosa (an attempt to re-create Barbenheimer) on my way to watch a re-release of the original 1994 The Crow. Yes, I paid to see a 30 year old movie in a theater. Was well worth it. Until Hollywood remembers why it's there, and who it's making movies for, I guess I'm just not interested in anything new. I'll go see Deadpool+Wolverine, but I don't even think Marvel Jesus will be able to save the year.
I like how Immortan Joe and Chris Hemsworth's character had a war that we the audience didn't get to see any of. It just gets skipped over towards the end of the movie. It had a great middle with lots of action but a really slow beginning and really boring end of the movie.
#1 I won't forgive George Miller for not appraoching Gibson about Mad Max 4. Controvrersial or not. #2 I won't forgive Mad Max 4 for having almost nothing to do with Max in it. #3 The second I heard there'd be a spinoff about Furiosa, I 100% knew it woudn't get my money or time. I only watch the Mad Max films for Max. Otherwise I'm keeping my money in my wallet.
Dude finally. Yes the stunts were great but Max was just a sidekick. He was irrelevant to the plot since it was Furiosa who was pushing things along. By the way the suspicions were right that I had. They always told me that I was paranoid. But IGN confirmed it in the new interview: This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character. That's a quote from the article which goes into why we don't need Max anymore. It's just pathetic and I won't forgive Miller for that.
I've never understood this desire for prequels. If the original did its job, we know the characters basic back story, so why does it need further detailing, who asks for it?
I wonder how much unintended damage the marketing did. Most people probably never even thought of Furiosa within the last like 6 years yet here she is all of a sudden, sporting the subtitle of 'A Mad Max Saga' without any Max. No wonder most people likely thought this would be just another current year Girl Boss sludge, and hey it has Chris Hemsworth, a man who is no stranger to selling himself for a portrayal as a complete buffoon that only looks good. I am super glad none of those expectations came true but how many people will hear about that and then care enough to support the Movie?
Furiosa had her time in Fury Road. What make Furiosa so special we need a prequel just for her? we didn't even get one for Max. No fan of Mad Max want Hardy or Furiosa, we want Mel.
@@guyjperson I think he could go for a last one as old Max. The guy kept himself in shape. Watch him in Dragged across concrete. The guy is still really fit. He could do it but Miller probably won't. It's better to let it rest. Better to enjoy a good thing than to destry its legacy.
IGN just confirmed my suspicion: This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character. So they did plan on replacing him with Furiosa. I knew it.
Max has an origin movie honestly. It’s called Mad Max from 1979. The problem is Max is the face of the franchise, passive protagonist or not. No reason to call this film a mad max saga. Thought it was good but they made a mistake thinking Furiosa had a following on her own as a character. Honestly Max and Furiosa complimented each other as dual protagonists and that’s where the intrigue was
If you take me as a sample of one, here is why I didn't watch: 1) "I didn't ask for this movie" 2) Tired of sequels/prequels 3) Tired of Girl Boss movies (even when not Mary Sues) This coming from someone who paid for cinema ticket to see The Menu and absolutely loved it. Anya is a great actor but I just want to see more original scripts/movies.
The fact that Furiosa isn't a girlboss movie doesn't mean its opening revenues can't have been hurt by people being tired of girlboss movies. It's not difficult to imagine people assuming it was one based solely on how many have been pumped out over the past several years. Remember, JSG, situations perceived as real are real in their consequences.
Yeah, the trailer looks like a girl boss movie, but the actual movie is her getting beaten up by every dude because she's a 120lb woman. She's just a sniper who works for Praetorian Jack. He's similar to Mel from Road Warrior.
@@Poisonedblade I still dont want to watch a movie about a girl getting beat up. I want to watch a movie about Mad Max beating up dudes and blowing stuff up and saving the girl(s). Its not rocket science.
@@mjhernandez984 because the new stuff is worse than what was made decades ago. More CGI and bigger budgets doesn't make up for lack of soul. It's just corporate overproduced crap.
The biggest complaint about Fury Road was: there was not enough Mad Max on it. When the actress that played Furiosa said she should get a movie, the thought was: sorry, you already fooled us with the bait and switch once, now you are saying there won't be a Mad Max on it, so it's a hard no. If Mad Max is a bad IP, 40 years+ with no fans, why was it called: Furiosa "A Mad Max Saga"? They were trying to bait Mad Max fans and action hero movies fans. The first Mad was a flop and the sequels were not that great, but they had 20 years+ to create a cult following, I would watch another Mad Max film with Mad Max, just for the action and entertainment it would have. I was disappointed by Fury Road, they could have made it without Mad Max, and it would be the same movie, but there wouldn't be any attention to it before releasing, no expectations created by the IP, and now fans to talk about it and hype it up.
Two words for you: too much. When you saturate a market with too much product, inevitably the majority of consumers become more choosy with the glut of options available. They buy what and how they choose, not what and how the vendors dictate. If pricing in competitive, mediocre to low-quality offerings get ignored. As do products for which the consumer has seen no marketing.
1. waited 10 years to release a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. 2. when the fans (Customers) question things they get called names and slurred. 3. the pandemic taught the normies to stay home and urged to consume streaming. 4. Most recent movies are written and acted by sub-par talent. 5. being in a cinema with lots of people, may not be safe. 5a. in the cinema some crazy person may act up and stage a crime. 6. the Economy! what's the current price for a family of four to see a movie at the cinema? 6a. struggling under inflation, buy groceries or go to the cinema for a movie? 7. I can list more reasons to boycott.
I literally didn't even know this movie had come out until I started seeing the videos talking about how it bombed. So I am going to take a swing and guess that a good portion of it was the fact they apparently didn't do any advertising for it.
She looks like someone left the clothes iron on her face for too long. There are 5 blonde waitresses on my town square that are better looking. Shes just being pushed as the next thing, her only features are being blonde and white and not overweight.
There's a clear rhyme and reason to it all. People want genuinely well written works with interesting plots and characters people care abou. Furiosa had most of that, but was a prequel which released too late and lacked Mad Max. The plot was less interesting because we know what happens next. Mad Max is the character people care the most about in the Mad Max saga. There's also the problem with general audience fatigue as there's been too many bad movies and the cost to see them is high.
The thing is this prequel was supposed to come out not long after Fury Road but WB screwed over Miller when it came to his pay check and supposed bonus. Back then I’d have loved to go see it as Fury Road is still my favourite Mad Max film but now I’m just not that bothered.
There is also the argument that the story of Furiosa was already told in Fury Road and also there is the fact that Fury Road isn't about Mad Max but about Furiosa and her obstacles and Max simply is there to help, which is a fact, it wasn't his journey but Furiosa.
Let’s completely ignore the slop Hollywood pushed for the last decade because it definitely didn’t warp the populace’s perception of female led action films. Hollywood is to blame, plain and simple.
Another guess I have is that Garfield is more of a family movie than Furiosa. So families will easily pick an funny animated cat movie on a holiday over something like Mad Max.
I think you're highly underestimating the Mad Max influence. It went on to inspire Fist of the North Star, which then went on to inspire JoJo as well as Berserk. Madmax in a bubble may not be that well known, but just like for instance Metroid it's influence far exceeds it's own individual sales and people get to learn what inspired the works they do enjoy. I can't prove it, but I'm sure half of the people who went to see Fury Road were Max fans and seeing him demoted to a sidekick role didn't sit well with them. Then the follow up movie, which came way to late didn't even bother to include him. It was a recipe for disaster.
I didnt even watch Fury Road because it was clear from the marketing it was going to be Furiosa Road. Charlize Theron is/was a very goodlooking woman but I saw her do action in films like Atomic Blonde and it was not good. I dont want to see her, I want to see Mad Max. I heard positive things about the film but I still havent watched it, not even for free, and Im not going to. Hollywood should stop resurrecting finished trilogies from decades ago anyway. Theyre now going to make another LOTR movie, like can you just stop? There are plenty of good books out there that have fanbases of millions that havent been adapted well, or existing bad adaptations that do deserve a remake. Theres no need to try to remake something thats already good or make sequels and prequels to stories that are finished.
@@Goodbutevilgenius No I didn't go see it because I don't want to support Hollywood milking trilogies that finished decades ago and then that other bad movie reinforced that I don't want to see Charlize Theron in action movies anyway.
Like with any industry, Hollywood is trying to sell a product. The market is saying that product isn’t worth the cost in time and money. Based on Barbie and Oppenheimer vs Furiosa and marvel, id say people want original content or stories that aren’t just an addition to an established franchise. Franchises can be a barrier as much as a magnet
3:38 That's me tbh. I hate prequel, and if I'm going to see a Mad Max movie, it should be starring Mad Max. It may not be the traditional "girl boss" movie, but it's still a woman taking over the starring role, from a man, in an action film, yet again. I just think people are tired of that trope at this point tbh. This series is about Max, and quite frankly the 4th film was already pushing it, in that regard. Pretty sure the bulk of this film's box office came from men, yet again, as well.
Yeah Fury road had nice stunts but that was it. Of course she had to be able to easily disarm Max etc. Not really a girl boss but as you said close to it. That and Max was practically irrelevant to the plot until mid-film. It was Furiosa who took the wives of Immortan Joe and the whole movie was about her. I have bad news for you. Read the new IGN article. It is confirmed. They want to replace Max. That is what I said all along when I first saw Furiosa as a character: This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
Even if the movie isnt about a 120 pound girl beating up guys twice her size, that means its a movie about a 120 pound girl getting beat up by guys twice her size. It still doesnt appeal to me. Im not into snuff films. I want a movie about a 200 pound guy beating up dudes that are about his size or maybe a little bit bigger, you know to make them intimidating but not too much bigger it becomes unrealistic.
It's not actually that surprising and you do still see a logical throughline though. For example: Why did Barbie do well? Why did the Puss in Boots Movie do well? Both of them catered to a specific audience and served what they advertised. I didn't like Barbie, but it was a movie made for woman and actually aimed at woman in a way, so people went and it looked like a diamond next to all the burned out charcoal. Puss in Boots was simply a good movie, which might not have done so well in an era with less bile on the big screen. Furiosa? Well, it might actually be a good movie, but it's about a character nobody really cared about, as a sequel to a movie that didn't even do so drastically well to be honest, with the vibe of a stereotypical girl boss movie. So, yeah, it wasn't one, but people didn't believe it anymore. And ALL the other things you mentioned just piled onto that, so here we are. It's not surprising, or is it really?
Even if it's not a girl-boss movie, and is actually good, it LOOKS like a girl-boss movie from the marketing, and that is a giant red flag. The anti-woke pendulum is swinging the other way and even Aliens might bomb today, even if it's not woke.
So if it's not a girlboss movie and it advertises itself as a mad max movie with no max... it's just another franchise cashgrab? I guess I don't see the appeal in even looking into it.
@@mc1993 My bar is incredibly low if the price is free. If I'm paying for it... I sort of expect something more than "Well, that was a thing I watched."
It's not a girl boss movie. It's really similar to Road Warrior with Mel Gibson. Furiosa is like that feral kid with the boomerang. The plot is Dr. Dementus vs Immortan Joe for Gas Town and Bullet Farm. It's a fun, big screen, action movie. 8.5/10. The only other movie I watched in theaters this year was Dune 2. 9/10. I'm looking forward to Wolverine and Deadpool.
3:46 how does Mad Max not being in a Mad Max movie and me not wanting to watch it mean I am well versed in Mad Max lore? I've never seen a Mad Max movie and avoided watching Furiosa (which I thought looked really cool and it did good work towards convincing me to actually watch a Mad Max movie) because I wanted to watch a movie with the titular "Mad Max" first since it seems like the natural starting place.
You realize this is a based movie where a 120lb woman gets her ass kicked by everyone because she is a 120 lb woman, right? She's pretty much just a sniper working for Praetorian Jack who drives the war rig in the war for Gas Town and Bullet Farm.
Top Gun Maverick has Tom Cruise, literally the last marketable action movie star, and its about the US military, of course that makes money. Americans will always pay to convince themselves they are the good guys.
Furiosa bombed because it was a Furiosa movie, not a Mad Max movie. They tried to get people with the title but barely anyone fell for it. On top of it, the intrigue of Furiosa's back story was more interesting than actually seeing it. On top of that, it is "just" another big blockbuster movie with lots of action and some comedy with a tragic hero. People are tired of that. My guess is that smaller and experimental movies will be more popular. That or someone finds another fad like comic based movies.
I think is a combo of a few issues. You are correct, it came out too late. But other factors, movies have to be exceptional to entice us to not to wait until streaming, economy is also a factor, poor marketing
The movie was just OK. People want Mad Max, not this. Furiosa, and her mom, was a MarySue, and the script was dumb, and men were incompetent. Important actions in one scene forgotten by the next. Rotten Tomatoes scores are paid for with the hundreds of early 5 star reviews by new accounts that have only 1 film reviewed. Anya was miscast, she should never have taken the role.
Personally, I didn't go see it because it didn't have Mad Max in it. It really seems like they were trying to do an Indiana Jones and replace the Mad Max character with a Girl Boss/Mary Sue (like they attempted to do with Pheobe Waller Bridge in the original script of Indiana 5).
Society is changing. Back in the 20th century, films were still events that people WENT to. As we moved into the 21st century, though, digital and streaming services slowly gained ascendancy. Going to the theater involved spending exorbitant amounts of money on concessions if kids were involved, as well as having to schedule time to go. Today, people can watch from their own homes, whenever THEY choose, and eat or drink whatever they wish. And they can do it repeatedly. I believe we are seeing the slow death of the movie theater industry, just as we began seeing the death of malls once online ordering became the norm. It now takes a REALLY special and well-marketed production to draw conventional theater audiences.
I actually liked Furiosa. The actress in the last recent movies i've seen her in which she did action roles she really commits to them. I've gain respect for her acting as a result. Once again in this she plays the character well, she has the right emotions, and delivers her role at the right times. I even felt the actress who played her younger self did well. That said though it's not something i'd call amazing, but it's a nice action flick to kick back to.
No it would not have done better. Max was written on the package but everybody knew that no Max was in it. It would not have fared better or only marginally better. Why watch a movie that does not contain the main draw and is just a facsimile or the former movie?
It's not that Furiosa is a 'girl boss' movie (it isn't), it's that it's being perceived as one because of the way it's being marketed. If the audience have to actually see the movie or hear word of mouth reviews telling them it's not going to be what they think it is, then the marketing and PR has failed. Also, this movie was always going to be a hard sell to a general audience without Mad Max in it. Halloween 3 is a really good movie as well but back when it released, it bombed and was soundly rejected by the audience due to not having Micheal Myers (asides from a brief moment where a clip of the original Halloween movie is show on a TV screen).
One single reason. No one cares or cared about her....we watched Mad Max Fury Road for, get this, Mad Max. And it was good and tolerable in contrasts to the original. This is your typical girl boss piggy back on a man made franchise...Yawn, hard pass.
A prequel to a spinoff to a 9 year old movie of a 40 year old franchise without its original title character and recasting the new title character. One of life's mysteries!
^^Pretty much nailed it.
and with a genderswap.
While in an environment, where you don't have to wait a year for a VHS/ DVD release but can expect to stream the movie within months...
Yeah, but the movie is actually really good. 90% critics and 90% of fans liked it. Critical Drinker and Redlettermedia liked it. The latter said it was the best movie in 5 years.
@@Poisonedbladehell I’m going to see it again with more people
It's probably not any reason in particular; it's all of them at once. The people that saw a potential girlboss said nope. The people that want Mad Max said nah. The people that would have been on the hype train from the previous film checked out. It's the same for the rest of the reasons, and the economy on top.
@infinityryvus
This is the correct answer. Its a case of "all of the above".
Yup.
It's pretty much "all of the above"
- Prequel came out way too late
- Percieved as yet another "girl boss" shite
- it's gonna go to streaming soon, so who cares
- the economy is in the shitter and we already spent our hard earned cash on Dune 2 😂
@@savioblanc hell the economy is so bad we need to start saving money to go to mc Donald. that joke about taco bell being a chic restaurant in Demolition Man is not nearly as funny now.
True. A shame because it's apparently a really good movie, and it would be percieved as a red flag from producers, who will turn towards movies that gains money, like another Kong X Godzilla or a Fast and Furious 20 dumb product.
Yeah, confluence of different factors. The importance of each factor will vary by person.
Thing is, it doesnt matter if its not an actual girl boss movie, it only matters if it looks like one
Yeah, Hollywood has shit the bed so hard with female-led action movies lately that they've caused a general wariness about them.
@@javonyounger5107 and it's not gonna go away anytime soon.
🤔 i wonder if the character Ripley from the Alien films would fail in this day an age cause of the (girl boss) thing
@@Iam-still-noone Watch the trailers. In Alien, Ripley is portrayed as a scared and vulnerable woman, and men are in the fight scenes. Then watch Furiosa trailer. Is all her fighting like a men over and over again (and her mother too). Ripley was shown as a normal woman, Furiosa as a girl boss. Based on the trailers, I would go and watch Alien but never Furiosa.
Yeah I'm not giving Hollywood the time of day anymore.
Anecdotal but I had a conversation with my mom (who is her 70s) who loves the mad max movies. She said after hearing the title was for a side character from the previous movie and main character wasn't max, she said nah.
tend to agree. if i have any objections, it's that they pushed this as a mad max movie without max
I was running a post-apoc sci-fi ttrpg at a convention at the LAX Hilton memorial day weekend, less than 1 block from the ten-story tall Furiosa building-side ad on Century bvd.
There was still more talk among my players about Garfield than Mad Max.
notice she didn't reject the movie out of anger, but just bored disinterest
@@holdingpattern245 Exactly, my mom is a "normie" by internet standards, but she lost interest instantly due to the lack of Max.
If she liked Fury Road, I don't see why she wouldn't like this one. It was a good movie.
I'm pretty sure that a Superman film without Superman would bomb, too.
It would be something like....
"Superwoman.....a Superman Saga"
And he makes an appearance for 5 minutes or less just to boost her ego 🤦♂️
The Jimmy Olsen comic sold very well at its time.
You mean the upcoming Blade movie with no Blade? Or a Captain America movie without Captain America? Its baffling to me how this isnt a joke to Disney.
Madame Web was literally a Spider-Man movie without Spider-Man. And we all saw how that did. No need to speculate.
@@googleislame And sadly, I saw it but with no regrets. It was honor to attend such inept filmmaking that I dont recall ever witnessing in theaters. It was that bad.
Garfield won doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Typical Garfield. 🤣
Omg hilarious!
weirdly garfield may be in the black already. It was a low budget film that has made is budget already in foreign markets and it would not had taken much to get into profitabilty.
That orange cat is American ever green, if it flops were truly in hard times
I Hate Mondays......
...box office receipts
With a third of the budget and double the international box office of Furiosa, Garfield really takes this home right now.
Same reason Madame Web and Harley Quinn did. Nobody wants to see a franchise movie without the character the franchise is actually based on
Didn't help that both movies were crap.
@@chrisbaker8533 it did not. I dare say that hindered them somewhat
@@SergioHernandez-le8wp one more dirty diaper for the dumpster fire.
@chrisbaker8533 hell yeah.... and that dumpster's been getting pretty full lately, too
@@chrisbaker8533 It didn't but even if they were good it wouldn't have helped.
I think that people feel disenfranchised by Hollywood. We're tired of becoming presumed upon and served soulless flashy fodder.
I don't bother with new movies anymore. I've been disappointed too many times. I was going to make a similar comment but instead just replying here.
one issue with Just Some Guys point that its not a "anti-woke" thing since the movie is not woke is that people THINK its going to be woke. The fact that they disposed of Max in his own franchise and are making a prequel to a female character from the first movie makes it seem like they are just using the movie to sex swap the lead and get rid of Max in his own franchise. I won't watch a movie even if it seems like its going to be Woke at this point. I'm so burnt out by all the movies being nothing, but propaganda produced by people who hate me that i don't even want to watch anything at this point.
The thing is this movie is great. It's nearly as good as Fury Road. Lot of dummies missing out on an actually well done movie that doesn't resemble any of these other trash marvel/girlboss movies.
@@jareddavis2125 Why do they call it a "Mad Max Saga?"
@@kenknowlton3085 The same reason why Rouge One was called " A Star Wars Story" It takes place in that universe.
3 days of groceries costs $100. A movie ticket costs $17. People choose to eat over seeing a half way decent movie... it'll probably be on netflix for free in a month.
HBO Max for Warner Bros movies. In 4-8 weeks.
Bros acting like we're in Africa or something
I also think part of it is no one really needed to know Furiosa's back story. We get to know her pretty well in Mad Max Fury Road and what we didn't know wasn't a huge deal. I don't really remember anyone begging to know her backstory after Fury Road. If anything I mostly remember people asking for more Max content. Honestly I think it comes down to some characters just are not interesting enough to warrant prequels and unfortunately I think Furiosa was one of them. Plus the way Fury Road ended kinda felt like her character was only suppose to appear one time and that Max would move on with his story. Technically he did but I think fans were expecting to move on as well and not come back to her.
The whole thing is that if Furiosa really is such an interesting person, why not do a spin-off movie about her? But Miller and the studio obviously know that Furiosa can't exist outside of the Mad Max setting, so the prequel becomes Furiosa: A Mad Max saga, cashing in on the name. This smells like the umpteenth cash-grab by a lazy studio and a lazy creator and in my opinion that's why so many people aren't even going to bother watching it.
It used to be that you gave movies or series the benefit of the doubt, but these days the opposite seems to be true: they get the burden of knowledge (that they will be shit or mediocre at best).
@@tjroelsma Yes I agree. I think it's a combination of both. People who see it as a cash grab won't bother to see it. Those who don't or want to give the franchise a chance aren't interested in a Furiosa. Both are a recipe for disaster.
Her backstory was pretty obvious. She was kidnapped from the "Green Place" at a young age, ended up working for Imortan Joe, proved to be very competant, worked her way up the ladder, became one of the most trusted and powerful people in Imortan Joe's empire, then Fury Road happened.
@@swimmingmide Yes exactly. It's kinda pointless to make a prequel for her when we have all the information. Granted some prequels work like House of the Dragon but Furiosa just isn't interesting and her backstory isn't something that hasn't been done before.
@@oneesan6970 We also had the comics that spelled out how things got to the point of Fury Road. That makes it really clear how she got to her position and everything was set up. They should have done a sequel where she goes looking for Max to solve a problem and she ends up going to all the places that he helped in the past. Tie all the movies together and give her a path to lead the franchise going forward.
Basically this movie is in the same boat as Black Widow. It came out too late and from an industry that's proven time and time again they believe the audience is the enemy. No one wanted to give money to a band of people who constantly tells their paying audience they're the bad guys.
Black Widow is a terrible movie.
I don’t get where you see the “Men are the enemies”. Dementus is morally grey outside of having killed Furiosa’s mother and don’t forget that it already critiques toxic masculinity, Immortan Joe literally enslaves women to give him a healthy child and for milk.
@@TheLastEgg08just because we liked the girl boss movie 10 years ago doesn’t mean we feel the same today. As others have said, the well has been poisoned.
@@plagueofjoe Yeah but it’s not the same for Furiosa. It’s like saying all Marvel movies are bad cause Thor Love and Thunder is bad.
@@TheLastEgg08Using thor love and thurder is not a great example cause it came after, the start is the most important thats what keeps people engaged and keep coming back. Thats why alot of these hollywood people keep using old products cause it set a bar that they cant creatively jump over.
A Mad Max movie without Mad Max. What could go wrong?
I think the "Girl Boss" angle is still possible. I think a lot of people looked at the Poster / Promotional materials and go with "no thanks"
This is why we have a lot of "bait and switch" media out there.
Exactly. They have burned audiences too many times. You don't get to torch good will forever.
I agree, but this is not a Disney Movie, it's a Warner Brothers Movie making an anti-girl boss film. It's a great action movie that looks great on a big screen. It's up there with Dune 2!
The people bashing it didn't see it and they don't know what they are talking about.
@@Poisonedblade I agree that a lot of people who bashed it might not have seen the movie.
Although, I think there are a lot of people who saw the promotional materials that don't care to see it, and probably don't care to bash it as well.
I think a lot of people have been burnt by Hollywood recently and they have trained a whole generation of audience to be apathetic towards anything that could be perceived as woke.
I think I am one of those people, I used to love cinema, but one day, I think I just had a switch flicked inside my head and stopped going to movies all together.
It's nothing against people who still enjoy the movie going experience. It's unfortunate that my passion for the medium has faded.
@@Leafman716 I quit going to the movies, too. After The Force Awakens, the next movie I watched was Avengers End Game. How many years was that?
Dune 2 got me to return... and I watched Furiosa, which was great. I'm excited for Deadpool and Wolverine, but that's it for the year.
@@Poisonedbladedo you think Warner Brothers hasn’t been shitting on us with girl boss movies? Harley Quinn?
Yeah no one cares about this movie because mad max isn’t in it and I don’t care if the 120 pound woman they replaced him with is written well or not.
This shit is like a steakhouse telling us they don’t have steak anymore, so we don’t go, and people like you get mad because they make a really good salad.
Just fuck off with the girl bosses. Well written, not well written, I don’t care anymore. I’m not seeing any female led action movie again until I see a return to normalcy and strong male leads are the norm again.
No Mad Max....No Audience. Simple Math. Hollywood not too smarty smarts methinks.
mad math
I know that Fury Road lost audience because of Tom Hardy wasn't Mel Gibson, then cutting the character out completely in this one is just a huge risk. I wonder if they had done this on a shoe string budget like Godzilla Minus One, if it would have made money. Do a lot of practical effects like they did in the 80s.
Blacklisting Mel Gibson is one of the bad decisions Hollywood has made.
George Miller directed and wrote the movie. Not Hollywood.
@@mjhernandez984 but...who funded the movie. Hold on let me look it up. Oh yes. Village Roadshow Pictures. Which is an American company that makes Hollywood movies, as a subsidiary of an Australian company, which is in turn owned by BGH Capital, an Australian private equity company.
Tldr its a Hollywood movie which makes money for an Australian investment company.
I believe you are overthinking it. It's a Mad Max movie with no Mad Max. How much lore do you need to know to expect Max in a Mad Max movie?
So much this.
Honestly, Furiosa was okay as a one-off character for Fury Road, like the many others before her including, but not limited to, The Gyro Captain, Toecutter, Goose, Auntie Entity, amongst many others. But to me Furiosa didn't have enough pull to be interesting enough to warrant a stand-alone prequel for her. But that's just me.
ADDITIONAL EDIT: Just to clarify, this is how I feel about the character. I'm not saying the character is bad or that she's poorly designed. I'm saying that, like many other characters in the franchise, I was only interested in her enough for the story she was featured in, which was Fury Road. And like the other characters, I didn't need a backstory for her any more than what was featured in the film. When it comes to her prequel film, I have no interest in seeing it just like I had no interest in the comic book prequel for her that was released at the same time as Fury Road. That is how I feel. I am expressing only how I feel, and being as honest as I can, my interest in Furiosa is only with her in Fury Road, just like any of the other one shot characters featured in the previous films in the series. I have no interest in seeing the prequel in theaters or streaming. That's not a poor reflection on the character, I just have no interest in Furiosa in anything outside of Fury Road. If they had done a prequel about Immorten Joe, or Nux, or the Brides or even the Vuvalini, I'd feel the exact same way about them as I do with Furiosa. All the characters in Fury Road are good and interesting. But I have no interest in seeing any of their backstories outside of Fury Road. Fury Road is a great film, just like the other films in the franchise (yes, I even like Beyond Thunderdome). But I don't need a back story to any of the characters from those films any more than I need one for Furiosa. Now, if you like the Furiosa film, that's good. You do you. But I am not interested in seeing a prequel about her just as much as I'm not interested in seeing a prequel to any other character.
I'm the same. She was fine in Fury Road but I'm not all that interested in a Furiosa prequel movie. I'll watch it on streaming at some point.
I totally agree with you. Exactly the reason I was not interested to begin with
Agreed. After Fury Road, all i ever wanted was a sequel. Not a prequel
That is a damn lie. She was a fantastic character
@@mjhernandez984 I'm lying about about how I feel about a character? I didn't say she was a bad character. I said was she was an interesting character, and probably one of the better one-off characters in the franchise. But outside of Fury Road, I have no real interest in her. She didn't have anything interesting enough to want me to know her back story that already hasn't been explained (hell, there's even a prequel comic that involved Furiosa that was released at the time of Fury Road and I wasn't interested in reading that either). To me, in my point of view, Furiosa was only interesting enough for her existence in Fury Road, and, honestly, doesn't inspire me to want to see the prequel with her (be it in theaters or on streaming). My above comment is an expression of how I feel. And I'm not lying about how I feel. Baskin Robins has 32 flavors. I might like vanilla and I might like chocolate, but I have might not have interest in Rocky Road (and you saying that it's a lie because you feel Rocky Road is fantastic doesn't change how I feel). I'm not lying about how I feel. My interest in Furiosa was only as far as Fury Road, and nothing more.
All George Miller had to do was make another MAD MAX movie. Emphasis on Max.
Time for him to retire
Emphasis on Mel Gibson.
But would the studio have given him money to do such a movie? George Miller can want whatever he wants, eventually he has to sell his idea to a studio and we all know what kind of people run these studios.
Yea, the studio money men have to "put a chick in it and make her Gay". It's all about checking boxes.
If you did an old man Max(Something like Logan mixed with the Road Warrior) with Mel in it, that would be a hit. And you could do it on a small budget. Have some good action sequences but try to keep it as practical as possible. Most importantly, have a solid story.
You have good points, but honestly, it's more like who was this movie made for? It's a bad market to make a movie that pulls no one to want to watch, not even for just a night out for fun because you're bored.
It was made for the modern audience that wants 5 action movies with female leads every year. You know that modern audience that spends all day on twitter and doesnt buy movie tickets.
Going to the movies is too expensive these days.
I would still go if the movies were worth it
@@Ihavethetouch dedpul 3
Not enough representation. The movie itself can be absolute trash, this is not why people watch movies, they watch movies to jerk off a perceived male hero, in particular to feel good about joining the military and drone striking civilians, but in movies we remember why that's necessary. This is what is advertised, and the movie doesn't deliver what's in the title. It's like pom but the chick is making o-face for half the runtime or 90%, leaving only the other 10% for the actual grinding.
Nobody is going to memorial day movies for any reason, get real. It's like going to drive-in theater, you tihnk you're going to fondle up a chick watching VVitch's face all night?
@@Ihavethetouch I went for Dune 2, Furiosa, and want to see Wolverine and Deadpool. That's it.
Dune 2 was a 9. Furiosa was an 8.5. Wolverine and Deadpool should be good.
Meh. It's less than $10 a ticket where I'm from that's not really expensive. I waste more than that on fast food
im tired of seeing the sane 5 actors/actresses in movies
A 110lbs girl would be a harem sex toy in that universe. Mad Max was about a brutal universe, Mel Gibson with his interceptor and unbelievable real life, death-defying stunts, not CGI infested b.s.s
In the trilogy it seemed as if anyone could be harmed at any moment!
And yet Furiosa was the other protagonist in the previous one. She was one of Immortan Joes generals because she had proved herself in combat. Not all women in this universe are slaves, this has been established.
Even in Fury Road Max was merely a sidekick. I already was furious about it back then pun not intended. It was clear to me that they would soon replace Max with her. Even recently I hoped that Miller would not got that route. But now a new IGN interview has come out:
This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
Oh boy. I knew I was right back then.
Max wasn't really a side kick. He was cool, the girls were cool, everyone had their moments to look good. Max was competent and did what ever he could to get out of the situation he found himself in. The only reason he didn't just leave is because he couldn't. I don't remember watching the movie thinking Furosa was going to take his spot, but yea it was more her so her story. Max is a lone wandering journeying place to place. The story where he stops and changes and builds roots, to me should be the last Road Warrior story they ever tell(And they should get Gibson back for it).
@@Mord12gp Well I did. It was pretty obvious at the end of the movie. I always had the suspicion and now IGN confirmed it. Read their article wherer they go into the reasons why we don't need Max in the Mad Max world anymore. It's just nonsense.
@@EbonyPope Max is a wanderer who goes around and gets involved in other peoples stories. He is the view point character and is usually the catalyst for change. His is involvement in the story is necessary. Take Fury Road. Would the story have had a happy ending without Max pushing them in the end to go back. In that moment Max showed his fearlessness.
Furosa wasn't Max and even then I don't think she was meant to replace him. And I never read the artical but I heard murmurs of it and its a dumb idea thought up by dumb woke sjws.
Miller actually said a few days ago that his next movie would be Max returning in his own prequel (before Fury Road). But it would be conditioned on performance of Furiosa. He might have to find funding outside of Warner Bros if he still wants to do it anyway, because WB isn't going to support it after seeing how Furiosa is performing thus far.
Shouldve called it Furiosa Road. She was the main character.
Waiting to long to make the sequel doesn't explain why it bombed on Memorial Day weekend.
This thing had 4 days to make bank and the only task competition it had was the Mondays lasgna cat. I think the aversion to "Girl-Bossery" combined with the fact that Mad Max wasn't even IN this movie explains a lot of how this bombed so badly.
Hollywood and mainly Marvel burned through all of the movie going public's good will.
It came out too late.
It didn't have the title character that we were expecting.
The marketing seemed to emphasize that this was going to have "girl boss" in it at some point.
People have been trained to not go to the movies.
People can't AFFORD to go to the movies, not when it's cheaper to buy a monthly Netflix subscription for a single film.
People are not happy with the entertainment industry in general.
And a whole lot of other reasons that can be summed up as-
It's Hollywood's fault and they're getting what they deserve.
I agree, but Disney are the ones pumping out this woke crap.
This is Warner Bros, making an anti-girl boss movie. The action is great. It's very similar to the original Road Warrior. Furiosa is more like the feral kid with the boomerang, than a girl boss.
@Poisonedblade if people assumed this was yet another "girl boss" movie and rejected it sight unseen, then I have to question the marketing. If this was an "anti-girl boss" movie, it's a shame the marketing couldn't convince the potential general audience of this and convince them this was a movie they should see.
Personally, although I watched Fury Road and liked the movie and Furiosa enough, however, I'm just not interested in a Furiosa prequel movie.
I'd say it's not for me but I wish it all the luck in the world, however as its apparently flopped, I suppose it's a moot point.
I suspect it'll find its audience on streaming.
I disagree with you that while the film MAY not be a girl boss movie it was marketed as such. That was one thing that turned my partner and I off (and one of us is a girl).
They told me I was seing things. That Max won't get replaced. I already had that suspicion back then. And now I read the new IGN article:
This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
Oh boy. I knew I was right back then.
Yep. Just watch the trailer. Even her mother is a girl boss, fighting like a men in every scene. Ridiculous.
Cause no one wants to watch a perceived “girl boss” movie that is lacking the main character of the franchise 10 years after the last movie
"Perceived" is the important part.
What gives them that idea?
Yet Hollywood still is clueless about this logic.
@alfredosaint-jean9660
Oh, I don't know. Maybe ~90% of female-led action films Hollywood has released since 2016 informed that perception? But that's just a wild guess...
@@bigboi5545 And what does that have to do with this movie?
@alfredosaint-jean9660
Certain audience members may have looked at Furiosa being a female-led take on a pre-existing franchise and, based on previous examples of that in recent memory, assumed the worst and skipped it.
I went to see the first film in the 70s because my mates liked messing with their cars, and V8s were kings. Turned out it was a pretty good film. Times have changed.
Among other things, most people have better things to spend their money on.
I know why I didn't go see it - I heard there was mostly CGI in the action now and the advertisements have all been showing Fury Road clips instead of clips from Furiosa. Took it as a bad sign.
The CGI effects look like trash to me. Pass.
Same. That immediately turned me off. Too much trash CGI is hurting what could be good movies.
Fury Road also used a lot of CGI. To be honest, the trailers are not from the finished film. In the final cut, the CGI was barely noticeable.
it deserves to be seen on the big screen if you are into action revenge stories regardless but sadly too many would rather feed a negative narrative into a self fulfilling prophecy instead of just going to enjoy a good piece of mythos based cinema 🤷♀️
If this movie was about Max, and perhaps even Max in older age, I would have already seen this in the theater.
🫢 a movie bout a straight white male still searching for a redemption arc in dealing w the death of his family and the collapse of society while wanting to be left alone yet somehow under his rough solemn exterior still finds the humanity to help others in need - 😬 👉 in this day and age unacceptable
I watched the Movie- did not understand the plot, the story, the fighting and I needed a translator to help me understand Australian Dialect. You cannot just recreate a desert road with intricate fighting like the last movie, and expect it to succeed. WE NEED MEL GIBSON< STAT!!!!
It's hard to match Mel Gibson's special Aussie version of crazy. I wasn't that big of a fan of Fury Road as my mind already has a dog, a feral kid and a sky captain as his idea mates.
In Furiosa, Praeterian Jack is like Mel Gibson's Mad Max. There are dogs. A gang of sky captains. And Furiosa is pretty much the feral kid with the boomerang. The plot is like Road Warrior.
@@Poisonedbladethere’s no mad max though.
Bro no one wants to see someone else acting like the character they like, they want to see the character they like.
If I go to a Batman movie I want to see Batman. I don’t want to see Azrael or whoever acting like Batman.
@@Poisonedblade But Praetorian Jack is the bad guy. We want a Mad Max movie where the titular mad guy is the good guy.
As I understand it, Fury Road underperformed as well. Fury Road is a great movie, but it had marketing issues. This movie is an OK movie, but it didn't have Max, it didn't have Charlize Theron, it had Hemsworth in a stupid nose, and it has Taylor-Joy as an unconvincing Tough Chick. ( and I agree that there wasn't a moment where this 115 pound girl goes toe to toe with a 250 muscle dude. But it doesn't count for the first weekend. She's unconvincing on the poster.) I have to side with the Cinema Going Experience dying. I went on Sunday. There were seven other people in the theater. Every one of them was over 30. Kids just ain't goin' to the movies anymore.
I liked the action, I thought it was really good. I saw it on Discount Tuesday at 9pm for $7. There was literally 1 other guy in a 700 seat theater. 2 of us total. In the first week. I've never seen anything like it, even for a weak movie on week 7.
So, okay, it doesnt have a 120 pound girl beating up dudes twice her size. So, it has a 120 pound girl getting beat up by dudes twice her size. Still not fun for me to watch. I want to watch a tough dude beating up other dudes (who may be a little bit bigger than him)
The whole female led action movie thing just doesnt work if Hollywood insists on putting out 5 of them every year. Its fun in rare cases. When I saw this movie came out, I watched Colombiana again, and that is a pretty fun female led revenge flick with only one fist fight scene at the end. Not coincidentally, Luc Besson was involved in it. One of the few directors who can do this subgenre of film right.
I just dont see a market for the amount of female centered action movies they insist on making. Do one every couple years and actually get a good script.
The Long Kiss Goodnight is another great example.
@@TheSuperappelflap I don't disagree that the BadAss Woman thing isn't paying out. With the exception of Captain Marvel ( and that has a dozen caveats) The audience they're shooting for just isn't showing up. They're hoping to drive in the hidden "Women Who Want To See Tough Chick Warrior Women" crowd. And it doesn't seem that demographic exists in great numbers. I think men will go... I know plenty of dudes beside myself who love Atomic Blonde, Aliens, Kill Bill, Wonder Woman( the first) and Long Kiss Goodnight, (plus Black Widow, the character)...But the majority of women DON'T dig it. But I think the movies mentioned have the element where the abilities are earned. Only ONE of the above was an un-caveated success. And she was an Immortal Goddess. The Movie Machinery hasn't found the formula.....yet.
@@guyjperson the difference is, if you make a good action/thriller movie with a female lead, it can work. Where they mostly get through with espionage, stealth, and outsmarting people. Not if it's a dumb action movie. Atomic Blonde fell in that category for me as well. I really didn't like it. Charlize Theron is good-looking, or was, but she isn't an action movie lead. Every time now that Hollywood puts out a movie like that it just reeks of the "girls can do everything boys do" modern messaging crap.
Aliens had some female marines but iirc they weren't fighting roided up 250 pound men in that movie, they just shot machine guns at aliens. And they weren't the sole lead character of the movie.
@@guyjperson Look at, idk, Salt, with Angelina Jolie. Not a great film but not terrible either. She doesn't just get in fist fights, she mostly just lies and manipulates people until the end of the film where she fights Liev Schreiber.
I went to the theater earlier tonight. Saw posters for Garfielosa (an attempt to re-create Barbenheimer) on my way to watch a re-release of the original 1994 The Crow. Yes, I paid to see a 30 year old movie in a theater. Was well worth it. Until Hollywood remembers why it's there, and who it's making movies for, I guess I'm just not interested in anything new. I'll go see Deadpool+Wolverine, but I don't even think Marvel Jesus will be able to save the year.
Because people won't pay the movie tickets when they can see the movie for a fraction in a couple of weeks at home.
Fury road: Who killed the world?!
Furiosa: Who killed hollywood?
I like how Immortan Joe and Chris Hemsworth's character had a war that we the audience didn't get to see any of. It just gets skipped over towards the end of the movie. It had a great middle with lots of action but a really slow beginning and really boring end of the movie.
#1 I won't forgive George Miller for not appraoching Gibson about Mad Max 4. Controvrersial or not. #2 I won't forgive Mad Max 4 for having almost nothing to do with Max in it. #3 The second I heard there'd be a spinoff about Furiosa, I 100% knew it woudn't get my money or time. I only watch the Mad Max films for Max. Otherwise I'm keeping my money in my wallet.
Dude finally. Yes the stunts were great but Max was just a sidekick. He was irrelevant to the plot since it was Furiosa who was pushing things along. By the way the suspicions were right that I had. They always told me that I was paranoid. But IGN confirmed it in the new interview:
This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
That's a quote from the article which goes into why we don't need Max anymore. It's just pathetic and I won't forgive Miller for that.
You'd rather have Mad Max dial of destiny with old mad max?
Dude. Gibson dropped out.
@@bigwig252 Did he? Source?
My understanding is that Miller really wanted Gibson back. Gibson said he felt he was too old
Mad *Max* movie, but there is no "Max" ... i mean... its like "superman" with out Kal-El...
It's a Spin off. Read the title. "FURIOSA". And the real title of Mad Max is "Heavy Metal".
@@Darkjack-FR the title also says "a Mad Max Saga" do you know what a "saga" is?
@@juanpraetoru3843 And? Furiosa is in this saga, right? Do you know you can have several characters in a saga?
@@Darkjack-FR No, you obviously do not know what it is.
I've never understood this desire for prequels. If the original did its job, we know the characters basic back story, so why does it need further detailing, who asks for it?
I wonder how much unintended damage the marketing did. Most people probably never even thought of Furiosa within the last like 6 years yet here she is all of a sudden, sporting the subtitle of 'A Mad Max Saga' without any Max. No wonder most people likely thought this would be just another current year Girl Boss sludge, and hey it has Chris Hemsworth, a man who is no stranger to selling himself for a portrayal as a complete buffoon that only looks good.
I am super glad none of those expectations came true but how many people will hear about that and then care enough to support the Movie?
Furiosa had her time in Fury Road. What make Furiosa so special we need a prequel just for her? we didn't even get one for Max.
No fan of Mad Max want Hardy or Furiosa, we want Mel.
There will never be another Mad Mel movie. He's too old, and done. And I think this franchise is done.
Max has four movies.
@@guyjperson I think he could go for a last one as old Max. The guy kept himself in shape. Watch him in Dragged across concrete. The guy is still really fit. He could do it but Miller probably won't. It's better to let it rest. Better to enjoy a good thing than to destry its legacy.
IGN just confirmed my suspicion:
This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
So they did plan on replacing him with Furiosa. I knew it.
Max has an origin movie honestly. It’s called Mad Max from 1979. The problem is Max is the face of the franchise, passive protagonist or not. No reason to call this film a mad max saga. Thought it was good but they made a mistake thinking Furiosa had a following on her own as a character. Honestly Max and Furiosa complimented each other as dual protagonists and that’s where the intrigue was
If you take me as a sample of one, here is why I didn't watch:
1) "I didn't ask for this movie"
2) Tired of sequels/prequels
3) Tired of Girl Boss movies (even when not Mary Sues)
This coming from someone who paid for cinema ticket to see The Menu and absolutely loved it. Anya is a great actor but I just want to see more original scripts/movies.
The fact that Furiosa isn't a girlboss movie doesn't mean its opening revenues can't have been hurt by people being tired of girlboss movies. It's not difficult to imagine people assuming it was one based solely on how many have been pumped out over the past several years. Remember, JSG, situations perceived as real are real in their consequences.
Yeah, the trailer looks like a girl boss movie, but the actual movie is her getting beaten up by every dude because she's a 120lb woman. She's just a sniper who works for Praetorian Jack. He's similar to Mel from Road Warrior.
@@Poisonedblade I still dont want to watch a movie about a girl getting beat up. I want to watch a movie about Mad Max beating up dudes and blowing stuff up and saving the girl(s). Its not rocket science.
@@TheSuperappelflap Furiosa is a revenge story. Same as the first movie. Idk how it doesn't make you excited to see new/different stuff
@@mjhernandez984 because the new stuff is worse than what was made decades ago. More CGI and bigger budgets doesn't make up for lack of soul. It's just corporate overproduced crap.
@@TheSuperappelflap If you are saying that the old movies look better than Fury Road and Furiosa, you're blinded by nostalgia
Everyone: We'd love to see another Max Max movie with Mel Gibson
George Miller: Here's a Max Max movie without Mad Max
Eh, it's another girl boss movie. Even if it's not, that's how it comes off. Of course everyone is gonna want to give it a skip.
The biggest complaint about Fury Road was: there was not enough Mad Max on it. When the actress that played Furiosa said she should get a movie, the thought was: sorry, you already fooled us with the bait and switch once, now you are saying there won't be a Mad Max on it, so it's a hard no.
If Mad Max is a bad IP, 40 years+ with no fans, why was it called: Furiosa "A Mad Max Saga"? They were trying to bait Mad Max fans and action hero movies fans. The first Mad was a flop and the sequels were not that great, but they had 20 years+ to create a cult following, I would watch another Mad Max film with Mad Max, just for the action and entertainment it would have. I was disappointed by Fury Road, they could have made it without Mad Max, and it would be the same movie, but there wouldn't be any attention to it before releasing, no expectations created by the IP, and now fans to talk about it and hype it up.
Two words for you: too much. When you saturate a market with too much product, inevitably the majority of consumers become more choosy with the glut of options available. They buy what and how they choose, not what and how the vendors dictate. If pricing in competitive, mediocre to low-quality offerings get ignored. As do products for which the consumer has seen no marketing.
It took a decade for Hollywood to completely alienate me. It will take at least as long to get me back.
I hated Fury Road so I didn't go. IMO there are only 3 Mad Max films.
It just looks like a poop on a plate, and a sign saying “eat up”.
1. waited 10 years to release a Mad Max movie without Mad Max.
2. when the fans (Customers) question things they get called names and slurred.
3. the pandemic taught the normies to stay home and urged to consume streaming.
4. Most recent movies are written and acted by sub-par talent.
5. being in a cinema with lots of people, may not be safe.
5a. in the cinema some crazy person may act up and stage a crime.
6. the Economy! what's the current price for a family of four to see a movie at the cinema?
6a. struggling under inflation, buy groceries or go to the cinema for a movie?
7. I can list more reasons to boycott.
I just wanted so see more Max, honestly. Furiosa was fine as a character in Fury Road, liked her there, but...
There's a Furiosa movie? Hmm. Did not know that.
I literally didn't even know this movie had come out until I started seeing the videos talking about how it bombed. So I am going to take a swing and guess that a good portion of it was the fact they apparently didn't do any advertising for it.
It was a Mad Max Story without Mad Max and turned one of the most beautiful women in the world into a buzz cut girl boss. No idea why it bombed.
Go get your eyes checked, Anna Taylor-Joy is no beauty whatsoever.
Lol at her being one of the most beautiful
Where's my comment saying the same thing as cotton?
She looks like someone left the clothes iron on her face for too long. There are 5 blonde waitresses on my town square that are better looking. Shes just being pushed as the next thing, her only features are being blonde and white and not overweight.
There's a clear rhyme and reason to it all. People want genuinely well written works with interesting plots and characters people care abou. Furiosa had most of that, but was a prequel which released too late and lacked Mad Max. The plot was less interesting because we know what happens next. Mad Max is the character people care the most about in the Mad Max saga. There's also the problem with general audience fatigue as there's been too many bad movies and the cost to see them is high.
Why?
Because It didn’t have Max
No max
No watch
lol Max has never been a main character in his own movie since the second film.
CGI is far more to blame for this, IMO.
"Mad Max" - "Max" = "Mad". Simple math.
The thing is this prequel was supposed to come out not long after Fury Road but WB screwed over Miller when it came to his pay check and supposed bonus. Back then I’d have loved to go see it as Fury Road is still my favourite Mad Max film but now I’m just not that bothered.
[Trust is gone in blockbusters being simply good! VVokeness infestation leaves only flopbusters in it's wake! This is merely collateral damage!😑☕]
There is also the argument that the story of Furiosa was already told in Fury Road and also there is the fact that Fury Road isn't about Mad Max but about Furiosa and her obstacles and Max simply is there to help, which is a fact, it wasn't his journey but Furiosa.
Ignorance. Ignorance kill it.
People saw the posters and thought its like captain marvel
Yup, but it's not. It's like the opposite of Craptain Marvel.
Let’s completely ignore the slop Hollywood pushed for the last decade because it definitely didn’t warp the populace’s perception of female led action films.
Hollywood is to blame, plain and simple.
I don’t know, I didn’t watch Cpt Marvel, but this one was pretty enjoyable.
@@atomaraffe Yeah, it's like Road Warrior.
Another guess I have is that Garfield is more of a family movie than Furiosa. So families will easily pick an funny animated cat movie on a holiday over something like Mad Max.
I think you're highly underestimating the Mad Max influence. It went on to inspire Fist of the North Star, which then went on to inspire JoJo as well as Berserk. Madmax in a bubble may not be that well known, but just like for instance Metroid it's influence far exceeds it's own individual sales and people get to learn what inspired the works they do enjoy. I can't prove it, but I'm sure half of the people who went to see Fury Road were Max fans and seeing him demoted to a sidekick role didn't sit well with them. Then the follow up movie, which came way to late didn't even bother to include him. It was a recipe for disaster.
I didnt even watch Fury Road because it was clear from the marketing it was going to be Furiosa Road. Charlize Theron is/was a very goodlooking woman but I saw her do action in films like Atomic Blonde and it was not good. I dont want to see her, I want to see Mad Max. I heard positive things about the film but I still havent watched it, not even for free, and Im not going to.
Hollywood should stop resurrecting finished trilogies from decades ago anyway.
Theyre now going to make another LOTR movie, like can you just stop? There are plenty of good books out there that have fanbases of millions that havent been adapted well, or existing bad adaptations that do deserve a remake. Theres no need to try to remake something thats already good or make sequels and prequels to stories that are finished.
@@TheSuperappelflapso... You didn't go to see a 2015 Mad Max movie because you didn't like the action in a movie from 2017?
@@Goodbutevilgenius No I didn't go see it because I don't want to support Hollywood milking trilogies that finished decades ago and then that other bad movie reinforced that I don't want to see Charlize Theron in action movies anyway.
Like with any industry, Hollywood is trying to sell a product. The market is saying that product isn’t worth the cost in time and money. Based on Barbie and Oppenheimer vs Furiosa and marvel, id say people want original content or stories that aren’t just an addition to an established franchise. Franchises can be a barrier as much as a magnet
3:38 That's me tbh. I hate prequel, and if I'm going to see a Mad Max movie, it should be starring Mad Max. It may not be the traditional "girl boss" movie, but it's still a woman taking over the starring role, from a man, in an action film, yet again. I just think people are tired of that trope at this point tbh. This series is about Max, and quite frankly the 4th film was already pushing it, in that regard. Pretty sure the bulk of this film's box office came from men, yet again, as well.
Yeah Fury road had nice stunts but that was it. Of course she had to be able to easily disarm Max etc. Not really a girl boss but as you said close to it. That and Max was practically irrelevant to the plot until mid-film. It was Furiosa who took the wives of Immortan Joe and the whole movie was about her. I have bad news for you. Read the new IGN article. It is confirmed. They want to replace Max. That is what I said all along when I first saw Furiosa as a character:
This reaches its extreme in Fury Road, and now of course, Furiosa, where he’s seemingly been replaced entirely by the Taylor-Joy character.
Even if the movie isnt about a 120 pound girl beating up guys twice her size, that means its a movie about a 120 pound girl getting beat up by guys twice her size.
It still doesnt appeal to me. Im not into snuff films. I want a movie about a 200 pound guy beating up dudes that are about his size or maybe a little bit bigger, you know to make them intimidating but not too much bigger it becomes unrealistic.
It's not actually that surprising and you do still see a logical throughline though. For example: Why did Barbie do well? Why did the Puss in Boots Movie do well?
Both of them catered to a specific audience and served what they advertised. I didn't like Barbie, but it was a movie made for woman and actually aimed at woman in a way, so people went and it looked like a diamond next to all the burned out charcoal. Puss in Boots was simply a good movie, which might not have done so well in an era with less bile on the big screen.
Furiosa? Well, it might actually be a good movie, but it's about a character nobody really cared about, as a sequel to a movie that didn't even do so drastically well to be honest, with the vibe of a stereotypical girl boss movie. So, yeah, it wasn't one, but people didn't believe it anymore. And ALL the other things you mentioned just piled onto that, so here we are. It's not surprising, or is it really?
Even if it's not a girl-boss movie, and is actually good, it LOOKS like a girl-boss movie from the marketing, and that is a giant red flag. The anti-woke pendulum is swinging the other way and even Aliens might bomb today, even if it's not woke.
So if it's not a girlboss movie and it advertises itself as a mad max movie with no max... it's just another franchise cashgrab? I guess I don't see the appeal in even looking into it.
It's not actually a good movie...unless your bar is set that low. It's OK.
@@mc1993 My bar is incredibly low if the price is free. If I'm paying for it... I sort of expect something more than "Well, that was a thing I watched."
It's not a girl boss movie. It's really similar to Road Warrior with Mel Gibson. Furiosa is like that feral kid with the boomerang. The plot is Dr. Dementus vs Immortan Joe for Gas Town and Bullet Farm. It's a fun, big screen, action movie. 8.5/10.
The only other movie I watched in theaters this year was Dune 2. 9/10.
I'm looking forward to Wolverine and Deadpool.
@@Poisonedblade >It's not a girl boss movie.
I don't think it matters. If it looks like one from the outside, it's screwed.
3:46 how does Mad Max not being in a Mad Max movie and me not wanting to watch it mean I am well versed in Mad Max lore? I've never seen a Mad Max movie and avoided watching Furiosa (which I thought looked really cool and it did good work towards convincing me to actually watch a Mad Max movie) because I wanted to watch a movie with the titular "Mad Max" first since it seems like the natural starting place.
Well furiosa was a stream movie. Not a theatrical release worthy.
Reality: most people have never cared about or understood the appeal of Mad Max.
$160M+ for a movie?!
Execs, shareholders and few other people (in positions they should not be in), who made entertainment/escapisms worst, don't go cheap.
The Garfield Movie easily sold way more tickets than Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga which crashed!
Top Gun came out 30 years ago and made 1.5 billion, it's no excuse, the girl boss movies simply alienate the public
You realize this is a based movie where a 120lb woman gets her ass kicked by everyone because she is a 120 lb woman, right? She's pretty much just a sniper working for Praetorian Jack who drives the war rig in the war for Gas Town and Bullet Farm.
@@Poisonedblade Why would I want to watch a movie about a little girl getting destroyed? There is a genre for that. Its called snuff films.
Top Gun Maverick has Tom Cruise, literally the last marketable action movie star, and its about the US military, of course that makes money. Americans will always pay to convince themselves they are the good guys.
Furiosa bombed because it was a Furiosa movie, not a Mad Max movie. They tried to get people with the title but barely anyone fell for it.
On top of it, the intrigue of Furiosa's back story was more interesting than actually seeing it.
On top of that, it is "just" another big blockbuster movie with lots of action and some comedy with a tragic hero. People are tired of that.
My guess is that smaller and experimental movies will be more popular. That or someone finds another fad like comic based movies.
It's a Mad Max movie without Mad Max. Sounds as stupid as a Batman movie without Batman or a 007 without Bond.
I think is a combo of a few issues. You are correct, it came out too late. But other factors, movies have to be exceptional to entice us to not to wait until streaming, economy is also a factor, poor marketing
The movie was just OK. People want Mad Max, not this. Furiosa, and her mom, was a MarySue, and the script was dumb, and men were incompetent. Important actions in one scene forgotten by the next. Rotten Tomatoes scores are paid for with the hundreds of early 5 star reviews by new accounts that have only 1 film reviewed. Anya was miscast, she should never have taken the role.
I actually enjoyed Furiosa. It’s in my top five favorite movies of 2024 thus far as a HUGE movie lover/fanatic and aspiring actress. ❤❤❤❤
To many factors here but the biggest factor is that this movies should get release 2/3 years after Mad Max Fury roads rather than now.
But a Gibson - Max movie would still pack theaters, even if only for the memberberries.
1) Female protagonist in a male genre
2) Prequel
Where's Max? Oh, he ain't in this one. Guess I'll pass.
One of the best channels on TH-cam. Keep it up, good sir.
because Tina already said "We Don't Need Another Hero." Marvel ended with EndGame and Mad Max ended with Thunderdome.
You can't have a Mad Max film without Mad Max.
They didn't start advertising enough, early enough, and PEOPLE ARE BROKE
Personally, I didn't go see it because it didn't have Mad Max in it. It really seems like they were trying to do an Indiana Jones and replace the Mad Max character with a Girl Boss/Mary Sue (like they attempted to do with Pheobe Waller Bridge in the original script of Indiana 5).
Mad Max without Max is just mad.
For me it was that there was no Max in Mad Max and who asked for that prequel story?
My Batman movie doesn't have batman, why did it bomb?
Society is changing. Back in the 20th century, films were still events that people WENT to. As we moved into the 21st century, though, digital and streaming services slowly gained ascendancy. Going to the theater involved spending exorbitant amounts of money on concessions if kids were involved, as well as having to schedule time to go. Today, people can watch from their own homes, whenever THEY choose, and eat or drink whatever they wish. And they can do it repeatedly.
I believe we are seeing the slow death of the movie theater industry, just as we began seeing the death of malls once online ordering became the norm. It now takes a REALLY special and well-marketed production to draw conventional theater audiences.
Dune 2 was packed when I went to go see it, and I saw across the spiderverse last year and it was full of people.
@@Vespyr_ Yes, the Dune films were heavily marketed for a long time before their release.
Mad max without mad max why though
I actually liked Furiosa. The actress in the last recent movies i've seen her in which she did action roles she really commits to them. I've gain respect for her acting as a result.
Once again in this she plays the character well, she has the right emotions, and delivers her role at the right times. I even felt the actress who played her younger self did well. That said though it's not something i'd call amazing, but it's a nice action flick to kick back to.
No it would not have done better. Max was written on the package but everybody knew that no Max was in it. It would not have fared better or only marginally better. Why watch a movie that does not contain the main draw and is just a facsimile or the former movie?
The clue is in the title Mad Max
And if he ain't in it then no go for me
It's that simple
Why did it bomb?!
I don't know, maybe because us viewers are sic and tired of Mary Sue girl bosses, CGI and the mesaage?!
And what does that has to do with this movie?
It's not that Furiosa is a 'girl boss' movie (it isn't), it's that it's being perceived as one because of the way it's being marketed. If the audience have to actually see the movie or hear word of mouth reviews telling them it's not going to be what they think it is, then the marketing and PR has failed. Also, this movie was always going to be a hard sell to a general audience without Mad Max in it. Halloween 3 is a really good movie as well but back when it released, it bombed and was soundly rejected by the audience due to not having Micheal Myers (asides from a brief moment where a clip of the original Halloween movie is show on a TV screen).
One single reason. No one cares or cared about her....we watched Mad Max Fury Road for, get this, Mad Max. And it was good and tolerable in contrasts to the original.
This is your typical girl boss piggy back on a man made franchise...Yawn, hard pass.
I didn't even know about this movie