Once I got saved, even the next day, things I didn't even know were sin, grieved me & convicted me, like smoking pot, I thought would be "ok" but not even thinking it was sin, it wasn't the same, I didn't cry over polluting the air going over pot smoking friends house to share Jesus, Found out later when I received Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes into your being & teaches you, grieves when you sin & convicts you, I didn't read that 1st, so something happened, yeah, I was born again though I had doubts the day before when I received Jesus, continuing in sin is difficult to do, against my new nature in Christ.
Well said. We all have certain sins that we struggle with individually, and they may be various things for different people. God knows this, and works to clean us up over time. It's a process we all go through.
Viking Knight don't listen to this ignorant preacher in this video. You can't quench the Holy Spirit that's not found in the Bible. The reason Jesus died for your sins is because he knew you would have the problems you just described. He died for all sins all time do that those who were born in to sin like us can have our sin debt paid for and our souls made righteous before God. When you receive Christ your made righteous and receive the Holy Spirit as a witness to convict you that you are righteous because God knows you can't keep the law of the old testament Jesus kept that law and through him you are credited as being righteous although you yourself have not kept the law. That's the definition of Grace. That's why righteousness is described as a gift and not a reward. Salvation is also described as a gift. That is why Jesus was able to die on the cross even though he never sinned (wages of sin is death) you will inherit the kingdom of God and enter into heaven (only the righteous can enter heaven) even though you your self are not righteous (because you were descended from Adam ie born into sin) Jesus taking your sin allows you to enter. Have you accepted Christ as your savior? If the answer is yes then you are already forgiven for your sins. Nothing you did in your sin both willfully or unwillfully has taken God by surprise buddy. He saw your life 2018 years ago and went to the cross for YOU! READ 1John 2:12. ROMANS 5:12-21 Psalms 139:16
Ephesians 4:30, ONCE YOU RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU ARE SEALED UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION! It’s the most Biblical thing to have assurance of salvation. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ ❤️
I SMOKED CRACK 10 YEARS,AN BACK SLID, AN WAS SHOT ,RAN OVER BY A CAR, IN A COMA , AN GOD HAD HIS HAND ON MY LIFE , AN NOW I'M SAVED AN LIVING THE WORD , WE HAVE TO LIVE THE WHOLE WORD
But when you back slid you weren't living for God. See you just admitted it. Backslidden is just another word for apostate. That's why you take it to God to fix your problems.
JACQUES HUISWOOD. people take things out of context. Ifthey take Gods word out of context, they also will take ours out to.When God is speaking about back slidden, he is speaking of the BACK SLIDDEN IN HEART( the UNBELIEVER. Keep your eyes on Jesus.I would like to share some more with you. Out here on YT., it's the TWIGHLITE ZONE
Because I turned my back on God waaay back and demons began to take over my mind ! I got so terrified I ran back to God and he delivered me!!!! My whole body shook as the demons had to let Go!!! Jesus spoke to me too! In front of the whole church !! He took me back and ill never ever leave Jesus!!! Love you Lord !! That was many years ago but it was like yesterday to me!! I am so grateful to you Lord Jesus!!
@@estebanblanco2001 it's not bibical it's called the Hyper Grace movement. I know many people who say they are saved. Accepted Christ tasted the fruits of the gospel. Yet live in on going horrible sin. Jesus will tell them I never knew you.
@@emilywalton4105 No. Once saved always saved is biblical. If you could stop being saved by sinning, then no one would stay saved for even a day. That's not how it is. You get saved by trusting only on the works of The Lord Jesus, and on no one else's works,(including your own). And that salvation is eternal.
@@estebanblanco2001 if you are truly saved and leave Jesus he will leave the other 99 and go after the one that is lost. However, if you live in rebellion and sin even though at one point you came to the Lord then your repentance was not sincere and if you continue to disobey the Holy Spirit you will die in your sins. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
I was at your event five years ago in Anaheim, the So Cal Festival on August 17. I proclaimed Jesus as my Lord and Savior there. It changed my life at that point in time. Thank you.
'While I was with them in the world I kept them in your name ... of those you gave me, none of them is lost except the son of perdition'. There is nothing you can do to save yourself or to stay saved. He is the one holding on to you, not you to Him.
Some love Jesus and are disgusted by sin or the very thought of sin....for a few weeks or months....then temptations come back and soon sin doesn't seem all that disgusting after alll.... Many begin the journey but do not finish it. That is what the parable of the seed on bad ground is all about (Matthew 13:3-23). That's why once-saved-always-saved is bad doctrine.
This is true if we do not continue to sin and harden out hearts against the Holy Spirit. 7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, 8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. 10 Therefore I was angry with that generation, And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, And they have not known My ways.’ 11 So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ” 12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF in DEPARTING FROM the living GOD; (Hebrews 3:7-12)
Sorry to tell you the truth, you will be upset. Jesus is not yet Lord. None are yet saved. Jesus SHALL be Lord You must endure, and you shall be saved. Matthew 24:13
@@julesservantofjesus972 So you are an immortal spirit? The word, "shall", means shall, as sometime in the future. So forgive me that thou be wrongeth. For in that day thou shalt need to confess again.
You are one of the best online pastors I have listened to! I made my decision a year ago at a camp. I had so much enthusiasm to spread the Word, that I got and stage and gave a speech. And I'm an introvert. When I got home, I felt lost since the "Holy Spirit" effect wore off. However, I got back from this and am in a better place than before. I am no longer suicidal, for I know I would go to Hell. 3 months later however, my youth pastor was fired or laid off, I do not know. I felt so betrayed. However, I found it was God's plan to move him to a different church. I do feel guilty and disappointed when I do sin. I know God is real and that Christ is my savior, and I hope he uses me to spread his word even though I am a introvert with close to no friends. In conclusion, praise God. Also, I plan on being baptized soon. I think this is the right move!
CometReindeer I’m so glad that you made that decision!! I too have gone to camp and felt that “camp high” where you feel so on fire for the Holy Spirit and then after it wears off. But the Holy Spirit does not just work at camp! Hahah! We have to take the time to dive into God’s presence frequently and it will help us feel driven and remain on fire for God!
When a person honors the Lord and the Lord's word its a good beginning, only the Lord can see into a man, women's, and child's heart. Being a christian is a constant work in progress. If one is not changing in the Lord, one is not maturing in the Lord.
Hi Mary, Salvation is no work of ours at all. Jesus did all the work for us, and when we trust in Him, we perfectly fulfill all the requirements God has for us. When they asked Jesus what they needed to do to be saved, He said: Believe, and live the rest of your life for me. None of your good works save you, and they do not give you a better standing with God or cause Him to love you any more than He has loved you, even before He created all that exists. Enjoy your new life in Jesus, you are free now to live a righteous life and find peace in what Jesus has done for you. Tell everyone what Jesus has done for you!
@@robertcliftonrobinson4183 Why do I find something artificial about your comment. Yes, Jesus paid the price for me but obviously faith does not end there. It says in 1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin" Praise God for sending Jesus but we must walk in the Light as He is in the Light else we will be in darkness and the Blood of His will not have effect upon us. Walking with God is part of Salvation. There is no Salvation if you are living an unrighteous life. That person has lost his or her salvation and needs to confess their sins to God and return to Him (unless of course you believe we don't have free will and God will do everything for us, to which, if that is your case, i say to you that is anti biblical. Jesus even warn He would remove anyone's name from the Book of Life if they take away from the words of the prophecy of Revelation)
@@joeydaniel3053 what you assert is salvation by works, not faith. There is nothing that must be added to Jesus' death for our sins. The text you cited in 1 John is describing fellowship with God that is interrupted by unconfessed sin, not the loss of salvation when we sin. At the moment anyone sincerely turns from their sins and determines to trust in Jesus for their salvation, all of their sins; past, present, and future, are forgiven. This is why we are securely saved, forever. "Walking in the light," in Koine-Greek, is descriptive of perpetual fellowship with Christ. When we sin after our salvation, a break in our fellowship with God occurs, but not our salvation. If what you assert was true, no one would ever make it to heaven. Thankfully our salvation does not depend on our ability or righteousness, but on Jesus perfect sacrifice for ALL our sins, making us perfect before God, fully ready for heaven. Rejoice in what Jesus has done; rest in your salvation: "it is finished!"
This is the true gospel. It’s hard to merit but it's the truth. Jesus never said it was too easy to enter life. It’s only human doctrine that turn things to seem so easy as they want them to be. Jesus taught narrow gate, plucking eyes, cutting off sinning hands, unworthy believers, hypocrites etc. So it’s now our choice. Shaka from Uganda
The Bible teaches us to put on the helmet of salvation because satan will try and make you doubt if you are really saved. This deception of satan is meant to make us live in fear, guilt and doubt in the victory we have in the sacrifice of Jesus' death and resurrection. If you could lose your salvation then you would have to earn it back but we are not free of sin based on good deeds but SOLELY on the belief in a person's heart on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the payment of sin. It's His grace that saves and not by any works we do.
I don’t go to Church anymore ,but I still believe in Jesus! Faith and religion are totally different things! You cannot work your way to Heaven! Only by faith in Jesus Christ.
Yes moonbase , maybe the physical Church is not the most essential thing for a christian to go to but , the church as in the body of christ , or in otherwords Fellowship as a Christian is so important.
Such clever works based salvation teaching-backloading it into the gospel. Now he is explaining what a believer should be doing to prove-or JUSTIFY their salvation other than faith alone in the finished work. There will be seasons in your life of behavior. The proof of salvation is exactly what the works says-believe on the Lord Jesus
Once TRULY saved, always saved. However, we don't look to our feelings or endeavours as our ground of assurance but Christ's perfect work on our behalf and the sure promise of His Word. Anything else is sinking sand.
@@thevoiceofonecallingout Don't get what you mean? What did I say that was illogical' We are saved by trusting in Christ's work for us and assured by His Word to us. Standing on the promises of God by faith alone, His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are His and His forever. It is this that spurs us on to serve Him out of gratitude, the fruit and not the root of our eternal salvation. To deny the eternal security of the believer, a term I prefer to OSAS, turns salvation into probation.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 God''s promises are received by a true faith, not simple belief. The problem is most don't understand true faith. The Israelites leaving Egypt found that out the hard way. While i agree your scriptural claim that the Holy Spirit leads us to serve Him and others, we retain the free will God granted us, otherwise there would be no need for the many, many warnings in scripture. If we believe we can use the free will God grants us to intentionally grieve and quench the Holy Spirit yet still believe we will receive the promises of God, we are mistaken. Again, we receive the promises of God through a true faith.
@@thevoiceofonecallingout True faith is relying on what God has promised in His Word, He is able to perform and will perform personally for you. This applies to salvation and simple belief on what Christ has done on your behalf as opposed to anything you can do is indeed true saving faith that accounts the sinner righteous before the Father. Yes, there are warnings as to how we walk after receiving Christ as Saviour but they pertain to loss of enjoyment and being all that God intends us to be in this life, not to mention loss of rewards at the Bema seat. There will be those whose works when tried will be as wood, hay and stubble but will still be 'saved, yet as by fire'. The true child of God may also be severely chastened for persistent, wilful and serious sin and maybe 'handed over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh'.If this doesn't bring restoration, they may then be taken in 'the sleep unto death'. Sin comes with a price for the saved believer but not loss of salvation.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 I see so what you believe the bible teaches is that the more a believer sins, the quicker God will bring them into His presence? Also Paul says in 1 Cor 5 that he was turned over that the spirit MAY be saved on the day of the Lord. This verb sozo (saved) in Greek is in the subjunctive mood meaning the possibility of being saved but not definitive. We know this man was a Christian because Paul is judging the man committing the incest and Paul tells us right after we don't judge those outside the church. The Bible tells us the Israelites did not enter into the Promised Land because of their lack of faith to obey. They were first hand witnesses to His existence and His power yet refused to obey. They wanted to claim the promises of God but on their terms which does not work. True faith always manifests itself (exception: true deathbed conversions and the like). Finally i don't think the passage you cite in 1 Cor 3 in context means what you think it does. It is referencing the building of the church on the foundation of Christ. It does not apply to works, but a man's work in building the church through the making of disciples on the foundation of Christ.
Allie Stokes I think he meant in general ! Also then you seek the scriptures even more in depth and compare scripture against the entirety of the Bible.
Allie Stokes sorry to hear that! Just remember the Bible doesn’t contradict itself. When it seems it does it’s in the translations, from what I have personally found in studying. God bless you
Salvation is a threefold progress ! 1) Justification (through JESUS, in the past !) 2) Sanctification (through the HOLY SPIRIT, in the present !) 3) Glorification (through the FATHER, in the future !)
Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) A Lie From The Pit of Hell We do not actually possess salvation until we die. Until then we have the HOPE of salvation. "For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" Hebrews 3:14 Jesus told the DISCIPLES in John 15 that if they did not abide (Continue) in Him, they would be CUT OFF and BURNED. A branch has to be first attached to a vine before it can WITHER ON the vine. HE said those that wither on the vine and stop producing fruit will be cut off. Paul told the Roman Christians that if they did NOT continue in the faith, God would cut them OFF just as He did to Israel. It is all a matter of OUR choice to remain steadfast, persevere, abide, and endure to the end of our life. "Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, * IF THOU CONTINUE * in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Romans 11:22 "And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: * IF YE CONTINUE IN THE FAITH grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel." Col 1:21-23 "But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, IF we HOLD FAST the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the END.” Heb 1:6 "For we are made partakers of Christ, IF we HOLD the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the END;" Heb 3:14.... "Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;" John 8:31 "And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and LOOKING BACK, is fit for the kingdom of God. Luke 9:62 "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." Heb 10:38-39 We ARE saved; we are BEING saved,; we WILL be saved. Belief in the Greek is in the Continuous PRESENT tense, which means we must KEEP believing. In the Western mind, it is a one time act which completes everything necessary for eternal life, but the Word does not support that. Scripture warns over and over that we must CONTINUE to believe, to abide, and to remain in Christ until we reach the end of our life. Our salvation will be completed at the resurrection. "And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed." Romans 13:11 CHRISTIANS (those truly "saved to begin with") CAN: 1. Depart from the faith (1 Tim. 4:1) 2. Wander away from the faith (1 Tim. 6:10) 3. Swerve from the faith (1 Tim. 6:21) 4. Abandon their faith (1 Tim. 5:12) 5. Make shipwreck of their faith (1 Tim. 1:19) 6. Fall from grace (Gal. 5:4) 7. Desert him who called you and turn to a different gospel (Gal. 1:6) 8. Receive the grace of God in vain (2 Cor. 6:1) 9. Swerve from the truth, upsetting the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18) 10. Drift away from the truth (Heb. 2:1) 11. Have an evil, unbelieving heart, leading us to fall away from the living God (Heb. 3:12) 12. Be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin (Heb. 3:12-14) 13. Fail to reach the promise of entering into His rest (Heb. 4:1) 14. Fall by disobedience to enter His rest (Heb. 4:11) 15. Fall away and impossible to restore unto repentance (Heb. 6:4-6) 16. Deliberately go on sinning and no longer have a sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26-27) 17. Shrink back (Heb. 10:38 18. Fail to obtain the grace of God (Heb. 12:15) 19. Wander from the truth (James 5:19-2 20. Forsake the right way (2 Peter 2:15) 21. Become entangled and overcome AFTER having escaped them (2 Peter 2:20-21) 22. Be carried away with the error of lawless people and lose our stability (2 peter 3:17) 23. Commit a sin leading to death (1 John 5:16) 24. Stop abiding in the teaching of Christ (2 John 1:9) Eze 18:24 … "But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die. God disagrees with OSAS…. Read Gal 5 and tell me if it matters WHAT YOU DO. Paul said it does. Also read 2 Peter 2:20-21. Let the Word of God guide you, not the opinions of people. I recommend that you get your Bible and look up all of these verses for yourself and see if GOD is requiring US to do anything. VERSES WHICH WARN AGAINST FALLING AWAY FROM THE FAITH REFUTING OSAS Matt 24:9-13 Mark 13:13 Luke 8:13 John 15:6 Acts 1:25 Revelation 2:4 Revelation 3:5 Revelation 22:19 Romans 11:21-22 Hebrews 3:12-14 Hebrews 4:12 Hebrews 8:4-6 Hebrews 10:38-39 Hebrews 12:14 Col 1:21-23 1 Corinthians 9:27 1 Corinthians 10:5-13 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 1 Timothy 5:13 2 Thessalonians 2:3 2 Peter 1:10 2 Peter 2:15 1 John 1:9 Luke 9:62
@@wizdomdiscernment2.0 Wow, Sandra, it's is RARE to come across Christians who possess the understanding that you do. But you are absolutely correct. There are actually TWO aspects to our conversion; the FIRST is, we are "Legally" saved--meaning, we have only just "entered" into God's plan--but we are not "Experientially" saved yet. WE are, in essence, in the PROCESS of being saved; we are not a "finished" product yet. Of course, the OSAS will argue, "are you KIDDING, we're NOT EVEN REALLY SAVED YET?" No, that's NOT what we're saying. Yes, you now have Jesus in your life, YES, you ARE on the RIGHT path, and YES, if you "continue" in His word (John 8:31) you WILL, in fact, inherit eternal life. And God DOES know your heart. I believe in MOST cases, those who had a serious conversion WILL in fact, see the glory of heaven. But just keep in mind, God provided numerous warnings about "falling away," and "back-sliding." If it weren't possible, He would not have said it. At any rate--remain "stedfast," nobody is anywhere NEAR the perfect little soldier; we ALL have battles to face, that's why we P R A Y!!!
He who He called He justified He who He justified He also glorified its happens at once but we dont see the results until death God sees the begining from the end anyone who dosent believe in eternal security is trying to add thier own effort to what Jesus did. Remember the Matthew verse did we not do this Lord did we not do that Lord ? In peoples case who dont believe Jesus finished it will be saying were we not obedient Lord did we not do this did we not do that and He will say depart from me workers of iniquity we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of PROMISE God does not go back on.a promise
Some people push a message of “you better watch out you could lose your salvation”. Let’s examine that. What would cause you to lose salvation? Sin would. So, if Jesus died for your sins, did it work? Of course it did! That answer alone should end the discussion. Jesus didn’t just die for small sins or ones we rarely commit. He died for the big ones and the ones we struggle with too. There’s not a single verse that actually ever mentions losing salvation. No. It’s just distorted theology. And you can bet it’s almost always from legalist angry Christians and talk more about fear of them they do the love of Christ. Now, let’s talk about the word “eternal”. God’s word tells us “whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall not perish, but will have eternal life”. Eternal means without an end. That word is extremely important when we’re thinking about losing salvation. In order to lose salvation it could not be eternal, otherwise it would in fact have an end At the very best it would be temporary or contingent salvation. Emerite come from we call that works based salvation. And let’s take that word eternal a little deeper. Eternal doesn’t just mean without an end. It also means without a beginning. But wait, you had a birthday so you must have a beginning. And that’s when we discover that eternal salvation is not your life prolonged. But rather it’s Jesus‘ life given to you. It’s his eternal life you receive. And now it makes sense! Anybody teaching a theology of losing salvation is teaching law based salvation. And it’s a lie from the evil one. On one side of their mouth they are saying we are saved by faith, on the other side of their mouth they are saying we maintain it by works. That’s double-talk. If salvation were maintained by works then it wouldn’t be a gift. It wouldn’t be by faith. And that kind of teaching is no different than all the fake religions of the world. Fake religions that require you to earn salvation through human effort. How to teach losing salvation is reject the grace of God. And if we could keep our salvation through human effort then why in the world did Jesus go to the cross? [Galatians 2:21] “ I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness cane through the law then Christ died needlessly”.
Timothy Wayne A. So, if Jesus died for your sins, did it work? Of course it did! That answer alone should end the discussion. Except for the fact that we must abide in the Vine in order to share his life. Eternal life is not something we can have APART FROM HIM. …3 You are already CLEAN because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 REMAIN IN ME, and I WILL REMAIN IN YOU. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who REMAINS IN ME, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing (John 15:3-5) Jesus describes his disciples as branches joined to him. As long as they REMAINED in a relationship of dependent faith in Him they would continue to receive His life and to bear fruit. However, the very fact He COMMANDS us to remain in Him tells us that we could CHOOSE to separate ourselves. The consequences for doing so are revealed in verse 5: 6 If anyone does NOT REMAIN IN ME, he is like a branch that is THROWN AWAY and WITHERS [dies]. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the FIRE and burned.… (John 15:6) A branch never develops the ability to generate its own life. All that comes from the vine, the leaves, the roots, and the sun. The branches are only conduits. If we do not keep the conditions of our covenant with God we can be cut off just as Israel was. B. God’s word tells us “whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall not perish, but will have eternal life”. 13 And in Him, having heard and believed the word of truth- the gospel of your salvation- you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the pledge of our inheritance UNTIL the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory.… (Ephesians 1:13) Right now we have the Holy Spirit of PROMISE who gives us a kind of life that is a foretaste of the fullness of eternal life in the world to come. There is a future tense eternal life that we do not yet experience and will not until the DAY OF REDEMPTION. This final outcome is described by Jesus: 46 And these [goats] will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into ETERNAL LIFE” (Matthew 25:46) Were the righteous admitted into eternal life because AT SOME POINT in their life they believed and confessed Christ? If OSAS were true this would be all that is necessary in order to be declared forever and unconditionally righteous. By contrast, Jesus says they entered because they led lives of faith love and obedience all of which was expressed by how they treated those who are loved by God. C. Now, let’s talk about the word “eternal”. You are assuming that we possess an immutable nature like God but we do not. You say you want to "go deeper" and go on to say "eternal (life) also means 'without beginning" Well it does when it speaks about GOD. We had a beginning. D. And let’s take that word eternal a little deeper. Eternal doesn’t just mean without an end. It also means without a beginning...In order to lose salvation, it could not be eternal, otherwise, it would, in fact, have an end Believers SHARE in His (eternal) life but since we are temporal creatures who are also moral agents we can BEGIN to share His life at one point and CEASE at another. Adam and Eve shared God's life but turned from Him through disobedience. Did the fact that God's life "did not have a beginning" prevent them from dying spiritually? No, because they were mutable moral creatures. This, however, did not in any way diminish the eternity of God's life. But let us look at NT scriptures: 12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an EVIL UNBELIEVING HEART leading you to FALL AWAY from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to SHARE in Christ IF indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end. 15 As it is said, “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” (Hebrews 3:12-15) To share in Christ, we have to continue in the faith until the end and not be led astray by an "evil unbelieving heart" Encouraging others to listen to and obey the Holy Spirit is not "law teaching." Comforting Christians who are continually living in sin is not an indicator of mercy and love.
@@JimiSurvivorWho is the vine Jesus is referring to Jim? Is he talking to his church, or Israel. who is the vine? Jesus , or God, & branches are who? Israel. Where in scriptures is the church of Christ ever referred to as a branch? If you look, only Israel is referred to as a tree.
@@Sonny-xx9us JESUS said HE was the Vine: 1 I am the TRUE vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard (John 15:1) Since he was talking to his disciples it follows that it applies to all generations who would come into a covenant relationship with Him. In the metaphor of the teaching, the Father is the Keeper of the Vinyard. He also called Himself the Way (to the Father) the Truth (about the Father) and the Life (of the Father) we can only enjoy fellowship with the Father through Jesus. This matter is not confusing if you simply believe what Jesus said. Where is the Church referred to as a branch? Right here and had Jesus taught this nowhere else it would be enough. Yes other metaphors were used for Israel but in the context of the NEW COVENANT both saved Israel and saved Gentiles are branches. Paul also used this imagery to teach about the connection between Jew and Gentile believers have with Christ: …21 For if God did not spare the natural BRANCHES (natural but unbelieving Israel) He WILL NOT SPARE YOU you either. 22 Take notice, therefore, of the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, if you continue in His kindness. Otherwise, YOU WILL BE CUT OFF. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.… (Romans 11:21-23) The agricultural metaphors Jesus used were meant to make things EASIER to understand. Instead of accepting His simple teaching about the New Covenant you are attempting to import other metaphors. I suspect you are doing this because you do not like the idea that branches connected to Christ can be cut off but this is taught in Romans 11 and in John 15
JimiSurvivor Greats points. I have a question tho. The Bible says that anyone who is born of God does not keep sinning. So if I’m continuing in sin, how can i say I’m saved?
I believe we can lose our salvation by losing our way, like going back to our old sinful habits and ignoring God, but that's kinda why repentance is a thing... just say you're sorry for your sins, beg for forgiveness and hallelujah, you're good again! Because God is forgiving and merciful, so praise the Lord! Amen.
Let me say THIS; as long as you "continue" in your faith, as long as you keep praying, keep fellow-shipping, keep reading your Bible, and just...basically stay "tuned in" to God's Spirit--His word, you'll be okay. But keep in ,mind, God, and His Christ NEVER said this would be a "cake-walk," in fact, scripture declares, "in this life, you will HAVE TRIBULATION." That's where the "rubber-meets-the-road." Scripture is ALSO quite clear--if you bother to read the NUMEROUS warnings Paul gives to the churches. He's talking to those who had "heard" the word, and the context is, they were/are accountable for what they were taught. I could bring a LARGE number of verses to bare, but suffice it to say, Paul tried to warn these churches about having "itching ears." So, what do you think that MEANS? It means that AFTER their conversion, they began to "listen" to teaching that went OUTSIDE of the Bible. If a Christian cannot "fall-away," then, why all he warnings, and why do we even SEE terms like, "falling away," "backsliding," (which means "Sliding BACK), "Apostasy," and "turning away?" I think it's quite obvious, a person CAN "slip away," and begin to distance themselves to a point where they never return. Can one who has "fallen" be "grafted BACK in," yes! The book of John tells us it CAN be done. In fact, the very CONTEXT of that verse PROVES a "believer" CAN fall away, because it tells of those who HAVE fallen, but, if they REPENT, like King David did, they can be Re-renewed! So, be sober-minded, and careful in your walk. The devil is as a "roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour." Who do you think he goes for the MOST--US!! Pray, and be blessed.
Revelation 3:16-18 King James Version (KJV) 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
@Don Lee yes I think that particular passage makes it very clear, we cannot live in a sinful life, example, b4 I gave my life to christ, I would premeditate my sin, I now know what's right and wrong , in the eyes of GOD
@Jerry Collins trash really??no part of GODS infallible word is trash, you will be held accountable for your words, how was jesus a gentile?? And how was jesus hated by GOD?? Do elaborate with specifics, how was he rejected by GOD? Btw the church, who are believers in christ aren't gentiles , they're grafted into iseral
@Jerry Collins lol the only thing clear is that your blasphemy GOD like a fool, please share the scripture that proves your pathetic ramblings, I will warn you again you will be held accountable for the words you speak you're blasphemy GOD
@Jerry Collins Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, 6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 1 Chro 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever 2 Chro 15:2 The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you. STOP FALSE TEACHers. HALF TRUTH IS A LIE.
I got baptized 10 years ago but I decided to walk away and was living an earthly life full of rebellion and disobedience and forgot about God. 2 years ago I decided to give my life to God again and now I am living a life for Christ and learning to apply what He teaches us to do in my life. We must repent of our sins and apply His word in our life’s. We can’t claim to be Christian but not repent of our sins .
He has taken the Calvinistic approach. Once saved always saved also must include once damned always damned. Free will beings ALWAYS have the choice to choose.
@Jerry Collins Free will is a choice not a doctrine... and please learn to correctly interpret scripture. Jesus was a Jew, not a gentile! Your 2 sentence paragraph lacks logic, order, truth, and is eissagetical at best.
This is not an argument. Logically I can think of many commodities we did not earn but which we can lose through contempt or abuse of the gift. Esau was given a birthright which he did nothing to earn but as a "profane person" he bartered it away in exchange for the "meat that perishes."
@@seanhaney8748 Obeying Christ's commands is an expression of our love for Him. I assure you no heretical Pharisee loves Christ or obeys His commands. ANYONE who does not obey Christ does NOT love him no matter what theological beliefs they CONFESS. Jesus said: Whoever has My commandments and KEEPS THEM is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him." (John 14:15) Notice how Jesus links obedience to a love relationship with God and then makes this the basic requirement for salvation. Furthermore, Jesus said that to REMAIN in this Love (as opposed from moving OUT of it) we must CONTINUE to submit to Him: If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love. (John 15:10 ) By proclaiming a gospel that separates obedience from faith you encourage believers NOT to love Christ and as Paul said: "If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (cursed) Maranatha." (1 Corinthians 16:22) To every error there is an equal and opposite error. Opposite legalistic Phariseeism there is the equally heretical teaching of antinomian free grace.
@@seanhaney8748 Are you saying obeying the commands of Jesus is the same thing as the Pharisees attempting to establish their own righteousness through obedience to the Mosaic law? What you do not seem to understand is that outside the context of Paul's corrective remarks about the Judaizer's teaching, the word "works" simply means actions and does not necessarily mean "legal works" The word, as used by Jesus and James can also refer to obedient responses of the will or "doing what God said. 5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the OBEDIENCE that comes from FAITH for his name’s sake. (Romans 1:5) Paul never taught a "faith" that was separate from obedience or one that consisted merely of believing certain doctrinal propositions. Only those who have surrendered their lives to Him and continue to do His will throughout their lives on earth will inherit eternal life. …6 God “will repay each one according to his DEEDS.” 7 To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give ETERNAL LIFE (Romans 2:7)
Its really an awakening teaching for me ..thank you Lord for the life of Pastor Greg ..plse bless him and his family and his ministry ..in Jesus name ..amen..watching from UAE Dubai
God Jesus loves you Rosemarie! Do Not listen mr. Collins, because He have the spirit of ANTI-Christ (1 John 2:22,23)! Lord Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah)! LOVE in Christ!
Agreed. About the evidence in a persons life; no one knows where a person started from, so we shouldn’t be judging peoples hearts by the evidence/lack of evidence we see or don’t recognize👍🏻🕊
Amen, absolutely right, when we sin we get convicted by Holly Spirit, that is wonderful, Holly Spirit is in us and guide and protect us, we are sealed by the grace of God, praise the Lord God Almighty.
He gives the example of the sower The first guy responds with great enthusiasm. THAT PRETTY MUCH POINTS TO “being saved”. Trouble arises and he withers away. That pretty much points to “losing your salvation “
Jerry Collins To be a Son if Abraham you had to be of love. God is love. Look at the Good Samaritan. God’s redemption resides in love of God and one’s neighbor. Not of birthrights
Jerry Collins God taught the truth through Israel. Sent the Messiah to finish the Truth in the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled ALL the prophecies in Jesus. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Did Satan impregnate the Virgin. Angels have no physical bodies
Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?" Answer: First, the term Christian must be defined. A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9). So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? It’s a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail: A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed. A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ. A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench. A Christian is promised eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises, “Believe and you will have eternal life.” For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean “eternal”? A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13-14). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that God’s glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory. A Christian is guaranteed glorification. “Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified” (Romans 8:30). According to Romans 5:1, justification is ours at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification comes with justification. All those whom God justifies are promised to be glorified. This promise will be fulfilled when Christians receive their perfect resurrection bodies in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies. A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2). Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4). Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28-29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5-6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home. Jude 24-25 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.”
@Felix Mitchell I dont want do barge in or anything, but I read a verse in Colossians that said when you accept Christ that is locked in a "safe" and nothing can take you away from him. I am a new Christian so could you please explain this a little to me? Thanks!
Felix Mitchell - trust in the finished work of the cross. That’s it. Don’t worry about being a “fruit inspector” for others. Salvation is an eternal thing. Just deal with it. 🙏
Salvation is based on what you believe, not how you live your life. Romans 4:4-5 KJV - Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
A person can loose their salvation, by their will rejecting Christ. For by your will you accept Christ and by your will reject Christ, it's all about the will God never takes back His gift of salvation. It's like a family member, who doesn't want see or be a part of the family forever. You love that family member, and he or she will always be apart of the family, but you can't force them to be will the family if they don't want to.
But even if a family member doesn’t want to be part of the family anymore and reject them for whatever reason, it doesn’t change the FACT that he or she IS part of the family.
I have struggled with this topic and I had a hunch it was exactly what he said, works do not save us but they are manifestation of being saved, justification THEN Sanctification.
@@timothyseals3791 Prodigal son shows that the father always loved his son, no matter what the son was doing to himself. The son resumed his relationship to his father, not his sonship. The son never stopped being the son. The Father will never reject his sons (believers) no matter what we do to ourselves. OSAS is intrinsically Bibical, always has been. Blessings.
@@fandude7 Of Course God will always love us, but just because we are His sons does not mean that we will go to heaven no matter what. He loves everyone, but not everyone is going to heaven. The parable shows that the son was dead and became alive again. He was lost and found. He only became alive again and found again when he went back to his father. The father always loved him, but the son died and would have stayed dead if he did not go back to the father.
Heb 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, Heb 10:27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Heb 10:28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. Heb 10:29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? Heb 10:30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.”
Felix Mitchell I have a life and work so I do not much free time. 1. Not necessarily, no. Everyone's name is in the book of life from the foundation of the world. 2. Yes 3. No 4. Revelation not Revelations. Rev. 22:18-19. You really think a saved person would mess with God's word? See you are starting with a false notion that you can lose your salvation and now you don't understand the book of life at all. It would be an unsaved person turning reprobate in those verses. Ex: Joseph Smith. Again, with the imprecatory prayers by David in Psalm 69. He is praying against his enemies and praying for their death. They aren't saved, it's evident by the context. If his enemies are killed, their names are then taken out of the book of life, unless they were reprobate. So if David is asking for his enemies to be taken out of the book of life, does that mean you think they were saved in the first place? With Rev 3:5 are you implying that salvation is based on works? And where in the Bible does it mention anyone's name being added to the book of life? Have you ever lost your salvation before? If so, how did you earn it back? What must you do to go to heaven anyway?
@Felix Mitchell Clearly you did not understand my response, the book of life, and or you are purposely trying to slander me. My previous response clearly contradicts your last pedantic attempt to slander me. Clearly you are not saved. You don't understand the Bible.
Duke Scanlan Someone who Confesses that Jesus is lord but they don’t read the bible, pray and they live for the world. Do you think that they are saved
@@ShadowsOnly3 If they are truly saved and born again, then yes. No works can save you, and nothing you can do to lose it. Contrary to the fool directly above me.
We work out out of salvation not for our salvation it is a Gift from God if we couldn't work for salvation or from good works how can we lose it we all sin and fall short of the Glory of God if we say we have no sin then we make God a liar and the truth is not in us if we confess and repent of our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us
Hebrews 6:4-6 warns us: 4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame." (NKJV).
AMEN. Consider this also. And some will try to tell us that if a Christian ever backslides, or falls back into sin, that they "were never saved to begin with".. That is completely wrong. By the very meaning of the words, you CANNOT backslide from, depart from, or fall away from... something that you never had! If you never had it, you could not backslide from it, depart from it ,or fall away from it...
@Jerry Collins He went there to preach the (good news). Where is Jesus now? Ephesians 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: Ephesians 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
@Jerry Collins wow bro. Your lies run deep. John 8.44 is directed specifically at those jews who rejected him and rejected Abraham. And he never said anything in john 18 about him not being the christ. And both of his parents were descendants of David.
@Jerry Collins can i pray for you bro?? You're just goofy. Jesus isn't being "oppressed and afflicted" while they're asking him questions. Isaiah is talking about his scourging. Don't you know how that works?? Scourging was designed to force a confession out of someone, to get an admission of guilt throughthe intense pain of ripping your body to pieces. They tell you in advance that you're going to get 39 lashes and it can stop whenever you confess. THAT'S the affliction. And while he was scourged he said and confessed nothing because he was guilty of nothing. You should read the old testament closer.
@Jerry Collins maybe you need glasses. "He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth." I don't see the name "pilate" anywhere. But i DO see Jesus being silent while he is being afflicted EXACTLY LIKE isaiah said.
AHHHH this video parallels my faith journey far too closely!!!! I held off being fully baptized for so long because I thought it would be blasphemy to get baptized again! I was sprinkle baptized at 13 because my mother told me to, despite me wanting to get baptized myself before she told me I had to. I was baptized, but because I wasn't all in; I didn't understand the fullness of what I was "buying into" for a lack of words. My heart's soil, my soul's soil was SO shallow!!!! Ridiculously so!!! I THOUGHT I was saved, but kept sinning! Kept indulging in things I should not have! And I wasn't truly sorry for it!! But this last summer, July 9th 2021, I rededicated my life to Christ and got fully submerged in baptismal waters. I didn't understand everything there is to know about the Bible and about Life, and I still don't, but I knew and know God does. I dedided to begin truly run blindly towards Him, knowing that even though I don't really know what to do in life, God does. He made me, and then saved me, which means He wants me, and loves me. And loves me so much He was willing to live as a man and be tortured to death so that all of mankind could be saved. And I want Him back!! I want to show Him back as much love as my human heart and body is capable of! And now I feel horrible guilt when I sin. I cry sometimes when I sin. It's something I can't completely avoid as a human, but I always end up back at the feet of God crying for forgiveness and telling Him how much I hate these habits that want to come back. Living a life for Christ really does mean working it out. It's a two way relationship, and you have to let God have the lead in it. It's a journey, a process, something that takes progress and effort and strength, and so much more. So much that we don't have, that God supplies for us.
Great testimony, but Baptism did not save you; it was your sincere repentance from sin, and trust in Jesus death and resurrection for your salvation. Baptism is a later event that a person experiences after they believe and are saved. Baptism is an outward sign of what has already happened on the inside as we are Born Again by the Spirit of God. Baptism is a statement we are making that we are publicly proclaiming we no longer belong to this world and sin, but are now dead to our old life. Coming out of the water, we are entering a new life, a new commitment to live a life worthy of Jesus great sacrifice for us. Blessings!
Those who believe they can lose their salvation are confused about what salvation is. There is a falling away from one's profession of faith and there is a saving faith which perseveres to the end because God preserves His saints who are faithful (Psalm 31:23) If God preserves His saints (and He does) then who can snatch them out of His hand? See John 10:27-29
Hebrews 6:1-2 says: 1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, 2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. Notice that it says "not laying again a foundation" in verse 1. This has the idea of permanence. When you build a house, you lay a foundation. You don't come back later and lay the foundation again. Clearly this means that we only need to repent of our sins and believe the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) once in regards to our salvation. Hebrews 6:4-5 says: 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, 5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, This portion of scripture is being addresed to born again believers in Jesus Christ. In verse 4 it states that these believers have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 4:30 says: And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. This verse makes it clear that a believer can grieve the Holy Spirit by sinning, and yet still be sealed for the day of redemption (see Ephesians 1:13-14). Hebrews 6:6 says: If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame. This verse states that for those who have fallen away (living under the power and control of the flesh - Galatians 5:17, 5:19-21), that it is impossible (see vs 4) to renew them again unto repentance. That is because our repentance is foundational and can NEVER be laid down again.
The good news + 5 point list = bad news (not saving) Jesus + nothing = salvation and eternal security and the only true salvation. Jesus' shed blood, his death, burial and resurection IS THE ONLY PROOF I NEED
Can you please comment on what Jesus said? Thank you for your time: “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" -Jesus "You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved." -Jesus "I am the vine; you are the branches .... If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned …. Abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love " -Jesus
’e-ḇen the first one they rely on their works instead of Jesus they say have WE not prophesied in your name, instead of trusting in Jesus they rely on their work and Jesus says they practice lawlessness which is not a trait of someone who is saved, these verses aren’t about someone losing salvation it’s proof they were never saved to begin with when you are truly saved you will do many works, “faith without works is dead” means that they weren’t believers and they did works to save themselves when this does not work you have to only rely on Jesus that’s it, after that you will begin to make fruit and works, make sense?
@@portaadonai these are they who trusted in their works to get to heaven, this is no different then Islamic doctrine. Who base their obediences and good works to get them to heaven. Obedience has nothing to do with us receiving Salvation. It is only so.ething God gives us through what Christ did on the cross. And we know that salvation is a gift and the gifts of God are never taken away. God isn't an Indian giver. And if you think so, then please show me the difference between other gods and The God if the Bible..
risingStar No need to be confused. We are in the church age, we are saved by grace through faith, Not of works ephesians 2:8-9. Even if you don’t work at all your faith is counted for righteousness romans 4:4-5. Once you have put your faith in Christ alone you receive the holy spirit and are born again John 1:12. SEALED until the day of redemption ephesians 4:30. If a verse looks like it is talking about losing salvation you need to study the context. Salvation is a FREE GIFT romans 5:15-16. We are in the Church age so the mystery was revealed to Paul by the risen Christ and he was made the apostle of the Gentiles romans 11:13. In the Gospel Jesus spoke a lot about the tribulation time period, which won’t be faith alone but works also. May the peace of Christ be with you. Amen.
This guy adds to the Gospel! Once a person is saved, they are always saved. He mixes discipleship, service and everything else into the simplicity of the Gospel. The only evidence for salvation is who the person is trusting in. If they trust that Jesus has saved them when he died for their sins, was buried, & rose again the third day, then they are saved & should know that they have eternal life, which cannot be lost. Those that believe that they have to do anything at all, to remain saved, do something to get saved besides believing, and think that they could lose salvation are not saved. Ephesians 1:13-14 “13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, 14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.”
I think you misunderstood Greg. We do believe that once you are saved, you are always saved, if you continue to believe. God didn't force you to be saved; He will not force you to stay saved. But... He did know who would be truly saved even before He made the universe. Those whom God knew would choose Jesus and remain with Him, He chose them for eternal life. Blessings!
In my opinion, it’s dangerous to teach that you can lose your salvation. Once you’re truly saved, you are sealed. That probably sounds cliche, but, if it’s true, then, it’s true. As someone who used to worry that I would lose my salvation for putting my left shoe on my right foot, so to speak, I can vouch for the unnecessary anxiety that teaching a doctrine like this can give a person. I actually would get physically sick( it’s a bit more personal and gross than that, so, I’m not gonna go into details, but you get the point ) because it was all that I could think about. I was driving myself crazy. Why would a loving God want us to question our salvation if He’d gone to such a length to ensure it? It’s like, to put it simply and not give it justice, the whole premise of Finding Nemo where Marlin is working so hard to find Nemo. No matter what happens in the future, ‘ Nemo ‘ knows that his dad loves him because he spent so much time, trying to find him. I know that I just completely butchered that, but my point is: When Jesus said that it was finished, He meant it. There was no ‘ it’s finished until they do this or that ‘. Any sin is reason enough to keep us away from God-we are kept away from God until we obtain salvation. Therefore, if we’re saved, and we go off in a moment of anger or do something else like that, isn’t that enough grounds for losing our salvation? If that were the case, then, I’m pretty sure none of us would be able to proclaim that we’re saved by grace because we wouldn’t be anymore. No, you can’t just say the prayer and move on with a sinful life. But teaching that you can lose your salvation altogether sounds pretty legalistic and even nightmarish to me. Salvation is freely given to those who choose to accept it. The Holy Spirit will guide you; what follows is up to you.
Yes, I know the teaching is not palatable, but it is true. You can be disqualified from the prize by your sinful conduct. A born again person can "die" again if they walk in the flesh. Paul makes this clear. I love Greg Laurie. And I respect him immensely. But on this topic, we are miles a part.
Whenever this question pops up, even in my own life, I like to keep it simple. Simplicity is the key to peace in everything with God because notice how every man and woman on this thread is complicating the issue with this and that all while quoting Scripture? It comes down to this simple understanding and then leave it there. Ask yourself, Which one of the thieves am I hanging next to Christ on the Cross? Every time something or someone tried to put some doubt or place an extra little thing to do in my path, no matter how much Scripture they quoted or reading that sounded whole, I just remembered which thief I am hanging on the Cross next to Jesus. I thank my God for His simple, beautiful, and unfettered love for me. I pray you let him love you this way too.
Exodus 32 31-33, Revelation 3 5 . YES WE CAN LOOSE OUR SALVATION. We can't just leave a sinfull life & expected to make to Heaven with out any repentance of our sin. ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS A CULTTEACHING
People here are arguing about whether or not you lose your salvation. Here’s my answer with common sense. Once you are in the hands of God he will never leave your side. Once you are on fire for God, and believe that Jesus died for your sins, you love him, understand that you’re a sinner and realize that none of us are perfect, then God will let us have everlasting life. John 3:16 - For God so loved the world (he loves every single person) that he gave his only begotten son (Jesus) so that whoever believes in him (us christians) will not perish but will have everlasting life. (In heaven with God/Jesus forever) That verse alone proves that if we are saved, we simply cannot be stripped away due to our actions. If that is the case then everyone of us are going to hell because sin is inevitable and there’s no way anyone and I mean ANYONE can avoid sin. Therefore with that being said if christians believe that you can lose your salvation that’s straight from hell and it’s the devil trying to confuse you. God won’t ever leave your side and he loves you with all of his heart. Everyone sins and falls short of the glory of God which means that in that verse alone, Paul is saying that everyone sins, everyone will sin, and everyone will continue to sin, which means that if you are saying that christians can lose our salvation, then being a Christian is pointless and everyone will go to hell. But that’s not the case at all. Much love and God bless I hope this made sense
Your teaching of such a simple verse John 3:16 was perverted by you as most others do. the phrase " will not perish" does not exist in John 3:16, it says and rightfully so " should not perish ", so those who believe in Jesus should not perish, but many will. Matthew 7:21 - 22, Jesus himself said there would be many, and they even refer to Him as Lord. you false teaching is from Satan and will help no one. should not!
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. Matthew 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Notice how God only mentions their works....but not their faith. This is an example of those who believe you can lose your Salvation if you don't do enough works or don't obey enough. These people obviously did works in the name of Jesus so they "believed" in Him partly which isn't really believing, but they didn't believe 100%. Jesus only knows those who truly believe in what He did on the cross). Acts 15:7-15 And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” ... Romans 10:9 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. Acts 16:30-33 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family. John 3:16-18 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. Galatians 2:21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose. Romans 6:14 For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. Romans 10:9-10 Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. John 6:37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. Ephesians 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 2 Timothy 1:9 Who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began Romans 8:38-39 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord. 1 Peter 1:8-9 Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls. Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed. John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. Isaiah 64:6 We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away. ~~~~~ I can keep going....Like Isaiah said, our righteous deeds our like filthy rags. How can they save us then after we are already born again and sealed with the Holy Spirit. They can't. Obeying the Law does not save you, its calling out to Jesus and believing in your heart that He is Lord and Savior, and died for our sins and rose on the third day, giving us eternal security if we believe. Let God be true and every man a liar....If you claim that you can lose your eternal security, you are calling Paul, and God Himself a liar. Like Peter said, demanding that we remain "sinless" by practicing works and repenting after every single sinful thought and actions is a burden that is impossible to bear. Only Jesus is sinless. We will always be unaware of a sin we did, we will always fall short every single second of the day. It's impossible to keep up. Do we give up and just not try to keep a good relationship with God? Of course not!! But we do NOT lose our salvation even if someone unfortunately does. Because we are not saved by our own merit, therefore we cannot boast about how much we pray or repent or read the bible for our salvation. Salvation is a free gift from God, and I hate when people say you can throw that gift away....no you can't! That gift is TATTOOED into our souls. It's permanent. It's ingrained in us now as much as the Holy Spirit is...since the Holy Spirit is the one who is sealing us. Let's say I had a porn problem and even with the help of the Holy Spirit I still fell short and gave into sin once in a long while...if the rapture happens right when I'm falling short and watching porn, even though Jesus knows I believe and will ask for forgiveness (not to be saved, but because I love God), will I still go to hell because the rapture happened to occur when I was making a mistake I hardly make anymore? NOOOOOO. Absolutely NOT. The devil will make you believe that one sin will throw you into hell after you're saved, and soon you will give up because you will realize your flesh will always remain sinful and you will always fall short. When you believe that your own works won't save you, then you will truly believe in the what Jesus did on the cross and God's grace will not be a burden on you...In Matthew 11:28 Jesus says his yoke is easy and his burden is light....if you have the burden of believing that you will go to hell every time you sin and forget to ask for forgiveness, then that is not a light and easy burden. It is definitely hard to live for Christ when you believe that you are saved by your own righteousness, when it says in Isaiah even your best deeds are filthy rags.The bible says nothing in earth or heaven which includes US, can separate us from the Love of Jesus once we are saved. NOTHING, not even YOU. I used to believe in Lordship Salvation and guess what...I sinned more back then, I took it less seriously. When you are so invested in the Law, you notice you tend to break it more. But when I rest in the Grace of Jesus and know that I can never be plucked out of His hand...I do not fall into sin as much and I trust Him SO MUCH MORE. I am led by His grace and not by own effort anymore. I am done trying to be good enough because that is something I can't accomplish. Jesus' righteousness is mine. My righteousness is filthy and it can't save me any more than doing 100 hundred push ups a day and eating only fruits and veggies can stop me from dying one day. REPENT (which is a change of mind that only happens once because we believe and receive the Holy Spirit, even God repented in the bible), and believe in the TRUE gospel of GRACE through FAITH alone in CHRIST alone. Lordship Salvation is a doctrine of demons meant to burden a Christian.
So if someone gives me a gift I can’t lose it? My parents gave me some shoes, that I did nothing to earn, and I lost them, the same is true for your salvation
Psalms 51 (David asked God not to take away the Holy Spirit). It means that if you grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30) it will flee from you and you have taken yourself out of the salvation on your own will.
Let me add something, a very HUGE slice of typology from Matthew: The verse about the "Ten Virgins." The word "virgin here, refers to those who had been "cleansed," as it were--of their sins; well, guess what--about HALF of them failed to "keep their LAMPS lit." I think you KNOW what that means! They had no more "oil," (Spirit). In other words, they LOST the anointing (in God's word) that they once HAD. They went out looking for some, but, it was TOO late! Add to THAT the warning, in the book of Revelation of a "Great falling away." Honestly people, I understand your concerns, and your perceptions on how you think GOD should think--but keep in mind--not only does He not FORCE us to come unto Him, He does not FORCE us to STAY in Him That is NOT God's way. For love to be of any TRUE, lasting value, it not only must be a decision of the heart--it must be KEPT! Think about that. There is an element inherent in the OSAS doctrine that is potentially dangerous, and that IS, it leaves us to think that no matter how much trouble (sin) we have in our lives--God has it COVERED! Well, yes--and no! If we are TRULY repentive and are doing our level BEST to pray for STRENGTH in these areas, then YES--it IS covered--but if a person begins to take that sin, or weakness for granted (perhaps you attend a church that is a bit "watered-down), there can begin a process where you are no longer making a conscientious effort to STOP that habitual problem--it HAPPENS--mark my word! So, be sober-minded, and do not give the devil/s too much "rope." Pray and be blessed! Amen.
Its like you are saying that Jesus finished works at the cross WAS NOT enough because you need to be righteous just to maintain salvation. Aren't you make yourself a CO-SAVIOR and CO-REDEEMER with Jesus Christ. My friend Ray, you are not worthy for you are a sinner. Jesus alone can save you and He did it already. What He requires for you is to BELIEVE on Him and His FINISHED WORKS at the cross. You can't lost your salvation because it is a GIFT from God.
Romans 11:21-22 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you...continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. Rev 3:5 He who overcomes...i will not erase his name from the book of life.
Michael Reidy this can be a difficult and upsetting discussion. What about before Romans 11 and going back to Romans 9 chooses whom will have mercy, and how he raised Pharoh only to demonstrate his power to the nations, God demonstrates His sovereignty throughout the Bible, your thoughts brother.
Correct, I WILL not blot out of his name. Not might. A promise :-) You say, but don't we get all added to the Book of Life when we get saved? Psalm 139.16 says otherwise
Lukewarm Christians will be shut out of the kingdom of heaven. Those who PRACTISE unrepentant sin no longer have the blood covering it as you once delivered return to your old sinful nature you are better off you did not taste the freedom in Christ. I know there is Grace but all Jesus parables speak of lost son returning. But no one thinks if he never repents he is dead. No one preaches the whole council of God. A true believer will have spirit and power to break any sin so you do not PRACTISE sin repent sin repent...... Look at the 5 wise foolish vergins. Look at the wheat and tares. The parable of talents. The revelation church letters. The ones who Jesus says I do not know you. Then after he says that he adds those who PRACTISE LAWLESSNESS. LAWLESSNESS is sin. Look at the ones that are left outside the kingdom. What about Jesus is coming back for a church without spot and wrinkle. Scripture says the spirit will keep you from sin. Noticed Jesus washed apostles feet. Peter said not so and Jesus said then you have no part in me. Jesus knew our feet would get dirty with random sin. When I read parables it about a hard sins. The ones you keep repeating. Even when Jesus healed he sternly warned to not sin. I still sin today but I do not PRACTISE a bound sin. Personally it's a heart issue. I do not and repeat am not your master. I have a master and it's Jesus. I cannot be God and say some other servant is saved or not. God knows your secret things so you can fool people but got sees the inside. God wants to clean inside and then outside will be clean. God convicted me without anyone preaching. I was in porn sin and the scripture says if you die with this you will be cast into lake of fire. Adultery, fornicatiors, unbelievers, fearful, liers, criminals, drug users, smokers, alcoholics, rapist, murders and the sorcerer. Those that practice these things will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Repent and love God with all your mind heart and BODY and love your neighbor as yourself. God gives you this love to obey him. Otherwise why would we need Jesus when we could work it out ourselves. The difference between old covenant is they sinned and had to sacrifice animals for atonement. But they did not have the power of holy spirit to be born again. The new covenant you now can be born again. Free from shackles of sin. Free from the porn,free from drugs,free from unfogiveness, free from bitterness, free from stealing and on and on. You get the fruit of the spirit . one fruit is self control! So only you know your heart. Do you live a secret life? Are you lukewarm? Do you obey Jesus teachings on the sermon on the mount? If not then you are in danger of the lake of fire. Work out your salvation with fear and TREMBLING. The fear of the serverness of God fell on me and got me to repent. God is a consuming fire. Make no mistake God's coming back to judge the wicked. Come out of the pigpen and return to the sheepfold. Do not remain in your sins that will lead to death. Put off the old man and walk in spirit so you do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Remember those that do God's will are his mother's, brothers, sisters. Those that do not follow Jesus teaching are already dead. Guard your heart ad there are many false teaching out here. Works and obedience are seperate things. Our good deeds are filthy rags to God. King Saul disobeyed God and Samuel prophet told his disobedience is as witchcraft! God wants you to obey him. God also has mercy over sacrifice. God gives grace to humble but resists the proud. Makes you wonder when those who don't get in prophsied in his name , cast out demons in his name and did many wonderful things in his name and heard I do not know you. Read the next line........you who PRACTISE LAWLESSNESS. You can live it up and risk lake of fire or walk narrow path. I will end with this. He who yeilds to flesh brings death. He who yeilds to spirit has external life.
Jesus says the one who believes has or posseses eternal or everlasting life. John 6:47, 17:3, 5:24, etc Everlasting life never ends by definition. If you lose it, you never had it. You lost temporary life. But the belieber has everlasting life and everlasting belief because they go together.
Zain Jones All of the verses in the New Testament that refers to obedience is talking about the obedience of believing and trusting in the true gospel of faith alone. That is the obedience that is required for salvation. If you believe anything else besides that you are not being obedient. So yes faith and obedience are tied together because if you have true faith you are being obedient to Jesus. Plus we are not saved by submitting our wills to him simply because submitting your will to him is impossible. The only way to submit your will to Jesus or to serve him in a way that we’ll grant you eternal life if to do that to absolute perfection. Which no one can. So if you have sinned ever then you have not submitted your well to Jesus. Also Jesus is Lord whether you claim him as your Lord or not. He doesn’t need you to grant him as your Lord. He already is simply because he is God.
@emanuel kournianos No believer on the Earth now posses Eternal life in the actual sense. When a person gets "born again" they receive ET as a promise to be cashed in, as it were, when you die. EL is not time-life into never ending time. We don't know what it is so many people apply our limited understanding of never ending time. But it is not never ending time. Thus, a person can "lose" ET if they are disobedient in their lives on the Earth. And by disobedience, I mean living a sinful life here on the Earth. How much sin? I don't know, but God knows. God knows the difference between mistakes from time to time and wilfull disobedient life style. For example: Maybe one day I'm hanging out with friends, I let me guard down, had a few drinks and got drunk. Compare that to a person who gets hammered all the time. There is a difference. That's not to say that the 1st case isn't bad, but it's not the same as the latter.
no matter how Holy you think you can live...if you are "happy", since he was throwing that term around a little loosely, and comfortable in the flesh, something is wrong!
The Bible is clear over and over again that God wants us to be happy. That is not incomaptiable with holiness. Holiness is true happiness. That is not the same as taking delight in sin........
@@eddiemirtille9294 Has nothing to do with Salvation. The Spirit did not indwell a person until after Calvary. Saul was annointed with the Spirit UPON him for service.
@@Species-rj9si thanks i know that Spirit upon us is for the service till today ( expérience of Pentecostal or baptism with the Spirit and fire of Christ after the new birth luke 24 verse 49) So are you received the Spirit upon you on order to be a servant doing the works of the Lord? Obviously not regarding your wrong understanding of the Word of God Now just take a look at this parable especially here : Luke 19 20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth.21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’ 22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, *you wicked servant* ! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’ 24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’ 25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’ 26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.27 *But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”* The wicked servant is not saved Matthew 25 26His lord answered and said unto him, Thouwicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: 27Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and thenat my coming I should have received mine own with usury. 28Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. 29For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 *And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.* Matthew 24 v 45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 *The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teet* Luke 13 He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’ “But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ 26 “Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 “But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’ 28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.” You are not saved yet😉 Get some oil before it s too late ( life is short the end of your time is near and the door can be closed for you at any moment )
7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, *he that openeth, and no man shutteth ( but the Lord himself === 1 Samuel 16 v 14 ) ; and shutteth, and no man openeth;* You understand now ? A sentinelle of Christ appointed by Christ. Special calling spititual Judge on 1 cor 6 v 2 and 3 Spiritual tribe as a spiritual jew : Dan Blessings of Dan Deut 33 v 22, Genesis 49 v 16 To 18 Actuality of such a calling Isaiah 1 v 26 New birth at the age of 25 in 2001 Baptism with the Spirit and fire by the Lord God CHRIST on the 7/7/2014 ( 777). Dan is here in the celestial Jérusalem Ezechiel 48 v 1 Dan was the tribe of Samson the tribe of the 7th Part Joshua 19 v 40 The tribe of the 7th Part in the celestial Jérusalem Will be the tribe of Judah Ezechiel 48 v 7
My oil will not save you if you have already been marked by the Beast by God because of false doctrines ===) 2 thess 2 v 9 To 12. That is a spiritual mark and Cain was the first to have it. 😭
A saved person can not lose their salvation because our salvation is based on the completed work of Jesus Christ, not by our own works. Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
"you're not saved by your works, but if you dont have the works then you were not really saved" sounds like a convoluted way to say you're saved by your works :)
He doesn't know how to rightly divide.....and gets stuck in teaching from james and Hebrews......that are meant for jews…….not Christians living in the AGE OF GRACE....!
Yes, yes you can. " For it is impossible to renew to repentance those who were once enlightened, who tasted the heavenly gift, who shared in the Holy Spirit, who tasted God’s good word and the powers of the coming age, and who have fallen away. This is because, to their own harm, they are re-crucifying the Son of God and holding him up to contempt." Hebrews 6:4-6 Those that were covered by the blood in the Passover were saved. It didn't matter if they were murderers, rapists, pedophiles, thieves, or any matter of lawlessness. All they had to do was believe enough in the blood to "save" them from the wrath that was coming. But just because they partook in the gift of salvation from the wrath that came did not mean they continued on into the promised land. Most of them committed idolatry in the wilderness, even though they had seen heavenly gifts and shared in the Holy Spirit. No one can take your salvation but you can walk away from it. Once saved always saved is a dangerous doctrine and is used by many to continue in sin. And that whole "maybe they where not saved in the first place" is a lie as well. Just read again the above verse. The bible uses the word "IF" a lot. "If" we continue in God's laws, "if" we endure to the end, then we will make into the promised land, that is, eternity.
"4 I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time..." (1 Corinthians 4:4-5 rsvce)
Im here struggling. I met my first love at a bible camp, we dated for almost 2 years and grew strong in Christ together. His parents have been missionaries his whole life so he knew how to be saved and lived a strong christian life.. until we broke up. He got in with some very dark things in this world and Satan took over his life so bad that a few days ago he took his own life. I care for him very deeply but could not associate myself with him anymore due to the choices he was making and I just feel awful. I want to feel secure that he is in heaven and that he did not lose his salvation.. I pray that he just veered off the wrong path and God still saved him because for the majority of his life he has been saved.
It IS possible that God made a way for him, precious one, but make no mistake, scripture carries far more warnings about our faith then "pats on the back." Read my other comments to get a better "read" on this issue. God bless you "Alli," and "continue" in what you KNOW to be true. God bless you.
Don't consume yourself worrying about his salvation trust that God knew what was best he was a troubled soul that got caught up but still loved God...only God knows his heart...I encourage and implore you to keep running for Jesus...he loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life....trust in him and don't waiver. The enemy wants to send you on a guilt trip...NO! Forgive your boyfriend and forgive yourself...break the soul tie so you can be free...I am praying for you in Jesus name..may your heart be lifted and God does something miraculous with your life...God speed!
No, you cannot! But only if you are truly saved! Otherwise not at all! Laurie does it the right way, to encourage true believers and to warn people who think they are saved but disobey the commandments
Sheep Dog - your fiddling about with semantics to suit your limited perception. Eternal Life has no beginning (contrast with Everlasting life, which has a beginning but no end) and using your faulty logic a person with Eternal Life always had it and that quality only belongs to God, Who has no beginning! "For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit (DIVINE ETERNAL LIFE) and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, AND THEN HAVE FALLEN AWAY, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance ....." Hebrews 6:4-6
ShieldOfTheKingdom Eternal security is right but it's only for born again Christians, not for those who merely honor Jesus with their lips but don't know him in their hearts. I would recommend you to read 1 John Chapter 3. GBY
Romans 3:23 All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All, not some, but all. Romans 3:10 There is none righteous, no not one. So, we are all unrighteous ungodly sinners in Gods eyes. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. If salvation was not a free gift, no one could be saved. Sinners can not save themselves. John 3:18 Believers are not condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE "TEMPORARY"LIFE. NO, IT IS ETERNAL LIFE. You can not lose eternal life. And since it is a free gift from God, we have nothing to boast in. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. IT is free.
Amen brother! People who dont believe in eternal security are trying to add self effort in some way Jesus did what we could not and paid our sin debt if we believe He did. And just so no one tried to jump on me saying we can sin all we want while that is technically true the saved person will not WANT to sin but we fail and fall in this life anyone who continues in wilful sin and enjoys is is not saved to begin with
jim kraft Eternal life is in the Son: …11 And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is IN HIS SON. (1 John 5:11) Only those who remain in the Vine share the life with Him 5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you DO NOT REMAIN in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and WITHERS; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. (John 15:5-6) Branches bear fruit because they are conduits of the vine's life. Verse 6 says that it is POSSIBLE for someone who has been organically joined to Christ to not stay there but to become disconnected. When that happens Jesus said that the branch WITHERS, that is, it slowly dies. When all the activity of life has ceased it is taken outside the vineyard and incinerated.
You don't get your eternal life yet pal. Christ has to return. Judgment day has to occur. That's when the rest of the world gets offered salvation. That's when you confess to God of your belief. That's when you get baptized and become an immortal spirit. Right now you are a physical mortal, sinner, claiming to believe.
@@jeffouellette9946 Because of the time line in God's plan. There first has to be tribulation, then seven seals opened, then Christ has to return, then judgment day. Then salvation to righteousness. That's why the ignorant or decieved, run around lying to themselves and others that they are "saved", or "born again".
Grace And Peace. *The NEW OWNER Of a believer Makes The "Choice" of NOT "Losing"* *God's ETERNAL Salvation! Always ALWAYS "check" With HIM By ALL Of HIS Sound Doctrine!I* Amen?: Part 1 *God's ETERNAL Salvation!:* *MISSION: To Exalt The LORD JESUS CHRIST by proclaiming ALL The Counsel Of God,* *According To HIS Revelation Of The Mystery!* Amen? *GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!* Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand" *God's ETERNAL Salvation Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so, *The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?: *God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!* For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!* Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please "remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!) for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!): *FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?: *(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)* *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:* 100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,* *In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!* *(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)* *Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:* *The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)* ***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"*** ***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"* *Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,* *so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:*** *"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,* *Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:* *And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"* *(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen? --------------------------------------------- IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!, Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:* *"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith* *The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,* *And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,* *Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Therefore: *God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"* *believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!* rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!: *"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,* *And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)* ------------------------------------------------------------------- continued in Part 2: *God's ETERNAL Salvation!...*
Part 3: *ALL Of God's ETERNAL Salvation! SCRIPTURES! = 80!* *LORD JESUS, we humbly ask that This Presentation Of THY* *Wonderful Doctrine From THY Precious And HOLY Word will* *be an Encouragement And Blessing to many For The Honor* *And Glory Of THEE And THY HOLY And Precious Name.* Amen. Total *"Plain And Clear Passages"* ( ALL From The *KJV* ): *FOR God’s ETERNAL Salvation:* Found in God’s “Prophetic” Program, Under *HIS Law = 35!:* *Everlasting Or Eternal Life!* - believest thou this?: Daniel 12 : 2; Matthew 19 : 16, 29, Mark 10 : 17, 30; Luke 10 : 25, 18 : 18; John 3 : 15-16, 36, 4 : 14, 5 : 39, 6 : 27, 40, 47, 54, 68, 17 : 2; 1 John 1 : 2, 2 : 25, 3 : 15! (21) *JESUS, The Author Of ETERNAL Life,* *Plainly And Clearly Proclaimed:* *“Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth MY Word,* *And believeth on HIM WHO Sent ME, hath everlasting life,* *and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from* *death unto life!” (John 5 : 24!)* (1) (22) Shall *NEVER* see death! John 8 : 51! (1) (23) *And whosoever liveth and believeth in ME Shall Never die!* *Believest thou this?* John 11 : 26 (1) (24) belief/baptism = *Shall Be Saved!* Mark 16 : 16; Acts 2 : 38 (2) (26) *Father Gave HIS Saved To HIS SON/CHRIST Will Lose None!* John 6 : 39, 8 : 9, 17 : 12 (3) (29) *CHRIST “KNOWS” HIS ETERNALLY Saved/nothing plucks* *them Out Of The Father’s, Nor The SON’s, Hands!* (3) (32) *(John 10 : 27-29!)* *CHRIST, The Omniscient Almighty God, “Knows the hearts”* *of those who do Not believe, And Will “Declare To them” In* *Future Judgment, HE "NEVER Knew" workers of iniquity!* (3) (35) *(Matthew 7 : 21-23!)* *God’s ETERNAL Life, Plain And Clear Passages, Under the LAW: (35)* *Rightly Divided From GRACE...* sorry, since you "cannot" see More *Than THREE "Reply Boxes," this will be continued tomorrow, so you "can see" The Next THREE, thanks to TH-cam "shadow banning" to be cont'd In...................... Part 4: *ALL Of God's GRACE Scriptures!*
Part 6: *Approval Unto God!:* Previous "study!:" Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"* {friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?} *Or is...* ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From *CHRIST To HIS TWELVE,* _on the earth!_ *Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_“Things That DIFFER!”:_* -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *...Or Is This FOR us Today?:* *From CHRIST To HIS ONE, **_From Heaven!!_* *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY!"* *God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”* *(Ephesians 1 : 4!)* *Kept Secret “since the world began”* *(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)* *(2) **_Representative_** apostle + number! For:* *God’s Revelation Of GRACE In HIS MYSTERY,* *From CHRIST, In HEAVEN, To:* { Friend, IF you have NEVER prayerfully/carefully “studied” *This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s **_“Distinctive”_** ministry From God! )* before, Please take some time for *”Approval Unto God!,”* Please? } *Paul, Chosen By God, as ONE individual apostle,* *BOTH Roman and Hebrew,* *(Acts 9 : 6, 15, 13 : 2, 20 : 24, 22 : 1-15, 21, 25-28, 26 : 17-18;* *Philippians 3 : 5; Romans 1 : 1, 11 : 13, 15 : 16-18;* *Galatians 1 : 15, 2 : 7-8; Ephesians 3 : 1; 1 Timothy 1 : 11, 2 : 7;* *2 Timothy 1 : 11!), **_represents:,_* *Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5 : 17-6:2!), of* *BOTH Jew and Gentile, as “INDIVIDUALS,” Into “ONE New Man!”* *(Ephesians 2 : 15-16!)* *SPIRITUALLY Baptized ( And "Spiritually United as* *_members of one another!"_** ), BY: ONE Baptism!* *(1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5!), Into:* *Into ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ... ... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,* *The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The Only HEAD Of HIS Church!!* *(Acts 22 : 27-28; Philippians 3 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13;)* *(Ephesians 2 : 11-16, 4 : 1-6!, 5 : 30!)* *Praise HIS Precious NAME!* Amen? *The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:* *“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,* *How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;* *And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day* *According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)* + *"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:* *It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"* *( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )* *{ GRACE **_Found_** 85 Times! }* *And, The MYSTERY **_Includes_** The LORD’s "Greater" GRACE Commission! =* *Ministry of RECONCILIATION!* *"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By* *JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;* *to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,* *Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us* *The Word Of Reconciliation!* *Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech* *you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For* *HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might be* *made the righteousness of God In HIM!* *We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive* *not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time* *accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now* *is the accepted time; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION!!)”* *(2 Corinthians 5 : 18-6:2!)* End: *God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!* Friends, after “comparing” Law vs *GRACE!* Which is FOR us Today? Or... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ...are they BOTH FOR us, today, in which case we ask: ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is A Vast "Difference" Between 12 AND *"ONE,"* Correct? Would not “Choosing” BOTH Make This Fatal ERROR, & we can just stay with the "Modern" "wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo": (1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions" { or, "Pick & Choose!" } Method... ..."remaining" as: a weak And _Severely Divided_ *Church, Displeasing God!,* Correct? Friends, "which" of these "gospels" do "you Believe," In *God's Age of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God!* *(Galatians 1 : 6-9!)???* *(2) Gospel of GRACE!* || (1) gospel of the kingdom, (3) “Combo gospel” IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please, *Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:* *"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye separate,* *Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]* *thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,* *And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"* *(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)* ----------------------------------------------- *LORD JESUS, we humbly pray that Any And ALL confused over the* *"Division of Many Over salvation/baptismS/commissionS,” have been* *Truly Blessed With This **_Solving The Confusion_** study! Amen.* ----------------------------------------------- *GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE,* *to The Honor And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD And* *SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!* Amen? cont'd *In Closing!...*
That’s true, the thief didn’t have time to do that, but what about us? I struggle with sin and feel that Jesus will deny me like how He said in Matthew 10:32-33
Except when you give it up through your own free will. Note what Paul wrote TO THE CHURCH in Rome (in other words those who were saved) in Romans 11: So do not become proud, but fear. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off It's an unavoidable conclusion. Those who believe and are grafted into the tree of life can be cut off.
Well great....I believed since I was child and have re-confirmed my faith time and time again; but now I doubt my own salvation because I sin and have backslidden and repented, wash, rinse repeat.. Thanks.
John 8:31; "if we CONTINUE in his word, THEN we are has disciples indeed." You cannot "continue" in something unless you were INVOLVED in that thing to BEGIN with. Think on this.
@@raygabrelcik2578 if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You will continue in His Word. Take me, i was a criminal, a thief beyond belief. Now i wouldnt dare to steal a paper clip. So the Lord has started His work and He will finish it because i truly accepted Him.
@@raygabrelcik2578 Good point, Ray and the conjunction IF shows that we have the choice of continuing or discontinuing in a committed relationship with Him. In the same way, even though I am committed to my wife in the bonds of matrimonial covenant I, nevertheless, I must choose to continue in that relationship. Our relationship is not unconditional. I can choose to break it at any time by committing adultery. If I were to pursue that course of action I would not be able to remain in my marriage covenant with her. It seems that some people in "hypergrace" antinomianism want an OPEN marriage with Jesus as if God had changed His mind about allowing us to have "other gods before Him"
“Once Saved always Saved?” “Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way... They tell us, that somehow.... No virgin’s lamp can go out...(Matthew 25:8) No promising harvest can be choked with thorns...(Matthew 13:7) No branch in Christ can ever be cut off for unfruitfulness...(John 15:6) No pardon can ever be forfeited... (Matthew 18:32) They say that no name can be blotted out of God’s book! (Revelation 3:5; Exodus 32:33) They insist that no salt can ever lose its savour... (Matthew 5:13) That nobody can ever... “receive the grace of God in vain”... (2 Corinthians 6:1) “bury his talents”...(Matthew 25:18) “neglect such great salvation”... (Hebrews 2:3) trifle away “a day of grace”... (James 5:5) “look back” after putting his hand to the gospel plow... (Luke 9:62) Nobody can “grieve the Spirit” till He is “quenched,”... (Ephesians 4:30; 1 Thessalonians 5:19) and strives no more, (Romans 11:21,22) nor “deny the Lord that bought them”... (2 Peter 2:1) nor “bring upon themselves swift destruction.”.. (2 Peter 2:1) Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth... (Revelation 3:16) They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found. (John 17:12) that if one falls, he never stood. (Romans 11:16-22 and Hebrews 6:4-6) if one was ever “cast forth,” he was never in, and “if one ever withered,” he was never attached to the vine and once green. (John 15:1-6) and that “if any man draws back,” it proves that he never had anything to draw back from. (Hebrews 10:38,39) that if one ever “falls away into spiritual darkness,” he was never enlightened. (Hebrews 6:4-6) that if you “again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,” it shows that you never escaped. (2 Peter 2:20) that if you “put salvation away” you never had it to put away, (Hebrews 10:35; Psalms 51:11) and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! (1 Timothy 1:19) In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it. May God SAVE US... from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!” ~ John Wesley
Can you lose YOUR Salvation? Not everyone else? Stop pointing the finger at everyone else? Can you ?!! Its ok I know the answer ...it's funny that when it's you , you can't because your a super Christian..and YOU BETTER be perfect ...have u ever lusted of a woman in your heart? Have u ever said to your brother Raca? I know the answer ...by your own doctrine You Are lost !!!! Stop beating God's sheep you white washed tomb... Edify the body...u are accomplishing nothing Titus 1:10 your an idle talker and your mouth must be stopped!!!!! Look at yourself worry about yourself ...get right with God before you come and babble nonsense and don't know the heart of the Father...You act like His mercy endures for the moment...take this rebuke seriously....metanaeo- change your mind,repent..Your cruel and your hurting people and you don't know
@@luketrim2710 Good point Luke! Easy answer - FEAR - a healthy Godly fear, as Rom. 11:20-22 says.... they [the Jews] were broken off for their unbelief, but you [saints who were saved] stand by your faith. [be faithful!] Do not be conceited, but FEAR; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise YOU also will be cut off -- Perfect NO! Forgiven YES and walking in the LIGHT! :)
Numbers 22:19-22 psalm 22:6 psalm 32:1 Leviticus 16:34 psalm 35:9 psalm 37:23-24 psalm 136 isaiah 45:22-25 44:17 26:12 53 whole chapter 54:9 John 1:12 , 3:16-18, 3:36, 5:24, 6:27,6:33,6:37, 6:39,6:44,6:57,8:12,8:52,10:5,10:9,10:14,10:28,14:19-20,16:27,17:24,20:31,Acts 10:43, Romans 3:24,5:1,5:17,6:23,8:1,10:8-13,Ephesians 1:3-6,2:8-9,2:14,colossians 1:14 Romans 5:1 is in Greek perfect tense have access by faith and we stand ...perfect tense what's that mean? Oh glad u asked one time act never to be repeated with on going results into the future same with Jesus saying " it is finished " perfect tense haha go study your Greek boys ..and oh btw I left so many scriptures out if you can find more scriptures about losing your salvation come at me...MIC DROP ...HOLD MY BIBLE MOMENT
One can lose joy for a while Even Elijah fell into despair God revived him Elect vessels can't lose their Salvation otherwise god wouldn't Have what he paid for Ransomed with the precious blood Of jesus
Chris Raynor Yes! But you are bought with a price. You can’t buy yourself back. You are God’s own, forever. He justifies the ungodly and counts their faith in Him as righteousness! Erick please don’t be discouraged!! NOTHING CAN EVER take you away from the Love of God found in the Man Christ Jesus. There’s isn’t a post salvation checklist. Or else how did millions and millions of people who just heard the word and accepted Jesus and then went off about their lives get to heaven? They couldn’t read scripture and Christian communities were hard to find at times. So were they saved? Yes. They were reborn at that INSTANT and began a walk with God. You can’t be re-unborn. You are a new creature in Christ Jesus. Every other verse they pull out is speaking in another context. Take it from Jesus Himself, whosoever believes in Him SHALL NOT perish but have everlasting life. I’ll take Jesus word over a out of context quote from Paul any day.
Lstknt yes but Jesus himself said numerous times to the people "go on and sin no more" note that he did not say "go on and live life as you please" .. Go on and sin no more came from Jesus himself not Paul.
Lstknt no he did not died in vain. We believe and accept Jesus but there's gotta be repentance in our lives. We come to Christ as we are but we don't stay as we are. We are not perfect but we gotta try to live a holy life, Jesus knows that we are not going be as pure as he is but he will see that you are trying to live a holy life. People who believe in the OSAS doctrine are just kidding themselves. Would you tell me that a homosexual who believed in his heart yet continue his Sodom n Gomorrah lifestyle inherit the kingdom of heaven? Or what about that man who accepted Jesus in his heart yet he continues to abuse and hit his wife and kids at home, will he go to heaven? Or what about the man who continuously cheats on his wife? Will he go to heaven just because he at the moment believes in Jesus? People only chooses to see one part of the word of God but discards the parts they don't like. We cannot pick and choose. Christianity is not to discourage anyone. If you love Jesus you will take up your cross and follow him. Period. We don't feel obligated to change our lives for him. He transforms us from the inside out. The things that we loved more than God in this world no longer we desired. OSAS was invented by people who desired the things of this Earth more than Jesus so this doctrine gave them a way to be free of doing whatever they wanted. A freedom ticket to their fleshly pleasures. If you don't believe this then try opening your heart to the possibility that it might be true, do a one day or three day fasting for God to show you this.he will if you desire to know with all your heart. I say this to you in love. If you need help in prayer, I'm here too. God doesn't want anybody to be confused and no one should be willing to bet their eternal life on the beliefs they have right now. Trust me brothers and sisters, even when I thought I was right I still needed confirmation that I was believing the truth and that I was living in it so I seek God for myself with a true desired to know and he was so wonderful and merciful that he showed me. Seek and you will find, ask and he will give you the answer. God bless you.
Radiantly Rebe I respectfully disagree, however I don’t doubt your salvation. Honestly I find that people who find themselves desiring God out of nowhere while watching TH-cam... who out of nowhere get verses stuck in their heads and follow up on it...who in their hearts seek God during times of trouble and also with likewise joy thank Him during the good... who are concerned about their salvation but yet are nicean in their belief and want to please God... those people are saved. Sin is sin and Christ’s end of the deal was to save us from past present and future sins. Satan wants us to doubt our salvation and even without satan doubt is part of faith. Otherwise it’s knowledge. I just wanted to offer encouragement to those who still struggle yet believe in the Jesus of the Bible. Even if their faith is as tiny as a mustard seed.
@Jerry Collins you have no idea what game you are playing. Too much is going on in the world to turn a blind eye to the truth. The bible is the truth, jesus christ is God made flesh and he conquered death. So that all who believe on him should not perish but have everlasting life. Everyone will be granted everlasting life when the second coming happens every knee shall bow tongue confess jesus christ is lord. That is everyone who isn't already in heaven because the ones in heaven have already believed without seeing. One of the lies Satan has been spewing is that God will not torment his creation. Jesus already said he takes no pleasure in the sinners death but it is neccessary. God's righteousness will endure for eternity.
If a person is saved when they say the sinners prayer or make an altar call but then fall away we're told they weren't really saved". So the greater question that needs to be answered is, "What does it mean to be saved ".
1John1:7 The blood of Jesus Christ his son cleanseth us from (ALL)sin. All means All or Gods a lier! PAST,PRESENT,and FUTURE,Believe Gods Word.once Saved always Saved,you cannot unsave yourself!
Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; Doesn't sound so sure.
(1) Salvation (saves from hell) jesus did for us in the cross (2)salvation (work to overcome this world because we are the child of God.) This doesn’t have to do with losing your salvation just save yourself from sin because we still live in the world
1. Jesus died for us on the cross and took the payed the price for the entire world's sins. It doesn't mean we can't separate ourselves from him. He is the vine, we are the branches. Why would Paul train his evil tendencies so as to "NOT BE DISQUALIFIED" Doesn't sound like salvation is assured. It sounds like we have to do something, repent and not commit what are referred to as deadly sins and turning away before we die.
I believe when Paul said that, he was referring to his rewards. And B Boe is right, you have positional salvation, potential/experiential salvation, and then your perfect salvation. When you believe you get your position in Christ, so you are saved from the PENALTY OF SIN. Then from the point of belief until death, as a Christian you have to try and repent from sin, to go down the correct path, which is the Experiential Salvation where you are saved from THE POWER OF SIN (unless you don't follow the ways that have been set out). But you don't do this to earn the positional salvation which you got when you believed, you do it firstly to live a life as close to one that God/Christ want for us, and also, for your rewards in heaven, I don't know if you know a lot of the rewards after the rapture, but look them up if you don't. Would Paul want to miss out on receiving the crowns which we can get based on the works we do? Or when our works get tested (1 Cor 3:13) Would Paul want to see his works get burnt up? No he would want to see his works stand through the fire. So then you come to your Perceptional Salvation, now you are saved from THE PRESENCE OF SIN eternally. You get your rewards/position of rule in the Millennial Kingdom. You get your perfect fellowship with the Trinitiy. You get your complete understanding of Jesus Christ, who and what he is. And a whole lot more. To say that we have to keep our works on track to be saved is completely against the gospel message, we trust that our Lord lived his perfect life, that he truly was God on Earth, that he died on the cross, that he was resurrected, that his sacrifice was more than enough to clear our payments for sin, and that when we believe in him, he promises to take us on the rapture, no matter what we do, because you can't go backwards from your position in Christ. Our positional salvation is a beautiful gracious free gift, that we can do nothing to deserve, and nowhere in the books of the bible for today, does it say that our loving Father will remove us from the body once we are in it.
For all of you that believe you can lose your salvation how do you explain JOHN 14:16. PART OF THE CONVERSION EXPERIENCE IS THAT YOU GET THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HE IS WITH YOU "FOREVER " until we see Jesus 👍
How can you abandon Salvation? God gives it freely to believers. Eternal Life can never end! If someone walks away then they were not truly Saved in the first place.
There is no litmus test for salvation except believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. JESUS didn't say believe then if you manifest theses 5 things then I will for sure know you meant it.
Exactly, so many people on here are believing in a Faith + Works salvation, if they trust in that they may have a surprise coming one day. Matthew 7:21-23 'but Lord didn't we do all these things in your name?' If you believe that it is your faith plus anything then you are deceived by satan.
John 15:10 If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love If we do not keep His commands we cannot REMAIN in His Love.
JimiSurvivor agreed. But we are still saved from the eternal consequence of sin. Our life may be cut short, of God may hand us over to satan for him to do what he wants with us. But our eternal salvation is still there.
THEMNMGAMER I have not read a scripture that tells believers if they fall into a perpetual life-habit of sin (and do not repent) or if they commit apostasy and deny Christ then their lives will merely be shortened. The NT does say some people's lives were shortened because of their abuse of the Lord's supper. The scripture you cited says this: 5 hand this man [who was an immoral believer] over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, SO THAT his spirit MIGHT BE SAVED on the day of the Lord (1 Corinthians 5:5). The question that comes to my mind in reading this verse is how Paul does not use the many simpler, clearer ways of saying they were praying for this man's DEATH or that Satan would KILL him. Instead, he uses the term "destruction of his flesh." The Greek word Paul uses, ("olethron") does not necessarily mean physical death. In fact, Thayer's Greek Lexicon says it means: "for the destruction of the flesh, said of the EXTERNAL ILLS and TROUBLES by which the LUSTS of the flesh are subdued and destroyed." An example of "handing someone to Satan" can be found in the life of Job. In his case, GOD Himself handed Job over to Satan. What happened was that destruction of all kinds rained upon him including physical illness. The desired result of this was apparently defeating Satan and gaining a testimony for posterity. Had Job "cursed God and died," as his wife suggested, Job would not have persevered and there would not have been a redemptive outcome for him. Next, in 1 Co. 5:5 the word translated "SO THAT" indicates that Paul had a specific purpose in mind. This aim was that the man MIGHT be saved in the Day of Judgment. The Greek verb for SAVED (sōthē) is conjugated in the SUBJUNCTIVE MOOD indicating a consequence that HAS NOT HAPPENED but has only the POTENTIAL of happening. In other words, Paul hopes that the methods employed (i.e., delivering him to Satan) will yield that result but it was by no means certain. After all, the man had a free will and may not respond to the treatment. Sometimes under duress, a person's heart can become even MORE hardened. There is still another point to be made in 1 Corinthians 5:5. If this man (who had apparently begun as a true believer) had been saved UNCONDITIONALLY, regardless of how he lived, then handing him over to Satan would have no effect on his "spirit being saved" in the Day of Judgment. Remember, Paul's purpose was not to protect the reputation of the Church but to affect the salvation of this man on the Last Day. How can a person's PHYSICAL DEATH accomplish this unless the trial brings about repentance and restoration? This whole scenario is inconsistent with the doctrine of OSAS which holds that since the man was already saved he would always be. Some go as far as to say that from the moment a person believes in Christ all his sins, past, present and FUTURE are forgiven. From then on, ALL his sins are "cast into the sea of forgetfulness" so that when God looks upon the person He sees only the (imputed) "righteousness of God." How could God possibly inspire Paul to point out this man's sin when, as far as God is concerned, his sin no longer existed? Would that not make them guilty of "judging?" The Corinthian Church apparently believed that grace covered them even while they were abiding in the sin of incest. No one argued that man was a pretending believer and needed to be saved. Everyone, including Paul, assumed that he was a true believer who had nevertheless fallen into a lifestyle of sin. Most of the Corinthians overlooked it because they thought all believers live eternally in God's favor (His grace) and, apparently, unconditionally. Paul did not have that view.
Yes Romans 10:9-11. I’m a Catholic and this a great summary and if you come up on somebody with 3 mins to live. For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and BELIEVE in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved. For one BELIEVES with the heart and so is justified and one confesses with his mouth and so is saved. For scripture says “No one who BELIEVES in him will be put to shame.” What does BELIEVES mean it’s a very loaded word. It’s different if you have 3 mins to live to 3 days to 3 months to 3 years and 3 decades to live. You MUST BELIEVE in Christ and keep his commandments and teachings. Gods love and grace to you all. Never forget Romans 10:9-11 all believers in Christ should know it. Just always be able to give a account for BELIEVING!!
Thank you and God Bless you. I’m still in the Catholic Church because after much research I believe that it’s the most scriptural church most Orthodox Church and the one church Jesus Christ established even with all its faults with man the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. Love!
Get behind me satan. That's what we need to say before clicking on these type of videos. Satan wants us to doubt our salvation. From the snare of the Fowler he delivers us. God engraved our names on the palm of his hand. Jesus broke down the gates of Hell for us. God is with us rejoice Child of God.
@@jeffouellette9946 You CANNOT lose your salvation. Jesus cannot deny himself. Besides scripture tells us that no man can be plucked ( John 10:27-29) from the father's hand, and that once a person believes and trusts in Christ ( Ephesians 1:13,14) they are sealed by the Holy Ghost,.....and how long? Until the day of redemption! (Ephesians 4:30) Keep scripture in context reading scripture for scripture and keep it as your final authority and you'll do well. And if you keep saying that a person who believe and trusts Christ can lose salvation, then you are going against these scriptures I gave you and calling God a liar....
@@kathyhenderson2114 Amen sis! Greetings from Sweden. Hope you got a great church to got to. If you don't go soulwinning and would like to, then hook me up. You should look for a independent fundamental baptist soulwinning group. Best regards and God bless
Maybe the question is were you ever saved? I accepted Jesus along time ago but I lived in sin for years thinking I could live however I wanted but now I can say I was never saved because there was no change in my life
If you exept Jesus and believe in Him you are saved. He will always finish what He has started. So if you exepted Him once but kept living in sin, but don't anymore, He is finishing what He has started yes?
Frank Crawford Sir are you aware that God gave all humanity the ability to make a decision/power of choice? he doesn’t force you to do any thing.when you carefully read John 3:16 that “whosoever believe in him” is on the basis of decision, acceptance. Question Were the Children of Israel saved when they were delivered from Egypt? In the wilderness those 40 years did some lose their Salvation?
Frank Crawford While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me. Not one of THEM has been lost, except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled (John 17:12) When Jesus said "THEM" what group of people was He referring to of which Judas Iscariot had been a member? Was He saying He kept absolutely everyone who had ever believed in Him? This could not be true as Judas himself was the exception. Perhaps when He referred to "those the Father had given Him" He meant only the disciples who, as it happened, were with Him at the time.
“If you confess with your mouth ‘Jesus is Lord’ and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead you will be saved. For it is with your mouth that you confess and are justified, and with your heart you believe and are saved.” -Romans 10:9,10. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
That is 100% true on how to be saved, but the question is can a person lose their salvation. The answer is yes, they can. Rev; 22:19 I think, speaks of God removing people’s name from the book of life, if they take from the words of the prophecy of the Bible. There are also other references of God blotting out peoples names from the book of life.
Don Lee Some people believe that once they get saved, then they can live any way they want. Many people are in hell now because of this lie. The point is he never addressed the issue of Christians losing their salvation. No one can fool God about their salvation., so if their name was in the book of life to start with, they were saved, no doubt, and God is not going to remove someone’s name from the book by mistake. He danced around the question like most preachers today. Telling people what they want to hear..
@@bobbybowers356 Its so sad that people like you go around telling things like.... people will believe that once they get saved that they can live any way they want. We all will....why cause we still have this flesh and NO GOOD thing comes from it! You still lie....and you know it. let me tell you something.....the problem with that is that some will, but what's most important is that it says in the bible in 1st Corinthians I believe, that old things have passed away and behold all things become new. In other words a changed person via Jesus Christ taking out the old heart and putting in a new one called an operation made without hands. Col. 2:11 Jesus transforms the person....and if they do things wrong it's because they are in this flesh, no man on this earth is perfect, only Jesus was perfect. And therefore if Jesus be in a believers heart then they are saved until the day of redemption Ephesians 4:30. Also Jesus being in a saved person...Jesus cannot deny himself and also keeps that person saved until the day of him! Philippians 1:6 6 Being confident of this very thing, he that which hath begun a good work in you WILL perform it until the day of Jesus Christ. A person who believes and trusts on Christ....what part of you thinking they will go around living anyway they want if Jesus is in their heart? Only God knows mans hearts. In the book of James many take those scriptures and say see,....their faith without works is dead. Well all that means (cause it's talking to saved people) is that they are not performing "good works" for others....and therefore that faith is dead, not for salvation. See....the book of James is for the eyes of men, but not for God, cause in order for men to see if they think someone is saved is by what they do, but for God...He knows each and every persons heart. So with Jesus being in a persons heart....I'm positive that they hate sin, just as God does. Jesus cannot deny himself, He remains faithful and you cannot take away scripture in Romans 10:9-11...cause it's truth!
Kathy Henderson you must be one of those people like me, because you agreed to what I said. You stated we all will. In the Bible it speaks of people having their name taken out of the book of life. And these people would not have their name in the book to start with unless they were actually saved. Unless they fooled God, or He put their name in the book by mistake. And we know that won’t happen. So then we know if anyone had their name in the book of life they were saved. And God would not remove someone’s name from the book if they were still saved. So that shows people can loose their salvation.
Ephesians 1:13 Ephesians 4:30 Hebrews 13:5 John 6:37 John 6:39 John 6:47 John 5:24 If you have ever trusted Jesus as your savior, you are saved forever. If our salvation depended on how we live we would be our own savior. Our salvation depends on what Jesus did for us plus nothing. Many are going to stand before the Lord and tell Him about all their good works. Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus tells them depart from me I never knew you. Why? They never trusted Jesus alone plus nothing to be saved and never received the free gift of the Holy Spirit. Jesus knows His own by His Spirit in them. Most are trusting in what they do and have never trusted Jesus alone We have to many false teachers telling people if they live without sin and do good works it is a sign they are saved. Those of us that know we are saved know it is only because of Jesus finished work on the cross plus nothing from us. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. Romans 11:6 and Romans 4:5 Many have never trusted Jesus and are trusting in what they do to be saved. We can only be justified by faith, not by works. Those that are trusting in their works, are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus plus nothing are saved and have eternal life. John 3:36 Those that are trusting in what they do are under the wrath of God. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye have eternal life. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck the out of my hand. OSAS
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, (what Jesus did for us) through faith, (when we believe the gospel, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God, not of works, (what we do or do not do) lest any man should boast. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD. The only thing you have to do to be saved is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as the only way to be saved. He is the narrow way because their is no other way. If there was any other way to be saved than what He did for us, then Jesus died in vain. For God so loved the world, (everybody) that He gave His only begotten Son, (Jesus) that WHOSOEVER, (anybody) that believeth in Him, WILL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. No one can save themselves. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and ALL that cometh to me I WILL IN NO WISE CAST OUT. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one.
jim kraft hebrews 6:4 and the book of Jude disproves your opinonated false doctrine Jude 1:1.... to the sanctified... aka cristians Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 1:1-4 KJV
Hebrews 6:4 agrees with Ephesians 1:13 That when we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at the time we believe, it is impossible to fall away because Christ was once crucified once and for all for all sin. First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. Salvation is a free gift of God to everyone that believes that Jesus paid our sin debt in full. John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and all that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word and believeth on Him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into judgement, but is passed from death unto life. Contending for the faith is contending that what Jesus said is true. It says that those who have trusted Jesus for salvation hath eternal life. If we have eternal life, how long is it? Eternal is forever. It is not temporary or probationary ,but eternal life. Jesus said, John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. . Ephesian 4:30 And grieve not the Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption Every one that has the Holy Spirit in them belong to Him who saved us by grace. We are the children of God. John 1:12 But as many as received Him to them gave He power to become the Children of God, even to them that believe on His name. Romans 8:9 Those without the Holy Spirit in them are not saved. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the lord, how he said, John indeed baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, (everybody) that He gave His only begotten Son, (Jesus ) that WHOSOEVER (anybody,) that believeth in Him, will not perish, but have everlasting life. Everlasting is everlasting. That means forever to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16 To contend for the faith is to believe what Jesus said.
jim kraft Totally agree with OSAS. HEB 6:1 Therefore. What is the context of Therefore? It is HEB chapters 1-5, showing Jesus is better than the law, scriptures, aka OT. HEB 6:1-3, is refers to believers, while 4-6 refers to unconverted hearers or persons who heard, experienced the word, saw miracles, but walked away. The rest falls in place. Salvation. is an event like graduation or a championship. No one ever take those away from me. How much better is my salvation?! Now, sanctification is a process that ends in justification when Jesus comes the second time. I am saved from the penalty of sin bc of Christ. I am being saved from the power of sin bc of Christ. I will be saved in the end from the presence of sin bc of Christ bc I will be in heaven with Him. You can certainly ruin your testimony and witness to Christ useless living, but you cannot lose your salvation. Otherwise, the Son wasted his time coming to earth, performing miracles, living a perfect life, dying on the cross, staying in the grave for 3 days, rising up, as he promised, and was seen by over 500 witnesses, according to the gospel, written by the chief sinner, the Apostle Paul. He who began the work in me, will finish the work in me. As Paul asked the Galatians, "Who bewitched you, those who are anti-OSAS?"
YOU CANNOT LOSE WHAT YOU DID NOT HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF SOMEONE IS TRULY SAVED, FOLLOWS AND OBEY GOD'S COMMANDS, THEY WILL NOT LOSE THEIR SALVATION.
@@holzmann- Thank you for your question. When you think about it, you have to ask yourself. "why would anyone not try to obey God's word if, they are truly regenerated, changed, and are living in Christ? In my own experience, I cannot imagine not wanting to obey His word. I am not talking about perfection. I am talking about being convicted by the Holy Spirit when we do make mistakes. Not everyone who professes to be is truly saved. We are saved by God's grace, however, we have to come to complete repentance and follow God's Word. So, not obeying God's word, is evidence that someone is not truly born again of the Spirit of God. If we are not born again, we do not have salvation.
@@holzmann- Did you always obey your parents growng up? Did they cast you in hell or correct you. They must of loved you & corrected you seeing you posted here.
"If you are comfortable in sin, then your not a child of God", that hit hard!!
Agreed
Once I got saved, even the next day, things I didn't even know were sin, grieved me & convicted me, like smoking pot, I thought would be "ok" but not even thinking it was sin, it wasn't the same, I didn't cry over polluting the air going over pot smoking friends house to share Jesus, Found out later when I received Jesus, the Holy Spirit comes into your being & teaches you, grieves when you sin & convicts you, I didn't read that 1st, so something happened, yeah, I was born again though I had doubts the day before when I received Jesus, continuing in sin is difficult to do, against my new nature in Christ.
God bless you!
Well said. We all have certain sins that we struggle with individually, and they may be various things for different people. God knows this, and works to clean us up over time. It's a process we all go through.
Amen pastor greg
Viking Knight don't listen to this ignorant preacher in this video. You can't quench the Holy Spirit that's not found in the Bible. The reason Jesus died for your sins is because he knew you would have the problems you just described. He died for all sins all time do that those who were born in to sin like us can have our sin debt paid for and our souls made righteous before God. When you receive Christ your made righteous and receive the Holy Spirit as a witness to convict you that you are righteous because God knows you can't keep the law of the old testament Jesus kept that law and through him you are credited as being righteous although you yourself have not kept the law. That's the definition of Grace. That's why righteousness is described as a gift and not a reward. Salvation is also described as a gift. That is why Jesus was able to die on the cross even though he never sinned (wages of sin is death) you will inherit the kingdom of God and enter into heaven (only the righteous can enter heaven) even though you your self are not righteous (because you were descended from Adam ie born into sin) Jesus taking your sin allows you to enter. Have you accepted Christ as your savior? If the answer is yes then you are already forgiven for your sins. Nothing you did in your sin both willfully or unwillfully has taken God by surprise buddy. He saw your life 2018 years ago and went to the cross for YOU! READ 1John 2:12. ROMANS 5:12-21 Psalms 139:16
Do you think smoking pot to help pain, chronic pain is a sin?
Ephesians 4:30, ONCE YOU RECEIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT YOU ARE SEALED UNTIL THE DAY OF REDEMPTION! It’s the most Biblical thing to have assurance of salvation. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ ❤️
Exactly
Amen PTL!
Hallelujah!
If I am sealed until the day of redemption, can I stop believing in God and still go to heaven?
@MANY ON MISSION That is not what the verse says or means.
I SMOKED CRACK 10 YEARS,AN BACK SLID, AN WAS SHOT ,RAN OVER BY A CAR, IN A COMA , AN GOD HAD HIS HAND ON MY LIFE , AN NOW I'M SAVED AN LIVING THE WORD , WE HAVE TO LIVE THE WHOLE WORD
Awesome how God saves !!!
But when you back slid you weren't living for God. See you just admitted it. Backslidden is just another word for apostate. That's why you take it to God to fix your problems.
@Jerry Collins you better repent from the things that you said that you'll be in the Lake of Fire someday.
JACQUES HUISWOOD. people take things out of context. Ifthey take Gods word out of context, they also will take ours out to.When God is speaking about back slidden, he is speaking of the BACK SLIDDEN IN HEART( the UNBELIEVER. Keep your eyes on Jesus.I would like to share some more with you. Out here on YT., it's the TWIGHLITE ZONE
@Jerry Collins What bible do you read?
Because I turned my back on God waaay back and demons began to take over my mind ! I got so terrified I ran back to God and he delivered me!!!! My whole body shook as the demons had to let Go!!! Jesus spoke to me too! In front of the whole church !! He took me back and ill never ever leave Jesus!!! Love you Lord !! That was many years ago but it was like yesterday to me!! I am so grateful to you Lord Jesus!!
Praise God you came back to GOD!!!,
Once we are saved will have to battle to stay saved, the evil one isn't going to give up he will tempt us daily
@@rsar61 No we won't. Once saved always saved
@@estebanblanco2001 it's not bibical it's called the Hyper Grace movement.
I know many people who say they are saved. Accepted Christ tasted the fruits of the gospel. Yet live in on going horrible sin.
Jesus will tell them I never knew you.
@@emilywalton4105 No. Once saved always saved is biblical.
If you could stop being saved by sinning, then no one would stay saved for even a day.
That's not how it is.
You get saved by trusting only on the works of The Lord Jesus, and on no one else's works,(including your own). And that salvation is eternal.
@@estebanblanco2001 if you are truly saved and leave Jesus he will leave the other 99 and go after the one that is lost. However, if you live in rebellion and sin even though at one point you came to the Lord then your repentance was not sincere and if you continue to disobey the Holy Spirit you will die in your sins. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.
I was at your event five years ago in Anaheim, the So Cal Festival on August 17. I proclaimed Jesus as my Lord and Savior there. It changed my life at that point in time. Thank you.
“Christians don’t work for their salvation. They work from it” I love it.
'While I was with them in the world I kept them in your name ... of those you gave me, none of them is lost except the son of perdition'. There is nothing you can do to save yourself or to stay saved. He is the one holding on to you, not you to Him.
er....abide, in me.....er....endure.......and some others....
@@philipbuckley759 Those verses don't exist in their Bibles :/
When you love Jesus, sin ultimately discust you, so repent straight away!!!!! I was happy in my sin, now i am discusted at wronging GOD.
God bless you richly,Tessa....
Some love Jesus and are disgusted by sin or the very thought of sin....for a few weeks or months....then temptations come back and soon sin doesn't seem all that disgusting after alll....
Many begin the journey but do not finish it. That is what the parable of the seed on bad ground is all about (Matthew 13:3-23). That's why once-saved-always-saved is bad doctrine.
While that is admirable, the warnings in scripture would not be there unless there was a chance we reject Christ.
When you say "I" am disgusted, what do you mean by 'I"???
This is true if we do not continue to sin and harden out hearts against the Holy Spirit.
7 Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, 8 Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, In the day of trial in the wilderness, 9 Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years. 10 Therefore I was angry with that generation, And said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, And they have not known My ways.’ 11 So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
12 Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF in DEPARTING FROM the living GOD;
(Hebrews 3:7-12)
Jesus Christ is Lord and savior. Amen
Amen.. Hebrews 12:2 also the author and finisher of our faith ♥👍
Amen! God Jesus bless you!
Sorry to tell you the truth, you will be upset.
Jesus is not yet Lord.
None are yet saved.
Jesus SHALL be Lord
You must endure, and you shall be saved. Matthew 24:13
@@eltonron1558 Oh you're wrong. Jesus Christ Is Savior & He's already conquered death & the grave! Romans 10:9 Holy Bible
@@julesservantofjesus972 So you are an immortal spirit? The word,
"shall", means shall, as sometime in the future. So forgive me that thou be wrongeth. For in that day thou shalt need to confess again.
You are one of the best online pastors I have listened to! I made my decision a year ago at a camp. I had so much enthusiasm to spread the Word, that I got and stage and gave a speech. And I'm an introvert. When I got home, I felt lost since the "Holy Spirit" effect wore off. However, I got back from this and am in a better place than before. I am no longer suicidal, for I know I would go to Hell. 3 months later however, my youth pastor was fired or laid off, I do not know. I felt so betrayed. However, I found it was God's plan to move him to a different church. I do feel guilty and disappointed when I do sin. I know God is real and that Christ is my savior, and I hope he uses me to spread his word even though I am a introvert with close to no friends. In conclusion, praise God.
Also, I plan on being baptized soon. I think this is the right move!
CometReindeer I’m so glad that you made that decision!! I too have gone to camp and felt that “camp high” where you feel so on fire for the Holy Spirit and then after it wears off. But the Holy Spirit does not just work at camp! Hahah! We have to take the time to dive into God’s presence frequently and it will help us feel driven and remain on fire for God!
Yep, I find healing can wear off too!
When a person honors the Lord and the Lord's word its a good beginning, only the Lord can see into a man, women's, and child's heart. Being a christian is a constant work in progress. If one is not changing in the Lord, one is not maturing in the Lord.
Hi Mary, Salvation is no work of ours at all. Jesus did all the work for us, and when we trust in Him, we perfectly fulfill all the requirements God has for us. When they asked Jesus what they needed to do to be saved, He said: Believe, and live the rest of your life for me. None of your good works save you, and they do not give you a better standing with God or cause Him to love you any more than He has loved you, even before He created all that exists. Enjoy your new life in Jesus, you are free now to live a righteous life and find peace in what Jesus has done for you. Tell everyone what Jesus has done for you!
@@robertcliftonrobinson4183 Why do I find something artificial about your comment. Yes, Jesus paid the price for me but obviously faith does not end there. It says in 1 John 1:7
"But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin"
Praise God for sending Jesus but we must walk in the Light as He is in the Light else we will be in darkness and the Blood of His will not have effect upon us.
Walking with God is part of Salvation. There is no Salvation if you are living an unrighteous life. That person has lost his or her salvation and needs to confess their sins to God and return to Him
(unless of course you believe we don't have free will and God will do everything for us, to which, if that is your case, i say to you that is anti biblical. Jesus even warn He would remove anyone's name from the Book of Life if they take away from the words of the prophecy of Revelation)
@@joeydaniel3053 what you assert is salvation by works, not faith. There is nothing that must be added to Jesus' death for our sins. The text you cited in 1 John is describing fellowship with God that is interrupted by unconfessed sin, not the loss of salvation when we sin.
At the moment anyone sincerely turns from their sins and determines to trust in Jesus for their salvation, all of their sins; past, present, and future, are forgiven. This is why we are securely saved, forever.
"Walking in the light," in Koine-Greek, is descriptive of perpetual fellowship with Christ. When we sin after our salvation, a break in our fellowship with God occurs, but not our salvation.
If what you assert was true, no one would ever make it to heaven. Thankfully our salvation does not depend on our ability or righteousness, but on Jesus perfect sacrifice for ALL our sins, making us perfect before God, fully ready for heaven.
Rejoice in what Jesus has done; rest in your salvation: "it is finished!"
This is the true gospel. It’s hard to merit but it's the truth. Jesus never said it was too easy to enter life. It’s only human doctrine that turn things to seem so easy as they want them to be. Jesus taught narrow gate, plucking eyes, cutting off sinning hands, unworthy believers, hypocrites etc. So it’s now our choice. Shaka from Uganda
The Bible teaches us to put on the helmet of salvation because satan will try and make you doubt if you are really saved. This deception of satan is meant to make us live in fear, guilt and doubt in the victory we have in the sacrifice of Jesus' death and resurrection.
If you could lose your salvation then you would have to earn it back but we are not free of sin based on good deeds but SOLELY on the belief in a person's heart on the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for the payment of sin. It's His grace that saves and not by any works we do.
George M 《BELIEVE ME WHEN I PROCLAIM ALOUD FROM THE ROOFTOPS "I AM SAVED¡
Amen brother people are being misled thinking they can loose salvation..
the bible says nothing of the sort. jesus is dead, satan lives because he is the foundation off the future and what you may call progress
George M what your saying doesn't in anyway prove you are osas. Got that .
+jeff ouellette - so what is your point Jeff if I'm incorrect? Please tell us if a believer can lose their salvation.
I don’t go to Church anymore ,but I still believe in Jesus! Faith and religion are totally different things! You cannot work your way to Heaven! Only by faith in Jesus Christ.
what is the church ? And I'm asking you this with integrity.
Faith without works is dead.
Paul Grimm don't blame you for not going to bricks and mortar temple of works
Yes moonbase , maybe the physical Church is not the most essential thing for a christian to go to but , the church as in the body of christ , or in otherwords Fellowship as a Christian is so important.
The tabernacle is with people . Correct.
We are directed to be together with faithful Christians that live in truth.
Such clever works based salvation teaching-backloading it into the gospel. Now he is explaining what a believer should be doing to prove-or JUSTIFY their salvation other than faith alone in the finished work. There will be seasons in your life of behavior. The proof of salvation is exactly what the works says-believe on the Lord Jesus
Once TRULY saved, always saved. However, we don't look to our feelings or endeavours as our ground of assurance but Christ's perfect work on our behalf and the sure promise of His Word. Anything else is sinking sand.
Untrue. You have made an illogical leap.
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Don't get what you mean? What did I say that was illogical' We are saved by trusting in Christ's work for us and assured by His Word to us. Standing on the promises of God by faith alone, His Spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are His and His forever. It is this that spurs us on to serve Him out of gratitude, the fruit and not the root of our eternal salvation. To deny the eternal security of the believer, a term I prefer to OSAS, turns salvation into probation.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 God''s promises are received by a true faith, not simple belief. The problem is most don't understand true faith. The Israelites leaving Egypt found that out the hard way. While i agree your scriptural claim that the Holy Spirit leads us to serve Him and others, we retain the free will God granted us, otherwise there would be no need for the many, many warnings in scripture. If we believe we can use the free will God grants us to intentionally grieve and quench the Holy Spirit yet still believe we will receive the promises of God, we are mistaken. Again, we receive the promises of God through a true faith.
@@thevoiceofonecallingout
True faith is relying on what God has promised in His Word, He is able to perform and will perform personally for you. This applies to salvation and simple belief on what Christ has done on your behalf as opposed to anything you can do is indeed true saving faith that accounts the sinner righteous before the Father. Yes, there are warnings as to how we walk after receiving Christ as Saviour but they pertain to loss of enjoyment and being all that God intends us to be in this life, not to mention loss of rewards at the Bema seat. There will be those whose works when tried will be as wood, hay and stubble but will still be 'saved, yet as by fire'. The true child of God may also be severely chastened for persistent, wilful and serious sin and maybe 'handed over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh'.If this doesn't bring restoration, they may then be taken in 'the sleep unto death'. Sin comes with a price for the saved believer but not loss of salvation.
@@bloodboughtbigphilr8266 I see so what you believe the bible teaches is that the more a believer sins, the quicker God will bring them into His presence? Also Paul says in 1 Cor 5 that he was turned over that the spirit MAY be saved on the day of the Lord. This verb sozo (saved) in Greek is in the subjunctive mood meaning the possibility of being saved but not definitive. We know this man was a Christian because Paul is judging the man committing the incest and Paul tells us right after we don't judge those outside the church. The Bible tells us the Israelites did not enter into the Promised Land because of their lack of faith to obey. They were first hand witnesses to His existence and His power yet refused to obey. They wanted to claim the promises of God but on their terms which does not work. True faith always manifests itself (exception: true deathbed conversions and the like). Finally i don't think the passage you cite in 1 Cor 3 in context means what you think it does. It is referencing the building of the church on the foundation of Christ. It does not apply to works, but a man's work in building the church through the making of disciples on the foundation of Christ.
"You change your opinion because you're wrong" 👏👏👏
What if there is a proven mistranslation because there have been proven mistranslations in the Bible 😕
Allie Stokes I think he meant in general ! Also then you seek the scriptures even more in depth and compare scripture against the entirety of the Bible.
Jose Sanchez well I’m former Christian and currently agnostic so idek anymore
Allie Stokes sorry to hear that! Just remember the Bible doesn’t contradict itself. When it seems it does it’s in the translations, from what I have personally found in studying. God bless you
Jose Sanchez I just personally don’t limit my beliefs. If God is real I guess he’s real.
Thank you so very very much . I’ll just say I needed to hear this very message . Came across this video by accident . Praise be to God .
Salvation is a threefold progress !
1) Justification (through JESUS, in the past !)
2) Sanctification (through the HOLY SPIRIT, in the present !)
3) Glorification (through the FATHER, in the future !)
@Jerry Collins
do we need to reply to religious fools who talk like Demons do ?
Of course not !!
Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) A Lie From The Pit of Hell
We do not actually possess salvation until we die. Until then we have the HOPE of salvation. "For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;" Hebrews 3:14
Jesus told the DISCIPLES in John 15 that if they did not abide (Continue) in Him, they would be CUT OFF and BURNED. A branch has to be first attached to a vine before it can WITHER ON the vine. HE said those that wither on the vine and stop producing fruit will be cut off. Paul told the Roman Christians that if they did NOT continue in the faith, God would cut them OFF just as He did to Israel. It is all a matter of OUR choice to remain steadfast, persevere, abide, and endure to the end of our life.
"Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, * IF THOU CONTINUE * in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off." Romans 11:22
"And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: * IF YE CONTINUE IN THE FAITH grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel." Col 1:21-23
"But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, IF we HOLD FAST the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the END.” Heb 1:6
"For we are made partakers of Christ, IF we HOLD the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the END;" Heb 3:14....
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, IF YE CONTINUE in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;" John 8:31
"And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and LOOKING BACK, is fit for the kingdom of God. Luke 9:62
"Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul." Heb 10:38-39
We ARE saved; we are BEING saved,; we WILL be saved.
Belief in the Greek is in the Continuous PRESENT tense, which means we must KEEP believing. In the Western mind, it is a one time act which completes everything necessary for eternal life, but the Word does not support that. Scripture warns over and over that we must CONTINUE to believe, to abide, and to remain in Christ until we reach the end of our life. Our salvation will be completed at the resurrection.
"And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed." Romans 13:11
CHRISTIANS (those truly "saved to begin with") CAN:
1. Depart from the faith (1 Tim. 4:1)
2. Wander away from the faith (1 Tim. 6:10)
3. Swerve from the faith (1 Tim. 6:21)
4. Abandon their faith (1 Tim. 5:12)
5. Make shipwreck of their faith (1 Tim. 1:19)
6. Fall from grace (Gal. 5:4)
7. Desert him who called you and turn to a different gospel (Gal. 1:6)
8. Receive the grace of God in vain (2 Cor. 6:1)
9. Swerve from the truth, upsetting the faith of some (2 Tim. 2:18)
10. Drift away from the truth (Heb. 2:1)
11. Have an evil, unbelieving heart, leading us to fall away from the living God (Heb. 3:12)
12. Be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin (Heb. 3:12-14)
13. Fail to reach the promise of entering into His rest (Heb. 4:1)
14. Fall by disobedience to enter His rest (Heb. 4:11)
15. Fall away and impossible to restore unto repentance (Heb. 6:4-6)
16. Deliberately go on sinning and no longer have a sacrifice for sins (Heb. 10:26-27)
17. Shrink back (Heb. 10:38
18. Fail to obtain the grace of God (Heb. 12:15)
19. Wander from the truth (James 5:19-2
20. Forsake the right way (2 Peter 2:15)
21. Become entangled and overcome AFTER having escaped them (2 Peter 2:20-21)
22. Be carried away with the error of lawless people and lose our stability (2 peter 3:17)
23. Commit a sin leading to death (1 John 5:16)
24. Stop abiding in the teaching of Christ (2 John 1:9)
Eze 18:24 … "But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity and does according to all the abominations that a wicked man does, will he live? All his righteous deeds which he has done will not be remembered for his treachery which he has committed and his sin which he has committed; for them he will die.
God disagrees with OSAS….
Read Gal 5 and tell me if it matters WHAT YOU DO. Paul said it does.
Also read 2 Peter 2:20-21.
Let the Word of God guide you, not the opinions of people.
I recommend that you get your Bible and look up all of these verses for yourself and see if GOD is requiring US to do anything.
VERSES WHICH WARN AGAINST FALLING AWAY FROM THE FAITH REFUTING OSAS
Matt 24:9-13
Mark 13:13
Luke 8:13
John 15:6
Acts 1:25
Revelation 2:4
Revelation 3:5
Revelation 22:19
Romans 11:21-22
Hebrews 3:12-14
Hebrews 4:12
Hebrews 8:4-6
Hebrews 10:38-39
Hebrews 12:14
Col 1:21-23
1 Corinthians 9:27
1 Corinthians 10:5-13
1 Corinthians 15:1-2
1 Timothy 5:13
2 Thessalonians 2:3
2 Peter 1:10
2 Peter 2:15
1 John 1:9
Luke 9:62
@@wizdomdiscernment2.0 Wow, Sandra, it's is RARE to come across Christians who possess the understanding that you do. But you are absolutely correct. There are actually TWO aspects to our conversion; the FIRST is, we are "Legally" saved--meaning, we have only just "entered" into God's plan--but we are not "Experientially" saved yet. WE are, in essence, in the PROCESS of being saved; we are not a "finished" product yet. Of course, the OSAS will argue, "are you KIDDING, we're NOT EVEN REALLY SAVED YET?" No, that's NOT what we're saying. Yes, you now have Jesus in your life, YES, you ARE on the RIGHT path, and YES, if you "continue" in His word (John 8:31) you WILL, in fact, inherit eternal life. And God DOES know your heart. I believe in MOST cases, those who had a serious conversion WILL in fact, see the glory of heaven. But just keep in mind, God provided numerous warnings about "falling away," and "back-sliding." If it weren't possible, He would not have said it. At any rate--remain "stedfast," nobody is anywhere NEAR the perfect little soldier; we ALL have battles to face, that's why we P R A Y!!!
@@wizdomdiscernment2.0 ,
Wow !
Excellent, Sandra !!
He who He called He justified He who He justified He also glorified its happens at once but we dont see the results until death God sees the begining from the end anyone who dosent believe in eternal security is trying to add thier own effort to what Jesus did. Remember the Matthew verse did we not do this Lord did we not do that Lord ? In peoples case who dont believe Jesus finished it will be saying were we not obedient Lord did we not do this did we not do that and He will say depart from me workers of iniquity we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of PROMISE God does not go back on.a promise
Some people push a message of “you better watch out you could lose your salvation”. Let’s examine that.
What would cause you to lose salvation? Sin would.
So, if Jesus died for your sins, did it work? Of course it did! That answer alone should end the discussion.
Jesus didn’t just die for small sins or ones we rarely commit. He died for the big ones and the ones we struggle with too.
There’s not a single verse that actually ever mentions losing salvation. No. It’s just distorted theology. And you can bet it’s almost always from legalist angry Christians and talk more about fear of them they do the love of Christ.
Now, let’s talk about the word “eternal”.
God’s word tells us “whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall not perish, but will have eternal life”.
Eternal means without an end. That word is extremely important when we’re thinking about losing salvation.
In order to lose salvation it could not be eternal, otherwise it would in fact have an end At the very best it would be temporary or contingent salvation. Emerite come from we call that works based salvation.
And let’s take that word eternal a little deeper. Eternal doesn’t just mean without an end. It also means without a beginning.
But wait, you had a birthday so you must have a beginning. And that’s when we discover that eternal salvation is not your life prolonged. But rather it’s Jesus‘ life given to you. It’s his eternal life you receive.
And now it makes sense!
Anybody teaching a theology of losing salvation is teaching law based salvation. And it’s a lie from the evil one. On one side of their mouth they are saying we are saved by faith, on the other side of their mouth they are saying we maintain it by works. That’s double-talk.
If salvation were maintained by works then it wouldn’t be a gift. It wouldn’t be by faith. And that kind of teaching is no different than all the fake religions of the world. Fake religions that require you to earn salvation through human effort.
How to teach losing salvation is reject the grace of God. And if we could keep our salvation through human effort then why in the world did Jesus go to the cross?
[Galatians 2:21] “ I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness cane through the law then Christ died needlessly”.
Timothy Wayne
A. So, if Jesus died for your sins, did it work? Of course it did! That answer alone should end the discussion.
Except for the fact that we must abide in the Vine in order to share his life. Eternal life is not something we can have APART FROM HIM.
…3 You are already CLEAN because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 REMAIN IN ME, and I WILL REMAIN IN YOU. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who REMAINS IN ME, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing (John 15:3-5)
Jesus describes his disciples as branches joined to him. As long as they REMAINED in a relationship of dependent faith in Him they would continue to receive His life and to bear fruit. However, the very fact He COMMANDS us to remain in Him tells us that we could CHOOSE to separate ourselves. The consequences for doing so are revealed in verse 5:
6 If anyone does NOT REMAIN IN ME, he is like a branch that is THROWN AWAY and WITHERS [dies]. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the FIRE and burned.…
(John 15:6)
A branch never develops the ability to generate its own life. All that comes from the vine, the leaves, the roots, and the sun. The branches are only conduits. If we do not keep the conditions of our covenant with God we can be cut off just as Israel was.
B. God’s word tells us “whosoever calls on the name of the Lord shall not perish, but will have eternal life”.
13 And in Him, having heard and believed the word of truth- the gospel of your salvation- you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is the pledge of our inheritance UNTIL the redemption of those who are God’s possession, to the praise of His glory.…
(Ephesians 1:13)
Right now we have the Holy Spirit of PROMISE who gives us a kind of life that is a foretaste of the fullness of eternal life in the world to come. There is a future tense eternal life that we do not yet experience and will not until the DAY OF REDEMPTION.
This final outcome is described by Jesus:
46 And these [goats] will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into ETERNAL LIFE” (Matthew 25:46)
Were the righteous admitted into eternal life because AT SOME POINT in their life they believed and confessed Christ? If OSAS were true this would be all that is necessary in order to be declared forever and unconditionally righteous. By contrast, Jesus says they entered because they led lives of faith love and obedience all of which was expressed by how they treated those who are loved by God.
C. Now, let’s talk about the word “eternal”.
You are assuming that we possess an immutable nature like God but we do not. You say you want to "go deeper" and go on to say "eternal (life) also means 'without beginning" Well it does when it speaks about GOD. We had a beginning.
D. And let’s take that word eternal a little deeper. Eternal doesn’t just mean without an end. It also means without a beginning...In order to lose salvation, it could not be eternal, otherwise, it would, in fact, have an end
Believers SHARE in His (eternal) life but since we are temporal creatures who are also moral agents we can BEGIN to share His life at one point and CEASE at another. Adam and Eve shared God's life but turned from Him through disobedience. Did the fact that God's life "did not have a beginning" prevent them from dying spiritually? No, because they were mutable moral creatures. This, however, did not in any way diminish the eternity of God's life.
But let us look at NT scriptures:
12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an EVIL UNBELIEVING HEART leading you to FALL AWAY from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to SHARE in Christ IF indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end. 15 As it is said,
“Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”
(Hebrews 3:12-15)
To share in Christ, we have to continue in the faith until the end and not be led astray by an "evil unbelieving heart" Encouraging others to listen to and obey the Holy Spirit is not "law teaching." Comforting Christians who are continually living in sin is not an indicator of mercy and love.
@@JimiSurvivorWho is the vine Jesus is referring to Jim? Is he talking to his church, or Israel. who is the vine? Jesus , or God, & branches are who? Israel. Where in scriptures is the church of Christ ever referred to as a branch? If you look, only Israel is referred to as a tree.
@@Sonny-xx9us
JESUS said HE was the Vine:
1 I am the TRUE vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard (John 15:1)
Since he was talking to his disciples it follows that it applies to all generations who would come into a covenant relationship with Him. In the metaphor of the teaching, the Father is the Keeper of the Vinyard. He also called Himself the Way (to the Father) the Truth (about the Father) and the Life (of the Father) we can only enjoy fellowship with the Father through Jesus. This matter is not confusing if you simply believe what Jesus said.
Where is the Church referred to as a branch? Right here and had Jesus taught this nowhere else it would be enough. Yes other metaphors were used for Israel but in the context of the NEW COVENANT both saved Israel and saved Gentiles are branches. Paul also used this imagery to teach about the connection between Jew and Gentile believers have with Christ:
…21 For if God did not spare the natural BRANCHES (natural but unbelieving Israel) He WILL NOT SPARE YOU you either. 22 Take notice, therefore, of the kindness and severity of God: severity to those who fell, but kindness to you, if you continue in His kindness. Otherwise, YOU WILL BE CUT OFF. 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.…
(Romans 11:21-23)
The agricultural metaphors Jesus used were meant to make things EASIER to understand. Instead of accepting His simple teaching about the New Covenant you are attempting to import other metaphors. I suspect you are doing this because you do not like the idea that branches connected to Christ can be cut off but this is taught in Romans 11 and in John 15
JimiSurvivor Greats points. I have a question tho. The Bible says that anyone who is born of God does not keep sinning. So if I’m continuing in sin, how can i say I’m saved?
Nathanael David I really want to leave me out this. I just want examine the scriptures
I believe we can lose our salvation by losing our way, like going back to our old sinful habits and ignoring God, but that's kinda why repentance is a thing... just say you're sorry for your sins, beg for forgiveness and hallelujah, you're good again! Because God is forgiving and merciful, so praise the Lord! Amen.
That is completely wrong. You cannot lose salvation by any means because it has nothing to do with how you live
Let me say THIS; as long as you "continue" in your faith, as long as you keep praying, keep fellow-shipping, keep reading your Bible, and just...basically stay "tuned in" to God's Spirit--His word, you'll be okay. But keep in ,mind, God, and His Christ NEVER said this would be a "cake-walk," in fact, scripture declares, "in this life, you will HAVE TRIBULATION." That's where the "rubber-meets-the-road." Scripture is ALSO quite clear--if you bother to read the NUMEROUS warnings Paul gives to the churches. He's talking to those who had "heard" the word, and the context is, they were/are accountable for what they were taught. I could bring a LARGE number of verses to bare, but suffice it to say, Paul tried to warn these churches about having "itching ears." So, what do you think that MEANS? It means that AFTER their conversion, they began to "listen" to teaching that went OUTSIDE of the Bible. If a Christian cannot "fall-away," then, why all he warnings, and why do we even SEE terms like, "falling away," "backsliding," (which means "Sliding BACK), "Apostasy," and "turning away?" I think it's quite obvious, a person CAN "slip away," and begin to distance themselves to a point where they never return. Can one who has "fallen" be "grafted BACK in," yes! The book of John tells us it CAN be done. In fact, the very CONTEXT of that verse PROVES a "believer" CAN fall away, because it tells of those who HAVE fallen, but, if they REPENT, like King David did, they can be Re-renewed! So, be sober-minded, and careful in your walk. The devil is as a "roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour." Who do you think he goes for the MOST--US!! Pray, and be blessed.
Revelation 3:16-18 King James Version (KJV)
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
@Don Lee yes I think that particular passage makes it very clear, we cannot live in a sinful life, example, b4 I gave my life to christ, I would premeditate my sin, I now know what's right and wrong , in the eyes of GOD
@Jerry Collins trash really??no part of GODS infallible word is trash, you will be held accountable for your words, how was jesus a gentile?? And how was jesus hated by GOD?? Do elaborate with specifics, how was he rejected by GOD? Btw the church, who are believers in christ aren't gentiles , they're grafted into iseral
@Jerry Collins lol the only thing clear is that your blasphemy GOD like a fool, please share the scripture that proves your pathetic ramblings, I will warn you again you will be held accountable for the words you speak you're blasphemy GOD
@Jerry Collins Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
1 Chro 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the Lord searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever
2 Chro 15:2 The Lord is with you, while ye be with him; and if ye seek him, he will be found of you; but if ye forsake him, he will forsake you.
STOP FALSE TEACHers. HALF TRUTH IS A LIE.
I got baptized 10 years ago but I decided to walk away and was living an earthly life full of rebellion and disobedience and forgot about God.
2 years ago I decided to give my life to God again and now I am living a life for Christ and learning to apply what He teaches us to do in my life. We must repent of our sins and apply His word in our life’s. We can’t claim to be Christian but not repent of our sins .
He has taken the Calvinistic approach. Once saved always saved also must include once damned always damned. Free will beings ALWAYS have the choice to choose.
Dan Hamilton
Amen brother
@Jerry Collins Free will is a choice not a doctrine... and please learn to correctly interpret scripture. Jesus was a Jew, not a gentile! Your 2 sentence paragraph lacks logic, order, truth, and is eissagetical at best.
If we didnt earn our salvation how could we unearn it? God is good!!
lol it's a free gift to those who believe. It's simple, but these heretical pharisees love to add prideful works and legalistic law keeping. Idiots.
This is not an argument. Logically I can think of many commodities we did not earn but which we can lose through contempt or abuse of the gift. Esau was given a birthright which he did nothing to earn but as a "profane person" he bartered it away in exchange for the "meat that perishes."
It's a gift of God that no one can earn. You can either accept it or reject it.
@@seanhaney8748
Obeying Christ's commands is an expression of our love for Him. I assure you no heretical Pharisee loves Christ or obeys His commands. ANYONE who does not obey Christ does NOT love him no matter what theological beliefs they CONFESS. Jesus said:
Whoever has My commandments and KEEPS THEM is the one who loves Me. The one who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and reveal Myself to him."
(John 14:15)
Notice how Jesus links obedience to a love relationship with God and then makes this the basic requirement for salvation. Furthermore, Jesus said that to REMAIN in this Love (as opposed from moving OUT of it) we must CONTINUE to submit to Him:
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love.
(John 15:10
)
By proclaiming a gospel that separates obedience from faith you encourage believers NOT to love Christ and as Paul said:
"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (cursed) Maranatha."
(1 Corinthians 16:22)
To every error there is an equal and opposite error. Opposite legalistic Phariseeism there is the equally heretical teaching of antinomian free grace.
@@seanhaney8748
Are you saying obeying the commands of Jesus is the same thing as the Pharisees attempting to establish their own righteousness through obedience to the Mosaic law?
What you do not seem to understand is that outside the context of Paul's corrective remarks about the Judaizer's teaching, the word "works" simply means actions and does not necessarily mean "legal works" The word, as used by Jesus and James can also refer to obedient responses of the will or "doing what God said.
5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the OBEDIENCE that comes from FAITH for his name’s sake.
(Romans 1:5)
Paul never taught a "faith" that was separate from obedience or one that consisted merely of believing certain doctrinal propositions.
Only those who have surrendered their lives to Him and continue to do His will throughout their lives on earth will inherit eternal life.
…6 God “will repay each one according to his DEEDS.” 7 To those who by perseverance in doing good seek glory, honor, and immortality, He will give ETERNAL LIFE
(Romans 2:7)
I spent 34 years in and out of church before I ever got saved.
Who said you were saved if you're watching Greg Laurie you're probably not saved
@@paulgross1931 what are you a liberal? I suggest you evaluate your own heart.
Its really an awakening teaching for me ..thank you Lord for the life of Pastor Greg ..plse bless him and his family and his ministry ..in Jesus name ..amen..watching from UAE Dubai
God Jesus loves you Rosemarie! Do Not listen mr. Collins, because He have the spirit of ANTI-Christ (1 John 2:22,23)! Lord Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah)!
LOVE in Christ!
Agreed. About the evidence in a persons life; no one knows where a person started from, so we shouldn’t be judging peoples hearts by the evidence/lack of evidence we see or don’t recognize👍🏻🕊
Amen, absolutely right, when we sin we get convicted by Holly Spirit, that is wonderful, Holly Spirit is in us and guide and protect us, we are sealed by the grace of God, praise the Lord God Almighty.
That doesn't mean we cannot fall from grace
He gives the example of the sower
The first guy responds with great enthusiasm. THAT PRETTY MUCH POINTS TO “being saved”. Trouble arises and he withers away. That pretty much points to “losing your salvation “
Jerry Collins Judaism didn’t start until Abraham. God saved Noah. Was he a gentile
Jerry Collins To be a Son if Abraham you had to be of love. God is love. Look at the Good Samaritan. God’s redemption resides in love of God and one’s neighbor. Not of birthrights
Jerry Collins God taught the truth through Israel. Sent the Messiah to finish the Truth in the Messiah. Jesus fulfilled ALL the prophecies in Jesus. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
Did Satan impregnate the Virgin. Angels have no physical bodies
Jerry Collins You suggest I trust Luke ? Isn’t he of the devil ?
Question: "Can a Christian lose salvation?"
Answer: First, the term Christian must be defined. A “Christian” is not a person who has said a prayer or walked down an aisle or been raised in a Christian family. While each of these things can be a part of the Christian experience, they are not what makes a Christian. A Christian is a person who has fully trusted in Jesus Christ as the only Savior and therefore possesses the Holy Spirit (John 3:16; Acts 16:31; Ephesians 2:8-9).
So, with this definition in mind, can a Christian lose salvation? It’s a crucially important question. Perhaps the best way to answer it is to examine what the Bible says occurs at salvation and to study what losing salvation would entail:
A Christian is a new creation. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come!” (2 Corinthians 5:17). A Christian is not simply an “improved” version of a person; a Christian is an entirely new creature. He is “in Christ.” For a Christian to lose salvation, the new creation would have to be destroyed.
A Christian is redeemed. “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect” (1 Peter 1:18-19). The word redeemed refers to a purchase being made, a price being paid. We were purchased at the cost of Christ’s death. For a Christian to lose salvation, God Himself would have to revoke His purchase of the individual for whom He paid with the precious blood of Christ.
A Christian is justified. “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). To justify is to declare righteous. All those who receive Jesus as Savior are “declared righteous” by God. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to go back on His Word and “un-declare” what He had previously declared. Those absolved of guilt would have to be tried again and found guilty. God would have to reverse the sentence handed down from the divine bench.
A Christian is promised eternal life. “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16). Eternal life is the promise of spending forever in heaven with God. God promises, “Believe and you will have eternal life.” For a Christian to lose salvation, eternal life would have to be redefined. The Christian is promised to live forever. Does eternal not mean “eternal”?
A Christian is marked by God and sealed by the Spirit. “You also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession-to the praise of his glory” (Ephesians 1:13-14). At the moment of faith, the new Christian is marked and sealed with the Spirit, who was promised to act as a deposit to guarantee the heavenly inheritance. The end result is that God’s glory is praised. For a Christian to lose salvation, God would have to erase the mark, withdraw the Spirit, cancel the deposit, break His promise, revoke the guarantee, keep the inheritance, forego the praise, and lessen His glory.
A Christian is guaranteed glorification. “Those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified” (Romans 8:30). According to Romans 5:1, justification is ours at the moment of faith. According to Romans 8:30, glorification comes with justification. All those whom God justifies are promised to be glorified. This promise will be fulfilled when Christians receive their perfect resurrection bodies in heaven. If a Christian can lose salvation, then Romans 8:30 is in error, because God could not guarantee glorification for all those whom He predestines, calls, and justifies.
A Christian cannot lose salvation. Most, if not all, of what the Bible says happens to us when we receive Christ would be invalidated if salvation could be lost. Salvation is the gift of God, and God’s gifts are “irrevocable” (Romans 11:29). A Christian cannot be un-newly created. The redeemed cannot be unpurchased. Eternal life cannot be temporary. God cannot renege on His Word. Scripture says that God cannot lie (Titus 1:2).
Two common objections to the belief that a Christian cannot lose salvation concern these experiential issues: 1) What about Christians who live in a sinful, unrepentant lifestyle? 2) What about Christians who reject the faith and deny Christ? The problem with these objections is the assumption that everyone who calls himself a “Christian” has actually been born again. The Bible declares that a true Christian will not live a state of continual, unrepentant sin (1 John 3:6). The Bible also says that anyone who departs the faith is demonstrating that he was never truly a Christian (1 John 2:19). He may have been religious, he may have put on a good show, but he was never born again by the power of God. “By their fruit you will recognize them” (Matthew 7:16). The redeemed of God belong “to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God” (Romans 7:4).
Nothing can separate a child of God from the Father’s love (Romans 8:38-39). Nothing can remove a Christian from God’s hand (John 10:28-29). God guarantees eternal life and maintains the salvation He has given us. The Good Shepherd searches for the lost sheep, and, “when he finds it, he joyfully puts it on his shoulders and goes home” (Luke 15:5-6). The lamb is found, and the Shepherd gladly bears the burden; our Lord takes full responsibility for bringing the lost one safely home.
Jude 24-25 further emphasizes the goodness and faithfulness of our Savior: “To Him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy-to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.”
Well written, Amen!!!!!!!
Felix Mitchell explain please
I am saved and let me ask you this, how does one lose their salvation and how does one get it back?
@Felix Mitchell I dont want do barge in or anything, but I read a verse in Colossians that said when you accept Christ that is locked in a "safe" and nothing can take you away from him. I am a new Christian so could you please explain this a little to me?
Thanks!
Felix Mitchell - trust in the finished work of the cross. That’s it. Don’t worry about being a “fruit inspector” for others. Salvation is an eternal thing. Just deal with it. 🙏
Salvation is based on what you believe, not how you live your life.
Romans 4:4-5 KJV - Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
GOD'S WORD IS IMMUTABLE AN ANCHOR IN TIMES OF STORM. God's will for our life: Simple-Listen to God, Obey God trust God.
So why didn't you say this on the big screen? Best line you said ever!
Enlightening explanation. Let us press on the good fight of faith until we go home in heaven. Thank you for sharing.
AMEN! If saved always saved and a saved man will live a changed life!
Thanks for leaving the Comments section open Greg :-)
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A person can loose their salvation, by their will rejecting Christ. For by your will you accept Christ and by your will reject Christ, it's all about the will
God never takes back His gift of salvation. It's like a family member, who doesn't want see or be a part of the family forever. You love that family member, and he or she will always be apart of the family, but you can't force them to be will the family if they don't want to.
But even if a family member doesn’t want to be part of the family anymore and reject them for whatever reason, it doesn’t change the FACT that he or she IS part of the family.
@@ventabunda1527 Amen bro/sis! God Jesus be with you always!
I have struggled with this topic and I had a hunch it was exactly what he said, works do not save us but they are manifestation of being saved, justification THEN Sanctification.
No is the answer. Salvation is not based on how good or bad we are, but on believing on Jesus for his free gift. No charge.
Many scriptures show us that OSAS is not biblical. The parable of the prodigal son is one of many that show OSAS is wrong.
@@timothyseals3791 Prodigal son shows that the father always loved his son, no matter what the son was doing to himself. The son resumed his relationship to his father, not his sonship. The son never stopped being the son. The Father will never reject his sons (believers) no matter what we do to ourselves. OSAS is intrinsically Bibical, always has been. Blessings.
@@fandude7 Of Course God will always love us, but just because we are His sons does not mean that we will go to heaven no matter what. He loves everyone, but not everyone is going to heaven.
The parable shows that the son was dead and became alive again. He was lost and found. He only became alive again and found again when he went back to his father.
The father always loved him, but the son died and would have stayed dead if he did not go back to the father.
Heb 10:26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses.
Heb 10:29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace?
Heb 10:30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.”
Never really answered it. Lol. All he did was add doubt=shipwrecking faith. Nice job, Greg.
@Felix Mitchell No you can't, get saved.
Felix Mitchell I have a life and work so I do not much free time.
1. Not necessarily, no. Everyone's name is in the book of life from the foundation of the world.
2. Yes
3. No
4. Revelation not Revelations.
Rev. 22:18-19. You really think a saved person would mess with God's word? See you are starting with a false notion that you can lose your salvation and now you don't understand the book of life at all. It would be an unsaved person turning reprobate in those verses.
Ex: Joseph Smith.
Again, with the imprecatory prayers by David in Psalm 69. He is praying against his enemies and praying for their death. They aren't saved, it's evident by the context. If his enemies are killed, their names are then taken out of the book of life, unless they were reprobate. So if David is asking for his enemies to be taken out of the book of life, does that mean you think they were saved in the first place?
With Rev 3:5 are you implying that salvation is based on works?
And where in the Bible does it mention anyone's name being added to the book of life?
Have you ever lost your salvation before? If so, how did you earn it back?
What must you do to go to heaven anyway?
@Felix Mitchell Clearly you did not understand my response, the book of life, and or you are purposely trying to slander me. My previous response clearly contradicts your last pedantic attempt to slander me. Clearly you are not saved. You don't understand the Bible.
Duke Scanlan Someone who Confesses that Jesus is lord but they don’t read the bible, pray and they live for the world. Do you think that they are saved
@@ShadowsOnly3 If they are truly saved and born again, then yes.
No works can save you, and nothing you can do to lose it. Contrary to the fool directly above me.
Amen Brother Greg! GOD bless you for preaching the truth
We work out out of salvation not for our salvation it is a Gift from God if we couldn't work for salvation or from good works how can we lose it we all sin and fall short of the Glory of God if we say we have no sin then we make God a liar and the truth is not in us if we confess and repent of our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us
Hebrews 6:4-6 warns us:
4 "For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame." (NKJV).
AMEN. Consider this also. And some will try to tell us that if a Christian ever backslides, or falls back into sin, that they "were never saved to begin with".. That is completely wrong. By the very meaning of the words, you CANNOT backslide from, depart from, or fall away from... something that you never had! If you never had it, you could not backslide from it, depart from it ,or fall away from it...
Caleb Caruthers you need to study more and pray about brother or sis you can't loose your salvation
Caleb Caruthers comment back and ill send you a link to a debate
John Byman the warnings are to keep up strong and help from temptations & this verse is not talking about Christans it was talking about the Hebrews
ALL the books of the New Testament were written to Christians, both Jew and Gentile.
I always enjoy your message, God bless you
If you break one command ,you have broke them all. So then there is no way a person can compromise the commands of Jesus.
I think it's a law your talkin about. And when you have the Holy Spirit you're not under the law. Before that you are.
@Jerry Collins you are full of heresy. A shame you wasted so much of everybody's time.
John 3:16, most powerful verse never mentioned, mankind always has and will always be sinners, thank God for Jesus Christ.
@Jerry Collins He went there to preach the (good news). Where is Jesus now? Ephesians 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Ephesians 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
Ephesians 1:22 And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church,
Ephesians 1:23 Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.
@Jerry Collins what on earth are you talking about?
@Jerry Collins wow bro. Your lies run deep. John 8.44 is directed specifically at those jews who rejected him and rejected Abraham.
And he never said anything in john 18 about him not being the christ.
And both of his parents were descendants of David.
@Jerry Collins can i pray for you bro?? You're just goofy. Jesus isn't being "oppressed and afflicted" while they're asking him questions. Isaiah is talking about his scourging. Don't you know how that works??
Scourging was designed to force a confession out of someone, to get an admission of guilt throughthe intense pain of ripping your body to pieces. They tell you in advance that you're going to get 39 lashes and it can stop whenever you confess. THAT'S the affliction. And while he was scourged he said and confessed nothing because he was guilty of nothing.
You should read the old testament closer.
@Jerry Collins maybe you need glasses.
"He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth." I don't see the name "pilate" anywhere. But i DO see Jesus being silent while he is being afflicted EXACTLY LIKE isaiah said.
AHHHH this video parallels my faith journey far too closely!!!! I held off being fully baptized for so long because I thought it would be blasphemy to get baptized again! I was sprinkle baptized at 13 because my mother told me to, despite me wanting to get baptized myself before she told me I had to. I was baptized, but because I wasn't all in; I didn't understand the fullness of what I was "buying into" for a lack of words. My heart's soil, my soul's soil was SO shallow!!!! Ridiculously so!!! I THOUGHT I was saved, but kept sinning! Kept indulging in things I should not have! And I wasn't truly sorry for it!!
But this last summer, July 9th 2021, I rededicated my life to Christ and got fully submerged in baptismal waters. I didn't understand everything there is to know about the Bible and about Life, and I still don't, but I knew and know God does. I dedided to begin truly run blindly towards Him, knowing that even though I don't really know what to do in life, God does. He made me, and then saved me, which means He wants me, and loves me. And loves me so much He was willing to live as a man and be tortured to death so that all of mankind could be saved. And I want Him back!! I want to show Him back as much love as my human heart and body is capable of! And now I feel horrible guilt when I sin. I cry sometimes when I sin. It's something I can't completely avoid as a human, but I always end up back at the feet of God crying for forgiveness and telling Him how much I hate these habits that want to come back. Living a life for Christ really does mean working it out. It's a two way relationship, and you have to let God have the lead in it. It's a journey, a process, something that takes progress and effort and strength, and so much more. So much that we don't have, that God supplies for us.
Great testimony, but Baptism did not save you; it was your sincere repentance from sin, and trust in Jesus death and resurrection for your salvation. Baptism is a later event that a person experiences after they believe and are saved. Baptism is an outward sign of what has already happened on the inside as we are Born Again by the Spirit of God. Baptism is a statement we are making that we are publicly proclaiming we no longer belong to this world and sin, but are now dead to our old life. Coming out of the water, we are entering a new life, a new commitment to live a life worthy of Jesus great sacrifice for us. Blessings!
Those who believe they can lose their salvation are confused about what salvation is. There is a falling away from one's profession of faith and there is a saving faith which perseveres to the end because God preserves His saints who are faithful (Psalm 31:23) If God preserves His saints (and He does) then who can snatch them out of His hand? See John 10:27-29
Amen
Amen brother Carlton!
Correct
Hebrews 6:1-2 says:
1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Notice that it says "not laying again a foundation" in verse 1. This has the idea of permanence. When you build a house, you lay a foundation. You don't come back later and lay the foundation again. Clearly this means that we only need to repent of our sins and believe the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) once in regards to our salvation.
Hebrews 6:4-5 says:
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
This portion of scripture is being addresed to born again believers in Jesus Christ. In verse 4 it states that these believers have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 4:30 says:
And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
This verse makes it clear that a believer can grieve the Holy Spirit by sinning, and yet still be sealed for the day of redemption (see Ephesians 1:13-14).
Hebrews 6:6 says:
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
This verse states that for those who have fallen away (living under the power and control of the flesh - Galatians 5:17, 5:19-21), that it is impossible (see vs 4) to renew them again unto repentance. That is because our repentance is foundational and can NEVER be laid down again.
Calvinist?
The good news + 5 point list = bad news (not saving)
Jesus + nothing = salvation and eternal security and the only true salvation.
Jesus' shed blood, his death, burial and resurection IS THE ONLY PROOF I NEED
Can you please comment on what Jesus said? Thank you for your time:
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" -Jesus
"You will be hated by all because of My name, but it is the one who has endured to the end who will be saved." -Jesus
"I am the vine; you are the branches .... If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned …. Abide in my love. If you keep my commandments, you will abide in my love
" -Jesus
’e-ḇen the first one they rely on their works instead of Jesus they say have WE not prophesied in your name, instead of trusting in Jesus they rely on their work and Jesus says they practice lawlessness which is not a trait of someone who is saved, these verses aren’t about someone losing salvation it’s proof they were never saved to begin with when you are truly saved you will do many works, “faith without works is dead” means that they weren’t believers and they did works to save themselves when this does not work you have to only rely on Jesus that’s it, after that you will begin to make fruit and works, make sense?
@@portaadonai these are they who trusted in their works to get to heaven, this is no different then Islamic doctrine. Who base their obediences and good works to get them to heaven.
Obedience has nothing to do with us receiving Salvation. It is only so.ething God gives us through what Christ did on the cross. And we know that salvation is a gift and the gifts of God are never taken away. God isn't an Indian giver. And if you think so, then please show me the difference between other gods and The God if the Bible..
Yessir WE HAVE A SAVIOR WHO DONE ALL, PAID ALL, ACCOMPLISHED ALL, AND PERFORMED ALL THAT IS NECESSARY FOR OUR SALVATION.- J.C RYLE
risingStar No need to be confused. We are in the church age, we are saved by grace through faith, Not of works ephesians 2:8-9. Even if you don’t work at all your faith is counted for righteousness romans 4:4-5. Once you have put your faith in Christ alone you receive the holy spirit and are born again John 1:12. SEALED until the day of redemption ephesians 4:30. If a verse looks like it is talking about losing salvation you need to study the context. Salvation is a FREE GIFT romans 5:15-16. We are in the Church age so the mystery was revealed to Paul by the risen Christ and he was made the apostle of the Gentiles romans 11:13. In the Gospel Jesus spoke a lot about the tribulation time period, which won’t be faith alone but works also. May the peace of Christ be with you. Amen.
This guy adds to the Gospel! Once a person is saved, they are always saved. He mixes discipleship, service and everything else into the simplicity of the Gospel. The only evidence for salvation is who the person is trusting in. If they trust that Jesus has saved them when he died for their sins, was buried, & rose again the third day, then they are saved & should know that they have eternal life, which cannot be lost. Those that believe that they have to do anything at all, to remain saved, do something to get saved besides believing, and think that they could lose salvation are not saved.
Ephesians 1:13-14 “13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.”
A huge amen brother aaron
I think you misunderstood Greg. We do believe that once you are saved, you are always saved, if you continue to believe. God didn't force you to be saved; He will not force you to stay saved. But... He did know who would be truly saved even before He made the universe. Those whom God knew would choose Jesus and remain with Him, He chose them for eternal life. Blessings!
Yes you can: Jesus will not forsake you except if you forsake him
In my opinion, it’s dangerous to teach that you can lose your salvation. Once you’re truly saved, you are sealed. That probably sounds cliche, but, if it’s true, then, it’s true. As someone who used to worry that I would lose my salvation for putting my left shoe on my right foot, so to speak, I can vouch for the unnecessary anxiety that teaching a doctrine like this can give a person. I actually would get physically sick( it’s a bit more personal and gross than that, so, I’m not gonna go into details, but you get the point ) because it was all that I could think about. I was driving myself crazy.
Why would a loving God want us to question our salvation if He’d gone to such a length to ensure it? It’s like, to put it simply and not give it justice, the whole premise of Finding Nemo where Marlin is working so hard to find Nemo. No matter what happens in the future, ‘ Nemo ‘ knows that his dad loves him because he spent so much time, trying to find him. I know that I just completely butchered that, but my point is: When Jesus said that it was finished, He meant it. There was no ‘ it’s finished until they do this or that ‘. Any sin is reason enough to keep us away from God-we are kept away from God until we obtain salvation. Therefore, if we’re saved, and we go off in a moment of anger or do something else like that, isn’t that enough grounds for losing our salvation? If that were the case, then, I’m pretty sure none of us would be able to proclaim that we’re saved by grace because we wouldn’t be anymore.
No, you can’t just say the prayer and move on with a sinful life. But teaching that you can lose your salvation altogether sounds pretty legalistic and even nightmarish to me. Salvation is freely given to those who choose to accept it. The Holy Spirit will guide you; what follows is up to you.
Yes, I know the teaching is not palatable, but it is true. You can be disqualified from the prize by your sinful conduct. A born again person can "die" again if they walk in the flesh. Paul makes this clear.
I love Greg Laurie. And I respect him immensely. But on this topic, we are miles a part.
AMEM! You can do nothing to earn salvation, neither can you do anything to lose it.
Whenever this question pops up, even in my own life, I like to keep it simple. Simplicity is the key to peace in everything with God because notice how every man and woman on this thread is complicating the issue with this and that all while quoting Scripture? It comes down to this simple understanding and then leave it there. Ask yourself, Which one of the thieves am I hanging next to Christ on the Cross?
Every time something or someone tried to put some doubt or place an extra little thing to do in my path, no matter how much Scripture they quoted or reading that sounded whole, I just remembered which thief I am hanging on the Cross next to Jesus.
I thank my God for His simple, beautiful, and unfettered love for me. I pray you let him love you this way too.
Exodus 32 31-33, Revelation 3 5 . YES WE CAN LOOSE OUR SALVATION. We can't just leave a sinfull life & expected to make to Heaven with out any repentance of our sin. ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED IS A CULTTEACHING
People here are arguing about whether or not you lose your salvation. Here’s my answer with common sense.
Once you are in the hands of God he will never leave your side. Once you are on fire for God, and believe that Jesus died for your sins, you love him, understand that you’re a sinner and realize that none of us are perfect, then God will let us have everlasting life.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world (he loves every single person) that he gave his only begotten son (Jesus) so that whoever believes in him (us christians) will not perish but will have everlasting life. (In heaven with God/Jesus forever) That verse alone proves that if we are saved, we simply cannot be stripped away due to our actions. If that is the case then everyone of us are going to hell because sin is inevitable and there’s no way anyone and I mean ANYONE can avoid sin.
Therefore with that being said if christians believe that you can lose your salvation that’s straight from hell and it’s the devil trying to confuse you. God won’t ever leave your side and he loves you with all of his heart.
Everyone sins and falls short of the glory of God which means that in that verse alone, Paul is saying that everyone sins, everyone will sin, and everyone will continue to sin, which means that if you are saying that christians can lose our salvation, then being a Christian is pointless and everyone will go to hell. But that’s not the case at all.
Much love and God bless I hope this made sense
I will definitely get back to you in details, You are so wrong.
Your teaching of such a simple verse John 3:16 was perverted by you as most others do. the phrase " will not perish" does not exist in John 3:16, it says and rightfully so " should not perish ", so those who believe in Jesus should not perish, but many will. Matthew 7:21 - 22, Jesus himself said there would be many, and they even refer to Him as Lord. you false teaching is from Satan and will help no one. should not!
Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ (Notice how God only mentions their works....but not their faith. This is an example of those who believe you can lose your Salvation if you don't do enough works or don't obey enough. These people obviously did works in the name of Jesus so they "believed" in Him partly which isn't really believing, but they didn't believe 100%. Jesus only knows those who truly believe in what He did on the cross).
Acts 15:7-15
And after there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, “Brothers, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe. And God, who knows the heart, bore witness to them, by giving them the Holy Spirit just as he did to us, and he made no distinction between us and them, having cleansed their hearts by faith. Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the disciples that neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? But we believe that we will be saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, just as they will.” ...
Romans 10:9
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Acts 16:30-33
Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family.
John 3:16-18
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
Galatians 2:21
I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.
Romans 6:14
For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace.
Romans 10:9-10
Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
John 5:24
Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.
John 6:37
All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.
Ephesians 1:13
In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit
Romans 10:13
For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
2 Timothy 1:9
Who saved us and called us to a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began
Romans 8:38-39
For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1 Peter 1:8-9
Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.
Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.
John 10:28
I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand.
Isaiah 64:6
We have all become like one who is unclean, and all our righteous deeds are like a polluted garment. We all fade like a leaf, and our iniquities, like the wind, take us away.
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I can keep going....Like Isaiah said, our righteous deeds our like filthy rags. How can they save us then after we are already born again and sealed with the Holy Spirit. They can't. Obeying the Law does not save you, its calling out to Jesus and believing in your heart that He is Lord and Savior, and died for our sins and rose on the third day, giving us eternal security if we believe. Let God be true and every man a liar....If you claim that you can lose your eternal security, you are calling Paul, and God Himself a liar.
Like Peter said, demanding that we remain "sinless" by practicing works and repenting after every single sinful thought and actions is a burden that is impossible to bear. Only Jesus is sinless. We will always be unaware of a sin we did, we will always fall short every single second of the day. It's impossible to keep up. Do we give up and just not try to keep a good relationship with God? Of course not!! But we do NOT lose our salvation even if someone unfortunately does. Because we are not saved by our own merit, therefore we cannot boast about how much we pray or repent or read the bible for our salvation. Salvation is a free gift from God, and I hate when people say you can throw that gift away....no you can't! That gift is TATTOOED into our souls. It's permanent. It's ingrained in us now as much as the Holy Spirit is...since the Holy Spirit is the one who is sealing us.
Let's say I had a porn problem and even with the help of the Holy Spirit I still fell short and gave into sin once in a long while...if the rapture happens right when I'm falling short and watching porn, even though Jesus knows I believe and will ask for forgiveness (not to be saved, but because I love God), will I still go to hell because the rapture happened to occur when I was making a mistake I hardly make anymore? NOOOOOO. Absolutely NOT. The devil will make you believe that one sin will throw you into hell after you're saved, and soon you will give up because you will realize your flesh will always remain sinful and you will always fall short. When you believe that your own works won't save you, then you will truly believe in the what Jesus did on the cross and God's grace will not be a burden on you...In Matthew 11:28 Jesus says his yoke is easy and his burden is light....if you have the burden of believing that you will go to hell every time you sin and forget to ask for forgiveness, then that is not a light and easy burden. It is definitely hard to live for Christ when you believe that you are saved by your own righteousness, when it says in Isaiah even your best deeds are filthy rags.The bible says nothing in earth or heaven which includes US, can separate us from the Love of Jesus once we are saved. NOTHING, not even YOU.
I used to believe in Lordship Salvation and guess what...I sinned more back then, I took it less seriously. When you are so invested in the Law, you notice you tend to break it more. But when I rest in the Grace of Jesus and know that I can never be plucked out of His hand...I do not fall into sin as much and I trust Him SO MUCH MORE. I am led by His grace and not by own effort anymore. I am done trying to be good enough because that is something I can't accomplish. Jesus' righteousness is mine. My righteousness is filthy and it can't save me any more than doing 100 hundred push ups a day and eating only fruits and veggies can stop me from dying one day.
REPENT (which is a change of mind that only happens once because we believe and receive the Holy Spirit, even God repented in the bible), and believe in the TRUE gospel of GRACE through FAITH alone in CHRIST alone. Lordship Salvation is a doctrine of demons meant to burden a Christian.
Amen. The gift cannot be lost by those who receive it.
So if someone gives me a gift I can’t lose it?
My parents gave me some shoes, that I did nothing to earn, and I lost them, the same is true for your salvation
Jesus said we must abide or we will wither up and be cast into fire
Psalms 51 (David asked God not to take away the Holy Spirit). It means that if you grieve the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 4:30) it will flee from you and you have taken yourself out of the salvation on your own will.
@@paparoevlogs2524 absolutely incorrect.
@@christpilled6369 the scripture says it’s a gift. And once excepted. A believer is secure.
Jesus is the only way to heaven. Let our actions speak louder than our words. Let me always be for You Lord Jesus Christ. My Lord and Savior ✝️
Let me add something, a very HUGE slice of typology from Matthew: The verse about the "Ten Virgins." The word "virgin here, refers to those who had been "cleansed," as it were--of their sins; well, guess what--about HALF of them failed to "keep their LAMPS lit." I think you KNOW what that means! They had no more "oil," (Spirit). In other words, they LOST the anointing (in God's word) that they once HAD. They went out looking for some, but, it was TOO late! Add to THAT the warning, in the book of Revelation of a "Great falling away." Honestly people, I understand your concerns, and your perceptions on how you think GOD should think--but keep in mind--not only does He not FORCE us to come unto Him, He does not FORCE us to STAY in Him That is NOT God's way. For love to be of any TRUE, lasting value, it not only must be a decision of the heart--it must be KEPT! Think about that. There is an element inherent in the OSAS doctrine that is potentially dangerous, and that IS, it leaves us to think that no matter how much trouble (sin) we have in our lives--God has it COVERED! Well, yes--and no! If we are TRULY repentive and are doing our level BEST to pray for STRENGTH in these areas, then YES--it IS covered--but if a person begins to take that sin, or weakness for granted (perhaps you attend a church that is a bit "watered-down), there can begin a process where you are no longer making a conscientious effort to STOP that habitual problem--it HAPPENS--mark my word! So, be sober-minded, and do not give the devil/s too much "rope." Pray and be blessed! Amen.
Are you sinless??? Only my God and Savior Jesus Christ is sinless, we all are sinners! God bless you!
Its like you are saying that Jesus finished works at the cross WAS NOT enough because you need to be righteous just to maintain salvation. Aren't you make yourself a CO-SAVIOR and CO-REDEEMER with Jesus Christ. My friend Ray, you are not worthy for you are a sinner. Jesus alone can save you and He did it already. What He requires for you is to BELIEVE on Him and His FINISHED WORKS at the cross. You can't lost your salvation because it is a GIFT from God.
Romans 11:21-22 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you...continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off.
Rev 3:5 He who overcomes...i will not erase his name from the book of life.
Michael Reidy this can be a difficult and upsetting discussion. What about before Romans 11 and going back to Romans 9 chooses whom will have mercy, and how he raised Pharoh only to demonstrate his power to the nations, God demonstrates His sovereignty throughout the Bible, your thoughts brother.
Correct, I WILL not blot out of his name. Not might. A promise :-) You say, but don't we get all added to the Book of Life when we get saved? Psalm 139.16 says otherwise
Lukewarm Christians will be shut out of the kingdom of heaven. Those who PRACTISE unrepentant sin no longer have the blood covering it as you once delivered return to your old sinful nature you are better off you did not taste the freedom in Christ. I know there is Grace but all Jesus parables speak of lost son returning. But no one thinks if he never repents he is dead. No one preaches the whole council of God. A true believer will have spirit and power to break any sin so you do not PRACTISE sin repent sin repent...... Look at the 5 wise foolish vergins. Look at the wheat and tares. The parable of talents. The revelation church letters. The ones who Jesus says I do not know you. Then after he says that he adds those who PRACTISE LAWLESSNESS. LAWLESSNESS is sin. Look at the ones that are left outside the kingdom.
What about Jesus is coming back for a church without spot and wrinkle. Scripture says the spirit will keep you from sin. Noticed Jesus washed apostles feet. Peter said not so and Jesus said then you have no part in me. Jesus knew our feet would get dirty with random sin. When I read parables it about a hard sins. The ones you keep repeating. Even when Jesus healed he sternly warned to not sin. I still sin today but I do not PRACTISE a bound sin. Personally it's a heart issue. I do not and repeat am not your master. I have a master and it's Jesus. I cannot be God and say some other servant is saved or not. God knows your secret things so you can fool people but got sees the inside. God wants to clean inside and then outside will be clean. God convicted me without anyone preaching. I was in porn sin and the scripture says if you die with this you will be cast into lake of fire. Adultery, fornicatiors, unbelievers, fearful, liers, criminals, drug users, smokers, alcoholics, rapist, murders and the sorcerer. Those that practice these things will NOT inherit the kingdom of God. Repent and love God with all your mind heart and BODY and love your neighbor as yourself. God gives you this love to obey him. Otherwise why would we need Jesus when we could work it out ourselves. The difference between old covenant is they sinned and had to sacrifice animals for atonement. But they did not have the power of holy spirit to be born again. The new covenant you now can be born again. Free from shackles of sin. Free from the porn,free from drugs,free from unfogiveness, free from bitterness, free from stealing and on and on. You get the fruit of the spirit . one fruit is self control! So only you know your heart. Do you live a secret life? Are you lukewarm? Do you obey Jesus teachings on the sermon on the mount? If not then you are in danger of the lake of fire. Work out your salvation with fear and TREMBLING. The fear of the serverness of God fell on me and got me to repent. God is a consuming fire. Make no mistake God's coming back to judge the wicked. Come out of the pigpen and return to the sheepfold. Do not remain in your sins that will lead to death. Put off the old man and walk in spirit so you do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. Remember those that do God's will are his mother's, brothers, sisters. Those that do not follow Jesus teaching are already dead. Guard your heart ad there are many false teaching out here. Works and obedience are seperate things. Our good deeds are filthy rags to God. King Saul disobeyed God and Samuel prophet told his disobedience is as witchcraft! God wants you to obey him. God also has mercy over sacrifice. God gives grace to humble but resists the proud. Makes you wonder when those who don't get in prophsied in his name , cast out demons in his name and did many wonderful things in his name and heard I do not know you. Read the next line........you who PRACTISE LAWLESSNESS. You can live it up and risk lake of fire or walk narrow path. I will end with this. He who yeilds to flesh brings death. He who yeilds to spirit has external life.
Thanks Pastor Greg, I feel totally encouraged by your message...
Jesus says the one who believes has or posseses eternal or everlasting life. John 6:47, 17:3, 5:24, etc
Everlasting life never ends by definition. If you lose it, you never had it. You lost temporary life. But the belieber has everlasting life and everlasting belief because they go together.
Where does the Bible day everlasting life and everlasting believe go together?
Zain Jones All of the verses in the New Testament that refers to obedience is talking about the obedience of believing and trusting in the true gospel of faith alone. That is the obedience that is required for salvation. If you believe anything else besides that you are not being obedient. So yes faith and obedience are tied together because if you have true faith you are being obedient to Jesus. Plus we are not saved by submitting our wills to him simply because submitting your will to him is impossible. The only way to submit your will to Jesus or to serve him in a way that we’ll grant you eternal life if to do that to absolute perfection. Which no one can. So if you have sinned ever then you have not submitted your well to Jesus. Also Jesus is Lord whether you claim him as your Lord or not. He doesn’t need you to grant him as your Lord. He already is simply because he is God.
@emanuel kournianos
No believer on the Earth now posses Eternal life in the actual sense. When a person gets "born again" they receive ET as a promise to be cashed in, as it were, when you die. EL is not time-life into never ending time. We don't know what it is so many people apply our limited understanding of never ending time. But it is not never ending time.
Thus, a person can "lose" ET if they are disobedient in their lives on the Earth. And by disobedience, I mean living a sinful life here on the Earth. How much sin? I don't know, but God knows. God knows the difference between mistakes from time to time and wilfull disobedient life style. For example: Maybe one day I'm hanging out with friends, I let me guard down, had a few drinks and got drunk. Compare that to a person who gets hammered all the time. There is a difference. That's not to say that the 1st case isn't bad, but it's not the same as the latter.
no matter how Holy you think you can live...if you are "happy", since he was throwing that term around a little loosely, and comfortable in the flesh, something is wrong!
The Bible is clear over and over again that God wants us to be happy. That is not incomaptiable with holiness. Holiness is true happiness. That is not the same as taking delight in sin........
Wow! This is amazing! Amen!! Important for us all to hear!
"If good works didn't save you, bad works won't cause you to be lost." --Ralph Arnold
1 samuel 16 verse 14
@@eddiemirtille9294 Has nothing to do with Salvation. The Spirit did not indwell a person until after Calvary. Saul was annointed with the Spirit UPON him for service.
@@Species-rj9si thanks i know that Spirit upon us is for the service till today ( expérience of Pentecostal or baptism with the Spirit and fire of Christ after the new birth luke 24 verse 49)
So are you received the Spirit upon you on order to be a servant doing the works of the Lord? Obviously not regarding your wrong understanding of the Word of God
Now just take a look at this parable especially here :
Luke 19
20 “Then another servant came and said, ‘Sir, here is your mina; I have kept it laid away in a piece of cloth.21 I was afraid of you, because you are a hard man. You take out what you did not put in and reap what you did not sow.’
22 “His master replied, ‘I will judge you by your own words, *you wicked servant* ! You knew, did you, that I am a hard man, taking out what I did not put in, and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then didn’t you put my money on deposit, so that when I came back, I could have collected it with interest?’
24 “Then he said to those standing by, ‘Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.’
25 “‘Sir,’ they said, ‘he already has ten!’
26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away.27 *But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them-bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”*
The wicked servant is not saved
Matthew 25
26His lord answered and said unto him, Thouwicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: 27Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and thenat my coming I should have received mine own with usury. 28Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
29For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. 30 *And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.*
Matthew 24 v
45Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?46Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 47Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods. 48But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;49And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken; 50 *The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teet*
Luke 13
He said to them, 24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’
“But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’
26 “Then you will say, ‘We ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’
27 “But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from. Away from me, all you evildoers!’
28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”
You are not saved yet😉 Get some oil before it s too late ( life is short the end of your time is near and the door can be closed for you at any moment )
7And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, *he that openeth, and no man shutteth ( but the Lord himself === 1 Samuel 16 v 14 ) ; and shutteth, and no man openeth;*
You understand now ?
A sentinelle of Christ appointed by Christ.
Special calling spititual Judge on 1 cor 6 v 2 and 3
Spiritual tribe as a spiritual jew : Dan
Blessings of Dan Deut 33 v 22, Genesis 49 v 16 To 18
Actuality of such a calling Isaiah 1 v 26
New birth at the age of 25 in 2001
Baptism with the Spirit and fire by the Lord God CHRIST on the 7/7/2014 ( 777).
Dan is here in the celestial Jérusalem Ezechiel 48 v 1
Dan was the tribe of Samson the tribe of the 7th Part Joshua 19 v 40
The tribe of the 7th Part in the celestial Jérusalem Will be the tribe of Judah Ezechiel 48 v 7
My oil will not save you if you have already been marked by the Beast by God because of false doctrines ===) 2 thess 2 v 9 To 12.
That is a spiritual mark and Cain was the first to have it.
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Salvation is not a thing, but rather a place. It is never lost. The individual decides to either leave or stay within.
A saved person can not lose their salvation because our salvation is based on the completed work of Jesus Christ, not by our own works. Ephesians 2:8-10 King James Version (KJV)
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Yes we GAIN our salvation thanks to Jesus but we can still lose it
"you're not saved by your works, but if you dont have the works then you were not really saved" sounds like a convoluted way to say you're saved by your works :)
He doesn't know how to rightly divide.....and gets stuck in teaching from james and Hebrews......that are meant for jews…….not Christians living in the AGE OF GRACE....!
Yes, yes you can. " For it is impossible to renew to repentance those who were once enlightened, who tasted the heavenly gift, who shared in the Holy Spirit, who tasted God’s good word and the powers of the coming age, and who have fallen away. This is because, to their own harm, they are re-crucifying the Son of God and holding him up to contempt."
Hebrews 6:4-6
Those that were covered by the blood in the Passover were saved. It didn't matter if they were murderers, rapists, pedophiles, thieves, or any matter of lawlessness. All they had to do was believe enough in the blood to "save" them from the wrath that was coming. But just because they partook in the gift of salvation from the wrath that came did not mean they continued on into the promised land. Most of them committed idolatry in the wilderness, even though they had seen heavenly gifts and shared in the Holy Spirit. No one can take your salvation but you can walk away from it. Once saved always saved is a dangerous doctrine and is used by many to continue in sin. And that whole "maybe they where not saved in the first place" is a lie as well. Just read again the above verse. The bible uses the word "IF" a lot. "If" we continue in God's laws, "if" we endure to the end, then we will make into the promised land, that is, eternity.
"4 I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby acquitted. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time..." (1 Corinthians 4:4-5 rsvce)
Im here struggling. I met my first love at a bible camp, we dated for almost 2 years and grew strong in Christ together. His parents have been missionaries his whole life so he knew how to be saved and lived a strong christian life.. until we broke up. He got in with some very dark things in this world and Satan took over his life so bad that a few days ago he took his own life. I care for him very deeply but could not associate myself with him anymore due to the choices he was making and I just feel awful. I want to feel secure that he is in heaven and that he did not lose his salvation.. I pray that he just veered off the wrong path and God still saved him because for the majority of his life he has been saved.
It IS possible that God made a way for him, precious one, but make no mistake, scripture carries far more warnings about our faith then "pats on the back." Read my other comments to get a better "read" on this issue. God bless you "Alli," and "continue" in what you KNOW to be true. God bless you.
Don't consume yourself worrying about his salvation trust that God knew what was best he was a troubled soul that got caught up but still loved God...only God knows his heart...I encourage and implore you to keep running for Jesus...he loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life....trust in him and don't waiver. The enemy wants to send you on a guilt trip...NO! Forgive your boyfriend and forgive yourself...break the soul tie so you can be free...I am praying for you in Jesus name..may your heart be lifted and God does something miraculous with your life...God speed!
No, you cannot! But only if you are truly saved! Otherwise not at all!
Laurie does it the right way, to encourage true believers and to warn people who think they are saved but disobey the commandments
only those who are truly saved can fall away from the faith - apostasy relates to those who once partook of the Divine life.
Sheep Dog - your fiddling about with semantics to suit your limited perception. Eternal Life has no beginning (contrast with Everlasting life, which has a beginning but no end) and using your faulty logic a person with Eternal Life always had it and that quality only belongs to God, Who has no beginning! "For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit (DIVINE ETERNAL LIFE) and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, AND THEN HAVE FALLEN AWAY, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance ....." Hebrews 6:4-6
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Not true. Read 1 John 2:19
ShieldOfTheKingdom
Eternal security is right but it's only for born again Christians, not for those who merely honor Jesus with their lips but don't know him in their hearts. I would recommend you to read 1 John Chapter 3. GBY
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Show me one verse that shows me you can be unborn
Lord I pray that every penny that I give to Harvest may increase believers by millions to change the world. Thank you. Amen
Romans 3:23 All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. All, not some, but all. Romans 3:10 There is none righteous, no not one. So, we are all unrighteous ungodly sinners in Gods eyes.
Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life, through Jesus Christ our Lord. If salvation was not a free gift, no one could be saved. Sinners can not save themselves.
John 3:18 Believers are not condemned, but unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE "TEMPORARY"LIFE. NO, IT IS ETERNAL LIFE. You can not lose eternal life. And since it is a free gift from God, we have nothing to boast in. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. IT is free.
Amen brother! People who dont believe in eternal security are trying to add self effort in some way Jesus did what we could not and paid our sin debt if we believe He did. And just so no one tried to jump on me saying we can sin all we want while that is technically true the saved person will not WANT to sin but we fail and fall in this life anyone who continues in wilful sin and enjoys is is not saved to begin with
jim kraft
Eternal life is in the Son:
…11 And this is that testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is IN HIS SON.
(1 John 5:11)
Only those who remain in the Vine share the life with Him
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you DO NOT REMAIN in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and WITHERS; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.
(John 15:5-6)
Branches bear fruit because they are conduits of the vine's life. Verse 6 says that it is POSSIBLE for someone who has been organically joined to Christ to not stay there but to become disconnected. When that happens Jesus said that the branch WITHERS, that is, it slowly dies. When all the activity of life has ceased it is taken outside the vineyard and incinerated.
You don't get your eternal life yet pal. Christ has to return. Judgment day has to occur. That's when the rest of the world gets offered salvation. That's when you confess to God of your belief.
That's when you get baptized and become an immortal spirit. Right now you are a physical mortal, sinner, claiming to believe.
So there's no one that's righteous then why does God account people for righteous if no one's righteous.
@@jeffouellette9946 Because of the time line in God's plan. There first has to be tribulation, then seven seals opened, then Christ has to return, then judgment day. Then salvation to righteousness. That's why the ignorant or decieved, run around lying to themselves and others that they are "saved", or "born again".
Philippians 2:12 Paul wrote, “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. You can loose your salvation if you decide not to stay saved
Grace And Peace. *The NEW OWNER Of a believer Makes The "Choice" of NOT "Losing"*
*God's ETERNAL Salvation! Always ALWAYS "check" With HIM By ALL Of HIS Sound Doctrine!I*
Amen?:
Part 1 *God's ETERNAL Salvation!:*
*MISSION: To Exalt The LORD JESUS CHRIST by proclaiming ALL The Counsel Of God,*
*According To HIS Revelation Of The Mystery!* Amen?
*GRACE And Peace From God, The Father, And, From The LORD JESUS CHRIST!*
Note: without *God's Holy Spirit,* it will Be IMPOSSIBLE to "understand"
*God's ETERNAL Salvation Doctrine (1 Corinthians 2 : 13-14!),* so,
*The Following!* Must Occur FIRST! Amen?:
*God's GREATEST News Ever = HIS Gospel Of The Amazing GRACE Of God!*
For ALL who have NOT YET *Been WASHED IN THE BLOOD!*
Do you Desire ETERNAL Condemnation? If so, then just please
"remain" as you are - In "UNbelief": 😢 ↓ (Luke 18 : 11-12!)
for ALL others who wish to be "humble" ♫😇↑ (Luke 18 : 13-14!):
*FAITH Cometh By hearing, And hearing By The Word Of God!:* Amen?:
*(ALL Scriptures From God's Preserved WORD = KJV! ##)*
*The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God! = God's ETERNAL Salvation! By:*
100% faith (heart belief, trust!) in *The LORD JESUS CHRIST,*
*In HIS Blood, And In HIS Resurrection! = God's ETERNAL Life!!*
*(Romans 10 : 17; 1 Corinthians 15 : 1-4 And Ephesians 2 : 5-10!)*
*Good Works Will Not Save you, But Will Get you Rewards At:*
*The Judgment Seat Of CHRIST! (1 Corinthians 3 : 8-15!)*
***Note1: Verse 15! Teaches ETERNAL SALVATION "Despite Loss!"***
***Note2: IF you just BELIEVED This AND your Are The LAST "member"*
*Of The Body Of CHRIST, we Are Going To Be Raptured Outta Here,*
*so, learn This Right NOW, And you Will Receive A crown At Judgment!:***
*"Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness,*
*Which The LORD, The Righteous Judge, Shall Give me At That Day:*
*And not to me only, but unto All them also that love HIS Appearing!"*
*(2 Timothy 4 : 8!)* Amen?
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IF you are in any "religion" with ONE "false doctrine," it is UNclean!,
Please *Obey God, WHO Commands:*
*"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, Saith*
*The LORD, And touch not the unclean thing; and I Will Receive you,*
*And Will Be A Father Unto you, and ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters,*
*Saith The LORD Almighty!" (2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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Therefore:
*God's ETERNAL Salvation Is THE Best Motivation For "true"*
*believers to serve God "out of love," being SAVED For ETERNITY!*
rather than "serving out of FEAR" of "losing Probationary" salvation!:
*"For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,*
*And of love, and of a sound mind!" (1 Timothy 1 : 7!)*
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continued in Part 2: *God's ETERNAL Salvation!...*
Part 3: *ALL Of God's ETERNAL Salvation! SCRIPTURES! = 80!*
*LORD JESUS, we humbly ask that This Presentation Of THY*
*Wonderful Doctrine From THY Precious And HOLY Word will*
*be an Encouragement And Blessing to many For The Honor*
*And Glory Of THEE And THY HOLY And Precious Name.*
Amen.
Total *"Plain And Clear Passages"* ( ALL From The *KJV* ):
*FOR God’s ETERNAL Salvation:*
Found in God’s “Prophetic” Program, Under *HIS Law = 35!:*
*Everlasting Or Eternal Life!* - believest thou this?:
Daniel 12 : 2; Matthew 19 : 16, 29, Mark 10 : 17, 30; Luke 10 : 25, 18 : 18;
John 3 : 15-16, 36, 4 : 14, 5 : 39, 6 : 27, 40, 47, 54, 68, 17 : 2;
1 John 1 : 2, 2 : 25, 3 : 15! (21)
*JESUS, The Author Of ETERNAL Life,*
*Plainly And Clearly Proclaimed:*
*“Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth MY Word,*
*And believeth on HIM WHO Sent ME, hath everlasting life,*
*and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from*
*death unto life!” (John 5 : 24!)* (1) (22)
Shall *NEVER* see death! John 8 : 51! (1) (23)
*And whosoever liveth and believeth in ME Shall Never die!*
*Believest thou this?* John 11 : 26 (1) (24)
belief/baptism = *Shall Be Saved!* Mark 16 : 16; Acts 2 : 38 (2) (26)
*Father Gave HIS Saved To HIS SON/CHRIST Will Lose None!*
John 6 : 39, 8 : 9, 17 : 12 (3) (29)
*CHRIST “KNOWS” HIS ETERNALLY Saved/nothing plucks*
*them Out Of The Father’s, Nor The SON’s, Hands!* (3) (32)
*(John 10 : 27-29!)*
*CHRIST, The Omniscient Almighty God, “Knows the hearts”*
*of those who do Not believe, And Will “Declare To them” In*
*Future Judgment, HE "NEVER Knew" workers of iniquity!* (3) (35)
*(Matthew 7 : 21-23!)*
*God’s ETERNAL Life, Plain And Clear Passages, Under the LAW: (35)*
*Rightly Divided From GRACE...*
sorry, since you "cannot" see More *Than THREE "Reply Boxes," this will be continued tomorrow, so
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to be cont'd In...................... Part 4: *ALL Of God's GRACE Scriptures!*
Part 6: *Approval Unto God!:*
Previous "study!:"
Salvation / Commission In *God's "Law/Prophetic Program!"*
{friend, do you "think" this is for you "Today"?} *Or is...*
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From *CHRIST To HIS TWELVE,* _on the earth!_
*Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2 : 15!) From **_“Things That DIFFER!”:_*
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *...Or Is This FOR us Today?:*
*From CHRIST To HIS ONE, **_From Heaven!!_*
*God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS "Revelation Of The MYSTERY!"*
*God’s “Heavenly Hidden” Purpose BEFORE “the foundation of the world”*
*(Ephesians 1 : 4!)*
*Kept Secret “since the world began”*
*(Romans 16 : 25; Ephesians 1 : 4-11, 3 : 5-9!)*
*(2) **_Representative_** apostle + number! For:*
*God’s Revelation Of GRACE In HIS MYSTERY,*
*From CHRIST, In HEAVEN, To:*
{ Friend, IF you have NEVER prayerfully/carefully “studied”
*This Important Doctrine ( Paul’s **_“Distinctive”_** ministry From God! )*
before, Please take some time for *”Approval Unto God!,”* Please? }
*Paul, Chosen By God, as ONE individual apostle,*
*BOTH Roman and Hebrew,*
*(Acts 9 : 6, 15, 13 : 2, 20 : 24, 22 : 1-15, 21, 25-28, 26 : 17-18;*
*Philippians 3 : 5; Romans 1 : 1, 11 : 13, 15 : 16-18;*
*Galatians 1 : 15, 2 : 7-8; Ephesians 3 : 1; 1 Timothy 1 : 11, 2 : 7;*
*2 Timothy 1 : 11!), **_represents:,_*
*Reconciliation, By GRACE (2 Corinthians 5 : 17-6:2!), of*
*BOTH Jew and Gentile, as “INDIVIDUALS,” Into “ONE New Man!”*
*(Ephesians 2 : 15-16!)*
*SPIRITUALLY Baptized ( And "Spiritually United as*
*_members of one another!"_** ), BY: ONE Baptism!*
*(1 Corinthians 12 : 13 cp Ephesians 4 : 5!), Into:*
*Into ONE Body, In HEAVEN!,* ...
... *[ By The DEADLY, But Amazingly Wonderful CROSS! ] Of CHRIST,*
*The Risen And Glorified SAVIOUR, The Only HEAD Of HIS Church!!*
*(Acts 22 : 27-28; Philippians 3 : 5; 1 Corinthians 12 : 13;)*
*(Ephesians 2 : 11-16, 4 : 1-6!, 5 : 30!)*
*Praise HIS Precious NAME!* Amen?
*The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God!:*
*“For I [ Paul! ] delivered unto you first of all That Which I also received,*
*How That CHRIST Died For our sins According To The Scriptures;*
*And That HE Was Buried, And That HE Rose Again the third day*
*According To The Scriptures!” (1 Corinthians 15 : 3-4!)*
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*"For By GRACE are ye SAVED Through faith; and that not of yourselves:*
*It Is The Gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast!"*
*( Ephesians 2 : 8-9! cp Most of Romans through Philemon! # )*
*{ GRACE **_Found_** 85 Times! }*
*And, The MYSTERY **_Includes_** The LORD’s "Greater" GRACE Commission! =*
*Ministry of RECONCILIATION!*
*"And all things are of God, Who Hath Reconciled us To Himself By*
*JESUS CHRIST, And Hath Given To us the ministry of reconciliation;*
*to wit, That God Was In CHRIST, Reconciling the world Unto Himself,*
*Not Imputing their trespasses unto them; And Hath Committed Unto us*
*The Word Of Reconciliation!*
*Now then we are ambassadors for CHRIST, as though God Did Beseech*
*you by us: we pray you in CHRIST’s Stead, be ye reconciled to God! For*
*HE Hath Made HIM To Be sin For us, WHO Knew no sin; that we might be*
*made the righteousness of God In HIM!*
*We then, as workers together with HIM, beseech you also that ye receive*
*not The GRACE Of God in vain! (For HE Saith, I Have Heard thee in a time*
*accepted, and in the day of salvation have I succoured thee: behold, now*
*is the accepted time; behold, NOW IS THE DAY OF SALVATION!!)”*
*(2 Corinthians 5 : 18-6:2!)*
End:
*God’s Salvation And Commission In HIS Revelation Of The MYSTERY!*
Friends, after “comparing” Law vs *GRACE!* Which is FOR us Today? Or...
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...are they BOTH FOR us, today, in which case we ask:
ALL The "NUMBERS experts" know there is
A Vast "Difference" Between 12 AND *"ONE,"* Correct?
Would not “Choosing” BOTH Make This Fatal ERROR, & we can just stay with
the "Modern" "wonderful And marvelous" 2000-year-old judeo/christian "combo":
(1) LAW + *(2) GRACE* = (3) "religious Confusion Of Contradictions"
{ or, "Pick & Choose!" } Method...
..."remaining" as:
a weak And _Severely Divided_ *Church, Displeasing God!,* Correct?
Friends, "which" of these "gospels" do "you Believe," In
*God's Age of GRACE "Today," Are CURSED By God!*
*(Galatians 1 : 6-9!)???*
*(2) Gospel of GRACE!* || (1) gospel of the kingdom, (3) “Combo gospel”
IF your "particular" group "subscribes" to (1) OR (3), Please,
*Obey God, As HE "Beseeches"!:*
*"Wherefore Come Out from among them, and be ye separate,*
*Saith The LORD, And touch not the unclean [ ACCURSED!? ]*
*thing; and I Will Receive you, And Will Be A Father Unto you,*
*And ye Shall Be MY sons and daughters, Saith The LORD Almighty!"*
*(2 Corinthians 6 : 17!)*
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*LORD JESUS, we humbly pray that Any And ALL confused over the*
*"Division of Many Over salvation/baptismS/commissionS,” have been*
*Truly Blessed With This **_Solving The Confusion_** study! Amen.*
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*GRACE/Repentance, Through Faith, & PEACE, Found In SCRIPTURE,*
*to The Honor And GLORY Of GOD, The Father, Through The LORD And*
*SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST!* Amen?
cont'd *In Closing!...*
Let’s hope no one is ever a thief on a cross, moments before they are about to die, in order to “work out their salvation”.
That’s true, the thief didn’t have time to do that, but what about us? I struggle with sin and feel that Jesus will deny me like how He said in Matthew 10:32-33
Salvation is permanent
Paul Grimm , Thank you for succinctly stating the truth.
For those who remain in Christ.
@@calvinpeterson9581
the Lord will never leave us or forsake us
Except when you give it up through your own free will. Note what Paul wrote TO THE CHURCH in Rome (in other words those who were saved) in Romans 11:
So do not become proud, but fear. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off
It's an unavoidable conclusion. Those who believe and are grafted into the tree of life can be cut off.
@@humblelowlyservantofthemos1095
If us refers to those who remain in him by faith then I absolutely agree.
One of the best responses I've ever heard! I totally agree!
Well great....I believed since I was child and have re-confirmed my faith time and time again; but now I doubt my own salvation because I sin and have backslidden and repented, wash, rinse repeat.. Thanks.
I think Jesus will finish what He has started in us if we truly accept Him and believe in Him.
John 8:31; "if we CONTINUE in his word, THEN we are has disciples indeed." You cannot "continue" in something unless you were INVOLVED in that thing to BEGIN with. Think on this.
@@raygabrelcik2578 involved in that thing to begin with? Read my comment again then.
@@raygabrelcik2578 phillipians 1:6
@@raygabrelcik2578 if you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You will continue in His Word. Take me, i was a criminal, a thief beyond belief. Now i wouldnt dare to steal a paper clip. So the Lord has started His work and He will finish it because i truly accepted Him.
@@raygabrelcik2578
Good point, Ray and the conjunction IF shows that we have the choice of continuing or discontinuing in a committed relationship with Him. In the same way, even though I am committed to my wife in the bonds of matrimonial covenant I, nevertheless, I must choose to continue in that relationship. Our relationship is not unconditional. I can choose to break it at any time by committing adultery. If I were to pursue that course of action I would not be able to remain in my marriage covenant with her. It seems that some people in "hypergrace" antinomianism want an OPEN marriage with Jesus as if God had changed His mind about allowing us to have "other gods before Him"
“Once Saved always Saved?”
“Calvinists, who deny that salvation can ever be lost, reason on the subject in a marvelous way...
They tell us, that somehow....
No virgin’s lamp can go out...(Matthew 25:8)
No promising harvest can be choked with thorns...(Matthew 13:7)
No branch in Christ can ever be cut off for unfruitfulness...(John 15:6)
No pardon can ever be forfeited...
(Matthew 18:32)
They say that no name can be blotted out of God’s book!
(Revelation 3:5; Exodus 32:33)
They insist that no salt can ever lose its savour...
(Matthew 5:13)
That nobody can ever...
“receive the grace of God in vain”... (2 Corinthians 6:1)
“bury his talents”...(Matthew 25:18)
“neglect such great salvation”... (Hebrews 2:3)
trifle away “a day of grace”... (James 5:5)
“look back” after putting his hand to the gospel plow...
(Luke 9:62)
Nobody can “grieve the Spirit” till He is “quenched,”... (Ephesians 4:30; 1 Thessalonians 5:19) and strives no more, (Romans 11:21,22)
nor “deny the Lord that bought them”...
(2 Peter 2:1)
nor “bring upon themselves swift destruction.”.. (2 Peter 2:1)
Nobody, or body of believers, can ever get so lukewarm that Jesus will spew them out of His mouth... (Revelation 3:16)
They use reams of paper to argue that if one ever got lost he was never found. (John 17:12)
that if one falls, he never stood. (Romans 11:16-22 and Hebrews 6:4-6)
if one was ever “cast forth,” he was never in, and “if one ever withered,” he was never attached to the vine and once green. (John 15:1-6)
and that “if any man draws back,” it proves that he never had anything to draw back from. (Hebrews 10:38,39)
that if one ever “falls away into spiritual darkness,” he was never enlightened. (Hebrews 6:4-6)
that if you “again get entangled in the pollutions of the world,” it shows that you never escaped. (2 Peter 2:20)
that if you “put salvation away” you never had it to put away, (Hebrews 10:35; Psalms 51:11)
and if you make shipwreck of faith, there was no ship of faith there!! (1 Timothy 1:19)
In short they say: If you get it, you can’t lose it; and if you lose it you never had it.
May God SAVE US...
from accepting a doctrine, that must be defended by such fallacious reasoning!”
~ John Wesley
Parable of Sower - Matthew 13:21 says you can lose it.
Those who "seemingly lost it" were never saved in the first place.
Can you lose YOUR Salvation? Not everyone else? Stop pointing the finger at everyone else? Can you ?!! Its ok I know the answer ...it's funny that when it's you , you can't because your a super Christian..and YOU BETTER be perfect ...have u ever lusted of a woman in your heart? Have u ever said to your brother Raca? I know the answer ...by your own doctrine You Are lost !!!! Stop beating God's sheep you white washed tomb... Edify the body...u are accomplishing nothing Titus 1:10 your an idle talker and your mouth must be stopped!!!!! Look at yourself worry about yourself ...get right with God before you come and babble nonsense and don't know the heart of the Father...You act like His mercy endures for the moment...take this rebuke seriously....metanaeo- change your mind,repent..Your cruel and your hurting people and you don't know
@@luketrim2710 Good point Luke! Easy answer - FEAR - a healthy Godly fear, as Rom. 11:20-22 says.... they [the Jews] were broken off for their unbelief, but you [saints who were saved] stand by your faith. [be faithful!] Do not be conceited, but FEAR; 21 for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you either. 22 Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise YOU also will be cut off -- Perfect NO! Forgiven YES and walking in the LIGHT! :)
Numbers 22:19-22 psalm 22:6 psalm 32:1 Leviticus 16:34 psalm 35:9 psalm 37:23-24 psalm 136 isaiah 45:22-25 44:17 26:12 53 whole chapter 54:9 John 1:12 , 3:16-18, 3:36, 5:24, 6:27,6:33,6:37, 6:39,6:44,6:57,8:12,8:52,10:5,10:9,10:14,10:28,14:19-20,16:27,17:24,20:31,Acts 10:43, Romans 3:24,5:1,5:17,6:23,8:1,10:8-13,Ephesians 1:3-6,2:8-9,2:14,colossians 1:14 Romans 5:1 is in Greek perfect tense have access by faith and we stand ...perfect tense what's that mean? Oh glad u asked one time act never to be repeated with on going results into the future same with Jesus saying " it is finished " perfect tense haha go study your Greek boys ..and oh btw I left so many scriptures out if you can find more scriptures about losing your salvation come at me...MIC DROP ...HOLD MY BIBLE MOMENT
One can lose joy for a while
Even Elijah fell into despair
God revived him
Elect vessels can't lose their
Salvation otherwise god wouldn't
Have what he paid for
Ransomed with the precious blood
Of jesus
I did not came to Jesus to live my life on fear, feeling like walking on eggshells due to the fact of the fear of loosing my salvation,
Chris Raynor Yes! But you are bought with a price. You can’t buy yourself back. You are God’s own, forever. He justifies the ungodly and counts their faith in Him as righteousness!
Erick please don’t be discouraged!!
NOTHING CAN EVER take you away from the Love of God found in the Man Christ Jesus. There’s isn’t a post salvation checklist. Or else how did millions and millions of people who just heard the word and accepted Jesus and then went off about their lives get to heaven? They couldn’t read scripture and Christian communities were hard to find at times. So were they saved? Yes. They were reborn at that INSTANT and began a walk with God. You can’t be re-unborn. You are a new creature in Christ Jesus. Every other verse they pull out is speaking in another context. Take it from Jesus Himself, whosoever believes in Him SHALL NOT perish but have everlasting life. I’ll take Jesus word over a out of context quote from Paul any day.
Lstknt yes but Jesus himself said numerous times to the people "go on and sin no more" note that he did not say "go on and live life as you please" .. Go on and sin no more came from Jesus himself not Paul.
Radiantly Rebe if someone says he is without sin he is a liar, so Christ died in vain?
Lstknt no he did not died in vain. We believe and accept Jesus but there's gotta be repentance in our lives. We come to Christ as we are but we don't stay as we are. We are not perfect but we gotta try to live a holy life, Jesus knows that we are not going be as pure as he is but he will see that you are trying to live a holy life.
People who believe in the OSAS doctrine are just kidding themselves.
Would you tell me that a homosexual who believed in his heart yet continue his Sodom n Gomorrah lifestyle inherit the kingdom of heaven?
Or what about that man who accepted Jesus in his heart yet he continues to abuse and hit his wife and kids at home, will he go to heaven?
Or what about the man who continuously cheats on his wife? Will he go to heaven just because he at the moment believes in Jesus?
People only chooses to see one part of the word of God but discards the parts they don't like. We cannot pick and choose. Christianity is not to discourage anyone. If you love Jesus you will take up your cross and follow him. Period.
We don't feel obligated to change our lives for him. He transforms us from the inside out. The things that we loved more than God in this world no longer we desired.
OSAS was invented by people who desired the things of this Earth more than Jesus so this doctrine gave them a way to be free of doing whatever they wanted. A freedom ticket to their fleshly pleasures.
If you don't believe this then try opening your heart to the possibility that it might be true, do a one day or three day fasting for God to show you this.he will if you desire to know with all your heart.
I say this to you in love.
If you need help in prayer, I'm here too.
God doesn't want anybody to be confused and no one should be willing to bet their eternal life on the beliefs they have right now.
Trust me brothers and sisters, even when I thought I was right I still needed confirmation that I was believing the truth and that I was living in it so I seek God for myself with a true desired to know and he was so wonderful and merciful that he showed me.
Seek and you will find, ask and he will give you the answer.
God bless you.
Radiantly Rebe I respectfully disagree, however I don’t doubt your salvation. Honestly I find that people who find themselves desiring God out of nowhere while watching TH-cam... who out of nowhere get verses stuck in their heads and follow up on it...who in their hearts seek God during times of trouble and also with likewise joy thank Him during the good... who are concerned about their salvation but yet are nicean in their belief and want to please God... those people are saved. Sin is sin and Christ’s end of the deal was to save us from past present and future sins.
Satan wants us to doubt our salvation and even without satan doubt is part of faith. Otherwise it’s knowledge.
I just wanted to offer encouragement to those who still struggle yet believe in the Jesus of the Bible. Even if their faith is as tiny as a mustard seed.
The video A VISIT AT THE GATES OF HELL is a testimony that is an eye opener. Confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord is not asking forgiveness for sins.
@Jerry Collins you have no idea what game you are playing. Too much is going on in the world to turn a blind eye to the truth. The bible is the truth, jesus christ is God made flesh and he conquered death. So that all who believe on him should not perish but have everlasting life. Everyone will be granted everlasting life when the second coming happens every knee shall bow tongue confess jesus christ is lord. That is everyone who isn't already in heaven because the ones in heaven have already believed without seeing. One of the lies Satan has been spewing is that God will not torment his creation. Jesus already said he takes no pleasure in the sinners death but it is neccessary. God's righteousness will endure for eternity.
If a person is saved when they say the sinners prayer or make an altar call but then fall away we're told they weren't really saved". So the greater question that needs to be answered is, "What does it mean to be saved ".
1John1:7 The blood of Jesus Christ his son cleanseth us from (ALL)sin. All means All or Gods a lier! PAST,PRESENT,and FUTURE,Believe Gods Word.once Saved always Saved,you cannot unsave yourself!
That's right....Jesus cannot deny himself. OSAS is very true.
Philippians 2:12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; Doesn't sound so sure.
(1) Salvation (saves from hell) jesus did for us in the cross
(2)salvation (work to overcome this world because we are the child of God.) This doesn’t have to do with losing your salvation just save yourself from sin because we still live in the world
1. Jesus died for us on the cross and took the payed the price for the entire world's sins. It doesn't mean we can't separate ourselves from him. He is the vine, we are the branches.
Why would Paul train his evil tendencies so as to "NOT BE DISQUALIFIED" Doesn't sound like salvation is assured. It sounds like we have to do something, repent and not commit what are referred to as deadly sins and turning away before we die.
I believe when Paul said that, he was referring to his rewards. And B Boe is right, you have positional salvation, potential/experiential salvation, and then your perfect salvation. When you believe you get your position in Christ, so you are saved from the PENALTY OF SIN. Then from the point of belief until death, as a Christian you have to try and repent from sin, to go down the correct path, which is the Experiential Salvation where you are saved from THE POWER OF SIN (unless you don't follow the ways that have been set out). But you don't do this to earn the positional salvation which you got when you believed, you do it firstly to live a life as close to one that God/Christ want for us, and also, for your rewards in heaven, I don't know if you know a lot of the rewards after the rapture, but look them up if you don't. Would Paul want to miss out on receiving the crowns which we can get based on the works we do? Or when our works get tested (1 Cor 3:13) Would Paul want to see his works get burnt up? No he would want to see his works stand through the fire. So then you come to your Perceptional Salvation, now you are saved from THE PRESENCE OF SIN eternally. You get your rewards/position of rule in the Millennial Kingdom. You get your perfect fellowship with the Trinitiy. You get your complete understanding of Jesus Christ, who and what he is. And a whole lot more.
To say that we have to keep our works on track to be saved is completely against the gospel message, we trust that our Lord lived his perfect life, that he truly was God on Earth, that he died on the cross, that he was resurrected, that his sacrifice was more than enough to clear our payments for sin, and that when we believe in him, he promises to take us on the rapture, no matter what we do, because you can't go backwards from your position in Christ. Our positional salvation is a beautiful gracious free gift, that we can do nothing to deserve, and nowhere in the books of the bible for today, does it say that our loving Father will remove us from the body once we are in it.
For all of you that believe you can lose your salvation how do you explain JOHN 14:16. PART OF THE CONVERSION EXPERIENCE IS THAT YOU GET THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND HE IS WITH YOU "FOREVER " until we see Jesus 👍
I do believe you can walk away from your faith and abandon your salvation. It’s a choice to follow Jesus, also a choose to follow the world.
You are correct, "Watch." We must "continue in His word."
That’s not true it’s impossible to lose Salvation because salvation is all of God and has nothing to do with you
How can you abandon Salvation? God gives it freely to believers. Eternal Life can never end! If someone walks away then they were not truly Saved in the first place.
There is no litmus test for salvation except believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved. JESUS didn't say believe then if you manifest theses 5 things then I will for sure know you meant it.
Exactly, so many people on here are believing in a Faith + Works salvation, if they trust in that they may have a surprise coming one day. Matthew 7:21-23 'but Lord didn't we do all these things in your name?' If you believe that it is your faith plus anything then you are deceived by satan.
John 15:10
If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father's commandments and remain in His love
If we do not keep His commands we cannot REMAIN in His Love.
JimiSurvivor agreed. But we are still saved from the eternal consequence of sin. Our life may be cut short, of God may hand us over to satan for him to do what he wants with us. But our eternal salvation is still there.
THEMNMGAMER
I have not read a scripture that tells believers if they fall into a perpetual life-habit of sin (and do not repent) or if they commit apostasy and deny Christ then their lives will merely be shortened. The NT does say some people's lives were shortened because of their abuse of the Lord's supper. The scripture you cited says this:
5 hand this man [who was an immoral believer] over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, SO THAT his spirit MIGHT BE SAVED on the day of the Lord (1 Corinthians 5:5).
The question that comes to my mind in reading this verse is how Paul does not use the many simpler, clearer ways of saying they were praying for this man's DEATH or that Satan would KILL him. Instead, he uses the term "destruction of his flesh." The Greek word Paul uses, ("olethron") does not necessarily mean physical death. In fact, Thayer's Greek Lexicon says it means: "for the destruction of the flesh, said of the EXTERNAL ILLS and TROUBLES by which the LUSTS of the flesh are subdued and destroyed."
An example of "handing someone to Satan" can be found in the life of Job. In his case, GOD Himself handed Job over to Satan. What happened was that destruction of all kinds rained upon him including physical illness. The desired result of this was apparently defeating Satan and gaining a testimony for posterity. Had Job "cursed God and died," as his wife suggested, Job would not have persevered and there would not have been a redemptive outcome for him.
Next, in 1 Co. 5:5 the word translated "SO THAT" indicates that Paul had a specific purpose in mind. This aim was that the man MIGHT be saved in the Day of Judgment. The Greek verb for SAVED (sōthē) is conjugated in the SUBJUNCTIVE MOOD indicating a consequence that HAS NOT HAPPENED but has only the POTENTIAL of happening. In other words, Paul hopes that the methods employed (i.e., delivering him to Satan) will yield that result but it was by no means certain. After all, the man had a free will and may not respond to the treatment. Sometimes under duress, a person's heart can become even MORE hardened.
There is still another point to be made in 1 Corinthians 5:5. If this man (who had apparently begun as a true believer) had been saved UNCONDITIONALLY, regardless of how he lived, then handing him over to Satan would have no effect on his "spirit being saved" in the Day of Judgment. Remember, Paul's purpose was not to protect the reputation of the Church but to affect the salvation of this man on the Last Day. How can a person's PHYSICAL DEATH accomplish this unless the trial brings about repentance and restoration?
This whole scenario is inconsistent with the doctrine of OSAS which holds that since the man was already saved he would always be. Some go as far as to say that from the moment a person believes in Christ all his sins, past, present and FUTURE are forgiven. From then on, ALL his sins are "cast into the sea of forgetfulness" so that when God looks upon the person He sees only the (imputed) "righteousness of God." How could God possibly inspire Paul to point out this man's sin when, as far as God is concerned, his sin no longer existed? Would that not make them guilty of "judging?"
The Corinthian Church apparently believed that grace covered them even while they were abiding in the sin of incest. No one argued that man was a pretending believer and needed to be saved. Everyone, including Paul, assumed that he was a true believer who had nevertheless fallen into a lifestyle of sin. Most of the Corinthians overlooked it because they thought all believers live eternally in God's favor (His grace) and, apparently, unconditionally. Paul did not have that view.
@@MattTheMNMGamer Untrue; the natural outcome of a TRUE faith (not simply intellectual acknowledgment) is stated over and over in scripture.....
Yes Romans 10:9-11. I’m a Catholic and this a great summary and if you come up on somebody with 3 mins to live.
For if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and BELIEVE in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved. For one BELIEVES with the heart and so is justified and one confesses with his mouth and so is saved. For scripture says “No one who BELIEVES in him will be put to shame.”
What does BELIEVES mean it’s a very loaded word. It’s different if you have 3 mins to live to 3 days to 3 months to 3 years and 3 decades to live. You MUST BELIEVE in Christ and keep his commandments and teachings.
Gods love and grace to you all.
Never forget Romans 10:9-11 all believers in Christ should know it. Just always be able to give a account for BELIEVING!!
Thank you and God Bless you. I’m still in the Catholic Church because after much research I believe that it’s the most scriptural church most Orthodox Church and the one church Jesus Christ established even with all its faults with man the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.
Love!
Get behind me satan. That's what we need to say before clicking on these type of videos. Satan wants us to doubt our salvation. From the snare of the Fowler he delivers us. God engraved our names on the palm of his hand. Jesus broke down the gates of Hell for us. God is with us rejoice Child of God.
Well you can lose salvation. If God and He did tell me we could lose the Holy Spirit.
@@jeffouellette9946 You CANNOT lose your salvation.
Jesus cannot deny himself. Besides scripture tells us that no man can be plucked ( John 10:27-29) from the father's hand, and that once a person believes and trusts in Christ ( Ephesians 1:13,14) they are sealed by the Holy Ghost,.....and how long? Until the day of redemption! (Ephesians 4:30)
Keep scripture in context reading scripture for scripture and keep it as your final authority and you'll do well.
And if you keep saying that a person who believe and trusts Christ can lose salvation, then you are going against these scriptures I gave you and calling God a liar....
@@kathyhenderson2114 Amen sis! Greetings from Sweden. Hope you got a great church to got to. If you don't go soulwinning and would like to, then hook me up. You should look for a independent fundamental baptist soulwinning group.
Best regards and God bless
@@immanuelhavneraas Thanks....God bless you too!
I always try to do good fishing....
@@immanuelhavneraas All the glory to God!
Maybe the question is were you ever saved? I accepted Jesus along time ago but I lived in sin for years thinking I could live however I wanted but now I can say I was never saved because there was no change in my life
If you exept Jesus and believe in Him you are saved. He will always finish what He has started. So if you exepted Him once but kept living in sin, but don't anymore, He is finishing what He has started yes?
@Don Lee youre right.
Of course not! And if your saved your life has changed! I 100 %ly agree with Pastor Laurie!
No u cannot lose salvation . Not one of you will be lost.
Frank Crawford Sir are you aware that God gave all humanity the ability to make a decision/power of choice? he doesn’t force you to do any thing.when you carefully read John 3:16 that “whosoever believe in him” is on the basis of decision, acceptance. Question Were the Children of Israel saved when they were delivered from Egypt? In the wilderness those 40 years did some lose their Salvation?
Frank Crawford
While I was with them, I protected and preserved them by Your name, the name You gave Me. Not one of THEM has been lost, except the son of destruction, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled
(John 17:12)
When Jesus said "THEM" what group of people was He referring to of which Judas Iscariot had been a member? Was He saying He kept absolutely everyone who had ever believed in Him? This could not be true as Judas himself was the exception. Perhaps when He referred to "those the Father had given Him" He meant only the disciples who, as it happened, were with Him at the time.
“If you confess with your mouth ‘Jesus is Lord’ and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead you will be saved. For it is with your mouth that you confess and are justified, and with your heart you believe and are saved.” -Romans 10:9,10.
PERIOD. END OF STORY.
That is 100% true on how to be saved, but the question is can a person lose their salvation. The answer is yes, they can. Rev; 22:19 I think, speaks of God removing people’s name from the book of life, if they take from the words of the prophecy of the Bible. There are also other references of God blotting out peoples names from the book of life.
Don Lee Some people believe that once they get saved, then they can live any way they want. Many people are in hell now because of this lie. The point is he never addressed the issue of Christians losing their salvation. No one can fool God about their salvation., so if their name was in the book of life to start with, they were saved, no doubt, and God is not going to remove someone’s name from the book by mistake. He danced around the question like most preachers today. Telling people what they want to hear..
@@bobbybowers356 Its so sad that people like you go around telling things like.... people will believe that once they get saved that they can live any way they want. We all will....why cause we still have this flesh and NO GOOD thing comes from it! You still lie....and you know it.
let me tell you something.....the problem with that is that some will, but what's most important is that it says in the bible in 1st Corinthians I believe, that old things have passed away and behold all things become new. In other words a changed person via Jesus Christ taking out the old heart and putting in a new one called an operation made without hands. Col. 2:11
Jesus transforms the person....and if they do things wrong it's because they are in this flesh, no man on this earth is perfect, only Jesus was perfect. And therefore if Jesus be in a believers heart then they are saved until the day of redemption Ephesians 4:30.
Also Jesus being in a saved person...Jesus cannot deny himself and also keeps that person saved until the day of him! Philippians 1:6
6 Being confident of this very thing, he that which hath begun a good work in you WILL perform it until the day of Jesus Christ.
A person who believes and trusts on Christ....what part of you thinking they will go around living anyway they want if Jesus is in their heart? Only God knows mans hearts.
In the book of James many take those scriptures and say see,....their faith without works is dead. Well all that means (cause it's talking to saved people) is that they are not performing "good works" for others....and therefore that faith is dead, not for salvation. See....the book of James is for the eyes of men, but not for God, cause in order for men to see if they think someone is saved is by what they do, but for God...He knows each and every persons heart.
So with Jesus being in a persons heart....I'm positive that they hate sin, just as God does.
Jesus cannot deny himself, He remains faithful and you cannot take away scripture in Romans 10:9-11...cause it's truth!
Kathy Henderson you must be one of those people like me, because you agreed to what I said. You stated we all will. In the Bible it speaks of people having their name taken out of the book of life. And these people would not have their name in the book to start with unless they were actually saved. Unless they fooled God, or He put their name in the book by mistake. And we know that won’t happen. So then we know if anyone had their name in the book of life they were saved. And God would not remove someone’s name from the book if they were still saved. So that shows people can loose their salvation.
@@bobbybowers356 Everyones name starts out written in.
But will be blotted out for unbelief
Yes of course.Jesus Himself in the book of revelation,when describing the 7 type of churches,says He will remove names from the book of life.
Welp this surprisingly changed my mind
What do you mean?
@@dannyjohn179 I was talking about if a Christian can lose their salvation I take it back tho
Ephesians 1:13 Ephesians 4:30 Hebrews 13:5 John 6:37 John 6:39 John 6:47 John 5:24 If you have ever trusted Jesus as your savior, you are saved forever. If our salvation depended on how we live we would be our own savior. Our salvation depends on what Jesus did for us plus nothing.
Many are going to stand before the Lord and tell Him about all their good works. Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus tells them depart from me I never knew you. Why? They never trusted Jesus alone plus nothing to be saved and never received the free gift of the Holy Spirit. Jesus knows His own by His Spirit in them. Most are trusting in what they do and have never trusted Jesus alone We have to many false teachers telling people if they live without sin and do good works it is a sign they are saved. Those of us that know we are saved know it is only because of Jesus finished work on the cross plus nothing from us. Jesus paid it all and we paid 0. Romans 11:6 and Romans 4:5 Many have never trusted Jesus and are trusting in what they do to be saved. We can only be justified by faith, not by works.
Those that are trusting in their works, are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus plus nothing are saved and have eternal life. John 3:36 Those that are trusting in what they do are under the wrath of God.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know ye have eternal life. John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck the out of my hand. OSAS
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace ye are saved, (what Jesus did for us) through faith, (when we believe the gospel, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) and that not of yourselves, it is the GIFT of God, not of works, (what we do or do not do) lest any man should boast. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.
The only thing you have to do to be saved is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ as the only way to be saved. He is the narrow way because their is no other way.
If there was any other way to be saved than what He did for us, then Jesus died in vain.
For God so loved the world, (everybody) that He gave His only begotten Son, (Jesus) that WHOSOEVER, (anybody) that believeth in Him, WILL NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. No one can save themselves.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and ALL that cometh to me I WILL IN NO WISE CAST OUT. John 6:39 Jesus has never lost one.
jim kraft hebrews 6:4 and the book of Jude disproves your opinonated false doctrine Jude 1:1.... to the sanctified... aka cristians Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called: Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied. Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:1-4 KJV
Hebrews 6:4 agrees with Ephesians 1:13 That when we are sealed by the Holy Spirit at the time we believe, it is impossible to fall away because Christ was once crucified once and for all for all sin. First John 2:2 And He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only, but for the sins of the whole world. Salvation is a free gift of God to everyone that believes that Jesus paid our sin debt in full.
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me, will come to me, and all that cometh to me, I will in no wise cast out. John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word and believeth on Him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into judgement, but is passed from death unto life. Contending for the faith is contending that what Jesus said is true.
It says that those who have trusted Jesus for salvation hath eternal life. If we have eternal life, how long is it? Eternal is forever. It is not temporary or probationary ,but eternal life.
Jesus said, John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
First John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. .
Ephesian 4:30 And grieve not the Spirit in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption
Every one that has the Holy Spirit in them belong to Him who saved us by grace. We are the children of God. John 1:12 But as many as received Him to them gave He power to become the Children of God, even to them that believe on His name.
Romans 8:9 Those without the Holy Spirit in them are not saved. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the lord, how he said, John indeed baptized with water, but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, (everybody) that He gave His only begotten Son, (Jesus ) that WHOSOEVER (anybody,) that believeth in Him, will not perish, but have everlasting life. Everlasting is everlasting. That means forever to everyone that believeth, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Romans 1:16
To contend for the faith is to believe what Jesus said.
jim kraft
Totally agree with OSAS. HEB 6:1 Therefore. What is the context of Therefore? It is HEB chapters 1-5, showing Jesus is better than the law, scriptures, aka OT.
HEB 6:1-3, is refers to believers, while 4-6 refers to unconverted hearers or persons who heard, experienced the word, saw miracles, but walked away. The rest falls in place.
Salvation. is an event like graduation or a championship. No one ever take those away from me. How much better is my salvation?!
Now, sanctification is a process that ends in justification when Jesus comes the second time.
I am saved from the penalty of sin bc of Christ.
I am being saved from the power of sin bc of Christ.
I will be saved in the end from the presence of sin bc of Christ bc I will be in heaven with Him.
You can certainly ruin your testimony and witness to Christ useless living, but you cannot lose your salvation. Otherwise, the Son wasted his time coming to earth, performing miracles, living a perfect life, dying on the cross, staying in the grave for 3 days, rising up, as he promised, and was seen by over 500 witnesses, according to the gospel, written by the chief sinner, the Apostle Paul. He who began the work in me, will finish the work in me. As Paul asked the Galatians, "Who bewitched you, those who are anti-OSAS?"
maki kuzu See my reply to OSAS.
Amen, So well said pastor Greg 🙏🙏 praise God 🙏🙏❤️
YOU CANNOT LOSE WHAT YOU DID NOT HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE. IF SOMEONE IS TRULY SAVED, FOLLOWS AND OBEY GOD'S COMMANDS, THEY WILL NOT LOSE THEIR SALVATION.
But what if they don't obey?
@@holzmann- Thank you for your question. When you think about it, you have to ask yourself. "why would anyone not try to obey God's word if, they are truly regenerated, changed, and are living in Christ? In my own experience, I cannot imagine not wanting to obey His word. I am not talking about perfection. I am talking about being convicted by the Holy Spirit when we do make mistakes. Not everyone who professes to be is truly saved. We are saved by God's grace, however, we have to come to complete repentance and follow God's Word. So, not obeying God's word, is evidence that someone is not truly born again of the Spirit of God. If we are not born again, we do not have salvation.
@@holzmann- Did you always obey your parents growng up? Did they cast you in hell or correct you. They must of loved you & corrected you seeing you posted here.