Billy Graham was a false teacher who claimed that there will be Muslims and Hindus in heaven as Jesus is not the only way to heaven. This is heresy and Graham was an abomination. Religious deception is more dangerous than atheism. Jesus is the only way to heaven, by being born again and following Him.
I just came across this today. Wow, thank you so much. Definitely what I needed to hear. I backslid and now am working on getting my life back on track with God
First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. We are all sinners to a degree, because we cannot be made perfect in the flesh. It is our soul/spirit that is saved. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. Jesus paid our sin debt in full on the cross so we can never be condemned again. John 3:18. Romans 3:26-28. We have nothing to boast in because we did nothing for it but believe on Jesus for the free gift. John 6:40. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on Him, may have eternal life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. See you in heaven Julie. We all backslide. Any one who says different is self righteous, not the righteousness of God that He imputes to our account. Romans 4:5-6.
What does repentance have to do with the free gift of eternal life? Repentance is believing on Jesus. It is simply going from unbelief to belief. John 3:18. Acts 16:31. Romans 1:16. First Corinthians 15:1-4. John 6:47. For the GIFTS and the calling of God are without repentance. Irrevocable, can not be changed back. John 1:12. Once we believe or accept Jesus payment for all our sin, we become a child of God. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. John 10:28-29. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we are deceived and the truth is not in us. We have to be as righteous as God To go to heaven. Romans 4:5-6. Ephesians 1:13-14.
@jim kraft you need to read the Book of Acts. You are dead wrong. Grace is only given to those who repent their sins and turn from their evil ways. I really feel for those who have been taught wrong. It'll be too late when you are facing judgment.
Laodicia was a church, yet they were told they’d be spewed from His mouth. There’s a necessary holiness that the modern church has distilled with an inappropriate comfort. Revelation 22 speaks of a church that is clothed with their righteous acts for the wedding…righteous acts that are made possible thru His grace and the salvation assured to those who believe. Lord, let us hold fast to Jesus, and completely turn from unrighteousness in devotion to God.
Pastor Greg.... You haven't lost your great teaching style, your humour, your strong, clear voice....I've listened to you since i first got saved, in 1990! You are definitely one of my favorite pastors! Thank you for being sharp, smart, teaching very clearly from the Holy Scriptures, and funny too! I'm deeply grateful to the Lord that we still have you with us in sharp, colorful technicolor! May the grace, wisdom and joy of the Lord fill your spirit, forever! Shalom! 💜🕊💜✡️✝️💜🕊💜
The Bible says nothing can take us out of the hands of God. Nothing can separate us. It says it is a free gift. No where in the Bible does God say he takes salvation back. God is not a liar! We are saved and sealed until the day of redemption. That is why Christ went to the cross. Thank you, Lord! ❤️ ✝️
It only refers to God's children who chose to follow Him all the time. They can make a mistake or even sin, then they repent, get up, and keep following Jesus. But it's not related to those people who deliberately choose to sin, even if they call themselves Christians. If a person decides to abandon the gift of eternal life, then God is not going to force anyone to keep it. God gives everyone freedom every minute of their lives. So, we have to be very careful and wise about our choices. Because wrong choices can bring us to the point where we may choose to abandon the gift from God. There are tons of warning about it in the Bible. Pastor Greg Laurie mentions some of them.
Hebrews 10:26-31 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Unless we willingly and knowingly walk away. Like that parable of the seeds. Some hear the message and accept the gift of salvation, but because it wasn't planted in good solid soil it withers away or is choked by sin or is uprooted at the first test of strength.
For by grace you have been saved through faith, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast. This passage says that faith is what saves us. God gives the faith to believe, not anything we do. So twice here we see that salvation is by faith and grace, both of which we physically do nothing to obtain, no action on the part of the person. If we could do something to get salvation we could “boast’. So my question is if works didn’t bring us to salvation then works can’t take it away. To say we could would be to say we had a part in first being saved.
Wonderful message, really good! Salvation is not of us or our doing, it is all what Jesus did for us. He saves us and it is finished. We may not receive much of a reward in heaven with little fruit, but we will be there none the less. Fruit is used as evidence of a believer but only God knows who are His. There are some who appeared to have fruit, but later said they didn't really know Christ, and didn't give themselves to Him till later. Jesus saves us..we can't take that away.
I thank the Lord Greg for you that he's using you and such an awesome way it's so refreshing to hear you speak and encouraging at the same time God bless .
@@bobbyrobby3600 yes no encouraging but make people doubting about their salvation. No rest, but it's doesn't mean people will continue to sin because Romans 6:1-2. Salvation and reward are 2 different things 🙏
Bring back the Erring One. James 5:19. Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, Let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
Wonderful sermon, I wish we could here those nowadays. It just occured to me that this sermon is over 9 years ago, I thought it was recent. Really opened my eyes to my relationship with Christ the Lord.
JUST SAY IT AND MEAN IT WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART. OH GOD IN HEAVEN I BELIEVE YOU HAVE RISEN JESUS FROM THE DEAD AND TODAY I CONFESS JESUS IS MY LORD FORGIVE ME OF ALL MY SINS COME INTO MY LIFE JESUS AND TODAY I ASK JESUS TO TAKE MY LIFE AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT I PRAY THIS TO THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME AMAN
No one can take the saved out of the hand of God, that means not even yourself you where bought with price that God only has but God said that if any one adds or takes any words out of his living word the Bible will be re moved from the Lamb book of life
I’m not trying to push the envelope. I’m just feeling anxious that God might not accept me if I don’t believe “enough”. Great message, thank you Pastor!
Believing means Obeying. You must keep his commandments and do what he taught. You can believe so hard your face turns blue, but it wont help you if you don't obey and keep his commandments.
Simple answer, is Juliette "Don't stop believing" amen.. With God's Holy Spirit you will prevail against the "Enemy" Luke 3:16...be baptized in the Holy Ghost and you will have the "Dunamis" Power from on high. the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus.
@Tony From Syracuse Jude 1:24 24Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you unblemished in His glorious presence, with great joy-
We accept Jesus in our heart (even faith of a mustard seed). We as humans aren’t able to be saved by our works. We are saved by the mercy and grace of Jesus’s gift taking our sins.
As a 100% unemployable, disabled veteran, there are many times I cannot attend church due to severe allergies which trigger fibromyalgia. I’m sure there may be people who wonder if I’m saved and safe in Jesus because they don’t see me at church on a regular basis. That’s why I am so thankful that I am confident in salvation and in my safe, secure eternal life and that my DADDY God is the only one who will ever judge me in that. We have to know who we are in Christ to walk in the knowledge of our eternal security. If not, the devil will dog you all day long with doubt. 🙏✝️🕊️❤️
If you are truly born again, God has purchased you with the blood of his Son. He will finish the work he started and chastise you when you sin. But if you’ve been born again then He’s taking you to heaven whether you like it or not.
I'm so glad that these sermons are on here. There is so much darkness online, and on TH-cam, it boggles my mind. I'm so glad these are on here so that people can find the hope that God has given us and the sacrifice Jesus made for us.
My beloved sister as saved as a teen, as was I, and I have good memories of us going together to Bible study and youth group and summer church camp. She lived her faith as a homemaker and mother who homeschooled her kids. Then came some health problems and chronic pain, and her social drinking slid into secret drinking. She and her husband put on a happy face for the world, but in private they fought bitterly. She divorced him and later moved in with another man. They wouldn’t marry for financial reasons. She had become the woman at the well (and I gently told her this), then she died of alcoholism. Brothers and sisters, every day I think of her and wonder about her fate. My heart is broken. I pray for God to be merciful with her, even though I know her fate either way is sealed. My only comfort is knowing God is just, and His will be done. I trust in His righteousness. Please, I beg of anyone who reads this, don’t let this happen to you. Put God above your own wants and needs. If you might be drinking just a little too much, STOP. If anyone complains about your drinking, don’t get defensive. Instead, ask God to give you the courage to be honest with yourself and others.
The man on the cross beside Jesus did not believe in Jesus but the minute he believed Jesus told him he would be in heaven with him that day. GLORY TO GOD
Yes he died in faith and a relationship. So many people started out well and gave up the relationship later tends to break up a marriage also. You can consider salvation as a marriage it is a relationship with your God through your savior Jesus christ. In fact God in the Old testament often refers to it as a relationship that he is your husband and that we were unfaithful wives.
“Salvation is not gained by moral perfection. It is a gift that comes by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-9). That in turn means salvation cannot be lost by moral imperfection. What is not at all gained by performance cannot be lost by poor performance. Salvation is about believing loyalty-trusting what Jesus did to defeat Satan’s claim and turning from all other gods and the belief systems of which they are a part.” Dr. Michael Heiser (RIP)
"For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."- 2 Peter 2:21 So YES! It will be better for those that never knew God, than to be a believer, or to have known God's righteousness, and then turn away from God.
This verse is astoundingly clear. The God we serve is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow from beginning to end. If not then his ways are not perfect which would make a liar of God because we are told his ways are perfect and just. The old covenant passed away, we now live under a new covenant. From the first covenant with Adam and Eve God demanded obedience. Why should we not now believe also that we must have obedience to the covenant with God. We have the Old Testament as an insight to the ways of God. Many examples of Gods people turning from him. Ezekiel 18 gives us a clear understanding of the judgment of God. Gods judgment didn’t pass away, we will still face God, just under a new covenant.
@@prissylovejoy702 Read 2 Timothy 3:1-9, Revelation 3:16, 1 Timothy 4:1-3, Romans 11, Hebrews 6 & 10, 2 Peter 2:1, and 1 Corinthians 11. If "Once Saved, Always Saved" is true, then does obedience become an option? When reading Phillipians 1:6 the next time, include verses 4 and 5 in context. It is not that a person can/may/might lose salvation but that such a person can be denied entrance into the Kingdom of God when Jesus comes back because they fall away AND stay away. Read the parable of the ten virgins and notice that they were waiting for the same Lord and all fell asleep but only those that were prepared for His coming were able to enter. We do not have to live in dread but why Paul mentions fear and trembling mentioned in Philippians 2:12? We are kept by the power of God through faith (1 Peter 1:3-6). We use Romans 8:31-39 to justify that we can never be separated from God but John 3:16 says that God so loved the world, so what about it? God loves all people but sin separates people from God; always has, is and will always will until Jesus comes back. We cannot depart from the faith if we were never in it.
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Bruce! My oldest and closest YT friend. Thanks for this share and for helping me stay on guard. I have learned so much from you. You truly are a loving brother through helping teach by example. I pray that you would have His joy, even during trials and tough times.
I'm growing tired I need prayer I am old now I lose things and get to mad at myself please I need prayer I keep the Sabbath I am clean from drugs I don't drink I don't watch TV or radio I only no the word I never went to school I stayed by him only Jesus blessed me I had no way to make money but God gave me a gift I could climb trees and I did great made enough to adopt 4 children but I am older now please I need prayer
Praying for you brother. That the Good Lord continue to bless, sustain and strengthen you. That His Holy Spirit empower you to remain faithful till the end.
The answer is NO. He who endures to the end will have a reward. Not salvation. if we could do one thing that would save us, then Jesus died in vain. John 6:47
Jesus's exact words (Matthew10:22): "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." So much for once-saved-always-saved.
The time of Jacob's Trouble. The antichrist that comes playing the role of Christ amongst his angels to decieve the world into thinking he is Christ. Jacob wrestled with God... Israel prevailed with God... Israel will undergo the 1st resurrection... Jacob, if they stand against Satan the second time he is loosed, may be judged worthy to take part in the 2nd resurrection. Romans 11 if you need clarification of what Israel is today! Mark 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24 warn the elect of the end-times about this event. So, in easier terms, during the transition between this world and heaven age and the next world and heaven age, Christians may be in danger of losing their crown of salvation if they worship the false messiah that comes first. See Revelation chapter 2 and 3 and take note of what he says to the churches to understand "enduring to the end." Many will be decieved. This message will also be hated amomst the majority but it is sound and true. 👍
I just want to warn anyone who wonder if you can lose your salvation, I personally had a vision while at work of me personally losing my salvation due to constant sin, the vision was clear enough to stop me in the middle of working. I don't do drugs nor drink. There is nothing more important or valuable than your personal relationship with the Lord. Don't let anyone fool you to thinking that constant sin is OK. There is nothing on this planet worth risking your relationship with Him. Please I'm begging you to stay focus and be obedient to the Lord and His will, don't be lukewarm🙏
@@kevinwiens4804 As believer we abide in Him, if people don't abide in Him mean they aren't believer. As I said you can't lose your salvation, it's doesn't mean now you are free to sin. That's stupid thinking because Romans 6:1-2.
@@waynel389 Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
First Corinthians 5:5 Turn such a one over to Satan to kill the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. This was a born again believer, Ephesians 1:13, who was sleeping with his fathers wife. Sick, He was about to lose his life, and the rewards he could have had in heaven, but the man was still saved so as by fire. First Corinthians 3:15 Only his works were burned up, but the man was still saved. So much for the fruit inspectors.
I became a Watchman in 1998. The Holy Spirit is actively calling believers to speak the truth of the coming Antichrist and the falling away of millions of saints during the great tribulation. The time is short because there are so many who have never heard this critical message: The mark of the Beast must come BEFORE the rapture of the church (Mat. 24:15, 30-31)
You can’t lose something you never earned or deserved in the first place… when you’re reborn it’s final, it’s like death in which you can’t reverse it. Once you accept Christ and truly commit your life to him, he commits his life to you and you’re married to him.
The scriptures are replete with warnings about the possibility of losing our salvation. Anyone who believes that they can't lose their salvation has been deceived by the adversary. Study your bible! It's all there.
The warnings not to be deceived and fall away or depart from the faith by Jesus (Mat. 24:4-5, 10) by the Holy Spirit (1 Tim. 4:1) by Paul (2 Thes. 2:3-4) by Peter (2 Pet. 2:1) and by John (1 John 3:7), are for believers. The unsaved can't depart from a faith they never had!
You missed the true answer, which is the Catholic interpretation. Jesus and the Apostles clearly caution that believers can sin and turn from God, and that this will separate you from God. Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:50, Luke 8:6,13, John 3:36, John 15:5-6, Romans 11:19, 1 Cor 6:9-12, 1 Cor 15:1-2, Col 1:21-23, 1 Thea 4:3-6, 2 Thes 1:7-9, 1 Tim 1:19-20, 2 Tim 2:10-13, Hebrews 3-12-14, 2 Peter 2:20-21, 1 John 1:8-10, just to name a few. All examples of when actions separated people from God and salvation is lost. The answer is sincere repentance, renewed faith, and continual following of Jesus’s commandments. This is not salvation via works, as faith is a prerequisite...but all who have true faith will follow the example of Jesus. And when we sin, as we all do, we must sincerely repent and correct our ways. This is what James meant when he says “faith without works is dead.” And Christians who abandon their faith - which can happen, we all know them - have also abandoned salvation.
@@BrownBrown270 Please read: James 5:19. Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, Let him know that ***he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death*** and cover a multitude of sins.
23:27 .... Jesus praying for me in the next room... oh what a thought !!! John 17:20 "Neither pray I for these only BUT for them also which shall believe on me through their word" says Jesus after He had just finished praying for His disciples, verses above. Oh how comforting and to keep this in remembrance. Praying for all our prodigals, as is Jesus. Amen
Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. His Holy Spirit that lives in all believers. Those that have believed His gospel, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) and by believing we are justified and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. We can no longer be condemned. John 3:18 Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30. If salvation was not a free gift, no one could be saved. We can only be justified by faith alone in Christ alone without works. Romans 11:6 If a person has to do one thing more than just believe, then it is a false gospel of works salvation, and no man can be saved by works, only by grace. If you add one work, it is not longer grace and their is no salvation. it is either all Christ, or not. There is no salvation in any other than what He did for us. Never what we do or do not do. Galatians 2:21 I do not void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. Paul said to examine yourselves and make sure you are in the faith. Not your works, not your fruit, but your faith. Have you done the will of His Father. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on Him, may have everlasting life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. How you live and what you do has nothing to do with it. Have you done the will of His Father? That is the only thing you can do to be saved. Turning from sin to God will not save you. You are still a sinner. Jesus said, ye must be born again. How do we get born again? When we believe the gospel, John 1:12 even them that just believe on His name, He seals us unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Spirit of God, in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. We have a free will until we believe. Then our free will ends as far as God is concerned. Once you believe and become a child of God, you are a child of God forever. It can not be changed back. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. It is irrevocable. God may take your life, and you can lose the rewards you could have had in heaven for eternity, but no one has ever lost eternal life. That is an oxymoron. Eternal is eternal. Make sure your salvation rests only on what Jesus has done plus nothing. Not by anything you do, but all on what he did for you. All men are sinners. The only reason men go to hell is because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 3:18 Once you believe you can never be condemned again. Unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. No where in scripture does it say, Jesus only gives temporary life. It is eternal, or it is not salvation by grace. John 10:28-29. To say you can lose eternal life is to call Gods integrity in to question. It is to say He does not keep His word. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.
Thank you for that wonderful comment, Jim. It was disturbing to hear pastor Laurie say the question of whether one can lose their salvation is hard to answer. Hard to answer?? The answer is "NO!" The bible is clear on this. It's by the power of God that we're born of His Spirit when we believe, and it is God's power that keeps us saved. Jesus promises to carry ALL saved Christians through to completion (redemption). Pastor Laurie sounds like he believes our salvation rests on our shoulders and is affected by what we do or don't do. Even when we are faithless, He remains faithful. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit UNTO REDEMPTION. OSAS is a promise of salvation. People who use scripture verses to refute OSAS are not rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
@ A person who deliberately commits a serious sin after being baptized throws away his free gift of salvation, but he can gain it back by sincere repentance and Confession.
Krissy Young so what does Hebrews 10:26 refer too? Or is that a different time period in which he’s speaking to Jews who are in the tribulation? Honest question. Thank you!
These were Jewish converts that were being pressured into going back to animal sacrifices. The blood of animals could not take away sin. Jesus is our one blood sacrifice for all sin. Notice verse 30.The Lord shall judge HIS people. They had received the free gift of eternal life, but they would be committing a great sin if they went back to animal sacrifices as though Jesus was not enough. Not that they would lose their salvation, but God does chasten His children. Even to taking our life early. We can be chastened by the Lord, and lose our rewards in heaven, but never our eternal life which Jesus paid for with His own blood sacrifice for all sin. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Irrevocable. Can not be changed back. God does not want His children living in sin, but He paid for all sin so that anyone who would believe on Him alone would be saved. Eternal life is a free gift from God by faith alone in His finished work on the cross alone. Ephesians 2:8-9 Once we trust Jesus alone for eternal life, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 1:13-14 and Ephesians 4:30 Romans 4:5-8. Faith alone apart from works. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for righteousness. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord imputeth righteousness apart from works. Blessed is the man whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. All our sin debt is paid in full by Jesus one blood sacrifice for all sin. John 3:18 Believers can never be condemned to hell again. Those that say you can lose your salvation are trusting in what they do to save themselves and are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus alone apart from works are saved forever. John 6:47 To say we can lose our salvation is to call God a liar. First John 5:13. Romans 6:23
@@krissyyoung2066 OSAS is a heresy from Kalvin. Read this. Yes you can lose your salvation. 2 Peter 2:20-22 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”
It's not about what you do or do not do. It's about your attitude. Are you taking the grace so freely given for granted? That's a dangerous place to be. As long as you are trying to serve God and have a humble attitude, you are on the right track.
Read EPH 4:30. Do not grieve the spirit of God for which you were sealed until the day of redemption. You cannot loose your salvation. If you have the holy spirit. You cannot walk away. Because the holy spirit is sealed in you.
When people confuse salvation with eternal life, the Bible appears to contradict itself. You can't lose your eternal life, but salvation you gain and lose all the time.
@@TheFightingSheepI don't know what you mean with that? Salvation means being saved, from sin& death right? So salvation means that you will live. We have to work out our salvation.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. - Romans 8:12-13 If you walk in the Spirit yesterday and walk in the flesh today, you are saved yesterday, your yesterday is eternal and can never die, but your today is lost and will never live. John 10:28 KJV - And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
@@fem0000 Galatians 3 2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Jesus died on the cross so that we can be forgiven for our sins, so that we can repent and enjoy a relationship with God now and later. Jesus is coming back.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
If they’re born of the Spirit, though their flesh walks away, Jesus will NEVER leave nor forsake them. Flesh does all kinds of crazy, stupid things thanks to Satan’s deceiving influence. The born again Christian is justified and has Christ’s eternal Spirit living in them. A birth cannot be undone. Thankfully, we’re kept by the power of God~not our own power.
2 Peter 2:21 “For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” 22 “But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
Unless ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Change your mind. Go from trusting in what you do to save you, to trusting in what Jesus did to save you. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life. You can only accept the free gift, you can not earn it. Jesus paid it all, not part. The GIFT of God is eternal life. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, not works. Good works are fine, but can not save a sinner. We can only be saved by grace. What Jesus did for us. And it is eternal life, not temporary life, or probationary life, but eternal life. If it is eternal, how long does it last? Forever and ever and ever. What if I sin all next week? Paid. Should we use grace for a license to sin? No, but when we sin. and we all do or you are only self righteous, grace abounds. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. You can not out sin grace or it would no longer be grace.
@@jesussfarmer absolutely all sin and come short. You are categorizing sin little sin and big sin. The only sin Jesus said can't be forgiven is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit
@@sidneyhill7064 There is sin leading to death and sin not leading to death. 1 John 5:16-17 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death. If someone doesn't have eternal life abiding in them are they saved? Are murderers going to suffer the second death? 1 John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him. Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” How could you say a Christian has eternal life abiding in them if they murder? Won't they die? Ezekiel 33:18-20 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.” Also isn't forgiveness conditional? Who receives mercy, those who continue in sin or those who forsake there sins? Proverbs 28:13 He who covers his sins will not prosper, But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.
@@sidneyhill7064 Not just those two. Those who live according to the flesh will die. Romans 8:12-13 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors-not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live. Galatians 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Do those who walk according to flesh stand condemned according to Romans 8:1? Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. Ezekiel 18:25-29 “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies. Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive. Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair? Ezekiel 33:17-20 “Yet the children of your people say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ But it is their way which is not fair! When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.” When king David turned to adultery and murder did he die physically? Yet the Lord says those who turn from righteousness to commit iniquity will die. Again did David have eternal life abiding in Him when he murdered? 1 John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
John 17:12-15 12"While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name (A)which You have given Me; and I guarded them and (B)not one of them perished but (C)the son of perdition, so that the (D)Scripture would be fulfilled. 13"But now (E)I come to You; and (F)these things I speak in the world so that they may have My (G)joy made full in themselves.
Titus 3: 8. This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in GOD should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men..... Jesus said to the woman..GO N SIN NO MORE.
Read vs 12 dude, If we deny him he will deny us. Gods nature is to be faithful, and this is our blessed hope. God loves us and was faithful even unto the cross. Salvation is gift, the question is can that gift be returned? I don’t believe that people lose salvation like someone might lose their keys, but can someone leave their salvation? People love the comfort of saying no to that question because in many ways it relieves our responsibility to live right. The really question is do you believe in free will? We are saved by grace through faith, that is biblical. Can you deny that grace through unbelief? Real salvation will always bear fruit of a changed life, its funny that people will just say that if you end up living like a sinner that you were never saved. I would assume that any self proclaiming Christian Right now who would start living a life of adultery or a open sin, all his Christian friends would simply say “He was never saved”, most people like to argue this point about losing your salvation, and use it to ignore disobedience now. I would say to anyone who reads this “repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” surrender your life to Jesus and live your belief! These arguments are for people who are convicted about what their not doing. If you just live for Jesus it doesn’t matter!
You definitely do have a California accent. It's a laid back, drawn out sound and the way you pronounce some of your words. Saying that, thank you for this message. I needed to hear this.
I think the majority of "backsliders" have never slid forward in the first place. You cannot lose your salvation IF it is a true conversion by the Spirit of God (born again)and not an decision of your own will alone. By definition you cannot have "eternal life" today and then not have it tomorrow or it was hardly "eternal life".
that is a nice thought, but NOT what the bible teaches. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. 21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. - 2 Peter 20-22
@@911EVERLASTINGGOSPEL Hi Bird. Thanks for writing. Salvation is so simple: those who love the Lord will be saved. However, it is important to know the definition of love. We can find out the attributes of love from I Corinthians, chapter 13. It says that 'love endures all things.' So, if someone 'loves' the Lord, but it does not endure - it was never love in the first place! The person never loved the Lord and, therefore, was never saved. Yet, those who love the Lord have a love that never fails. For example, I can honestly say that, for decades now, I have not even had a second of doubt that I know Jesus and am bound for heaven. Bird Astair, if you do not have that kind of assurance, I am concerned about your standing with God. I encourage you to ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit as described in Romans 8.16. I will pray for you as, according to the Scripture, you are not exihibiting the assurance of someone who is genuinely saved. It is yours for the asking! But you must ask with faith in the promises of God. Blessings to you and yours!
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh Be careful, George! Works are not at all necessary for salvation. For example, I have total freedom in Christ to do anything, anything my heart desires. It is written, "All things are lawful to me." However, since I know and love the Lord, what is my burning desire? It is to please my Father in everything I say and do. It is to love and reach out to the poor and broken. To proclaim the year of the Lord's favor. If I never did another thing for God, I would be just as saved as I am now. However, it is impossible for me not to do good works, as the will of God has consumed my life. So, please read the book of James carefully! He does not say that works are necessary for salvation - it is the proof OF our salvation, and there is a big, big difference! All the best to you as you serve the Lord Jesus Christ; He is the light of the world!
Brian, My young beloved brother, this is an honest man. He even said "I don't know if one can lose their salvation." No one TRULY knows because we are men. We may at times depart from the the living God, but I believe we will never be disowned. Yet ...why tinker with God's gift? I am guilty of this "tinkering"!! We must hold fast to the Gift, and love others because it is our free gift. This is saving faith. Amen? Love ya 'bro....
God says no one can take us out his hand once we saved. Then some say they can take themselves out .but no one includes us too.God keeps us saved once we saved. So we can't lose our salvation.God won't let that happen once we are saved.the bible says we are kept saved by God's power. If he left it up to us,we all would be lost. God knew that .So he promised to keep us saved forever ! Thank you Jesus !
That is the verse I stand on The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak I love the lord but we all are sinners but. I trust in God's word I have fallen many times but the Lord brings me back
Jesus says that ONLY the SHEEP are safe in His hands. So, the question is not whether one can lose their salvation or not, but are YOU A SHEEP? Jesus defines the sheep,,,, they "hear (present tense) and Follow (present tense) Him. If you cease to hear and follow (present tense) you do not have eternal life. Jesus says so!
I am 74 years old. I have seen so many people that accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, and their life change for a little bit, and then they just changed their mind of how they lived. They no longer had a relationship or contact with the Lord anymore. You teach people that all I have to do is ask Jesus into their heart and be their savior one saved always saved is a lie. He that endures to the end will be saved.
@@gailmazzotta6187 then they never had a saving, genuine faith and were seeds I planted in shallow soil. They "walked amongst us" but were never "one of us."
I grew up in reformed theology and believed once saved always saved. Then, I read the early church fathers and basically got my *ss kicked. I realized that we can lose our salvation and we are not just saved by grace but called to sanctification and called to continue in faith and walk worthy of our calling. It's not just what we have been saved from but what we have been saved to. To obey the commandments of the Son of God and "walk in the light."
I have listened to both sides of the question.....can a born again believer lose their salvation, and I should say that this pastor gave the best answer out of them all. I often wondered if a person was saved at all if they did lose it. How do you lose something you never had.
If works can't save you lest you could boast, then good works can't keep you saved, lest you could boast. The holy spirit saves you and keeps you saved. You will begin to change by his power. If you don't, then you were never saved to begin with. This analogy is apropos. A loving father walking along a busy street with his child does not let his child hold his hand because that child whether in anger or want, just might let go. No, he holds on to that child's hand. He would never let him go. And for those who think they can give up and walk away from salvation, do you think that loving father would ever let go of his child's hand and let him tin into traffic because the child gets angry enough or begs enough to be let go? No God saves us and keeps us saved because he loves us. Truly a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.
Can't a child die if not fed? And we cannot be snatched from Jesus (thank God for that) but we on our own accord can walk away, can't we? Does God force us then to stay with him? Laurie said "i don't know", and said we don't work to be saved, we just work our salvation... that is our actions are born out of our salvation. And added that even our good actions are prompted by the Holy Ghost Philippians 2:13. In the end it is a difficult question (can we lose our salvation) to answer for so many people only speak the sinners prayer without actually being repentant. That's why Laurie said we should ask if the person was saved to begin with.
@No Calvinism we don't lose our salvation. The question is if we are saved to begin with. Got a question though can people cast demons without being saved? “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV
Matthew 7:21 They never did the will of His Father in heaven. John 6:40 and John 6:29. They did not have His Spirit in them. Ephesians 1:13. They trusted in what they did to save themselves by keeping Gods laws and doing good works, but never trusted Jesus as the only way to be saved. If we could do one thing that would save us, then Jesus died in vain. We can only be saved by what He did for us, not by what we do or do not do. Those that trust in their own works are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus finished work on the cross have everlasting life. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that BELIEVETH ON ME HATH EVERLASTING LIFE. If you have eternal life today, then you will still have eternal life 1000 years from now. John 10:28-29. No one can pluck us from His hand. No, not even you. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. John 6:37 He will never cast us out. That is Gods word. He can not lie. You can lose you life, and the rewards you could have had in heaven, First Corinthians 5:5, and First Corinthians 3:15. but not your salvation which was paid for by Jesus one blood sacrifice for all sin to them that believe.
Proverbs 29:1, KJV: He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy. Proverbs 29:1, NASB: A person often rebuked who becomes obstinate Will suddenly be broken beyond remedy.
I can see where this man is coming from, and to add to his point. NOBODY who truly has this faith will give it up, and if they want to, then they never had it to begin with, and I suggest they think about their lives. Read the Parable of the Sower found in Matthew 13: Some seeds fall among the wayside, some among stones and some among thorns; some fall on the good ground and bear fruit 40, 60 and some 100 fold. Look into it and see that the good ground is where you will never WANT to give up GOD
@Mrchikenkatsu I was a born again baptised, saved by the power of the holy spirit and not by my works, christian for over 25 years. I used to lead small group bible studies. I did mission trips and worked with the youth and the drama teams at my church. I read the bible. Often. When I lost my faith I lost more than you can ever know. Wife, 2 kids...everything. The truth hurt. But I would rather belive in the aweful truth than get suckered into believing a beautiful lie.
@No Calvinism Man. David Mosier is the very example; a living witness that OSAS is just not true. I used to believe in OSAS, as Greg Laurie teaches. But it's just not true my friend. In fact, I used to go to Greg's Church in Riverside for some years, after being born again. I, to this day, still love and respect Pastor Greg. But I just don't understand how he believes this doctrine. I don't. And there are so many scripture that makes it plain that people can (1) Forfeit their salvation through a sin lifestyle, and (2) people can literally throw away their faith. David Mosier just proves what Paul warned: "Do not throw away your confidence, for it has a great recompense or reward". - Hebrews 10:35
In Revelation 22:19, it says... "If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city". So YES... we can lose our salvation, or have our part taken from the Book of Life.
Eric Claeyborn Salvation is so safe and so secure for Eternity, we know our change in following our Lord Jesus Christ is easy the old has gone the new is ours ,
@thatkidwithADHD Repent basically means to turn around ( a change of mind). it's like you are going in a certain street and you make a U-turn and drive the other way. So we are in sin and we turn around from sin and walk towards God. Repentance is to turn away from sin.
That's a very good analogy, JNPR. And once we take that U turn towards God, we are free to make another U turn back to Satan. Many do just that, which is what Jesus was talking about at Matthew 13:3-23.
You can’t lose your salvation like you lose a $20 bill or your credit card. You can walk away from it. You can also have it taken from you. John 15, the branches in the vine that don’t produce fruit are cut off and thrown into the fire. That is why we must work out our salvation.
6:35 - Greg Laurie admits HE DOES NOT KNOW if a Christian can lose their salvation. I respect that. I was in that valley for a long time. And now I'm sure: You can lose your salvation.
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
To those who diligently study the word Psalm 1. John 6:28-29. tells you God’s works. John 6:40. Tells you God’s will. Parable of the seeds, Satan is working hard in this area to many people don’t understand salvation. Often conflating it with Discipleship. It doesn’t take Satan much to get people to doubt John 3:16. The most known verse but the most misunderstood.
If someone says they are saved but are actively trying to find ways to live outside of Gods will they probably were never saved. The simplest explanation is often the correct answer.
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
@@michaelgreen9792 someone who is saved is not going to alter Gods word. This is the closest to a good argument but you have to prove this person that would be referred to is saved.
@@infinitegalaxy2079 Please read Rev 22; 19 You have to be saved to have your name written in the BOOK OF LIFE. God will take names out of the BOOK OF LIFE for many reasons.
@@michaelgreen9792 I see your point but if we are a new creation and are sealed by the Holy Spirit then how would that work? What saved person would alter Gods word knowingly and deceitfully?? I think the broader context makes this interpretation difficult. I do get your point though and I will research it more. I think it’s important not to support a doctrine that seems to be supported by only a single verse. Especially when that verse is not directly addressing the theological point. The point here is not to alter Revelation. Thanks for your input though.
@@infinitegalaxy2079 Revelation 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. James 5:19 Brothers, if any among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back let him know, that he who converteth a sinner from the error of his way shall save a SOUL FROM DEATH and shall cover a multitude of sins. O.S.A.S. Is a false teaching. Gregg Lorie also teaches if a Christian commits suicided he will go to heaven FALSE FALSE FALSE
If someone continues to sin intentionally after "getting saved" and sin doesn't bother them, were they ever REALLY saved or did they just buy "fire insurance" just in case? I know people who "got saved", and continue to sin without conscience, and then want to brag about it! I have a hard time believing that they were ever really saved. When I got saved, I could no longer continue to sin because the Holy Spirit inside me would convict my heart to where I didn't want to do the same things I used to do. He changed my heart, and changed my way of thinking and behaving. I'm still not perfect, none of us are, but when I fall, I go to my Lord and ask for forgiveness, and He is gracious to forgive. I then ask Him to help me to not sin anymore. It's about repentance, which means to change your mind/direction, and turn away (from your sin). I KNOW that I do not have the power to change within myself, but He does have the power, and DOES come to my aid when I'm about to do or SAY something that would dishonor Him. Sometimes all I can say is "Jesus, help me!", and He is there instantly to help me. Bottom line is that when you love someone, you don't want to ever do or say anything that would hurt or disappoint them.
John 3:16 promised EVERLASTING LIFE for those who believed, they will NEVER PERISH despite of their ups and downs Christian lives. Col. 2:13 says that God had already forgiven ALL our trespasses. All sins are already paid at the cross. Eph. 2:8 says that "for by grace we have been saved ( present perfect tense) through faith. . . Genuine Christians , are those who were born again, redeemed by the precious blood of Christ , sealed by the Holy Spirit, and those who were kept in the hands of the Father,(John 10:28), those who believed in him is not condemned, (Jn. 3:18). So genuine Christians will NEVER lose salvation. A true Christian will NEVER lose salvation until the end because God will sustain him by his GRACE.
Plus we may receive five crowns 👑 to lay at Jesus feet when we get there to show our appreciation for His Love and Grace. When they say Satan comes to steal and destroy. Don’t let Satan steal your crowns to lay at Jesus feet. Don’t let Satan destroy your marriage. Now you know what he steals and destroy’s.
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
If you fall away you were more likely was never saved. But you cannot lose your salvation once your are saved. Even dr charles stanley under stood that after decades of being a pastor. He said that on his ministry.
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Agree. If one is not saved despite one's profession of being a Christian, it is only because such a person was never born again in the first place. Why cannot people stomach this Gospel Truth? It is only because such a person is selfish and always suspicious of the actions of the brethren. Such a person would not like to respond to a question like: "HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU BE BORN AGAIN??" If u can lose ur salvation, how would you know that u're Heaven bound should you die suddenly? Answer that!
You only lose your salvation when you die in unrepentant sin if you repent you don't get saved again you are forgiven. But if you die living like the world in sin after being saved and don't repent you lose your salvation. Matt 24: 41-51
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Revelation 22:19 “And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
(cont) in the Bible out of context and TWISTED where they read THEIR theology into the Bible rather than letting the Bible determine their theology. The following is a short list of the most popular passages that they distort: Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26-27, John 15:2,6 2 Corinthians 13:5, Philippians 2:12, James 2: 14-26, Galatians 5:19-21, Romans 2:6-7. I was once a former living example of Heb 6:4-8 for 9 long years until the Lord chastised me to bring me back.
wtom04 how do you know He forgives you ? I’ve been in deep depression over my past of willful sins. I was “saved” when I was young but struggles with a sin off and on. Then in college I “fell away” as some would say because I got involved in a lifestyle I never thought that I would be a part of. Then even after thinking I came back to God because I got married and started going back to church praying etc I realized I still have a lot of willfull sin in my life. I’ve been reading and listening to so many taht say once you do this you can’t come back because you are recrucifyinh Christ.
Hebrews 10:26-31 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
There's many true Christians who believe you can lose your salvation, and there's many true Christians who believe you can't lose your salvation. There's many true Christians that agree with me on where I stand on the lose your salvation issue, and there's many true Christians that disagree with me on where I stand on the lose your salvation issue. A person's belief regarding whether or not they can or can't lose their salvation is not what causes them to go to heaven. Accepting Christ in your heart and meaning it in your heart is what causes someone to go to heaven when they die. Accepting Christ in your heart by just mouthing the words without meaning it in your heart doesn't save someone. Accepting Christ in your heart and meaning it in your heart is what saves someone. I believe you can't lose your salvation. 1 John 2:19 talks about how there's no such thing as an ex-Christian. If there's no such thing as an ex-Christian, that implies how you can't lose your salvation. When people say how they are an ex-Christian, what they usually mean by that is I used to believe in God, I used to go to church, I used to believe the Bible is true, I used to believe Jesus died on the cross, I used to be a fan of Christianity, etc. None of those things make someone a Christian. Believing in God, going to church every Sunday, believing the Bible is true, believing Jesus died on the cross, being a fan of Christianity, etc is not what makes someone a Christian. A Christian is someone who has accepted Christ in their heart and really meant it in their heart. Accepting Christ and meaning it in your heart means you no longer want to live for the devil anymore, you no longer want to live a lifestyle in bondage to sin (Christians still sin, still make poor choices in life, still have sin weaknesses, still are not perfect, but true Christians never live lifestyles defined by sin), you don't want to take advantage of grace, you don't want to sin so that grace can abound, you want to live for the Lord, you want to obey the Bible, and you want God in your life to help you to live for him. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they are always going to be saved according to what the Bible says. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they experience changes in their life such as never living a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin, still have sin weaknesses, are not perfect, still make poor decisions in life at times, etc, but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), wanting to live for the Lord, wanting to obey the Bible, not wanting to take advantage of grace, not wanting to sin so that grace can abound, etc. There's other Bible verses that prove you can't lose your salvation. Revelation 3 :5 talks about how when you are saved, God will never remove your name from the Book of Life, which is why I believe you can't lose your salvation. 1 John 5:13 explains how you can know for certain you have eternal life. If you can know for certain you have eternal life, that's strong evidence how you can't lose your salvation. John 10 talks about how when people are saved, no one can snatch them out of God's hand, which sounds like evidence how you can't lose your salvation.
The same verse you mentioned about your name being in the book of Life also says less your name be erased from The book of Life. It wouldn't have been there in the first place unless you'd been saved and it definitely says it can be erased.
@@gailmazzotta6187 Thanks for your comment. You do bring up an excellent and valid point. Revelation 3:5 talks about how people who overcome will not be removed from the Book of Life. On the surface and at face value, that Bible verse does appear to suggest that people can lose their salvation. I don't think Revelation 3:5 is referring to people losing their salvation even though it appears on the surface like it is talking about losing your salvation. I believe that the point of Revelation 3:5 is that true Christians are going to persevere to the end (true Christians may backslide at times but they never completely walk away from the faith), true Christians do overcome (overcoming is what happens to someone when they accept Christ in their heart and mean it in their heart due to them being a new creation like in 2 Corinthians 5:17), true Christians don't live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin at times, but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), etc. I think the point of Revelation 3:5 is how you can tell if someone's a true Christian; not that people can lose their salvation. The whole context of Revelation 3 is about how you can tell whether someone's a true Christian. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they become a Christian, they become a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin at times, they still make mistakes in life, etc but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), they want to live for the Lord, they want to serve the Lord, they don't want to take advantage of grace and forgiveness in regards to how they live their life, they're never going to walk away and abandon the faith (they may backslide at times, but they're never going to walk away and abandon the faith), they're going to persevere to the end, they're going to overcome, they're going to experience sanctification in how they live their life, etc. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they experience these positive changes in their life. This is how Christ changes people when they become saved. It's okay if you disagree with me on the losing your salvation issue. I believe a person's belief on whether or not someone can or can't lose their salvation doesn't determine whether someone is saved. There's many true Christians who agree with me on the losing your salvation issue, and there's many true Christians who disagree with me on the losing your salvation issue. There's many good people who believe people can lose their salvation, and there's many good people who believe people can't lose their salvation. I have many friends who believe people can lose their salvation, and I have many friends who believe people can't lose their salvation.
This is the kind of preaching that the world so desperately needs to hear since we lost Billy Graham
watch Billy in interview with Robert Schuler....and Larry King.....to see how he ended up...
Billy Graham was a false teacher who claimed that there will be Muslims and Hindus in heaven as Jesus is not the only way to heaven. This is heresy and Graham was an abomination. Religious deception is more dangerous than atheism. Jesus is the only way to heaven, by being born again and following Him.
I just came across this today. Wow, thank you so much. Definitely what I needed to hear. I backslid and now am working on getting my life back on track with God
First John 5:13. These things have I written unto you that BELIEVE on the name of the Son of God, that ye may KNOW YE HAVE ETERNAL LIFE. We are all sinners to a degree, because we cannot be made perfect in the flesh. It is our soul/spirit that is saved. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30. Jesus paid our sin debt in full on the cross so we can never be condemned again. John 3:18. Romans 3:26-28. We have nothing to boast in because we did nothing for it but believe on Jesus for the free gift. John 6:40. And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on Him, may have eternal life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY. See you in heaven Julie. We all backslide. Any one who says different is self righteous, not the righteousness of God that He imputes to our account. Romans 4:5-6.
@@jimkraft9445 not if she hadn't repented again
What does repentance have to do with the free gift of eternal life? Repentance is believing on Jesus. It is simply going from unbelief to belief. John 3:18. Acts 16:31. Romans 1:16. First Corinthians 15:1-4. John 6:47.
For the GIFTS and the calling of God are without repentance. Irrevocable, can not be changed back. John 1:12. Once we believe or accept Jesus payment for all our sin, we become a child of God. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. John 10:28-29. First John 1:8. If we say we have no sin, we are deceived and the truth is not in us.
We have to be as righteous as God To go to heaven. Romans 4:5-6. Ephesians 1:13-14.
@jim kraft you need to read the Book of Acts. You are dead wrong. Grace is only given to those who repent their sins and turn from their evil ways. I really feel for those who have been taught wrong. It'll be too late when you are facing judgment.
Laodicia was a church, yet they were told they’d be spewed from His mouth. There’s a necessary holiness that the modern church has distilled with an inappropriate comfort. Revelation 22 speaks of a church that is clothed with their righteous acts for the wedding…righteous acts that are made possible thru His grace and the salvation assured to those who believe. Lord, let us hold fast to Jesus, and completely turn from unrighteousness in devotion to God.
Pastor Greg....
You haven't lost your great teaching style, your humour, your strong, clear voice....I've listened to you since i first got saved, in 1990! You are definitely one of my favorite pastors!
Thank you for being sharp, smart, teaching very clearly from the Holy Scriptures, and funny too! I'm deeply grateful to the Lord that we still have you with us in sharp, colorful technicolor!
May the grace, wisdom and joy of the Lord fill your spirit, forever! Shalom! 💜🕊💜✡️✝️💜🕊💜
When put our faith in what Jesus did, we’re saved by His grace. THEN, we’re reborn, made new, new nature. His grace saves us AND changes us!!
Thank you Pastor Laurie, I went and saw the movie, Jesus Revolution 🙏
Im looking forward to see Jesus Christ. Im going to heaven. Amen
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Amen 🙏
ME TO 2 ALSO
Me too- I hope- (have OCD/Scrupulosity)
Outstanding Sermon! Thank you Pastor Laurie, you truly have a gift from God for preaching and teaching. Thank you Jesus!
Such a nice sermon - no matter how long you’ve been saved!
The Bible says nothing can take us out of the hands of God. Nothing can separate us. It says it is a free gift. No where in the Bible does God say he takes salvation back. God is not a liar! We are saved and sealed until the day of redemption. That is why Christ went to the cross.
Thank you, Lord! ❤️ ✝️
It only refers to God's children who chose to follow Him all the time. They can make a mistake or even sin, then they repent, get up, and keep following Jesus. But it's not related to those people who deliberately choose to sin, even if they call themselves Christians. If a person decides to abandon the gift of eternal life, then God is not going to force anyone to keep it. God gives everyone freedom every minute of their lives. So, we have to be very careful and wise about our choices. Because wrong choices can bring us to the point where we may choose to abandon the gift from God. There are tons of warning about it in the Bible. Pastor Greg Laurie mentions some of them.
Hebrews 10:26-31 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Unless we willingly and knowingly walk away.
Like that parable of the seeds. Some hear the message and accept the gift of salvation, but because it wasn't planted in good solid soil it withers away or is choked by sin or is uprooted at the first test of strength.
For by grace you have been saved through faith, it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.
This passage says that faith is what saves us. God gives the faith to believe, not anything we do. So twice here we see that salvation is by faith and grace, both of which we physically do nothing to obtain, no action on the part of the person. If we could do something to get salvation we could “boast’. So my question is if works didn’t bring us to salvation then works can’t take it away. To say we could would be to say we had a part in first being saved.
Sorry but I don't believe Judas Iscariot made it into heaven.
Wonderful message, really good! Salvation is not of us or our doing, it is all what Jesus did for us. He saves us and it is finished. We may not receive much of a reward in heaven with little fruit, but we will be there none the less. Fruit is used as evidence of a believer but only God knows who are His. There are some who appeared to have fruit, but later said they didn't really know Christ, and didn't give themselves to Him till later. Jesus saves us..we can't take that away.
Perfect answer.
Unbiblical. We cannot be saved apart from God, but we are to follow where God leads and we have a choice in this.
I thank the Lord Greg for you that he's using you and such an awesome way it's so refreshing to hear you speak and encouraging at the same time God bless .
What is encourageing about believing you can lose your salvation?
@@bobbyrobby3600 the truth needs to be taught, regardless of our emotional reaction, to it....
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The Truth is that we cannot lose our salvation
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Salvation and reward are 2 different thing
@@bobbyrobby3600 yes no encouraging but make people doubting about their salvation.
No rest, but it's doesn't mean people will continue to sin because Romans 6:1-2.
Salvation and reward are 2 different things 🙏
Bring back the Erring One. James 5:19. Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
Let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.
What Bible are you all reading
It was so refreshing to hear pastor Laurie again preaching after so many years. May good continue to bless us with your bible teaching
Wonderful sermon, I wish we could here those nowadays. It just occured to me that this sermon is over 9 years ago, I thought it was recent. Really opened my eyes to my relationship with Christ the Lord.
His message is good , isn't it? We need constant reminder, and the constant studying of the bible to stay on course.
JUST SAY IT AND MEAN IT WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART. OH GOD IN HEAVEN I BELIEVE YOU HAVE RISEN JESUS FROM THE DEAD AND TODAY I CONFESS JESUS IS MY LORD FORGIVE ME OF ALL MY SINS COME INTO MY LIFE JESUS AND TODAY I ASK JESUS TO TAKE MY LIFE AND DO SOMETHING WITH IT I PRAY THIS TO THE FATHER IN JESUS NAME AMAN
No one can take the saved out of the hand of God, that means not even yourself you where bought with price that God only has but God said that if any one adds or takes any words out of his living word the Bible will be re moved from the Lamb book of life
I’m not trying to push the envelope. I’m just feeling anxious that God might not accept me if I don’t believe “enough”. Great message, thank you Pastor!
Faith little as a mustard seed can move mountains God bless you sister
Believing means Obeying. You must keep his commandments and do what he taught. You can believe so hard your face turns blue, but it wont help you if you don't obey and keep his commandments.
Simple answer, is Juliette "Don't stop believing" amen.. With God's Holy Spirit you will prevail against the "Enemy" Luke 3:16...be baptized in the Holy Ghost and you will have the "Dunamis" Power from on high. the Holy Spirit of Christ Jesus.
@Tony From Syracuse Jude 1:24
24Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you unblemished in His glorious presence, with great joy-
We accept Jesus in our heart (even faith of a mustard seed). We as humans aren’t able to be saved by our works. We are saved by the mercy and grace of Jesus’s gift taking our sins.
As a 100% unemployable, disabled veteran, there are many times I cannot attend church due to severe allergies which trigger fibromyalgia. I’m sure there may be people who wonder if I’m saved and safe in Jesus because they don’t see me at church on a regular basis. That’s why I am so thankful that I am confident in salvation and in my safe, secure eternal life and that my DADDY God is the only one who will ever judge me in that. We have to know who we are in Christ to walk in the knowledge of our eternal security. If not, the devil will dog you all day long with doubt. 🙏✝️🕊️❤️
If you are truly born again, God has purchased you with the blood of his Son. He will finish the work he started and chastise you when you sin. But if you’ve been born again then He’s taking you to heaven whether you like it or not.
Matt 24:41-51
But if we don't like it, isn't that a punishment?
If you don’t like it then you were never saved.
I'm so glad that these sermons are on here. There is so much darkness online, and on TH-cam, it boggles my mind. I'm so glad these are on here so that people can find the hope that God has given us and the sacrifice Jesus made for us.
My beloved sister as saved as a teen, as was I, and I have good memories of us going together to Bible study and youth group and summer church camp. She lived her faith as a homemaker and mother who homeschooled her kids. Then came some health problems and chronic pain, and her social drinking slid into secret drinking. She and her husband put on a happy face for the world, but in private they fought bitterly. She divorced him and later moved in with another man. They wouldn’t marry for financial reasons. She had become the woman at the well (and I gently told her this), then she died of alcoholism.
Brothers and sisters, every day I think of her and wonder about her fate. My heart is broken. I pray for God to be merciful with her, even though I know her fate either way is sealed. My only comfort is knowing God is just, and His will be done. I trust in His righteousness.
Please, I beg of anyone who reads this, don’t let this happen to you. Put God above your own wants and needs. If you might be drinking just a little too much, STOP. If anyone complains about your drinking, don’t get defensive. Instead, ask God to give you the courage to be honest with yourself and others.
The man on the cross beside Jesus did not believe in Jesus but the minute he believed Jesus told him he would be in heaven with him that day. GLORY TO GOD
Yes he died in faith and a relationship. So many people started out well and gave up the relationship later tends to break up a marriage also. You can consider salvation as a marriage it is a relationship with your God through your savior Jesus christ. In fact God in the Old testament often refers to it as a relationship that he is your husband and that we were unfaithful wives.
“Salvation is not gained by moral perfection. It is a gift that comes by grace, through faith (Eph. 2:8-9). That in turn means salvation cannot be lost by moral imperfection. What is not at all gained by performance cannot be lost by poor performance. Salvation is about believing loyalty-trusting what Jesus did to defeat Satan’s claim and turning from all other gods and the belief systems of which they are a part.”
Dr. Michael Heiser (RIP)
"For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them."- 2 Peter 2:21 So YES! It will be better for those that never knew God, than to be a believer, or to have known God's righteousness, and then turn away from God.
Eric Claeyborn what exactly do u mean by turn away?
This verse is astoundingly clear. The God we serve is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow from beginning to end. If not then his ways are not perfect which would make a liar of God because we are told his ways are perfect and just. The old covenant passed away, we now live under a new covenant. From the first covenant with Adam and Eve God demanded obedience. Why should we not now believe also that we must have obedience to the covenant with God. We have the Old Testament as an insight to the ways of God. Many examples of Gods people turning from him. Ezekiel 18 gives us a clear understanding of the judgment of God. Gods judgment didn’t pass away, we will still face God, just under a new covenant.
@@prissylovejoy702 Read 2 Timothy 3:1-9, Revelation 3:16, 1 Timothy 4:1-3, Romans 11, Hebrews 6 & 10, 2 Peter 2:1, and 1 Corinthians 11. If "Once Saved, Always Saved" is true, then does obedience become an option? When reading Phillipians 1:6 the next time, include verses 4 and 5 in context. It is not that a person can/may/might lose salvation but that such a person can be denied entrance into the Kingdom of God when Jesus comes back because they fall away AND stay away. Read the parable of the ten virgins and notice that they were waiting for the same Lord and all fell asleep but only those that were prepared for His coming were able to enter. We do not have to live in dread but why Paul mentions fear and trembling mentioned in Philippians 2:12? We are kept by the power of God through faith (1 Peter 1:3-6). We use Romans 8:31-39 to justify that we can never be separated from God but John 3:16 says that God so loved the world, so what about it? God loves all people but sin separates people from God; always has, is and will always will until Jesus comes back. We cannot depart from the faith if we were never in it.
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Bruce! My oldest and closest YT friend. Thanks for this share and for helping me stay on guard. I have learned so much from you. You truly are a loving brother through helping teach by example. I pray that you would have His joy, even during trials and tough times.
I'm growing tired I need prayer I am old now I lose things and get to mad at myself please I need prayer I keep the Sabbath I am clean from drugs I don't drink I don't watch TV or radio I only no the word I never went to school I stayed by him only Jesus blessed me I had no way to make money but God gave me a gift I could climb trees and I did great made enough to adopt 4 children but I am older now please I need prayer
Praying for you brother. That the Good Lord continue to bless, sustain and strengthen you. That His Holy Spirit empower you to remain faithful till the end.
Prayin for u my friend! How are u?
Great sermon. I am teaching a class on the Book of Revelation and I love the mention of the churches of Ephesus and Laodicea.
He who endures to the end shall be saved.- The Holy Bible
So, the answer to the question is YES!
The answer is NO. He who endures to the end will have a reward. Not salvation. if we could do one thing that would save us, then Jesus died in vain. John 6:47
@@jimkraft9445 why does the scripture not say....reward....the term is.....saved....
Jesus's exact words (Matthew10:22): "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
So much for once-saved-always-saved.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh what must one endure to the end of?
The time of Jacob's Trouble. The antichrist that comes playing the role of Christ amongst his angels to decieve the world into thinking he is Christ.
Jacob wrestled with God...
Israel prevailed with God...
Israel will undergo the 1st resurrection...
Jacob, if they stand against Satan the second time he is loosed, may be judged worthy to take part in the 2nd resurrection.
Romans 11 if you need clarification of what Israel is today!
Mark 13, Luke 21, and Matthew 24 warn the elect of the end-times about this event.
So, in easier terms, during the transition between this world and heaven age and the next world and heaven age, Christians may be in danger of losing their crown of salvation if they worship the false messiah that comes first.
See Revelation chapter 2 and 3 and take note of what he says to the churches to understand "enduring to the end."
Many will be decieved. This message will also be hated amomst the majority but it is sound and true. 👍
I just want to warn anyone who wonder if you can lose your salvation, I personally had a vision while at work of me personally losing my salvation due to constant sin, the vision was clear enough to stop me in the middle of working. I don't do drugs nor drink. There is nothing more important or valuable than your personal relationship with the Lord. Don't let anyone fool you to thinking that constant sin is OK. There is nothing on this planet worth risking your relationship with Him. Please I'm begging you to stay focus and be obedient to the Lord and His will, don't be lukewarm🙏
Amen...
As believer, you never lose your salvation.
I don't mean by saying that we are free to sin or do whatever we like in sin.
Romans 11:6
Galatians 5:16
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As believer we abide in Him, if people don't abide in Him mean they aren't believer.
As I said you can't lose your salvation, it's doesn't mean now you are free to sin. That's stupid thinking because Romans 6:1-2.
@@waynel389 Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
@@michaelgreen9792 that's not for believers
First Corinthians 5:5 Turn such a one over to Satan to kill the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord. This was a born again believer, Ephesians 1:13, who was sleeping with his fathers wife. Sick, He was about to lose his life, and the rewards he could have had in heaven, but the man was still saved so as by fire. First Corinthians 3:15 Only his works were burned up, but the man was still saved.
So much for the fruit inspectors.
I became a Watchman in 1998. The Holy Spirit is actively calling believers to speak the truth of the coming Antichrist and the falling away of millions of saints during the great tribulation. The time is short because there are so many who have never heard this critical message: The mark of the Beast must come BEFORE the rapture of the church (Mat. 24:15, 30-31)
I really enjoy your sermons!! I listen to them at work during my shift
Love your sermons....and this one answered a lot of questions I had. Thanks 🇿🇦
You can’t lose something you never earned or deserved in the first place… when you’re reborn it’s final, it’s like death in which you can’t reverse it. Once you accept Christ and truly commit your life to him, he commits his life to you and you’re married to him.
JESUS CHRIST IS MY AWESOME REDEEMER
Thank you I be can go home to the Lord I needed to hear this I just had a bad hour
The scriptures are replete with warnings about the possibility of losing our salvation. Anyone who believes that they can't lose their salvation has been deceived by the adversary. Study your bible! It's all there.
Thank you Jesus ♥️ Thank you Pastor Greg 🙏♥️Remember, Repent & Repeat 🙏 We serve a loving & forgiving God !!
The warnings not to be deceived and fall away or depart from the faith by Jesus (Mat. 24:4-5, 10) by the Holy Spirit (1 Tim. 4:1) by Paul (2 Thes. 2:3-4) by Peter (2 Pet. 2:1) and by John (1 John 3:7), are for believers. The unsaved can't depart from a faith they never had!
You missed the true answer, which is the Catholic interpretation. Jesus and the Apostles clearly caution that believers can sin and turn from God, and that this will separate you from God. Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:50, Luke 8:6,13, John 3:36, John 15:5-6, Romans 11:19, 1 Cor 6:9-12, 1 Cor 15:1-2, Col 1:21-23, 1 Thea 4:3-6, 2 Thes 1:7-9, 1 Tim 1:19-20, 2 Tim 2:10-13, Hebrews 3-12-14, 2 Peter 2:20-21, 1 John 1:8-10, just to name a few. All examples of when actions separated people from God and salvation is lost. The answer is sincere repentance, renewed faith, and continual following of Jesus’s commandments. This is not salvation via works, as faith is a prerequisite...but all who have true faith will follow the example of Jesus. And when we sin, as we all do, we must sincerely repent and correct our ways. This is what James meant when he says “faith without works is dead.” And Christians who abandon their faith - which can happen, we all know them - have also abandoned salvation.
@@billmartin3561 I encourage you to flip to the epistle of James and read 1:1.
Whom is he speaking to?
@@BrownBrown270 James calls them my Brethren,
"my brethren... See verse 2 James chapter 1 verses 1and 2.." ?
@@BrownBrown270 Please read: James 5:19. Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
Let him know that ***he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death*** and cover a multitude of sins.
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James is talking to believer but
James is not talking about Salvation
there are many which i recommend before greg, but he handles this well. great application sir.
23:27 .... Jesus praying for me in the next room... oh what a thought !!! John 17:20 "Neither pray I for these only BUT for them also which shall believe on me through their word" says Jesus after He had just finished praying for His disciples, verses above. Oh how comforting and to keep this in remembrance. Praying for all our prodigals, as is Jesus. Amen
Listened to the end, I hope I see results in my life soon. Thanks for your message and teaching us the Lords words from the Bible.
Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. His Holy Spirit that lives in all believers. Those that have believed His gospel, (First Corinthians 15:1-4) and by believing we are justified and sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. We can no longer be condemned. John 3:18 Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30. If salvation was not a free gift, no one could be saved. We can only be justified by faith alone in Christ alone without works.
Romans 11:6 If a person has to do one thing more than just believe, then it is a false gospel of works salvation, and no man can be saved by works, only by grace. If you add one work, it is not longer grace and their is no salvation. it is either all Christ, or not. There is no salvation in any other than what He did for us. Never what we do or do not do. Galatians 2:21 I do not void the grace of God, for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Paul said to examine yourselves and make sure you are in the faith. Not your works, not your fruit, but your faith. Have you done the will of His Father. John 6:40 And this is the will of Him who sent me, that ALL that seeth the Son, and BELIEVETH on Him, may have everlasting life, and I WILL RAISE HIM UP ON THE LAST DAY.
How you live and what you do has nothing to do with it. Have you done the will of His Father? That is the only thing you can do to be saved. Turning from sin to God will not save you. You are still a sinner. Jesus said, ye must be born again. How do we get born again? When we believe the gospel, John 1:12 even them that just believe on His name, He seals us unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Spirit of God, in whom ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
We have a free will until we believe. Then our free will ends as far as God is concerned. Once you believe and become a child of God, you are a child of God forever. It can not be changed back. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. It is irrevocable.
God may take your life, and you can lose the rewards you could have had in heaven for eternity, but no one has ever lost eternal life. That is an oxymoron. Eternal is eternal. Make sure your salvation rests only on what Jesus has done plus nothing. Not by anything you do, but all on what he did for you.
All men are sinners. The only reason men go to hell is because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. John 3:18 Once you believe you can never be condemned again. Unbelievers are condemned already because they have not believed on the name of the Son of God. No where in scripture does it say, Jesus only gives temporary life. It is eternal, or it is not salvation by grace. John 10:28-29. To say you can lose eternal life is to call Gods integrity in to question. It is to say He does not keep His word. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.
Thank you for that wonderful comment, Jim. It was disturbing to hear pastor Laurie say the question of whether one can lose their salvation is hard to answer. Hard to answer??
The answer is "NO!" The bible is clear on this. It's by the power of God that we're born of His Spirit when we believe, and it is God's power that keeps us saved. Jesus promises to carry ALL saved Christians through to completion (redemption). Pastor Laurie sounds like he believes our salvation rests on our shoulders and is affected by what we do or don't do. Even when we are faithless, He remains faithful. We are sealed with the Holy Spirit UNTO REDEMPTION. OSAS is a promise of salvation. People who use scripture verses to refute OSAS are not rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
@ A person who deliberately commits a serious sin after being baptized throws away his free gift of salvation, but he can gain it back by sincere repentance and Confession.
Krissy Young so what does Hebrews 10:26 refer too? Or is that a different time period in which he’s speaking to Jews who are in the tribulation? Honest question. Thank you!
These were Jewish converts that were being pressured into going back to animal sacrifices. The blood of animals could not take away sin. Jesus is our one blood sacrifice for all sin. Notice verse 30.The Lord shall judge HIS people. They had received the free gift of eternal life, but they would be committing a great sin if they went back to animal sacrifices as though Jesus was not enough.
Not that they would lose their salvation, but God does chasten His children. Even to taking our life early.
We can be chastened by the Lord, and lose our rewards in heaven, but never our eternal life which Jesus paid for with His own blood sacrifice for all sin. Romans 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. Irrevocable. Can not be changed back. God does not want His children living in sin, but He paid for all sin so that anyone who would believe on Him alone would be saved.
Eternal life is a free gift from God by faith alone in His finished work on the cross alone. Ephesians 2:8-9
Once we trust Jesus alone for eternal life, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption. Ephesians 1:13-14 and Ephesians 4:30 Romans 4:5-8. Faith alone apart from works. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the UNGODLY, his faith is counted for righteousness. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord imputeth righteousness apart from works. Blessed is the man whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
All our sin debt is paid in full by Jesus one blood sacrifice for all sin. John 3:18 Believers can never be condemned to hell again. Those that say you can lose your salvation are trusting in what they do to save themselves and are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus alone apart from works are saved forever.
John 6:47 To say we can lose our salvation is to call God a liar. First John 5:13. Romans 6:23
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OSAS is a heresy from Kalvin.
Read this. Yes you can lose your salvation.
2 Peter 2:20-22
For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”
It's not about what you do or do not do. It's about your attitude. Are you taking the grace so freely given for granted? That's a dangerous place to be. As long as you are trying to serve God and have a humble attitude, you are on the right track.
Read EPH 4:30. Do not grieve the spirit of God for which you were sealed until the day of redemption. You cannot loose your salvation. If you have the holy spirit. You cannot walk away. Because the holy spirit is sealed in you.
When people confuse salvation with eternal life, the Bible appears to contradict itself. You can't lose your eternal life, but salvation you gain and lose all the time.
@@TheFightingSheepI don't know what you mean with that? Salvation means being saved, from sin& death right? So salvation means that you will live. We have to work out our salvation.
You can walk away by ignoring/rejecting the Holy Spirit. If you don't let the Holy Spirit do His work in you.
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. - Romans 8:12-13
If you walk in the Spirit yesterday and walk in the flesh today, you are saved yesterday, your yesterday is eternal and can never die, but your today is lost and will never live.
John 10:28 KJV - And I give unto them ETERNAL LIFE; and they shall NEVER PERISH, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
@@fem0000 Galatians 3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
I accepted Jesus Christ as My savior and try to to do My best what is right and when I do wrong I have a guilty feeling and I won't to change after.
Jesus died on the cross so that we can be forgiven for our sins, so that we can repent and enjoy a relationship with God now and later. Jesus is coming back.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you JESUS AMEN 🙏💖🙏
Yes u can. You can walk away anytime u wish. Many have walked away and haven't even realized it.
If they’re born of the Spirit, though their flesh walks away, Jesus will NEVER leave nor forsake them. Flesh does all kinds of crazy, stupid things thanks to Satan’s deceiving influence. The born again Christian is justified and has Christ’s eternal Spirit living in them. A birth cannot be undone. Thankfully, we’re kept by the power of God~not our own power.
@@krissyyoung9264💯
2 Peter 2:21
“For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.”
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“But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.”
Unless ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish. Change your mind. Go from trusting in what you do to save you, to trusting in what Jesus did to save you. Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the GIFT of God is eternal life. You can only accept the free gift, you can not earn it.
Jesus paid it all, not part. The GIFT of God is eternal life. Romans 11:6 It is all grace, not works. Good works are fine, but can not save a sinner. We can only be saved by grace. What Jesus did for us. And it is eternal life, not temporary life, or probationary life, but eternal life.
If it is eternal, how long does it last? Forever and ever and ever. What if I sin all next week? Paid. Should we use grace for a license to sin? No, but when we sin. and we all do or you are only self righteous, grace abounds. Where sin abounds, grace much more abounds. You can not out sin grace or it would no longer be grace.
Are you saying that if a Christian murders or commits adultery that he/she is still saved?
@@jesussfarmer absolutely all sin and come short. You are categorizing sin little sin and big sin. The only sin Jesus said can't be forgiven is blaspheming against the Holy Spirit
@@sidneyhill7064
There is sin leading to death and sin not leading to death.
1 John 5:16-17
If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.
If someone doesn't have eternal life abiding in them are they saved? Are murderers going to suffer the second death?
1 John 3:15
Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
How could you say a Christian has eternal life abiding in them if they murder? Won't they die?
Ezekiel 33:18-20
When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.”
Also isn't forgiveness conditional? Who receives mercy, those who continue in sin or those who forsake there sins?
Proverbs 28:13
He who covers his sins will not prosper,
But whoever confesses and forsakes them will have mercy.
@@jesussfarmer so If a Christian commits those 2 murder and/or adultry they lose salvation
@@sidneyhill7064
Not just those two. Those who live according to the flesh will die.
Romans 8:12-13
Therefore, brethren, we are debtors-not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh. For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.
Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Do those who walk according to flesh stand condemned according to Romans 8:1?
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
Ezekiel 18:25-29
“Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not My way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair? When a righteous man turns away from his righteousness, commits iniquity, and dies in it, it is because of the iniquity which he has done that he dies. Again, when a wicked man turns away from the wickedness which he committed, and does what is lawful and right, he preserves himself alive. Because he considers and turns away from all the transgressions which he committed, he shall surely live; he shall not die. Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, is it not My ways which are fair, and your ways which are not fair?
Ezekiel 33:17-20 “Yet the children of your people say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ But it is their way which is not fair! When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.”
When king David turned to adultery and murder did he die physically? Yet the Lord says those who turn from righteousness to commit iniquity will die.
Again did David have eternal life abiding in Him when he murdered?
1 John 3:15
Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.
John 17:12-15
12"While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name (A)which You have given Me; and I guarded them and (B)not one of them perished but (C)the son of perdition, so that the (D)Scripture would be fulfilled.
13"But now (E)I come to You; and (F)these things I speak in the world so that they may have My (G)joy made full in themselves.
Every time I see the word saved, it is always followed by ' will be'. Nobody is saved until we reach heaven. Hebrews 6 is very clear on the warning.
Titus 3: 8. This is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in GOD should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men.....
Jesus said to the woman..GO N SIN NO MORE.
truly inspiring! THANK YOU!
Enjoy listening to Greg Lories sermons....even if thier old....🙏
Second Timothy 2:13 If we believe not, He abideth faithful, He can not deny Himself. Ephesians 1:13-14. Ephesians 4:30
Read vs 12 dude, If we deny him he will deny us.
Gods nature is to be faithful, and this is our blessed hope. God loves us and was faithful even unto the cross. Salvation is gift, the question is can that gift be returned? I don’t believe that people lose salvation like someone might lose their keys, but can someone leave their salvation? People love the comfort of saying no to that question because in many ways it relieves our responsibility to live right. The really question is do you believe in free will? We are saved by grace through faith, that is biblical. Can you deny that grace through unbelief? Real salvation will always bear fruit of a changed life, its funny that people will just say that if you end up living like a sinner that you were never saved. I would assume that any self proclaiming Christian Right now who would start living a life of adultery or a open sin, all his Christian friends would simply say “He was never saved”, most people like to argue this point about losing your salvation, and use it to ignore disobedience now. I would say to anyone who reads this “repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” surrender your life to Jesus and live your belief! These arguments are for people who are convicted about what their not doing. If you just live for Jesus it doesn’t matter!
You definitely do have a California accent. It's a laid back, drawn out sound and the way you pronounce some of your words. Saying that, thank you for this message. I needed to hear this.
Great sermon!
I think the majority of "backsliders" have never slid forward in the first place. You cannot lose your salvation IF it is a true conversion by the Spirit of God
(born again)and not an decision of your own will alone.
By definition you cannot have "eternal life" today and then not have it tomorrow or it was hardly "eternal life".
that is a nice thought, but NOT what the bible teaches.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. - 2 Peter 20-22
@@911EVERLASTINGGOSPEL Hi Bird. Thanks for writing. Salvation is so simple: those who love the Lord will be saved. However, it is important to know the definition of love.
We can find out the attributes of love from I Corinthians, chapter 13. It says that 'love endures all things.' So, if someone 'loves' the Lord, but it does not endure - it was never love in the first place! The person never loved the Lord and, therefore, was never saved.
Yet, those who love the Lord have a love that never fails. For example, I can honestly say that, for decades now, I have not even had a second of doubt that I know Jesus and am bound for heaven.
Bird Astair, if you do not have that kind of assurance, I am concerned about your standing with God. I encourage you to ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit as described in Romans 8.16.
I will pray for you as, according to the Scripture, you are not exihibiting the assurance of someone who is genuinely saved. It is yours for the asking! But you must ask with faith in the promises of God.
Blessings to you and yours!
@@kenshiloh Let us keep in mind that love does not exist apart from good works,which is the reason why good works are necessary for salvation.
@@GeorgePenton-np9rh Be careful, George! Works are not at all necessary for salvation. For example, I have total freedom in Christ to do anything, anything my heart desires. It is written, "All things are lawful to me." However, since I know and love the Lord, what is my burning desire? It is to please my Father in everything I say and do. It is to love and reach out to the poor and broken. To proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.
If I never did another thing for God, I would be just as saved as I am now. However, it is impossible for me not to do good works, as the will of God has consumed my life. So, please read the book of James carefully! He does not say that works are necessary for salvation - it is the proof OF our salvation, and there is a big, big difference!
All the best to you as you serve the Lord Jesus Christ; He is the light of the world!
It is bad logic to say "eternal life " begins here inside our time life. The two are worlds apart.
Brian, My young beloved brother, this is an honest man. He even said "I don't know if one can lose their salvation." No one TRULY knows because we are men. We may at times depart from the the living God, but I believe we will never be disowned. Yet ...why tinker with God's gift? I am guilty of this "tinkering"!!
We must hold fast to the Gift, and love others because it is our free gift. This is saving faith. Amen? Love ya 'bro....
God says no one can take us out his hand once we saved. Then some say they can take themselves out .but no one includes us too.God keeps us saved once we saved. So we can't lose our salvation.God won't let that happen once we are saved.the bible says we are kept saved by God's power. If he left it up to us,we all would be lost. God knew that .So he promised to keep us saved forever ! Thank you Jesus !
Craig Lawrence you are encouraging me in that the God that saved us is the same God that will keep us.
That is the verse I stand on The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak I love the lord but we all are sinners but. I trust in God's word I have fallen many times but the Lord brings me back
Jesus says that ONLY the SHEEP are safe in His hands. So, the question is not whether one can lose their salvation or not, but are YOU A SHEEP?
Jesus defines the sheep,,,, they "hear (present tense) and Follow (present tense) Him.
If you cease to hear and follow (present tense) you do not have eternal life. Jesus says so!
I am 74 years old. I have seen so many people that accepted Jesus Christ as your savior, and their life change for a little bit, and then they just changed their mind of how they lived. They no longer had a relationship or contact with the Lord anymore. You teach people that all I have to do is ask Jesus into their heart and be their savior one saved always saved is a lie. He that endures to the end will be saved.
@@gailmazzotta6187 then they never had a saving, genuine faith and were seeds I planted in shallow soil. They "walked amongst us" but were never "one of us."
I grew up in reformed theology and believed once saved always saved. Then, I read the early church fathers and basically got my *ss kicked. I realized that we can lose our salvation and we are not just saved by grace but called to sanctification and called to continue in faith and walk worthy of our calling. It's not just what we have been saved from but what we have been saved to.
To obey the commandments of the Son of God and "walk in the light."
I have listened to both sides of the question.....can a born again believer lose their salvation, and I should say that this pastor gave the best answer out of them all. I often wondered if a person was saved at all if they did lose it. How do you lose something you never had.
understand this man is truly a Personof God listen close and intensly and Remember, Repent, Repeat!!!!
If works can't save you lest you could boast, then good works can't keep you saved, lest you could boast.
The holy spirit saves you and keeps you saved. You will begin to change by his power. If you don't, then you were never saved to begin with.
This analogy is apropos. A loving father walking along a busy street with his child does not let his child hold his hand because that child whether in anger or want, just might let go. No, he holds on to that child's hand. He would never let him go.
And for those who think they can give up and walk away from salvation, do you think that loving father would ever let go of his child's hand and let him tin into traffic because the child gets angry enough or begs enough to be let go? No God saves us and keeps us saved because he loves us. Truly a deposit guaranteeing what is to come.
When we're born again, we can't be "unborn again."
Jn 3:3-8; Jn 10:27-30. Given in a spirit of love. 17jn3
Can't a child die if not fed? And we cannot be snatched from Jesus (thank God for that) but we on our own accord can walk away, can't we? Does God force us then to stay with him? Laurie said "i don't know", and said we don't work to be saved, we just work our salvation... that is our actions are born out of our salvation. And added that even our good actions are prompted by the Holy Ghost Philippians 2:13. In the end it is a difficult question (can we lose our salvation) to answer for so many people only speak the sinners prayer without actually being repentant. That's why Laurie said we should ask if the person was saved to begin with.
@No Calvinism we don't lose our salvation. The question is if we are saved to begin with. Got a question though can people cast demons without being saved?
“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
Matthew 7:21-23 NKJV
Matthew 7:21 They never did the will of His Father in heaven. John 6:40 and John 6:29. They did not have His Spirit in them. Ephesians 1:13. They trusted in what they did to save themselves by keeping Gods laws and doing good works, but never trusted Jesus as the only way to be saved.
If we could do one thing that would save us, then Jesus died in vain. We can only be saved by what He did for us, not by what we do or do not do.
Those that trust in their own works are not saved. Those that have trusted Jesus finished work on the cross have everlasting life. John 6:47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that BELIEVETH ON ME HATH EVERLASTING LIFE.
If you have eternal life today, then you will still have eternal life 1000 years from now. John 10:28-29. No one can pluck us from His hand. No, not even you. Hebrews 13:5 He will never leave us or forsake us. John 6:37 He will never cast us out.
That is Gods word. He can not lie. You can lose you life, and the rewards you could have had in heaven, First Corinthians 5:5, and First Corinthians 3:15. but not your salvation which was paid for by Jesus one blood sacrifice for all sin to them that believe.
You can't loose your salvation! Works has nothing to do with it......
You are not "unborn" you die it is called "spiritual" death...
Proverbs 29:1, KJV: He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy. Proverbs 29:1, NASB: A person often rebuked who becomes obstinate Will suddenly be broken beyond remedy.
I can see where this man is coming from, and to add to his point. NOBODY who truly has this faith will give it up, and if they want to, then they never had it to begin with, and I suggest they think about their lives. Read the Parable of the Sower found in Matthew 13: Some seeds fall among the wayside, some among stones and some among thorns; some fall on the good ground and bear fruit 40, 60 and some 100 fold. Look into it and see that the good ground is where you will never WANT to give up GOD
Excellent teaching
Of course you can lose your salvation. The bible warns against it a lot. Salvation is a gift and can be freely received and freely returned.
@Mrchikenkatsu
I was a born again baptised, saved by the power of the holy spirit and not by my works, christian for over 25 years. I used to lead small group bible studies. I did mission trips and worked with the youth and the drama teams at my church. I read the bible. Often.
When I lost my faith I lost more than you can ever know. Wife, 2 kids...everything.
The truth hurt.
But I would rather belive in the aweful truth than get suckered into believing a beautiful lie.
@No Calvinism
Man. David Mosier is the very example; a living witness that OSAS is just not true. I used to believe in OSAS, as Greg Laurie teaches. But it's just not true my friend. In fact, I used to go to Greg's Church in Riverside for some years, after being born again. I, to this day, still love and respect Pastor Greg. But I just don't understand how he believes this doctrine. I don't.
And there are so many scripture that makes it plain that people can (1) Forfeit their salvation through a sin lifestyle, and (2) people can literally throw away their faith. David Mosier just proves what Paul warned: "Do not throw away your confidence, for it has a great recompense or reward".
- Hebrews 10:35
@@KENZIIE_lol Old post, but David can repent and return and reclaim his salvation and go to heaven.
In Revelation 22:19, it says... "If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city". So YES... we can lose our salvation, or have our part taken from the Book of Life.
Eric Claeyborn Salvation is so safe and so secure for Eternity, we know our change in following our Lord Jesus Christ is easy the old has gone the new is ours ,
@thatkidwithADHD Repent basically means to turn around ( a change of mind). it's like you are going in a certain street and you make a U-turn and drive the other way. So we are in sin and we turn around from sin and walk towards God. Repentance is to turn away from sin.
That's a very good analogy, JNPR. And once we take that U turn towards God, we are free to make another U turn back to Satan. Many do just that, which is what Jesus was talking about at Matthew 13:3-23.
My sister and her husband were close to being pastors of a church and now a day they even deny God exists.
My former bro-in-law who was a Baptist preacher, once told me that the more he studied religion, the less he believed in it.
Keep moving forward, Romans 8:31-38Amen
Jesus said, if you remain in me
You can’t lose your salvation like you lose a $20 bill or your credit card. You can walk away from it.
You can also have it taken from you. John 15, the branches in the vine that don’t produce fruit are cut off and thrown into the fire. That is why we must work out our salvation.
6:35 - Greg Laurie admits HE DOES NOT KNOW if a Christian can lose their salvation. I respect that. I was in that valley for a long time. And now I'm sure: You can lose your salvation.
Yes very so, I can’t figure out why they think you can’t lose your salvation
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
@@michaelgreen9792 it also says your name can be blotted out of the book of life
But yet he preaches "you never were saved to begin with" and that is false.
@thruitallauto2538 if you understand what being born again means, it's easy to understand why you can't lose it
NO !!!
Very short message.
Hard to forget that way.
Semper Fi
Thank you brother 😎👍🏼
The same fear that plunged Peter into the water is the same fear that he allowed to push him into denial.
To those who diligently study the word Psalm 1. John 6:28-29. tells you God’s works. John 6:40. Tells you God’s will. Parable of the seeds, Satan is working hard in this area to many people don’t understand salvation. Often conflating it with Discipleship. It doesn’t take Satan much to get people to doubt John 3:16. The most known verse but the most misunderstood.
Salvation will never get lost, coz that's of God. But a person can get lost from that salvation and entirely miss the mark.
If someone says they are saved but are actively trying to find ways to live outside of Gods will they probably were never saved. The simplest explanation is often the correct answer.
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
@@michaelgreen9792 someone who is saved is not going to alter Gods word. This is the closest to a good argument but you have to prove this person that would be referred to is saved.
@@infinitegalaxy2079 Please read Rev 22; 19
You have to be saved to have your name written in the BOOK OF LIFE. God will take names out of the BOOK OF LIFE for many reasons.
@@michaelgreen9792 I see your point but if we are a new creation and are sealed by the Holy Spirit then how would that work? What saved person would alter Gods word knowingly and deceitfully?? I think the broader context makes this interpretation difficult. I do get your point though and I will research it more. I think it’s important not to support a doctrine that seems to be supported by only a single verse. Especially when that verse is not directly addressing the theological point. The point here is not to alter Revelation. Thanks for your input though.
@@infinitegalaxy2079 Revelation 3:5 'He who overcomes will thus be clothed in white garments; and I will not erase his name from the book of life, and I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels. James 5:19 Brothers, if any among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back let him know, that he who converteth a sinner from the error of his way shall save a SOUL FROM DEATH and shall cover a multitude of sins. O.S.A.S. Is a false teaching. Gregg Lorie also teaches if a Christian commits suicided he will go to heaven FALSE FALSE FALSE
Merry Christmas greg Laurie happy New Year 2020.
If you have become a child of God, you will never lose your salvation.
If you remain in him
When we don’t understand we go through Romans 7. When you understand Romans 8. You understand why they say once saved always saved.
If someone continues to sin intentionally after "getting saved" and sin doesn't bother them, were they ever REALLY saved or did they just buy "fire insurance" just in case? I know people who "got saved", and continue to sin without conscience, and then want to brag about it! I have a hard time believing that they were ever really saved. When I got saved, I could no longer continue to sin because the Holy Spirit inside me would convict my heart to where I didn't want to do the same things I used to do. He changed my heart, and changed my way of thinking and behaving. I'm still not perfect, none of us are, but when I fall, I go to my Lord and ask for forgiveness, and He is gracious to forgive. I then ask Him to help me to not sin anymore. It's about repentance, which means to change your mind/direction, and turn away (from your sin). I KNOW that I do not have the power to change within myself, but He does have the power, and DOES come to my aid when I'm about to do or SAY something that would dishonor Him.
Sometimes all I can say is "Jesus, help me!", and He is there instantly to help me.
Bottom line is that when you love someone, you don't want to ever do or say anything that would hurt or disappoint them.
John 3:16 promised EVERLASTING LIFE for those who believed, they will NEVER PERISH despite of their ups and downs Christian lives. Col. 2:13 says that God had already forgiven ALL our trespasses. All sins are already paid at the cross. Eph. 2:8 says that "for by grace we have been saved ( present perfect tense) through faith. . . Genuine Christians , are those who were born again, redeemed by the precious blood of Christ , sealed by the Holy Spirit, and those who were kept in the hands of the Father,(John 10:28), those who believed in him is not condemned, (Jn. 3:18). So genuine Christians will NEVER lose salvation. A true Christian will NEVER lose salvation until the end because God will sustain him by his GRACE.
It's not a matter of salvation. It's a matter of weak and strong Christians
Plus we may receive five crowns 👑 to lay at Jesus feet when we get there to show our appreciation for His Love and Grace. When they say Satan comes to steal and destroy. Don’t let Satan steal your crowns to lay at Jesus feet. Don’t let Satan destroy your marriage. Now you know what he steals and destroy’s.
I don't think we can lose our salvation. The question is, are you really saved in the first place.
Exactly. For those who think a saved person has lost his salvation is not true. He didn't lose his salvation because he was never saved to begin with.
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
@@michaelgreen9792 Is thier something your trying to say ? You're quoting rev ,
If you fall away you were more likely was never saved. But you cannot lose your salvation once your are saved. Even dr charles stanley under stood that after decades of being a pastor. He said that on his ministry.
That is a common but flawed opinion. This "wasn't saved to begin with" is a weak attempt to prove OSAS.
At what point do you lose salvation ?
I forget who said it but, “If you could lose your Salvation, you would!” Ephesians 2:8-9
Not if you remain in him
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Very good message. Thankyou for uploading.
Agree. If one is not saved despite one's profession of being a Christian, it is only because such a person was never born again in the first place. Why cannot people stomach this Gospel Truth? It is only because such a person is selfish and always suspicious of the actions of the brethren. Such a person would not like to respond to a question like: "HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU BE BORN AGAIN??" If u can lose ur salvation, how would you know that u're Heaven bound should you die suddenly? Answer that!
You only lose your salvation when you die in unrepentant sin if you repent you don't get saved again you are forgiven. But if you die living like the world in sin after being saved and don't repent you lose your salvation. Matt 24: 41-51
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Those who are saved have yheur names written in the book of life with jesus blood, and yhis blood CANNOT BE ERASED ptaise yhe Litd🙏😁
Revelation 22:19
“And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.”
Amen preach it!!😊
(cont) in the Bible out of context and TWISTED where they read THEIR theology into the Bible rather than letting the Bible determine their theology. The following is a short list of the most popular passages that they distort: Hebrews 6:4-8, Hebrews 10:26-27, John 15:2,6 2 Corinthians 13:5, Philippians 2:12, James 2: 14-26, Galatians 5:19-21, Romans 2:6-7. I was once a former living example of Heb 6:4-8 for 9 long years until the Lord chastised me to bring me back.
wtom04 how do you know He forgives you ? I’ve been in deep depression over my past of willful sins. I was “saved” when I was young but struggles with a sin off and on. Then in college I “fell away” as some would say because I got involved in a lifestyle I never thought that I would be a part of. Then even after thinking I came back to God because I got married and started going back to church praying etc I realized I still have a lot of willfull sin in my life. I’ve been reading and listening to so many taht say once you do this you can’t come back because you are recrucifyinh Christ.
Thank you greg
Hebrews 10:26-31 26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
There's many true Christians who believe you can lose your salvation, and there's many true Christians who believe you can't lose your salvation. There's many true Christians that agree with me on where I stand on the lose your salvation issue, and there's many true Christians that disagree with me on where I stand on the lose your salvation issue. A person's belief regarding whether or not they can or can't lose their salvation is not what causes them to go to heaven. Accepting Christ in your heart and meaning it in your heart is what causes someone to go to heaven when they die. Accepting Christ in your heart by just mouthing the words without meaning it in your heart doesn't save someone. Accepting Christ in your heart and meaning it in your heart is what saves someone.
I believe you can't lose your salvation. 1 John 2:19 talks about how there's no such thing as an ex-Christian. If there's no such thing as an ex-Christian, that implies how you can't lose your salvation. When people say how they are an ex-Christian, what they usually mean by that is I used to believe in God, I used to go to church, I used to believe the Bible is true, I used to believe Jesus died on the cross, I used to be a fan of Christianity, etc. None of those things make someone a Christian. Believing in God, going to church every Sunday, believing the Bible is true, believing Jesus died on the cross, being a fan of Christianity, etc is not what makes someone a Christian. A Christian is someone who has accepted Christ in their heart and really meant it in their heart. Accepting Christ and meaning it in your heart means you no longer want to live for the devil anymore, you no longer want to live a lifestyle in bondage to sin (Christians still sin, still make poor choices in life, still have sin weaknesses, still are not perfect, but true Christians never live lifestyles defined by sin), you don't want to take advantage of grace, you don't want to sin so that grace can abound, you want to live for the Lord, you want to obey the Bible, and you want God in your life to help you to live for him.
When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they are always going to be saved according to what the Bible says. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they experience changes in their life such as never living a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin, still have sin weaknesses, are not perfect, still make poor decisions in life at times, etc, but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), wanting to live for the Lord, wanting to obey the Bible, not wanting to take advantage of grace, not wanting to sin so that grace can abound, etc.
There's other Bible verses that prove you can't lose your salvation. Revelation 3 :5 talks about how when you are saved, God will never remove your name from the Book of Life, which is why I believe you can't lose your salvation. 1 John 5:13 explains how you can know for certain you have eternal life. If you can know for certain you have eternal life, that's strong evidence how you can't lose your salvation. John 10 talks about how when people are saved, no one can snatch them out of God's hand, which sounds like evidence how you can't lose your salvation.
The same verse you mentioned about your name being in the book of Life also says less your name be erased from The book of Life. It wouldn't have been there in the first place unless you'd been saved and it definitely says it can be erased.
@@gailmazzotta6187 Thanks for your comment. You do bring up an excellent and valid point. Revelation 3:5 talks about how people who overcome will not be removed from the Book of Life. On the surface and at face value, that Bible verse does appear to suggest that people can lose their salvation. I don't think Revelation 3:5 is referring to people losing their salvation even though it appears on the surface like it is talking about losing your salvation.
I believe that the point of Revelation 3:5 is that true Christians are going to persevere to the end (true Christians may backslide at times but they never completely walk away from the faith), true Christians do overcome (overcoming is what happens to someone when they accept Christ in their heart and mean it in their heart due to them being a new creation like in 2 Corinthians 5:17), true Christians don't live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin at times, but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), etc. I think the point of Revelation 3:5 is how you can tell if someone's a true Christian; not that people can lose their salvation. The whole context of Revelation 3 is about how you can tell whether someone's a true Christian.
When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they become a Christian, they become a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore (they still sin at times, they still make mistakes in life, etc but they never live a lifestyle defined by sin anymore), they want to live for the Lord, they want to serve the Lord, they don't want to take advantage of grace and forgiveness in regards to how they live their life, they're never going to walk away and abandon the faith (they may backslide at times, but they're never going to walk away and abandon the faith), they're going to persevere to the end, they're going to overcome, they're going to experience sanctification in how they live their life, etc. When a person accepts Christ in their heart and really means it in their heart, they experience these positive changes in their life. This is how Christ changes people when they become saved.
It's okay if you disagree with me on the losing your salvation issue. I believe a person's belief on whether or not someone can or can't lose their salvation doesn't determine whether someone is saved. There's many true Christians who agree with me on the losing your salvation issue, and there's many true Christians who disagree with me on the losing your salvation issue. There's many good people who believe people can lose their salvation, and there's many good people who believe people can't lose their salvation. I have many friends who believe people can lose their salvation, and I have many friends who believe people can't lose their salvation.
@@gailmazzotta6187Unless our names are there and we never come to Salvation...
No. Because when born again, you get Gods life in your spirit. His life never ends
Of course you can lose your salvation. The bible warns against it a lot. Salvation is a gift and can be freely received and freely returned.