Its amazing how the Stinger is able to deliver the power so efficiently to the wheels, even with a weight and power disadvantage, compared to the IS. Once more this proves that the Stinger is the best bang for your buck by a good margin.
Unfortunately the build quality of the Stinger leaves a lot to be desired, whereas the Hyundai G70, which is the same car, is a much better built car. The G70 costs a little more, but I think it's probably negligible when considering the build differences and quality of the Genesis.
@@_Paul_from_Jax I would agree to an extent on the build quality, its hit or miss with both actually, the G70 and Stinger. I am the original owner of a 2018 GT2 and have not any issues with the build quality of mine, to the contrary its held up great.
The stinger is a great car but a used 2018 3 series BMW with the B58 turbo I6 (which is a forged and reliable engine) will decimate it and for cheaper too. There's a reason toyota uses it in the new Supra.
I'll give the Stinger props but straight line speed either from a roll or a dig is 1 thing. There is a reason it's a "value" car, and even then, you're not going to get one for under $55k anymore, so it's not even that cheap. The design, interior quality, driving dynamics, sounds are all not that great compare to some other cars around $50k. It's still a Kia, in the sense that within the Hyundai family, it's still the bottom tier brand Genesis > Hyundai > Kia. So you're literally buying this car just for the straight line speed. You want to know the age group that usually only cares for cars with straight line speed?
I just got my ‘23 GT2. Traded in my Camaro that I modded up to wazzu. I’ve put 1200 miles on her already and I don’t regret it one bit. Crazy fun car and a sedan to boot for the family I now have. It’s still all stock and blows my mind how fast this thing is. I can now tell you without doubt that this car is definitely more powerful than it says.
They got alot of haters who be popping up in the comments though..I got a 2022 Kia K5 EX. Could of got the GT but I'm more in the luxury and tech and I still rent alot of cars...
My AWD stinger is highly modified, it’s amazing what I gap out there. Lexus IS500 has an amazing bullet proof 5.0 V8 that will sound night and day better with a cat back. I had 3 Lexus’s prior to the Stinger and I’m considering an IS500 myself, they can be modified to quite well too.
Is500 would require an supercharger kit to see any real performance aftermarket gains. Which is a good solid 12+ plus grand.. on top of msrp of is500 reaching near 90k grand. In total near 100+ grand. Would easily just buy an rs5/amg 63s and or m3-m4, not the 2022s.
Love your channel. I’m keeping my 2022 gt2 stock because I prefer stock vehicles but your videos have been outstanding showing the potential. Mad props
It's official Stinger gt makes more power than advertised! There's no way it's keeping up on a roll against a car with 475hp and lighter 😂 It's just crazy! Awesome race Sam! Thank you for keeping us entertained!
Agrre with you, as they did with the Elantra N. Owners has tested their N on dyno, and the result is more 325-335 hp to the crank than the 278 advertised. 278 is at the wheels...
@@Frank-hg9rl yup! Damn that N is impressive too! Korians are dropping bombs! Did you see the new RN22e and vison 74 commercial? Looks very impressive!
I'm in shock that the stinger took it from the dig. 100hp less 200lbs more and 20k less in price. Wow 😳😳 . By far best value for money sport sedan. And it doesn't cost 59k. It's starts 50k-53k for the suede package before taxes.
The difference in these car is one has straight motor (V8) and the other has a V6 (Twin Turbos). Turbos help the Stinger reach full torque at very low RPMs. That equates to it coming off the dig extremely fast and powerful while the V8 is trying to reach higher RPMs to reach the same kinda acceleration. Turbos will almost always beat straight motor if horsepower numbers are close. It’s one of the reasons I can challenge scat packs in my Genesis G70 though I have 120 less horsepower.
Your right about the turbo but the Lexus is a V8 and remember that V8s have top end power,so that means he will only last but for so long with those turbos and lets not forget that turbos blow out or can blow the engine up, and that stinger is garbage too 😆🤣,not beating my 2001 Lexus gs300 ,i also have twin turbo with a inline 6 and i have 425 hp
@@matty808pyro8 I’ve been proud to own a Kia and always will be on my 4 but gotta get a genny next. Don’t let anyone talk down on your car love that shit to death.
Did they finally figure out all the paint issues they were having? When they first came out that was the biggest reason I didn't consider them... that and I didn't need a sedan.
Kia , Hyndae, genesis are killing it. It’s amazing how great those brands have become. It’s beyond incredible. I would rather own one of them than a German brand that’s in the shop every week. I had a bmw 335i, Mercedes’ C 320, and VW GTI….yes they were fun to drive…but always had reliability issues…could not wait to get rid of them
@@4nlover635 that is NO longer the case. Um I can say that about German cars that have the worst reliability and they are so damn expensive to keep out of the shop
The stinger GT is by far one of tue best cars out now. ItS priced damn good, and because it’s a “Kia” it’s probably the best sleeper on the streets today. I love my stinger GTS then just basic JB4 and some bolt ons made it a monster
Yeah stinger is a really nice Audi/BMW alternative if you can get over the whole Kia think. I believe it’s even faster than the S5 sportback as well. I can’t imagine a stage 2 Stinger.
@@jacobbrandenburg9584 The Stinger is my favorite car on the road. Kia/Hyundai did an absolutely fantastic job with that car which has gone about it's business dismantling american made muscle cars like varoius versions of Mustangs and Camaros and even a Cotvette. And unlike what people are saying here about the Lexus being so much more reliable, that is flat out 100% wrong. If you take care of that Stinger, it will last foreever and is made every bit as good and better than that Lexus. This is not a Kia from the 90's, they spent a ton of time and research into developing that car so that it not only beats down cars with over 100 more horsepower, but also costs 10k+ less. In terms of that Lexus, the Elantra N with 200 less horsepower hss a good shot at beating it. I would say that Hyundai/Kia now know how to make an engine. All they do is go out and beat down Toyota and Hondas best. To think Honda's pricing on their weak new Integra is about the same as a Kia Stinger GT is such a joke.
@@jacobbrandenburg9584 Maybe a previous generation S4/S5, but not the current B9.5s. Stock or modified. I dont think they are as reliable either. Many people have made over 700whp and Tq in the B9.5s with the stock block. Just basic bolt ons and a hybrid turbo, not even a full frame turbo, and they run 9s. Could be wrong, but havent seen a kia do that yet.
The roll races seem to have the stinger driver too busy watching the Lexus. A delay in pushing that go pedal. Plus a little turbo lag but more of driver lag. The Stinger is no joke for this brand
Honestly that race went as I was expecting because the Is500 has a similar 1/4 mile time to the Stinger but a higher trap speed. It would be awesome if you could get the IS500 against an old GS F because they are pretty much the same car
I watch all of your videos and they are very entertaining. If you could start providing the quarter mile times for the best run of each vehicle that would be great info. Thanks!
The IS500 has an intake bypass that goes in the cabin at higher RPM. I'm not sure about the IS500, but on my ISF, especially with a different air filter, it sounds fantastic.
Surprised the IS500 wasn't put up against the G70 3.3T AWD/RWD, The weight difference is more in favor of the G70 being around 3700 lbs. It would be more even or better for the G70 during the roll. Digs would just be even better for the G70. Add a JB4 and it's no contest. the IS500 is just too expensive and not much faster vs the Genesis.
@@tyhyhh For that price I'm good. There are cheaper options that sound as good if not better. As an overall package the stinger/G70 just checks more boxes than the is.
Ok, someone help me out here.... On this channel months back, Charger 392 beats stinger, then recently Lexus is500 beats charger 392, and now stinger beats Lexus is500? 🤔 I'm confused. Driver mod needed?
To be honest, i really love both cars. However, if i had to choose, i would choose the lexus due to its v8 engine. Im so happy that lexus allows you to get a v8 engine
I’d take my 2019 stinger GT awd over any muscle car all day any day and I’m a original Muscle car guy!!! Had big badass horsepower all my life I’d take the twin turbo 🐌 🐌 all day long over any naturally aspirated V8 nothing like sound and power outta a V8 don’t get me wrong but that stinger motor has potential of 600 plus hp if the right things are done to it and spanking anything on the road off the line or on a roll 🤟🏻🤟🏻💪🏻🫶🏻
Funny thing I got my stinger in 2020 July. Gonna cost me $59,300 in total (GT limited the top trim in Canada the V6tt of course) it is 84 months $706.9 a month. To get the Lexus is500. If I were to do the same thing 84 months, 0$ down, warranty 5 years/ 100k km to match my kia warranty the Lexus will cost $113,000 ($1346 a month for 84 months).
I think if sound is the mission then slurging on a good exhost for the stinger is a good option too. Its so much cheaper from the get go that I think you will still come in under the F.
The singer has such a great torque curve that is beats the IS500which has 100 more horsepower and is lighter from a dig. I guess AWD helps a lot. I love Lexus cars but this is embarrassing
@@Justaeuropeanman what are you talking about. Don’t just come on here and spew complete wrong information. 368 to 470 is not 32. Please explain or do you practice some kind of new math?
Lexus, the pursuit of everything, BUT performance. Lexus has reliability and quality, but fails to perform always. They never pushed a car to its potential ever, thats why they last so long.
if you want a fast lexus there is plenty aftermarket but why would they choose to lose their older buyers over a reliability issue leave that to the aftermarket guys
@@donbaird3826 Lol its really not in this case, drivetrain will certainly make a big difference with cars at this level and obviously the AWD car will have the advantage off the line especially due to its shorter gearing. Clearly the better powered car showed itself in the end.
@@donbaird3826 It's not. If anything, dig races favor turbocharged engines over naturally aspirated engines since the peak power graphs are completely different between the two (peak power for the Stinger is in the 2000-3000 rpm range).
@@donbaird3826 no way.. off the line power can be manipulated by too many things. Hell my vehicle let’s me leave with 4 psi of boost which is a huge advantage and is not reflective of what it makes naturally if you don’t engage the system. Using the “torque reserve” system cuts half a second off my 0-60 times.
@@yousef.al-assaf FINALLY somebody who gets torque also is a factor not just horsepower 🤣🤣. These two cars have almost identical torque numbers but the stingers gets peak torque almost 3,000 rpm sooner than the Lexus
@@brandonhughes401 the Lexus should have done much better considering it weighs 200lbs less and makes 100hp more. This shouldn't have been as close of a race as it was.
@@Rome1017Lights not really since the stingers gets peak torque 3k rpm faster than the IS 500 adding in the AWD factor it made sense. And the roll it won all 3. (Automatic by 1 car length and manual mode by 2 car lengths) that's about where it should be.
@@brandonhughes401 ...and Sam had the stock Bridgestones on the car. Upgrade to the Michelin PS4S' and the results in all races will be advantages toward the IS 500.
Stinger did decent on digs nothing to brag about. Rolls were closer then expected considering stinger is almost 200lbs heavier and 100+hp less then IS500. I think a base GT model RWD 3.3tt stinger would atleast tie IS500 on a roll. It’s 300lbs lighter then loaded GT2 AWD stinger.
@@donbaird3826 lol I own a stinger. It did good but AWD does have advantage over RWD/FWD on a dig anyday. It is down 100hp tho and the IS500 wasn’t reeling it in.
Wow, I knew the Stingers were good, but that was surprising. I thought it might win the launch with AWD, but I was really surprised the IS 500 wasn't able to reel it back in. Kia must have been advertising wheel horsepower on those things!
Stinger is no joke even a stock one. Best price best bang for buck lots of mod support out there nice inside and out but most of all the smile factor :)
Well.. it was tuned by Albert Biermann you know.. and the sad thing is that the Stinger's engine is severely undertuned from the factory so there's definitely potential for A LOT more! It wouldn't surprise me if they'd produce something close to a GT-R given the platform can handle it. It's a really underrated car and that's always a WIN in my book. People overlooking this car because of the KIA badge are only fooling themselves.
Stinger is a disposable go fast sedan.Lease it for 3 years and thrash it.The Lexus is the buy and hold long term car.Naturally aspirated V8 and Lexus reliability....yes plz
2008 IS F 416hp 0-60 4.3 seconds, 12.7 at 112.3 . 2020 IS500 472hp 0-60 4.3 seconds, 12.7 at 112.3 . Odd Motor Trend got the exact same numbers for both. A '08 IS F with 100k miles still goes for about $30k. There is one '08 Kia any model any trim on AutoTrader above $12k.
I wouldn't trust a used Kia/Hyundai powertrain, especially an 08. The IS especially being built on Japan, there is nothing to worry about in terms of reliability.
The IS 500 is a new car with a warranty. Also, it is slightly heavier than the F. So the performance difference makes sense. The IS 500 did actually outperform the IS F on Car and Driver's Lightning Lap, and it was only 2 seconds slower than the RC F Track Edition. So, the better area under the curve of the IS 500 (with its 7300-RPM redline) really pays off at the track.
Let's see: the Lexus sounds way better, looks way better, is built way better, will last five times longer, will depreciate half as much, is way more luxurious, faster around the track, and is faster on a roll (b/c Stinger loses AWD advantage). Really no comparison here
I think the stinger just has a great torque curve. Max at 1300 rpm. Don’t know what it is for the Lexus but I’m sure after watching this max is about 5 thousand rpm. Have to wind it up a lot.
Kia and the German Cars stress their engines over 100 horsepower per liter. Lexus keeps their engines under 100 horsepower per liter that’s what make Lexus so reliable and Korean and German cars less reliable. I would take the IS 500 any day !
Rolling races without a 3rd party flagger are worthless. The car that hits the gas first will always win. You saw the Lexus was in a lower gear with a high rev, hitting the gas is straight power. But the stinger driver was trying to balance the mph as he watched the Lexus. The Lexus hits its the gas, already in a lower gear, then the stinger driver slams the gas but was in the bottom of a gear so he had lag until it down shifted, and took off. Always!
Stinger has better low end torque and is AWD, no surprise it's faster from dog between the two. I was going to get used GSF but stinger was slightly bigger which worked better for me. I wonder how RWD vs AWD stinger would be on drag race.
@@cindykeselowski899 depending on conditions it can, when 2 wheels have adequate traction then 4 as well but not in all situations. Alex on auto said AWD has quicker 0-60. I have AWD and thinking about switching to RWD stinger, it's more fun but not faster in every situation.
Not overrated. In fact, it's probably very misunderstood. It's a relaxing gentleman that turns into an insane gorilla on command. A real Jekyll and Hyde car. But, it has to do both, so it is not as sporty as an "F" car or a BMW M car. It's a fast daily, and that's that. It's actually very similar to the Stinger in that respect.
It would be interesting to see how the lighter RWD Stinger GT with the mechanical LSD would perform. But unfortunately it's not available in all markets.
This seems like user error on the digs. Motortrend test result IS500 4.3 -60, 12. 7 -1/4 mile. Stinger 4.7-60, 13.2-1/4 mile. Car and Driver test result. IS500 4.3-60, 12.8-1/4 mile. Stinger 4.6-60, 13.1-1/4 mile
The OEM Potenza's suck imo on the IS500. I immediately swapped to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (summer) on my IS500 hooks way better especially in the heat.
to get those amazing numbers especially with rwd cars, magazine/reviewers flog the cars til they get the best numbers, You'd be hard pressed to get a stock rwd vehicle over ~400hp+ to pull magazine numbers on regular roads every time.
nice to see a V8.... it will be really interesting to have in both cars a "dragy" measurament device or similar, for sure it will give a really good database of 0-100, 50-100 etc... to compare cars from different videos, but with similar power etc... regards!
No its just turbo'd so it makes power way lower in the RPM range compared the the Lexus. Digs always favor turbo'd cars. In the roll the IS500 easily wins because it does have significantly more power.
I tought that ofcourse lexus gonna win easly because of having 100hp more but im suprise they both Goes pretty close together.I personally own stinger GT and has few mods done to it already long time ago and even with jb4,Cat delete,Cat back exhaust and intakes for same reason the car feel slow to me already like it has 200hp but seems like its faster then i even tought but i Just Got use to the power and car itself that maks me Fall a sleep when i drive hard.great video by the way.
Prediction: *unless* the IS500 can get a good launch, the Stinger wins the dig race, while the IS500 wins the roll easily. AWD is a double-edged sword: better and more consistent launches from a dig, but excess weight and powertrain loses from a roll.
MY stinger gt2 awd is making over 500 on the dyno plus in 488 torque by adding a performance catback exhaust, cold air intakes and a tune. Total added price in mods 2000k how fast 0-60 in 3.8 to 3.7 and 1/4 mile in 11.9-11.8 depending on the day using 104rt fuel
I think its extremely impressive that Lexus built a v8 during these times for a sport sedan. But my stinger with jb4 makes Over 400whp and 500wtq. You would need to add forced induction to that Lexus to get those kind of numbers.... Which would be fantastic....
Hey as a Lexus guy through and through. You gotta do the digg in manual / sport + / and have traction control AND stability control off.(press and hold Traction button) Plus get some good tires. Pilot sport 4 (s) at least. Build revs to just under 2k and drop the 🎤. I swear my gs350 fsport gets outta the hole better than that 500. I'm running pilot sport 4s tires.
On Sam's channel everything will get beat by a kia or Hyundai....the is500 runs a 12.7 1/4 and the best a stinger can do is a 13.1, there is no way....this channel is trash...editing at its finest.
Yeah , the traction control in these Lexus’s is very intrusive. Even the most minute ( my-noot ) loss of traction kills the power …. That’s where the pedal dance comes in handy + sport and manual mode …. Get ready for a whole different animal .
I immediately swapped the pos oem Potenzas on my IS500 for Michelin Pilot Sport 4s summer tires. Wow the difference that make. This is my 1st rwd car I had a STI awd before upgrading.
Here’s a commenter without fanboying either cars like much of the comment section. Having an opportunity test driven both cars before I bought a different car, I love what these two cars offer here. These are the representations of ignoring the SUV norm and push for performance sedans from their respective brands. The IS500 will certainly hold more value than the Stinger simply by the fact it’s a Lexus and it’s the last V8 sedan before Toyota is forced to go electrified in the next decade. The Stinger is the type of car that follows the steps of German cars, as Albert Biermann intended, but with the value prospect of buying a Kia. To me, I’d still go for a IS500 simply because I love the Lexus quality than most brands, they hold up.
Only from a dig because of the awd system in the stinger.THe is500 is faster and overall a much better car.Better engine,looks better(opinion) and of course better reliability and durability.
The Stinger may be faster from a dig but only one of these vehicles has been discontinued. Everyone online wants to talk about how great of a car they are but the fact is very few people actually put their money where their mouth was and bought one.
Do you understand car company are going electric ditching gas engines right? I hate this because we can’t support many more electric cars on our grid but it’s political and the truth.
The 3.3TT is nice but i expected a little more out of it. Ive seen them get gapped by smaller displacement turbo 6 cylinders. Im talking mod for mod here
Maybe this was the reason I sold the IS500..just maybe 🤔😅 (spec title typo: IS500 is 472 BHP not 400 which I did mention)
question: if you hadn't sold it, did you plan on winter-driving it? I was taking a serious look at it but needed AWD in the winter.
nahh defo no
@@SamCarLegion great video, not to nit-pick but your text graphic for the IS500 shows 400hp 😁
You're a weak man.
@@NismoSupra weird. Thanks for noticing
Its amazing how the Stinger is able to deliver the power so efficiently to the wheels, even with a weight and power disadvantage, compared to the IS. Once more this proves that the Stinger is the best bang for your buck by a good margin.
Unfortunately the build quality of the Stinger leaves a lot to be desired, whereas the Hyundai G70, which is the same car, is a much better built car. The G70 costs a little more, but I think it's probably negligible when considering the build differences and quality of the Genesis.
@@_Paul_from_Jax I would agree to an extent on the build quality, its hit or miss with both actually, the G70 and Stinger. I am the original owner of a 2018 GT2 and have not any issues with the build quality of mine, to the contrary its held up great.
@@_Paul_from_Jax No build issues on my Stinger GT, things solid!
The stinger is a great car but a used 2018 3 series BMW with the B58 turbo I6 (which is a forged and reliable engine) will decimate it and for cheaper too. There's a reason toyota uses it in the new Supra.
I'll give the Stinger props but straight line speed either from a roll or a dig is 1 thing. There is a reason it's a "value" car, and even then, you're not going to get one for under $55k anymore, so it's not even that cheap. The design, interior quality, driving dynamics, sounds are all not that great compare to some other cars around $50k. It's still a Kia, in the sense that within the Hyundai family, it's still the bottom tier brand Genesis > Hyundai > Kia. So you're literally buying this car just for the straight line speed. You want to know the age group that usually only cares for cars with straight line speed?
You have no idea how eagerly I waited for this! THANK YOU FROM THE VERY BOTTOM OF MY HEART!!!
Kudos to the camera man who is running beside them to get this amazing shot
I just got my ‘23 GT2. Traded in my Camaro that I modded up to wazzu. I’ve put 1200 miles on her already and I don’t regret it one bit. Crazy fun car and a sedan to boot for the family I now have. It’s still all stock and blows my mind how fast this thing is. I can now tell you without doubt that this car is definitely more powerful than it says.
Just picked up a gt2 three weeks ago and I’m dusting everything in reason. Family sport sedan with two baby seats in the back, ciao ciao!
Slower than your stock Camaro
Welcome to modern turbos!
@@Tw0Staxx lol same two in the back tints coming soon lol
@@MWCRUSADER0508 it was a 2010 and yes not a doubt in my mind
It's time people start to realize Kia and Hyundai are making good products at a good price.
I'm glad someone said it.
Agreed!!!
They got alot of haters who be popping up in the comments though..I got a 2022 Kia K5 EX. Could of got the GT but I'm more in the luxury and tech and I still rent alot of cars...
No
Love my Stinger! Can concur👍🏾
My AWD stinger is highly modified, it’s amazing what I gap out there. Lexus IS500 has an amazing bullet proof 5.0 V8 that will sound night and day better with a cat back. I had 3 Lexus’s prior to the Stinger and I’m considering an IS500 myself, they can be modified to quite well too.
Is500 would require an supercharger kit to see any real performance aftermarket gains. Which is a good solid 12+ plus grand.. on top of msrp of is500 reaching near 90k grand. In total near 100+ grand. Would easily just buy an rs5/amg 63s and or m3-m4, not the 2022s.
Love your channel. I’m keeping my 2022 gt2 stock because I prefer stock vehicles but your videos have been outstanding showing the potential. Mad props
But Lexus are for females and old people
@@SSH939 is500 can’t even keep up with bmw m340i
@@SSH939 You can get 20 or so horses with just a catback exhaust. Plus, then it will sound amazing.
It's official Stinger gt makes more power than advertised! There's no way it's keeping up on a roll against a car with 475hp and lighter 😂 It's just crazy! Awesome race Sam! Thank you for keeping us entertained!
Agrre with you, as they did with the Elantra N. Owners has tested their N on dyno, and the result is more 325-335 hp to the crank than the 278 advertised. 278 is at the wheels...
@@Frank-hg9rl yup! Damn that N is impressive too! Korians are dropping bombs! Did you see the new RN22e and vison 74 commercial? Looks very impressive!
did we watch the same race? the Stinger was getting walked on a roll.
@@TheBreakfastLover yea but you probably used magnifying glasses or something 🤷
@@TheBreakfastLover barely, when the difference in power is supposed to be ~100HP the Lexus should have destroyed the Stinger...
I'm in shock that the stinger took it from the dig. 100hp less 200lbs more and 20k less in price. Wow 😳😳 . By far best value for money sport sedan. And it doesn't cost 59k. It's starts 50k-53k for the suede package before taxes.
It’s called all wheel drive
@@CPAJayhawk The 392 challenger RWD destroy the stinger and it has 15hp more then the is500 and Its more heavy
It’s the all wheel drive
@@TheKingc20 The 392 Rwd challenger with 485hp and 4200lbs took the stinger.
@@TheKingc20 yea he’s right the 392 took the stinger from the dig
The difference in these car is one has straight motor (V8) and the other has a V6 (Twin Turbos). Turbos help the Stinger reach full torque at very low RPMs. That equates to it coming off the dig extremely fast and powerful while the V8 is trying to reach higher RPMs to reach the same kinda acceleration. Turbos will almost always beat straight motor if horsepower numbers are close. It’s one of the reasons I can challenge scat packs in my Genesis G70 though I have 120 less horsepower.
Close? Lexus was 472 and stinger is 370, I wouldn't call it close tbh xD
Stinger
Sam was driving Lexus , how can you forget that
Yep! And my Golf R shallows the Stinger and Mustangs.
@@Golfr2020 matchbox eh
Your right about the turbo but the Lexus is a V8 and remember that V8s have top end power,so that means he will only last but for so long with those turbos and lets not forget that turbos blow out or can blow the engine up, and that stinger is garbage too 😆🤣,not beating my 2001 Lexus gs300 ,i also have twin turbo with a inline 6 and i have 425 hp
I'm so proud to own a KIA Stinger!
Never thought I'd say I'm proud to own a KIA but I did😂😂😂
Why?
@@vicktharula8317 why to which part of what I said? The first part or the second?
@@matty808pyro8 I’ve been proud to own a Kia and always will be on my 4 but gotta get a genny next. Don’t let anyone talk down on your car love that shit to death.
Did they finally figure out all the paint issues they were having? When they first came out that was the biggest reason I didn't consider them... that and I didn't need a sedan.
@@johnleto475 I own a GT2 and yes the paint sucks but if you don’t want a sedan then it shouldn’t even be in your scope cause it’s a heavy car
Kia , Hyndae, genesis are killing it. It’s amazing how great those brands have become. It’s beyond incredible. I would rather own one of them than a German brand that’s in the shop every week. I had a bmw 335i, Mercedes’ C 320, and VW GTI….yes they were fun to drive…but always had reliability issues…could not wait to get rid of them
New Hyndae EV gonna be massive!
😂😂😂
Junk. Cheap speed
@@4nlover635 that is NO longer the case. Um I can say that about German cars that have the worst reliability and they are so damn expensive to keep out of the shop
@@richardmyles8237 I still wouldn't buy kia or Hyundai. Toyota, Lexus, and Honda are the best. Audi, depending on which model is pretty good too. FAF.
The stinger GT is by far one of tue best cars out now. ItS priced damn good, and because it’s a “Kia” it’s probably the best sleeper on the streets today. I love my stinger GTS then just basic JB4 and some bolt ons made it a monster
Yeah stinger is a really nice Audi/BMW alternative if you can get over the whole Kia think. I believe it’s even faster than the S5 sportback as well. I can’t imagine a stage 2 Stinger.
@@jacobbrandenburg9584 The Stinger is my favorite car on the road. Kia/Hyundai did an absolutely fantastic job with that car which has gone about it's business dismantling american made muscle cars like varoius versions of Mustangs and Camaros and even a Cotvette. And unlike what people are saying here about the Lexus being so much more reliable, that is flat out 100% wrong. If you take care of that Stinger, it will last foreever and is made every bit as good and better than that Lexus. This is not a Kia from the 90's, they spent a ton of time and research into developing that car so that it not only beats down cars with over 100 more horsepower, but also costs 10k+ less. In terms of that Lexus, the Elantra N with 200 less horsepower hss a good shot at beating it. I would say that Hyundai/Kia now know how to make an engine. All they do is go out and beat down Toyota and Hondas best. To think Honda's pricing on their weak new Integra is about the same as a Kia Stinger GT is such a joke.
I fell like red sport more of a sleepet
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@@jacobbrandenburg9584 Maybe a previous generation S4/S5, but not the current B9.5s. Stock or modified. I dont think they are as reliable either. Many people have made over 700whp and Tq in the B9.5s with the stock block. Just basic bolt ons and a hybrid turbo, not even a full frame turbo, and they run 9s.
Could be wrong, but havent seen a kia do that yet.
The roll races seem to have the stinger driver too busy watching the Lexus. A delay in pushing that go pedal. Plus a little turbo lag but more of driver lag. The Stinger is no joke for this brand
Questionable reliability
lol it's called top-end. The Lexus has it.
@@ARentz07 nope. 🥴
@@jimcole2648 lol OK, I guess we're ignoring how easily the Lexus walked it.
@@ARentz07 no not ignoring.
Honestly that race went as I was expecting because the Is500 has a similar 1/4 mile time to the Stinger but a higher trap speed. It would be awesome if you could get the IS500 against an old GS F because they are pretty much the same car
Isn't it very similar to the IS F too? Same engine displacement and almost the same hp, like 10 or 15 less if I'm remembering correctly.
They are not pretty much the same car. Lol totally different chassis
@@jesterokjones4954 the Old IS F had 416 horsepower so the IS500 would be slightly quicker
@@michaelbanko9965 ah yeah, that's right. Same engine, just not as much horsepower.
@@michaelbanko9965 as we seeing this video hp ain't everything
Great race. Would to see K5 GT or Sonata N Line against Kona N and Elantra N, that could be awesome. Again, keep up the good work.
K5 or N line would get wasted. Open front diffs ruin those cars.
Stinger is nice, but that IS500 v8 sounds so good, and probably will go up in value in 5-10 years because of that nice v8.
Never will it go up in value .It just does not perform.472hp and two hundred pounds lighter and did not show that at all.
@@camirocz lol look how expensive used 2008-2014 ISF's are on the market. So performance is a factor in car values? You sound dumb lol
@@camirocz no, but it's one of the last na v8 sedans
There's nothing special about an is500. Lexus wants people to think it is. Now a hellcat will go up in value in 10 years.
@@ejmich8136 The Lexus and Hellcat will both hold value due to a more limited supply.
Sadly, some people still living in the 90s(just the Kia)
I was waiting for this one! Amazing! Thank you!
not surprised at the results. the stinger gt is a very very well thought out car, they did a great job
Don't forget that BMW has a hand in it.
I watch all of your videos and they are very entertaining. If you could start providing the quarter mile times for the best run of each vehicle that would be great info. Thanks!
Say it again for the people in the back.
The Turbo picks up and go from a still position however, the Lexus proves it has more power and speed by the rolling starts.
I'm surprised that Stinger cabin is way quieter and no road/wind noise! That Lexus sounds like an artificial engine noise
The IS500 has an intake bypass that goes in the cabin at higher RPM. I'm not sure about the IS500, but on my ISF, especially with a different air filter, it sounds fantastic.
Well it is a v8
Stinger sounds like a vacuum cleaner. Lexus sounds like a video game.
@@HanginInSF Fortunately, you can turn off the video game sounds in the Lexus. Sam is a fake, so he left the fake sound on. lol
Surprised the IS500 wasn't put up against the G70 3.3T AWD/RWD, The weight difference is more in favor of the G70 being around 3700 lbs. It would be more even or better for the G70 during the roll. Digs would just be even better for the G70. Add a JB4 and it's no contest. the IS500 is just too expensive and not much faster vs the Genesis.
you buy a is500 for the sound not the performance imo
Well the g70 and the stinger are dam near identical except for weight and looks. So how the stinger performed is similar to what the g70 will perform
@@Voicingplays weight is the key word. A couple hundred pounds lighter should help. Price is roughly the same between the two.
@@tyhyhh For that price I'm good. There are cheaper options that sound as good if not better. As an overall package the stinger/G70 just checks more boxes than the is.
@The Real Cat of 2020 it's the exact same hp, g70 lighter tho so it's like a tiny miniscule bit faster
Both very cool cars, but I would take the Stinger because of the space available, awd and because of the turbo to make it easier to chip, optimize
And it's nicer looking 😀
@@alexvalle750 i dont know about nicer looking. They look like cheap Mercedes on the inside
@@zekealabat5917 nope I have driven some Mercedes, the Stinger is better processed and better materials only the design is better at Mercedes
@@alexvalle750 The IS is gorgeous, and while I don't think the Stinger is beautiful, it doesn't strike me the same way as the Lexus.
Ok, someone help me out here.... On this channel months back, Charger 392 beats stinger, then recently Lexus is500 beats charger 392, and now stinger beats Lexus is500? 🤔 I'm confused. Driver mod needed?
try ask on the sticky pinned comment
depend on the model stinger
@@arher9598 I definitely should. I confused by this
The IS 500 struggled from a dig, but it easily won the roll races.
To be honest, i really love both cars. However, if i had to choose, i would choose the lexus due to its v8 engine. Im so happy that lexus allows you to get a v8 engine
You know a charger has a V8?
@@SamCarLegion lol the Charger is a big ole boat. Not even close.
I’d take my 2019 stinger GT awd over any muscle car all day any day and I’m a original Muscle car guy!!! Had big badass horsepower all my life I’d take the twin turbo 🐌 🐌 all day long over any naturally aspirated V8 nothing like sound and power outta a V8 don’t get me wrong but that stinger motor has potential of 600 plus hp if the right things are done to it and spanking anything on the road off the line or on a roll 🤟🏻🤟🏻💪🏻🫶🏻
a simple $400 dollar jb4 would put a good gap vs the is500. Which is pretty hard to modify performance wise.
Jb4 for the stinger starts at like 570 😭
That looks better/would leave you bus lengths in whatever tincan you drive my guy
USD. Second hand go for 300, mad?
@@layne4376 what's wrong with that? Everybody's got to start somewhere if I can If I can recall, who makes Lexus?..... cough, cough Toyota
@@rane7189 you will always see those smartass comments here. To many losers have free access to the keyboard this days 😉
I would still take the Stinger and the $20k in upgrades to really smash the Lexus . Fun race though ...
Take about 3,000 and it will keep with a hellcat.
20K difference?
Funny thing I got my stinger in 2020 July. Gonna cost me $59,300 in total (GT limited the top trim in Canada the V6tt of course) it is 84 months $706.9 a month. To get the Lexus is500. If I were to do the same thing 84 months, 0$ down, warranty 5 years/ 100k km to match my kia warranty the Lexus will cost $113,000 ($1346 a month for 84 months).
@@donbaird3826 what mods ?
@@GMKDP
The rates back in 2020 were still decent unlike now lol
Pretty close between these two, except for the sound where one has a very clear advantage. Worth the extra $$ just for that IMO.
I think if sound is the mission then slurging on a good exhost for the stinger is a good option too. Its so much cheaper from the get go that I think you will still come in under the F.
The singer has such a great torque curve that is beats the IS500which has 100 more horsepower and is lighter from a dig. I guess AWD helps a lot. I love Lexus cars but this is embarrassing
It only has 32 more HP but yes from a dig the 32 extra HP isn’t enough to real it back in after that AWD launch
Actually the RWD Stinger is even faster than the AWD and the torque-curve of the 3.3L is indeed excellent.
@@Justaeuropeanman 472hp it's not only 35. You don't know that the is500 has 472hp?
@@Justaeuropeanman what are you talking about. Don’t just come on here and spew complete wrong information. 368 to 470 is not 32. Please explain or do you practice some kind of new math?
Awd vs rwd its really common sense in who is gonna win the dig race
Lexus, the pursuit of everything, BUT performance. Lexus has reliability and quality, but fails to perform always. They never pushed a car to its potential ever, thats why they last so long.
LFA
GSF
if you want a fast lexus there is plenty aftermarket but why would they choose to lose their older buyers over a reliability issue leave that to the aftermarket guys
…and this is why my IS 500’s avg mpg is 14mpg. Manual & Sport+ all day everyday and the PS4s mitigate slippage from a dig.
You mean you race to win? What a concept. Sport+ and manual actually engages the lock up torque converter in 2nd and up.
This is gonna be an epic battle!
Every time I watch one of these videos it makes me glad I bought a Stinger.
Not bad but all wheel drive is always better off the line and will get you the win most of the time. The roll is where you really show true power!
Off the line is true power. End of story
@@donbaird3826 Lol its really not in this case, drivetrain will certainly make a big difference with cars at this level and obviously the AWD car will have the advantage off the line especially due to its shorter gearing. Clearly the better powered car showed itself in the end.
@@donbaird3826
It's not. If anything, dig races favor turbocharged engines over naturally aspirated engines since the peak power graphs are completely different between the two (peak power for the Stinger is in the 2000-3000 rpm range).
@@donbaird3826 no way.. off the line power can be manipulated by too many things. Hell my vehicle let’s me leave with 4 psi of boost which is a huge advantage and is not reflective of what it makes naturally if you don’t engage the system. Using the “torque reserve” system cuts half a second off my 0-60 times.
@@yousef.al-assaf FINALLY somebody who gets torque also is a factor not just horsepower 🤣🤣. These two cars have almost identical torque numbers but the stingers gets peak torque almost 3,000 rpm sooner than the Lexus
Unfortunately its crazy how bad the interior trim quality on Kia is. The Lexus will hold ages better than a Kia.
Awesome video as usual! You should do a video with the CLA 45S against the supra CF.
The guy driving the Stinger didn't manual shift once!
Win or lose that Lexus sounds great.
The IS 500 in Manual sport + never disappoints. Glad I went with it!!!!! I can't wait to start modding and tuning it up soon.
I will add that roll race was to be expected 🔥🔥🔥 put lengths on that kia, love to see it.
Lol, your IS500 barely beat a Kia LMAO!
@@brandonhughes401 the Lexus should have done much better considering it weighs 200lbs less and makes 100hp more.
This shouldn't have been as close of a race as it was.
@@Rome1017Lights not really since the stingers gets peak torque 3k rpm faster than the IS 500 adding in the AWD factor it made sense. And the roll it won all 3. (Automatic by 1 car length and manual mode by 2 car lengths) that's about where it should be.
@@brandonhughes401 ...and Sam had the stock Bridgestones on the car. Upgrade to the Michelin PS4S' and the results in all races will be advantages toward the IS 500.
Stinger did decent on digs nothing to brag about. Rolls were closer then expected considering stinger is almost 200lbs heavier and 100+hp less then IS500. I think a base GT model RWD 3.3tt stinger would atleast tie IS500 on a roll. It’s 300lbs lighter then loaded GT2 AWD stinger.
RWD definitely gonna smoke that IS500 on a Roll
Ive got a IS500 but still major props to the Kia. The GT2 Package with Nardo Grey is sexy imo..
This person has no clue. Stinger is STRONG on the dig for a 4000 lb sedan.
@@donbaird3826 lol I own a stinger. It did good but AWD does have advantage over RWD/FWD on a dig anyday. It is down 100hp tho and the IS500 wasn’t reeling it in.
@AJ Kongmanichanh thanks aj! Yea it def would be close.
I worked at Kia 20 years ago and they were pure garbage. I wouldn't consider buying one at any price.
I'll take the reliable good sounding V8 over a turbo Kia all day everyday...
Here comes the fanboy
@@kfx3907 He just choosing his dream car, KIA boy.
I can't believe I bought a kia but I did. I love this Stinger! Replacing the intake next week.
Surprised that even in rolling start the large hp difference + lower weight resulted in such a small difference in the drag race.
Wow, I knew the Stingers were good, but that was surprising. I thought it might win the launch with AWD, but I was really surprised the IS 500 wasn't able to reel it back in. Kia must have been advertising wheel horsepower on those things!
Those stingers are definitely giving the v8s a hard time! I would still prefer the is500 tho 🤩
Stinger is no joke even a stock one. Best price best bang for buck lots of mod support out there nice inside and out but most of all the smile factor :)
First time seeing a stinger driver launch it properly on here
Would've been nice if he knew how to paddle shift too.
very true
Wow that Kia Stinger Twin Turbo V6 AWD is just smoking Lexus IS500’s, Acura TLX Type S’s, Volkswagon Golf R’s, Infiniti Q50 RS’s, and Nissan Z’s.
Well.. it was tuned by Albert Biermann you know.. and the sad thing is that the Stinger's engine is severely undertuned from the factory so there's definitely potential for A LOT more! It wouldn't surprise me if they'd produce something close to a GT-R given the platform can handle it. It's a really underrated car and that's always a WIN in my book. People overlooking this car because of the KIA badge are only fooling themselves.
Those KIA Stinger are truly Amazing!
Stinger is a disposable go fast sedan.Lease it for 3 years and thrash it.The Lexus is the buy and hold long term car.Naturally aspirated V8 and Lexus reliability....yes plz
Nothing beats a naturally aspirated V8 in a rolling race
no.
@@SSH939 Uh, yes.
a simple tune on the stinger would destroy that v8 from a roll 😂
I think he forget to mention the is500 tested is rwd, whereas the stinger is awd. The stinger is not any quicker than the is500 😅
Aaaaand now we know why Sam really got rid of the Lexus...😅🤣
But getting a naturally aspirated engine is better than a turbo.
If he got rid of it because it loses to a Stinger ONLY FROM A DIG, he's not a real enthusiast.
@@ARentz07 you said it.
@@ARentz07 true
Good race, thank you sam, all yours videos are awesome¡¡
Man! Those are close! So sad to see the Stinger going out....It can compete with much more expensive cars..
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They haven’t said it’s going out… yet
And one simple tune on the Kia and it would leave the Lexus so far back
Probably another reason added to the list of reasons Sam let his lexus go. Good choice Sam.
2008 IS F 416hp 0-60 4.3 seconds, 12.7 at 112.3 . 2020 IS500 472hp 0-60 4.3 seconds, 12.7 at 112.3 . Odd Motor Trend got the exact same numbers for both. A '08 IS F with 100k miles still goes for about $30k. There is one '08 Kia any model any trim on AutoTrader above $12k.
I wouldn't trust a used Kia/Hyundai powertrain, especially an 08. The IS especially being built on Japan, there is nothing to worry about in terms of reliability.
@@wojtekswiezak148 Agree completely 👍🏻.
The IS 500 is a new car with a warranty. Also, it is slightly heavier than the F. So the performance difference makes sense. The IS 500 did actually outperform the IS F on Car and Driver's Lightning Lap, and it was only 2 seconds slower than the RC F Track Edition. So, the better area under the curve of the IS 500 (with its 7300-RPM redline) really pays off at the track.
Let's see: the Lexus sounds way better, looks way better, is built way better, will last five times longer, will depreciate half as much, is way more luxurious, faster around the track, and is faster on a roll (b/c Stinger loses AWD advantage). Really no comparison here
So proud as a Stinger owner and Korean🇰🇷
This was crazy!! I need to see both these cars on a dyno. Someone is lying about what’s under the hood!!
I think the stinger just has a great torque curve. Max at 1300 rpm. Don’t know what it is for the Lexus but I’m sure after watching this max is about 5 thousand rpm. Have to wind it up a lot.
Kia and the German Cars stress their engines over 100 horsepower per liter. Lexus keeps their engines under 100 horsepower per liter that’s what make Lexus so reliable and Korean and German cars less reliable. I would take the IS 500 any day !
Yea Lexus
Who know what these guys bring in on their cars. I wouldn't be surprised many come in with an unreported tune at least.
@@aomana4357 this is true!!!
The guy driving the stinger wasn't using the paddle shifters he was just straight auto lmao
Imagine to be in a lexus has 5.0L V8 to lose against a V6 kia 😂💔
Rolling races without a 3rd party flagger are worthless. The car that hits the gas first will always win. You saw the Lexus was in a lower gear with a high rev, hitting the gas is straight power. But the stinger driver was trying to balance the mph as he watched the Lexus. The Lexus hits its the gas, already in a lower gear, then the stinger driver slams the gas but was in the bottom of a gear so he had lag until it down shifted, and took off. Always!
I think the RWD Stinger weighing about 200 pounds less than AWD would have won both ways. The RWD version slips very little.
Stinger has better low end torque and is AWD, no surprise it's faster from dog between the two. I was going to get used GSF but stinger was slightly bigger which worked better for me. I wonder how RWD vs AWD stinger would be on drag race.
RWD has nearly as much traction as AWD, coupled with being about 200 pounds lighter I am confident the RWD would win.
@@cindykeselowski899 depending on conditions it can, when 2 wheels have adequate traction then 4 as well but not in all situations. Alex on auto said AWD has quicker 0-60. I have AWD and thinking about switching to RWD stinger, it's more fun but not faster in every situation.
I thought the IS had 472 hp
@@JustinSherrod1991 The graphic said 400
I have a GT1, don't sleep on those cars. They have alot of torque and power. With a few bolt on's and tune, you easily push 500whp and more torque.
Very embarrassing indeed I'd rather have the kia now. To be honest lexus isf 500 is overrated
I desired that IS as well, but I’m overly pleased with the GT2
Only things left to compare is the actual driving experience and reliability
@@Tonyinterviewz yeah the 10 year warranty brings peace of mind
Not overrated. In fact, it's probably very misunderstood. It's a relaxing gentleman that turns into an insane gorilla on command. A real Jekyll and Hyde car. But, it has to do both, so it is not as sporty as an "F" car or a BMW M car. It's a fast daily, and that's that. It's actually very similar to the Stinger in that respect.
It's not overrated but it's a decade behind the competition in pretty much every aspect EXCEPT engine sound!
It would be interesting to see how the lighter RWD Stinger GT with the mechanical LSD would perform. But unfortunately it's not available in all markets.
A turbo engine will never last mid to long term under constant boost
Mine is at 150k miles already whist making 500 to the wheel. Couldn't be happier
@@SSH939 Scott Kilmer will disagree.
@@ae747sp5 he is bias, a Honda and Toyota fan.
On both rolls you jumped the start which gave you the advantage
This seems like user error on the digs.
Motortrend test result
IS500 4.3 -60, 12. 7 -1/4 mile.
Stinger 4.7-60, 13.2-1/4 mile.
Car and Driver test result.
IS500 4.3-60, 12.8-1/4 mile.
Stinger 4.6-60, 13.1-1/4 mile
On paper only. It barely won the roll race also.
The OEM Potenza's suck imo on the IS500. I immediately swapped to the Michelin Pilot Sport 4s (summer) on my IS500 hooks way better especially in the heat.
Sam is just a terrible driver. It’s like this with every video I’ve seen.
to get those amazing numbers especially with rwd cars, magazine/reviewers flog the cars til they get the best numbers, You'd be hard pressed to get a stock rwd vehicle over ~400hp+ to pull magazine numbers on regular roads every time.
As people mentioned here, stock tires are not good. Swap them with Michelin's 4S and you're shaving a minimum of 0.2 seconds right off the bat.
nice to see a V8.... it will be really interesting to have in both cars a "dragy" measurament device or similar, for sure it will give a really good database of 0-100, 50-100 etc... to compare cars from different videos, but with similar power etc... regards!
Please do RC-F vs IS500 !
In Sport+ Manual Mode!
For $100 a tork tcu tune lowers the 0-60 to 3.8 sec.
Stinger gotta be producing at least 400hp
No its just turbo'd so it makes power way lower in the RPM range compared the the Lexus. Digs always favor turbo'd cars. In the roll the IS500 easily wins because it does have significantly more power.
And a $1200 jb4 mod adds quite a bit of horsepower, e30 mix and map4 destroys most competition!!
I really like how the Lexus looks and sounds. To me, another 50-100 horsepower would make it a lot more convincing.
I tought that ofcourse lexus gonna win easly because of having 100hp more but im suprise they both Goes pretty close together.I personally own stinger GT and has few mods done to it already long time ago and even with jb4,Cat delete,Cat back exhaust and intakes for same reason the car feel slow to me already like it has 200hp but seems like its faster then i even tought but i Just Got use to the power and car itself that maks me Fall a sleep when i drive hard.great video by the way.
It is time for us to upgrade to a next level vehicle. I am thinking EV6 GT, but still not sure about EV in general...
@@kenyaswallow5782 i would never buy any electric car no metter on power and Look.maybe gtr or c7 or c8.i like gasoline engines
But that reliability though 😅
Did you watch the whole video? The IS 500 "reliably" walked the Stinger in the roll races.
I’ve never seen someone on this channel that actually knows how to race a car
Prediction: *unless* the IS500 can get a good launch, the Stinger wins the dig race, while the IS500 wins the roll easily. AWD is a double-edged sword: better and more consistent launches from a dig, but excess weight and powertrain loses from a roll.
The 392 challenger destroy the stinger and it has 15hp more then the is500 and it Wight more then the stinger. And its RWD
You nailed it.
Love the noise of the V8 coming from a Stinger driver.
I would like to see what a tuned stinger can do they can make 450 to 500 whp with a ecu tune and some basic bolt ons on pump gas
Is500 wouldn't be seen on the screen then
its also pointless to fair a car against a car that has 100 more hp. Whats fair would be both similar power alas stinger tuned. Silly accord.
MY stinger gt2 awd is making over 500 on the dyno plus in 488 torque by adding a performance catback exhaust, cold air intakes and a tune. Total added price in mods 2000k how fast 0-60 in 3.8 to 3.7 and 1/4 mile in 11.9-11.8 depending on the day using 104rt fuel
@@billgere5293 please bring it to sams channel. I would like to see it spanking a M340i that cost 25k 🇨🇦 more. You probably from the 🇺🇸 😕
@@avis1978 lol yep how did you guess ???
I think its extremely impressive that Lexus built a v8 during these times for a sport sedan. But my stinger with jb4 makes Over 400whp and 500wtq. You would need to add forced induction to that Lexus to get those kind of numbers.... Which would be fantastic....
also have a stinger w/ jb4, intake and exhaust. Did you dyno that?
Hey as a Lexus guy through and through. You gotta do the digg in manual / sport + / and have traction control AND stability control off.(press and hold Traction button) Plus get some good tires. Pilot sport 4 (s) at least. Build revs to just under 2k and drop the 🎤. I swear my gs350 fsport gets outta the hole better than that 500. I'm running pilot sport 4s tires.
On Sam's channel everything will get beat by a kia or Hyundai....the is500 runs a 12.7 1/4 and the best a stinger can do is a 13.1, there is no way....this channel is trash...editing at its finest.
Yeah , the traction control in these Lexus’s is very intrusive. Even the most minute ( my-noot ) loss of traction kills the power …. That’s where the pedal dance comes in handy + sport and manual mode …. Get ready for a whole different animal .
I immediately swapped the pos oem Potenzas on my IS500 for Michelin Pilot Sport 4s summer tires. Wow the difference that make. This is my 1st rwd car I had a STI awd before upgrading.
@@moonman_8935 no doubt it's a huge difference.
@@mattsmith7379 I am sure it benefits the channel to have content that is Surprising and gets people talking.
Here’s a commenter without fanboying either cars like much of the comment section. Having an opportunity test driven both cars before I bought a different car, I love what these two cars offer here. These are the representations of ignoring the SUV norm and push for performance sedans from their respective brands. The IS500 will certainly hold more value than the Stinger simply by the fact it’s a Lexus and it’s the last V8 sedan before Toyota is forced to go electrified in the next decade. The Stinger is the type of car that follows the steps of German cars, as Albert Biermann intended, but with the value prospect of buying a Kia. To me, I’d still go for a IS500 simply because I love the Lexus quality than most brands, they hold up.
Sad day for lexus if it loses
Only from a dig because of the awd system in the stinger.THe is500 is faster and overall a much better car.Better engine,looks better(opinion) and of course better reliability and durability.
@@alpe6228 the red is faster.
Why hate on cars you cannot afford lol
2020 stingergt2. A great car.
@@alpe6228 Have you seen the 15 year old tech in the IS500? I agree the V8 is great but the 3.3T is pretty good stock but tuned, it's a monster.
Stinger gt is a beast . Punches way above its weight . There’s no way it just beat a Lexus with more hp and lighter
You have to understand turbos spin in torque at low RPMs. The Lexus IS straight motor and take longer to reach peak torque
I’d definitely sell the Lexus after this also
Says a guy with a G37 inifinity BAHAHAHAHA
Why it won the rolling races and would have the dig as well if sam could drive
@@mattsmith7379 barely, very barely
You seem sad if all you care about is dig races. If someone raced you from a roll, you would want the IS 500.
The Stinger may be faster from a dig but only one of these vehicles has been discontinued. Everyone online wants to talk about how great of a car they are but the fact is very few people actually put their money where their mouth was and bought one.
Not discontinued at all lol they’re making 2023s right now and haven’t officially announced any cancellations yet
Do you understand car company are going electric ditching gas engines right? I hate this because we can’t support many more electric cars on our grid but it’s political and the truth.
IS sounds WAY better though!
Performance>sound
@@davidjitt8097 The IS killed the Kia on a roll. The IS just needs couple minor bolt-ons and it'll also win the dig. "Kia" LOL!
@@MidwestMotor lets put a couple parts on that Kia. "Lexus" LOL Caught the gap from a Kia. Pfft. Loser.
@@davidjitt8097 Well the is500 is also faster.
@@alpe6228 it lost
Dude in stinger acting like his life depends on the outcome of the race. 😂😂😂😂
I will take the is500 allll day.
I own one & love it plus I had a STI which is awd & don't miss it at all lol
@@moonman_8935 Great car man.
A new chip and new plugs sets you back 600 bucks and gets you 70 more hp on the Stinger. They undertuned the Stinger 3.3TT like crazy at the factory.
The 3.3TT is nice but i expected a little more out of it. Ive seen them get gapped by smaller displacement turbo 6 cylinders. Im talking mod for mod here