@Catholic Firefighter I own an S5 and r8 Spyder as you can see on my profile... With launch control, the car wouldn't even sound like that at the start. You'd know that if you could afford either. Why would I be jealous of a "Kia" lmao...have you seen the inside of that garbage ?
Gentlemen, let’s face it there’s good bad and ugly in every brand.The stinger is actually a pretty good car, they run very well. I also like the Audi. I truly believe that the reason they may stop making the stinger is because it was just never marketed correctly. I have met so many people that asked me what I drive and I tell them it’s a stinger and they say they have never heard of it.
@@Febreezi probably not next year but I do believe they will bring it back. The stingers didn’t really sell well because no one wants to spend 50k on a Kia for that price they rather buy a Mercedes or Audi
That's crazy. My friend had a 2015 s4 and that think was crazy fast for me. To think Kia has gotten this good is damn impressive. Hate or love them, you have to tip your hat towards them. Well done Kia!
Why so shocked? Very similar specs. The Stinger is a little heavier but has a little more power and torque. This was an outstanding race btw. The KIA looks gorgeous!
Audi tends to under-rated their cars because apparently customers like surprises, lmao. So, yeah it's somewhat of a surprise. But then again, it seems the s5 is the slowest of all the s cars.
Just got a stinger over the last weekend. Coming from a charger, I can honestly say the Stinger is (for me) so many miles ahead. But in general, the Stinger is an absolute perfect car. The audi is also a great looking and handling car, but kia is just killing it right now! I can only hope somehow kia changes their mind about discontinuing them 😭
This 2022 stinger is going to be my next purchase, have been holding out since 2018 when it came on the scene, I think I've waited long enough,. Time to pull the trigger.
@@HellzHonour lol exactly.. if that stinger built as much boost on launch as the audi i couldnt even imagine.. nobody understands that the audi is building boost on those launches and the stinger isnt!
@@lilmoris1 Dunno. Just purchased a GT2 awd and have received more compliments in the last week than on 4 of my previous cars. Type-R will be missed but omg, I love this car for everything in a package. I think Hyundai/Kia are no longer "meh", to most people.
After reading all the comments y’all are to funny the Audi fanboys/stinger haters have so many excuses 1. Stinger is not stock 2. S5 owner doesn’t know how to launch 3.S5 owner was sandbagging 4.S5 has heavy wheels 5. S5 has a intake that is making it slower 6. S5 was using 91 There is more I’m sure lol. Get over it the stinger is quicker. The S5 has a superior LC and jumps out but the stinger will always pull it back and pass it because it is just the overall quicker car. Go look at the results from car and driver test of S5 and stinger gt awd. Look at all the test results at the bottom you’ll clearly see the stinger is quicker. Stinger is a great car the S5 is a great car the stinger is just a lil bit quicker……..get over it.
@@SamCarLegion honestly TFL uses it and they get so far below mfg time that you could just state a disclaimer beforehand and you should be ok with all reasonable people.
I think it's a good idea.. Sam, even though there will be nay sayers, it's just for reference.. Just download the DR app on your phone. it's not super accurate, but it's close enough, just for reference... have other drivers download it too, and report the times both apps say per car, for talking points.. even for the negative trollers.. it's all good..
@@SamCarLegion Maybeee.. but you've to remember a good amount of us know racing variables with elevation and DA ect. It would show the true differences down to a tenth of a second of each car. I say do it!
I've been waiting for these to cars to be raced against each other for more than one year now. Both impressive. On my books, the stinger is the winner specially when U consider the price. Thanks man
Yessss I’ve seen some runs between a stock RS3 and stock RS5 and it seems like the RS5 is a little quicker, I reckon a TTRS would be a much better run for the RS5.
No you pay for the luxury interior and smooth ride of the Audi these cars are not meant to be dragsters or even race cars they are meant to be smooth cruisers first with a hint of performance second
@@mik55tv22 don't get me wrong Audi's are my favourite cars but a lot of it you'd be paying for is the brand. Both interiors will last the average life of the car. Audi would have better quality and smoother to drive no doubt, but it won't be that far off.
@@mik55tv22 facts, stinger gt is like buying a Nike running shoe from wish. It's quality that im paying for. Don't have the money? Kia would be a better choice. Seen an RS5 Sportback in real life and damn it's such a beautiful plus the interior. Stinger again is a lot better than before :)
@@mik55tv22 I dunno, for $60k+ I wouldn’t want a “hint” of performance 😉 they’re both great. Kia simply wins on one fact: punching above its weight. It’s truly a great car. As is the S4 and the S5, I’ve been in a few. I’m not sure it’s $20k better.
@@DefsnotJay RS5 sport back is an incredible car. I think everyone wants to root for the Kia because we’ve never had a Kia like this before, ever! 90s Kia Sephia didn’t instill in me a sense of “wow this company will make fast promo cars one day” 🤣
Stinger was pulling on the roll races 100% so props to Kia! But the S5 won both sport mode races by more than a car which is what matters in an actual off the line race to finish. Not sure what people are looking at. Drive mode puts the Audi to sleep for a reason. If you have ever driven an Audi in Drive you would know how dulled down they are so pointless in my eyes. Anyhow very evenly matched nice video! Audi wins the Drag Stinger wins the roll.
@@stlswagger If we are talking stock as in this video then it must be about stock modes. I'm sorry my friend I think it would be the other way around. Older S4/5 supercharged for much less money will kill both of these current cars with much less spent.
Considering that the Stinger has a 265 lb disadvantage in curb weight, the equivalent of an NFL linebacker sitting in the passenger seat, the results are even more impressive. It would be interesting to see if the same results occur in lap times around the track.
@@SuperDukes18 an extra 9 HP and 7 lb-ft of torque is supposed to make this less impressive? It’s Kia’s first attempt at a sport sedan and it costs almost $10k less than the Audi. It’s impressive…don’t get so upset if you own an Audi
@@MrChosenOne757 same, I bought a used 18 GT and I absolutely love it. With the korean E badge people always come up to me thinking it’s a Jaguar or a Maserati
Yeah definitely gonna go for a stinger. Me and my wife had a optima and she really loved that car, that’s why we were thinking about a k5 gt but she seen some videos of the stinger and instantly fell in love with the car lol
Use the paddles on the kia when roll racing, shift at about 5200 or so. Do not go to redline or let it shift itself, it's been proven to be slower. Can confirm as well being a Stinger owner who races it 😁. Overall great video again!
Wow huge props to Kia for what they’ve got going on. Would still prefer the Audi for looks and cabin quality but man those Stingers are impressive cars.
I own a stinger gt2, and I can tell you, it’s super premium. The seats are a dream, the trans is butter, it has excellent ride quality, and is just a well built car. Audi is also equally as impressive. Kia knocked it out of the park with the stinger. Through in a 10 year warranty and it’s a performance deal that can’t be beat for how nice it is
The fact that’s he’s so surprised by the Stinger GT is genuinely hilarious lol. Everyone knows those cars are fast as shit. It’s a bargain S5/4 in every sense.
Results are exactly as I expected ! to be honest. I already knew on paper, they are pretty much the same.... Fun to see them. I wish I made it out for this day (rpm auto reviews here replying from my other page).. Love my Stinger. I was at SMP track today doing some runs & videos 😃
@@ikeali105 the interior is way nicer in the Audi. Better materials and layout. I really like the stinger but I don't like the round vents and tacked on screen.
What won me on the Audi is the build quality, cabin layout and the legendary quattro. A small premium to pay? Maybe, but worth it IMO. Loving my 18 S5 Sportback Technik all day everyday. When warranty is over, a 600$ Unitronic stage 1+ tune bumps it up to 454hp…
I've owned both now, And you cannot beat an Audi interior. Kia's is nice, but not the same refinement and fit. The Kia is much more practical day to day, but I put almost 350K on the Audi with 0 issues and just regular maintenance, and spend way too much time on warranty work with the Kia. Never powertrain thankfully, always electrical and A/C issues.
Those are great cars, can't believe people are so stuck with suv's when that king of cars are availeble...Those people must hate driving...wouldnot be shy to own any of those two! I knew the Stinger was a fast one, but with this video, you've proved with any dout it is...keep the good work mr. Sam!🤙
Ever been in a tuned S/Q5 3.0t supercharged SUV? Stage I tunes with no other mods can be 12 second cars with 440ish hp. Granted it's more car than SUV 😁
I have a Stinger GT in the same color. I love it. I have people asking about all the time. I'll take it over any of the BMWs, Audis, Alfa and Lexus I've owned.
So only reason kia is keeping up is 3 things. Peter schreyer, audi genius. The emissions in germany and korea are vastly different, and displacement. The 3.3 is a literal bomb and is incredibly unreliable especially the turbos. Whilst Audis reliability is absolutely phenomenal, other than your typical electronics issues and recalls
i have a Stinger Gt I feel like a celebrity how ppl look back at me when im passing, everyday i receive compliments like "Aye man i just want know wtf is that"? Im truly blessed to have one.
Great car the kia stinger gt, id certainly choose it over an audi, much better looking car, when ever i see one drive by i always look an check it out, ur lucky to have one stunning vehicle 👌👍👍
@@johnwhite2143 I know brodie, I feel like the limited color options are for our imaginations to become true but irs many car makers those exotic color options.. Kia has to get more demand and hype for even the effort.. we need more stingers on U.S soil first but... it definitely would be a sick wrap Geeze. I seen on with a decked out bar and vapor fall inside!!
*“What, what, what is going on here?”* That's literally the same reaction I get when I surprised cars with my *Toyota Aurion* aka *V6 Camry* aka *family car* aka *soccer mom's car* whenever someone tries to drag me. 😁
It was neck and neck, when both in their best performance mode.. so really no one killed anyone.. Audi defense, it's normal mode must not behave the same in full throttle, like the Stingers does.. if notice races vs. Stinger, it always does about the same in sport mode vs. comfort mode... because in full throttle, it's tuned to sense you want FULL Tilt and just does that everytime regardless of mode... so they were basically tied, Equals.
Something is wrong here… watch any other channel even later videos on this channel. There is absolutely no way the kia stays with the Audi, even less likely beats it
@Catholic Firefighter I have an audi and a kia and had a genesis and I promise you get what you pay for the kia isn't a bad car but the build quality just doesn't compare
For all the clowns watch and listen @ 6:29.... The Audi driver clearly was not engaging the Launch control which is so damn obvious especially if you've driven an Audi.
the thing people seem to not understand here and alot of people just flat out dont know is that the Kia stinger builds 0 boost on any launch not even launch control!!!! the audi Will build boost on launch meaning it should win a dig every time considering it has boost right away! with kias 10 year 100k warranty they didnt want to fork out to much money with people doing a shit ton of boosted launches!
S5 Sportback owner here. When I traded in my 19 mustang GT PP, I was looking for a spacious sedan with power and comfort. I was actually looking at the stinger GT with AWD. The ride was surprisingly balanced and the car looked beautiful. I ultimately went with the S5 because the build quality and features were just miles better and Quattro feels far more planted on launches and corners. But I was really close to pulling the trigger on that stinger. If I hadn't run into the S5 I would have one. Kia is on the right track.
Ok, the Stinger is on par with the Audi on the track, where most people don’t do much driving…now how about fit, finish and materials…the Audi is way out of the KIA’s league, it’s the Audi for me, especially on the road…mine drives like it’s on rails through turns, and the feel is extremely luxurious to boot!
Im a G70 owner and will probably get an Audi for my next vehicle but yeah a Kia is still a Kia unfortunately. I guess Im a sucker for the luxury brands and will never get a Kia personally but no knock on people who buy them they look nice but just not my cup of tea.
This guy didn’t even use launch control in the stinger 🤦🏻♂️ Lmao the stinger wins any race against the s5 stock for stock any day of the week, if you know how to drive
Kia still has crap material that it makes the vehicles out of. Getting better but not close to the Germans yet. Do not believe me. Go sit in a new Kia and a new audi. If that does not help get your nose checked. That simple
Kia is better than plenty of companies . Audi as well. But id buy Kia Sorento 2022. I am fs buying a stinger. I have 2022 k5 ex, and 2022 audi q3 both 184 hp :,( . But i will eventually go for audi q8 and stinger gt once they make their final gas power vehicles .
You know what else is ridiculous when your kia stinger is making 480 whp and does 0-60 3.6. With a piggy back tune that just hides boost from ecu air intakes exhaust wow!
@Booby Belly intercooler 3inch charge pipe ,intakes ,high flow primary cat, down pipe no cats mbrp exhaust hks plugs jb4 map 3 on 93 octane with all the wires.
@Booby Belly ive never raced a trackhawk but i respect them. I own a gt awd that is below the gt1 it Weigh about 300lbs lighter then the on in this vid that is a gt2. With upgraded turbo fuel sys and meth another 8grand 700+ hp yes. What makes the kia stinger fast is ability to have that 365hp at 1700 rpm to redline. Meny stock dyno runs show factory output to be higher then stock most of the time. The awd stinger put out 2psi of boost more then rwd to make up for drive train power loss.
Are you sure the mods aren’t affecting the performance? I went from running a 12.95 @ 108 mph 1/4 mile to a 12.62 @ 111 mph simply by replacing the stock snorkels on my Stinger with aftermarket ones. That Stinger may not be tuned but it looked faster than stock.
It’s not faster then stock the stinger is quicker then the S5 in every scenario besides the S5 using LC. Look at car and driver tests on awd stinger and S5 it’s quicker in every metric besides 0-60 but pretty much catches up at 1/4 mile. And rolling 5-60 50-70 70-100 stinger is all significantly quicker.
@Catholic Firefighter you must not have owned a turbo car before. All my cars are turbo cars and you can easily gain 15-25 hp with just an intake upgrade. It depends on how restrictive the stock intake is. With a less restrictive intake you can gain 1-2 psi of boost which equals more power.
The S5 launch control is superior it wins off the lineusing LC but stinger pulls it back. But in every other aspect rolling or just mashing the throttle the stinger pulls on S5 💯.
@Tim4 you get a chance to test the LC on a 2022 Stinger yet? The built-in boost gauge actually shows it building boost during LC. I dunno if the gauge showed boost building in the prior model years. You ever checked the gauge on yours during LC?
@@Maljey I don’t have a 2022 model. This car in the test def isn’t a 2022 model. But the whole stinger community knows it doesn’t build boost. It’s been tested. I doubt the 2022 model builds boost. I have a base GT AWD so I don’t have boost gauge. Watch the straight pipes review of the original stinger they show the gauge using LC it does nothing maybe .5 PSI lol Kia/Genesis did this to protect drivetrain can’t have motors blowing up with 10 year warranties.
@@Tsand4 yeah, but apparently there are rumors of the LC being changed on 2022 models. See this thread: stingerforum (dot) org/threads/question-about-launch-control-2022-awd-gt1.21882/
@@Maljey also in my stinger using regular LC my 0-60 is 4.5-4.6 When I can actually build boost on launch doing the parking brake launch my 0-60 goes down to 4.2-4.3 same as S5.
@@Tsand4 Yeah man I'm subbed to your channel and seen the vids. I just got a 2022 GT1 AWD recently but I'm still letting it break in before I mess with the LC. I don't have a draggy, so I won't be able to get any numbers anyway.
I don’t understand why you’re suprised , the stinger has more hp more torque and it weighs about the same if not less .. it’s called science and common sense
That was fun to watch. We know the Germans are fond of underrated power figures on paper. That being said I expected the S5 to pull away and keep it's lead in all the races.
Really enjoyed this one. Thanks for putting these two together. I’m not much into racing, I just love cars. But coming from a noob, it was fun watching, as well as seeing your excitement.
I've had 2 Audi's and 2 BMW's. Out of 2 Audi's...both had oil leakage and required a motor reseal & ultimately one had to get motor replaced. One BMW had a torn subframe & electrical problems (the other was newer and I sold within one year so it prob had issues too...lol). So 3 out of 4 had major defective (not even issues...just plain defects). I'd take a Ford PInto over any European car for reliability. Hahaha
kia hyundai putting a 7yr warranty against their product while BMW and Audi going only 3yrs says a lot. Love my stinger, and I stepped over from an e90!
It's to bad everyone thought that the Audi even had a chance. When Kia brought this car out it was a great kept secret. It's funny how we always think the cars with names like Audi BMW Mercedes are so much better and faster. Nope. All they are is more expensive for the same options but can't compete with the power of the stinger
Lol this wasn't biased at all 🙄 the S5 with rotary forged wheels, an intake, with a 300lbs lighter curb weight and AWD still got gapped consistently from a dig by a completely stock (under the hood) Stinger, I cannot wait to buy a 2022 GT2 and start upgrading stuff lol, the thing us a beast!
Stinger not only beat the S5 but was pulling away the longer they went !! Very impressive. I love both of these cars but for the price difference ($12k-$15k in the US), 10 year warranty and now actually faster..... Stinger > S5 !! Thanks again Sam - Great Job.
I am really surprised by these results as well. While both cars have similar power numbers on paper, I always hear how Audi/BMW/Merc will underrate their stock HP numbers. Some people say the numbers reported by them are the hp numbers to the wheels? So I'm very surprised to see the Kia keep up and even surpass the S5.
Look at car and driver tests of AWD stinger and S5 besides the 0-60 and 1/4 mile which stinger pretty much catches up the stinger is quicker in every metric. They do a lot of different types of pulls a lot of rolling runs stinger is quicker in every one. And it passes the S5 in the 0-130mph by over a second.
@@Tsand4 That's why I wonder if Kia underrated the HP numbers on the Stinger as well. The Stinger is super close to the Challenger RT (5.7) in HP and weight. But it always performs better than Challenger RT in straight line. I'm sure some of it is due to Challenger tires but it's still surprising.
@@Maljey I think it is somewhat underrated but not like how bmw does saying the m340i is 382hp n it’s really pushin 450 lol instead of 365 it might be like 380-390 or somewhere around there.
“What, what, what is going on here?” Haha surprised how well the Stinger GT played with the S5? Both terrific vehicles. Great video Sam as always!
You know me!
That Audi Driver didnt even figure out the proper launch control until the 4th run then the Kia got smoked off the line
@Catholic Firefighter To some people, $7k is worth it for a quality car. We not comparing Audi to BMW here. Its a Kia
@@TheZimbeatz Got smoked? They were neck-to-neck. Even more, the stinger caught up to the s5 fast.
@Catholic Firefighter I own an S5 and r8 Spyder as you can see on my profile... With launch control, the car wouldn't even sound like that at the start. You'd know that if you could afford either. Why would I be jealous of a "Kia" lmao...have you seen the inside of that garbage ?
I don't see anyone making fun of Kia's anymore, but rather becoming fan of it. 😁
Still rocking my '13 Optima SXL.. A great freaking car as well.. Time to upgrade
I need to drive one i bet it drives very nice
Love my Stinger….!!!
People still make fun of it. I have a Niro though. Great car but boring. Stinger just isn’t practical for me plus I drive like an old man nowadays.
@@al821 I have a 2017 Niro - love it!!!
KIA is killing it with the Stinger...
Yeah they are literally killing it for good😂
That’s why they have stopped making them isn’t it? No one buys them
@@aaront3214 No, because they're switching to electric next year
Gentlemen, let’s face it there’s good bad and ugly in every brand.The stinger is actually a pretty good car, they run very well. I also like the Audi. I truly believe that the reason they may stop making the stinger is because it was just never marketed correctly. I have met so many people that asked me what I drive and I tell them it’s a stinger and they say they have never heard of it.
@@Febreezi probably not next year but I do believe they will bring it back. The stingers didn’t really sell well because no one wants to spend 50k on a Kia for that price they rather buy a Mercedes or Audi
That's crazy. My friend had a 2015 s4 and that think was crazy fast for me. To think Kia has gotten this good is damn impressive. Hate or love them, you have to tip your hat towards them. Well done Kia!
I’ve had a 2014 s4…traded in for a new stinger gt2 last year, it’s fast.
@@3000gtVic I have a 2015 s4 and it gaps those gutless stingers lol
@@lexman8678the 2.0 maybe. Fucking clown
@@lexman8678 no it doesnt
@@lexman8678 even if it did, the S4 is a more compact sedan and it doesn’t have a hatch
In my humble opinion, the Stinger is the best value for money, bang for bucks car on the road.
I am biased. I love mine.
Can't argue with that, this was an amazing race.
It literally is
I love mine too!
Audi is better built and has better materials in it.
@@sammyg4806 that stinger is modified. No way that’s stock
Weight, hp, and torque disadvantage... but still faster.
DIDN'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO MY EXPECTATIONS! JUST INSANE
Now these were good races!!! Much better comparison than the Stinger vs. RS5 !!! The Stinger is a beast within its class! Good video...
Even Sam was surprised at the results lol. Good runs!
Sam's reaction was the best part of the video lol
@@Mightyxenos lol agreed
Why so shocked? Very similar specs. The Stinger is a little heavier but has a little more power and torque. This was an outstanding race btw. The KIA looks gorgeous!
@@Turtle-sz7sk hahaha
because that S5 is tuned and still lost
Audi tends to under-rated their cars because apparently customers like surprises, lmao. So, yeah it's somewhat of a surprise. But then again, it seems the s5 is the slowest of all the s cars.
@Catholic Firefighter lol
You’re right about the specs but that Kia is UGLY Lol that’s subjective though
Also the Kia will cost you a 1/3 in maintenance of what the Audi will.
That would be nice but at least in Germany I think it's not that much a difference, maybe 10 or 20 percent less maintenance costs.
also burn in fire with engine OFF.
@@lucienl9465 big mad 😂
@@ELP1125 you are dumb.
recalls are in place for all engines since 2011
@@lucienl9465 what models are being recalled
Just got a stinger over the last weekend. Coming from a charger, I can honestly say the Stinger is (for me) so many miles ahead. But in general, the Stinger is an absolute perfect car. The audi is also a great looking and handling car, but kia is just killing it right now! I can only hope somehow kia changes their mind about discontinuing them 😭
@@JVeleta11 2016 Charger SXT 😁
I just got my wife a 2023 gt2 rwd, and it's stupid fun to drive. Crazy fast
As someone who got a stinger around 9 months ago same.
Got nothing on my second stage 22’ Rio
@@FreeCoding-ko8vb LMAO
The Hyundai Motor Corporation has come a long way. Hyundai, Kia & Genesis are marketing some really impressive vehicles!
Grow !!
This 2022 stinger is going to be my next purchase, have been holding out since 2018 when it came on the scene, I think I've waited long enough,. Time to pull the trigger.
Same here lol I’m getting mines in September 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Do it! I love mine, you’ll be happy you did 👌🏼
Wait longer u might have to pay markup lol
Now a good time to buy cars with all the chips shortages. That’ll give u mark ups
@@Uncrowned_King_Benz it’s a terrible time to buy cars. Who buys high and sells… high?
Audi's are launch monster's so let's see how the Stinger matches up to it!
With full boost was an clear Audi advantage otherwise the twin turbo on the Stinger was impressive!
Stinger’s launch control builds ZERO boost so it’s not as good. There are ECU tunes that build boost on Launch Control and it’s much quicker.
@@HellzHonour lol exactly.. if that stinger built as much boost on launch as the audi i couldnt even imagine.. nobody understands that the audi is building boost on those launches and the stinger isnt!
Another great race, really shocked how fast that Stinger GT is.
The name gives it a “meh” reputation, but the Stigners are no joke
The whole World is shocked! The Stinger is just hands down a hot bitch!
@@lilmoris1 Dunno. Just purchased a GT2 awd and have received more compliments in the last week than on 4 of my previous cars. Type-R will be missed but omg, I love this car for everything in a package. I think Hyundai/Kia are no longer "meh", to most people.
2020 stinger gt tt panthera metal chameleon trim.
@@stevesutherland7703 - You should be over they Type R by now….don’t look back! Whenever I pull up to a Type R, they already know the deal…lol
After reading all the comments y’all are to funny the Audi fanboys/stinger haters have so many excuses
1. Stinger is not stock
2. S5 owner doesn’t know how to launch
3.S5 owner was sandbagging
4.S5 has heavy wheels
5. S5 has a intake that is making it slower
6. S5 was using 91
There is more I’m sure lol. Get over it the stinger is quicker. The S5 has a superior LC and jumps out but the stinger will always pull it back and pass it because it is just the overall quicker car. Go look at the results from car and driver test of S5 and stinger gt awd. Look at all the test results at the bottom you’ll clearly see the stinger is quicker. Stinger is a great car the S5 is a great car the stinger is just a lil bit quicker……..get over it.
whats even funnier is that the audi is building 50% of its boost on launch while the stinger has 0 boost on launch and it was still that close!
The audi would have outrun the kia , but the camera took it off
You need to use a Dragy on these runs so we can tell if they are running stock times or not.
Useless- opening a can of warms.
@@SamCarLegion What do you mean??
@@SamCarLegion honestly TFL uses it and they get so far below mfg time that you could just state a disclaimer beforehand and you should be ok with all reasonable people.
I think it's a good idea.. Sam, even though there will be nay sayers, it's just for reference.. Just download the DR app on your phone. it's not super accurate, but it's close enough, just for reference... have other drivers download it too, and report the times both apps say per car, for talking points.. even for the negative trollers.. it's all good..
@@SamCarLegion Maybeee.. but you've to remember a good amount of us know racing variables with elevation and DA ect. It would show the true differences down to a tenth of a second of each car. I say do it!
This is a great matchup. Thanks for the incredible content. Keep it coming.
I've been waiting for these to cars to be raced against each other for more than one year now. Both impressive. On my books, the stinger is the winner specially when U consider the price.
Thanks man
Audi just waste of money you can buy charger or challenger scat pack widebody or Kia gt with that price of s5
@@hamzarivera1399 Except all 3 of those cars are trash and hideous. Fast yes but crap.
TTRS Vs RS5
Will make it happen
Yessss I’ve seen some runs between a stock RS3 and stock RS5 and it seems like the RS5 is a little quicker, I reckon a TTRS would be a much better run for the RS5.
@@SamCarLegion TLX type s vs stinger
I think the TTRS or RS3 would take the rs5
@@PapiAndrey yeah ttrs would take the rs5. It's lighter more aerodynamic than the rs3 and also quicker and faster than the rs3 as well
Paying for the brand vs realistic value + performance. This kia looks so good.
No you pay for the luxury interior and smooth ride of the Audi these cars are not meant to be dragsters or even race cars they are meant to be smooth cruisers first with a hint of performance second
@@mik55tv22 don't get me wrong Audi's are my favourite cars but a lot of it you'd be paying for is the brand. Both interiors will last the average life of the car. Audi would have better quality and smoother to drive no doubt, but it won't be that far off.
@@mik55tv22 facts, stinger gt is like buying a Nike running shoe from wish. It's quality that im paying for. Don't have the money? Kia would be a better choice. Seen an RS5 Sportback in real life and damn it's such a beautiful plus the interior. Stinger again is a lot better than before :)
@@mik55tv22 I dunno, for $60k+ I wouldn’t want a “hint” of performance 😉 they’re both great. Kia simply wins on one fact: punching above its weight. It’s truly a great car. As is the S4 and the S5, I’ve been in a few. I’m not sure it’s $20k better.
@@DefsnotJay RS5 sport back is an incredible car. I think everyone wants to root for the Kia because we’ve never had a Kia like this before, ever! 90s Kia Sephia didn’t instill in me a sense of “wow this company will make fast promo cars one day” 🤣
Stinger was pulling on the roll races 100% so props to Kia! But the S5 won both sport mode races by more than a car which is what matters in an actual off the line race to finish. Not sure what people are looking at. Drive mode puts the Audi to sleep for a reason. If you have ever driven an Audi in Drive you would know how dulled down they are so pointless in my eyes.
Anyhow very evenly matched nice video! Audi wins the Drag Stinger wins the roll.
What matters is cost per smile. Don't make it just about modes. The Kia would kill the Audi once dollars are spent on mods
@@stlswagger If we are talking stock as in this video then it must be about stock modes. I'm sorry my friend I think it would be the other way around. Older S4/5 supercharged for much less money will kill both of these current cars with much less spent.
Considering that the Stinger has a 265 lb disadvantage in curb weight, the equivalent of an NFL linebacker sitting in the passenger seat, the results are even more impressive. It would be interesting to see if the same results occur in lap times around the track.
The Stinger also has 2 turbos (S5 has only 1), .3l larger engine., 1 more gear to play with.
Not really. Stinger has higher HP and torque so they even out
@@SuperDukes18 an extra 9 HP and 7 lb-ft of torque is supposed to make this less impressive? It’s Kia’s first attempt at a sport sedan and it costs almost $10k less than the Audi. It’s impressive…don’t get so upset if you own an Audi
Gotta Love the Koreans!!!
Kia’s are still trash.
Case dismissed.
The Kia Stinger GT was build in Germany by EX BMW engineers, so technically is a German car.
Priced like one too
I remember when I used to make fun of Kia and now I’m looking at a stinger or maybe a k5gt haven’t really decided yet, but I’m gonna get one of them.
Get the Stinger you will get people attention I had mines over a year and people still come to me
@@MrChosenOne757 same, I bought a used 18 GT and I absolutely love it. With the korean E badge people always come up to me thinking it’s a Jaguar or a Maserati
Stingy Boi if you can afford it
Get Stinger and you won't regret because I own a gt2 AWD it's so stable and fast
Yeah definitely gonna go for a stinger. Me and my wife had a optima and she really loved that car, that’s why we were thinking about a k5 gt but she seen some videos of the stinger and instantly fell in love with the car lol
I’ll take the Stinger.
Il take the audi
@@nicolasmigabo I’ll take The Redeye Hellcat and $5 million dollars.
@@blackdragon9077 I'll take the trackhawk and 5k
Trading my a3 Quattro for gt1...
I can't wait!!!!!
@@pyner0s496 I take a GTR R35 😋💸
Something does add up... quarter mile: S5 sportback-12.8/Stinger-13.1, soooo how was the Stinger smacking the S5 around?
that thing doesn't look half bad.... I'd take the audi all day but the kia is a very good attempt.
Use the paddles on the kia when roll racing, shift at about 5200 or so. Do not go to redline or let it shift itself, it's been proven to be slower. Can confirm as well being a Stinger owner who races it 😁. Overall great video again!
Great tip! Is this for all gears? Or mainly 1-4 when flooring it from a dig? Just picked up a 2018 GT a month ago!
@CACTIII yep do it for all gears! My best is 11.66@119 so far. Jb4 map 4 and FBO
my stock m340i mop the floor with all these cars 😅
Folks, Korea now is not a country that can be ignored at all...
Only the uneducated one's watching "MESH" on tv and still think that's Korea now...it's ridiculous...
Wow huge props to Kia for what they’ve got going on. Would still prefer the Audi for looks and cabin quality but man those Stingers are impressive cars.
stinger looks bettter imo
@@rainhopper8694 true audi always make the same designs but its a cool car
Im sorry but the stinger looks much better, as for cabin quality yes ill give it to audi
I own a stinger gt2, and I can tell you, it’s super premium. The seats are a dream, the trans is butter, it has excellent ride quality, and is just a well built car. Audi is also equally as impressive. Kia knocked it out of the park with the stinger. Through in a 10 year warranty and it’s a performance deal that can’t be beat for how nice it is
@@mikexcanxjerk I’m definitely not going to argue with anyone who thinks they look better, I can see where that argument can be made, it’s pretty
The fact that’s he’s so surprised by the Stinger GT is genuinely hilarious lol. Everyone knows those cars are fast as shit. It’s a bargain S5/4 in every sense.
I am
@@SamCarLegion I was laughing at your reaction the whole time 😂. Love the videos man. You’re a rock star.
@@Soh90 thank you! Blessings:)))
Acura NSX will kill it
Not sure about fast as s#!$ but decent.
Went from a 14 mustang gt to 19 s4. Audi s4 is amazing car. I daily it. And I love it. Audi has won me over
Results are exactly as I expected ! to be honest. I already knew on paper, they are pretty much the same.... Fun to see them. I wish I made it out for this day (rpm auto reviews here replying from my other page).. Love my Stinger. I was at SMP track today doing some runs & videos 😃
Well the Stinger won the roll race
Interesting. I beat a Kia Stinger GT twice with my Golf R stock vs stock
The Audi is nicer. But it's probably cheaper to own the Stinger in the long run. Kia's warranty is pretty good.
Fuck no!!
In what ways is the audi nicer???
Cheaper to buy 15k difference in canada before tax, and 100% to maintain. There is no reason why someone neutral will go for the audi.
In Australia, that Audi would be double the price if specced up to Stinger level. That is a huge amount to pay for a badge.
@@ikeali105 the interior is way nicer in the Audi. Better materials and layout. I really like the stinger but I don't like the round vents and tacked on screen.
Nah, Germans win everytime. This vid is doctored.
This kind of talk sounds familiar.
What won me on the Audi is the build quality, cabin layout and the legendary quattro. A small premium to pay? Maybe, but worth it IMO. Loving my 18 S5 Sportback Technik all day everyday. When warranty is over, a 600$ Unitronic stage 1+ tune bumps it up to 454hp…
I've owned both now, And you cannot beat an Audi interior. Kia's is nice, but not the same refinement and fit. The Kia is much more practical day to day, but I put almost 350K on the Audi with 0 issues and just regular maintenance, and spend way too much time on warranty work with the Kia. Never powertrain thankfully, always electrical and A/C issues.
I also have a 2018 S5 but I went the Integrated Engineering stage 1 ECU/stage 2 TCU route :)
No you haven't. You're an Audi fan boy and full of shite. @@Movie-tf4yd
Those are great cars, can't believe people are so stuck with suv's when that king of cars are availeble...Those people must hate driving...wouldnot be shy to own any of those two! I knew the Stinger was a fast one, but with this video, you've proved with any dout it is...keep the good work mr. Sam!🤙
Totally agree with your comment about SUV's
Ever been in a tuned S/Q5 3.0t supercharged SUV? Stage I tunes with no other mods can be 12 second cars with 440ish hp. Granted it's more car than SUV 😁
Same thing with the stinger and Audi except it’s 11 second car
Missed the point about SUVs...
@@JarrettDooley yes, congrats 440ish horspower 👏 its still a suv. LOL
I have a Stinger GT in the same color. I love it. I have people asking about all the time. I'll take it over any of the BMWs, Audis, Alfa and Lexus I've owned.
The Kia doesn't look stock so?????
It looks like on the roll races, the Kia was actually reeling him in!! I could be wrong though but overall good runs for the stinger!
The s5 jumped on the first roll race
So only reason kia is keeping up is 3 things. Peter schreyer, audi genius. The emissions in germany and korea are vastly different, and displacement. The 3.3 is a literal bomb and is incredibly unreliable especially the turbos. Whilst Audis reliability is absolutely phenomenal, other than your typical electronics issues and recalls
i have a Stinger Gt I feel like a celebrity how ppl look back at me when im passing, everyday i receive compliments like "Aye man i just want know wtf is that"? Im truly blessed to have one.
Great car the kia stinger gt, id certainly choose it over an audi, much better looking car, when ever i see one drive by i always look an check it out, ur lucky to have one stunning vehicle 👌👍👍
@@johnwhite2143 thanks hopefully the continue the production of this masterpiece
@@sodababy7174 could you imagine if kia made them in lime green or neon green as a colour choice be great 💚👍
@@johnwhite2143 I know brodie, I feel like the limited color options are for our imaginations to become true but irs many car makers those exotic color options.. Kia has to get more demand and hype for even the effort.. we need more stingers on U.S soil first but... it definitely would be a sick wrap Geeze. I seen on with a decked out bar and vapor fall inside!!
limit those*
typo
*“What, what, what is going on here?”*
That's literally the same reaction I get when I surprised cars with my *Toyota Aurion* aka *V6 Camry* aka *family car* aka *soccer mom's car* whenever someone tries to drag me. 😁
Damn my bet was on Audi. Kia killed it
It was neck and neck, when both in their best performance mode.. so really no one killed anyone.. Audi defense, it's normal mode must not behave the same in full throttle, like the Stingers does.. if notice races vs. Stinger, it always does about the same in sport mode vs. comfort mode... because in full throttle, it's tuned to sense you want FULL Tilt and just does that everytime regardless of mode... so they were basically tied, Equals.
Something is wrong here… watch any other channel even later videos on this channel. There is absolutely no way the kia stays with the Audi, even less likely beats it
People just stare at my stinger every time they don’t believe it’s a Kia 🤣
that kia got munched in the mode your supposed to be racing in and thats all that really matters...
@Catholic Firefighter I have an audi and a kia and had a genesis and I promise you get what you pay for the kia isn't a bad car but the build quality just doesn't compare
@Catholic Firefighter be honest about what you don't think I have an audi? It's a 2013 s5
You've gotten better with take off,
Love what kia/hyndyi/Genesis are doing, great runs so looking forward to owning a GV80 or G90
I've owned my G80 Sport for three years now. I'm extremely pleased with the product Genesis has put out. I love my 3.3T engine.
Awesome thanks for letting me know, looking forward to it, just have done test drives and just wow at what these vehicles bring to the table
Have owned a Stinger for a year now. It really is an impressive vehicle for the money.
For all the clowns watch and listen @ 6:29.... The Audi driver clearly was not engaging the Launch control which is so damn obvious especially if you've driven an Audi.
Audi actually lighter than it's competition 🤔 that's rare. Great video as always Sam
Yep
Look at how much bigger it is though. No surprise, actually surprised by the dimensions that the S5 wasn't a bit lighter, so in line with Audi lol
@Catholic Firefighter Wish I was 3 inches longer
@@belvederedog2563 lol
How can vw golf r beat Kia stinger with 4 cylinders with 2.0 tsi and Audi 6 cylinders 3.0 can’t beat it
That is one crazy hell of a drag race😎
Too bad that Kia announced they will cease production of the Stinger after 2022 due to poor sales. Nobody wants to pay $50K for a Kia!
Kia is foreal man
the thing people seem to not understand here and alot of people just flat out dont know is that the Kia stinger builds 0 boost on any launch not even launch control!!!! the audi Will build boost on launch meaning it should win a dig every time considering it has boost right away! with kias 10 year 100k warranty they didnt want to fork out to much money with people doing a shit ton of boosted launches!
S5 Sportback owner here. When I traded in my 19 mustang GT PP, I was looking for a spacious sedan with power and comfort. I was actually looking at the stinger GT with AWD. The ride was surprisingly balanced and the car looked beautiful. I ultimately went with the S5 because the build quality and features were just miles better and Quattro feels far more planted on launches and corners. But I was really close to pulling the trigger on that stinger. If I hadn't run into the S5 I would have one. Kia is on the right track.
@Booby Belly 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol build quality being better
@@TheRealCatof The sign of an idiot who hasn't driven both vehicles.
@@phocas69 Get in any Audi and press on the dash, it will creak like old times stairs.
Cry more.
Totally agree . Audi is way better.
Ok, the Stinger is on par with the Audi on the track, where most people don’t do much driving…now how about fit, finish and materials…the Audi is way out of the KIA’s league, it’s the Audi for me, especially on the road…mine drives like it’s on rails through turns, and the feel is extremely luxurious to boot!
It's good to see that Kia smoking the Audi S5, yet people still say "It'S sTilL a KiA" salty people be like.
Great job Kia/Hyundai/Genesis!
BIDEN!!
It is still a KIA lol. A modded s5 can out perform some of the 911 models but you'd be dumb to not take the 911 as the better car. Same scenario
@@tctk1 the s5 is still an Audi? What's your point?
@@tctk1 u just keep sounding so butthurt lol
Im a G70 owner and will probably get an Audi for my next vehicle but yeah a Kia is still a Kia unfortunately. I guess Im a sucker for the luxury brands and will never get a Kia personally but no knock on people who buy them they look nice but just not my cup of tea.
Thé différence is Audi is so easy to tune just a down pipe and tune on 93 you get 430 hp and 567tq
This guy didn’t even use launch control in the stinger 🤦🏻♂️
Lmao the stinger wins any race against the s5 stock for stock any day of the week, if you know how to drive
Kia still has crap material that it makes the vehicles out of. Getting better but not close to the Germans yet. Do not believe me. Go sit in a new Kia and a new audi. If that does not help get your nose checked. That simple
What a surprise ! Your reaction says it all ! Kudos to You, the Stinger and everyone that made it happen !
Hats off to the Germans as well...!!!👌👌👌
What world do you live in saying stock stinger is quicker than S5? That stinger is not stock, come on now lol
From Florida thanks for another great video, have a nice weekend
Thank you!
Kia is better than plenty of companies . Audi as well. But id buy Kia Sorento 2022. I am fs buying a stinger. I have 2022 k5 ex, and 2022 audi q3 both 184 hp :,( . But i will eventually go for audi q8 and stinger gt once they make their final gas power vehicles .
Kia stinger is the best 💪
This audi is less than power and performance of audi generation however better than kia .....
You know what else is ridiculous when your kia stinger is making 480 whp and does 0-60 3.6. With a piggy back tune that just hides boost from ecu air intakes exhaust wow!
Wat I'm lost can u explain
@Booby Belly intercooler 3inch charge pipe ,intakes ,high flow primary cat, down pipe no cats mbrp exhaust hks plugs jb4 map 3 on 93 octane with all the wires.
About $3500 in parts cost i did the labor.
@Booby Belly ive never raced a trackhawk but i respect them. I own a gt awd that is below the gt1 it Weigh about 300lbs lighter then the on in this vid that is a gt2. With upgraded turbo fuel sys and meth another 8grand 700+ hp yes. What makes the kia stinger fast is ability to have that 365hp at 1700 rpm to redline. Meny stock dyno runs show factory output to be higher then stock most of the time. The awd stinger put out 2psi of boost more then rwd to make up for drive train power loss.
The audi driver wasn’t using launch control lol also a couple hundred dollar tune on an s5 makes it leaps and bounds better than the Kia.
Are you sure the mods aren’t affecting the performance? I went from running a 12.95 @ 108 mph 1/4 mile to a 12.62 @ 111 mph simply by replacing the stock snorkels on my Stinger with aftermarket ones. That Stinger may not be tuned but it looked faster than stock.
It’s not faster then stock the stinger is quicker then the S5 in every scenario besides the S5 using LC. Look at car and driver tests on awd stinger and S5 it’s quicker in every metric besides 0-60 but pretty much catches up at 1/4 mile. And rolling 5-60 50-70 70-100 stinger is all significantly quicker.
@TH-cam Sucks yea that’s not happening. The S5 was the one with a intake.
@Catholic Firefighter you must not have owned a turbo car before. All my cars are turbo cars and you can easily gain 15-25 hp with just an intake upgrade. It depends on how restrictive the stock intake is. With a less restrictive intake you can gain 1-2 psi of boost which equals more power.
@Catholic Firefighter also if wheels are a different size affects
That’s a scorpion edition stinger … a little bit more in there than a regular stinger
The Scorpion is all cosmetic upgrades
The S5 launch control is superior it wins off the lineusing LC but stinger pulls it back. But in every other aspect rolling or just mashing the throttle the stinger pulls on S5 💯.
@Tim4 you get a chance to test the LC on a 2022 Stinger yet? The built-in boost gauge actually shows it building boost during LC.
I dunno if the gauge showed boost building in the prior model years. You ever checked the gauge on yours during LC?
@@Maljey I don’t have a 2022 model. This car in the test def isn’t a 2022 model. But the whole stinger community knows it doesn’t build boost. It’s been tested. I doubt the 2022 model builds boost. I have a base GT AWD so I don’t have boost gauge. Watch the straight pipes review of the original stinger they show the gauge using LC it does nothing maybe .5 PSI lol Kia/Genesis did this to protect drivetrain can’t have motors blowing up with 10 year warranties.
@@Tsand4 yeah, but apparently there are rumors of the LC being changed on 2022 models. See this thread:
stingerforum (dot) org/threads/question-about-launch-control-2022-awd-gt1.21882/
@@Maljey also in my stinger using regular LC my 0-60 is 4.5-4.6
When I can actually build boost on launch doing the parking brake launch my 0-60 goes down to 4.2-4.3 same as S5.
@@Tsand4 Yeah man I'm subbed to your channel and seen the vids. I just got a 2022 GT1 AWD recently but I'm still letting it break in before I mess with the LC. I don't have a draggy, so I won't be able to get any numbers anyway.
Audi s5 in comfort mode leaves in 2nd gear so that's probably why.
Another great contents Sam! It truly shows you are listening what people wants. Love the stinger
Always :) the bad ones get banned
I don’t understand why you’re suprised , the stinger has more hp more torque and it weighs about the same if not less .. it’s called science and common sense
Stinger is 150 lbs more but not 300 lbs more like shown in video. S5 is 4000 lbs stinger is 4150
That was fun to watch. We know the Germans are fond of underrated power figures on paper. That being said I expected the S5 to pull away and keep it's lead in all the races.
Everyone commenting like the Kia is a lot cheaper or something, it’s not, they are price very similar
Really enjoyed this one. Thanks for putting these two together. I’m not much into racing, I just love cars. But coming from a noob, it was fun watching, as well as seeing your excitement.
lol audi over stinger all day long.. That engine is probably blown up by the end of the video 😂
Great comparison here, really fun watching these races.
How is that fair race when the Audi driver doesn’t know how to lunch properly really
From a reliability standpoint, I’d put my trust in Kia over ANY Audi 😂
I've had 2 Audi's and 2 BMW's. Out of 2 Audi's...both had oil leakage and required a motor reseal & ultimately one had to get motor replaced. One BMW had a torn subframe & electrical problems (the other was newer and I sold within one year so it prob had issues too...lol). So 3 out of 4 had major defective (not even issues...just plain defects).
I'd take a Ford PInto over any European car for reliability. Hahaha
kia hyundai putting a 7yr warranty against their product while BMW and Audi going only 3yrs says a lot. Love my stinger, and I stepped over from an e90!
Isn't 5 years warranty worldwide or is it the 5 years warranty for Audi and some other German's car manufacturers is just in my country 🤔
Great racing.
Starting to hate YT on mobile app. Had to watch minute for minute ads. Atleast I could skip
It's to bad everyone thought that the Audi even had a chance. When Kia brought this car out it was a great kept secret. It's funny how we always think the cars with names like Audi BMW Mercedes are so much better and faster. Nope. All they are is more expensive for the same options but can't compete with the power of the stinger
😂😂clown
@@Model1822 Whats wrong. Did you really think the Audi would win Bozo
Can we get some new n line races come on
Lol this wasn't biased at all 🙄 the S5 with rotary forged wheels, an intake, with a 300lbs lighter curb weight and AWD still got gapped consistently from a dig by a completely stock (under the hood) Stinger, I cannot wait to buy a 2022 GT2 and start upgrading stuff lol, the thing us a beast!
Looks like this guy does whatever it takes to make the kia look good. must be on the payroll.
Stinger not only beat the S5 but was pulling away the longer they went !! Very impressive. I love both of these cars but for the price difference ($12k-$15k in the US), 10 year warranty and now actually faster..... Stinger > S5 !! Thanks again Sam - Great Job.
In vain, Audi its over kia,whatever KIA owners or Audi haters say.
I am really surprised by these results as well. While both cars have similar power numbers on paper, I always hear how Audi/BMW/Merc will underrate their stock HP numbers. Some people say the numbers reported by them are the hp numbers to the wheels?
So I'm very surprised to see the Kia keep up and even surpass the S5.
Look at car and driver tests of AWD stinger and S5 besides the 0-60 and 1/4 mile which stinger pretty much catches up the stinger is quicker in every metric. They do a lot of different types of pulls a lot of rolling runs stinger is quicker in every one. And it passes the S5 in the 0-130mph by over a second.
@@Tsand4 That's why I wonder if Kia underrated the HP numbers on the Stinger as well.
The Stinger is super close to the Challenger RT (5.7) in HP and weight. But it always performs better than Challenger RT in straight line. I'm sure some of it is due to Challenger tires but it's still surprising.
@@Maljey I think it is somewhat underrated but not like how bmw does saying the m340i is 382hp n it’s really pushin 450 lol instead of 365 it might be like 380-390 or somewhere around there.
@Catholic Firefighter Greetings from down under. I would love to see you do a review on the Stinger. It would be great.
@Catholic Firefighter There are some great ones on the net. Yet to see one that is a bad review of this gem.
" as good as the Germans"?? In NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM.
Where the dudes saying the S5 was faster !!?? Lmao
On sport with boost... it was lol
Only time the s5 was ahead was when he jumped. The dude even mentioned it at the end.
I have an s5 and have dusted more stingers then I can count lol, shitty driver