How did that deal go down!? That can't have been a standard agreement, clearly Nissan had something to sell & McLaren were looking for some sort of existing fossil fuel combustion engine platform with known performance and reliability to buy..... Also, isn't the Engine that McLaren uses a significantly smaller package than this? I am talking about the close to 33% smaller overall size, and the McLaren unit has all the Road-Legal Gubbins that this Group C racercar doesn't have.
@@LND3947 They didn't buy it from Nissan, they bought it from TWR who had collaborated with Nissan on the R390 GT1. McLaren and Ricaro then redesigned the engine to pretty much bear no resemblance to the original Nissan V8, other than the shared bore size of 93 mm. Ship of Theseus and all that. Neat connection though.
I've been racing there on Assetto Corsa for the last few nights, it has such a nice flow to it with some good elevation changes too. It's really great.
And to think the one after this is even MIGHTIER Same engine, but Fed with SO MUCH BOOST The Myth goes that R92CP, the car after this, goes 400kph down the Fuji Speedway straight. In the '90s. *Insane*
The corner at the end of the straight would have made that an impossibility. The blind approach and the lack of visual cues for a braking point would have made it hard enough without t5he knowledge that many drivers had died at that point.
@@jareknowak8712 No they weren’t. Race car aerodynamics were nothing like as sophisticated in the late 1960s. A cursory examination of the ACO speed trap records reveals that 350km/h wasn’t exceeded until 1971 and that was with a car making more than 600 hp. The Peugeot’s 416 km/h run wasn’t done on any race track. It was done on a new and unopened section of freeway and measured with police radar. It didn’t happen at Le Mans.
I've heard this myth before. Given how Fuji speedway was back then, where the Massive 300R corner would give the R92CP a good run even before getting onto the main straight. Feeding full boost onto the monstrous twin turbo V8 was claimed to give 1500hp (though the accuracy is disputable). It seems plausible when you look into the stats, but still hard to believe, that a car could accelerate to 400km/h THAT effortlessly (by 1992 standards). Some Japanese guy on TH-cam also tested this on Assetto Corsa & hit 400km/h easily (although the test is likely inaccurate). He also found with longer gear ratios the R92CP would have easily gone faster (given a longer road). If and ONLY if the Japanese asset bubble did not burst + FIA decided not to add the Chicanes down the Hunaudieres straight, Nissan would with near certainty would have convinced them to do so. Having cars going well over 400 km/h on public roads is asking for a tragic death. They may have even decided to add a 3rd one for good measures
Oh that car is awesome. I watched it many times. Thanks for this video. My dog has run away & I'm grinning like a maniac. Oh those days were so much fun (I worked for TWR & F1 Teams for many years)
never encountered a more imposing paddock prep sequence in a Bozzy video, than this one - supreme high tech and what must the engine note of 1,000 BHP! my word
From what I have been able to find (Assuming this is correct), that particular car was chassis R89C-02 (which as it turns out IS also the winning car from the 1992 Rolex 24 at Daytona). So this chassis is indeed the Team Take one car with the correct bodywork and all (It was the only R91CP that had this specific bodywork) but its wearing its Winning Daytona 24 Hour Livery that it previously raced with. Interesting choice by the owner.
Thank you so much for providing phenomenal content over all these years of all these racing cars and motorsport events, truly the best! (Quick personal note, I think I prefer the body work with the wing separate on this R91 rather than with the integrated rear wing into the body work)
Impressionante la potenza di questo prototipo. Giù alla prima staccata faceva paura nonostante il pilota non fosse dei più veloci ad uscire dalle curve in fondo ha fatto registrare le velocità più elevate di tutti e vi posso assicurare che si carpiva chiaramente.
@@lukedraper4100 Their are, especially Road-Legal Cars, but the difference is that the Road-Legal Cars don't weigh so little (most of the road cars are north of 1200KG, whereas this car weighs closer to 1000KG including Liquids & Driver), and, the Road-Legal Cars don't have the kind of insane down force or driver feedback through the wheel as these cars do. Very few modern cars have 1000hp + Manual Gearbox.
Unlikely. This was a Group C car and while the engine was a race engine from the outset, it was designed to run to a fuel economy formula. That means minimising mass, both static and rotational and that gives pretty low margins for over boost.. Max power was about 800 hp. Even Sauber Mercedes didn't go that high, rating about 820 in qualifying boost.
@@jaglemans6778 well that would have been about 200 hp more than anyone else - including Toyota, who were running a similar philosophy - and that simply wasn’t going to happen. Sauber we’re getting about 820 from the M119 in qualifying. Boost is great but it’s not a free lunch.
And that's correct. I also noticed something 'unusual' compared to how the various R90, 91, 92 CPs look at the rear. But this R91 should be the ex-Team Take One car that raced in JSPC in 1992 with a silver Kokuyo livery and it had that unique high-downforce kit (huge rear wing, detached from the bodywork, and those front dive planes) - www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/nissan_r91_cp.html - www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1992/Suzuka-1992-04-19-061.jpg
@@19Bozzy92 Yeah, I was guessing it's that one. I wonder why they ran it with the Calsonic livery though, since there's another R91CP (IIRC, the one that Keiichi Tsuchiya tested alongside an S30Z) which has the exact same livery (including the same racing number).
What is the name/model of that "MG" branded LMP 900 car parked up behind the Nissan? I was never aware of ANY "MG" branded LMP 900 entry, in fact I wasn't aware of any post-1990 "MG" branded Endurance Championship Entry.
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Yet another Lola, I should have guessed it would be a Lola, much like some of the Caterham & Aston Martin Lola cars that were built. Thanks for sharing the link!
It`s an LMP 675 car that ran in the American Le Mans Series in the early 2000:s. The LMP 675 cars only weighed around 675 kgs, but they only had 2 liter turbo charged engines, so they did not have the torque or the drivability of the bigger LMP 900 cars that had engines up to around 6 liters, in naturally aspirated form, and the legendary Audi R8 LMP 900 had a 3.6 liter twin turbo v8. The 675 cars also suffered alot with poor reliability, especially the MG / Lola, and it was usually engine and electric problems that halted their progress, they were pretty fast on some circuits, but not as reliable as the LMP 900 cars.
@@fontheking5 I spent some time reading into the LMP675 class yesterday. It seems like the idea wasn't the problem, the main problem was the assumption that such cars could reasonably compete with the LMP900 class of vehicles, I think it is fair to say that really to have a fighting chance either the LMP900 class cars should have had their maximum engine capacity limited, or, the LMP675 class should have just been operated as a separate class that was NEVER expected compete with the much more reliable engines in the LMP900 class. The fact that LMP675 became LMP2 isn't a surprise at all. What does surprise me however is just how lax the engine limitations are for LMP2, 5.0L engines being an option is utterly insane these days while they still run on conventional performance fossil fuels. LMP2 should be limited to 3.0L NA Engines, or, 2.0L TT Engines if the engine has turbos, peak 570hp total LMH/LMHd should be limited to 4.0L NA/2.6L TT engine capacity, peak 1000hp total LMP3 should be the class where you can have 2.5L NA/1.6L TT, peak 425hp total Then the GTE Class or whatever it is called would be limited to existing specs but at peak 500hp total, so they would be competing with the LMP3 back markers. That gives four classes of cars, two purely race car classes, and one class of purely Road-Legal derived rave cars, and one class that's a mix of Road-Legal/Race cars. The target overall should be to improve reliability in the engines, so, if each race teams are easily getting through the whole race without any engine parts needed then you need to lower the maximum engine capacity for the class by 0.3L each year until they start failing frequently, and then wait for reliability to catch up again. The intention behind these Motorsport cars should be to push the progress of all vehicles forward, and the only way we can do that is by challenging ourselves more. Limit spending budgets on the cars mechanicals, limit engine capacity, limit peak total power but only for certain classes. Force the use of Hybrid Combustion-Electric Powertrains. Push the pinnacle of Motorsport forward!
I have to say I'm not a fan of them swapping-on LED lights. Blah-blah they're more powerful and energy efficient, but they just look wrong and you can't unsee it... I'm also concerned that Nissan's started selling some of its crown jewels out of the Zama Heritage Collection (this and the GT1 World Championship-winning factory GT-R V8s are known about... but what isn't?)
What's the problem with LED's they been using them long before those lights became common on modern production cars if not mistaken. They also race at night or in low light conditions.
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Fun Fact: the engine in this car (Nissan VRH35Z) is a direct ancestor to the engines in pretty much every V8 supercar McLaren has ever produced.
Sounded much better in this configuration, thats for sure
But they make more power from the v6 tt nissan r35 plus 😂
@@kaporezim en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McLaren_M838T_engine
How did that deal go down!?
That can't have been a standard agreement, clearly Nissan had something to sell & McLaren were looking for some sort of existing fossil fuel combustion engine platform with known performance and reliability to buy.....
Also, isn't the Engine that McLaren uses a significantly smaller package than this?
I am talking about the close to 33% smaller overall size, and the McLaren unit has all the Road-Legal Gubbins that this Group C racercar doesn't have.
@@LND3947 They didn't buy it from Nissan, they bought it from TWR who had collaborated with Nissan on the R390 GT1. McLaren and Ricaro then redesigned the engine to pretty much bear no resemblance to the original Nissan V8, other than the shared bore size of 93 mm. Ship of Theseus and all that. Neat connection though.
As chief engine engineer of this vehicle, I am truly proud that this beautiful machine is so admired to this day.
Mugello is such a majestic course
I've been racing there on Assetto Corsa for the last few nights, it has such a nice flow to it with some good elevation changes too. It's really great.
It always reminds me Spa Francorchamps a bit.
@@jareknowak8712i would say better than spa, at least for hotlap
I’ve seen one of these up close at COTA. The owner bought it because of its complexity, he was an engineer.
You know they're a cool ass engineer if they bought it because it's complex.
I would do the same thing😂
Haven't seen a lap of this car in ages. Never disappoints
And to think the one after this is even MIGHTIER
Same engine, but Fed with SO MUCH BOOST
The Myth goes that R92CP, the car after this, goes 400kph down the Fuji Speedway straight. In the '90s.
*Insane*
The corner at the end of the straight would have made that an impossibility. The blind approach and the lack of visual cues for a braking point would have made it hard enough without t5he knowledge that many drivers had died at that point.
Race cars in the late 60s were able to do 350kmh with 350hp.
Peugeot WM P87 did 416kmh in 1987.
@@jareknowak8712 No they weren’t. Race car aerodynamics were nothing like as sophisticated in the late 1960s. A cursory examination of the ACO speed trap records reveals that 350km/h wasn’t exceeded until 1971 and that was with a car making more than 600 hp.
The Peugeot’s 416 km/h run wasn’t done on any race track. It was done on a new and unopened section of freeway and measured with police radar. It didn’t happen at Le Mans.
I've heard this myth before. Given how Fuji speedway was back then, where the Massive 300R corner would give the R92CP a good run even before getting onto the main straight. Feeding full boost onto the monstrous twin turbo V8 was claimed to give 1500hp (though the accuracy is disputable). It seems plausible when you look into the stats, but still hard to believe, that a car could accelerate to 400km/h THAT effortlessly (by 1992 standards).
Some Japanese guy on TH-cam also tested this on Assetto Corsa & hit 400km/h easily (although the test is likely inaccurate). He also found with longer gear ratios the R92CP would have easily gone faster (given a longer road).
If and ONLY if the Japanese asset bubble did not burst + FIA decided not to add the Chicanes down the Hunaudieres straight, Nissan would with near certainty would have convinced them to do so. Having cars going well over 400 km/h on public roads is asking for a tragic death. They may have even decided to add a 3rd one for good measures
Thank you very much for the video. What a fantastic beast, such an iconic car. It's really a delight to see and hear it on track!🤓
No problem at all! ;)
Oh that car is awesome. I watched it many times. Thanks for this video. My dog has run away & I'm grinning like a maniac. Oh those days were so much fun (I worked for TWR & F1 Teams for many years)
never encountered a more imposing paddock prep sequence in a Bozzy video, than this one - supreme high tech and what must the engine note of 1,000 BHP! my word
That's a beautiful Nissan right there.
What a timeless beauty. Thanks
The R92 CP is my Favorite Car in Gran Turismo 7. 900 kg 700 HP and amazing Aerodynamics
From what I have been able to find (Assuming this is correct), that particular car was chassis R89C-02 (which as it turns out IS also the winning car from the 1992 Rolex 24 at Daytona). So this chassis is indeed the Team Take one car with the correct bodywork and all (It was the only R91CP that had this specific bodywork) but its wearing its Winning Daytona 24 Hour Livery that it previously raced with. Interesting choice by the owner.
This needs to be on tour traveling the tracks of the world! It needs more track time😎
Those 1980s waistgates look like they came of a piece of farming equipment. Big
In the 1970s they came from trucks.
Legendary car from GT5!!
Gran turismo 4 vibes!
I love this so much
Thank you so much for providing phenomenal content over all these years of all these racing cars and motorsport events, truly the best!
(Quick personal note, I think I prefer the body work with the wing separate on this R91 rather than with the integrated rear wing into the body work)
No worries, dude! Thanks for your support
What a beauty.
Yes, Although my favorite was Nissan 83. Have seen it run in historic runs, Road Atlanta.
Incredible machine, excellent camera work and editing. I was behind a new Nissan Pathfinder the other night, but can't compete with this.😅
Thanks for your comment!
Impressionante la potenza di questo prototipo. Giù alla prima staccata faceva paura nonostante il pilota non fosse dei più veloci ad uscire dalle curve in fondo ha fatto registrare le velocità più elevate di tutti e vi posso assicurare che si carpiva chiaramente.
6:49. Love it!!
I remember hearing there was a manual boost controller. The driver could crank up the output to 1000hp for qualifying.
Scarey theres a dozen cars now have over that from standard
@@lukedraper4100 Their are, especially Road-Legal Cars, but the difference is that the Road-Legal Cars don't weigh so little (most of the road cars are north of 1200KG, whereas this car weighs closer to 1000KG including Liquids & Driver), and, the Road-Legal Cars don't have the kind of insane down force or driver feedback through the wheel as these cars do.
Very few modern cars have 1000hp + Manual Gearbox.
Unlikely. This was a Group C car and while the engine was a race engine from the outset, it was designed to run to a fuel economy formula. That means minimising mass, both static and rotational and that gives pretty low margins for over boost.. Max power was about 800 hp. Even Sauber Mercedes didn't go that high, rating about 820 in qualifying boost.
@@thethirdman225 The Nissan could run over 1000bhp in qualifying spec. They didn't have a dyno or telemetry to calculate it accurately.
@@jaglemans6778 well that would have been about 200 hp more than anyone else - including Toyota, who were running a similar philosophy - and that simply wasn’t going to happen. Sauber we’re getting about 820 from the M119 in qualifying. Boost is great but it’s not a free lunch.
Some of your best work Bozzy.
Glad you liked it!
i❤ nissan R91cp
Wow , what a beauty. Looks and sounds awesome❤🎉😁! Thank you for uploading this... Did they change the headlights to LED ? Or is it original?
No problem at all! Yes, I believe they changed them to LED during the recent restoration
This is the same chassis that ran with Kokuyo livery (that silver one) by Team Take One at JSPC in 1992!
Thanks for confirming that!
Need this in GT7 badly!
Kinda not? This specific car might not be in GT7, but its successor, the R92CP, is the star of a license test in that game IIRC.
Just detune the power/torque of the one in GT7 and its close enough
Take the R92CP. One of my favourites.
NISSAN R91CP Cool🙂👍
Que carro incrível!!!
Excellent video!! Always Bozzy 🏁🇮🇹🏁!!
Thank you so much!
beautiful!!!!!!
superbe cette auto...merci Bozzy 👏👏👏👏
insane how close ams2 sounds to real life
What a beast 🔥🔥🔥
Che spettacolo le gruppo C
Edit:But cant beat that mighty Jaguar V12.
That engine is pure art!
Che mezzi che facevano in quegli anni , sarebbe interessante sapere di chi sia questo modello , e cosa deve fare per mantenerlo in condizioni 👍🏼
Never knew Nissan made this, always learn something new everyday
sound of gearbox 🤤
What was it's best lap time at Mugello
Wait, I thought the R91CP and R92CP have the exact same rear end (the one similar to the Porsche 956/962LH and KH) instead of a huge rear wing?
And that's correct. I also noticed something 'unusual' compared to how the various R90, 91, 92 CPs look at the rear. But this R91 should be the ex-Team Take One car that raced in JSPC in 1992 with a silver Kokuyo livery and it had that unique high-downforce kit (huge rear wing, detached from the bodywork, and those front dive planes)
- www.nissan-global.com/EN/HERITAGE/nissan_r91_cp.html
- www.racingsportscars.com/photo/1992/Suzuka-1992-04-19-061.jpg
@@19Bozzy92 Yeah, I was guessing it's that one. I wonder why they ran it with the Calsonic livery though, since there's another R91CP (IIRC, the one that Keiichi Tsuchiya tested alongside an S30Z) which has the exact same livery (including the same racing number).
I was so mesmerized by the sound, I didn’t notice the rear end.
Epic
What is the name/model of that "MG" branded LMP 900 car parked up behind the Nissan?
I was never aware of ANY "MG" branded LMP 900 entry, in fact I wasn't aware of any post-1990 "MG" branded Endurance Championship Entry.
MG-Lola EX257. More a Lola than an MG, and pretty successful in its own right.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG-Lola_EX257
@@mitchell-wallisforce7859 Yet another Lola, I should have guessed it would be a Lola, much like some of the Caterham & Aston Martin Lola cars that were built.
Thanks for sharing the link!
It`s an LMP 675 car that ran in the American Le Mans Series in the early 2000:s.
The LMP 675 cars only weighed around 675 kgs, but they only had 2 liter turbo charged engines, so they did not have the torque or the drivability of the bigger LMP 900 cars that had engines up to around 6 liters, in naturally aspirated form, and the legendary Audi R8 LMP 900 had a 3.6 liter twin turbo v8.
The 675 cars also suffered alot with poor reliability, especially the MG / Lola, and it was usually engine and electric problems that halted their progress, they were pretty fast on some circuits, but not as reliable as the LMP 900 cars.
@@fontheking5 I spent some time reading into the LMP675 class yesterday.
It seems like the idea wasn't the problem, the main problem was the assumption that such cars could reasonably compete with the LMP900 class of vehicles, I think it is fair to say that really to have a fighting chance either the LMP900 class cars should have had their maximum engine capacity limited, or, the LMP675 class should have just been operated as a separate class that was NEVER expected compete with the much more reliable engines in the LMP900 class.
The fact that LMP675 became LMP2 isn't a surprise at all.
What does surprise me however is just how lax the engine limitations are for LMP2, 5.0L engines being an option is utterly insane these days while they still run on conventional performance fossil fuels.
LMP2 should be limited to 3.0L NA Engines, or, 2.0L TT Engines if the engine has turbos, peak 570hp total
LMH/LMHd should be limited to 4.0L NA/2.6L TT engine capacity, peak 1000hp total
LMP3 should be the class where you can have 2.5L NA/1.6L TT, peak 425hp total
Then the GTE Class or whatever it is called would be limited to existing specs but at peak 500hp total, so they would be competing with the LMP3 back markers.
That gives four classes of cars, two purely race car classes, and one class of purely Road-Legal derived rave cars, and one class that's a mix of Road-Legal/Race cars.
The target overall should be to improve reliability in the engines, so, if each race teams are easily getting through the whole race without any engine parts needed then you need to lower the maximum engine capacity for the class by 0.3L each year until they start failing frequently, and then wait for reliability to catch up again.
The intention behind these Motorsport cars should be to push the progress of all vehicles forward, and the only way we can do that is by challenging ourselves more.
Limit spending budgets on the cars mechanicals, limit engine capacity, limit peak total power but only for certain classes.
Force the use of Hybrid Combustion-Electric Powertrains.
Push the pinnacle of Motorsport forward!
I have to say I'm not a fan of them swapping-on LED lights. Blah-blah they're more powerful and energy efficient, but they just look wrong and you can't unsee it...
I'm also concerned that Nissan's started selling some of its crown jewels out of the Zama Heritage Collection (this and the GT1 World Championship-winning factory GT-R V8s are known about... but what isn't?)
Ikr. The digi-dash too. It wouldn't be so bad if it were one of the far more common Porsches of the era, there's plenty still around.
Wait, they really starts selling their heritage collections for real?
💙
Omg!!!
Why those LED lights on this car...for fuck sake...
What's the problem with LED's they been using them long before those lights became common on modern production cars if not mistaken. They also race at night or in low light conditions.
American versionn, the japanese have led ligth on the low base.
Assetto corsa sound modders, pls make this engine sound ❤❤❤
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It doesn't sound or look so fast on the track, but I'm sure it is
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Modern digi-dash???
Project cars 3 anyone?
Feel like that's the R89C you're thinking of (That or the GTP ZX-Turbo)
@@RACECAR yes!
Next jgtc cars 😅.
Bring back group C!! F1 is boring.
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Those led 😕🤢
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Figata zio bozzy è come quella di granturismo 😍👍🏻😎
懐かしい、いい音
Is that a faired-in rear view mirror above the left front wheel?
Is the pink one the Jaguar? 🤔
yep, purple-pink one on its left in the garage is a Jaguar XJR-14
@@19Bozzy92 I think he is referring to Spice SE90C - Ford Cosworth