I always interpreted Frank saying "Come to Daddy" to Kirsty and her immediately recognizing that it was him as some kind of implication that Frank did some questionable things to Kirsty when she was a young girl. But since nothing else about him seems to show an attraction to young girls I would never say that it was intentional.
this is a theory that actually holds a lot of legitimacy. In the novella Frank seeks out the box because he's experienced every possible physical hedonistic pleasure he could, so that could include.......that
That's an interesting point of view and completely plausible. I just took it as him being a creepy asshole in the moment. But it's possible. He was a perverted POS to say the least so I wouldn't be surprised.
In the book Kristy is an adult friend of the family, and not any other character's daughter, so since the line was the same in the book, it's possibly more likely that he's just a skeeze and not a pedophile.
As someone who's never even seen these movies before (and being lazy while still wanting to investigate), Pinhead is recognizable even to me. Really says something about the iconic nature of it.
The old man selling the puzzle box in the opening sounds a whole lot like the old man who sold Homer the cursed Krusty doll in one of the Halloween 'Treehouse of Horror' Simpsons episodes.
"today were tackling the killer office chair movies" gasp "just kidding it's hellraiser" damnit man. when are the killer office chair movies going to get their due?
I have an 18" Pinhead statue, which utters all the classic lines from the movie. And it wasn't cheap. Today, it sells for around $400. Dedication to Horror Classics!
Im glad you enjoy the videos thanks so much for watching I really appreciate it and get well soon I just hope you being sick isn't the only reason you're watching my stuff heh.
I like the dream with the bloody sheet, the feathers and and child crying just because it's a horrid trio of impressions, even if the corpse is very rubbery. It doesn't have to make sense. It's like that nasty whistling noise the flower-TV makes in the hospital room just before the bell tolls and the Cenobites arrive: it's arty and pointless but it's also surprisingly unpleasant and effective in the very general sense of making you feel like something is going fundamentally very wrong with the normal fabric of the world.
I always assumed the Bell noise was the soundtrack, i never considered that the characters in film could hear the bells. Bells ironically make sense, the cenobites are basically other dimensional clergy & their god's sound track includes Gongs playing morse code.
oh could the dream be a reference to her being abused by Frank as a kid. & how her dad wasn't there to save her. wrecked bed, crying child noises, blood. also brings in the flower opening imagery after Frank returns (as he took away her childhood in that regard) also when she uses the box first time, she seems innocently joyful as it plays it melody, and it opens up. but then it revealed to be path to worse things (boxes sometimes metaphors for female sex organs after all) also note the engineer that chases her down the tunnel opened by the box, is very phallic with a painful looking stinger.... if she was abused as a child, yeah giant painful monster inside the box... well join the dots.
I think I figured out why pinhead became the main bad guy in future films. His design is simplistic yet disturbing in some way. It also represents the feeling of pain and pleasure with the pins in his head in the leather referencing BDSM. Also you could hear pinhead more clearly than the other centabytes. Think about it the chatterer cinebike doesn't talk just bites at practically nothing (hence the name) the female can talk but her voice is so distorted that you can barely understand what she's saying and believe me I've watched the film and the chubby cinebike with the sunglasses (sorry don't know all their names off hand plus it's been a while since I seen the full movie) doesn't talk either. Finally we have the cinebike creature in the hallway that seems more like a pet or something like that. I should also mention Doug Bradley's performance is phenomenal and plus the way he says his lines with such conviction and passion. To think Doug Bradley was going to originally play an extra in the movie as one of the movers really shocks me.
I have to assume Julia had a conversation with Frank off screen before she brought her first victim home, where he explains it has to be human. Otherwise why is Juilia so reticent when she already jumped to murder, rather than say, acquiring animal blood or catching animals.... there lots of rats and bugs around.
I'm one of those people who likes to analyse movies to death so I have a ball with the symbolism in these movies and genuinely do see the first one as an art piece. The creator might think differently but that's the thing about art. It's subjective. It's supposed to be. Supposed to get people thinking. Supposed to get people wondering if it's actually worthy of thinking. I dunno. Maybe it's just bollocks, but I think it's ok for movies to act profound as long as they earn the profundity...and this one does for me/
I came across your channel a good while ago and recently came back to it I have got to hand it to you I honestly believe you are one of the best movie reviewers I have seen in a long time keep up the good work
The lightning affect that is hand drawn has always had a so bad it's good kind of quality for me. Giving it a more otherworldly eldritch energy quality over simple electricity.
yeah. nice point. And we never see anything Leviathan based (outside of the light effects when puzzle box used) that is electrical based. cenobites are made using chemicals & leviathan can open your mind with essentially beams of darkness.
Seriously, love that band as your intro !!!!, Currently benge watching your channel and I love it ! Focus on the cartoon thumbnail, the intro, and your format for information is spot on. :)
I don't know why you gave up that intro bruh but for awhile a couple years ago I was a little obsessed with that song and your vids, both of you are super underrated, and as an aside half the comments on DIE! SHE SAID's video is from your fans, that's fucking awesome! \m/ EDIT: I'm watching this again for nostalgia, these were simpler times.
Thank you so much for this review. I finally saw this one for my 30th bday last year and I second what you said I love this movie! Morally neutral antagonist ( I guess) are very rare in movie. They looked so creepy and yet there ethics made perfect sense. Although I wouldn't open the box, unless I was really drunk.
I really wish somebody could make a good film about the cenobites, I feel like this is the only one that actually does them similar to in he novella which is the most interesting interpretation of them, it would be great to actually get to know them more as characters, perhaps doing their normal pain/pleasure where they live. The more they just become "demons who torture people" the more boring they become.
I love this review! You do such a great job. They are always funny and interesting. It got me to sit down and watch the first two movies for the first time and I love them. 😊
With how far you've come as a channel, I feel like you should cover this film again, and it's direct sequel. I'm interested to see your fresh take on it
I remember watching Hellraiser during AMC's Halloween horror marathons they had way before TWD was ever aired. It kinda shocked me because they never censored "f*ck" from the scene when the guy says "you're not changing your f*cking mind" and the movie was playing during the daylight. Oopsy lol
I watched all nine hellraiser reviews. I watched all of them. I started at hellraiser 3 and kept going.... I watched the reviews of hellraiser 3 to 9 all in one evening... So when I watched the hellraiser 9 review I had been on a journey of just seeing the francise completely trashed. The reason I was watching these reviews in the first place - yeh, I was having a debate with someone about politics and philosophy, someone who wanted to try and tell me what pain was, someone who clearly had no idea and hellraiser came to mind. After hellraiser 9 I went back to hellraiser 2 and 1. I've only seen 1 to 3 of the actual films... I am living the rest of the franchise like all of us... Good reviews. I managed to avoid saying your reviews tore my soul apart.
“Walked up a flight of stairs, Who would do that?!?”I once nailed my hand with a nail gun and drove 50 minutes to my wife’s job covered in blood and boogies just to show her what I did.
The score was beautiful- it reminded me of Mary poppins when frank comes out of the floor boards.😂👍I love the movie too and your show. Good work, thanks again.
Having read the novela I really want to know more about The Engineer who's the real leader in the story. Even though I enjoyed The Scarlet Gospels I wish Barker would write a story just about The Engineer.
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When he turned on the kitchen light and found the rotting food I dropped my phone in disgust lol
"Demon to some, Angel to others" never made sense outside of the short story. Pinhead and the Cenobites are pretty much demons, then eventually evolve into slasher killers as the series gradually began to stink, to everybody they encounter. The films, for me, utterly fail to characterise them as these "grey" beings.
Blisterdude123 I always assumed the "angels to others" line was more directed at the people who either worshipped them, enjoyed the pain and torture or loved sending others to their hellish domain for greed or other selfish reasons. Not necessarily that they're grey rather they've delt with some messed up people ☺️
in actuality this is wrong its based off another story as they aren't from this universe and pinhead is female the demon thing is purely the movies talking out their ass and is for bullshit as they are not meant to be just evil
I like your review, this is still and always will be my favorite horror film, novella and sound track. It does work in almost every aspect even now, the weirdness is what makes it work. What gets me is the Zodiac gets it in Hellraiser. "Freaks"-1932 Tod Browning is my second "Phantasm" my third. "The Possession of Hannah Grace" took parts of "Hellraiser" it doesn't work for me.Christopher Young composed the scores to "Hellraiser", "Sinister" and "Drag Me To Hell".
I'm stupid but if Frank opened the box to experience pain, pleasure and sensations beyond our comprehension and then get's pulled into their realm, why would he want to escape? It's not torture in that sense and even in the end he seemed to get off on it. Did he just get bored?
Thats true it's not really specified his reasonings but i think its because he couldn't come (pun not intended) and go as he pleases, cause he enjoys what the cenobites offer, but its still a prison basically, that my wha ti figured anyway.
Do they ever go into detail about how someone escapes the Cenobites? It seemed pretty easy for Frank, as all he needed was someone to bleed on where he was killed and he's just crawls out.
I would if there was any establishing lore on how it did it but there completely zero for a specific reason were no supposed to know and I imaging consider he still existed somewhere in the cenobite dimension the feat required some amount of actual running and escaping how would he have gotten the box otherwise
Interested in if your opinion on movies that they are to be enjoyed not studied and analyze has changed since you're actively pursuing a forensics degree. Good for you man btw!! Really glad you've come back. Rewatching some of the golden oldies after that new hellraiser review of yours from yesterday.
I still think it would have been better sticking closer to the book and having the Cenobites not renege on their deal at the end. It would have kept more with the idea of Frank being the real baddy, and kept the Cenobites as an interesting "angel to some daemon to others", that follows their religious rules, and like in the book leave her as they know she'll call them again on her own one day.
Obviously the flowers are a reference to Voltaire's classic work candide, where our hero rejects the enlightenment and learns that the flower garden is a metonymy for mans defiance of...aw fuck it. It's a fucking flower. Nothing more
I was a teen when these came out and I never saw them at the time. I always felt that these were the high honor horror, then I saw this about 2 years ago and made it thru maybe 10 minutes before turning it off. I was so mad because this movie was so bad that I assumed it was like the 5th or 6th one, and they ran out of story. The guys in my school spoke all the time about these movies!
I forgot about the music in the gooey floor emerging scene so for a moment I thought you were messing about. The same music cue is used on Old Harry's Game, the Andy Hamilton radio comedy about Satan.
This could be me reaching but I think Julia's devotion to Frank could be explained away through BDSM after all BDSM is a aspect to the hellraiser lore so maybe the idea is that Julia is a massive submissive and loves the idea of a really dominant controlling man. I mean as you said it is to a bit of an extreme however I have seen just how far some BDSM relationships can go I mean just look at masochist characters.
@@deusdeaconReviews Yeah I absolutely agree That's why I said this could just be me reaching for a possible explanation of her almost insane devotion to Frank just me rattling my brain for a possible explanation and I do have friends that are a part of the BDSM community and they do explain quite clearly that abuse is not accepted or tolerated within those relationships I don't know I thought I would at least try and provide a possible explanation.
As someone who’s active in the BDSM lifestyle, her devotion and attraction to the brother makes sense. Now I’m not saying she’s not messed up or that it’s a healthy relationship, but it’s a bit of the foundation to her attraction to him. Dom in the streets, sub in the sheets. She’s a very strong willed woman who needs an even stronger willed man in her life. Her contempt for her husband is reflected by this, because in her eyes he’s a fucking pussy. She wants a man that will continue working or come and frell her hard WHILE he’s still bleeding, not a puppy who comes wining to her instead of expelling the same energy to take care of it himself.
22:29 Did... Kirsty really think that her father turned Frank into a molten skeleton? Also, would it have killed Pinhead to tell her what was going on? This is less sadomasochistic angel-demon from beyond our realm, and more douchebag!
BrianMovies Maker I'm not sure why the time Warner thing that's very strange it sounds more like an issue with your connection rather then the link but i will be uploading everything within the next few weeks anyway if that helps.
its a Frankenstein joe tour dates poster, frankenstein joe is a made up band, made by the youtuber jesse cox, i got the poster when i bought some of his merch.
Dude I just noticed the drawing on the wall when Frank buys the box looks like the creature that come and take the box at the end. Not looking to deep just think it's funny I noticed it in the review rather then the movie
6:18 uh it may very well surprise you but but knife and cnc kinks exist. It's just a bit weird but that does seem to be the kind of thing they are into.
Im well aware of BDSM culture and kink culture, I would question if you really know about them, If you think they are the same as the toxic mess that frank and Julia have got going on.
I know I'm SUPER late to the party. But after the 50th time seeing this review, I was thinking about Frank's last words. "Jesus wept" I wonder if he was actually making fun of Jesus' reaction to the pain (sensation). Like, he was enjoying it and thought it was funny that Jesus couldn't handle it. I dunno. Just a thought.
thats not a bad idea really, makes a lot of sense with franks masochism and the fact he enjoys sacrilegious imagery like the statue they found in the house at the start.
The reason the "wearing Larry's skin" thing worked in the book because frank and Rory, Larry's book counterpart, were twins
To be fair, my father goes running to my mother to show her every injury he gets, usually while laughing at the whole situation.
This is true, I do this to my partner as well and fish for extra sympathy.
Been watching your Hellraiser film reviews in reverse order, that way they get better the further I go on 😀🖒
I always interpreted Frank saying "Come to Daddy" to Kirsty and her immediately recognizing that it was him as some kind of implication that Frank did some questionable things to Kirsty when she was a young girl. But since nothing else about him seems to show an attraction to young girls I would never say that it was intentional.
Well, when she first sees him skinless he says "Hey, it's me, uncle Frank. Come to daddy" so of course she realises the truth when "Larry" says it
this is a theory that actually holds a lot of legitimacy. In the novella Frank seeks out the box because he's experienced every possible physical hedonistic pleasure he could, so that could include.......that
That's an interesting point of view and completely plausible. I just took it as him being a creepy asshole in the moment. But it's possible. He was a perverted POS to say the least so I wouldn't be surprised.
In the book Kristy is an adult friend of the family, and not any other character's daughter, so since the line was the same in the book, it's possibly more likely that he's just a skeeze and not a pedophile.
The box was always yours. The money, on the other hand, was always mine.
As someone who's never even seen these movies before (and being lazy while still wanting to investigate), Pinhead is recognizable even to me. Really says something about the iconic nature of it.
The old man selling the puzzle box in the opening sounds a whole lot like the old man who sold Homer the cursed Krusty doll in one of the Halloween 'Treehouse of Horror' Simpsons episodes.
Maybe it was a double reference? The scene for Gremlins, and the voice for Hellraiser?
Yeah, they deleted the scene where the old man tells Frank that the box comes with a free Frogurt.
@@diecastinsanity483 that's bad
That's good
@@jeffmartin9753 The frogurt is also cursed
"today were tackling the killer office chair movies"
gasp
"just kidding it's hellraiser"
damnit man. when are the killer office chair movies going to get their due?
I have an 18" Pinhead statue, which utters all the classic lines from the movie. And it wasn't cheap.
Today, it sells for around $400.
Dedication to Horror Classics!
Been a horror fan since I was 5-6 (I'm 30 now). Love seeing people with the same passion and feeling the nostalgia. Subscribed. Oh, and Dark Souls
Me too!👍cenobites oh my!
I'm not the only one! Lol. My first horror memory was The Thing...I was four, so, yeah, I typically get side-eyed when I say that.
Pinhead: "This isn't for your eyes"
*a few moments later*
Pinhead: "We have such sights to show you."
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"No one make a joke about Jesus coming out of the closet."
I lost it there. XD
Been sick at home and have been on a Marathon with this guy. Absolutely love his shows. Especially the horror movie reviews
Im glad you enjoy the videos thanks so much for watching I really appreciate it and get well soon I just hope you being sick isn't the only reason you're watching my stuff heh.
@@deusdeaconReviewswe need more content ..your amazing
I like the dream with the bloody sheet, the feathers and and child crying just because it's a horrid trio of impressions, even if the corpse is very rubbery. It doesn't have to make sense. It's like that nasty whistling noise the flower-TV makes in the hospital room just before the bell tolls and the Cenobites arrive: it's arty and pointless but it's also surprisingly unpleasant and effective in the very general sense of making you feel like something is going fundamentally very wrong with the normal fabric of the world.
I always assumed the Bell noise was the soundtrack, i never considered that the characters in film could hear the bells. Bells ironically make sense, the cenobites are basically other dimensional clergy & their god's sound track includes Gongs playing morse code.
oh could the dream be a reference to her being abused by Frank as a kid. & how her dad wasn't there to save her. wrecked bed, crying child noises, blood. also brings in the flower opening imagery after Frank returns (as he took away her childhood in that regard) also when she uses the box first time, she seems innocently joyful as it plays it melody, and it opens up. but then it revealed to be path to worse things (boxes sometimes metaphors for female sex organs after all) also note the engineer that chases her down the tunnel opened by the box, is very phallic with a painful looking stinger.... if she was abused as a child, yeah giant painful monster inside the box... well join the dots.
I think I figured out why pinhead became the main bad guy in future films. His design is simplistic yet disturbing in some way. It also represents the feeling of pain and pleasure with the pins in his head in the leather referencing BDSM. Also you could hear pinhead more clearly than the other centabytes. Think about it the chatterer cinebike doesn't talk just bites at practically nothing (hence the name) the female can talk but her voice is so distorted that you can barely understand what she's saying and believe me I've watched the film and the chubby cinebike with the sunglasses (sorry don't know all their names off hand plus it's been a while since I seen the full movie) doesn't talk either. Finally we have the cinebike creature in the hallway that seems more like a pet or something like that. I should also mention Doug Bradley's performance is phenomenal and plus the way he says his lines with such conviction and passion. To think Doug Bradley was going to originally play an extra in the movie as one of the movers really shocks me.
I have to assume Julia had a conversation with Frank off screen before she brought her first victim home, where he explains it has to be human. Otherwise why is Juilia so reticent when she already jumped to murder, rather than say, acquiring animal blood or catching animals.... there lots of rats and bugs around.
I like how in depth your reviews are and the humour you put in. I love Hellraiser, still creeps me out now.
Your reviews are the tits. Loving the Hellraiser ones. Keep 'em coming, fella.
Indeed- TITS.
"What the hell's that?" My elderly mother every time her smart phone rings even though she had heard it ring 7,000 times.
That music during the Frank's sort of reconstitution scene...all I can hear in my mind is the intro to Old Harry's Game; great music.
I'm one of those people who likes to analyse movies to death so I have a ball with the symbolism in these movies and genuinely do see the first one as an art piece. The creator might think differently but that's the thing about art. It's subjective. It's supposed to be. Supposed to get people thinking. Supposed to get people wondering if it's actually worthy of thinking.
I dunno. Maybe it's just bollocks, but I think it's ok for movies to act profound as long as they earn the profundity...and this one does for me/
you know what I thought of
what if someone would take the Hellraiser Comics and make them into a Animated series (R rated of course)
That would be a great idea, & a great way to extend the Tortured Souls series as well.
You know MOST slasher movies have women fighting back.. The screaming running chick is a cliche that's Raley used, even in the 80s
"U Want A Cookie Little Girl(Freddy Krueger voice)". Best of the movie lol
I came across your channel a good while ago and recently came back to it I have got to hand it to you I honestly believe you are one of the best movie reviewers I have seen in a long time keep up the good work
thank you very much I really appreciate your support and of course coming back to the channel
@@deusdeaconReviewsI agree. The editing, commentary, humor is perfect and hilarious
anyone notice the winged beast scribbled on the wall at the end suggesting that the seller is the winged beast doing the boxes bidding
The lightning affect that is hand drawn has always had a so bad it's good kind of quality for me. Giving it a more otherworldly eldritch energy quality over simple electricity.
yeah. nice point. And we never see anything Leviathan based (outside of the light effects when puzzle box used) that is electrical based. cenobites are made using chemicals & leviathan can open your mind with essentially beams of darkness.
Seriously, love that band as your intro !!!!, Currently benge watching your channel and I love it ! Focus on the cartoon thumbnail, the intro, and your format for information is spot on. :)
no joke i went your channel looking for this playlist and it was on the top like "oh here you go we were expecting you"
Despite Pinhead being a horror icon he's never the antagonist as he only pops up whenever the box is open.
thats not strictly true, he's definitely the antagonist in hellraiser 3 and 4
I don't know why you gave up that intro bruh but for awhile a couple years ago I was a little obsessed with that song and your vids, both of you are super underrated, and as an aside half the comments on DIE! SHE SAID's video is from your fans, that's fucking awesome! \m/
EDIT: I'm watching this again for nostalgia, these were simpler times.
Thank you so much for this review. I finally saw this one for my 30th bday last year and I second what you said I love this movie! Morally neutral antagonist ( I guess) are very rare in movie. They looked so creepy and yet there ethics made perfect sense. Although I wouldn't open the box, unless I was really drunk.
I really wish somebody could make a good film about the cenobites, I feel like this is the only one that actually does them similar to in he novella which is the most interesting interpretation of them, it would be great to actually get to know them more as characters, perhaps doing their normal pain/pleasure where they live. The more they just become "demons who torture people" the more boring they become.
If I remember correctly, in the book Kristi brains frank with the box before throwing it through the window.
I love this review! You do such a great job. They are always funny and interesting. It got me to sit down and watch the first two movies for the first time and I love them. 😊
With how far you've come as a channel, I feel like you should cover this film again, and it's direct sequel. I'm interested to see your fresh take on it
I remember watching Hellraiser during AMC's Halloween horror marathons they had way before TWD was ever aired. It kinda shocked me because they never censored "f*ck" from the scene when the guy says "you're not changing your f*cking mind" and the movie was playing during the daylight. Oopsy lol
I watched all nine hellraiser reviews. I watched all of them. I started at hellraiser 3 and kept going.... I watched the reviews of hellraiser 3 to 9 all in one evening... So when I watched the hellraiser 9 review I had been on a journey of just seeing the francise completely trashed. The reason I was watching these reviews in the first place - yeh, I was having a debate with someone about politics and philosophy, someone who wanted to try and tell me what pain was, someone who clearly had no idea and hellraiser came to mind. After hellraiser 9 I went back to hellraiser 2 and 1. I've only seen 1 to 3 of the actual films... I am living the rest of the franchise like all of us... Good reviews. I managed to avoid saying your reviews tore my soul apart.
“Walked up a flight of stairs, Who would do that?!?”I once nailed my hand with a nail gun and drove 50 minutes to my wife’s job covered in blood and boogies just to show her what I did.
TheFuzzyotternutts m..m.maybe you could have just taken a picture with your phone?
The score was beautiful- it reminded me of Mary poppins when frank comes out of the floor boards.😂👍I love the movie too and your show. Good work, thanks again.
You know what stresses me out looking at your bookshelves I know this is like 4 years old but looking at the bow of that top shelf my Lord!
its more like ten years really, and if it helps those shelves never broke or collapsed.
one of my very fav horror movies of all time both this and hellbound have a dark fairy tale feel to it....its fucked up lol.
Having read the novela I really want to know more about The Engineer who's the real leader in the story. Even though I enjoyed The Scarlet Gospels I wish Barker would write a story just about The Engineer.
When he turned on the kitchen light and found the rotting food I dropped my phone in disgust lol
"Demon to some, Angel to others" never made sense outside of the short story. Pinhead and the Cenobites are pretty much demons, then eventually evolve into slasher killers as the series gradually began to stink, to everybody they encounter.
The films, for me, utterly fail to characterise them as these "grey" beings.
Blisterdude123 I always assumed the "angels to others" line was more directed at the people who either worshipped them, enjoyed the pain and torture or loved sending others to their hellish domain for greed or other selfish reasons. Not necessarily that they're grey rather they've delt with some messed up people ☺️
in actuality this is wrong its based off another story as they aren't from this universe and pinhead is female the demon thing is purely the movies talking out their ass and is for bullshit as they are not meant to be just evil
I like your review, this is still and always will be my favorite horror film, novella and sound track. It does work in almost every aspect even now, the weirdness is what makes it work. What gets me is the Zodiac gets it in Hellraiser. "Freaks"-1932 Tod Browning is my second "Phantasm" my third. "The Possession of Hannah Grace" took parts of "Hellraiser" it doesn't work for me.Christopher Young composed the scores to "Hellraiser", "Sinister" and "Drag Me To Hell".
Have you checked out the Leviathen documentary? It's a 3 disc masterpiece!
I think Mr Daecon will like the new Hellraiser.
I'm stupid but if Frank opened the box to experience pain, pleasure and sensations beyond our comprehension and then get's pulled into their realm, why would he want to escape? It's not torture in that sense and even in the end he seemed to get off on it. Did he just get bored?
Thats true it's not really specified his reasonings but i think its because he couldn't come (pun not intended) and go as he pleases, cause he enjoys what the cenobites offer, but its still a prison basically, that my wha ti figured anyway.
I think some of the more "artsy" parts of the movie that you speak about, relate closer to Clive Barkers Novella.
Still best review channel on TH-cam
15:16 I always assumed Frank has molested he and he had said come to daddy before doing so
Do they ever go into detail about how someone escapes the Cenobites? It seemed pretty easy for Frank, as all he needed was someone to bleed on where he was killed and he's just crawls out.
I would if there was any establishing lore on how it did it but there completely zero for a specific reason were no supposed to know and I imaging consider he still existed somewhere in the cenobite dimension the feat required some amount of actual running and escaping how would he have gotten the box otherwise
Interested in if your opinion on movies that they are to be enjoyed not studied and analyze has changed since you're actively pursuing a forensics degree. Good for you man btw!! Really glad you've come back. Rewatching some of the golden oldies after that new hellraiser review of yours from yesterday.
analysis is fine i do it myself all the time, but pretentious over analysis which is just as rife in the forensic community, is not needed.
@@deusdeaconReviews well said
I still think it would have been better sticking closer to the book and having the Cenobites not renege on their deal at the end. It would have kept more with the idea of Frank being the real baddy, and kept the Cenobites as an interesting "angel to some daemon to others", that follows their religious rules, and like in the book leave her as they know she'll call them again on her own one day.
Animal blood is a solid idea. Julia and Frank were extremely short sighted.
For the past two yrs almost every month I watch this playlist lol
Obviously the flowers are a reference to Voltaire's classic work candide, where our hero rejects the enlightenment and learns that the flower garden is a metonymy for mans defiance of...aw fuck it. It's a fucking flower. Nothing more
No, it's Kristie "flowering" into womanhood. You know Barker has a thing for innuendos.
I do agree with you about seeing the forest through the trees.
I was a teen when these came out and I never saw them at the time. I always felt that these were the high honor horror, then I saw this about 2 years ago and made it thru maybe 10 minutes before turning it off. I was so mad because this movie was so bad that I assumed it was like the 5th or 6th one, and they ran out of story. The guys in my school spoke all the time about these movies!
Never saw these movies, thanks for the reviews.
Personally, the biggest problem I had with this film was all the dubbing Of American accents on British actors.
Fact: The Scene Was Cut From The MPAA to give an X rated Appeal To R Rating 24:59
I forgot about the music in the gooey floor emerging scene so for a moment I thought you were messing about. The same music cue is used on Old Harry's Game, the Andy Hamilton radio comedy about Satan.
Clearly Andy Hamilton was a hellraiser fan, or at least a Christopher Young fan.
"Surprise Jesus" XD
Question: when Julia opens the box, why do they decide to take Kirsty?
Those events aren't connected, Julia opened the box and was taken by it, Kirsty opened the box and the cenobites wanted to take her because of it.
This could be me reaching but I think Julia's devotion to Frank could be explained away through BDSM after all BDSM is a aspect to the hellraiser lore so maybe the idea is that Julia is a massive submissive and loves the idea of a really dominant controlling man. I mean as you said it is to a bit of an extreme however I have seen just how far some BDSM relationships can go I mean just look at masochist characters.
frank and Julia are in a toxic abusive relationship i think it would be doing a disservice to the BDSM community to say its the same thing
@@deusdeaconReviews Yeah I absolutely agree That's why I said this could just be me reaching for a possible explanation of her almost insane devotion to Frank just me rattling my brain for a possible explanation and I do have friends that are a part of the BDSM community and they do explain quite clearly that abuse is not accepted or tolerated within those relationships I don't know I thought I would at least try and provide a possible explanation.
11:29 his face after that was priceless
the only time I jumped was when the Jesus statue appeared nfnjknsdjk
As someone who’s active in the BDSM lifestyle, her devotion and attraction to the brother makes sense. Now I’m not saying she’s not messed up or that it’s a healthy relationship, but it’s a bit of the foundation to her attraction to him.
Dom in the streets, sub in the sheets. She’s a very strong willed woman who needs an even stronger willed man in her life. Her contempt for her husband is reflected by this, because in her eyes he’s a fucking pussy. She wants a man that will continue working or come and frell her hard WHILE he’s still bleeding, not a puppy who comes wining to her instead of expelling the same energy to take care of it himself.
hey, if you dont mind me asking, when u uploaded this review, was it blocked in any country cause of copyright? or is it visible in all?
When will you be reviewing the "Killer Office Chair " movie?
When Pinhead confronts Frank at the end, he gives off strong predatory vibes.
is he not supposed to ?
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Oh he definitely should. 😄
11:28 best WTF face ever
I always viewed the peeling of the rat's skin as foreshadowing how he peeled Larry's skin to wear as a suit.
Speaking of killer office chairs, will we get a review of Killer Sofa (2019) by chance?
no , not at all
10:57 Maybe it's a nod back to "Little Shop of Horrors" (the original film not the musical)
frank and Julia are like Harley and the Joker
Ivan Trajkovski sadly that relationship is romanticized now.
I'm surprised you never mentioned how they dubbed over human Frank's voice because of his English accent.
I talk about it and go more in-depth on the why in the sequel video
When Frank cuts the skin off the dead rat in front of Julia he is showing her what he's going to do to Larry.
1:55 "Those who live in sweat-boxes should not throw stones"
I don't seem to remember Frank being so...juicy
I think hes skinning the rat at the edge of the bed to let her know he needs the skin of someone???? But I'm not sure
If the nail had been on the landing or bedroom doorway, It would have been less unusual.
I'm probably too late but no one tell him the made a 10th film
I'm well aware, ill be reviewing it as soon as possible.
So, the cenobites are like slaanesh from warhammer 40k
pretty much.
@@deusdeaconReviews now that's a crossover I'd want to see.
The homeless guy was the guy that sold the box to Frank. Frank was so fucking hot it gave me wood back then.
awwwww you should've played the motor head song at the end credits :(
That was the original plan but it became painfully obvious that copyright lawyers would then attempt to roast my gonads for centuries to come.
22:29 Did... Kirsty really think that her father turned Frank into a molten skeleton? Also, would it have killed Pinhead to tell her what was going on? This is less sadomasochistic angel-demon from beyond our realm, and more douchebag!
And.... SURPRISE JESUS
How do I watch your older reviews , the link always takes me to time warner
BrianMovies Maker I'm not sure why the time Warner thing that's very strange it sounds more like an issue with your connection rather then the link but i will be uploading everything within the next few weeks anyway if that helps.
deusdeacon ok cool
Anyone know whats the poster on the right side?
its a Frankenstein joe tour dates poster, frankenstein joe is a made up band, made by the youtuber jesse cox, i got the poster when i bought some of his merch.
Dude I just noticed the drawing on the wall when Frank buys the box looks like the creature that come and take the box at the end. Not looking to deep just think it's funny I noticed it in the review rather then the movie
6:18 uh it may very well surprise you but but knife and cnc kinks exist. It's just a bit weird but that does seem to be the kind of thing they are into.
Im well aware of BDSM culture and kink culture, I would question if you really know about them, If you think they are the same as the toxic mess that frank and Julia have got going on.
Sad thing about us humans (dumb) is that they'll fall for people like Frank, masochist.
What is the name of the song at the beginning
Look at me by Die! She said here :- th-cam.com/video/HF-eZ55CLxI/w-d-xo.html
"Epic nine movies (oh jesus)"
Fate (and bad filmakers) clearly had other plans for you.
I know I'm SUPER late to the party. But after the 50th time seeing this review, I was thinking about Frank's last words.
"Jesus wept" I wonder if he was actually making fun of Jesus' reaction to the pain (sensation). Like, he was enjoying it and thought it was funny that Jesus couldn't handle it.
I dunno. Just a thought.
thats not a bad idea really, makes a lot of sense with franks masochism and the fact he enjoys sacrilegious imagery like the statue they found in the house at the start.
All I hear is Garak
they call that deep tinatus nine
what’s your intro song?
Look at me By Die! She Said
Deusdaecon Reviews THANK YOU!! i’ve been on a binge watching your videos and the song is stuck in my head so i had to find it