That was really nice of Brinks to think of the customer who might forget their combo, and provide huge wrench gripping surfaces to simply force it open instead.
I find it enjoyable that LPL has such a consistent method of making videos. The only way you can tell it's an old video is by the quality of the sound gear. A+
I like this lock holding device for torture testing better than a vice. It would be more realistic in the field. I am glad you are implementing it in your videos.
What a crappy design. They actually put ridges that make it easier to grab with pliers. Brute force twist attacks like you did, should have been tested at the factory. Thanks for showing us this design flaw.
A lot of American market locks are built in the same Chinese factory, just with different brand etchings or stampings on them. It's sad really. The more expensive the lock is, the more QC it undergoes at the lock making factory. QC on these cheap locks you can buy at the hardware store are next to none and are flimsy.
Rumor has it they are developing their own, self proclaimed tool grade, case hardened peanut butter for their lock bodies. Won't Master lock be jealous.
@@scootergeorge9576 Really!? I heard that they were working on a “self-decoding/self-picking/self-breaking” lock that activates when you say “Lock Picking Layer.” But I also heard that it’s a top-secret project, so Shhh! 🤐
I love when LPL posts these lock entry exploits because most of the time im shocked to see how easy it is to open something designed and sold to us to keep others out. That exploit took half the time as wheeling in the correct combination. Keep these great videos coming!
Hi Harry, So true regarding safes and safe bolt control handles. One particular Australian made Chubb safe, the high security "Isolator", when locked, the spoked bolt control handle free wheeled. No comparison to the disc padlock with the small "handle" of course, but your analogy was the same, I'm sure, as you said, the little lever would break, leaving the padlock still locked. Regards, Brian.
I'd like to see an autopsy on that lock. It looks like maybe you just popped the sidebar out of position, which is why it won't close back up. I wonder if you torqued it the other way if it would pop back in, which would be even worse as it wouldn't be immediately apparent that the lock has been forced. That said though, in my experience Brinks locks are about on par with Master locks. Just like Master, I wouldn't trust them to lock up a port-a-potty.
I'm wondering if it'll lock again if you dial in the combination properly. Like if it's just popped past the locking point, rather than breaking it forever. But also yes on the autopsy.
Imagine getting interrogated by LPL ... "Ok, he gave us some good information, but I think there's more than we can extract from him... So let's head down to the garage and see what we can find"
WoW! I just got one of these locks too. Thanks for the lesson. Seems I'm better off with the key version discus lock. It takes a lil bit longer to pic. Very informative, and helpfull video. Thanks
As primitive and brutal as it seems, in the Middle Ages there were established protocols in torture to extract confessions. The first stage was "examination of intention" also known as "showing the instruments", which was often sufficient.
I've rewatching some of these older videos, I think this is an easy design fix for "Brinks" ... just fill in the die that casts the part that the channel locks held ... to creat two MUCH smaller protrusions.
Slide a screwdriver shaft diagnoly between the two edges and flush with the dial face and twist it that way. I suspect it will provide enough torque to fail the lock, but a screwdriver is easier to carry around than channel locks. Nice video.
What I would do to fix this lock is change how the lock actually locks. Rather than the combination mechanism *disengaging* from the lock body, the combination mechanism would **engage** the locking mechanism only when a correct code was given. Otherwise, it would just spin freely, held in place only by the bearing surfaces that keep it from rattling out of the lock body. Not only would it prevent this attack from working, but it would also ensure that the lock wasn't irreparably damaged by someone trying a brute force attack like this.
I'm learning that calling a *plumber* might be a lot cheaper and easier than calling a locksmith... at least to get in; replacing the lock - maybe not so good.
Ran across one Saturday in a basement and there was no way to cut the clasp. It was connected to some kind of shield that was mounted to the door. I just went outside and unbolted it. It was like they were more worried about keeping people in than out.
Looks like Brinks saw your posting. I tried your technique today and the mechanism broke without opening the lock. Now I have a lock on a U-Haul storage box that is inaccessible. Should have called a locksmith. Not sure they can help me now.
I'd think they did test it, and considered it fair game. They looked at the chance of losing a few customers, versus the hundreds of thousands of locks sold, and decided it was well within acceptable margin of risk.
I formerly used this lock for my bicycle lock chain. And I think with the loose extra chain, it would be harder to pull this off because it would twist all over. But not impossible.
I noticed that you used the WordLock in this video but I don't see any other videos highlighting that lock specifically. Would you consider making a WrodLock video? Thanks
If I ever start a lock company I’m hiring this guy as my sole quality control manager. Or at least someone with the same level of skill and out of the box thinking when it comes to figuring out the flaws in lock design.
For the time involved, I'd go with the keyed version, and did, just yesterday. I felt like I didn't trust the longevity of the combination mechanism, but this video gave me a completely different reason not to trust the lock.
Thank you for pointing out how manufacturers "name" a lock which implies strength, security and fortitude. But when out to a simple real world test just crumble and fail easily...
What I mean is the combination center part the round part just spins freely so I really busted it and I don't know what to do now because I can't get it to open
So I did this technique at my unit and I'm still here because the whole mechanism of the dial broke and the d*** like the bolt part whatever that is that slides in-and-out to lock it won't move so what did I do wrong I need help
@@brianwilson3076 If you can't apply enough tension by hand to decode it, try using a pair of channel locks as a tension tool. Apply firm rotation and work left to right.
That WordLock you showed! I have one a friend gave me, and me being a novice, cant decode and open it. I think I have the last 2 letters but thats it. any advice @LockPickingLawyer
commando25101 I’ve picked that style padlock before - Uhaul units use them. What usually works for me is over lift the pins, let up tension to drop in place - then use lifter pick to get the binding pins. Heavy tension.
I appears that so many lock manufacturers have no shame at all so it's fun to watch LPL put some serious shame on them.. Brinks was just MEGA-seriously shamed.
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That was really nice of Brinks to think of the customer who might forget their combo, and provide huge wrench gripping surfaces to simply force it open instead.
It should come with a little repair kit to restore it to its original compromised state.
wait but u r a girl, y would u be interested in this?
I find it enjoyable that LPL has such a consistent method of making videos. The only way you can tell it's an old video is by the quality of the sound gear. A+
I really love being able to get a true review of a product before buying it. Thank you truly.
I like this lock holding device for torture testing better than a vice. It would be more realistic in the field. I am glad you are implementing it in your videos.
What a crappy design. They actually put ridges that make it easier to grab with pliers. Brute force twist attacks like you did, should have been tested at the factory. Thanks for showing us this design flaw.
@Hugh Munro Strong but could not use tools I guess. 15 minutes with bolt cutters come on it's a 30 second job!
@@stepheneaton7785 Tbh you wouldn't even need to index it yourself since LPL has the model of the lock in the title for the vast majority of videos
The gripping serrations are an unfortunate necessity of the design and indicate that the design was inherently flawed to begin with.
I'm guessing brinks is trying to catch up with master locks reputation for reliability
A lot of American market locks are built in the same Chinese factory, just with different brand etchings or stampings on them. It's sad really. The more expensive the lock is, the more QC it undergoes at the lock making factory. QC on these cheap locks you can buy at the hardware store are next to none and are flimsy.
🤣🤣🤣
“…Master Lock’s reputation for reliability.” Hahaha! Funny!
Rumor has it they are developing their own, self proclaimed tool grade, case hardened peanut butter for their lock bodies. Won't Master lock be jealous.
@@scootergeorge9576 Really!? I heard that they were working on a “self-decoding/self-picking/self-breaking” lock that activates when you say “Lock Picking Layer.” But I also heard that it’s a top-secret project, so Shhh! 🤐
"OK, now let's head down to the garage.........."
Lock wets itself.
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*oils*
*_fucking dies_* **
The designed failure point was the locking lug.
I love when LPL posts these lock entry exploits because most of the time im shocked to see how easy it is to open something designed and sold to us to keep others out. That exploit took half the time as wheeling in the correct combination. Keep these great videos coming!
They even give you a nice round jagged toothed surface to which your channel locks fit so nicely.
Hi Harry, So true regarding safes and safe bolt control handles. One particular Australian made Chubb safe, the high security "Isolator", when locked, the spoked bolt control handle free wheeled. No comparison to the disc padlock with the small "handle" of course, but your analogy was the same, I'm sure, as you said, the little lever would break, leaving the padlock still locked. Regards, Brian.
I'd like to see an autopsy on that lock. It looks like maybe you just popped the sidebar out of position, which is why it won't close back up. I wonder if you torqued it the other way if it would pop back in, which would be even worse as it wouldn't be immediately apparent that the lock has been forced. That said though, in my experience Brinks locks are about on par with Master locks. Just like Master, I wouldn't trust them to lock up a port-a-potty.
i would like to see it dissected as well i want to see what broke
I.was going to suggest the same thing. I think it could be popped back into place.
I'm wondering if it'll lock again if you dial in the combination properly. Like if it's just popped past the locking point, rather than breaking it forever.
But also yes on the autopsy.
look at bosianbill's video for that.... th-cam.com/video/ZY38wmtglK8/w-d-xo.html
They tend to complement each other.
You would *lock* a port-a-potty!?! You monster!
Imagine getting interrogated by LPL ... "Ok, he gave us some good information, but I think there's more than we can extract from him... So let's head down to the garage and see what we can find"
"the combination is all zeroes" just like this locks build quality.
This is why I always come here before I buy any locks. 👍🏽
I remember in high school they used to break into lockers using hard cover dictionaries on American combination locks with the keyhole on back
My friend has this lock on his storage unit and I wanted to know how difficult/easy it would be to bust it. Once again, LPL hasn't disappointed me.
WoW! I just got one of these locks too. Thanks for the lesson. Seems I'm better off with the key version discus lock. It takes a lil bit longer to pic. Very informative, and helpfull video. Thanks
"broken inside" like my soul
John Dough thank you for proving that this comment will always be here
Tried this. Turned it easy enough with the channel locks but didn't open. Going to get me grinder.
I'm surprised that this lock didn't just open itself up when you waved these big pliers around it.. such an overkill! :D
As primitive and brutal as it seems, in the Middle Ages there were established protocols in torture to extract confessions. The first stage was "examination of intention" also known as "showing the instruments", which was often sufficient.
Giving some major side eye to that BULL SHUT LOCK at 1:21.
Nice! Now I can steal the bike I've been wanting for the last 2 years.
That words that no lock wants to hear "let's head down to the garage"
wow man.. i imagined this happening.. and you .. made it .. happen. ......
I was about to buy one of these. Guess I'll keep looking. Thanks for the information, I'm subscribing to your channel.
As much as I admire elite picking skills, the brute force attacks are primitively satisfying.
The most brutal way to tell lock companies, "your lock is sh*t"
I've rewatching some of these older videos, I think this is an easy design fix for "Brinks" ... just fill in the die that casts the part that the channel locks held ... to creat two MUCH smaller protrusions.
Try putting in 0000 as the combination to see if it opens / close it using the pliers and see if it locks
Love your videos
Thanks. I have this lock on my trailer. But not for long 👍👍
Now that was amusing to watch lol Thanks for the video LPL!
Was about to buy one of these. Lol the search continues
It's not a flaw, it's a feature. If you forget the combination you won't be locked out.
For anyone wondering, it's about two thirds in the video
that testing jig looks fun
So who makes a best or even good padlock now a days !!! Great video !!
If I ever see a hasp like this I'm gonna run away lol, good job!
Very cool demo my friend very bad flaw on the lock😊👍👍😊😎😊
Wow, you're such a brute! 😅 Why are brute force attacks so fun to watch? 😎✌
Don'z Lockz because breaking stuff is fun, watching stuff get broken is almost as fun. Lol
Symphony of destruction!
/m/, ,\m\
Don'z Lockz; Being educated by something being destroyed is fun in so many ways, and LPL is the Master...
When you get this lock at Home Depot, be sure to pick up Channel Lock pliers too (in case you might forget the combo).
You explain things so well thank you
Slide a screwdriver shaft diagnoly between the two edges and flush with the dial face and twist it that way. I suspect it will provide enough torque to fail the lock, but a screwdriver is easier to carry around than channel locks. Nice video.
I'd also suggest angling the little... "grips", so that grippers like your channel locks can't grip as easily and slide off
What I would do to fix this lock is change how the lock actually locks. Rather than the combination mechanism *disengaging* from the lock body, the combination mechanism would **engage** the locking mechanism only when a correct code was given. Otherwise, it would just spin freely, held in place only by the bearing surfaces that keep it from rattling out of the lock body. Not only would it prevent this attack from working, but it would also ensure that the lock wasn't irreparably damaged by someone trying a brute force attack like this.
Good thing they put those ridges on the grip so your pliers won't slip off and you hurt your knuckles.
very nice.
I loved the word lock!
This channel confirms the old saying, locks are only meant to keep out honest people.
Well done. I like your test lab. Being a lawyer is the wrong job for you LOL ;)
I'm learning that calling a *plumber* might be a lot cheaper and easier than calling a locksmith... at least to get in; replacing the lock - maybe not so good.
You can tell that's he's a father because he goes for the channel locks instead of the locking pliers.
Bring back the 'Twist Attack' videos. They tend to be the weapon of choice of crims so its good to see the results...
I wonder what the arrow and dot is meant to indicate. Drill here, please?
It's the direction of opening. Drilling there won't get you any prize.
Amazing buddy ..thanks for sharing. 😎😎
Ran across one Saturday in a basement and there was no way to cut the clasp. It was connected to some kind of shield that was mounted to the door. I just went outside and unbolted it. It was like they were more worried about keeping people in than out.
Are there any disc padlocks that are actually secure?
That same technique used to work on older car door locks... You would think brinks would have known that.
Looks like Brinks saw your posting. I tried your technique today and the mechanism broke without opening the lock. Now I have a lock on a U-Haul storage box that is inaccessible. Should have called a locksmith. Not sure they can help me now.
WOW, you would think they would test something like that before hand,
I'd think they did test it, and considered it fair game. They looked at the chance of losing a few customers, versus the hundreds of thousands of locks sold, and decided it was well within acceptable margin of risk.
Nice picking. I like it.
Actual name-brand Channel Locks (tm)!
This looks like the Lock equivalent of if a House was wired up with Power with ZERO Fuses on duty...
The Chinesium is weak in this one. Needs stronger Chinesium.
Chinesium doesn’t get any stronger than this I’m afraid!
Not a skookum choocher
Oh my! They were a good lock once. If it's the same Brinks
I formerly used this lock for my bicycle lock chain. And I think with the loose extra chain, it would be harder to pull this off because it would twist all over. But not impossible.
I noticed that you used the WordLock in this video but I don't see any other videos highlighting that lock specifically. Would you consider making a WrodLock video? Thanks
Is this a new alternative to the lid on pickle jars? Cause it opens like one.
I have one exactly like it. A couple of TH-cam Video's later & I was able to Crack the Code in less than an hour.
I figured it out. You sound like Chris Hanson
Given what you know about locks would you be able to design a pick proof, burglar proof lock and would it be affordable and practical? Just curious
That was fun. Thanks for sharing
I wonder if those "Hardened" marks have any relation to the real hardened steel?
After seeing all the LPL videos, I think it is safe to say investing in a shotgun is a better alternative.
If I ever start a lock company I’m hiring this guy as my sole quality control manager. Or at least someone with the same level of skill and out of the box thinking when it comes to figuring out the flaws in lock design.
Is there a video on that other lock he showed in the video?
Could I use an angle grinder to remove the gripping points on the knob and make this a better lock?
For the time involved, I'd go with the keyed version, and did, just yesterday. I felt like I didn't trust the longevity of the combination mechanism, but this video gave me a completely different reason not to trust the lock.
If there's such a thing as locksmith universities, you have earned an honorary degree.
Is that dial made of zinc? Torch it.
Thank you for pointing out how manufacturers "name" a lock which implies strength, security and fortitude. But when out to a simple real world test just crumble and fail easily...
Is there a good quality Combination Disc Lock available, for people who won't use keyed padlocks?
Did you happen to find the wheels to be shielded on this lock ? Trying to decode one myself and getting zero feedback.
Any way without breaking the lock?
How can you open this type of lock without breaking the lock..I forgot the combo numbers
What I mean is the combination center part the round part just spins freely so I really busted it and I don't know what to do now because I can't get it to open
Oh what a poor little lock, but a very interesting method to overcome the locking mechanism. Did you try to decode it before?
So I did this technique at my unit and I'm still here because the whole mechanism of the dial broke and the d*** like the bolt part whatever that is that slides in-and-out to lock it won't move so what did I do wrong I need help
so is it still usable afterwards?
So you have to destroy the lock, not decodable ?
This lock can also be decoded pretty fast with no tools.
Im having a hard time with mine
@@brianwilson3076 If you can't apply enough tension by hand to decode it, try using a pair of channel locks as a tension tool. Apply firm rotation and work left to right.
@@jeremiahsouthworth5112 hell no. I just watched what a pair of channel locks can do to this lock. 😂
To date, 18 Brinks employees didn't like the video...
That WordLock you showed! I have one a friend gave me, and me being a novice, cant decode and open it.
I think I have the last 2 letters but thats it. any advice @LockPickingLawyer
Thank you China well-built😂
You can see his reflection at the bottom of the lock.
Have you tried to pick the squire R1 lock in the decent version of their padlocks?
commando25101 I’ve picked that style padlock before - Uhaul units use them. What usually works for me is over lift the pins, let up tension to drop in place - then use lifter pick to get the binding pins. Heavy tension.
What's inside that broke?
Is there a padlock you would recommend? Thanks.
I appears that so many lock manufacturers have no shame at all so it's fun to watch LPL put some serious shame on them.. Brinks was just MEGA-seriously shamed.
Lol, "OK, that's definitely broken inside." YA THINK???
You are really insightful (and that lock was certainly poorly designed).