Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy - (Eric Purdue translation) [Esoteric Book Review]
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- My review of Eric Purdue's new translation of Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy, published by Inner Traditions.
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I heard Eric Purdue's interview on glitch podcast about his research and background, I need this translation.
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Thank you for doing this review, FF! I will certainly be picking up this edition soon, to add to my library.
I work for UPS, you're lucky that the only damage to those books.... nobody today cares about other peoples packages. Hell other peoples ANYTHING. I myself try my best to be careful, I put myself in other peoples shoes before i do everything. I'm 42 and I've learned over the years apparently i was the only one raised that way....
I just ordered this book on your recommendation. I already own the Donald Tyson version, so at first I thought, "Oh it's just another version of the same books", but after your review I saw how this can complement the version I already own. Great review as always, I appreciate your attention to detail and thoughtful analysis of the book and the subject matter. I made sure to order through you're link, too! Have a great day.
Thank you so much, @Doug! I really appreciate the gesture! 😄🙏
It doesn't compliment it, it completely replaces it !
Uff, those scuffs and marking on the case and dust jacket, it hurt to look at. Thank you always for your honest reviews. ❤️🙏🏼
I feel like I may enjoy the BLP version over the other two... At least as an introduction to the Three Books.
Thank you for going over this. As someone who doesn't own any copy of the Three Books I've found it difficult to decide which one to purchase. Now I feel like I have a great idea of the differences and can make a much more informed decision. I still want all three but hopefully now I'll be able to at least choose one to start with lol.
If I may offer my view, I really advise the Donald Tyson edition. It's composed of all three books and far more affordable than the Eric Purdue edition. It is written in old English but each page has a subsequent translation page that really helps the reader. It's a great consideration for an all in one package
@@betablockrr Ok thank you. Those are definitely some good things to consider.
@@betablockrr Tyson's edition is still in (early) modern English! Part of the reason I felt a new translation was needed was due to Tyson's frequent erroneous notes and "corrections". Many of his notes ARE helpful, but unless you know the material, knowing the helpful from the incorrect can be tough.
@@eric_purdue While I do not underestimate the value and hard work you have put into your translation, which I very much hope to own one-day! Unfortunately not everyone can afford it. Not to say it's not worth it, it very much is worth it! But in these situations I feel the Tyson edition fits well and still has a great deal to offer for an all in one package. However I just have to say, I'm in love with your version and I hope I can, one day add it to my shelf!
Sorry for making a late comment here! I just rewatched this, and at the end the reviewer wondered why I didn't mention Paul Summers Young's version. There are a couple of reasons: first, Mr. Young's version came out while this was in production - which was quite lengthy. By the time his came out, several drafts were written, and I would have needed to unravel the ball of string again. The other reason is that I haven't read his version. Had it come out earlier, I would have included it in my textual comparisons.
Thank you for the explanation, Eric! Makes sense 😊🙏
Translation has become a subject of academic investigation and often heated debate for several decades. There are in fact several translation theories and translations are done with many different purposes, especially the more scholarly ones, on the one hand, and those that are more intended for public dissemination, on the other hand; there are also those that are situated between one pole and the other, looking for a middle ground between them. I believe that this video illustrates these three main possibilities very well, which is clear from the reading of the paragraphs that our dear FF graced us with in this video.
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My Amazon UK order is still showing a publication date of December 9th. Looks amazing. Hope mine is in better condition. I already have the BLP edition but have been waiting on this translation before actually reading.
YEah Amazon have been doing weird things with publication dates recently. I wonder what's going on...Either way, just a few more days to wait then, I'm sure you'll be impressed!
It’s just been listed as dispatched. Hope to have tomorrow. 🤞
Wow the best books of all time along with Trancidental Magick and the Keys of Solomon etc.
This new edition certainly does them justice!
@@FoolishFishBooks I think it's beautiful, I love all of your books BUT I can't afford the collection for one and 2 I'm a paper back guy anyway always was prince aside.
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Did your finger land on the word FOOLISH in the index!? A very good and interesting look at the different editions. Thank you.
I'm glad i watched both of your reviews on these modern versions before buying.
I like this version much better than Black Letter Press's version.
The BLP version seems like they turned it into a condensed Reader's Digest format.
Like they went all out on the pretty Package of the book, and skimped on substance.
I may pick up the Llewellyn version as well, so i can check out the footnotes.
Love your channel.
Thank you for sharing your reviews and thoughts with us.
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I keep finding references to this work in my studies. Do you consider Agrippa's Three Books on Occult Philosophy to be a foundational text? Is it a work which everyone interested in the occult should read?
Small tip: if you're about to purchase 3 books of occult philosophy, try to find the 3 book edition (like the one in the video) and avoid the single tome that contains all 3. It's just too inconvenient cause it's massive and really heavy.
Jeepers I just can’t do $239 cdn!! Great review thanks brother!!🙏
It's available at a significant discount through many channels. The Inner Traditions website offer a discount if you sign up to their newsletter 😉
love ur reviews! can you review agrippas "Numerologia Ocult"
Could u make another video about the Goetia but maybe go over more of the actual process of invocation?
Wow, they're gorgeous...aside from the dust jacket scuffs. When jacketless they almost look like Black Letter Press editions, just larger. Cool find.
Almost 😄😉🙏
I just ordered these on Saturday night (Ominous, perhaps?) and received it this very Sunday! And, yes! Beautiful edition and luckily no scuffs or damage...the books are beautiful and ...........I can't wait to conjure some demons.....ha ha! Just kidding. Looks like a real Interesting translation. Cheers!
What a great overview of the three editions! I've been catching up on your channel and enjoying it very much. In your opinion, if a person could choose only one edition of Agrippa, which would be more helpful to comprehension of the material--the annotations of Tyson or the translation of Purdue? Thanks!
Hi @Douglas 😄
So glad you've found the video useful! Thank you for your kind words 😊🙏
Such a helpful video, thank you so much! From what I understand, Henry Cornelius Agrippa was quite the pious Christian, right?
For a name that means 'caused great pain at birth' there sure were a lot of Agrippas. You got the guy in the bible, the Roman general, and Cornelius here
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Which one is better this one or Warnock’s?
Is this version worth its price compared to the other versions which are comparably cheaper
I want to buy that book
Foolish Fish:I just recive Eric Purdue's translation,is amazing,but i have same problem with quality of set as hole!
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My book box arrived damaged as well.
😢 such a shame 😞
Try using white gloves like for old grimuars to be even more professional
I want this translation extremely, but I just can not justify the price at this time in my life unfortunately.
It's not inexpensive, no question! 💸
For the price of the set that's disgusting how there damaged that way
Well. It's disappointing, not sure about disgusting, it's a lot of money, sure, but unexpectedly cheap for something like this!
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My old black paper back I've had since the 1980
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I still believe that the J. F Latin is the true translation only because Eric Purdue oversimplified it that it's almost meaningless
Wow. I mean, yes, you can love J.F.'s translation, but what you say about EP's translation is categorically inaccurate (as anyone can tell just from the tiny snippet I read out loud).
Learn Latin. Then read the original.
The packing for this item needs to match the price. Packages will often be dropped and sometimes thrown in the package delivery business. If the shipper does not follow up with proper packing (a cardboard box with multiple forms of wrapping) then you should expect these kinds of issues.
Surprisingly, the packaging here seemed fine. I honestly think it's a factory issue.
the high price SHOULD go along with perfect condition.
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Just got done reading all three of the books! It’s such a masterpiece of knowledge! such an amazing book it’s definitely an expensive trilogy but we’ll worth it, and well written.
I just bought this after seeing Esoterica's video with Eric Perdue. Your video changed my mind when I was first thinking about buying it and decided not to. After learning more about the translations on Esoterica and Sledge's praise changed my mind again. It is vastly important. A shame I only recently bought Tyson's version over a month ago, exactly a few days after the return window. It is what it is! I wanted to come and see how pretty the book is. Appreciate the video this is definitely a great book that deserves a twenty-minute review.
Interesting review. One little thing though...........this is not Middle English. This is Early Modern. If you're "used to reading Middle English" then you've probably been reading Chaucer in its original version.
I love the book. Came almost perfect without the huge ink thumb print smudge on the cover of book 1:(
The J. F. translation is not Middle English 🤔. That's Chaucer, etc. (Whan that Aprille with his shoures soute The draught of March hath perced to the roote… and this is the closest to modern English it gets)
I follow Eric Purdue on Facebook so I seen this ut was iffy about purchasing it, but after seeing this I'm definitely ordering one
I would be interested to know more about how public domain books are published in this way. Is it a case of pub houses typesetting and redesigning/packaging arcane texts? Refreshing them essentially or are there other considerations made/rationale behind this?
This is a full re-translation updated and researched over a period of 10 years for accuracy, so very much not in the public domain!
For a beginner do you think Agrippa is a good place to start or would it better to read something else before hand? I’m trying to gain an understanding of the early roots of magic as well as figuring out a path.
I was also thinking maybe starting with Tantra Illuminated.
Thanks,
Melanie
You'll likely end up buying and cherishing both!
In spite of the condition that this series came to you, this looks to be a wonderful edition.
Can you briefly state which translation do your feel to be closer in accuracy to the original?
Yes. This one for sure!
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How essential would you say this book is (based on content, not presentation)?
Probably ranks as #1 (in one translation or another). It's the work on which most of the Western tradition relies.
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NOICE!! I just put that on my wish list the other day. Thanks for the info and the translation comparisons, I appreciate it.
Good one to have on the list for sure 😊👍
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Somehow this does seem like the definitive edition at the moment. In terms of aesthaetics, readability and price. For me at least the bigger format is superior to BLP and the aesthetics and readability far superior to the llewellyn. Oh i don't know :D
Someone needs to make an edition with Purdue's translation, Tyson-style massive explanatory footnotes and appendices, and a really nice binding. I would pay many monies for such a thing.
Thanks for the detailed comparison of the language.
life is just a dust cover
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Thank you for the review! I would like to say that my copy arrived in excellent condition.
picked up a copy of this edition. Thank you for the honest review was going to get the Tyson edition, but after seeing this I changed my mind.
Wow yeah under the dust cover is a thing of beauty.
I lucked out because my copies are perfect with no scuffing or flaws. Mine showed up in thick bubble wrap. But I am afraid after I get done reading them there will definitely be scuffing.
Ooh! Yes, very lucky!
Very nice
Damaged books in the mail are so frustrating. My copy if this edition should be here on Wednesday I hope it arrives in good shape. Thanks as always my friend for these awesome videos.
Yeah, my worry is that it wasn't damaged in the mail. This seems to me to be a production issue.
Edit: if only they'd watched your latest video on packing books properly, right? 😄🙏 Loved that video!
Nooo i already got the other edition , the unique volume...
it's a great, super useful edition, nothing wrong with that!
Donald Tyson is my pick :)
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Christopher Warnock and John Michael Greer did a new translation about 10 years ago if I remember correctly. Is this new translation by Eric a better translation?
I believe you might be thinking of Greer & Warnock's translation of the Picatrix? If they produced a translation of Agrippa, all references to it seem to have been removed from the internet.
I originally published book one through Warnock. I switched gears shortly afterward. It's my translation!