Yo just used the most classic philosophical method. This is the way Socrates would get points out of people to show them what they truly believe by their own logic
How? He hasn't managed to make him realize what is the essence of philosophy, as psychology would be enough to tell somebody they are wrong or being hypocritical. The real question was about the usefulness of philosophy, not the behavior of the critic. Maybe one could ask rather, in the true spirit of Socratic irony, what is the definition of usefulness, and why it would be an overarching principle instead of many others, such as piety, beauty or justice.
It's even better because, although I might just be recalling Galileo's Dialogues, but the Socratic method is best utilized with oneself, which is almost precisely what is happening here. Chris if the creator held this view himself at some point and earnestly dialogues himself to the position he represents here, or if he has always thought about it in this way 🙃
Its like someone said gaming is useless. But they do it regardless. Well its because the failed to see what game actually offered to someone, it offers entertainment and joy to those who enjoyed it, and clearly not for someone who talks about how gaming is useless.
I'd argue philosophy is important in today's world because people have gotten so idiotic without questioning and trying to understand things as if they have good ways to show they are right. Alot of world issues with idiocity wouldn't be there if people had been more engraved in it. But idiots exist in every era of which present is the worst
If you want a practical use for philosophy, here you go. Philosophy teaches us about the different kinds of questions we can ask. And while in philosophy there are no solid answers, we can take the skills we learn in philosophy and apply them to other fields where there _are_ solid answers and ask better questions.
@@countryboyred you can ask more thought provoking questions and see further into the future with philosophical knowledge and developed critical thought.
@randyorlando67 i have yet to see much legitimate critical thought from someone who hasn't achieved at least some level of philosophical self reflection. most people simply believe what they believe and then rationalize it after the fact rather than constructing their beliefs from the ground up based on any rationale, let alone change their mind when shown conflicting information. it's quite ironic, but the field of philosophy is full of people who don't have any genuine autonomy or understand anything about it. plenty of folk who just want to stroke their ego. I don't view philosophy as a school of thought to be studied professionally. it is, nonetheless, a skill that can help a person develop individuality, charisma, and further their understanding of themself and those around them, especially when paired with psychology.
@@marcospina162Learning philosophy is useless. It's something that must come to your mind naturally... Also you can't understand something if you haven't seen it... I'm more interested in psychology than to ponder about something that's superficial..
@@irrelevantwhitekid3856 for me, philosophy is like a vague mathematical formula... but for you to follow with it... you must understand the basics and have some real experience on its groundwork...
philosophy really helped me overcome my trauma and depression. And taught me how to be a happy person. I think reading philosophy was far more useful than my therapists.
so some psychotherapy like CBT were derived from stoicism its just modern way of repackaging the same stuff, now take minimalism thats a mild version of the ascetic lifestyle of buddhism learning to not be attached to materialistic stuff
Yes and many of them aren't sea ching for truth but rather proving themselves right, or just mental masturbation for the competition. I think destiny falls in this category often.
There are people who study philosophy to learn new things and cover gaps in their knowledge, and those who just use it to reinforce opinions they already have and seem smarter. Thanks to the internet, it's harder and harder to distinguish b/w the two.
Everyone since Aquinas is just trying to figure out how to avoid his conclusions instead of building on them. (Duns Scotus was right, though. Everyone after him 👎)
@@michaelmicek many who came after Aquinas have discussed his conclusions. You can simply look up the Wikipedia page for his philosophy to read through a compilation thinkers picking apart or defending his philosophy. To argue that a 13th century friar is the ultimate boogeyman of philosophy and the last 600-700 years of philosophy has been "👎" is really dumb.
Philosophy is extremely important for me, people around me have gone machine like,narrow minded, no objectivism or neutrality. We all need to ask ourselves that "why are we doing what we do.."
@@lsilverblade5475 i, for one, enjoy both philosophy AND being passive aggressive. i could write an entire paper on this one existential question, i feel like, and would enjoy every second of it XD. first, i feel like you have to define what "meaning" IS. is "meaning" there right from the start? or is it born from interactions between you and your surroundings? i haven't delved into existentialism too much: this is just what came to mind.
before i study philosophy i thought it was useless, after i studied it i was wondering how can someone live without it, the more i studied it the more i realized it was indeed useless.
@@Kenzōu_Tenma the more you study the more you realize there isnt one concept to describe life. life is a set of changing variables and reactions and meaning is very subjective so philosophy is just a waste of time since it simply doesnt work/too subjective.
@@duewest1987 there are better ways and those ways aren't philosophy.. I'll take physics psychology and neurolobiology instead. if i feel depressed or like my life is meaningless or anything I'd now it has nothing to do with my vision on life but the chemical balance in my brain and that's how i figure out the solution because whatever conclusion i got into to form a philosophical concept in fact doesn't stick around for too long before i realize something else.
@@yamizakygo5869 Many key concepts in psychology are rooted in philosophy of mind. Mindfulness has been in the Eastern Zen traditions for centuries. Ask yourself, why do doctors take the Hippocratic oath? Why do sciences have ethics boards and committees? Because ethics are integral to keeping science in check. Why do we have a justice and legal system? Because justice is a philosophical concept. Why do we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship? Because our governments, our social institutions, our interpersonal relationships, our relationships with ourselves - all have philosophical foundations. Science only tells us *how* to do something, philosophy tells us *why* we should do it in the first place. There are better and worse ways to structure society, to practice medicine, science, politics, law, to be a friend, a partner, a person. That is the point of philosophy. "The unexamined life is not worth living."
The best discussions always occur in your imagination. It's great that you then have the perfect points ready to throw at a weakened, imaginary opponent, giving you satisfaction of having beaten yourself. Now all that's left to do is film yourself reenacting it and post it to TH-cam shorts where like-minded people can share in the power fantasy
Be silent ape, if you attack directly on a prepared form of insight youre no much different than the prideful straw man you try to make out of this. This is but a portrait of a general rule that you probably, as the subhuman you are, cant abide to counter-argue, be kind to yourself and lower your pride, everything you think you know gets destroyed by few words cause so weak is the groundless systematic mind
Ive never heard someone say "philosophy is useless" and mean it like "i dont have a philosophy and you shouldnt either" its how you think, everyone has one. What ive heard it meant as, and mostly agree with, is that actually _discussing_ it is ultimately pointless and changes nothing. Understanding you are a pragmatist is as useful as getting a diagnosis for a mental disorder that doesnt require treatment as a fully mature adult. Congrats, you have a more accurate label to identify with now. Your life will now _checks notes_ literally not change at all.
Spiritual insight is more important because one cannot think himself beyond level of thought , while passing to a higher treshold of awareness ones philosophy might change to reflect the insight but u cant think yourself into it. It seems most peoples philosophy reflect where they are at .
@@michaelmicekThe Lord Jesus wasn't an "L" lmao, I know you used it ironically, but I just wanted to say he, at many times advocated for the poor, the unable, the needy, and did many miracles in his life.
Alright but the point is that what you learn in philosophy (at the very least the things im learning) is not, in fact, how to think, how to argue, how to do any of these things. Instead, we learn facts, we memorize, then forget. So while the subject itself is perhaps not useless, the way in which you learn about it most definitely is (for me at the very least)
@@teuntromp2717 No, I am studying at uni, so a lot of it is nowadays based on my own control over how I learn and I fully realize that. However, when I first started taking philosophy courses I was very motivated and extremely excited. This quickly changed when I started going to lectures, only to find my motivation quickly dissipating due to lackluster professors who really did nothing except recite facts in monotonous tones. The specific courses I go to, and the people in charge of them make it extremely difficult to do anything except sigh over another assignment with unclear instructions.
For me, philosophy is more into "theory" about how you see nature in everything. What made people mad? How beautiful is our nature as human beings? But that is just from me who studies philosophy from video, experience, movie, story, etc. I think that what makes philosophy interesting
Yeah learning philosophy in a classroom as a bunch of facts to remember is rather bland. True philosophy is meant to be something developed through countless conversations where you practice expressing and evaluating ideas, learning the beauty of well articulated concepts and the joy of roasting lame ones. It’s like sex ed versus sex.
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What you mean maths, you can’t be serious, another short asked “ if 3 hours to dry 3 towels on the clothesline then how many hours to dry 9 towels… asked some older kids who say 9 hrs 😹🙀 … all need to go back to hanging out a line full of towel babies nappies, called reality check… rather than meaningless pursuit of wracking up likes 🤙 Philosophy is the measurement of true state of boredom
@@IisLasagnaYou may win triple the amount and still get hurt by few words from even an undergrad, dont be a fool, remember your whole pride and life is a pathetic lie you little ape!
Idk if roping someone into debating philosophy or pointing out their philosophy *is their philosophy* really disproves anything. Just shows that philosophy underpins everything, including it’s negation. But philosophy will never be reality, and beside life philosophy, things like metaphysics that functionally only serve to increase the complexity of reality than make it better. Call it pragmatist or don’t. The fact of the matter remains the same.
to think about ones life is important as something like math or science to society. math and science come from philosophy, and ultimately, people make society so our collective philosophy is our society's view on things
Much of the other fields have had common roots with the concept of Philosophy, to the point where it has grown interconnected or independant depending on what youre looking at and for.
What i would like to see is a philosopher who honestly digs into how writing as a form of communication has allowed certain types of philosophies to proliferate to an anwarranted extent, because the nature of writing is as inactive as it is. Yes, i can have the frequent energetic fervor when im writing about some idea i have that i might feel is a paradigm shift for myself. But the very act of writing for others to read, especially if you want the widest audience, has its own inherent bias toward those who are willing to sit for hours and days and weeks, and write or read said writings. The earliest philosophers lived in a more active time, but even so, they generally always lived in the cities. Only later did some philosophers come from or live in or prefer to live in countrysides, but that was after the industrial revolution when even country life (for some) became much less physically demanding. There are few if any philosophies of life today. Never forget that Socrates preferred to talk and didnt write anything down. And during the most active/chaotic times in any region, most leaders (lords, barons, monarchs) didnt find it worth the time to learn to read. Only after obtain a degree of sovereignty and security over their domains did they have themselves or their children taught to read.
When we say "philosophy" we do not mean "any talking and thinking about the world". But yeah, go ahead and replace the original meaning with this extremely wide one and make claims about it istead. (And then philosophers brag about how studying philosophy helps you escape fallacies)
@@countryboyredAlso, good job sir. And I would like to add : question of studying philosophy and is it usefull , is also a question of comparrison . Is it usefull to study it or to live life and understand philosophy of whatever . If it is more usefull for understanding life through life than question is redundant. Maths and science etc -> so you are pragmatist -> you want to acto on philosophicall ideas etc . You don't have to know the words behind it and to read at all philosophy to do it. And this comes from someone who actually likes philosphy. Acting on philosophical ideas, understanding it and reading books on it is the real topic here . You dont have to do both. So you could actually argue on that standpoint not that it's not usefull to study it , but that it's not necessary.
i study philosophy not to be productive or useful, however because it brings peace to my mind to become an inch closer to validating thoughts and questions i have of the world.
In a life that we know is meaningless, and everything and everybody we know will end. Philosophy is the only way to come to terms with it. Our species, and everything we have and will achieve will die for an eternity, only philosophy will allow us to accept it.
Well this is why spiritual/mystic insight is more important , thinking cannot think it self beyond thought so you can never realize greater truths and insight that are beyond level of thought
it's through the meaning of the words that he used. the words might have stayed the same, but they developed a new meaning. i've been in the comment section a while, i don't remember any exact quotes, i'm sorry.
Philosophy is a great way to find purpose behind doing stuff and means of how to achieve it. Sure you can go to work every day but at some point you’re going ask yourself “why am I doing this?” and “how do I cope with xyz or how do I find the will to achieve xyz” philosophy can answer those questions in meaningful ways. Sure some philosophy is just thinking for thinkings sake like metaphysics but even that is good for developing the actual skill of thinking.
I don't think you need to study it or understand every philosophical position out there (although that can certainly be a beneficial or entertaining thing to do if you want to), but everyone engages in philosophy from time to time. Thats a good thing. To better understand yourself and others, you need to better understand fundamental ideological differences that touch on personal philosophy. Imo the best use of philosophy is as a social tool.
“If we ought to philosophize we ought to philosophize, and if we ought not to philosophize we ought to philosophize ; in either case, therefore, we ought to philosophize. For if philosophy exists we ought certainly to philosophize, because philosophy exists ; and if it does not exist, even so we ought to examine why it does not exist, and in examining this we shall be philosophizing, because examination is what makes philosophy.” ― Aristotle
If: 1. Math and science are the study of the logical world. 2. Psychology is the study study of the illogical word. Then 3. Philosophy is the study of wisdom (the bridge between the logical and the illogical).
@@GuitarGoals respectfully, I disagree. The points you listed: the human mind and behavior are in most scenarios inherently illogical in nature. Why did the respected and honorable sheriff murder his wife when he caught her cheating? Wouldn't he of all people think it wrong? The answer to that question is simple. He did it because in the heat of the moment and confronted by the complete betrayal of the one he loves all rational and logical thought is removed from his mind and rage overtook him. My point is that, that is what psychology seeks to understand what guides our behavior, and while yes in your day to day life most people make simple decisions based off logic it is overwhelming true that in most heated situations and times of struggle people make decisions based off of illogical emotions.
@@Spazattitude I'm sorry but this point requires you to believe emotions to be illogical, which is just not a personal belief I have. I believe emotions are actually quite logical. Also psychology isn't just the look of emotions but memory and intelligence too. Mainly abstract ideas that cannot be perceived in neurology. I believe that memory and intelligence are quite logical too. Psychology also cannot be applied outside the mind. If something illogical happens outside of it actually they use psychology in an attempt to explain it in a logical way. However obscure oddities outside the human mind need to be unexplained to remain illogical, so if psychology explains it, it becomes logical. It's rather a paradox the phrase "Study of the illogical" because the point of study is to explain, and once explained it becomes logical. That technically applies to everything in science, that's what's it about, finding out find we don't know. Once explained it's no longer illogical. Sorry for the detached arguments by the way
Philosophy is important since its the root of all knowledge. But I don't like studying it and what I mean is like analyzing philosophical figure or their exact thoughts or could I said "Philosophy Degree in university". I'd like to see its derivatives since it's more applicable.
I've long said philosophy has both a PR and a communications problem. It snubbed its nose at layfolk and often is arrogant as hell. At the core though, it is soooooo useful.
Well I would say framing perfect questions is what got us so far , cause we wondered and pondered about the reality of nature and framed questions which led to science and it's different streams.Now those subsidiaries on its own are more complicated and all thanks to philosophy look how far we have come.🎉
I see it like this: Since the world’s inherent meaning is at the very least unknown or perhaps even absent (there is no way to tell at this point of humanity’s development), people can create their own meanings to fill the emptiness and boringness of the world. Considering those meanings can differ drastically from each other, there aren’t any inherently “useless” things - there are only things that are useful for certain kinds of people. If your meaning of life is to get wealthy and become successful (which is as respectable as any meaning is) - you probably have no reason to study philosophy and should focus on more grounded things. If what helps you find your place in the world is trying to broaden your understanding of the world and life as a whole - philosophy is yours to study.
Philosophy is useless unapplied. Or, even simpler, it's useless until it isn't. I don't really think people hate philosophy as much as they hate some of the pretense baked into the conversation surrounding philosophy. None of it is inherent to the subject matter, it's what the worst people bring to the table.
Think that philosophy is useless is like saying that the looks of Burj Khalifa is very good, but the base of the building has no importance. Tall buildings stand straight because of the base.
Philosophy is a cultural knowledge inquiry, we evolve from this thinking and inquiry that studying it until now- its a humanity- for a person to choose whatever you're other background field of study.
Those things are obvious because philosophers said them first and then the rest of the world got along repeating them. It's like when you are watching a movie and there's a big cliché, but then you realize that that movie is from the 50s. Contemporary philosophy is producing the obvious stuff of the future while we are talking
Everyone has. So many great scientist and mathematicians spend enormous amounts of time on proving things we already know. Newton literally spend 20 years on proving that things don’t move unless something moves them.
Well if a philosopher makes you mad and only attacks semantics you are with a bad philosopher. A good philosopher will make you go oh I didn't think about that maybe I wasn't as correct and concrete as I thought
Yo just used the most classic philosophical method. This is the way Socrates would get points out of people to show them what they truly believe by their own logic
it’s called the elenchus
“the most classical philosophical method” lol
Bingo
Socratic method still works!
@@coreyleander7911wdym
bro socratesed him
Socratesed 🤣. If you don’t mind, I’m using this as part of my vocabulary
This word should've been added to the Oxford dictionary.
bro pedophiled him?
Wait is that the right term? Im confused right now....
How? He hasn't managed to make him realize what is the essence of philosophy, as psychology would be enough to tell somebody they are wrong or being hypocritical. The real question was about the usefulness of philosophy, not the behavior of the critic. Maybe one could ask rather, in the true spirit of Socratic irony, what is the definition of usefulness, and why it would be an overarching principle instead of many others, such as piety, beauty or justice.
My boy just got Socratic methoded on
It's even better because, although I might just be recalling Galileo's Dialogues, but the Socratic method is best utilized with oneself, which is almost precisely what is happening here. Chris if the creator held this view himself at some point and earnestly dialogues himself to the position he represents here, or if he has always thought about it in this way 🙃
1 John 5:13 ESV
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.
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Quoting from _The Myth of Sisyphus_ is a great pick for a looping short
this comment smwh soothed me of my internal philosophical chaos
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@@avneeshkulkarni952 So you're philosophical???
“Philosophy is useless”
Nihilist:fr
*engages in generalization fallacy*
Lol
Moreso meaningless than useless
"hah..tell me bout it"
Incorrect.
Personally, I don’t care whether it’s useful or not. I just enjoy doing it.
Its like someone said gaming is useless. But they do it regardless. Well its because the failed to see what game actually offered to someone, it offers entertainment and joy to those who enjoyed it, and clearly not for someone who talks about how gaming is useless.
well, to me math not more important than video games or philosophy. Everything is meanengless means everything is equaly meaningfull
But why? Does it give you ways to justify your politics or something?
@@coreyleander7911Makes you less dumb
I'd argue philosophy is important in today's world because people have gotten so idiotic without questioning and trying to understand things as if they have good ways to show they are right. Alot of world issues with idiocity wouldn't be there if people had been more engraved in it. But idiots exist in every era of which present is the worst
Moral of the story
"If you think philosophy is useless, then you don't think at all"
Are you sure?
that's an interesting philosophy
Philosophy is the mother of all the things he deemed useful.
@@memegazer exactly
@@coreyleander7911Are you sure that this question is useful?
If you want a practical use for philosophy, here you go.
Philosophy teaches us about the different kinds of questions we can ask. And while in philosophy there are no solid answers, we can take the skills we learn in philosophy and apply them to other fields where there _are_ solid answers and ask better questions.
You can ask different kinds of questions with 0 knowledge of philosophy
@@countryboyred you can ask more thought provoking questions and see further into the future with philosophical knowledge and developed critical thought.
@@certified0093 developed critical thought doesn’t require knowledge of philosophy
@randyorlando67 i have yet to see much legitimate critical thought from someone who hasn't achieved at least some level of philosophical self reflection. most people simply believe what they believe and then rationalize it after the fact rather than constructing their beliefs from the ground up based on any rationale, let alone change their mind when shown conflicting information. it's quite ironic, but the field of philosophy is full of people who don't have any genuine autonomy or understand anything about it. plenty of folk who just want to stroke their ego. I don't view philosophy as a school of thought to be studied professionally. it is, nonetheless, a skill that can help a person develop individuality, charisma, and further their understanding of themself and those around them, especially when paired with psychology.
@@countryboyred Critical thinking is _part_ of philosophy.
*_NEVER_* argue with a philosopher...
*_ESPECIALLY_* not about philosophy itself 😅
because you will waste even more time - than the philosophers usually do, so just let them do the wasting and dont invest any interest in it.
done.
@@warlock0true Avoiding philosophy would be wasting our potential instead.
@@marcospina162Learning philosophy is useless. It's something that must come to your mind naturally... Also you can't understand something if you haven't seen it...
I'm more interested in psychology than to ponder about something that's superficial..
@@NAME-sl2msThe best philosophers learned philosophy from other people what do you mean?
@@irrelevantwhitekid3856 for me, philosophy is like a vague mathematical formula... but for you to follow with it... you must understand the basics and have some real experience on its groundwork...
These are the type of deep conversations I have with myself during eight in the morning philosophy class
The sentence "Philosophy is Useless" in itself a philosophy
And this is the paradox of philosophy that my Philosophy thinks that philosophy is useless
Eating your own feces is technically food, stop huffing your own farts.
A philosopher inside his mind be like
in reality, "SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT PHENOMENOLOGY AND SWING YOUR FUCKING HAMMER"
What do you mean? like being delusional?
@@Namrec_955just like most philosophers
@@Namrec_955like talking to himself and debating the ideas of the world we study
Tard
@@Namrec_955No….kinda?
Bro was so smooth with the sunglasses back on moment. Quality short 👏👏
You honour me
philosophy really helped me overcome my trauma and depression. And taught me how to be a happy person. I think reading philosophy was far more useful than my therapists.
so some psychotherapy like CBT were derived from stoicism its just modern way of repackaging the same stuff, now take minimalism thats a mild version of the ascetic lifestyle of buddhism learning to not be attached to materialistic stuff
Its easier to cope with life when you actively try to understand it
But seriously though, philosophy may not my useless, but some people are useless at philosophy.
Yes and many of them aren't sea ching for truth but rather proving themselves right, or just mental masturbation for the competition. I think destiny falls in this category often.
@@dartskihutch4033
"Mental masturbation for the competition"? Elaborate.
There are people who study philosophy to learn new things and cover gaps in their knowledge, and those who just use it to reinforce opinions they already have and seem smarter. Thanks to the internet, it's harder and harder to distinguish b/w the two.
Everyone since Aquinas is just trying to figure out how to avoid his conclusions instead of building on them.
(Duns Scotus was right, though.
Everyone after him 👎)
@@michaelmicek many who came after Aquinas have discussed his conclusions. You can simply look up the Wikipedia page for his philosophy to read through a compilation thinkers picking apart or defending his philosophy. To argue that a 13th century friar is the ultimate boogeyman of philosophy and the last 600-700 years of philosophy has been "👎" is really dumb.
No matter what you say it’s philosophical 🎉
It still doesn't pay any bills
@@donotreply8979😂😂😂
@donotreply8979 that's pretty philosophical
@donotreply8979 so you believe any skill that can't be exploited for money, doesn't hold value?
@@stanloonaur69 Yep 🤷♂
Or more like, if a thing holds value, it automatically helps you in making money.
Philosophy is extremely important for me, people around me have gone machine like,narrow minded, no objectivism or neutrality. We all need to ask ourselves that "why are we doing what we do.."
Or a passive aggressive philosopher will say: why do you think life has to have meaning
@@lsilverblade5475 i, for one, enjoy both philosophy AND being passive aggressive. i could write an entire paper on this one existential question, i feel like, and would enjoy every second of it XD. first, i feel like you have to define what "meaning" IS. is "meaning" there right from the start? or is it born from interactions between you and your surroundings? i haven't delved into existentialism too much: this is just what came to mind.
Me with my Masters degree in philosophy explaining myself to the other cleaners at my job as im scrubbing pub toilets:
Laugh out looolol. But seriously is at your job.
You can get very philosophical while scrubbing toilets
I heard they're opening a new philosophy factory though, so maybe you can finally put that degree to use.
@@cosmicpebble-s7z peeling soiled sanitary products off the walls has a way of making one reflect on life.
@@TheYahmez😂😂😂
Sometimes I question whether my decision to be a philosopher was worth it, but videos like these restore my doubts ... cheers.
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Common misconception :) @@urmomgay0166
Lol
This is a genre of comedy i didn't know i wanted 😂
This video is honestly great, you explained it very well
Great message. Smooth content.
“It’s not like math or science…”
Hoo boy, nobody tell him where we got math and science FROM.
Hey! Why this video is unavailable? It is absolutely brilliant and should stay!
Love this video. Didn’t know where it was going. The classic arts are not dead
So proud to find this in my feed. Constantly levelling up. 😍❤️
before i study philosophy i thought it was useless, after i studied it i was wondering how can someone live without it, the more i studied it the more i realized it was indeed useless.
Lol wdym😂
@@Kenzōu_Tenma the more you study the more you realize there isnt one concept to describe life. life is a set of changing variables and reactions and meaning is very subjective so philosophy is just a waste of time since it simply doesnt work/too subjective.
Just because life is complicated doesn't mean there aren't better and worse ways to navigate it. Thinking about that is never a waste of time.
@@duewest1987 there are better ways and those ways aren't philosophy.. I'll take physics psychology and neurolobiology instead. if i feel depressed or like my life is meaningless or anything I'd now it has nothing to do with my vision on life but the chemical balance in my brain and that's how i figure out the solution because whatever conclusion i got into to form a philosophical concept in fact doesn't stick around for too long before i realize something else.
@@yamizakygo5869 Many key concepts in psychology are rooted in philosophy of mind. Mindfulness has been in the Eastern Zen traditions for centuries. Ask yourself, why do doctors take the Hippocratic oath? Why do sciences have ethics boards and committees? Because ethics are integral to keeping science in check. Why do we have a justice and legal system? Because justice is a philosophical concept. Why do we live in a democracy and not a dictatorship? Because our governments, our social institutions, our interpersonal relationships, our relationships with ourselves - all have philosophical foundations. Science only tells us *how* to do something, philosophy tells us *why* we should do it in the first place. There are better and worse ways to structure society, to practice medicine, science, politics, law, to be a friend, a partner, a person. That is the point of philosophy. "The unexamined life is not worth living."
The format of this video ! - I get the message but the creativity is great
When everything is a waste of time, nothing is a waste of time.😀
@@popeJohnthetwelth an ass comment
The best discussions always occur in your imagination. It's great that you then have the perfect points ready to throw at a weakened, imaginary opponent, giving you satisfaction of having beaten yourself. Now all that's left to do is film yourself reenacting it and post it to TH-cam shorts where like-minded people can share in the power fantasy
I guess by commenting you have a humiliation kink
@@Jacklawro assuming i identify with either of the personages in your play
This one must hit home because he actually replied lol
Be silent ape, if you attack directly on a prepared form of insight youre no much different than the prideful straw man you try to make out of this. This is but a portrait of a general rule that you probably, as the subhuman you are, cant abide to counter-argue, be kind to yourself and lower your pride, everything you think you know gets destroyed by few words cause so weak is the groundless systematic mind
All Philosophy is already answered. No one simply knows where to look.
Kind of like mathematics
@@AT-9777interesting thought, also like physics
@@wtz_under True
Its not answered when there are absolute rtrds like you assuming objective truths
Haha cheery fun video for me this morning, been depressed and finally coming out of the hole the past couple days baby! Great, charming and fun video.
Your philosophical insights are like a breath of fresh air in the chaos of the internet. 🌬️
Philosophy is NOT useless. It just doesn't solve any problems. However, thought is obviously the first step toward change.
It does
It does solve problems, depends on what type, some create more problems than solutions
Uselessness and failure to solve problems is the same thing.
It does solve problems though. Plenty of philosophical problems have been solved.
It solves every problem, is not a research field, its everything
Ive never heard someone say "philosophy is useless" and mean it like "i dont have a philosophy and you shouldnt either" its how you think, everyone has one. What ive heard it meant as, and mostly agree with, is that actually _discussing_ it is ultimately pointless and changes nothing.
Understanding you are a pragmatist is as useful as getting a diagnosis for a mental disorder that doesnt require treatment as a fully mature adult.
Congrats, you have a more accurate label to identify with now. Your life will now _checks notes_ literally not change at all.
As someone who always struggles to find the answer behind studying philosophy and liking it… thank you 🙏🏾 😅
"Like maths and science"... anybody going to tell him?
philosophy is the original. But there the upgrade
@@piglin469we only know what we think we know my boy
@@JayTX. perhaps I admit I am a dumbass, but I see the results that came from the two
@@piglin469 other than medical advancements that prolong an inevitable death and adding more theory I see nothing either really added of value
@@JayTX. the ability to leave our planet.
Spiritual insight is more important because one cannot think himself beyond level of thought , while passing to a higher treshold of awareness ones philosophy might change to reflect the insight but u cant think yourself into it.
It seems most peoples philosophy reflect where they are at .
First time seeing your channel:
Almost got me to subscribe with this first video😂
Sometimes I feel like I’m wasting my time studying philosophy, but this warms my heart.
Philosophy is very important! It teaches you how to think logically and how to reason and argue as is pointed out in this short. 👍🏻
This was brilliant.
The most I got of philosophy is words are fun things to play with. It changed my life and made it so clear
So this is why Socrates got executed. How annoying
My man just wanted to spread some wisdom and got poisoned. One of the biggest L for humanity ever.
@@jasam381arguably his death was as important as his life.
Jesus was a bigger "L" but with an even bigger impact.
@@michaelmicekThe Lord Jesus wasn't an "L" lmao, I know you used it ironically, but I just wanted to say he, at many times advocated for the poor, the unable, the needy, and did many miracles in his life.
Why is it annoying? What's annoying about trying to enlighten people?
@@Kaz-o7u I interpreted "L for humanity" as "his death was a loss", not "he was a loser".
Deicide is a bigger L for humanity.
Camus is the best. I'm currently reading his complete work and available correspondence and it's a delight.
Alright but the point is that what you learn in philosophy (at the very least the things im learning) is not, in fact, how to think, how to argue, how to do any of these things. Instead, we learn facts, we memorize, then forget. So while the subject itself is perhaps not useless, the way in which you learn about it most definitely is (for me at the very least)
That probably has more to do with how the school system works (I assume that you are in high school) than with the discipline of philosophy itself
@@teuntromp2717 No, I am studying at uni, so a lot of it is nowadays based on my own control over how I learn and I fully realize that. However, when I first started taking philosophy courses I was very motivated and extremely excited. This quickly changed when I started going to lectures, only to find my motivation quickly dissipating due to lackluster professors who really did nothing except recite facts in monotonous tones. The specific courses I go to, and the people in charge of them make it extremely difficult to do anything except sigh over another assignment with unclear instructions.
For me, philosophy is more into "theory" about how you see nature in everything. What made people mad? How beautiful is our nature as human beings? But that is just from me who studies philosophy from video, experience, movie, story, etc. I think that what makes philosophy interesting
I think philosophy is the most interesting when you argue about it.
Yeah learning philosophy in a classroom as a bunch of facts to remember is rather bland. True philosophy is meant to be something developed through countless conversations where you practice expressing and evaluating ideas, learning the beauty of well articulated concepts and the joy of roasting lame ones.
It’s like sex ed versus sex.
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Philosophers are their owen most critics.
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Science literally wouldn't exist without philosophy. It's the original science.
It's not the original science.
this struggle to understand this filled my heart...
What you mean maths, you can’t be serious, another short asked “ if 3 hours to dry 3 towels on the clothesline then how many hours to dry 9 towels… asked some older kids who say 9 hrs 😹🙀 … all need to go back to hanging out a line full of towel babies nappies, called reality check… rather than meaningless pursuit of wracking up likes 🤙
Philosophy is the measurement of true state of boredom
Bro won his own argument
Me, 20 years later to myself, trying to convince them that it was fine that I became a Starbucks cashier because of my philosophy major
@@IisLasagnaYou may win triple the amount and still get hurt by few words from even an undergrad, dont be a fool, remember your whole pride and life is a pathetic lie you little ape!
Its an YT video clown
Nietzche... actually said this,
Doing is better
he took it from the bible: faih without works is dead.
faith in Christianity is truth acquired by reason.
eg. the spiritual man judges all things
If you think Philosophy is useless, then congratulations!
YOU'RE A PHILOSOPHER!
I’m subscribing, this is amazibg
This video is a masterpiece.
Philosophy is about to be the most important field in the age of AI
Idk if roping someone into debating philosophy or pointing out their philosophy *is their philosophy* really disproves anything. Just shows that philosophy underpins everything, including it’s negation. But philosophy will never be reality, and beside life philosophy, things like metaphysics that functionally only serve to increase the complexity of reality than make it better. Call it pragmatist or don’t. The fact of the matter remains the same.
to think about ones life is important as something like math or science to society. math and science come from philosophy, and ultimately, people make society so our collective philosophy is our society's view on things
@@zachbohemian sure, that’s why I said beside life philosophy
Philosophy is the highest music - Plato
Much of the other fields have had common roots with the concept of Philosophy, to the point where it has grown interconnected or independant depending on what youre looking at and for.
When someone says to me "Philosophy is useless" all I hear is "I'm a person not worth talking to"
Philosophy is useless.
What i would like to see is a philosopher who honestly digs into how writing as a form of communication has allowed certain types of philosophies to proliferate to an anwarranted extent, because the nature of writing is as inactive as it is.
Yes, i can have the frequent energetic fervor when im writing about some idea i have that i might feel is a paradigm shift for myself. But the very act of writing for others to read, especially if you want the widest audience, has its own inherent bias toward those who are willing to sit for hours and days and weeks, and write or read said writings.
The earliest philosophers lived in a more active time, but even so, they generally always lived in the cities. Only later did some philosophers come from or live in or prefer to live in countrysides, but that was after the industrial revolution when even country life (for some) became much less physically demanding.
There are few if any philosophies of life today.
Never forget that Socrates preferred to talk and didnt write anything down.
And during the most active/chaotic times in any region, most leaders (lords, barons, monarchs) didnt find it worth the time to learn to read. Only after obtain a degree of sovereignty and security over their domains did they have themselves or their children taught to read.
Tbf philosophy has no ground to stand on with an atheist worldview, also existentialism is gay
How come? There's many atheist philosophers and philosophies.
@@zoviqi2388 so? They have no basis for their morality and they cant justify their worldview
@@zoviqi2388yes there are but they have no epistemic justification for the use of philosophy
@@rippedgoat3587You're talking about theology, not philosophy
@@duewest1987 hows that
Heeeeeeee heeeeeee heeeeeeeeee, realizing how important it is….every company needs a historian, a philosopher and a sociologist!
When we say "philosophy" we do not mean "any talking and thinking about the world". But yeah, go ahead and replace the original meaning with this extremely wide one and make claims about it istead. (And then philosophers brag about how studying philosophy helps you escape fallacies)
Exactly, if we extrapolate the meaning of philosophy to “thought” than sure, it is useful lmao
I was scrolling down comments, wondering if someone will understand this . Good job sir.
@@countryboyredAlso, good job sir. And I would like to add : question of studying philosophy and is it usefull , is also a question of comparrison . Is it usefull to study it or to live life and understand philosophy of whatever . If it is more usefull for understanding life through life than question is redundant. Maths and science etc -> so you are pragmatist -> you want to acto on philosophicall ideas etc . You don't have to know the words behind it and to read at all philosophy to do it.
And this comes from someone who actually likes philosphy. Acting on philosophical ideas, understanding it and reading books on it is the real topic here . You dont have to do both. So you could actually argue on that standpoint not that it's not usefull to study it , but that it's not necessary.
@@aleksandarnedeljkovic8104 thank you
i study philosophy not to be productive or useful, however because it brings peace to my mind to become an inch closer to validating thoughts and questions i have of the world.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated. Confucius
Try to defend that and youll end up crying in complexity, not even confucius was in the right to say that, neither do you, ignorant
For me philosophy is a way to reach enlightenment.
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”, said Goethe
In a life that we know is meaningless, and everything and everybody we know will end. Philosophy is the only way to come to terms with it.
Our species, and everything we have and will achieve will die for an eternity, only philosophy will allow us to accept it.
Well this is why spiritual/mystic insight is more important , thinking cannot think it self beyond thought so you can never realize greater truths and insight that are beyond level of thought
Religion fills that gap just as well as philosophy.
No matter how long you study philosophy, you will still die. This is exactly why philosophy dont matter
Philosophers are predicting the future now? How arrogant
@@countryboyred Well yeah it's called theism. A philosophy.
Nice video it makes sense 🫀🙏❤️🔥
I don’t understand how he changed his mind
it's through the meaning of the words that he used. the words might have stayed the same, but they developed a new meaning. i've been in the comment section a while, i don't remember any exact quotes, i'm sorry.
That was really good mate. Spot on.
"what the hell is even that"
Philosophy is a great way to find purpose behind doing stuff and means of how to achieve it. Sure you can go to work every day but at some point you’re going ask yourself “why am I doing this?” and “how do I cope with xyz or how do I find the will to achieve xyz” philosophy can answer those questions in meaningful ways.
Sure some philosophy is just thinking for thinkings sake like metaphysics but even that is good for developing the actual skill of thinking.
I came to just learn philosophy works to cure my depression and understand world and my inner self better
Does it help?
@@robertsimpson2474 stoicism is helping
I don't think you need to study it or understand every philosophical position out there (although that can certainly be a beneficial or entertaining thing to do if you want to), but everyone engages in philosophy from time to time. Thats a good thing. To better understand yourself and others, you need to better understand fundamental ideological differences that touch on personal philosophy. Imo the best use of philosophy is as a social tool.
time is inherently philosophical🤣 philosophy is inescapable
If you are a Hegelian, surely philosophy becomes useless
“If we ought to philosophize
we ought to philosophize, and if we ought not to philosophize
we ought to philosophize ; in either case, therefore, we ought
to philosophize. For if philosophy exists we ought certainly
to philosophize, because philosophy exists ; and if it does not
exist, even so we ought to examine why it does not exist,
and in examining this we shall be philosophizing, because
examination is what makes philosophy.”
― Aristotle
If:
1. Math and science are the study of the logical world.
2. Psychology is the study study of the illogical word.
Then
3. Philosophy is the study of wisdom (the bridge between the logical and the illogical).
No psychology is the study of the human mind and behavior, not the illogical world. Realistically philosophy would take that job in some cases.
@@GuitarGoals respectfully, I disagree. The points you listed: the human mind and behavior are in most scenarios inherently illogical in nature.
Why did the respected and honorable sheriff murder his wife when he caught her cheating? Wouldn't he of all people think it wrong? The answer to that question is simple. He did it because in the heat of the moment and confronted by the complete betrayal of the one he loves all rational and logical thought is removed from his mind and rage overtook him.
My point is that, that is what psychology seeks to understand what guides our behavior, and while yes in your day to day life most people make simple decisions based off logic it is overwhelming true that in most heated situations and times of struggle people make decisions based off of illogical emotions.
@@Spazattitude I'm sorry but this point requires you to believe emotions to be illogical, which is just not a personal belief I have. I believe emotions are actually quite logical.
Also psychology isn't just the look of emotions but memory and intelligence too. Mainly abstract ideas that cannot be perceived in neurology. I believe that memory and intelligence are quite logical too.
Psychology also cannot be applied outside the mind. If something illogical happens outside of it actually they use psychology in an attempt to explain it in a logical way. However obscure oddities outside the human mind need to be unexplained to remain illogical, so if psychology explains it, it becomes logical.
It's rather a paradox the phrase "Study of the illogical" because the point of study is to explain, and once explained it becomes logical. That technically applies to everything in science, that's what's it about, finding out find we don't know. Once explained it's no longer illogical.
Sorry for the detached arguments by the way
By listening to philosophy I learned to think for myself, and came to a great realization that mad me final happy again so yes it can help.
Philosophy is important since its the root of all knowledge. But I don't like studying it and what I mean is like analyzing philosophical figure or their exact thoughts or could I said "Philosophy Degree in university". I'd like to see its derivatives since it's more applicable.
I've long said philosophy has both a PR and a communications problem. It snubbed its nose at layfolk and often is arrogant as hell. At the core though, it is soooooo useful.
@@MaxMckayfulanyone with a degree can become arrogant
You don't need a philosophy degree if you have the bible
If u have a brain , you will realize bible is poor philosophy
It’s not the root of all knowledge, or even a lot of it.
Well I would say framing perfect questions is what got us so far , cause we wondered and pondered about the reality of nature and framed questions which led to science and it's different streams.Now those subsidiaries on its own are more complicated and all thanks to philosophy look how far we have come.🎉
Haha. Very well done.
I see it like this:
Since the world’s inherent meaning is at the very least unknown or perhaps even absent (there is no way to tell at this point of humanity’s development), people can create their own meanings to fill the emptiness and boringness of the world. Considering those meanings can differ drastically from each other, there aren’t any inherently “useless” things - there are only things that are useful for certain kinds of people.
If your meaning of life is to get wealthy and become successful (which is as respectable as any meaning is) - you probably have no reason to study philosophy and should focus on more grounded things. If what helps you find your place in the world is trying to broaden your understanding of the world and life as a whole - philosophy is yours to study.
I love philosophy
he didnt win at the end bcs second guy trying to say put that usless book down and get a life😂
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This is why I hate philosophy.
A common philosophical position
Yes, that was basically Dostoievsky's take towards the end. So, surely you'd enjoy his philosophy! LOL
Philosophy is useless unapplied. Or, even simpler, it's useless until it isn't.
I don't really think people hate philosophy as much as they hate some of the pretense baked into the conversation surrounding philosophy. None of it is inherent to the subject matter, it's what the worst people bring to the table.
It's like when people name drop philosophy as a way to avoid applying it
@@nealjroberts4050 or people waxing poetic while sitting in an armchair doing nothing. I think both ends of the spectrum are pretty obnoxious.
@@Palozon Indeed!
Think that philosophy is useless is like saying that the looks of Burj Khalifa is very good, but the base of the building has no importance. Tall buildings stand straight because of the base.
Philosophy is useless when we don't practice it
But most humans are functioned to just do enough to get money. And never care about development.
Is alchemy useful? Science was built on the back of alchemy.
Philosophy isn’t the base of math or science it’s the other way around
@@coreyleander7911 Doesn't the study of philosophy consist of fundamental questions of logic etc. which are used in math or science?
Philosophy is a cultural knowledge inquiry, we evolve from this thinking and inquiry that studying it until now- its a humanity- for a person to choose whatever you're other background field of study.
Philosophy is what separates us from animals.
Good answer
This is the song that never ends...
I swear, all philosophy geeks have an unjustified superiority complex, simply for saying the most obvious stuff and playing semantic word games.
Then you're hanging out with the right people
@@standowner6979nah. It’s tedious and obtuse.
Those things are obvious because philosophers said them first and then the rest of the world got along repeating them. It's like when you are watching a movie and there's a big cliché, but then you realize that that movie is from the 50s. Contemporary philosophy is producing the obvious stuff of the future while we are talking
Everyone has.
So many great scientist and mathematicians spend enormous amounts of time on proving things we already know.
Newton literally spend 20 years on proving that things don’t move unless something moves them.
Well if a philosopher makes you mad and only attacks semantics you are with a bad philosopher.
A good philosopher will make you go oh I didn't think about that maybe I wasn't as correct and concrete as I thought
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