Agrippa - Three Books of Occult Philosophy - Mystical Philosophy of Mathematics & Celestial Magic
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- Agrippa's 1533 Three Books of Occult Philosophy is the most classic work on the philosophy of magic in the western world. In a previous episode, we explored his occult philosophy of language, this week I turn to his occult philosophy of mathematics: the very bridge between the physical and celestial worlds. For Agrippa, turning to the purely formal world of mathematics and numbers, we discover the very inner logic of the divine on our journey towards spiritual reunification with just that primordial unity of divinity. Let's deep dive into the magic of harmony, proportion, numerals, sacred geometry and music - the systems of correspondence at the heart of modern magic and esotericism !
#occult #agrippa #magic
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How have I not seen this video until today? Yay. Demoness. I put up a new short explanation but with art analysis of my cognitive demon art. (I violate cognitive entropy or alleged randomness of free drawing abstract lines).
Best part of the week is the new Esoterica lecture, thanks Dr. Sledge!
The concept of mathematics being the cornerstone of prophecy develops a deeper layer to it when you consider the modern concept of data modeling: predicting the future by mathematically modeling recurring patterns of dynamic systems to predict future events.
Unfortunately modelling is being used to further corporate/personal agendas rather than the betterment of mankind and connection to the Divine . Too many of us are caught in these dark magic webs.
@@earthdance11 That's not the fault of the techniques themselves. They're just a tool. Nor are those using them for personal gain capable of looking at the larger scope beyond the petty social dynamics they hope to master and are regularly blindsided by events they cannot predict. Garbage in, garbage out.
i am thinking as a laymen non educated in any of this it is really an interesting concept that king Solomon's work is connected to Nikola Tesla but recent work from Eric Weinstein’s seems to prove that there is a bigger connection to everything happening around us. feel like there is something to do deeply with physic just not on a level we are familiar with because of people like Einstein everyday i just get more curious and want to learn more need to understand the 3.6.9.12 are somehow the keys to the universe
Agrippa, the first positivist?
such a good comment
Yes I know how important math is when you magic. I have played D&D.
You really know it when you play ad&d - thac0s and all that
You'd be surprise how many occultists, mystic etc love dnd
@@TheEsotericaChannel oh whew my dad would tell me AD&D stories from overseas (military guy) once in a while, crazy stuff 😁
THAC0 is so backwards, a +1 bonus is a -1 bonus on your THAC0.
Noice!
There’s something wonderful about the fact that if you showed one of Agrippa’s squares to any modern mathematician they would immediately recognize it as magic.
”As above, so below. As within, so without. As the universe, so the soul..."
Thank you for sharing so much knowledge and wisdom in these edifying talks.
Do you also find yourself drawn to Gnostic ideas? It's really interesting to see that phrase here in this video.
Doc!!! U had me craccin' up with da Chappelle/ Rick James , unity ring!!!!
Thank you!
Currently reading the three books, sincerely appreciate these videos. Absolutely love hearing you speak on these subjects. 🙏
The figure starting at 13:07 seems to represent various partitions of the numbers 4 through 8, the number of partitions corresponding to the binomial coefficients in the fifth row of Pascal's triangle (corresponding to the coefficients of (1+x)^4): 1, 4, 6, 4, 1, i.e., there is one triangle with digits that sum to 4, four that sum to 5, six that sum to 6, four that sum to 7, and one that sums to 8. This is such a nice pattern that I doubt it appears by chance, though I can't find any other order to the arrangement.
Agrippa is examining the occult significance of the geometric figure you're pondering. While your insight about Pascal's Triangle is fascinating and I think you could be onto soon something, this particular geometric figure is a classic Geomantic Astrological Chart, where the triangles represent Astrological houses and forces at play. With that in mind, deciphering this image is much easier, as the body parts enclosed in a particular triangle assume the Astrological significance of the corresponding occult forces. Or at least, that's how it immediately made sense to me. I have ideas on the numerological significance of the position of the Arabic numerals, as well, but it's a work-in-progress, haha. Best wishes! ✨
I love that your doing these videos, books from magicians calling even the name of the Messiah, about numerology, patterns occult, so fascinating 😂 ❤️🔥👻👻🙏
Now that I finished the 3 books, I've been going back through all these to make sure I didn't miss anything or to learn something new even though I've watched these before. But it's like reading a book a second time and you understand many more profound insights.
Thank you for the work you do
I learned so much, thank you.
Your vast knowledge of wizardry continues to amaze me.
My favourite thing on Friday night!!!
Math as a bridge to the realm of time and matter. However improbable, I would love to hear a conversation between Justin and theoretical physicist Lee Slomin. How great it would be to hear a scholarly conversation on the old and new esoteric thoughts on the nature of reality in time and space. The language and context by which modern science seeks to explain the reality of time space would be ever richer if they could get over their allergic reaction to these committed thinkers in our past. Keep the baby, throw out the old bath water, and keep building better thoughts on the deepest questions. Thank you as always Justin. Great episode! I'm do for some Agrippa research and some new books :)
Thank you
Thanks Dr Sledge, another great episode.
Thank you for this information you provide. I always look forward to your work.
I'm so glad to have found this channel. I read occult books with interest as a teenager, but you have a way of making the study and the subject *fun* as well as interesting. Thank you for making these informative and enjoyable videos! I look forward to the next one.
@abracadaverous hello there
Great video, well done!
Thank you!! 🥰
i can't wait to start workign again to donate!!!!
Thank you, thank you. I think that you are very important and am beholding to you for your treatment of these topics. Thank you!
Reminds me very much of Tolkien's origin stories of Middle Earth, probably inspired by genuine surviving myths and even in living language (Hebrew). That the Divine hummed or sang or spoke creation into existence. That mathematics manifests in sacred geometry and that resonance (vibration, language, music) is one aspect of sacred geometry. And that music has long helped to shift human consciousness. That the Greek letter pi produces the circle, that the cyclical zodiac of 12 (sometimes 13) signs precesses along a recognizable ecliptic plane, 1 degree akin to 72 years (now a common human life span) and that the 365 day year, with so many calendrical variations simplifying it to 360 days, makes it a model of the 360 degree circle. Also, that the Greek letter phi shows up so ubiquitously in nature and geometry. The great medieval cathedrals being the architectural embodiment of such principles, carrying on the legacy of great Temple construction akin to Solomon's Temple and his use of supernatural means of constructing it. Was his ring or the Shamir an earlier version of the philosopher's stone, an item or substance or idea capable of transmutation? The Shamir supposedly could cut through stone, iron and diamond... and was it achieved through resonance?
The more science reveals the imperceptible, the more Magick proves very real. If Agrippa had known what we know now, I wonder what he'd be able to see. Like if he knew that Saturn sings a song-- 'Voyager Rings of Saturn' on TH-cam. Super eerie! And Tool is a spiritual experience. Don't drive and listen to Tool for sure. But jokes aside, super excited to hear your commentary on the new translation!! Your work on Agrippa (all your work, really) has made him so much more enlightening for myself than I'd ever be able to achieve on my own. Thank you!
Yes tolkens works are heavily based on these occult philosophies.
Very fascinating and Tool indeed is a spiritual experience!
Wow I was thinking the same thing with what the music of the Ainur . Tolkien had such great imagination and detail into his work I often wonder if his take on the topic of creation isn’t much different from reality and creation of our world. That guy was pure genius.Truly Fascinating stuff ! Enjoyed reading your insightful comment 👏 I wondered if anyone else would draw the same conclusions/connection to his work as I was getting out of it . Then again I’m just beginning to learn about Esoteric Philosophy so it’s possible I’ve got no clue what I’m saying and everyone agrees? Lol idk and Tool ?! Big fan of em since the 90’s when I wasn’t yet aware of Tolkien. Strange is life 🤷♂️
Dr., you are a gem, I don't know why I found this channel so late.
Great subject on this podcast
I'm curious about why you never mention Giordano Bruno's theories of mathematics. A source I'm familiar with is _Giordano Bruno and the Geometry of Language,_ by Arielle Saiber. It was published by Ashgate in 2005.
Bruno seems a cross of Bourdieu and Elvis Presley
Awesome!
A true mathmagician.
A practitioner of mathemagics.
great work!!
brilliant mate.
Great episode
Great video ! I have always videos on the 3 books.
I just purchased this book- odd synchronicity!
Thank you very much! Would be interesting to see influence of occultism on other spheres, like politics or economy
Just so you know, I'm still not over "Corny Gripps", and I may never be the same again
awesome
yeah i'm gonna need to get one of those new translations as well. looking forward to that
Yeah Tool likes to do that. Great video.
My apologies sir. I received a tiny sample of Eric Purdue through the Foolish Fish channel.. I'm just drawn to this somehow. It would take me my whole lifetime for this but as a sort of laymen on things Eric Purdue I named his translation
The idea that ancient mathematicians would have believed that the world is actually made up of mathematics would be more surprising if it wasn't for the fact that Shakespeare believed the world was a stage and modern technophiles believe the world might be a computer simulation. It seems like everyone just starts to eventually think that the world is made out of whatever it is they work with.
This explains why I think the world is whiskey and old books
Hello, long time fan. I've just been reading a novel wherein John Dee is the primary antagonist, and Nicholas Flamel is one of the protagonists. Apparently, Flamel was a big time alchemist and philanthropist with mystery surrounding the source of his wealth, as well as his death (exhumation revealed empty caskets, Mwaahahahahaaa). I'm hoping that you might consider doing an episode about him. Just wanted to put in the request. You're doing fantastic work, i hope you keep it up for a long time to come. Peace, 🙏.
Yes Flamel and his wife continue to fascinate to this day, would love to see that.
oh? what book?
@@vrixphillips there r several in the series. The first is called The Alchemyst, (subtitled: the secrets of the immortal Nicholas Flamel). They are written by Michael Scott.
@@profbri.02... the dude from The Office? I'm in.
Thanks
Physics is modern Magic and Chemistry is modern Alchemy and the language of Science is Mathematics.
True but modern Secular physics & chemistry is only operating with 4 of the 5 elements, and missing the most fundamental one SPIRIT, and for that very reason is why it has become s trap within a trap and will lead to a dead end of Eternal 3D imprisonment.
I have a bunch of alchemy books thanks for the scorpios I have met I got more into the occult stuff and somehow end up finding occult stuff randomly from a rune book to a talisman and where I live I found some interesting things too
This video inspired me to go and re-watch the Numberphile videos on the topic "Do Numbers Exist?" (The Philosophy of Numbers).
Then I watched a few videos on "The unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics."
Mathematics is the OS of the universe.
Excellent as always Dr. Sledge!! Could you recommend one work where this magic squares are rightly set?
I think I figured out some of the meaning for those diagrams... they probably relate to magick squares, in a cube form... but first we must understand that Agrippa also explained the Kabbalistic meaning of the Shemhamphoresh, or 72 angels, with three letter names made from a total 216 letters, and it seems 216 is also Plato's "Bride Number"... Marcus Vitruvius Pollio is the source of DaVinci and Agrippa's inspiration for those Vitruvian diagrams, he wrote the text
“De Architectura” which also explains mnemonic devices, so in Book V we read the following,
“Pythagoras and his followers wrote the precepts of their doctrines in cubical arrangement, the cube containing 216 verses, of which they thought that not more than 3 should be allotted to any one precept. A cube is a solid, with 6 equal square faces, which, however it falls, remains steady and immovable till removed by force: such are the dice which are thrown on a table by gamesters. From this circumstance they seem to have adopted the cube, since like the cube, this number of verses makes a more lasting impression on the memory. The Greek comic poets also divided the action of their stories, by the interposition of the chorus to ease the principal actors, so that a cubical proportion is observed.”
Hiya, I’m slowly making my way through all your videos and have to say have been really enjoying your lectures. I was wondering if you have read any of Franz Bardon? Thank again for the amazing content 😊
I have argued similarly for the use and necessity of an understanding of physics in occult and magical practices. When you go to turn on the light switch , there is no assumption that it will not cause the bulb to illuminate. It is understood, consistent, and repeatable. Not so with magic wherein faith and so much goes in and you can wipe off a failed experiment for any number of reasons. If magic can cause any meaningful change in reality, this means some kind of energy is expended, i.e. a closed system wherein energy in is equal to energy out. Basic thermodynamics. I think if this were applied in more practices where our understanding were to be put through the lens of science more so than spiritual, more progress would be made and we would be taken more seriously.
I agree in part, as having a handle on any energetic ability implies an understanding and control of the elements at play. A knowledge of physics is basic to understanding anything in the physical realm. However, we don't live in "only" a material world, so there are laws that (at our inept, experiential states) are not entirely predictable. Just as there are energetic ranges as of yet unexplored in science, there are laws governing them, as well. Part of my personal quest is isolating and understanding some of these. But being unable to utilize scientific method and duplicate the activity, due to a lack of knowledge, doesn't negate the phenomenon.
i agree with the importance of physics, but i'd also add the importance of linguistics (Patrick Dunn has a great book on this), and archaeology
Well, when science can explain the mechanics to its proposed wave function collapsing into particles and the implied power of the observer with our intention to measure reality, then maybe we will grow in our collected human knowledge. Thermodynamics may operate well in a closed system, but do we really know enough to make this presupposition? Maybe. Anyway, I guess it is the faith that science has in its ability to find reality by way of measurement that seems lacking. Any who, I like your comment, it is something I think of often and am trying to figure out. My father is a physicist and this is a wonderful question we play with.
Check out Peter Carroll's 'The Octavo'
He started as a magician and then left that microculture to study physics.
Absolutely fascinating. I'll need to check to see if there are any good translations available or if I need to start crunching a few Latin textbooks. 😅
Latin may be "dead" but it's definitely one of the easier ancient languages to learn as an English speaker. Plus I can guarantee it will make you better at English. Just do it.
recent theories in quantum physics seem to show the universe is based on the same kind of error correcting code as we use in computers.
To make a logical leap here, if this hints that we are in a simulation universe, perhaps that would mean that certain alchemical or magic sigils, words and maths are "cheat codes".
great episode dr sledge! im really curious, what university/studies did u follow?
Thank you Doc, but please include the links in the description for us.
Sir, you just upped your already superfluous rating (in my opinion) with that cultural gem lending more credit to you as a genuine person and someone I personally believe I would appreciate socializing with as friends... Maynard James Keenan, what are your thoughts on his creative outlets in music, and his use of that platform if he utilizes such platforms(his music or wine for example) for possible or potential spell casting/ritual magic?
Arabic Texts, my guess is the Human is broken down by 16 areas or squares. Your foundation "Beliefs" and truth are defined by lessons learned through your experience. That is where you find your equations coordinates to where you are in the Universe.
18:50 -- I sense the possibility of a collab with Early Music Sources ...
Here for class
The work of John Wheeler (It from Bit) & Max Tegmark ("Our Mathematical Universe") are modern versions of Pythagoras's "All is Number"
Nice work. Could you do one on trithemius and the steganographia and also Gustavus selenus? That would be cool. Also, any info on agrippas Paris group making it's way to London would be appreciated :-)
Will def get to Trithemius at some point. As for Agrippa's group, virtually nothing is known about it, sadly.
@@TheEsotericaChannel looking forward to it! Oh yeah. First :-)
I haven't read Agrippa's three books of occult philosophy, but after watching this I've decided to add it to my library. I find it interesting indeed. Mathematics is quite vital to understanding nature and the divine. Fibonacci, Sacred Geometry and especially magick all utilize mathematics, and so it is imperative for one to have knowledge of it if one is to go down the path of studying and/or practicing magick. And the Satori symbol bears a lot of resemblance to the Thelemic symbol🤔
The links for your recommended readings on Agripa are not below (actually for me, above) in the comments, or in the other two videos. I really like to see them, please.
yes
The picture with the numbers....my theory Is..... I always went with how the numbers where associated to body. So some kind of mathematical divine microcosm within ones body. But hay that is my theory !
Outrageously sensational job.
....wow
(Subtle nod to the substance of the Sefer Yetzirah...universe made with 3 books letters numbers words )
You got the juice....Mr. Esoterica
Have you hit Evola’s 3 books on magick or Hermetics?
“Spiral out....keep going” - TOOL
What Is Known Of The 9x9 Luna square ??? Any Specific Info Would Be Greatly Appreciated...
& Amazing Video My Friend!!!
Mathematics is that subject that was created especially for mathematicians, who were bringing new designs to the table. They were not greedy or proud but, in The Division of What Is, humans brought a tool to work, openly. And God for the first time became afraid.
[I shall leave it here and continue my task upon my return. Worry not! Remember how many times reality has already been said into crumbs and, EVERY TIME, the reality we know has been proper and fitting for All. Practice the Meditation of the Null.
We shall converse again in time to come].
Re: 14:00
My thought on the numbers is a ritual language. You can tell people to put their hand at 4, their leg at 33, bent at the intersection of (some other numbers) etc. This is just a very, very broad guess.
Twister?
13:55 This figure you presented, captioned "Note mysterious Arabic Numerals," @ESOTERICAChannel, looks like a Geomantic Astrological Chart in the background, so I'm thinking you could probably draw some sort of numerological correspondence with the Astrological house related to the triangle's number under consideration. Moreover, you could use the numbers in the chart to start generation of Geomantic figures, as they are naturally either odd or even-or maybe there's a missing occult mathematical formula for using this chart and the numbers in Astrological or Geomantic readings? I think the same could be said for the Astrological correspondence to the proportionality/section of the body, as it is contained within the bounds of the chart, so it's influence can be felt in that part of the body-or that part of the body can be seen to have an occult or magickal link with the particular Astrological forces at play in that house. (Oh, and I think the image of the rigid man with arms raised superimposed over the Vitruvian Man just figuratively creates a circle with six points, or two opposed circled triangles, or Encircled Hexagram-and we all know that could be significant, especially since at the time, the hexagram is seen as representative of the classical planets of astrology, as a hexagram with a center point represents all seven ”planets," otherwise known as that old "Mathematoccult" formula: ✡️≈Σ{☀️ ☄️🌎🌘✨}
Just the thoughts of an academically-minded practitioner... Best!
Dr. Sledge- Not related to this topic but perhaps you would deign an answer. The 5th Hebrew letter is Hei. Properly is written as Dalet and Yud, yet in modern writing is written as Reish and Yud. First, the modern style cannot be used in the Torah or other religious contexts. It is non-kosher. Perhaps more toward your area is the symbolic and kabalistic differences between these two versions. Dalet's meaning of the material world, the number 4, being a reish with the addition of a yud. Reish as the head, the numerical value of 200, its connection to evil, etc. It would seem that this might even be the context for the 5 wise virgins in Matthew, or the kosher 5, and the 5 foolish, or the non-kosher 5. I was not raised going through Hebrew school, or any such training. This though popped out to me listening to a Rabbi speaking about the letter Hei and the related meanings. Enjoy your work. Please continue to put out such great content.
beat will revolutionise science, the 'beat' aka frequency
Can't get where are book recommendations mentioned after 23:40.
Math is the bridge between Magic & Science
Mathematics as a cornerstone of prophecy? Well well well, looks like forecast projections just got more interesting
10:00 Cold blooded.
Mandelbrot set, what?!?!?!? It's always fascinating when the rational and the irrational validate one another, in spite of their antagonism
There is a very powerful black magic sorcerer named Dababy. His spells are quite catchy you should check him out. There's this one poem called Suge I use it to banish demons when necessary.
Lil Wayne is also quite a formidable dark lord as well.
Any chance of a video series on figures in mythology like "Abaddon"? About the only thing agreed on that I could find on him was that he is a sort of angel in Judaism. Some say he's evil, others say he's simply the final end bringer. Sometimes called "the angel of the void" is another thing I hear.
th-cam.com/video/XKrLO6ADTRo/w-d-xo.html
"I have tried to apprehend the Pythagorean power by which number holds sway above the flux. A little of this, but not much, I have achieved."
As I work with programming in a language called Magik, I had to giggle a bit.
Computation is a euphemism for sorcery
Id like to see you do something on the 4 cardinal demon kings ...im having a hard time studying them atm ..trying to understand there role in ceremonial magic...i loose the trail..only goes back so far and only find snippets....seems to be a missing part of ritual of today...abramelim has them all bow to him..and apparently they are needed for solomonic work..which i doubt happens..also alot of the planetary demons agrippa says theyre for baneful magic representing negative aspects...where today all over the internet ppl invoke them...although agrippa and other say never invoke only evoke them...meanwhile theyre are bits and pieces of scattered history about ppl invoking them back in the day..hence why the church got so angry as they were worshipping planet spirits instead of the one god...in any event ..it appears both demon and angel were used...perhaps agrippa did this because of fear of persecution..two different stories being told here...
Is there somewhere we can ‘follow’ or even preorder this new translation of the three books that’s coming out?
www.ericpurdue.com/publications/three-books-of-occult-philosophy
@@TheEsotericaChannel doooope thank you!
Wait at 14:09 aren't those are Cistercian numerals? I use those for noting page numbers in the margins of my reading notes, lol.
What is "magic with a k"? The only reference I find for Magik is a Marvel Comics character.
Of course it was going to be Tool. How could it not be Tool. Seriously though, are there any other bands that incorporate well known numerical rhythms, Fibbonacci or otherwise? BTW, Wolves in the Throne Room is a great listen so thanks for recommending it!
Definitely pleasantly surprised to hear him reference Tool.
Power law(s). Universal in application. You’ve no doubt heard of the 80/20 rule, for instance. Pareto Distribution, etc.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_law
What ancient languages can you communicate in Justin?
👀👀👀 nom nom nom
I've seen the forthcoming Purdue edition advertised, but what is the other new edition that is coming out? I've got the Purdue pre ordered, but it's expensive enough that, if there are alternatives, I want to be sure I'm getting the version I want.
The other edition is Paul Summers Young's translation from Black Letter Press. It costs about as much as Purdue's translation, but it's not as scholarly. I would recommend Purdue.
@@pymander12 thanks for the info!
I bought this book. Apparently it was written before the invention of punctuation. I'm sure it's full of amazing stuff but it's so hard to read sentences as long as a paragraph haha 😂
Use nouns as subjects to break up the text.
Js Books of the Occult would be a good band name if it had the right sound.
It's a pity these guys didn't live till the 19th century, when pure math foundations were being laid down. Abstract algebras, theories of groups, Boolean logic, etc.
A lot of that rigor and purity was lost in the 20th century
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@@markchayer325 ?😂
Ok I had to like when you called the guy a jackass
I guess Agrippa was looking for what we call Benford's Law today.
Food for the algorithm (salts, sulfur and mercury)
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