What Happened To Oddity? - DaNovaFRFX

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  • MOTHER has one of the most passionate fanbases out there. Oddity (Originally known as the fan game MOTHER 4) has been in development since 2008 and has not had a public update since 2020. In this video, I go over the history of the project and what might be happening behind the scenes of Oddity.
    ➤ The Mother 4 Story by Press Start To Continue: • The Mother 4 Story
    0:00​ - Introduction
    1:33 - Recap of Oddity's Development
    7:33​ - What Happened To Oddity?
    13:08 - Conclusion
    14:37​ - Outro
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  • @melvint-p9500
    @melvint-p9500 ปีที่แล้ว +1169

    Oddity's development cycle is actually just a Mother 3 reference.

    • @coolgamerjaw8803
      @coolgamerjaw8803 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      LOL

    • @Llama0P
      @Llama0P ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I understood that, lol x2

    • @atwistedb
      @atwistedb ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Holy shit Mother 4 got turned into Oddity, Earthbound 64 turned into Mother 3. Mother 3 took forever to come out Oddity will take forever to come out!!

    • @GottaFistDemAll
      @GottaFistDemAll ปีที่แล้ว +40

      ​​@@atwistedb Mother 3 never got an official localization for the West.
      Oddity will never get an official localization for the East.
      The West made fan accurate translations for Mother 3
      The East will also make fan accurate translations Oddity.
      Oh yeah, It's all coming full circle.

    • @willbrgamer5137
      @willbrgamer5137 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@GottaFistDemAll
      Like god intended

  • @1BlueYoshi
    @1BlueYoshi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    At this point I think I'm more excited on a theoretical post-mortem documentary about what the hell happened with Oddity's development than I am for the actual game itself. We are nearing the point where I have been spent more of my life waiting for this game than I have not waiting for it lmao

    • @coal_powered
      @coal_powered ปีที่แล้ว +26

      i actually remember being excited for winter 2014 when that first trailer dropped

    • @derealized797
      @derealized797 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I *was* looking forward to this at one point, well over 10 years ago... i just remembered it while looking up 'fan games' to see what's new, if anything. Most fan games don't end up being completed for whatever the reasons are, so now i believe it only when i see it.
      Fan games though, almost always turn out amazing, like metroid 2 for example. The fan game was better than the official remake. Wish that we could have more of them. Especially the ones that never came to be.

    • @tokki03
      @tokki03 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Omori came out so there's hope

    • @joezuru3753
      @joezuru3753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@derealized797 Mother encore demo says hi

    • @dordbird
      @dordbird หลายเดือนก่อน

      Development started in '08 when I was 6, I'm 22 now, this game has been in development for almost 3/4 of my life

  • @joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451
    @joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +610

    When Oddity (M4) was first announced, George W Bush was president.

    • @patrickbaker1457
      @patrickbaker1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Simpler times?

    • @GameboyFanatic
      @GameboyFanatic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@patrickbaker1457 Not really with the Great Repression I believe it was called.

    • @louieishehe3419
      @louieishehe3419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Really? I remember it being when George was king.

    • @franciscomendez8314
      @franciscomendez8314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      And Putin was still in office.
      Wait...

    • @patrickbaker1457
      @patrickbaker1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@franciscomendez8314 You're thinking of Donald Trump I believe. The confusion is understandable.

  • @logicaloverdrive8197
    @logicaloverdrive8197 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    6:27 I can't be undersold how fuckin' strong this trailer was and still is. I had to pause this video and go rewatch it. If they dropped this on kickstarter, I swear on my very life that it would clean the fuck up and clear that goal 2-4 days tops. Jesus that trailer was amazing.

    • @neek01
      @neek01 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That is true, but that also come with more stress. Right now since no one is paying, they don’t hold the same responsibilities compared to when they have gotten a ton of money through kickstarter.

    • @maximumforce8275
      @maximumforce8275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@neek01 yeah cuz if someone gave money, they would actually be owed a game. And you cant take over 10 years to deliver that promise because the backer could very well have died by then.

    • @SkarkDogy
      @SkarkDogy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Glad you like the trailer because that's the only thing you're gonna get!

  • @rotomnation7662
    @rotomnation7662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    * drops an amazing trailer for oddity
    * refuses to elaborate further
    * leaves

  • @icedude_907
    @icedude_907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +280

    The thing that always gets to me is the lack of updates.
    Literally just a 10s gif of a character running around a map like once every 6 months would give many much more hope.
    Personally, I think they've come too far for it to die. Those passionate among the devs would publicly complain/leak otherwise.

    • @Elonyx.studios
      @Elonyx.studios ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Whike I do wish updates where more frequant and should be, i think the reason so many indie titles/crowd stop makimg updates is because of 2 things:
      1: sometimes interesting things dont happen that they feel is worth an update. So much of game dev is backroom twiddling that doesnt have tangible things to show in a post or describe without having to describe coding jargon.
      2: game dev is rarely a linear process of building 1 thing and moving to the next piece. More often its bug fixing or makimg the new component cooperate with the rest of the system,only to find out its messed something up that you worked on weeks ago.
      Theres many times where game progress is sent backwards and thats not the kimda news to share with an audiance to build confidence in the project. Especially when that project is already infamous for falling behind amd having a lot of pressure to be finished sooner than later.

    • @ialwayswatchyoutube812
      @ialwayswatchyoutube812 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Elonyx.studios they could literally just say "we are still making the game" every month. no one cares what they give us at this point literally anything even just reassuring people the game is actually being worked on is enough.

    • @joezuru3753
      @joezuru3753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ialwayswatchyoutube812 just give up on this goddamn game, it will never come out, that's even MOther encore demo out and and a lot of other fan games with people actually working on it

  • @astriverofstrengthandknowledge
    @astriverofstrengthandknowledge ปีที่แล้ว +72

    The first time I heard about this project was in middle school. Now I’m a postgrad pursuing masters. If it’s *still* in development after all this time, I can only imagine how much the game was impacted by the pandemic.

  • @TraceyMailin
    @TraceyMailin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    It's gonna release in Winter 2014, I can't wait

  • @ENBYSS
    @ENBYSS ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I think my bitterness comes less from the slowdown and more from the radio silence... Like I'd be fine if I had to wait another decade to get Oddity. The problem personally however is that there' been no updates in 20 months. For something plagued with issues, I just start to give up on the entire project. I know things take time, but I really wonder how hard it is to just send one message every... say 3 months that's just a "Hey! We're alive!"
    I don't need updates personally, I just want confirmation that the project is still in progress, in hiatus, or terminated. Anything. I want to know the devs are *STILL* there. Bleh, that's my main pain point for me.

  • @jaydog1780
    @jaydog1780 2 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    Not to mention we don’t know how much the Covid pandemic has impacted development. I hope it hasn’t been bad for them but I would imagine that it would put a substantial delay on the game

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Oh yeah for sure! I forgot to mention that in the video but their last statement was kinda hinting that covid hurt development. I do wonder though how much of the game is developed in person or just online. Hard to say how much it impacted them but it definitely did to some extent.

    • @patrickbaker1457
      @patrickbaker1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Why would covid mess up a project like this? I'm assuming all the developers work from home anyway.

    • @bluebirdsigma
      @bluebirdsigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@patrickbaker1457 Covid is the universal scapegoat of DOOOOOOOOOOOOM so it gets blamed for everything even if it doesn't make sense.

    • @maximumforce8275
      @maximumforce8275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluebirdsigma exactly

    • @ProsecutorValentine
      @ProsecutorValentine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bluebirdsigma Funnily enough it only doesn't make sense to snowflakes and contrarians.
      That's the best part for convenience.

  • @masahirosakurai2042
    @masahirosakurai2042 2 ปีที่แล้ว +199

    Nice video! I was a little unhopeful about Oddity ever coming out, but your game dev's perspective definitely helped me see the development in another light.

  • @beardalaxy
    @beardalaxy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Looking at Oddity as a dev, it really seems like the constant reconstruction of the game is what is causing to take so long. They're stuck in that thing a lot of devs do where they want to go back and make things better, with a larger scope. That sentiment is nice, but it leads to failed projects and burnout. That is part of what has caused me to only have 2 games under my belt, both of which were created with strict deadlines. It's also why games like Duke Nukem Forever and Cyberpunk 2077 took so long to make and when they finally released, were unpolished.

  • @TayoEXE
    @TayoEXE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Scope creep is so annoying. What it means for me is that as a dev, you have to temper realistically what can be achieved of your vision in a certain time and what you're realistically willing to sacrifice to meet that vision.
    "11:34 "The fact is, you're going to be able to think up ideas way quicker than you're ever going to be able to implement ideas."
    Holy snap, you just summed up what I've been thinking a lot of lately. I think this is why the ideas stage and planning is so important. Figure out what you REALLY want or most of it before actually trying to finalize any implementation as that will take so much longer to do. As scope creep occurs and new functionality and ideas come up, having to go back and scale your previous code and design is so much harder, messier, and prone to bugs and delays.

  • @giggymuun
    @giggymuun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Since this game’s never coming out, should I get Mother Encore?

  • @ians_parks
    @ians_parks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +281

    I know alot of people are frustrated with how long the previous Mother 4/Oddity has been in development but...
    1. These are amatuer devs.
    2. They are not paid, and prioritize paid work over this game to ensure they have stable income.
    3. It is a passion project by FANS.
    4. Devs and directors have come and gone over the years which significantly impacts the scope of the game. The same people who started are not the same people working on it now.
    5. The rebrand requires a complete rework of the entire game, not just redone sprites. Entire sequences, characters, and mechanics must be cut.
    6. This was not crowdfunded, so nobody is owed a game. Even if you've chosen to follow since its announcement.
    7. At no point have the devs shown interest in monetizing the game even after rebranding. They are not out to scam you.
    8. The sheer amount of impatient and angry fans berating them for updates and release dates is likely why the devs prefer radio silence. This is common with triple AAA development aswell.
    9. You aren't going to get a release date until the game is actually finished. They've failed to meet every prior deadline they've set for themselves so it makes zero sense to keep doing it and risk pissing off fans even more with another "winter 2014."
    10. Covid affected everyone.

    • @SmollLassTabby
      @SmollLassTabby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I feel like everyone who follows this game should know this. I do hope it comes out one day. But it isn't their priority to ever finish it. Making a game is...hard. And if they decide well maybe we should just not, we should accept that.

    • @blacktainfalcon7097
      @blacktainfalcon7097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Bullshit. I don't mind them taking a long time or delaying the game. I do mind them literally disappearing for 2 years. It would take them 5 seconds to clarify "hey this game still exists!" Stop making excuses, I know they aren't professional devs and are working out of their pockets, but it's just a lack of human decency at this point. Nobody asked them to work for free, I would have paid for it. Sorry to be so angry, but at LEAST update us every 6 months. That is the bare minimum. The update doesn't even have to be substantial. Maybe share some artwork or something. But don't just ditch the people who have been giving you free advertising for almost a decade.

    • @hello-mm9sm
      @hello-mm9sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blacktainfalcon7097 free advertising?

    • @hello-mm9sm
      @hello-mm9sm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@blacktainfalcon7097 you might not understand this but its a free game, 'free advertising' means nothing

    • @thomasslone1964
      @thomasslone1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yea im a general asst. retail manager and taught my self ruby python then c over the last 15 years, I wanted to make video games but only things I've ever programed is boring math and statistics sim stuff, I implemented a zip and unzip for. zip in pure ruby script, i took the aes cryptograph to a retardedly convoluted level...... but the only game I've ever actually completed was a bad version of the first green pokemon object data engine

  • @stoneapollyon8313
    @stoneapollyon8313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    i remember seeing this back in 2012, i was only 12 years old at the time. now look at where we are.

  • @Lonewulf321
    @Lonewulf321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Rpg maker MV actually wasn’t released until 2015.
    By then, the new mother 4 website was out and we had the winter 2014 meme
    So it was probably rpg maker xp or vx

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah probably. I think I got bad info along the way. My bad

    • @Lonewulf321
      @Lonewulf321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DaNovaFRFX no worries! It doesn’t matter too much, but just wanted to let you know

    • @phoenixshadow4631
      @phoenixshadow4631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're still wondering the specific RPG Maker they started on was xp. Eventually they realized that wouldn't work so they changed to a different engine, then after that one didn't work they settled on a custom C++ engine.

  • @AnthyLoneExoria
    @AnthyLoneExoria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    I think it's understandable entirely that Oddity hasn't seen an update, given COVID and the time game development just takes. I'd be surprised (if it's not dead) if we hear about them next year at all.

    • @blacktainfalcon7097
      @blacktainfalcon7097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      This game is never coming out

    • @blacktainfalcon7097
      @blacktainfalcon7097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      At this point, even Yandev gives more consistant updates

    • @matthewroyer1561
      @matthewroyer1561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blacktainfalcon7097 it’s just a sweet sweet fantasy baby… 😢

    • @spaceace9103
      @spaceace9103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blacktainfalcon7097 hope this ages poorly but you could be right

    • @joezuru3753
      @joezuru3753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spaceace9103 it aged like wine

  • @MythHead
    @MythHead 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I think one of the main artist said the twitter account will start posting again in a few weeks

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Do you know their @?

    • @TheFleurger
      @TheFleurger 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DaNovaFRFX mcmaxxis. he said it on one of his streams. You can find more info easily on the fan server.

    • @_WariOh
      @_WariOh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      mcmaxxis. it was on a livestream @@DaNovaFRFX

    • @MythHead
      @MythHead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this aged well 😔

  • @justpeachy7812
    @justpeachy7812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video! This fills a void in my heart

  • @simon3628
    @simon3628 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Old But Gold"
    I have faith in you guys, the earthbound legacy is yours!

  • @PopADoseYo
    @PopADoseYo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Excited to watch this video. I stopped following the fan projects a couple years back. Been waiting for a 4th game since I finished Tomatoes Fan Translation back in 2009.
    It's been a long 12 years of waiting, so I've given up lol.

  • @GooTheMighty
    @GooTheMighty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Remember those moles in EarthBound that all claimed to be the 3rd strongest?
    We need more Mother 4s. Like every Mother fan game should just agree to call itself Mother 4.

    • @tsawy6
      @tsawy6 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good bit

  • @OmegaMetroid93
    @OmegaMetroid93 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Been waiting for this since day one. That's 15 years now... I really hope the team get to release the game they worked on for so long. It would mean a lot to me as well. Just thinking about it kinda makes me a bit emotional haha

    • @maximumforce8275
      @maximumforce8275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. Screw you and yiur hopes and dreams. Wait another 15 years then MAAAAAYBE you get a demo

  • @a-ramenartist9734
    @a-ramenartist9734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Im glad its still doing good, I love earthbound and am looking forward to this game

  • @AlexchidFlash
    @AlexchidFlash 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow, I learned so much from this video alone... I had no idea that Undertale was released in only 2-3 years of development

  • @KuroReisho
    @KuroReisho 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If this gets released ever then itoi is gonna have a field day, he said he’s not continuing the mother series cause he wants ANYONE else to pick it up so he could enjoy the series himself or something along the lines
    I don’t remember what he said exactly cause that interview came out way before I even read it but after mother 3

  • @Clutch180
    @Clutch180 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's great to see such passion for a fan-made-game-turned-standalone. I don't know much about the creators and their backgrounds, but I do know that sometimes ambitious art (which this is and it looks incredibly good) sometimes out-strips the work ethic especially with the friction of maybe not knowing how to produce certain aspects of the game which have to be learned on the fly ( or maintaining creative relationships): Whether that be a story that doesn't have a well written ending yet, a lack of human resources that's needed to flesh out incredibly odd, tangented, and fun ideas that's snowballed into something like a gigantic ant, or just passion that's subsisted on the reputation of a great looking work in progress. Maybe it's been a string of personal things in their lives that sap out the happiness of their passion projects, and that type of thing tends to sour works. Maybe they've grown and chased down their careers. Maybe they dont' want to accept money from people just yet, because along with that brings a feeling of obligation to constantly work on the project, which if their passion wains while working on it, will produce a stale game. It seems that this is something they absolutely have wanted to avoid, because I mean LOOK AT the thing. It's Awesome! And you can tell it's been worked on while at their best. Maybe it's a case of that it's THEIR baby, and they love it so much that they're afraid it might change if others work on it. Totally relatable. If this is the case, if the devs are reading this; I hope yall are doing alright and the life is treating everyone well outside of this passion project. IF nothing else, still ... Thank-you for the ride. With all our energy and courage we wish yall the best.

  • @Lucaninae
    @Lucaninae 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    cant wait for winter 2014!!!!!

  • @chocobanned5390
    @chocobanned5390 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I think this is a interesting video so I tried to look at it more from an objective point of view of "How likely is it that this game will actually be completed?" Instead of focusing on the "when" like most people do I want to question the "how" and if it's realistic. To explain what I mean let's make a quick hypothetical with two teams: Team A is a professional team of game devs that take 4.5 years to make a RPG. They have to be consistently working in those 4.5 years to where eventually progress > setbacks. Now given Oddity's past setbacks let's say it takes indie dev Team B around two times this work time, 9 years. Goal is that progress > setbacks. I'm not trying to say that 9 years is a long time, it's asking this:
    Will both of those teams able to maintain their drive/motivation/consistency for that 4.5/9 years and not give up before they're finished?
    The answer is "yes" for Team A because of experience/monetary compensation/smaller amount of time. To be honest, I just find it hard to answer that question yes for the hypothetical Oddity team. People will mention things like "The game has changed lead directions and other members multiple times" or "These other games have also spent a long time in development" but neither of those statements really rebuttal to my argument about whether its possible. It doesn't genuinely question the thing that needs to be questioned, and that's the problem.
    Regarding the stress or fan pressure, I feel it needs to reminded that their use of a subreddit/discord is a personal decision. One thing I immediately noticed about the new Mother 4 is that they don't have a subreddit or discord server. That was a smart decision on their part. Why gather a bunch of fans in one waiting place solely for the purpose of a hypothetical game only to not provide any updates? I feel the Oddity devs should not of joined that subreddit/fan discord and made official updates with how infrequently they post updates. Just a TH-cam channel (and Twitter) are serviceable when progress is this limited.
    I don't know maybe it's just me but I can't even ask "when" since the "how" is so shaky at this point in time.

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This is a great point, and honestly didn’t think about it like that. The oddity team put themselves in the position they are currently in, intentional or not.

  • @L-guy
    @L-guy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    it'll come out when it's ready, and if not, i hope they learned from it. there's no such thing as wasted time. awesome video

    • @Elonyx.studios
      @Elonyx.studios ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Last time I saw a trailer that ended with "Coming out when it's ready" was Cyberpunk 2077...

  • @wompstopm123
    @wompstopm123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    if the original creator left then the project is doomed

  • @Kurisu545
    @Kurisu545 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Development Hell: The Game

  • @fancyman847
    @fancyman847 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God I can't wait these will be a blast and il be amazed when it comes out

  • @buster5661
    @buster5661 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s pulling a silksong

  • @Pringlesman
    @Pringlesman ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nintendo doesn't deserve Mother fans.

  • @pearljaime2
    @pearljaime2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is almost 2 years old now.

  • @deatsbybre7162
    @deatsbybre7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Game development is a lot more complicated than “keep programming until it’s done”. I understand that now.

    • @maximumforce8275
      @maximumforce8275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You do realize a lot of it is just because tgey keep going back to "revise" right?

  • @AdventureAttitude
    @AdventureAttitude ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching this again since there is no update

  • @jimmynutron407
    @jimmynutron407 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3 years later on and damn still no updates

  • @IncompleteChimera
    @IncompleteChimera 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    you NEED to play jimmy and the pulsating mass and do a video on it. seriously, it's utterly depressing hearing all these people who are stuck waiting for a proper mother 4 equivalent to finally finish development when jimmy's been out for a few years now. it's an absolutely amazing game that's totally flown under people's radars.

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve never heard of it actually! Immediately added it to my wishlist. I’ll check it out for sure!

    • @lolita_cat
      @lolita_cat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i'm personally just not a huge fan of most of the "quirky inspired-by-earthbound" rpg maker games out there, pulsating mass included

    • @yoyhue1678
      @yoyhue1678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lolita_cat that's not what Jimmy is at all, and you know it

    • @flintfrommother3gaming
      @flintfrommother3gaming ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@lolita_cat Me when I ask examples of "quirky-earthbound-like-RPGs":

  • @aidandrotzur6006
    @aidandrotzur6006 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mother 3 took ten years to release Oddity was announced 15 years ago
    However the original release date was 7 years ago
    If the game doesn't release in the next 4 years I'm giving up on it

  • @ricardoconsort2260
    @ricardoconsort2260 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm pretty sure we'll get mother 64 before oddity

  • @doodlehobbo8697
    @doodlehobbo8697 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Speaking of Omori and Undertale. Did you guys forgot Lisa the Painful?, where it was made with RPG maker and also have small development.

  • @lancemartinez1130
    @lancemartinez1130 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I need an ex-dev to come out and reveal what the fuck was happening that the game still isn't anywhere near completion

  • @lexzeyfercronus
    @lexzeyfercronus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They started in 2008,its been 15 YEARS and according to their discord,two devs jumped ship and whoever remained hasnt done anything (also,it seems some one stole assets),they lacked direction and a clear line of command to get things done,so i guess its safe to assume it will never be finished,just another failure,which sucks,for some reason teams of fans trying to make a fan game always fail and lonely devs take ages and have 50/50 chance of actually releasing their creation,but when they do we get gems like undertale.
    And the other fan game,i just checked and it seems dead too,im sad to say it but i doubt we will ever get a mother 4 in any way shape or form,its like a curse.

    • @blacktainfalcon7097
      @blacktainfalcon7097 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      the other mother 4 just had an update on Twitter in July so definitely not dead

  • @8bitmatri
    @8bitmatri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is actually a pretty good video! The editing is well done, though i feel as though you might slur your words out a bit if that makes sense, other than that it's again pretty good!

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! I noticed that a bit with the recording too. It’s mostly just cuz it’s been a while since I’ve made a video like this. Just gotta get used to it again

    • @8bitmatri
      @8bitmatri 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DaNovaFRFX fair enough lol

    • @ZynetESLD
      @ZynetESLD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldnt mind if they actually did a full release on systems like the switch, pc and both high end consoles. So, people can choose to get it for free online, or if they wanted to they could support the devs by buying the game itself. That would honestly be such a heartwarming story, where the fans actually them choose to give to the team. Could become another FFXIV.

  • @boomymike6512
    @boomymike6512 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really wished this rebrand of mother 4 to oddity could give devs an oportunity to publish it not only on pc for free, it could also reach to other platforms to give a bigger impact.

  • @SuperGalaxy
    @SuperGalaxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it so funny and fascinating at the same time that their are two games both of them fan games that are technically mother 4.

  • @justrobYT
    @justrobYT ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Winter 2014.
    Frankly at this point I'm more interested in a behind the scenes look at how this project has been managed than the game itself.

    • @lerp5555
      @lerp5555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Reworded version of one of the top comments. Ya love to see it

  • @AngelCopout
    @AngelCopout 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have been waiting since the game was 2 years into development. I remember I was in high-school when they dropped the release window for winter and summer. God.... I don't know if I can hold on much longer.

  • @daehan8227
    @daehan8227 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Honestly? Maybe a pep talk from Shegesato Itoi would boost the team's moral and spirits. Though it's a known fact that Mr. Itoi stated that he wouldn't mind seeing a Mother 4 in the future from fans or anyone

  • @namey6297
    @namey6297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    We really shouldn't discourage the creator by putting out leaks, we should also consider the fact that people don't want to get spoiled

    • @maximumforce8275
      @maximumforce8275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      For a game they'll never live to see?

  • @kami4242
    @kami4242 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For years I said that they should rebrand their game and I'm glad they did. Not only for copyright purposes but so they can actually sell it. I would gladly pay for something like this. It should be sold on the Switch eshop, PSN, and Steam. It deserves more attention than what a free fan game would normally get

  • @ThomasCapella
    @ThomasCapella 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this game comes out. I haven't finished any of the Mother games but from what little I've played of them, and what I know about them, I love the Mother series and I think they're beautiful works of art. There are a lot of great RPGs that have come out because of Mother and have left a huge impact and I hope one day we can say the same about Oddity. I've been following this project since it was first announced so it'd be great to one day finally see it in all its greatness.

    • @Alex-gg9ht
      @Alex-gg9ht 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have very little hope

  • @Mythic_Fire
    @Mythic_Fire 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I feel like with the rebrand, they could start up some kind of kickstarter and/or maybe sell it. I do admire them making something so wonderful and ambitious for free but I honestly wouldn't mind paying for it and supporting the development. If it helps the team make the process smoother and motivate them, it would be worth considering imo.

    • @brya9681
      @brya9681 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You seem to be under the impression this game is real and not abandonedware

    • @Mythic_Fire
      @Mythic_Fire 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ⁠@@brya9681hmm being realistic it won’t come out, at least not at the pace it’s being worked at anytime soon.
      but I do think that if it is true that the project is ongoing like people are saying, it would be good to step back and revitalize it with a different approach.
      my attitude is, if it comes out cool, if not, sad but it happens… I suppose we can’t truly know what’s going on with the lack of communication so i will not have expectations.

  • @TheUnderNerd
    @TheUnderNerd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fucking love the Mother series, and hearing about this now and how they've gone radio silent makes me a bit worried. I really hope we get something soon. I don't care if they make a Kickstarter, I'll give them whatever I can to help them work on it. I want the final product so bad.

  • @ethanpeacock63
    @ethanpeacock63 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oddity is gonna be something new to all Mother series fans when it comes out, so let's give it the time it needs to be perfect.

  • @kennethrivera6237
    @kennethrivera6237 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winter 2024 is gonna be a grand old time

  • @bilis2866
    @bilis2866 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the Nintendo taking down fan games paranoia is ridiculous, there are thousands of fan games/ romhacks out there, old and new, that are just fine.
    also, i believe they do own mother, they just respect Itoi

  • @yookeemookee
    @yookeemookee ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't care about it anymore. I've waited for it for so long, but I've discovered and played countless other indie games that, in my opinion, are much better than what Oddity was originally offering when it was still known as Mother 4. And what makes it sad is how a lot of them were made solely by one person. Toby Fox made Undertale by himself, and it's arguably one of the most popular indie videogames ever created. Oddity's apparently being made by a whole team, and they've working on it for nearly a decade and it's still not out.
    And honestly, while I had incredibly high hopes for it when I first heard about it, and I do like how it's improved graphics- and music-wise... If it isn't released by at least the end of this year, then it's never going to be released, ever.

    • @buster5661
      @buster5661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All I wanted was a damn demo

  • @Naftoreiclag
    @Naftoreiclag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    underrated channel

  • @IronManx70
    @IronManx70 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly, I think Oddity shedding the Mother tag was a good thing. I think the Mother trilogy is good as it is with Mother 3's ending, it doesn't need a 4th. And I always felt Mother 3 having Andonuts and Mr Saturn felt shoehorned, so whatever EB references that were going to appear in Oddity won't feel forced

    • @yookeemookee
      @yookeemookee ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe Dr. Andonuts and the Mr. Saturns are in it due to Porky stealing them from the time period _EarthBound_ took place in and bringing them to the Nowhere Islands.

  • @worldsboss
    @worldsboss ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I desperately hope that Oddity comes out someday. It has such insane potential!

  • @EqualityEarth
    @EqualityEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still miss that subtitle (“Under the Moon”)

  • @vitodtin9304
    @vitodtin9304 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    look after so many years of radio silent from the devs I just gonna assume oddity/mother 4 is simply a dead project. but that other mother game look promising tho

  • @MystaryTV
    @MystaryTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I NEED THIS GAME! 😩

  • @thedrewdog
    @thedrewdog 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So I'm hearing they cancelled it? What a crock, I know Shane Mesa created an awesome unused soundtrack when it was still "Mother 4".

    • @VOXArts
      @VOXArts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Its not cancelled, People are still saying that but is actually ongoing and it still getting working on, just developers are not saying anything because of some stuff happening like the pressure from part of the Fans and that stuff

    • @VOXArts
      @VOXArts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Developers are still making it, and they said they do In a oddity server (yes theres are a server about the game)
      Also sorry if my English is not that good

    • @MrCrazywrench
      @MrCrazywrench 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@VOXArtsIf they’re still making it, then they should put out a vertical slice.

  • @Odelayderado
    @Odelayderado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never been more impatient about a game coming out

  • @vinceisproducing2002
    @vinceisproducing2002 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When this game comes out and we get to learn more about the creation of it think it'll be one of the most legendary fan game development stories in gaming.

    • @vinceisproducing2002
      @vinceisproducing2002 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it's good.

    • @vinceisproducing2002
      @vinceisproducing2002 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clicking off the vid now, fucking lame mentioning leaks bro.

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a video about what happened to oddity. Leaks happened.

    • @vinceisproducing2002
      @vinceisproducing2002 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaNovaFRFX My bad, I'm really spoiler sensitive so the second I hear the word leak I click off stuff. I just assumed I'd get spoilers to some degree, and the gta6 things been on my mind so I gotba little charged. Great video.

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vinceisproducing2002 All good! I don’t remember if I mention it in the video but from what the devs have mentioned of the leaks, basically whatever plot stuff is out there is so out of date that it doesn’t spoil the current/final game.

  • @wizdomtrust1596
    @wizdomtrust1596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like any multi-faceted project you need unselfish, talented, unbiased, unburdened, people equally passionate about the same goal.
    This is hard in any realm, but in my experience I have found that many folks in the gaming community have issues with the first and third of those parameters. This is frustrating when one considers how talented, unburdened, and passionate many of these people are.

  • @hyperghost99
    @hyperghost99 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hopefully this project doesn't die. Ive gave up on mine due to not having much time, plus went through 2 hard drive crashes. I did upload my progress in here though. It was inspired both final fantasy 7 & phantasy star 4.

    • @buster5661
      @buster5661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's dead

    • @joezuru3753
      @joezuru3753 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      it is dead

    • @AlphonsoGames
      @AlphonsoGames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rip@@joezuru3753

  • @aomcastor2
    @aomcastor2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro they can release Oddity on Steam with a 20 or 30 dollars price tag and I don't think anybody would complain.

    • @baders3274
      @baders3274 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want it on Nintendo Switch

    • @timroehm1728
      @timroehm1728 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@baders3274Lol @ this guy😆

  • @diamondmetal3062
    @diamondmetal3062 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    See, I’m hopeful this game is coming out at some point and it’s not gonna be another DNF or Yandere Simulator. This game is both a) a passion project, this is something the devs want to make and b) not profitable to the devs for it to remain in development, cuz I don’t know much they get (if anything) from donations.

    • @seant1326
      @seant1326 ปีที่แล้ว

      DNF?

    • @GrimDim
      @GrimDim ปีที่แล้ว

      What the hell is a DNF?

    • @Hummingb1rd
      @Hummingb1rd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seant1326 donut nope fall?

    • @Hummingb1rd
      @Hummingb1rd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrimDim declined night flower?

    • @psychoriot866
      @psychoriot866 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrimDim "Did not Finished"

  • @rnac5438
    @rnac5438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    crazy that stardew valley, omori, lisa and deltarune were all released way before oddity/m4 has been released

  • @RamblingGreek
    @RamblingGreek 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very very wise words at 11:00 of this video

  • @ScutoidStudios
    @ScutoidStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the game has gone longer than this without an update so i still have hope. there's no use not having hope, right?

  • @AdvancedSoul
    @AdvancedSoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I will cry manly tears when oddity is finally released to the public

    • @gokuhawks14
      @gokuhawks14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @ advancedSoul It's dead. It's Never going to come out.

  • @louieishehe3419
    @louieishehe3419 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where do I find this Oddity fan discord?

  • @warrenorbe7329
    @warrenorbe7329 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was fine as long as it release next year.
    But if they plan to update it, could it be better to have 5 present characters until the end of the game, and also add one other lady character so that Meryl could not be the only lady in the team. So it would have 6 characters with only one temporary joined the team.

  • @Wtashifuriwabishunptawagot1977
    @Wtashifuriwabishunptawagot1977 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    They canceled it D':

    • @foxycraft9436
      @foxycraft9436 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wait, what happened?

    • @EnchantedSmellyWolf
      @EnchantedSmellyWolf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Okay. I can finally rest.

    • @krodmandoon3479
      @krodmandoon3479 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What a surpriiiiise.

    • @TheBoyWhoCriedTiredness80
      @TheBoyWhoCriedTiredness80 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are actually working on it in secret. From what I heard

    • @Moony_7860
      @Moony_7860 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where?

  • @pathetic_girl
    @pathetic_girl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If I had a nickel for every time someone said fustrating, I would have 2 nickels, which isnt a lot but its kinda weird it happened twice.

  • @neohedge1552
    @neohedge1552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This video is still relevant sadly 😢

  • @HidiyusBeest
    @HidiyusBeest ปีที่แล้ว

    Between this and Tears of Magic, I’m on board

  • @speedway1345
    @speedway1345 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't worry! It'll come in Winter, 2014

  • @frogmonger6916
    @frogmonger6916 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    can't wait for winter 2014

  • @hydreigonLol
    @hydreigonLol 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is sad but well that's the thing with fan games based on a franchise, especially a franchise from Nintendo, well known for their cease and desists.
    Perhaps they were really trying to release a game based on Mother and after the rebranding to Oddity they started losing interest in it because having to refactor code and redesing assets to remove Mother references is always tiring to any developer / artist. O simple life happens and now they have to work for a living or now they have a family.
    These days I think the best approach is to release a game on its own as a spiritual successor / influenced like Toby Fox did with Undertale instead of making a fan game, specially one from Nintendo, so you can make a kickstarter and sell the game and even start a franchise.

  • @agentblade04
    @agentblade04 ปีที่แล้ว

    Idk if it was just fan art or whatever but someone I follow posted Oddity fan art recently

  • @Benjawin6671
    @Benjawin6671 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes my favorite TH-cam channel "Press Continue to Start"

    • @DaNovaFRFX
      @DaNovaFRFX  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video has been out for 8 months i cant believe it took this long for someone to notice that mistake 😭

  • @SAClassHunterZero
    @SAClassHunterZero ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't think I'll ever understand a PRE-EMPTIVE re-brand when there were no C&D threats in sight. Sorry, but, putting all my chips on the new Mother 4 now. Itoi said he wanted the fans to make the next one, and someone's gotta do it.

  • @arthurfonseca4291
    @arthurfonseca4291 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to download the game? Or know the current status of the game?

  • @Skypatroller_BenCD
    @Skypatroller_BenCD ปีที่แล้ว

    01:11 actually there's 3 of them cause there's Earthbound 3 VX made before EarthbO̥und 3 that's became Oddity and it was also canceled before (also the creator of Earthbound III works for Oddity)

  • @STICKGUYMB
    @STICKGUYMB ปีที่แล้ว

    Uuugh. I Gotta play dis again

  • @nbshftr
    @nbshftr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    didnt everyone leading the project leave? is it just the devs now?

    • @ians_parks
      @ians_parks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pastel, the lead dev, as far as I'm aware simply took a social media break.

  • @FloridusMan
    @FloridusMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 7dogmin a part of this?

  • @TymeTikTok
    @TymeTikTok 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oddity started in rpgmakerxp, mv came out in 2015

  • @TallTapper
    @TallTapper 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this is the part with the car

  • @online1041
    @online1041 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This video came out two years ago dog what the fuck

    • @psiwall5998
      @psiwall5998 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bro I was finishing middle school when I heard about this game. It's now been 4 years since highschool.

  • @jayfromd.r.g.2644
    @jayfromd.r.g.2644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bruh don't diss RPG maker MV. It's a good engine for making RPGs, and there are a lot of good games made in it, it's just overshadowed by the amount of garbage released by noob developers who have no clue what they're doing.
    That aside, great video, I've been curious about the game's status for awhile. hopefully it'll release. . . eventually.

  • @gustavogodoy9626
    @gustavogodoy9626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly love the music, details and sprites, such a shame hope for the project seems to have died out after a decade of wait