saying the fan translation for this game is "very good" is totally underselling it. it's absolutely phenomenal, one of the greatest fan efforts ever made. I would have gladly paid full price for it.
I think the biggest factor working against it is the fact it's on the GBA. Mother 1 was already designed to be played on a television. By the time they uprez the entire game to make it look presentable they'll probably have sunk more money into it than they'll make. The only reason Nintendo ignores these franchises for years or even decades at a time is because they never made a lot of money to begin with.
@@mariokarter13 also the fact that some of the subjects push it from being published. the very outdated and terrible representation of trans with the mygipsies is one that would make nintendo look bad, while other things like death being such a heavy theme push it even further. and because of this, i wonder if it even did get localized, would it be the same story, or would they change it too much?
@@ryelo5448 Yeah, I get the intention Itoi had with the Magypsies, but that was back in 2006 and society has changed a lot since then. I didn't find them offensive, but I understand why some people would find them offensive (especially in sites like Twitter...) Regarding other themes like death and the TaneTane drug trip... well, just give it a T rating. Earthbound Beginnings got a T Rating when it was released on the Wii U (and that is most likely because of a reference to underage drinking)
I would like to appreciate how Nerrel puts subtitles in his vids. As someone who sometimes has a hard time hearing, I greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
agreed. not only for hearing for disabilities, but for other language speakers as well! as someone who doesnt speak english for a first language im sometimes uncertain if i heard correctly, so i like having subtitles to assure the words spoken.
@Gabriel Howell It's a long discontinued "Skyrunner" poster I purchased once upon a time on Fangamer! Although you can't find the poster anymore, you can still purchase the wonderful Mother 3 Handbook, along with other lovingly crafted merchandise made by skillful artists!
The only boss that kicked my ass hard was the Gorilla boss. Which had a damage weakness of lightning, so I used it, but did not realize until like 10 deaths later that hitting it with lightning put the boss into a berserk hard-mode pretty much, which I thought was from a damage threshold or something, lol.
@@CaptmagiKono The hardest ones for me were the barrier people, miracle Fassad, and Lord Passion. But he's so right that the game responds incredibly well to experimentation. Learning to use your item bitches is super important
@@CaptmagiKono The goddamn Steel Mechorilla. Definitely one of, if not THE hardest bosses in the game. The New Killer Cyborg isn't even as scary as that thing lol
@@CaptmagiKono I remember that Gorilla, i took another way and found it while only having Lucas and Boney (I don't remember about Duster) but i ended memorizing the 16 hit combo in that battle T.T Still easier than barrier trio IMO
I just love the irony Nerrel points out here: that if Nintendo really believed that emulation was the devil and people just want to not pay for games, why does everyone want an official Mother 3 release at all? Check-and-mate-and-RELEASEMOTHER3NINTENDO
@Videodromed i thought "removing content to retain control over intellectual property" was a myth or obsolete? i'm pretty sure i read or heard somewhere that their actions of banning items are completely redundant also mother 4 didn't receive a cease and desist, instead, the mother 4 team rebranded it to oddity because of fears of a cease of desist
Mother 3's fandom in a way surpasses Half-Life 3's, because fans already get to play it and yet still demanding for an official release because they genuinely want the public to experience this special little thing.
If you look in the subtitles it says "boogie" instead. I didn't wanna point it out and be *that guy* but if I didn't then someone else would have. Can't have that.
My favorite thing about Mother 3 that wasn't mentioned in the video: the rhythm-based battle system is used for musical jokes. A couple hours into the game, once the player has figured out how to chain attacks by following the beat, battle themes start speeding up or slowing down, switching time signatures, or abruptly cutting to dumb little musical interludes, disrupting your hits until you learn the songs and start planning around them. It's amazing and made me laugh out loud several times.
The fan translation is far better than anything we would probably get from a treehouse-helmed translation nowadays. It's my favorite game of all time, and I think it's gotten to have a decent life online despite never getting an officially-localized physical release, just because of the work Clyde and his team did.
why don't they just fucking!!!! buy the fan translation I know it would go against their anti-emulation principles but for god's sake. just change and grow
@@ff-qf1th They can't even make a functional port of OOT without there being all-new major graphical bugs, and they still have the guts to be charging 40$+ for it. Any version of mother 3 they released would be bastardized. Emulation is the Nintendo fan's savior. Fans do everything related to it so much better than nintendo itself, it's pathetic. This is what happens when you can't retain the workers that know how to do these types of jobs. Nintendo lost the guy that made their emulated ports, now they are hopelessly bad at it.
You know, after methodically researching all material about this series I can find for the past 15 years, somehow I'm still able to be surprised. The inference on the map layouts is new to me, and makes sense.
Mother 3 is one of the all-time greats. It inspired some truly excellent games, but none of them quite managed to capture its range or resonance; I'm still thinking about it years later.
As someone who hated Mother 1 and Earthbound I was an idiot and slept on Mother 3 only to play it in 2014 and it became one of my favorite games of all time
The line, "Either way, the game would certainly generate discussions in today's climate, and they aren't discussions Nintendo likely wants to have," had me crying because literally the whole point of the game is to generate discussions...
Thank you. I was rather confused when in this video the irreconcilable nature of the game's core themes with Western Neoliberalism was not mentioned even as part of the picture... which it undeniably must have been from Nintendo's perspective, especially considering when the game was originally released: right in the heart of the Cheney administration.
Jed Grahek I mean that was because of Itoi’s writing and creative direction. Modern Nintendo’s corporate leadership (very different from the creative sector that actually developed the game) clearly doesn’t want to touch any of Mother 3’s potentially controversial themes and subject matter with a ten foot pole.
considering they added fe1 english translation to that list, i could believe that. just constantly releasing limited time localisations of games people want so that when it hits the week before, they're making millions a day for a little while.
@@NeutralL12 That's a scarily good point though lol They've been pretty low quality lately. Even Wii U era was better than most of this year's decisions
I remember that video I saw of someone finding a Dr. Andonuts door at an E3 event and asking one of the workers what it meant and he was just like "it's not really anything" lol damn
I wanna thank the Mother/Earthbound series for giving us great Earthbound-Like games which were inspired by Earthbound/Mother and these great and wonderful games are Citizens Of Earth, Undertale, and LISA The Painful I'm really happy and proud to play them all from beginning to end hopefully in the future people and fans will finally get Mother 3 or Earthbound 3.
@@marty1076 Yeah. I am European so I was lucky enough to grow up with it. But it's a tragedy it wasn't released in USA. Also, no company cares for that game. There was never any re release. The only way to play that master piece is to buy an expensive retro cardridge, that might stop functioning in the future, or to download an illegal rom.
@@derpoltergeist8265 I played it in ROM form because there would be no way for me to do so otherwise. Getting a reproduction cartridge shipped to anywhere in Latin America would be incredibly expensive.
I'm so pleased by how you addressed the magypsies. A lot of online conversations act like theyre too "edgy" for a western audience, as if there's no nuance to their portrayal, and that really pisses me off. Just in general I feel like there are so few good videos about mother 3 and this one made me so happy :)
Playing Mother 3 ended a pretty long spell of apathy for me; if it can make an emotionless sack like me feel something, I feel like releasing the game could make a lot of other people happy.
Mother 3 is my favorite game ever and honestly I don’t really care if Nintendo made a official localization because they would probably censor and ruin some stuff in it and you can just play the fan translation which is still open
@@brya9681it’s less about actually playing the game and moreso the game getting the western release and recognition that it deserves. Anyone who actually wants to play mother 3 would’ve already played it by now, fans just want Nintendo to acknowledge that their favorite game exists.
I've known people who are so dedicated to an anti- emulation stance, it gets sad when they say they'll wait for the official release. Unless they change that stance or make exception, it's always going to be an unhappy ending for them. :(
@@RetroPixelLizard it was pretty cheap so I'd say it was okay, I probably payed about the amount of work it took to manually put a game onto a cartridge. Its abandonware, and the fan translation is out for free, so I dont really care
@@RetroPixelLizard actually I don't think of it that way. Finding a cart with the English translation is actually pretty cheap, and you are really only paying for the labor cost and the cartridge shell itself, and not the rom.
@@tenleesmaindancer1819 If you have a Ds lite that’s able to play GB games, you can buy the fan translation of Mother 3 online or you can play an emulation if it on an emulator website
As someone who doesn't even like EarthBound or RPGs that much, I used to think the desperation for Mother 3 to get localized was overexaggerated. When I tried the English patched ROM on my 3DS, however, I was blown away - It's easily the best traditional RPG I've ever played.
I'm gonna say it. I really think there's no reason to want an official localization at this point. The fan translation is frankly better than anything Nintendo of America could give us, and it can be played easily by anyone with even a phone. Even if you want to play it on official hardware, patched cartridges exist. As someone with massive love in my heart for this game, I don't give a damn if Nintendo ever touches it.
It is nice to be able to play the translation on the system the game was originally intended for, but I'd love for it to get a translation just to see how happy everyone would be and to introduce such a masterpiece to a wider audience. If ever there was a console to do that it would be the Switch
Here's the thing though, the game should be accessible to everyone. Getting a fan translated rom might be easy for you or me but for the average person it might be daunting and an official release would be the first time they get to experience this game
@@NCozy You seem to think the average person is a drooling moron. You can google "Mother 3 translated rom" and quickly find a pre-patched one. And then downloading and setting up a GBA emulator is incredibly simple and user-friendly. The game IS accessible to everyone.
After seeing this video, I finally began playing and beat Mother 3 over a couple months on my GBA. There is so much love and attention to detail in this game that I completely understand why it has developed the reputation it has. It is so much more fun and accessible than Earthbound, in my opinion. The ending was very sad and actually made me tear up as I have such a close relationship with my mother and brother. If you've been on the fence, sit down with the game and play it when you have time, as I did with a busy schedule, and you will absolutely adore it.
That's the sad part about all this, if Nintendo eventually does release their own translation, it'll become the mainstream one, but it will undeniably be inferior to the one we've got now. Either people will get pissed that Nintendo's translation sucks, or the original translation gets lost to time, ya can't really decide if you want Mother 3 to be realistically released of if people just wish the patch was how the game would release all those years ago.
What sold me on the fan translation was a simple little thing. The healing springs have haikus. Whenever the translations add an extra syllable, it will say so at the end. This actually followed the original gam which would note extra syllables. He kept that part in but then only added it when the English version would have them. A wonderful little change which took and applied context in both languages while translating meaning :)
If it weren't for Chuggaaconroy's playthrough of Mother 3 (and EarthBound in general), I possibly would have never gotten into the game. I hope someday Nintendo rereleases it, or just makes a full-on remake FFVII style.
“A Story as old as time” When you don’t officially release a game so you don’t get bad press but let it be played on an emulator to avoid controversy. The end
4:04 Some HD recreations actually used the source samples found in the Roland Sound Canvas series of synths. Dunno if that's your thing, but I think it would be interesting if you talked about the instruments and modules used in video game music. Sometimes it can be useful for recreation and preservation purposes to know the source of the assets found in video games, including music.
@3:38 One can mod a GBA to remove most of the Hissing and board artifacts for the audio output. Even though it is competing for CPU power, the CPU itself isn't the primary source for most noise. You'll have to clean the audio potentiometer out, polish the power switch, and add capacitors/recap the board where the stock capacitance is at its limit. You can find guides on how to do this through google, I bulk ordered a bunch of capacitors off of digikey and have cleaned up 6 boards myself. People sell kits to fix this, but they are overpriced. Just find the right size capacitors from any electronic supplier and test the board after each swap/addition. I actually use the sound player in Mother 3 to test the GBA's that i've done this mod on, which is why I feel I should leave this comment. The game deserves to be heard with the noise removed while playing on the original system.
Finally got around to playing this in January. One of the best games I’ve ever played. Drastically exceeded my expectations. Like playing a well written novel. Play it if you haven’t yet
I love the Magypsies. If they were real, I'd love to hang out with them. Not once did I think they were characters to laugh AT. They're people to laugh WITH. To have fun with, to enjoy their company. No two magypsies are the same. And their flamboyance isn't something to look down upon. It gives them personality, it makes them unique, it makes them just fun characters. There's nothing wrong with reveling in your flamboyance.
@@TempestDacine Yeah, sometimes people should take a step back and think about why they're upset about the things they're upset about. The problem is not portraying, for example, drag queens as flamboyant. The problem is using it as a form of ridicule. Which, in this case, does not apply.
They're great and some of my favorite characters in the game, but I definitely feel they're the reason we won't see an official release in the West. If the initial reluctance was due to poor sales predictions, I believe that issue is gone. Mother has a pretty decent sized following nowadays. Nintendo wouldn't even have to translate it at this point!
The main reason it hasnt been ported is because of copyright issues with the songs in the game because of all the "references" it makes to other artists works which are fine legally in japan but would get nintendo themselves copyright striked in america. There is a great video by Moon Channel explaining some of this.
Actually, I kind of disagree with the end of the video. I don't want Nintendo to release it, and I don't a "legitimate" version of the game. There is no way on earth Nintendo is going to create a better or more accurate translation than the fan patch, and I'd rather them not release an official version, because I'd rather people not play what's almost certainly going to be an inferior experience.
I finally got around to playing this game. Such a masterpiece. The fan translation would probably be better than anything Nintendo will do with the game
9:14 It's VERY worth mentioning that the "heartbeat" is usually synchronous with the rhythm of each battle theme and can mostly be guessed, which is why some themes sound wonky or randomly speed up and slow down - it's to throw you off and make the battle harder. Not everyone has a sense of rhythm though, which is why the game works perfectly without it (on my first playthrough using a GameFAQ walkthrough before the fan translation came out, I didn't even know this system existed lol.) Anyway, this is a surprising review to come out but I'm happy all the same. Besides the fact that this is a short and sweet presentation of the game, it's also a rational and understandable explanation as to why Nintendo is very unlikely to ever bring it out now. Also, any chance I can get to listen to your permanently annoyed-sounding voice, I will gladly take.
I actually got to know Earthbound from Smash because I didn't have many consoles as a kid. Glad that I finished Earthbound and Mother 3. One of the best games ever.
You can actually read the letter/email mentioned at 13:26 here: earthboundcentral.com/2012/01/the-mother-3-e-mail The team was able to figure out (based on the mail header info) that it likely originated from Japan!
5:12 "It's because you skip through all the dialogues." is what I usually say to my 8yrold cousin (which I introduced to gaming) whenever he gets stucked in a game and asks for help. Talk to every NPC's, break every possible objects are some of the things I encouraged him.
thank you for the subtitles, I am from India and it really helps me focus more on the quality content you make. Now go make new textures for Tinkle in MM you beautiful bastard.
12:01 "There's enough room for interpretation that I've seen [the Magypsies] described as both transphobic and trans-positive. Either way, the game would certainly generate discussions in today's climate, and they aren't discussions Nintendo likely wants to have." Which is a shame, because this is exactly the kind of controversy that is actually valuable to have from a cultural standpoint. When most people talk about "controversy" it's just a shorthand for "this work contains bigoted storytelling in some fashion." But controversy that's actually valuable generates discussions. A work isn't the *end* of the discussion, it's the beginning. And in a work like this, I feel like the discussion is one that would probably be worth having. Maybe the moment has passed. Maybe there are better conversations to be had now. This is a game that was written by an older, cisgendered, probably heterosexual Japanese man in the 90s and that came out in the mid-00s. Hell, at the time of Mother 3's release, I know that I myself held transphobic and generally homophobic beliefs, probably worse than whatever Itoi believed then. Maybe it's not helpful to go that far back? But at the same time, it was written with the intention of positivity. So having an honest discussion about the things it did well *in addition to its shortcomings* is good, especially if we remember the historical cultural context. And, frankly, I feel like most people who are into the MOTHER franchise understand that. People who play these games tend to want to think about them and talk about them in depth. It really is a shame if this is the reason Nintendo is shying away from an official release. I understand not wanting to offend or harm anyone. The more cynical part of me also understands not wanting to make decisions that will generate bad PR or hurt revenue. But I feel like there's a lot of value to be lost by *not* releasing it. And I think that, on the whole, it would be more beneficial than detrimental. And aside from that... The game is such a masterpiece that it kind of hurts to not see Nintendo give it an official release. I want to support the creators in some small way. I want this to be a part of Nintendo's pantheon that they share with pride. I love the fan translation, and honestly I'm unconvinced Nintendo could do a better job themselves. But I still want to see them try.
I bought the SNES Classic just to play earthbound after watching an AVGN episode on the subject. I must say that this was one of the most wholesome and psychedelic game I've ever played.
This game is an actual paradox, at least from Nintendo's perspective. Releasing the fan translation word for word, as mentioned in the video, could prove problematic, but any major (possibly even minor) changes to the translation that could hinder said problems would likley cause outrage online from the fandom. The easy solution is to just not release it, but what would that say about Nintendo? I honestly think that their safest bet would be to retranslate it themselves, but damn. Lord knows we all think the direct translation would be preferable. All in all, I really liked this video, and await Nintendo's action on their enigma, if they choose to take action at all
Just fyi, no translation is "word for word" or direct. The fan translation team had to make a lot of decisions, even if they wanted it to be as loyal as they could.
@@fernandobanda5734 Yeah, even though they tried to be as faithful as they could to the original script, it wasn't a "literal" translation. Even then, they had to make several changes since there's a lot of untranslatable japanese wordplay in this game, and also to keep consistency with the localized version of Mother 2, EarthBound.
@@inendlesspain4724 Agreed, the best translation is not a literal translation, but a faithful recreation of the original message presented in a local format and language-context.
For some reason everything Mother 3 always touches me deeply. It's a great, emotional game. The fans seem so dead set to have the game finally in an official way. It's a rare case of development hell turning out great.... There is so much right with this Game. It doesn't deserve to be one of the "lesser known" games. It deserves more.
Mother 3 is my favorite game. One day I want to make a 100 hour long insanely long kojima dense diatribe about every single detail in the game. There is nothing I could possibly say to describe how much I love this game. I think I'll watch basically any video on it. I've played the game quite a few times but I love it so much I make each playthrough mean something. There are only a few games that resonate with me in every aspect as much as that game. It has influenced the way I view video games, art, even myself. That being said, I have made peace with Mother 3 not getting an official release. I can play it on a multitude of systems with a processor. The fan translation is basically perfect. Nintendo would cut out some stuff. Just like the video said. Seeing the community of fans of the series make fan games and games inspired by it have left my Mother 3 shaped hole filled somewhat. Playing Mother 3 with Joycon Drift doesn't sound like an amazing thing anyway, I guess. All of my hopes for it having an official release have been washed away year by year. I don't need it anymore. I've moved on. In all honesty, Nintendo is only hurting themselves by not releasing it themselves officially. They're missing out on all of the Mother money. Itoi said he's not making a Mother 4 or anything so they don't need to do the "sell to gauge interest" bullshit, anyway. The only reason I would say they should sell it officially that benefits me (that sounds selfish I know) is that it would help making my friends play my favorite game a bit easier. I would love to share that experience more, yes. But when that console dies...what then? I guess we just go back to the emulators until the next release of it? Games can't be permanent obviously. Mother 3 is my favorite game but I am more realistic now. It won't give me everything I wanted like I thought it would when I was younger. It will just be another way for me to play my favorite game. Just like lets say the Netflix release of Evangelion. PS: I don't mind the GBA's Noise in this particular game. It adds something to me. Those clean midi versions feel like they're missing something. But I am a Noise Rock fan so take that as you will.
the only reason i want them to release it officially is because it would reach a broader audience. i think we all want it released officially because we want the game to get the recognition it truly and obviously deserves, and in the state it's in, it feels like nintendo kicked the game to the curb and let it rot.
As a mother fan, I prefer that they never release an "official" translation as it won't be as good as the fan translation and probably horribly censored...
@@ariakhalaji4676 undertale made you cry? i loved the game, played pacifist/neutral/genocide and i never even got close to getting that emotional. mother 3 did make me cry tho, and i'm a grown ass man!!
idgaf there's no official translation to be honest, no one on Earth knows how to translate a Mother game better than Tomato. I'm fine with NOT giving Nintendo my money, actually, they're a pretty shitty company.
oh hey its the funny sonic man also def on the same boat i beat the translation unless nintendo makes some beautiful 3d remaster im not giving them my money for it lol
Times have changed and I understand Nintendo is a family-friendly company and this game is old enough it'd be weird to release but Nintendo now has mature titles on the eShop and could quietly release the game on Switch Online.
Ftm here, It feels like everyone expects/wants us to be offended by things as some sort of cheap joke that everyone can rehash and use to actually offend us. Like the whole thing about mtf's being rapists or that the high suicide rate is funny. Trans people don't care about things other people do, everyone else just seems to care about what trans people do. End of psa. Mother 3 is a masterpiece btw k thx
Sorry if I'm like the billionth person to tell you this at this point but Moon Channel did a video recently on why this game won't be localized - its because of the change to US copyright about use of Music. You can thank Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines for that
13:57 Would be nice if Terranigma got an official US release. One of those games that deserves recognition, as much as something like Mother 3. I mean we already got the previous games that Terranigma succeeded, Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia, why not Terranigma someday?
What I’d do in Nintendo’s position is release the game as is, then slap on a giant ass red screen every time you boot up the game saying “This game was made for a different audience a long time ago, and some of the concepts and ideas present in the story may not reflect our current views, and may not be for everyone.”
The Nintendo of nowdays would translate and release Mother 3 in the west, as a special (and expensive) release only available to buy for a few months, then Nintendo would stop printing the game, and remove the game from the eShop and never acknowledge it's existence ever again. Oh, and the release would just be the GBA ROM on a crap emulator with a IPS patch for the english transalation.
The cast can't identify their genders because they don't have any. In the U.S. is this not a common school of thought? People dont know how deep this game is and the developers/Nintendo underestimate it's impact. In the U.S., this game would be seen as revolutionary now. I played it when I was 12 or 13 about a decade ago and it changed my life.
I'd argue Earthbound's packaging really hurt it too. It kept it from being seen by as many people as other games. I have anecdotes to prove it. It was packaged with a strategy guide, which was great. But this made the box unusually large for a game. And most stores that I went to as a kid weren't set up to handle a box that size. Dumb little kid me vaguely remembers seeing the boxart in the glass cases at walmart in the back where they kept the consoles along with that big bomberman multiplayer adapter thing. But that area was basically off limits as a kid, cause I knew that section was the more "expensive" area so no sense in looking over there. Plus all the games were on the other side of the electronics section. You only had a few moments to look around before your mom was done picking up some catfood or whatever so you'd wanna maximize your time and look at the more interesting game heavy section. This was back in the day when you only learned a game existed by seeing it on the shelf in a store, somehow caught a tv commercial, or your mom bought you a game magazine after wanting to shut you up for 5 minutes and stop asking for one. I don't know how it was for other towns, but we didn't have a Blockbuster or big name rental place so I don't know how they worked back then. We had a Movie Magic later renamed to Movie Gallery. And a mom & pop rental store. And also the Piggly Wiggly rented some games and movies too for some reason. The Piggly Wiggly had these little plastic flaps with the game manuals or pictures of movies in them. You'd grab one off a wall and bring it to this little counter at the front of the store when you wanted to rent something. But the other places used the vhs boxes and game cases to sit on the shelf to promote the thing and signal it was in stock to rent. You brought those or the tape/game stocked behind it up to the counter to rent them. But not Earthbound. I don't even know if they ever rented that game out cause I never saw it outside of the glass walmart case. And if they did, the box wouldn't have fit on those shelves anyway. They were only as tall as a vhs tape. So if they used some other method to stock it, I was never aware of it. If they just stocked the game in the generic plastic case they used, well, it's a generic plastic case. Nothing to grab my dumb kid attention. So I'd just end up getting my mom to rent the Little Mermaid on Genesis or something stupid instead. So as a kid you couldn't walk up to the video game shelf in a rental store and look at the box. You probably wouldn't look at the box behind the glass cases in a department store. So, by my experience, you likely only saw that 'gross out 90s humor' style advertising for anything related to the game. It's almost like they set it up to fail. Or tried too hard to make it succeed, but overlooked the effects of bundling in the strategy guide would mean for distribution. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. But I feel that's an overlooked factor in Earthbound's failures in the west.
11:37 i wonder how much nintendo's stance has changed regarding this since then, given the paper mario remake that just came out kept vivian's trans identity intact in all regions when she was only trans in japan originally. i feel like if they're gonna go out of their way to do that for the thousand year door, maybe there's a chance mother 3 may someday officially see the light of day outside of japan.
@@theblackgamer8103 my brother in christ, this has been common knowledge for 20 years. vivian was trans in the original japanese version, with her identity being rejected by her sisters. the remake confirms her identity as trans in ALL regions. get with the real world, facts dont care about your feelings.
@@xscaralienx9398 ah yes, vivians sisters who never repeatedly mistreat her throughout the game to the point where it becomes part of her backstory 20 years ago, vivians identity was played for a bit of a shit joke but now it's not bad representation it was always agreed upon that vivian is trans until tourists like you watched a few grifters' poorly veiled attempts to keep the cash flowing and decided that something easily provable (vivian's gender identity) is just not the case.
Mother 3 is the actual gem in the series. The characters and plot completely outclass the admittedly humorous, yet shallow Earthbound. Both games have excellent soundtracks, battle systems, and climactic finales, so they're both worth playing, but Earthbound merely amuses you. Mother 3 makes you feel.
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mother 3 came out so long ago that we could have learned japanese to this point
Never gonna make it
I've tried it, it can't be done
Most Americans can't order a taco in spanish. Japanese is on another level.
I came out so long ago I could've done something of worth at this point.
@@lemmingscanfly5 Yeah, but you're gay and like Granddad 7, so you're doomed
I still can’t even believe they did the “Reggie give us Mother 3” thing. I remember watching that live.
What Reggie should've said was "how about *you* go get a job you fat, sweaty nerd!"
And thrown a smelly Yoshi egg at him haha.
@@lemmingscanfly5 Ha ha, stinkyyy!
That was real????????????????? I thought it was like, robot chicken making fun of them or something
@@iammaxhailme it actually happened during Nintendo’s 2014 E3 video. I swear Reggie himself wanted to troll us.
Technically Nintendo didn't write it - Robot Chicken did. Nintendo just said fuck it and streamed it
saying the fan translation for this game is "very good" is totally underselling it. it's absolutely phenomenal, one of the greatest fan efforts ever made. I would have gladly paid full price for it.
and most of the enemy names being puns is a translation only thing lmao
they weren't just really good, they were really lucky with them
I personally think he oversells this game, but to each their own.
The battle memory item was also a translation exclusive thing iirc
LIVE-A-LIVE
@@ConsarnitTokkori theres nothing called luck
Props to that one girl who held up a localize mother 3 sign at wwe
She the person I strive to be!
@@notsofunny9651 she's the person we all strive to be
That was definitely a guy
@@0utrunner237 it was a magypsy
@@0utrunner237 they’re non-binary,. Super kind and talented person too!
mother 1 took around 25 years to be officially localized
so see u in 2030 everyone
I think the biggest factor working against it is the fact it's on the GBA. Mother 1 was already designed to be played on a television. By the time they uprez the entire game to make it look presentable they'll probably have sunk more money into it than they'll make. The only reason Nintendo ignores these franchises for years or even decades at a time is because they never made a lot of money to begin with.
@@mariokarter13 also the fact that some of the subjects push it from being published. the very outdated and terrible representation of trans with the mygipsies is one that would make nintendo look bad, while other things like death being such a heavy theme push it even further. and because of this, i wonder if it even did get localized, would it be the same story, or would they change it too much?
@@ryelo5448
Yeah, I get the intention Itoi had with the Magypsies, but that was back in 2006 and society has changed a lot since then. I didn't find them offensive, but I understand why some people would find them offensive (especially in sites like Twitter...)
Regarding other themes like death and the TaneTane drug trip... well, just give it a T rating. Earthbound Beginnings got a T Rating when it was released on the Wii U (and that is most likely because of a reference to underage drinking)
@@mariokarter13 maybe back then but earthbound zero and earthbound sold amazingly on the wii-u
what are you doing here scrap boy
"Saving is done quickly using frogs instead of calling your dad."
I'm pretty sure that's a brand new sentence you've constructed there, Nerrel.
Moshi Moshi, Bossu?
Give my regards to the next frog you meet Rory!
@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves My Kawaii Doppio...
A rare sentence indeed.
"Yo, new sentence just dropped."
Mother 3 will now be exclusively available for a limited time until March 31st, 2021!
At this point it's better than nothing.
@@paperluigi6132 That's the problem! We have come to expect Nintendo's shitty decisions so much that now we accept them.
@@garythehippopotamus9536 some people will try and change it but other people will see it as “crying” or complaining
@@garythehippopotamus9536 ok whiner
@@GiordanDiodato Begone furry
Imagine the game being localized only to be sold for a limited time only
Fire emblem 1
dont jinx it!!!
Don’t give them ideas...
At this point, I’d take it tbh
Mario goes away on March 31st
Mark your calendars!
I would like to appreciate how Nerrel puts subtitles in his vids. As someone who sometimes has a hard time hearing, I greatly appreciate it. Thank you!
Lol wtf just listen it isn’t that hard, like just put up the volume lil nigga smfh
@@mrniceguy7168 :/
@@mrniceguy7168 Not everyone has the same physical capabilities as you. Please be considerate of others.
@@nikopierrot It's a pasta, calm down.
agreed. not only for hearing for disabilities, but for other language speakers as well! as someone who doesnt speak english for a first language im sometimes uncertain if i heard correctly, so i like having subtitles to assure the words spoken.
"Look daddy, teacher says, every-time someone mentions Mother 3 on the internet, an Angel gets its wings!"
@Gabriel Howell It's a long discontinued "Skyrunner" poster I purchased once upon a time on Fangamer! Although you can't find the poster anymore, you can still purchase the wonderful Mother 3 Handbook, along with other lovingly crafted merchandise made by skillful artists!
if its the biblically accurate ones, with like 3 pairs of wings each, then yes, that would be true.
"...your teacher's full of snot."
"...Torn off by a God-size pair of Pliers owned by Nintendo"
Did I just witness a Rocko's Modern Life reference here? :) That's awesome
I really like the boss fight where you can throw his favorite merchandise at him to make him weaker in battle
Tonda gossaaa lol
The only boss that kicked my ass hard was the Gorilla boss. Which had a damage weakness of lightning, so I used it, but did not realize until like 10 deaths later that hitting it with lightning put the boss into a berserk hard-mode pretty much, which I thought was from a damage threshold or something, lol.
@@CaptmagiKono The hardest ones for me were the barrier people, miracle Fassad, and Lord Passion. But he's so right that the game responds incredibly well to experimentation. Learning to use your item bitches is super important
@@CaptmagiKono The goddamn Steel Mechorilla. Definitely one of, if not THE hardest bosses in the game. The New Killer Cyborg isn't even as scary as that thing lol
@@CaptmagiKono I remember that Gorilla, i took another way and found it while only having Lucas and Boney (I don't remember about Duster) but i ended memorizing the 16 hit combo in that battle T.T
Still easier than barrier trio IMO
I just love the irony Nerrel points out here: that if Nintendo really believed that emulation was the devil and people just want to not pay for games, why does everyone want an official Mother 3 release at all? Check-and-mate-and-RELEASEMOTHER3NINTENDO
@Videodromed but at that point they should just release the game if they don't want people using emulators
@Videodromed i thought "removing content to retain control over intellectual property" was a myth or obsolete? i'm pretty sure i read or heard somewhere that their actions of banning items are completely redundant
also mother 4 didn't receive a cease and desist, instead, the mother 4 team rebranded it to oddity because of fears of a cease of desist
we want an official release to pirate, that's all
how can we pirate if there's nothing to pirate
@@rodingrajo998 this is incorrect
@@rodingrajo998 japanese fan translation text will be better than watered down language
Mother 3's fandom in a way surpasses Half-Life 3's, because fans already get to play it and yet still demanding for an official release because they genuinely want the public to experience this special little thing.
"must resist urge to dance"
you can't, Mr. Batty Twist is just the best track in the game to dance
But "And Yet, El Mariachi" exists tho
If you look in the subtitles it says "boogie" instead. I didn't wanna point it out and be *that guy* but if I didn't then someone else would have. Can't have that.
Uhhhh, funky monkey/open sesame tofu? It even had it's own dedicated dance competition once lol.
My favorite thing about Mother 3 that wasn't mentioned in the video: the rhythm-based battle system is used for musical jokes. A couple hours into the game, once the player has figured out how to chain attacks by following the beat, battle themes start speeding up or slowing down, switching time signatures, or abruptly cutting to dumb little musical interludes, disrupting your hits until you learn the songs and start planning around them. It's amazing and made me laugh out loud several times.
So true!!
As a musician this sound amazing!
The fan translation is far better than anything we would probably get from a treehouse-helmed translation nowadays. It's my favorite game of all time, and I think it's gotten to have a decent life online despite never getting an officially-localized physical release, just because of the work Clyde and his team did.
why don't they just fucking!!!! buy the fan translation
I know it would go against their anti-emulation principles but for god's sake. just change and grow
@@ff-qf1th They can't even make a functional port of OOT without there being all-new major graphical bugs, and they still have the guts to be charging 40$+ for it. Any version of mother 3 they released would be bastardized.
Emulation is the Nintendo fan's savior. Fans do everything related to it so much better than nintendo itself, it's pathetic.
This is what happens when you can't retain the workers that know how to do these types of jobs.
Nintendo lost the guy that made their emulated ports, now they are hopelessly bad at it.
I think it could pass as rated T. That’s what EarthBound’s rating was changed to after it’s Wii U release.
with how bad modern translators are nowadays, thank god it was made in the early internet days by a professional.
Mother 3 is one of those experiences I dont think I'll ever be able to forget. I wish more people would give it a shot.
Gotta install the rom and a Gran Buenos Aires (GBA) emulator right now
the final part is one of the best and really sad that actually made me cry, that final battle hurts
That's exactly why an official localization is important, it would broaden the audience a lot more than people think.
I would love to but don't know how lol. I actually wish I could play any of them if not all 3 Mother games.
@@soulreaperx7x If you don't mind playing in emulators, the instructions are fairly easy.
You know, after methodically researching all material about this series I can find for the past 15 years, somehow I'm still able to be surprised. The inference on the map layouts is new to me, and makes sense.
Well! I had a blast working with you on this one. Thank you for making the video! I was happy I could help you. :)
You’re welcome
:>
MY MAAAAAAAAAAN
The Legend
@@reese3141 SPEEEEEEAAAAAKREEEEEEE ODEEDYYYYYYYYYYY YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Mother 3 is one of the all-time greats. It inspired some truly excellent games, but none of them quite managed to capture its range or resonance; I'm still thinking about it years later.
You haven't played Jimmy and The Pulsing Mass apparently.
@@BrunodeSouzaLino Jimmy the pulsing mass?
As someone who hated Mother 1 and Earthbound I was an idiot and slept on Mother 3 only to play it in 2014 and it became one of my favorite games of all time
@@helloguy8934It’s a very unknown, Earthbound inspired game, with very similar graphics to Mother 3.
@@Kaisona2017 Should I play it?
It probably wasn't released in the West as it didn't have motion controls :P
helloooo youuuuu
That's why they should localize it. They could all kinds of motion controls to it
@@zm1055 its sad that I'd be ok with them doing that if its what it takes to release the game
... On the GBA?
@@peruserprecurer1446 Kirby's TIlt and Tumble had motion controls on the GBC and Yoshi Topsy-Turvy as well as WarioWare: Twisted! had it on the GBA.
The line, "Either way, the game would certainly generate discussions in today's climate, and they aren't discussions Nintendo likely wants to have," had me crying because literally the whole point of the game is to generate discussions...
Thank you. I was rather confused when in this video the irreconcilable nature of the game's core themes with Western Neoliberalism was not mentioned even as part of the picture... which it undeniably must have been from Nintendo's perspective, especially considering when the game was originally released: right in the heart of the Cheney administration.
Haha here you are again!!
@@connorross8942 wtf lmao
Jed Grahek I mean that was because of Itoi’s writing and creative direction. Modern Nintendo’s corporate leadership (very different from the creative sector that actually developed the game) clearly doesn’t want to touch any of Mother 3’s potentially controversial themes and subject matter with a ten foot pole.
@Smash 123 So you're one "those" people, huh?
Mother 3 will finally launch on the Switch in the West on March 30th 2021!!
(Only available for a limited time until March 31st 2021)
Lol oh for 1 day huh?
@@emanueljohnson26 That is the joke...
@@MrRisdon1 thanks for your insight as I ACTUALLY thought nintendo anounced mother 3 with only a 1 day window to buy........................
Non revelaant topical humor.
considering they added fe1 english translation to that list, i could believe that. just constantly releasing limited time localisations of games people want so that when it hits the week before, they're making millions a day for a little while.
"Come on Reggie give us Mother 3!"
“How about this instead?”
*dies
Based Nintendo shitting on their fandom
@@Professor_Utonium_ back when folks thought Nintendo shitting on their fans was a joke
@@NeutralL12 That's a scarily good point though lol They've been pretty low quality lately. Even Wii U era was better than most of this year's decisions
6:34 Nerrel I just want to talk
The feeling of seeing your favorite content creators in each other’s comment sections is nice
Inside the mailbox was a pile of rotten, putrid WAP.
No, I really don't want to think, neither talk about it...
3:28 “..and subtle enough you wouldn’t even notice them”
*_proceeds to play one of the most recognizable bit of music ever_*
Omg you run one of the most interesting gaming channels in the scene right now. Thanks so much for the quality content nerrel!
I remember that video I saw of someone finding a Dr. Andonuts door at an E3 event and asking one of the workers what it meant and he was just like "it's not really anything" lol damn
I wanna thank the Mother/Earthbound series for giving us great Earthbound-Like games which were inspired by Earthbound/Mother and these great and wonderful games are Citizens Of Earth, Undertale, and LISA The Painful I'm really happy and proud to play them all from beginning to end hopefully in the future people and fans will finally get Mother 3 or Earthbound 3.
Ive been curious about citizens of earth for while now...
"It's a story as old as time."
*Terranigma is shown*
[Indeed.]
If anyone reads this comment, go and play Terranigma on the SNES if you haven't. It IS one of the best games ever made.
Terranigma was localized for Europe though. It just wasn’t released in North America.
@@marty1076 Yeah. I am European so I was lucky enough to grow up with it. But it's a tragedy it wasn't released in USA.
Also, no company cares for that game. There was never any re release. The only way to play that master piece is to buy an expensive retro cardridge, that might stop functioning in the future, or to download an illegal rom.
@@derpoltergeist8265 I played it in ROM form because there would be no way for me to do so otherwise. Getting a reproduction cartridge shipped to anywhere in Latin America would be incredibly expensive.
@@marty1076 Even tho roms are illegal, they are still necessary for video game preservation. It's a shame some games get forgotten.
WHEN PAPPA NERREL POSTS, WE ALL STAND
We also stan
Yeah, sorry man, gonna have to issue you a warning for posting cringe
@@Professor_Utonium_ - It’s fine. No one lost any subscriber.
@@jerryborjon What a relief!
Fucking cybershell posts yesterday, then nerrel today. What's next?
I'm so pleased by how you addressed the magypsies. A lot of online conversations act like theyre too "edgy" for a western audience, as if there's no nuance to their portrayal, and that really pisses me off.
Just in general I feel like there are so few good videos about mother 3 and this one made me so happy :)
Playing Mother 3 ended a pretty long spell of apathy for me; if it can make an emotionless sack like me feel something, I feel like releasing the game could make a lot of other people happy.
The only game that's had that effect on me was Outer Wilds.
Mother 3 is my favorite game ever and honestly I don’t really care if Nintendo made a official localization because they would probably censor and ruin some stuff in it and you can just play the fan translation which is still open
Thank you. I'm so confused as to why people keep begging Nintendo to do it when we already have an amazing localization
@@brya9681it’s less about actually playing the game and moreso the game getting the western release and recognition that it deserves. Anyone who actually wants to play mother 3 would’ve already played it by now, fans just want Nintendo to acknowledge that their favorite game exists.
Shogo Sakai is arguably an unsung hero of the Nintendo composer lineup. Toru Minegishi, too.
I've known people who are so dedicated to an anti- emulation stance, it gets sad when they say they'll wait for the official release. Unless they change that stance or make exception, it's always going to be an unhappy ending for them. :(
What about just buying an unofficial cartridge then? I did that just bc I wanted a physical version
@@LukeOrionMarble So you' paid money to someone profiting off someone else's work, What the hell?
@@RetroPixelLizard it was pretty cheap so I'd say it was okay, I probably payed about the amount of work it took to manually put a game onto a cartridge. Its abandonware, and the fan translation is out for free, so I dont really care
@@RetroPixelLizard actually I don't think of it that way. Finding a cart with the English translation is actually pretty cheap, and you are really only paying for the labor cost and the cartridge shell itself, and not the rom.
Anti emulation weenies can just mope by themselves, then.
It doesn’t matter if you don’t like rpg’s or story focused games I will still recommend that you NEED to play mother 3 if you can
Well where can I play it???
@@tenleesmaindancer1819 If you have a Ds lite that’s able to play GB games, you can buy the fan translation of Mother 3 online or you can play an emulation if it on an emulator website
You really should explain what you mean when you say something like that.
As someone who doesn't even like EarthBound or RPGs that much, I used to think the desperation for Mother 3 to get localized was overexaggerated. When I tried the English patched ROM on my 3DS, however, I was blown away - It's easily the best traditional RPG I've ever played.
not even watched 15 seconds, but that opening is gold, as per usual.
ok I watched the full video and that was another banger, amazing job!
'Per usual', 'Perusal' means to look something over.
I laughed good at “spank my little ass for being such a noob”
Lucas in Smash Bros and The Completionist's froggy car merch is the closest we've gotten to Mother 3 in the west.
Welp it came to NSO in JP only today. Rewatching just to rub the salt in my wounds I guess IDK I'm just sad ok
Just gonna watch it before it is on everyone’s recommended
Same
Same
I'm not even subbed to Nerrel, every time somebody makes a video on Mother 3, it shows up in my recommended by default. Last time it was Leadhead.
Same
Seems it didn't make it there. Oh well...
14:40
"play skullgirls"
i completely agree
My favorite indie game!
@@tuluflulu skullgirls is a bad game
@@gfmhd1280 It's basically Marvel Vs. Capcom 4. How is that bad?
@JulianRock Is this sarcasm, or do you have anger issues?
I'm gonna say it. I really think there's no reason to want an official localization at this point. The fan translation is frankly better than anything Nintendo of America could give us, and it can be played easily by anyone with even a phone. Even if you want to play it on official hardware, patched cartridges exist. As someone with massive love in my heart for this game, I don't give a damn if Nintendo ever touches it.
This ^
Very few get this.
It is nice to be able to play the translation on the system the game was originally intended for, but I'd love for it to get a translation just to see how happy everyone would be and to introduce such a masterpiece to a wider audience. If ever there was a console to do that it would be the Switch
I have a deep fear they would censor things for the west if the ever officially translated it
Here's the thing though, the game should be accessible to everyone. Getting a fan translated rom might be easy for you or me but for the average person it might be daunting and an official release would be the first time they get to experience this game
@@NCozy You seem to think the average person is a drooling moron. You can google "Mother 3 translated rom" and quickly find a pre-patched one. And then downloading and setting up a GBA emulator is incredibly simple and user-friendly. The game IS accessible to everyone.
After seeing this video, I finally began playing and beat Mother 3 over a couple months on my GBA. There is so much love and attention to detail in this game that I completely understand why it has developed the reputation it has. It is so much more fun and accessible than Earthbound, in my opinion. The ending was very sad and actually made me tear up as I have such a close relationship with my mother and brother. If you've been on the fence, sit down with the game and play it when you have time, as I did with a busy schedule, and you will absolutely adore it.
I'm going to be dead before Mother 3 gets localized.
When we do die when it gets localized we will wake up in a heartbeat
That's the sad part about all this, if Nintendo eventually does release their own translation, it'll become the mainstream one, but it will undeniably be inferior to the one we've got now. Either people will get pissed that Nintendo's translation sucks, or the original translation gets lost to time, ya can't really decide if you want Mother 3 to be realistically released of if people just wish the patch was how the game would release all those years ago.
@@randomnerd4600 But you already know dudes are gonna try to cancel it.
What sold me on the fan translation was a simple little thing. The healing springs have haikus. Whenever the translations add an extra syllable, it will say so at the end. This actually followed the original gam which would note extra syllables. He kept that part in but then only added it when the English version would have them.
A wonderful little change which took and applied context in both languages while translating meaning :)
If it weren't for Chuggaaconroy's playthrough of Mother 3 (and EarthBound in general), I possibly would have never gotten into the game. I hope someday Nintendo rereleases it, or just makes a full-on remake FFVII style.
If that's you playing at the end, then ugh you are amazing at capturing those emotions. Great work as always, baby daddy Nerrel xoxo
OvO
Well hello there
When I'm on my deathbed I'm certain the memories and emotions I had playing Mother 2 & 3 will resurface during final moments.
“A Story as old as time”
When you don’t officially release a game so you don’t get bad press but let it be played on an emulator to avoid controversy. The end
Yeah, back in the caveman days this was a huge problem.
4:04
Some HD recreations actually used the source samples found in the Roland Sound Canvas series of synths.
Dunno if that's your thing, but I think it would be interesting if you talked about the instruments and modules used in video game music. Sometimes it can be useful for recreation and preservation purposes to know the source of the assets found in video games, including music.
@3:38
One can mod a GBA to remove most of the Hissing and board artifacts for the audio output. Even though it is competing for CPU power, the CPU itself isn't the primary source for most noise.
You'll have to clean the audio potentiometer out, polish the power switch, and add capacitors/recap the board where the stock capacitance is at its limit.
You can find guides on how to do this through google, I bulk ordered a bunch of capacitors off of digikey and have cleaned up 6 boards myself. People sell kits to fix this, but they are overpriced. Just find the right size capacitors from any electronic supplier and test the board after each swap/addition.
I actually use the sound player in Mother 3 to test the GBA's that i've done this mod on, which is why I feel I should leave this comment. The game deserves to be heard with the noise removed while playing on the original system.
Finally got around to playing this in January. One of the best games I’ve ever played. Drastically exceeded my expectations. Like playing a well written novel. Play it if you haven’t yet
I love the Magypsies. If they were real, I'd love to hang out with them. Not once did I think they were characters to laugh AT. They're people to laugh WITH. To have fun with, to enjoy their company.
No two magypsies are the same. And their flamboyance isn't something to look down upon. It gives them personality, it makes them unique, it makes them just fun characters.
There's nothing wrong with reveling in your flamboyance.
The Itoi interview was so sweet.. he said he has Magypsie friends of his own, and respects them highly. That is how they come across in the game.
Yeah its a shame that people just see their looks and personalities as stereotypes just because so many before had used those negatively.
**weeping manly tears**
@@TempestDacine Yeah, sometimes people should take a step back and think about why they're upset about the things they're upset about.
The problem is not portraying, for example, drag queens as flamboyant. The problem is using it as a form of ridicule. Which, in this case, does not apply.
They're great and some of my favorite characters in the game, but I definitely feel they're the reason we won't see an official release in the West. If the initial reluctance was due to poor sales predictions, I believe that issue is gone. Mother has a pretty decent sized following nowadays. Nintendo wouldn't even have to translate it at this point!
The main reason it hasnt been ported is because of copyright issues with the songs in the game because of all the "references" it makes to other artists works which are fine legally in japan but would get nintendo themselves copyright striked in america. There is a great video by Moon Channel explaining some of this.
Actually, I kind of disagree with the end of the video. I don't want Nintendo to release it, and I don't a "legitimate" version of the game. There is no way on earth Nintendo is going to create a better or more accurate translation than the fan patch, and I'd rather them not release an official version, because I'd rather people not play what's almost certainly going to be an inferior experience.
( -Vietnam- Netflix Evangelion Re-dub flashbacks)
This video is even funnier this week 😅
I finally got around to playing this game. Such a masterpiece. The fan translation would probably be better than anything Nintendo will do with the game
I love this video title. It’s like those cancerous ads you see on “news” sites. I love your sense of humour.
9:14 It's VERY worth mentioning that the "heartbeat" is usually synchronous with the rhythm of each battle theme and can mostly be guessed, which is why some themes sound wonky or randomly speed up and slow down - it's to throw you off and make the battle harder. Not everyone has a sense of rhythm though, which is why the game works perfectly without it (on my first playthrough using a GameFAQ walkthrough before the fan translation came out, I didn't even know this system existed lol.)
Anyway, this is a surprising review to come out but I'm happy all the same. Besides the fact that this is a short and sweet presentation of the game, it's also a rational and understandable explanation as to why Nintendo is very unlikely to ever bring it out now. Also, any chance I can get to listen to your permanently annoyed-sounding voice, I will gladly take.
I love your dry delivery so much. It fits the serous moments and makes the jokes land much harder for me
The pepole that know ness from smash be like
"This game sucks pika fire"
Btw the king is back and he came back from nowhere
Smach?
"it is not even that funny"
Bold of you to assume it was funny in the first place
I actually got to know Earthbound from Smash because I didn't have many consoles as a kid. Glad that I finished Earthbound and Mother 3. One of the best games ever.
*PK
Wow. These videos all have so much effort in them and it shows. Good job. No wonder your my favorite TH-camr
Ultra relatable
Yes
No crying until the end
@@LongSinceDead1 wasnt that the tagline :o
Also remember the commercial for the game was literally a IRL girl crying
This joke will not make sense when you inevitable change your profile pic.
You can actually read the letter/email mentioned at 13:26 here: earthboundcentral.com/2012/01/the-mother-3-e-mail
The team was able to figure out (based on the mail header info) that it likely originated from Japan!
Mother 3 is absolutely one of the best games ever. It, more than anything ever, deserves to be localised and played by as many as possible.
5:12
"It's because you skip through all the dialogues." is what I usually say to my 8yrold cousin (which I introduced to gaming) whenever he gets stucked in a game and asks for help. Talk to every NPC's, break every possible objects are some of the things I encouraged him.
apparently the actual reason it's not released in the US is because of the ost, and japan's wildly more free sampling laws
thank you for the subtitles, I am from India and it really helps me focus more on the quality content you make. Now go make new textures for Tinkle in MM you beautiful bastard.
12:01 "There's enough room for interpretation that I've seen [the Magypsies] described as both transphobic and trans-positive. Either way, the game would certainly generate discussions in today's climate, and they aren't discussions Nintendo likely wants to have."
Which is a shame, because this is exactly the kind of controversy that is actually valuable to have from a cultural standpoint. When most people talk about "controversy" it's just a shorthand for "this work contains bigoted storytelling in some fashion." But controversy that's actually valuable generates discussions. A work isn't the *end* of the discussion, it's the beginning.
And in a work like this, I feel like the discussion is one that would probably be worth having. Maybe the moment has passed. Maybe there are better conversations to be had now. This is a game that was written by an older, cisgendered, probably heterosexual Japanese man in the 90s and that came out in the mid-00s. Hell, at the time of Mother 3's release, I know that I myself held transphobic and generally homophobic beliefs, probably worse than whatever Itoi believed then. Maybe it's not helpful to go that far back?
But at the same time, it was written with the intention of positivity. So having an honest discussion about the things it did well *in addition to its shortcomings* is good, especially if we remember the historical cultural context. And, frankly, I feel like most people who are into the MOTHER franchise understand that. People who play these games tend to want to think about them and talk about them in depth.
It really is a shame if this is the reason Nintendo is shying away from an official release. I understand not wanting to offend or harm anyone. The more cynical part of me also understands not wanting to make decisions that will generate bad PR or hurt revenue. But I feel like there's a lot of value to be lost by *not* releasing it. And I think that, on the whole, it would be more beneficial than detrimental.
And aside from that... The game is such a masterpiece that it kind of hurts to not see Nintendo give it an official release. I want to support the creators in some small way. I want this to be a part of Nintendo's pantheon that they share with pride. I love the fan translation, and honestly I'm unconvinced Nintendo could do a better job themselves. But I still want to see them try.
I bought the SNES Classic just to play earthbound after watching an AVGN episode on the subject. I must say that this was one of the most wholesome and psychedelic game I've ever played.
This game is an actual paradox, at least from Nintendo's perspective. Releasing the fan translation word for word, as mentioned in the video, could prove problematic, but any major (possibly even minor) changes to the translation that could hinder said problems would likley cause outrage online from the fandom. The easy solution is to just not release it, but what would that say about Nintendo? I honestly think that their safest bet would be to retranslate it themselves, but damn. Lord knows we all think the direct translation would be preferable. All in all, I really liked this video, and await Nintendo's action on their enigma, if they choose to take action at all
Just fyi, no translation is "word for word" or direct. The fan translation team had to make a lot of decisions, even if they wanted it to be as loyal as they could.
@@fernandobanda5734 Yeah, even though they tried to be as faithful as they could to the original script, it wasn't a "literal" translation. Even then, they had to make several changes since there's a lot of untranslatable japanese wordplay in this game, and also to keep consistency with the localized version of Mother 2, EarthBound.
@@inendlesspain4724 Agreed, the best translation is not a literal translation, but a faithful recreation of the original message presented in a local format and language-context.
For some reason everything Mother 3 always touches me deeply. It's a great, emotional game. The fans seem so dead set to have the game finally in an official way. It's a rare case of development hell turning out great....
There is so much right with this Game. It doesn't deserve to be one of the "lesser known" games. It deserves more.
Mother 3 is my favorite game.
One day I want to make a 100 hour long insanely long kojima dense diatribe about every single detail in the game.
There is nothing I could possibly say to describe how much I love this game.
I think I'll watch basically any video on it.
I've played the game quite a few times but I love it so much I make each playthrough mean something.
There are only a few games that resonate with me in every aspect as much as that game.
It has influenced the way I view video games, art, even myself.
That being said, I have made peace with Mother 3 not getting an official release.
I can play it on a multitude of systems with a processor. The fan translation is basically perfect. Nintendo would cut out some stuff. Just like the video said.
Seeing the community of fans of the series make fan games and games inspired by it have left my Mother 3 shaped hole filled somewhat.
Playing Mother 3 with Joycon Drift doesn't sound like an amazing thing anyway, I guess.
All of my hopes for it having an official release have been washed away year by year.
I don't need it anymore.
I've moved on.
In all honesty, Nintendo is only hurting themselves by not releasing it themselves officially.
They're missing out on all of the Mother money.
Itoi said he's not making a Mother 4 or anything so they don't need to do the "sell to gauge interest" bullshit, anyway.
The only reason I would say they should sell it officially that benefits me (that sounds selfish I know) is that it would help making my friends play my favorite game a bit easier.
I would love to share that experience more, yes.
But when that console dies...what then?
I guess we just go back to the emulators until the next release of it?
Games can't be permanent obviously.
Mother 3 is my favorite game but I am more realistic now.
It won't give me everything I wanted like I thought it would when I was younger.
It will just be another way for me to play my favorite game.
Just like lets say the Netflix release of Evangelion.
PS: I don't mind the GBA's Noise in this particular game. It adds something to me. Those clean midi versions feel like they're missing something. But I am a Noise Rock fan so take that as you will.
the only reason i want them to release it officially is because it would reach a broader audience. i think we all want it released officially because we want the game to get the recognition it truly and obviously deserves, and in the state it's in, it feels like nintendo kicked the game to the curb and let it rot.
I never thought I could be emotionally touched by a video essay yet here I am. Thank you, Nerrel. I really mean it.
As a mother fan, I prefer that they never release an "official" translation as it won't be as good as the fan translation and probably horribly censored...
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_"I'm gonna beat you, boy. Daddy's gonna beat you."_
So far it's the only game that made me cry
Try Lisa or undertale
Or dangonrapa
Then you haven't played mystery dungeon
@@lepapanouwel4663 not yet
@@ariakhalaji4676 undertale made you cry? i loved the game, played pacifist/neutral/genocide and i never even got close to getting that emotional. mother 3 did make me cry tho, and i'm a grown ass man!!
Welp. It got announced for switch. Only in Japan though..
I swear they want to keep this meme going as long as possible
Bought a English translated cart a few weeks ago. Beat it in two weeks. Great game
Just started Mother 2 with a language hack and will soon start playing the other games as well. It definetly is an amazing series
Honestly, I feel like Mother 3 wouldn't be too out of place with modern games?
It's a timeless masterpiece.
@@samuelaviles824 a mastapeece indeed
This is probably one of the most comprehensive videos about Mother 3 overall that I've seen and its not even 15 minutes, you bastard you did it again
idgaf there's no official translation to be honest, no one on Earth knows how to translate a Mother game better than Tomato. I'm fine with NOT giving Nintendo my money, actually, they're a pretty shitty company.
Exactly and are gonna seem like the good guys after years of begging.
Best sonic channel btw
oh hey its the funny sonic man
also def on the same boat i beat the translation unless nintendo makes some beautiful 3d remaster im not giving them my money for it lol
Times have changed and I understand Nintendo is a family-friendly company and this game is old enough it'd be weird to release but Nintendo now has mature titles on the eShop and could quietly release the game on Switch Online.
If Nintendo was to release it, the game would probably have an M ratting/a disclaimer in the beginning.
No way in hell they would make it a M rated game.
M isn't ideal to reach much of an audience of they're going to go through the trouble
@@suitcasemcgee8889 conker was rated M and it still sold tons of copies. plus earthbound is rated T now and no one really cared. what's the issue?
Ftm here, It feels like everyone expects/wants us to be offended by things as some sort of cheap joke that everyone can rehash and use to actually offend us. Like the whole thing about mtf's being rapists or that the high suicide rate is funny. Trans people don't care about things other people do, everyone else just seems to care about what trans people do.
End of psa.
Mother 3 is a masterpiece btw k thx
Sorry if I'm like the billionth person to tell you this at this point but Moon Channel did a video recently on why this game won't be localized - its because of the change to US copyright about use of Music. You can thank Robin Thicke's Blurred Lines for that
13:57 Would be nice if Terranigma got an official US release. One of those games that deserves recognition, as much as something like Mother 3. I mean we already got the previous games that Terranigma succeeded, Soul Blazer and Illusion of Gaia, why not Terranigma someday?
Man, I love this game.
not the piano at the end actually moving me to tears :sobbing:
this was such a good video, thank you for this
What I’d do in Nintendo’s position is release the game as is, then slap on a giant ass red screen every time you boot up the game saying “This game was made for a different audience a long time ago, and some of the concepts and ideas present in the story may not reflect our current views, and may not be for everyone.”
or just give it an M rating. then little whiny babies can't complain because it wasn't made for them.
Fucking brilliant
I would do a remake that fixes all the outdated problems in a neat hd 2d style
So basically what they did with Looney Tunes?
I absolutely hate that. It's just such an insult to the art itself
The Nintendo of nowdays would translate and release Mother 3 in the west, as a special (and expensive) release only available to buy for a few months, then Nintendo would stop printing the game, and remove the game from the eShop and never acknowledge it's existence ever again. Oh, and the release would just be the GBA ROM on a crap emulator with a IPS patch for the english transalation.
The cast can't identify their genders because they don't have any. In the U.S. is this not a common school of thought? People dont know how deep this game is and the developers/Nintendo underestimate it's impact. In the U.S., this game would be seen as revolutionary now. I played it when I was 12 or 13 about a decade ago and it changed my life.
I'd argue Earthbound's packaging really hurt it too. It kept it from being seen by as many people as other games. I have anecdotes to prove it.
It was packaged with a strategy guide, which was great. But this made the box unusually large for a game. And most stores that I went to as a kid weren't set up to handle a box that size. Dumb little kid me vaguely remembers seeing the boxart in the glass cases at walmart in the back where they kept the consoles along with that big bomberman multiplayer adapter thing. But that area was basically off limits as a kid, cause I knew that section was the more "expensive" area so no sense in looking over there. Plus all the games were on the other side of the electronics section. You only had a few moments to look around before your mom was done picking up some catfood or whatever so you'd wanna maximize your time and look at the more interesting game heavy section. This was back in the day when you only learned a game existed by seeing it on the shelf in a store, somehow caught a tv commercial, or your mom bought you a game magazine after wanting to shut you up for 5 minutes and stop asking for one.
I don't know how it was for other towns, but we didn't have a Blockbuster or big name rental place so I don't know how they worked back then. We had a Movie Magic later renamed to Movie Gallery. And a mom & pop rental store. And also the Piggly Wiggly rented some games and movies too for some reason. The Piggly Wiggly had these little plastic flaps with the game manuals or pictures of movies in them. You'd grab one off a wall and bring it to this little counter at the front of the store when you wanted to rent something. But the other places used the vhs boxes and game cases to sit on the shelf to promote the thing and signal it was in stock to rent. You brought those or the tape/game stocked behind it up to the counter to rent them. But not Earthbound. I don't even know if they ever rented that game out cause I never saw it outside of the glass walmart case. And if they did, the box wouldn't have fit on those shelves anyway. They were only as tall as a vhs tape. So if they used some other method to stock it, I was never aware of it. If they just stocked the game in the generic plastic case they used, well, it's a generic plastic case. Nothing to grab my dumb kid attention. So I'd just end up getting my mom to rent the Little Mermaid on Genesis or something stupid instead.
So as a kid you couldn't walk up to the video game shelf in a rental store and look at the box. You probably wouldn't look at the box behind the glass cases in a department store. So, by my experience, you likely only saw that 'gross out 90s humor' style advertising for anything related to the game. It's almost like they set it up to fail. Or tried too hard to make it succeed, but overlooked the effects of bundling in the strategy guide would mean for distribution. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. But I feel that's an overlooked factor in Earthbound's failures in the west.
11:37 i wonder how much nintendo's stance has changed regarding this since then, given the paper mario remake that just came out kept vivian's trans identity intact in all regions when she was only trans in japan originally. i feel like if they're gonna go out of their way to do that for the thousand year door, maybe there's a chance mother 3 may someday officially see the light of day outside of japan.
He is not trans. He is a trap. My god anyone who thinks Vivian is trans legit refused to acknowledge that traps are just crossdressers.
@@theblackgamer8103 my brother in christ, this has been common knowledge for 20 years. vivian was trans in the original japanese version, with her identity being rejected by her sisters. the remake confirms her identity as trans in ALL regions.
get with the real world, facts dont care about your feelings.
The sisters use the word ti describe a male that likes to dress and act femenine. He is not trans at all in japanese, sorry
@@xscaralienx9398 ah yes, vivians sisters who never repeatedly mistreat her throughout the game to the point where it becomes part of her backstory
20 years ago, vivians identity was played for a bit of a shit joke but now it's not bad representation
it was always agreed upon that vivian is trans until tourists like you watched a few grifters' poorly veiled attempts to keep the cash flowing and decided that something easily provable (vivian's gender identity) is just not the case.
Mother 3 is the actual gem in the series. The characters and plot completely outclass the admittedly humorous, yet shallow Earthbound. Both games have excellent soundtracks, battle systems, and climactic finales, so they're both worth playing, but Earthbound merely amuses you. Mother 3 makes you feel.