I have a Sailproof Android tablet. 1000 NIT plus screen which you can see in bright sunlight. It works with gloves and when wet, does not overheat . It is wired to be permanently charging but uses less juice than a chart plotter. I have a WIFI network transmitting NMEA 0183. So the Navionics displays AIS (from the radio) , depth, COG. This sort of answers all your issues apart from lending it to temporary users of the boat. I also have a kindle which displays wind etc. Being eink it has no issues with sunlight. Hope this helps your other readers. Lots of solutions out there just pick what suits you best.
Never knew you could get wind etc from a Kindle. Brilliant little devices though, battery lasts weeks and less weight than a book and they can carry a library!
I have raspberrypi which produces a Web page which the kindle displays. It is home built and programmed by myself using golang and picore os which runs in memory so no issues with corrupting ssd cards.
@@grahamrichardson9613 On the Swallow Yachts Association website under latest web updates there is a subject called Boat Instruments. Slightly out of date but essentially the same - can't seem to put a llnk here
I use handheld stuff, vhf and plotter, can take it on various boats and charters. Just need to keep spare batteries and/or a charger handy. Though small screen size is becoming an issue with older eyes.
We used an iPad Pro (cellular) with Navionics on our boat for almost 5 years, but we also had an aging Raymarine plotter. The Raymarine had AIS and Radar connected too. The iPad had a larger screen, and much easier to use. The biggest issue with the iPad was it switching off when it got hot. At the start of this season we upgraded the chart plotter and radar to a bigger 12” model and the iPad is relegated to the chart table. The new chart plotter is amazing but I do miss the Navionics app though.
Thanks, i'm still getting used to having a fixed plotter and , like you, my IPad is down below. Garmin make you use their "ActiveCaptain" App to interface with the plotter, which, apart from the cringy name, is very similar to the Navionics Boating app.
Excellent video, both photography and editing. And your thoughts on the ipad versus a chartplotter very well presented. I tried a tablet but the lack of brightness in the summer made it difficult... Well done .. Best Wishes ... Dave
Great video, nice to see you share your journey and the thought process. One more downside of the chart plotter for me is that it is a security risk if you can't remove it (or is that the scouser in me thinking that!!). I'm on the same journey as you so currently persevering with the tablet and phone etc but it does feel a little bit like all paths lead to the chart plotter at times!!! It would be lovely having all the boat data and maps on one screen. I would say I have a pretty cheap Android tablet but the battery lasts all day long playing video, let alone usong it for mapping. It has a 20,000mah battery and is IP67 but I still have the wet screen issue and also the sun, but often wondered if a decent screen protector would help.
I did think of the security issue, but nobody has nicked it yet.. it’s not like I’ve bought an expensive piece of kit then told everyone on the internet where it is….. oh wait …
@@Morningvicar Haha. You also don't have the boat on a mooring up here near Liverpool so probably fine!!! I htink that "city" mentality I still have means I still think you need to weld everything down!!! I think with my boat living on a trailer a lot of the time its more of a risk than being in a marina to be honest!
Quick heads up with Black Friday coming. The Google Pixel tablet does NOT have GPS built in. My wife has one and it's a very nice, quality piece of kit but no GPS. Even my cheap Samsung A8 has it.
Nice video, ably argued. I'm still on the fence but falling away from tablet or chartplotter, towards older ways. I'm tired of boats for sale whose vendors treat their array of backlit screens and LED switch panels as assets they're proud of; on my next boat I want to entirely de-screen (I sit in front of five in my daily work). 😑 On that basis I may de-wire _everything_, save perhaps the depth sounder and nav lights, for the pleasure of simplicity and to hone my resourcefulness with traditional skills and low or no-tech systems. I like the idea of bringing aboard a bagful of charged-up handheld kit that can reside unused in an under-berth locker because I can largely do without it, but treat as gems of technology on occasions when I can't trust my dead reckoning, chartwork, oil lamp, etc. I'm not normally a luddite but I want to do it the hard way (with a safety net). I'm sure plotters (and navigational apps on non-sailing devices) are as great a gain for safety and saved time as satnav on the road, but I'm very sure I used my head more when I planned a long drive on a road map because there was no option. I seem to remember enjoying a sense of achievement, too! 😄
Hi. Thanks for the video. Our Shrimper has a no longer functioning NASA depth sounder, isn’t helpful in the Dart! Have been recommended a Garmin plotter, as well as sorting out the basic electronics. What sort of cost was your Garmin and how easy is it to fit a transducer? We have an inboard. Thanks
Hi. The plotter/sounder was around £500. My fancy transducer was another £150 but if you could fit an in-hull one quite easily, it just needs bonding to the inside
ohi see....no, not at all. The screen is easy to read and the chart is very obvious. Although the resolution is a little lower, the brightness (and therefore contrast) is a lot higher.
Consider a matte screen protector film, makes screen non-reflective. Cheap and easy, see in daylight. Does attract that cursed Sea Monster, though…. Any hacks prevent corrosion of charging cables? Always my connection thingy turns green/corrodes. Please, Thanks, Arrrr matey
interesting video, I have an old Raymarine chartplotter with a 5" screen which is to small to be of use so tend to rely on a Samsung tablet or my Pixel phone with Navionics. I do like the idea of having depth, speed and chart on one device - could you confirm the Garmin model you have installed please?
I have a Sailproof Android tablet. 1000 NIT plus screen which you can see in bright sunlight. It works with gloves and when wet, does not overheat . It is wired to be permanently charging but uses less juice than a chart plotter. I have a WIFI network transmitting NMEA 0183. So the Navionics displays AIS (from the radio) , depth, COG. This sort of answers all your issues apart from lending it to temporary users of the boat. I also have a kindle which displays wind etc. Being eink it has no issues with sunlight. Hope this helps your other readers. Lots of solutions out there just pick what suits you best.
Thank you.
Never knew you could get wind etc from a Kindle. Brilliant little devices though, battery lasts weeks and less weight than a book and they can carry a library!
I have raspberrypi which produces a Web page which the kindle displays. It is home built and programmed by myself using golang and picore os which runs in memory so no issues with corrupting ssd cards.
@@andybeevers6670 what a great solution. Can you provide some more details on the programming please. Might be above my skillset but ???
@@grahamrichardson9613 On the Swallow Yachts Association website under latest web updates there is a subject called Boat Instruments. Slightly out of date but essentially the same - can't seem to put a llnk here
I use handheld stuff, vhf and plotter, can take it on various boats and charters. Just need to keep spare batteries and/or a charger handy. Though small screen size is becoming an issue with older eyes.
We used an iPad Pro (cellular) with Navionics on our boat for almost 5 years, but we also had an aging Raymarine plotter. The Raymarine had AIS and Radar connected too. The iPad had a larger screen, and much easier to use. The biggest issue with the iPad was it switching off when it got hot. At the start of this season we upgraded the chart plotter and radar to a bigger 12” model and the iPad is relegated to the chart table. The new chart plotter is amazing but I do miss the Navionics app though.
Thanks, i'm still getting used to having a fixed plotter and , like you, my IPad is down below. Garmin make you use their "ActiveCaptain" App to interface with the plotter, which, apart from the cringy name, is very similar to the Navionics Boating app.
Excellent video, both photography and editing. And your thoughts on the ipad versus a chartplotter very well presented. I tried a tablet but the lack of brightness in the summer made it difficult... Well done .. Best Wishes ... Dave
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, nice to see you share your journey and the thought process.
One more downside of the chart plotter for me is that it is a security risk if you can't remove it (or is that the scouser in me thinking that!!). I'm on the same journey as you so currently persevering with the tablet and phone etc but it does feel a little bit like all paths lead to the chart plotter at times!!! It would be lovely having all the boat data and maps on one screen. I would say I have a pretty cheap Android tablet but the battery lasts all day long playing video, let alone usong it for mapping. It has a 20,000mah battery and is IP67 but I still have the wet screen issue and also the sun, but often wondered if a decent screen protector would help.
I did think of the security issue, but nobody has nicked it yet.. it’s not like I’ve bought an expensive piece of kit then told everyone on the internet where it is….. oh wait …
@@Morningvicar Haha. You also don't have the boat on a mooring up here near Liverpool so probably fine!!! I htink that "city" mentality I still have means I still think you need to weld everything down!!! I think with my boat living on a trailer a lot of the time its more of a risk than being in a marina to be honest!
Here’s a tip
As well as navigation, photos and the internet, an iPhone can actually be used to make telephone calls!
Thanks for the tip!
@ …when someone phones me I panic…don’t know how to answer!
I would keep the functions separate for reliability.
Especially the depth, which is the most essential.
Cheap rugged tablet is the way to go.
I think the depth is the only essential to be honest. I've actually kept the NASA depth unit running just inside the cabin.
Quick heads up with Black Friday coming. The Google Pixel tablet does NOT have GPS built in. My wife has one and it's a very nice, quality piece of kit but no GPS. Even my cheap Samsung A8 has it.
Nice video, ably argued. I'm still on the fence but falling away from tablet or chartplotter, towards older ways.
I'm tired of boats for sale whose vendors treat their array of backlit screens and LED switch panels as assets they're proud of; on my next boat I want to entirely de-screen (I sit in front of five in my daily work). 😑
On that basis I may de-wire _everything_, save perhaps the depth sounder and nav lights, for the pleasure of simplicity and to hone my resourcefulness with traditional skills and low or no-tech systems. I like the idea of bringing aboard a bagful of charged-up handheld kit that can reside unused in an under-berth locker because I can largely do without it, but treat as gems of technology on occasions when I can't trust my dead reckoning, chartwork, oil lamp, etc. I'm not normally a luddite but I want to do it the hard way (with a safety net).
I'm sure plotters (and navigational apps on non-sailing devices) are as great a gain for safety and saved time as satnav on the road, but I'm very sure I used my head more when I planned a long drive on a road map because there was no option. I seem to remember enjoying a sense of achievement, too! 😄
A noble quest indeed. Good luck 👍
Aye, all good practice…but bet you don’t use a lead line!
@@markthomasson5077 you're right, I'll probably keep all the wired kit and add radar too.
Hi. Thanks for the video. Our Shrimper has a no longer functioning NASA depth sounder, isn’t helpful in the Dart! Have been recommended a Garmin plotter, as well as sorting out the basic electronics. What sort of cost was your Garmin and how easy is it to fit a transducer? We have an inboard. Thanks
Hi. The plotter/sounder was around £500.
My fancy transducer was another £150 but if you could fit an in-hull one quite easily, it just needs bonding to the inside
@ Many thanks. Something to look into for the Spring. We definitely needed to get a decent sounder and a plotter as well sounds useful.
The sound on this seems to be running at double speed, checked other vlogs and there sound is correct
Sorry sorry, I’ve rebooted and all is well so clearly my end not yours!
So which Garmin did you get? Is that a 723?
Do you find the fact that the screen is vertical makes it awkward to follow the chart?
Do you mean on the Phone?
@ on the chart plotter. I use a tablet and usually it is at around 45 degrees
ohi see....no, not at all. The screen is easy to read and the chart is very obvious. Although the resolution is a little lower, the brightness (and therefore contrast) is a lot higher.
Which fabric is your sails? Raw cotton?
Normal 8oz Dacron.
@@Morningvicar Tks. On video the texture did not seems to be from synthetic ones. Nice color tone. Nice choice. I liked it pretty much.
Consider a matte screen protector film, makes screen non-reflective. Cheap and easy, see in daylight. Does attract that cursed Sea Monster, though….
Any hacks prevent corrosion of charging cables? Always my connection thingy turns green/corrodes. Please, Thanks, Arrrr matey
II’m sure solid gold ones would do the trick 😊
interesting video, I have an old Raymarine chartplotter with a 5" screen which is to small to be of use so tend to rely on a Samsung tablet or my Pixel phone with Navionics. I do like the idea of having depth, speed and chart on one device - could you confirm the Garmin model you have installed please?
Thanks for watching. The model is a Garmin Echomap uhd2 73cv.
or use Orca core and display. best of both worlds