This is the MOST EXPENSIVE Mercedes to own (& it's not even close!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Rustam from @speedtv3649 shares the difficulty of owning the Mercedes-McLaren SLR
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#MercedesBenz #McLaren #SLR
I had a customer with an SLR he was annoyed he paid McLaren prices for a 230 chassis SL. He came back for issues like this man, so our dealership gave him a trickle charger and told him to drive it weekly. 80% of his issues were gone.
It's amazing how things "break" without use. High performance cars need to be driven like HIGH PERFORMANCE CARS!... or they get... unhappy.
I let my mustang(97 gt, I know it's not a super car)sit for a little longer than 6 months. For the first 5 miles I had heavy front vibration. Pulleys are nagging at me still like a scorned neglected woman who has been stood up, it's intermittently deciding whether or not she wants to use the starter when I rotate the key forward, forcing me to push and pop start it(thought it was the Anti theft). Moral of my long story is, you're right I need to do more highway runs and clutch dump, brake stabbing donuts in the middle of intersections.
@Peter Angles McLarens are a nightmare
Even for billionaires and multi millionaires on TH-cam who own sennas and p1s
They all have never ending issues
Triple F collection, Manny Khoshbin, Salomondrin, Hamilton collection, etc
@Peter Angles agreed on the Porsche, but Ferrari? all my clients who had Ferraris would complain it was in the shop for at least a week every 2months.
...to be fair, the 500SL I used to get trucked around in was utterly bulletproof. I described it as a civilized maniac - quiet in town, ludicrous when booted down the A27.
Always felt the McMerc broke the understated nature of this incredible chassis, added a lot of pazzzzing and fuss...
Nothing says “money pit” like a car that’s both Mercedes and Mclaren.
LOL! That's the god's honest truth!
Its a Lime
Perfectly said!
I agree from personal experience. This can also be said for other higher end brands. BMW is a big one.
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58k for just 2 carbon disks and 2 brake pads to me is insane regardless of the car, the fronts are probably even more expensive...so a brake job would be around 120k, considering the msrp was less than 600k 1/5 of the value of the car is just in brakes...
eh you can probably find someone who makes brakes that are up to spec that are not McLaren. If not in America, then definitely in new zealand or in some post USSR country
I'd be looking to swap them for normal carbon ceramic brakes as they are only $22k aud for the full set of Brembo Mercedes rotors, pads, and callipers
Leno mentioned in his video he wisely declined the ceramic carbon brakes on his purchase.
Fronts are the same price as the rears, $26,840 each list. Rear pads $1,770.
@@richardturner8630 That's because (as even Jay admits) he drives like a grandma. He feels no need to have any of his cars equipped with carbon ceramic brakes.
I worked at Mercedes for a while and I would often hear people say, "There's nothing more expensive than driving a cheap AMG". That's mostly true, but I found an exception: The only thing more expensive than driving a cheap AMG is *not* driving a cheap AMG.
Some of the most expensive bills I ever saw were people that let their cars sit. Drive your car or give it to someone who will.
Carbon ceramic brakes are serious business. But its good to know the trusty Italian Tuneup still works like a charm
It is what i did for 20 years in mountain biking on my downhill bike. Going to 60-70 km to heat the brakes and have the new pad ready.
This process is called “bedding”.
For 58k no thank you
Jay Leno always says to forget the carbon fiber/ceramic brakes for this reason. Unless you are going to seriously track a car like this...the standard metallic brakes are fine. I agree.
@@sweethands4328 definitely, this guy doesn't even know what they are lol as awesome as they are realistically their main function is to show off how little regard for money you have haha baring some exception of course, im sure some super car owners put them through their passes
I just got an ad for 15% off brakes at orielly’s, i suggest giving them a call
lol
The best comment ever. Lol
The SLRs brakes would be the equivalent in cost to all of O'Reillys brake stock for probably 6 months.lol.
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Loool🎉
Great vid of a guy complaining about owning a SLR- Mclaren.
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I would too if i had one 😂😂🤣😂😂😂
And complaining then he can’t run a 20 year old hyper car on a Porsche 911 budget.
LMAO ikr...
I like how McLaren gave him a top tip to simply drive the car and it will get better (warm up the brakes super hard).
You always need to "bed in" the brakes to transfer material onto the rotor. Never thought about having to get a car to triple digits to do that though.
When I did the brakes on my Vette it was 30 times from like 50-20 with no complete stops and then letting the car cool completely straight after. I'd much rather do a handful of runs from triple digits and be done. Having said that, properly bedding the brakes really helps with brake shudder and noise. You don't "have" to do it but it makes it nicer to drive.
@@ZboeC5 30 times seems excessive as hell. It was a pain in the ass for me to bed in the brakes on one of my Lexuses (Lexi??) when having to start and slow down 8 times. I am not even sure it made any difference since I never had any shudder or noise anyways, aside from a squeal when a front caliper went bad. That was embarrassingly noisy and frustrating b/c it took a week of taking the car apart over and over before just saying screw it and ordering two front calipers. No more squeal.
With racing pads you do. Even on my Corvette with racing pads you gotta work your way up doing stops to bed the pads. 10-40mph, 10-60mph and eventually up to 100-120mph. Race pads dont start working till they get much hotter than regular street pads so theyre gonna need to see higher speeds.
I was talking to a DeLorean owner a few months back. He had bought it from a celebrity who had let it been sitting for 10 years. As a result, the oil and gasoline had turned to gunk, completely destroying the engine. The new owner had to spend $15,000 to get the car running again.
It's another reason to not let these super/hypercars sit. It really makes me wonder what's happened to the internals of the last "brand new" McLaren F1 that's never been driven by its owner.
Part of me is envious that I’ll never be able to afford such a car but also part of me is also glad that my brakes only cost less than a $100 for all four corners.
@Yippee Skippy that’s also a great point.
I guess if you don’t count the CLK GTR
Funny how he was happy that took care of the brakes but eventually it’s gonna cost him the $58,000. Brakes don’t last forever. Probably even more with how everything is going up.
The weird part, I'm sure their are aftermarket brake companies that have hat/rotor setups that would fit exactly. As for brake pads - they made to fit the calipers which I'm pretty sure are not 100% custom.
Seems like poor engineering all around. I mean if Brembo has a caliper that is 99% of what you want, but takes 14mm bolts and you are insisting on 12 mm bolts - the smart thing to do would be adjust your design for the off the shelf 14mm mounting bolts. The dumbest thing would be to insist that Brembo redesigns its caliper to use 12 mm bolts.
Porsche used to do this. They were Brembo's No. 1 customer in the 1990s - but when the calipers came in, Porsche would disassemble and rebuild them with their own seals and customization. Never dawned on Porsche to talk with Brembo and discuss which seals would be actually better for a street car and have Brembo deliver the calipers ready to go. Porsche was of the thought that since they build limited production cars, cost was of no concern. Porsche was the model of inefficiency.
Man I'd take those ceramic brakes out and put them in my china cabinet for display. Then, put steel rotors all around.
@@zxggwrt funny you say that because that's exactly what people who own gt3s do with their brakes. Then when it's time to sell the vehicle they threw the ceramic brakes back on.
@@confuse9 It's possible one could fit standard Merc 230 brakes on that car
This car can do 200mph do you want to try and stop at that speed with standard Iron rotors and road spec pads?
Also regarding the 12mm Nuts.
Essentially you're buying the brand - hence the steep parts prices.
But your also buying McLarens racing knowledge.
The carbon brakes are most likely race car spec and designed for one purpose only: high performance braking and lightness.
Hence the 12mm bolts. .
Every gramme counts in racing.
I do think McLarens have build quality issues....
But good this guy drives the car ..
It was my dream car from the time I purchased it in nfs most wanted 2005.
Buys a SLR-McLaren and expects Lexus like reliability and Hyundai Accent servicing costs.
I was a detailer at a Mercedes Dealer, master tech was doing the brakes on a SLR, literally tells me to stand back because the brakes cost 3x the Nissan Xterra I had just bought
The issue with the brake price quite is correct and realistic: I work with a number of specialist engineering firms in aerospace, and keeping certain airframes in the air once they are decades out of production is an exercise in ultra low volume customized manufacturing of complex parts with stringent performance requirements. And that means insane money, often 10 times what you can expect to pay for the equivalent OTS part. I imagine it's pretty much the same with high performance cars that are many years out of production.
When he said the cost of the rear breaks replacement I was like 😱 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯💀💀💀
Just goes to show that even a supercar shouldn't be taken to the Mercedes stealership. Find yourself a good indie that loves German cars and save yourself a ton of time, money, and headaches getting the dealership techs to work way above their heads. Those guys are just used to bolting accessories onto nearly-new cars, not diagnosing a 20 year old precision machine.
i think some owners think that dealers should be able to " fix " anything well the first time. not knowing how much of a mess the place can be interinally
It's crazy these cars turn 20 yrs old next year
We had a customer come in wanting a quote on pads and rotors for some sort of AMG Mercedes, I cannot remember which model. We quoted him $5,000 for front pads and rotors only, he jumped on it. Im assuming he had been calling around and we were the cheapest price. The car had the two piece front brake rotors with some kind of Kevlar or carbon fiber, maybe ceramic??, rotors and the parts had to come from the Mercedes dealer. That the most expensive simple brake job Ive ever saw, Ive saw some that need all new brake lines, hoses, master cylinder and ABS module cost more, but never for just pads and rotors. Now I have.
that brake procedure isn't specific to this car, I've done the same in the past to fix material transfer on brakes just at lower speeds as my car didn't have carbon ceramic brakes.
I can't help but hear Hoovie's voice saying "Just look at the quality....". 😆
Would've been cool if he kept his. I was anticipating those videos
That Mercedes is the the new Range Rover in Repairs...a mechanic Wet dream
Every "exotic" car story makes me glad I bought a Porsche 911.
So to sum up this video please make sure you get a PPI done before you buy any expensive exotic and avoid most of the issues discussed here. Who would have thought.....
It's always cool to see people from the place you live on channels you watch regularly.
This reminds me about what Jeremy Clarkson said about Mercedes ownership. Something about it breaking, going into the shop, and coming back more broken, then going back into the shop.
Manny Koshbin owns like 8 or 9 of these and one is a heritage edition
Manny khoshbin be like I’ll still own more 100 of these 😂
If these brakes can heat up this much and still function, why did nobody try to adapt at least a similar level of performance to regular brakes? I get that an economy car is a tenth the price of this car, but it is ridiculous that one single hard braking event on the highway is enough to fade the brakes on a Subaru Forester. What if I need to evade something a second time shortly after the first time, and my brakes do nothing as they have faded? Would it really be this hard to have pads and rotors closer to this on normal cars just to keep brakes from failing from a single hard stop?
Thing's that car manufacturers often forget to tell part 1
Sounds like owning this car is gods way of saying you have too much money ~)
Who knew a car could be such a nightmare to own? Sure they are very nice, very expensive cars. I also have never seen one personally other than photos.
Didn’t most of these problems sound like something you would check before buying . Maybe a test drive .. I mean not even checking the key.. come on
How much was the battery on the SLR?
My SL55 AMG battery costs me £290 pounds 😫
Wondering if the CLK GTR is more expensive still to run
Rustam tells great stories. He got incisive wit. :)
Knowing the price for replacing the rear brakes, I want to know why you haven't sold the car.
And this is why you need to drive these cars, not let them sit and treat them like investments
$58,000!?! That’s just weekend cash right?😅
Very nice timing with the premier financing adds. Can't imagine even they would finance this car though.
Strange he can afford the slr,but not the brake job.
....oooh my AMG! I have SLR parked in my dream garage....now it's gonna cost me dreamy amount of money...I hope it doesn't matter to my dream model honey....
You didn't tell us the cause of the dead battery. Alternator not charging, old battery, or both?
We explain it better in our other video on @speedtv . we had just picked it up from the body shop and the guys at the body shop didn’t keep the battery on a trickle charger. so we the battery was weak . had to replace the battery
I knew a drug dealer that shadowed as our Toyota dealerships outside detailing company. He showed up one night in a brand new slr. About a month later he was arrested by the feds.
Manny Khoshbin has entered the chat
So I got a Tipp for you. If you have a car like that, with a Top speed far beyond 120 Mph… you should be able to drive it to it’s potential… at last once a month. Thank god I am living in the only country, were you can drive your Bugatti Chiron up to V-Max on a public road. (I am bone poor and drive a 1.9 TDI Passat… I know what I am talking about ;-b)
RENNtech can convert the brakes to the more affordable, newer carbon ceramics
The slr mcalren is one of my all time favorite cars . Sadly though its also the reason I'm terrified of owning an older amg merc. I keep looking at cl55s which I really like but the suspension on those is a nightmare. I think if a c55 ever comes up for sale in my country I'll be on that in a heart beat.
C55 and CLK55 ,,the most reliable and lowest cost AMG you can own and run.
Manufacturing cost of even the most expensive road car brakes is wayyyyyy lower...in the hundreds, not thousands!
Leno called his diablo reliable too...
“Closed course” HA sounds like a dream when they tell you to speed
Lol that my friend is called a lemon 😂
Dude, Manny Koshbin has like 9 of these.
that's why some " dream " cars should remain a dream. he didn't mention how much he spent for those few hours of fun. im guessing 2g's an hour. after 2 dealer visits.
Crap I thought this was Derrick Jeter with a Chrylser Crossfire at first, I really got to use full screen mode and get out of the comment section.
I am just wondering manny khosbin got like 7 or 8 of them sitting around.... That could cost him a new car in total
You live in lancaster? Nice I'm in york! Hope I see you around sometime!
At that point, I made my own rotors.
The dealership is just fucking with you at that point
They fix one thing and break something else because they like seeing the car and want to spend more time with it
what about the stirling moss ?
Im factory trained SLR tech ( first one in LA 2005)... I also work on Jay Leno's Mclarens, I've only had to replace one set of discs on a car that had 60000 miles on it and was tracked once a month.... repair cost was $120k..... the discs on this car are a work of art..... nothing on any Ferrari , Porsche , Bentley or Lambo comes close.... you get what you pay for...
Plus your description of the "brake burn off/bed in" procedure is totally inaccurate. the procedure involves 3 different speeds, and 3 different brake pressure applications up to and including full ABS activation, and then a specific cool down drive cycle
Sounds like the guy didn't do his research before he bought the car. These cars are well known money pits, especially the brakes
Hit me up, I own 2 of these, brakes cost me 16k for front& rear at dealer, its not 58k for rear. You are getting robbed..
I wonder what with the brake discs that there are no aftermarket alternatives or is the dealership just incompetent. Not saying cheap discs but real high end discs from top disc mfgs
I'm sorry but 58k for brakes is absolutely insane iv heard some of the carbon brakes on the new Porsche's are around 20k to replace and I thought that was insane. But 58K!!!!!!! WHAT! For that money I can get a very clean barley used low mileage 2012 C63 with some left over for a few goodies. That I would just run into the ground and probably have way more fun then the SLR I'm sorry but if 8 have 58k to spend on brakes I deff ain't buying brakes when I can get a whole car with a great engine with loads of power and loads of torque with great sound and super fun to drive. And I would bleed that engine dry and then just go cop another one. Hell maybe I'd get a e63 afterwards run that bitch into the ground also. Idk that's just me tho.
Sorry for the rant
Ha Ha! I was at the dealer getting my car worked on when that SLR was there. I got the walk around by my mechanic so I was able to oogle at it.
I feel THE PAIN in his story... same sort of problems with bmw f02 7 series....
Well now we know who bought the Paris Hilton SLR
So where is the car. Is it fixed.
You'll get more than that in resale value man.
At 9:52, left rear wheel on the wrong side!? Or am i wrong… i mean, what amateurs are working on this guys’ car if that’s really the case?
6:52 squirrels? 🐿 On the car? 😂
Should’ve had Manny on!
Most of the things he dealt with should have been checked before he purchased it.
Should have gotten a flat bed tow truck
Thanks for killing my childhood dream
Good morning everyone have a good day
Ed’s just attacking the slr cuz hoovie has one non gull-wing doors model.
This is exactly why I don't want some of my dream cars. I don't want to sink my cash into a single vehicle when I have an entire collection to maintain... it gets spendy fast... especially in the desert where our roads SUCK!!!
When I look for a vehicle, I want something that fits a niche and can actually be enjoyed. I research the cars I want most and then consider the cost of repairs, lack of reliability, etc.
Example:
Last year, I wanted a comfortable luxury cruise mobile. I wanted something I could enjoy and still drive in comfort. I wanted something simple, yet elegant. I decided upon a Lincoln Town Car.
I found a gem. A Red 2004 Lincoln Town Ultimate Car that sat for 5 years without being driven when I bought it. 150K miles.
It fired right up and has had *ZERO* issues. I have driven it for 45,000 miles and I can see why Saudi Princes, many celebrities, and a few eccentric people collect them...
*BULLETPROOF*
The panther platform has nearly endless build potential. It can be built into anything the heart desires. It will never be the best in any category, but it is good in every category.
The deciding factor was parts availability and ease of repair in the area. When I need to drive long road trips in the Midwest U.S. with my family, I dont want to breakdown and have no options. My Town Car can be fixed in the finest O'Reilly's parking lot...
Some of us just dont have to roads to own the expensive cars. The roads dictate the driving... we have potholes that are brutal. Stance guys don't exist in my area because the roads are so bad...
I can tell the previous owner rarely drove it
So battery, perished rubber seal and just needs a black key cut. Hardly issues that the common man doesnt face.
The ultimate lemon!!
That’s insane that’s my kind of luck 🍀
I still want it.
If it's a McClaren it's like a banana. If it sits.It's gonna go bad in a few days lmao ha ha ha :D
Even if i could afford it i would never own a super car, pay so much money for more unnecessary problems.
This guy is pretty funny and reasonable
Its mclaren thing. Great channel
Sounds like manny needs to buy it and give it some good TLC
this is why i drive a chevy.
Vin Wiki must stand for hating Supercars
id say this or the clk gtr
I think it's funny he buys a car with carbon ceramic brakes and doesn't realize that if you don't get them up to 800 degrees they don't work. And then they don't overheat until like 3,000°.
Yeah, what a maroon. Nobody was born with that information in their heads. Had to learn it at some point.
Never buy a car where the service and parts prices from the manufacturer are punitive. Lowas looking at Ferrari a while back, and eventually passed on the idea because buying the car would have been the CHEAP part. Never buy an exotic car,…until you can afford two of them.
Manny….hold my beer
Dealership: "58 thousand dollars for the rear brakes. We need to precision machine and balance new rotors from scratch."
Him: "Are there any other options?"
Dealership: "Make the brakes go brrrrr."
The fact that they wouldn't tell him that off the bat is absurd. If I owned a shop I wouldn't give a customer a quote for that until I had exhausted ALL other options. Really proves how scummy most dealer franchises are.
Very cool story.
low production vehicle and Mercedes is not known durability with S Class and above models. I had a 2002 CL600 for 3yrs and in comparison to other vehicles I've had It's Basically a LEMON
Car honestly looks like a 90s camaro
Tbh I thought it was an April fools joke video 🤣😂 holy crap $58k for rotors?!😱