Enjoying all your Zbook updates, Andy! I've owned HP workstation laptops before they were even called Zbooks, back when they began with "W" designation. Currently running a Fury G8. The Ada Lovelace update looks sweet.
Excellent review. Currently I await the verdict from my divisions VP upon the upgrade / update of my current laptop. We will most likely be going with either the G9 or G10. I would be happy with either to be honest (used for coding / DevOps and virtualization).
I got this Laptop too: a downer if you use dual rank ram the ram will work only at 3.600 MHz instead 4.800 MHz. (use micron 128GB ECC RAM) Even the preinstalled 32GB 5.600 MHz Kit was running at 4.000 MHz I installed 2x Samsung 990 PRO 2 TB in the lower ports and only(!) in the upper ports HP allows 4 TB drives. This makes total of 12 TB on M.2. SSDs. BUT: i modded the lower ssds with a copper cooling plate with 0,5mm and use Artic Cooling TP3 thermal pads. The difference: SSD1 modded: RAM max 65 degrees Controller max 77 degrees SSD2 original: RAM max 73 degrees Controller 100 degrees All Pad replaced by Artic cooling Pads. Without modding I think it would not be able to run 12TB on SSDs.
Hi Andy, great to see you here with a preview of the up coming zbook. My only desire is that they'd come with an option of an 18 inch screen like the main large laptop producing manufacturers. If HP don't offer that, I'll have to go with Dell.
Thanks for the insightful review. I just hope that one day these "flagship" workstations can STOP BEING SO CONSERVATIVE with power consumption. People are buying the "Fury" purely for the performance. Most buyers simply don't care about the size and weight, because if they did, they would go for the ZBook Studio or other options. And yet the "Fury!!!" still comes with a 200W adapter, or 230W at best. It's like buying a $4000 Sony a7RV but only attaching a $400 low-end third-party lens to it, or driving a car with a top speed of 400km/h but electronically limited to 80km/h for maximum safety. The performance potential is completely wasted, just like my current Fury 17 G8. It's bigger than 16 G9/10 and equipped with an A5000 but this card uses 45W tops..... I can't believe this until I test it with GPU-Z. SERIOUSLY!!!! Am I really using a flagship workstation?? Such a power limit is no doubt a thumbs down for me. And they really should reconsider this misleading name "fury", because the fire and fury might be inside the users, not the laptop itself.
Thanks for the informative review (pre-view). I've purchased both the newest Asus ProArt 16 OLED (Xeon) and Gigabyte Aero 16 OLED (i9) and and not happy with the Thunderbolt4/USB4 Massive storage performance of either. I wonder in HP Workstations ( or Lenovo ) perform more reliably in that regard.
Be aware that the real world performance of a thunderbolt 4 connection is btw 2-3 gigabytes per second. Not to be confused with gigabits per second. A gen 4 SSD can do btw 5.5-7 gigabytes per second and is way faster than thunderbolt 4.
The RTX 6000 Ada is already out, but I'm not sure about the others. I'm not sure if mobile Ada generation cards are even out yet, but I bet we'll see them by the Fall if not sooner.
It seems Lenovo is also updating its workstation lineup. No changes to the designs but spec bumps. They are now using Ada Lovelace GPUs and Intel 13000 CPUs. I assume that AMD versions are going to use Zen 4.
Can you help me to choose laptop for ArchVIZ? This HP Zbook Fury 16 G10 or Dell Precision 7680? Both have same specs with GPU A5000 Ada. What laptop have better cooling/thermals because I usualy render set of pictures for cca 8 hours? Thanks!
Both are about the same. Neither are bleeding edge in terms of performance due to Bios power limits. If you don't mind CAMM memory, get the Dell. However, I'd choose HP for SODIMM memory and brighter screen.
I've just got one of these for work. An HP G10 with i9-13950HX Cpu. When it works on all cores the frequency hovers around 1,5-2GHz. Is this normal? Seems low to me.
I can't say for certain, but I do know that HP limits voltage to cpu's in their ZBooks when other brands crank it to the max. Second, be sure to use hardware info instead of task manager for more accurate readings.
@@andysilvers9532 I think I've got a lemon. I ran Cinebench R23 and got 9702 Multi core and 1430 single core. How can it be that bad? Do you know of any drivers that need to be installed? Could it be that I'm using windows 10(company enforced) and it's not playing well with the 13th gen intel?
@@audunskilbrei8279 Make sure to update the computer both through Windows and HP Support Assist. Make sure the device is plugged in and set to performance under Power settings. Yes, I do think the slowness is partly due to Windows 10. My ZBook got the highest score (just over 12,000) only once and that was while using Win 11. Yes, 9702 is shockingly low for that chip.
@@andysilvers9532 After plugging in the original charger I got 17710 multi core points. I had it plugged in an HP thunderbolt dock which has a barrel plug. It worked fine with the old HP workstation I had. But I discovered that the dock only had 200W supply which apparently wasn't enough. Would you say 17710 is in line with what I should expect from this machine?
Enjoying all your Zbook updates, Andy! I've owned HP workstation laptops before they were even called Zbooks, back when they began with "W" designation. Currently running a Fury G8. The Ada Lovelace update looks sweet.
Part of me regrets selling the Fury G8, but my Lenovo has so many great qualities.
Excellent review. Currently I await the verdict from my divisions VP upon the upgrade / update of my current laptop. We will most likely be going with either the G9 or G10. I would be happy with either to be honest (used for coding / DevOps and virtualization).
Good material. I'll look for some reviews like this in your channel, about precisions laptops. Thanks so much.
I haven't covered Dell laptops yet but maybe I will.
I got this Laptop too: a downer if you use dual rank ram the ram will work only at 3.600 MHz instead 4.800 MHz.
(use micron 128GB ECC RAM)
Even the preinstalled 32GB 5.600 MHz Kit was running at 4.000 MHz
I installed 2x Samsung 990 PRO 2 TB in the lower ports and only(!) in the upper ports HP allows 4 TB drives.
This makes total of 12 TB on M.2. SSDs.
BUT: i modded the lower ssds with a copper cooling plate with 0,5mm and use Artic Cooling TP3 thermal pads.
The difference:
SSD1 modded:
RAM max 65 degrees
Controller max 77 degrees
SSD2 original:
RAM max 73 degrees
Controller 100 degrees
All Pad replaced by Artic cooling Pads. Without modding I think it would not be able to run 12TB on SSDs.
Interesting.
Hi Andy, great to see you here with a preview of the up coming zbook. My only desire is that they'd come with an option of an 18 inch screen like the main large laptop producing manufacturers. If HP don't offer that, I'll have to go with Dell.
I understand. I bet they will at some point but for now 16 is all the rage.
Thanks for the insightful review. I just hope that one day these "flagship" workstations can STOP BEING SO CONSERVATIVE with power consumption. People are buying the "Fury" purely for the performance. Most buyers simply don't care about the size and weight, because if they did, they would go for the ZBook Studio or other options. And yet the "Fury!!!" still comes with a 200W adapter, or 230W at best. It's like buying a $4000 Sony a7RV but only attaching a $400 low-end third-party lens to it, or driving a car with a top speed of 400km/h but electronically limited to 80km/h for maximum safety. The performance potential is completely wasted, just like my current Fury 17 G8. It's bigger than 16 G9/10 and equipped with an A5000 but this card uses 45W tops..... I can't believe this until I test it with GPU-Z. SERIOUSLY!!!! Am I really using a flagship workstation?? Such a power limit is no doubt a thumbs down for me. And they really should reconsider this misleading name "fury", because the fire and fury might be inside the users, not the laptop itself.
Interesting point.
Thanks for the informative review (pre-view). I've purchased both the newest Asus ProArt 16 OLED (Xeon) and Gigabyte Aero 16 OLED (i9) and and not happy with the Thunderbolt4/USB4 Massive storage performance of either. I wonder in HP Workstations ( or Lenovo ) perform more reliably in that regard.
Please elaborate on the external drives your using
@@andysilvers9532 Lacie thunderbolt3 dock, Caldigit TB4, CalDigit TB4 mini, Buffalo (Pioneer) BD writer, Seagate FireCuda 2tb ssd portable storage, SanDisk Professional Pro Reader ... 2 Seagate 5TB portable HDD drives
Be aware that the real world performance of a thunderbolt 4 connection is btw 2-3 gigabytes per second. Not to be confused with gigabits per second. A gen 4 SSD can do btw 5.5-7 gigabytes per second and is way faster than thunderbolt 4.
Any idea when the workstation versions of the GPUs for Ada will come out?
Also, when will Lenovo and Dell update their workstation laptops?
The RTX 6000 Ada is already out, but I'm not sure about the others. I'm not sure if mobile Ada generation cards are even out yet, but I bet we'll see them by the Fall if not sooner.
It seems Lenovo is also updating its workstation lineup. No changes to the designs but spec bumps. They are now using Ada Lovelace GPUs and Intel 13000 CPUs. I assume that AMD versions are going to use Zen 4.
Can you help me to choose laptop for ArchVIZ? This HP Zbook Fury 16 G10 or Dell Precision 7680? Both have same specs with GPU A5000 Ada. What laptop have better cooling/thermals because I usualy render set of pictures for cca 8 hours? Thanks!
Both are about the same. Neither are bleeding edge in terms of performance due to Bios power limits. If you don't mind CAMM memory, get the Dell. However, I'd choose HP for SODIMM memory and brighter screen.
I've just got one of these for work. An HP G10 with i9-13950HX Cpu. When it works on all cores the frequency hovers around 1,5-2GHz. Is this normal? Seems low to me.
I can't say for certain, but I do know that HP limits voltage to cpu's in their ZBooks when other brands crank it to the max. Second, be sure to use hardware info instead of task manager for more accurate readings.
@@andysilvers9532 I think I've got a lemon. I ran Cinebench R23 and got 9702 Multi core and 1430 single core.
How can it be that bad? Do you know of any drivers that need to be installed? Could it be that I'm using windows 10(company enforced) and it's not playing well with the 13th gen intel?
@@audunskilbrei8279 Make sure to update the computer both through Windows and HP Support Assist. Make sure the device is plugged in and set to performance under Power settings. Yes, I do think the slowness is partly due to Windows 10. My ZBook got the highest score (just over 12,000) only once and that was while using Win 11. Yes, 9702 is shockingly low for that chip.
@@andysilvers9532 After plugging in the original charger I got 17710 multi core points.
I had it plugged in an HP thunderbolt dock which has a barrel plug. It worked fine with the old HP workstation I had. But I discovered that the dock only had 200W supply which apparently wasn't enough.
Would you say 17710 is in line with what I should expect from this machine?
Yeah that sounds about right. HP won't push their cpu's as hard as other brands to limit heat.
How funny HP equip this thick heavy machine with 5G option but not do the same with the thin light Zbook Studio
Yeah it's unfortunate but the thicker one does have more room for it.
@@andysilvers9532 who would bring this 2,5 kg laptop to coffee or travel?
@@Leonardo-hv6pu I agree. It's unfortunate. HP should have done it better.
Z 🤫 book) прикольный ноутбук, но из компактов говорят ещё Lenovo yoga 9i нормальный .
Yes but the 9i isn't a mobile workstation. It is nice though
Doesn't anything bother you about your Ruscism Z-logo on the lid of your laptop? The next one will be the Nazi swastika?
No. I'm from Russia so we're good.