The Cayman GT4 is now what the 911 used to be. A light tension inducing sports car, not a cruiser. And probably better balanced. Though the 911 is probably more suitable for 95% of driving times.
I think you're right. But the 911 (992) is more: it's sophisticated and connects fabulously with the heritage of it's previous generation. Which makes it an individual classic: like every 911
You're not having much fun on your commute. Just get a Camryollaccord for M-F. And get an offroad ready Crossover or pick up for the wife/family wagon. Sportscar for the weekend, date night, road trips, and trackdays.
@@underballbutter I think you solved it for me! I liked the GTS 4.0 much better but was leaning towards the 911 carrera 4 for more "dailiness". But hell, I should just daily in my truck or glb and save the weekend for the exciting stuff.
There is no basic 911 , 991 or 992 that I would trade my 981 GT4 for, even if the 911 “performance” is better. The 911 is a grand tourer while the GT4 is a proper sports car.
@@gazzabrownhigh8891 Have you owned one? On a first drive they feel long but you do get used to them. They are fine on track and on the road there's enough pull lower down in 3rd to get you around. Nobody drives around redlining every gear on the road, even if they were shorter. Ok so you don't get to use that wonderful gearbox as much as you'd like, but the rest of the driving experience more than makes up for it in my opinion.
You really wouldn’t take a 991.2 GT3RS? I would. And I want a 981 GT4! I’ve driven both and the cayman was much easier to drive. It was so fun and so balanced. But the RS was pure race car!
TheDaemon66 The 991.2 GT3 manual is the car to have (my favorite) , the RS is another level, but this video was a comparison against a regular Carrera.
If you've got a budget, go for the 718. If you've got money to spend, a fully decked out 911 is amazing. If money isn't an issue? Add both to your 12 car garage.
If you're the sort of person that really wants a track day car from Porsche at a much lower price point than a 911 GT3 or GT3 RS, the Cayman GT4 is ideal; if you're looking for a great DD with a less edgy feel, the 911 Carrera is the ticket. If you really must have +400hp, just opt for the Carrera S - I've driven it, and I assure you it's a sports car too. :)
I used to track my 991 base 911 and after two years of ownership I had decided to trade it in for a 981 gt4. Since then I never looked back. I’d probably do the same with the new generation of 911 and gt4.
I'd much rather have a manual Cayman. The new 991 is too safe, too easy, too big. Not even close in my mind. The new Cayman GTS 4.0 will be perfection with modified 2-3 gears
2020 Boxster Spyder (Speedster aesthetic, 6 cylinder/manual transmission) plus a Porsche Macan - for slightly more than the price of ONE: 911. Done & Done.
The Porsche Cayman with mid engine is the best design for a sports car back in 2006 when the 1 Cayman introduced too the public Walter Röhrl tested the Cayman S 987 on the circuit and was quicker as the 911 / 997 Carrera 🙈the Cayman has also the better design then the 911 hands down especially the first generation is amazing 😉
@@Xander7777777777 Hit the nail on the head. I don't believe either car is "better" than the other. It's all about what's important to you. If backseats and superior interior are important to you, then the 911 is an easy decision.
I'm currently on a short list for the new Spyder here in Canada. I have put a deposit down at two dealers. The first one that puts me on their allocation list I'll get me deposit back from the other.
This is a no brainer decision and not tough at all. If what matters is the driving experience and taking personal circumstances aside the GT4 is The Car
Love the 911 but love the 718 even more, saving my coins for the 718 Spyder when they finally ditch that dated interior from 2012 981 for the 21 release.
When the GT4 and the Boxster Spyder came out in 2016 with the 911S 3.8 liter flat 6, I opted for one vs the 911S. The 2016 Cayman series were both incredible sports cars, and their sport exhaust systems were not encumbered with the newly required particulate filter, so they howled and popped like a proper Porsche flat six should. Yes they have long gearing; maybe one day Porsche will stop protecting their rear engined flagship 911s, because otherwise the mid-engined Caymans would be the obvious choice. That said, for folks wanting that extra .5 second 0-60 reduction, the 911, with its lower gearing, will always win, and hence the cost margins between the two will continue to increase Porsche’s bottom line. But I wanted the Cayman series car, and here’s why; I wasn’t going to track the car, I wanted a fabulous, lightweight (2850 lbs), high performance mid engined car that had sport suspension, torque vectoring, huge brakes, and manual 6-speed. I decided on the Spyder simply because I didn’t like the boy-racer wing bolted to the rear deck of the GT4; again I wasn’t going to track the car, and to me the spoiler looks garish. And I can put the top down! I will never regret my decision, and I’m personally convinced that Porsche has never built better overall sports cars than the Cayman GT4/Spyder series.
I'd take the GTS - And of course the Cayman is based on the Boxster which is also a brilliant car, but the shell stiffens that up even further. I want a coupe and I want a Manual gearbox.. . No massive spoilers everywhere or crunching ride height. No, I want a road car, one with a 4000cc engine - One I can spec full leather on and one I can do the occasional track day with (Watch Mark Webber driving a GTS on track) And yes the 992 Carrera could also appeal for long continent crushing journeys where you can just relax (If it wasn't for the loud road noise coming from the tyres (Harrys Garage)) - Oh hell I think I'll just stick with my 2.9 Gen 2 987, it does 90% of all that and at a fraction of the cost.
I don't have GT4 money but I bought a CPO 2018 Cayman base for exactly the same reason. It has a wonderful chassis and it's really fun and engaging to toss around on a back road.
My choice too Dan perfect timing of review - engagement at low speed is vital to the sports car experience, would be keen for you to rest Gt4 v gts cayman 4L ! I’m thinking of trading my m3 Comp for one.
Its horses for courses. I only have parking for one car, so I can't afford to have a car that I can't use all the time. The Cayman is a weekend toy, so I'll take the 911 thanks. Or maybe a Golf.
Just took delivery of my GT4, must say this is a real drivers car, the thrill of the ride is amazing, never a dull moment. The street cred is way better than the 911, in racing yellow with the black contrast is a real eye catcher
Best option is to get a pristine low miles 981 GT4 for $90-100K US. It's got the more reliable and better sounding 3.8L, and you save a save $30-40K over either of these.
I have a 2018 SL63, and I had a guy in a newer or new cayman come up behind me and wanted to go, I dont know why ... it was a straight line, and he learned a lesson pretty quickly, but on the track he would dust me Im sure, my SL is too heavy and oversteers under hard driving.. But in a straight line not much can take it apart from some real exotics or a turbo or turbo S of course : )
I was disappointed Porsche didn't shorten the transmission gear ratios in this updated GT4. I think everyone who reviewed the 2016 981 GT4 mentioned how much difference in driving excitement, such an improvement would make.
@@Dathumm I've heard insiders say this is Porsche's stance... "The 911 must produce the most impressive marketing numbers." I've owned two 911s but I think that's a shame. I hope to have a GT4 one day as well. If they would really cut loose with the Cayman in the GT program, who knows how much they could shake up other mid engine designs.?.
Should be possible to change final drive ratio by changing differential gears, but idk if there are available any. Would definitely look at that option after buying gt4 ;
The GT4 is more sporty but also more cartoonish, especially in the more garish colors. So gentlemen may pause on the purchase. The 911 is more sophisticated and buttoned down but sadly a little heavier than years past. The GT4 is a weekend car. The 911 is your corporate steed and looks good pulling up to the steakhouse.
The way he framed it (which is how I’d frame the question btw), it’s not even close. The new 911 has become a GT.....if you want a sports car buy a 997 or earlier in the 911 lifecycle. The cayman/boxster - however - are sports cars. And in this speci - ditch the ceramic brakes and the optional seats if the cost needs to be managed (actually, I’d forgo them independently of cost)
@@MrStubbs8157 lol, used ones are probably well sorted under warranty. Stop looking - go drive one and experience the difference, or DON'T if you only want a sports car and not a proper SUPER car
Though not mentioned here, it’s commonly known that the factory intentionally set the gear ratios so the GT4 would fully kick the arse of Porsche’s cash cow 911. Thus the afternoon market transmissions for the GT4 that make it the car the factory chose not to.
Do the longer gear ratios relate to loss of performance? I guess that answer depends on vehicle weight and engine torque... now what I’m about to give as an example may not hold true to the real world but in simulated driving/racing I’ve seen the factory gear box put down faster lap times on certain tracks. Does this hold true to the real world? I have no idea.... just an observation. Porsche factory engineers selected those ratios for a reason. My real life car is a C6Z06 Corvette. The sim version of the car does have a familiar feeling to the real thing. Away, just an observation that may not have any merit at all. But someone at Porsche selected those gear ratios.... what was the reason? In the sim, closer/shorter ratios were a little slower. Again, not real world results.... but who knows?
Could the long ratios be related to the unrestricted speed on much of the German autobahn network? My 2003 Mini Cooper S allegedly goes to 45 mph in 1st gear and 71 mph in 2nd, which feels weird on UK roads.
You can easily find base Cayman for that money, even with warranty... www.autoscout24.com/offers/porsche-cayman-s-20-carrera-s-rad-sound-package-plus-sportabgas-gasoline-blue-e154c8a4-b495-42df-a641-b63890a291a6?cldtidx=11
Interesting colour on the yellow, in this video most videos on youtube over saturate the racing yellow - your one looks more like i expect it to look, do you think your video, a lot lot lighter yellow than others, is the true colour?
GT4 should be the better investment right? Cargurus US has a few 2016 GT4s around $90,000. There's only one true base Carrera near me but it's in the low $70,000 range...
Dan, you're very well spoken, with great diction n' vocab. How often do you hear expressions like "pin sharp" or "imperious"? Plus all the fundamentals were covered - engine, trans, chassis, dynamics n' the everyday considerations. But, that huge blunder in the middle of the review! " Give you a proper thump up the backside!" (5:46) What? How could you ever, ever say such a thing with a straight face on the internet? Fail.
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The Cayman GT4 is now what the 911 used to be. A light tension inducing sports car, not a cruiser. And probably better balanced. Though the 911 is probably more suitable for 95% of driving times.
"So where should we film this video?"
"I was thinking of parking those two expensive cars in the mud."
Sandouras - Testing off road capabilities 😉
Sandouras 😄
718 GTS 4.0, new sweet spot of Porsche range probably.
Too bad it still looks like a boxster. That really ruins the whole thing
@@zissou6928 The Cayman looks like a boxster?
9enius it’s not a like Boxster - it is the Boxster.
@n s not this generation. Same exact platform now. At least in gt4 and Spyder variants
it's true when that few thousand dollars really matter to you
There's something very appealing about the understatedness of that 911
But the GT3 parts in the GT4 are more appealing.
@@neokgatla nothing bas been more true🙏,oh and btw Alex Morrison you still do😂
Yes But nobody can say what it is !
I think you're right. But the 911 (992) is more: it's sophisticated and connects fabulously with the heritage of it's previous generation. Which makes it an individual classic: like every 911
I must be a natural show off, as everytime I saw the 911 after the gt4 I felt a slight sense of deflation and disappointment 🤷
Two very different cars with a different focus and appeal! Monday-Friday-911, Sat & Sun-Gt4! 👍
Life’s short.... GT4 EVERY SINGLE DAY....
You're not having much fun on your commute. Just get a Camryollaccord for M-F. And get an offroad ready Crossover or pick up for the wife/family wagon. Sportscar for the weekend, date night, road trips, and trackdays.
@@underballbutter I think you solved it for me! I liked the GTS 4.0 much better but was leaning towards the 911 carrera 4 for more "dailiness". But hell, I should just daily in my truck or glb and save the weekend for the exciting stuff.
There is no basic 911 , 991 or 992 that I would trade my 981 GT4 for, even if the 911 “performance” is better. The 911 is a grand tourer while the GT4 is a proper sports car.
jhrodriguez08 cayman chassis is glorious. I had both at once and the cayman was so much more tossable and confident
gearing is way too long on GT4 !
@@gazzabrownhigh8891 Have you owned one? On a first drive they feel long but you do get used to them. They are fine on track and on the road there's enough pull lower down in 3rd to get you around. Nobody drives around redlining every gear on the road, even if they were shorter. Ok so you don't get to use that wonderful gearbox as much as you'd like, but the rest of the driving experience more than makes up for it in my opinion.
You really wouldn’t take a 991.2 GT3RS? I would. And I want a 981 GT4!
I’ve driven both and the cayman was much easier to drive. It was so fun and so balanced. But the RS was pure race car!
TheDaemon66 The 991.2 GT3 manual is the car to have (my favorite) , the RS is another level, but this video was a comparison against a regular Carrera.
If you've got a budget, go for the 718. If you've got money to spend, a fully decked out 911 is amazing. If money isn't an issue? Add both to your 12 car garage.
love to see a test between GT4 and Exige 410
New Cayman GTS 4.0 as a few have said already - best of both worlds and a saving of £20k. I’ll go old school and take mine in Aventurine green! 👌🏻
If you're the sort of person that really wants a track day car from Porsche at a much lower price point than a 911 GT3 or GT3 RS, the Cayman GT4 is ideal; if you're looking for a great DD with a less edgy feel, the 911 Carrera is the ticket. If you really must have +400hp, just opt for the Carrera S - I've driven it, and I assure you it's a sports car too. :)
I used to track my 991 base 911 and after two years of ownership I had decided to trade it in for a 981 gt4. Since then I never looked back. I’d probably do the same with the new generation of 911 and gt4.
I'd much rather have a manual Cayman. The new 991 is too safe, too easy, too big. Not even close in my mind. The new Cayman GTS 4.0 will be perfection with modified 2-3 gears
I really do wish they'd compare cayman and Carrera more often in reviews - I need to know what I'm aiming for in life :P
Agree 100% :)
2020 Boxster Spyder
(Speedster aesthetic,
6 cylinder/manual transmission)
plus a Porsche Macan -
for slightly more than
the price of ONE: 911.
Done & Done.
I've just taken delivery of a 718 spyder. 100% agree on all these points. Just make sure you have another car for your daily driver.
why another car for the daily? 🤔
Great video Dan! Can we see a 718 GTS 4.0 review soon? Maybe with a comparison to the old 981 GTS?
this guy does a great job at reviewing cars.
The “Motor” 🤣. Got a new motor John. Engine.
Turbo - NO
PDK - NO
NA - YES
Manual- YES
GT4 -YES
Bigger is not better - its a sports car.
The Porsche Cayman with mid engine is the best design for a sports car back in 2006 when the 1 Cayman introduced too the public Walter Röhrl tested the Cayman S 987 on the circuit and was quicker as the 911 / 997 Carrera 🙈the Cayman has also the better design then the 911 hands down especially the first generation is amazing 😉
Nicely equipped base carrera is around 127,000.. 😳😳 not that long ago 100k could get you a really nice sports car
Of course the GT4. There is not even a contest.
So did you get one ? Nochmals GT Silbermetallic ?
@@kizmaiaz7671 Yes. I went with almost the same spec as with the GTS, so GT Silver again.
GT4 will hold its value better than the base Carrera.
There is if you have kids to take around with you, like me :-)
@@Xander7777777777 Hit the nail on the head. I don't believe either car is "better" than the other. It's all about what's important to you. If backseats and superior interior are important to you, then the 911 is an easy decision.
Hard to believe these Porsche products are getting better and better EVERY time! Proper review Dan!
I'm currently on a short list for the new Spyder here in Canada. I have put a deposit down at two dealers. The first one that puts me on their allocation list I'll get me deposit back from the other.
This is a no brainer decision and not tough at all. If what matters is the driving experience and taking personal circumstances aside the GT4 is The Car
I’m not in the market for such a car but I would take the new cayman gts 4.0 every day of the week and twice on sundays without even testdriving it.
You guys must be sick of all that rain you have to deal with!
I hardly ever see a car presentation in GB without rain.
I own a 2020 Spyder and hate the roof. If I had to reorder I would get the GTS.
David, besides the silly roof. Any other reasons to get the GTS? I have 981 S and thinking of upgrading but not sure if it’s worth it.
@@jhan4915 I really enjoy the Spyder but hate the roof. It looks great and drives great as well. Good luck on your future purchase. CHEERS!
Thanks for the great review. I'm happy I picked the right car which is a 2020 Spyder. I would have chosen a 911 however I don't want a PDK.
Real food for thought here. I'm not a young ace anymore so I find myself leaning towards the 911. Oy. Old age has arrived 😅.
Take the new cayman gts 4.o litres
Love the 911 but love the 718 even more, saving my coins for the 718 Spyder when they finally ditch that dated interior from 2012 981 for the 21 release.
Agreed... the only reason stopping me from getting 718 over 911 is that over decade old interior...
Just subscribed , as soon as I saw it was the dude from the evo channel
I’d take the cayman I think 🤔
When the GT4 and the Boxster Spyder came out in 2016 with the 911S 3.8 liter flat 6, I opted for one vs the 911S. The 2016 Cayman series were both incredible sports cars, and their sport exhaust systems were not encumbered with the newly required particulate filter, so they howled and popped like a proper Porsche flat six should. Yes they have long gearing; maybe one day Porsche will stop protecting their rear engined flagship 911s, because otherwise the mid-engined Caymans would be the obvious choice. That said, for folks wanting that extra .5 second 0-60 reduction, the 911, with its lower gearing, will always win, and hence the cost margins between the two will continue to increase Porsche’s bottom line. But I wanted the Cayman series car, and here’s why; I wasn’t going to track the car, I wanted a fabulous, lightweight (2850 lbs), high performance mid engined car that had sport suspension, torque vectoring, huge brakes, and manual 6-speed. I decided on the Spyder simply because I didn’t like the boy-racer wing bolted to the rear deck of the GT4; again I wasn’t going to track the car, and to me the spoiler looks garish. And I can put the top down! I will never regret my decision, and I’m personally convinced that Porsche has never built better overall sports cars than the Cayman GT4/Spyder series.
I opted to buy both
I absolutely love 992 more it is like a spacecraft, but it is too mature for me, I'm 30. I will take the GT4
When spouting out so many numbers and integers, I wish they'd print them on the screen when stating them.
New Cayman GTS just announced should be great and cheaper entry to a flat six
I'd take the GTS - And of course the Cayman is based on the Boxster which is also a brilliant car, but the shell stiffens that up even further. I want a coupe and I want a Manual gearbox.. . No massive spoilers everywhere or crunching ride height. No, I want a road car, one with a 4000cc engine - One I can spec full leather on and one I can do the occasional track day with (Watch Mark Webber driving a GTS on track) And yes the 992 Carrera could also appeal for long continent crushing journeys where you can just relax (If it wasn't for the loud road noise coming from the tyres (Harrys Garage)) - Oh hell I think I'll just stick with my 2.9 Gen 2 987, it does 90% of all that and at a fraction of the cost.
The engine of the 911 nowadays is more on the rear axle then behind it
Great review, got a new subscriber. Brave man driving in the rain with those Cups
I don't have GT4 money but I bought a CPO 2018 Cayman base for exactly the same reason. It has a wonderful chassis and it's really fun and engaging to toss around on a back road.
Throw used values into the equation and the GT4 may make a stronger case still for itself. Certainly not in yellow though.
dude i hadn't seen you're videos in a while !!!! missed your reviews
GT4 every single day of the week!!
Curious if having a manual in the 911 would up the engagement factor enough to be the better car to own?
The GT4 just looks a lot better anyways and it is still fast enough.
My choice too Dan perfect timing of review - engagement at low speed is vital to the sports car experience, would be keen for you to rest Gt4 v gts cayman 4L ! I’m thinking of trading my m3 Comp for one.
I wish Porsche would just develop the Cayman to its full potential like the 911. Instead of holding it back in fear of it being better than the 911.
Its horses for courses. I only have parking for one car, so I can't afford to have a car that I can't use all the time. The Cayman is a weekend toy, so I'll take the 911 thanks. Or maybe a Golf.
Wow great point. I cant afford either one, so I'll go with a camry lol
Just took delivery of my GT4, must say this is a real drivers car, the thrill of the ride is amazing, never a dull moment. The street cred is way better than the 911, in racing yellow with the black contrast is a real eye catcher
911 until my kids are gone. Then GT4. Now hopefully all I need is my inheritance. 😉
Strange comparison, as those cars are for different purposes, but ok.
Gt4 ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best option is to get a pristine low miles 981 GT4 for $90-100K US. It's got the more reliable and better sounding 3.8L, and you save a save $30-40K over either of these.
I have a 2018 SL63, and I had a guy in a newer or new cayman come up behind me and wanted to go, I dont know why ... it was a straight line, and he learned a lesson pretty quickly, but on the track he would dust me Im sure, my SL is too heavy and oversteers under hard driving.. But in a straight line not much can take it apart from some real exotics or a turbo or turbo S of course : )
Doesn't your SL63 run 12s+ 1/4? old GTS, GTS 4.0 and GT4 with PDK all run mid 11s
Good job lad. You are a good presenter. On the money.
I was disappointed Porsche didn't shorten the transmission gear ratios in this updated GT4. I think everyone who reviewed the 2016 981 GT4 mentioned how much difference in driving excitement, such an improvement would make.
I agree but if Porsche had shorten the ratios of the Spyder and GT4 (981/718) would get to close to the 911.
@@Dathumm I've heard insiders say this is Porsche's stance... "The 911 must produce the most impressive marketing numbers." I've owned two 911s but I think that's a shame. I hope to have a GT4 one day as well. If they would really cut loose with the Cayman in the GT program, who knows how much they could shake up other mid engine designs.?.
Completley agree!
Should be possible to change final drive ratio by changing differential gears, but idk if there are available any. Would definitely look at that option after buying gt4 ;
I've gotten used to the roof of the nest Spyder however I prefer the power roof of my 2009 Porsche Boxster S.
First time I see car review like a Wine review. Really articulating the nuances
The GT4 is more sporty but also more cartoonish, especially in the more garish colors. So gentlemen may pause on the purchase. The 911 is more sophisticated and buttoned down but sadly a little heavier than years past. The GT4 is a weekend car. The 911 is your corporate steed and looks good pulling up to the steakhouse.
The House of Steak.
Hate the opf exhaust filters in the new gt4- the 981 gt4 sounded so much more epic than this version
Great comparison, I’ll take both please
The way he framed it (which is how I’d frame the question btw), it’s not even close. The new 911 has become a GT.....if you want a sports car buy a 997 or earlier in the 911 lifecycle. The cayman/boxster - however - are sports cars.
And in this speci - ditch the ceramic brakes and the optional seats if the cost needs to be managed (actually, I’d forgo them independently of cost)
Love the Porsche content! I've subscribed for more Porsche content please?!
Great explanation of perspective on these two cars.
718 GT4 is good but not great. Long gearing and quiet engine. The 981 GT4 and 918 Boxster Spyder are good value now.
First time here and compared with 'carwow', this channel is 'street's ahead' in its more mature, natural and concise delivery. Big thumbs-up 👍
Great reviews from DP. New sub
Would buy a used Mclaren 570S over both of these. Proper SUPERcar versus nice Porsche SPORTS cars
Not a used one...they are falling apart when just looking at them.
@@MrStubbs8157 lol, used ones are probably well sorted under warranty. Stop looking - go drive one and experience the difference, or DON'T if you only want a sports car and not a proper SUPER car
Agreed more exciting even if not necessarily more sorted out
Can U get rid of the particulat filters...?? Aftermarket stuff, anyone....??
Though not mentioned here, it’s commonly known that the factory intentionally set the gear ratios so the GT4 would fully kick the arse of Porsche’s cash cow 911. Thus the afternoon market transmissions for the GT4 that make it the car the factory chose not to.
I'm going with the GT4 as well
Here’s a point nobody talks about: first gen cayman looks like new Carreras with ROUND headlights!
The base 991 used to come with 19” wheels. Better than 20’s in my opinion.
I want both
I keep yelling out “watch out! You are on the wrong side of the road!”
LOL! I know! Drove around Great Britain for 2 weeks several years back. I had to constantly remind myself to stay in the WRONG lane.
Sorry for the 'B' division Porsche, it's never been a looker like big brother! Nicely compared review tho.
Great review 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Great review. Out of curiosity, - in the 911 - what did you do with the passenger seat? I didn't see it.
Also the size of 911 992. That thing is huge, even compared to 997, which is not great on many B roads.
PDK left leg comment isn’t he’s new alpine a semi auto also?
Brilliant review, on point!
No comparison, regarding price. We all know the GT4 will never be available at the stated RRP. Porsche dealers want over 100,000k for these models.
Do the longer gear ratios relate to loss of performance? I guess that answer depends on vehicle weight and engine torque... now what I’m about to give as an example may not hold true to the real world but in simulated driving/racing I’ve seen the factory gear box put down faster lap times on certain tracks. Does this hold true to the real world? I have no idea.... just an observation. Porsche factory engineers selected those ratios for a reason. My real life car is a C6Z06 Corvette. The sim version of the car does have a familiar feeling to the real thing. Away, just an observation that may not have any merit at all. But someone at Porsche selected those gear ratios.... what was the reason? In the sim, closer/shorter ratios were a little slower. Again, not real world results.... but who knows?
Could the long ratios be related to the unrestricted speed on much of the German autobahn network?
My 2003 Mini Cooper S allegedly goes to 45 mph in 1st gear and 71 mph in 2nd, which feels weird on UK roads.
RichardADastardly - long ratios would help reduce fuel consumption at autobahn speeds Im guessing.
I wish Porsche would make a basic Cayman/ Boxter for like 40k. Boxer 6, 6 speed, nice seats, Heat and AC! I'd be driving one!
You can easily find base Cayman for that money, even with warranty...
www.autoscout24.com/offers/porsche-cayman-s-20-carrera-s-rad-sound-package-plus-sportabgas-gasoline-blue-e154c8a4-b495-42df-a641-b63890a291a6?cldtidx=11
@@Angry-Lynx Porsche will never be the car for everyone.
UGH! Kills me to see him park the GT4 in the mud. He should of put rose petals down first.
I'd have the gt4. Better balance, better looking and designed primarily as a sports car
Interesting colour on the yellow, in this video most videos on youtube over saturate the racing yellow - your one looks more like i expect it to look, do you think your video, a lot lot lighter yellow than others, is the true colour?
Dan must have driven this yellow GT4 so much by now.
Being in a Porsche dealership with a comfortable budget is probably the best first world problem
GT4 should be the better investment right? Cargurus US has a few 2016 GT4s around $90,000. There's only one true base Carrera near me but it's in the low $70,000 range...
For some reason I keep waiting for a head on collision.
I like this guy but every video I watch of his the weather is absolutely appalling. Maybe some forward planning may be required
Of course the GT4. One extra reason - residuals!
The old GT4 is dropping in price like a brick (in the states anyway) and for good reason.
Great review thank you. My 981 is still a keeper 😜 ATB Peter
an APR tuned 4cylinder 718 will be quicker to 60 than the gt4... worse sound for sure but might be a cheaper alternative to the gt4 and 911
That 992 backlight looks bad would prefer 991.2
The 991 tail lights are pure art
Dan, if excitement trumps usability then the Exige 410 must surely be the next test for the GT4?
base wheels on carrera?
Dan, you're very well spoken, with great diction n' vocab. How often do you hear expressions like "pin sharp" or "imperious"? Plus all the fundamentals were covered - engine, trans, chassis, dynamics n' the everyday considerations. But, that huge blunder in the middle of the review! " Give you a proper thump up the backside!" (5:46) What? How could you ever, ever say such a thing with a straight face on the internet? Fail.
I know it’s in the rain and on a B road but I mean you could have said a word or two about how they compare power wise....
718 Spyder for me