I'm sad to say that I thought you just stopped making content some years ago. Hell I didn't know that even Benzaie was still around. But, if nothing else, I'm glad that finding out about everything you and the others went through led me to rediscover your content. Good to know you're still creating content Marzgurl. Guess I've got some videos to marathon. xD
i know right? i am currently looking to find all my old favorites and seing where they are now, in the end the thing that made TGWTG great was the producers, not the website.
What's even more sad is that even after the doc was released, many fans are still loyal to CA. Their excuse is "Well that's pretty much every company! Suck it up, snowflake!" Ughh some people......
For the record I'm no fan of soyboys, cat ladies, crayonheads, and scumbag commies always screaming 'muh racism', 'muh sexism', 'Drumpf REEEEE' or any other bullshit they and their ilk engage in. With that said, this is not another case of SJWs crying wolf because the evidence is so overwhelming and LordKat, Amazing Atheist, and a few others has been talking about this bullshit for a few years. Now it's come to the limelight and CA and that freshly circumcised dick Michaud is finally getting his. "Suck it up, snowflake"? Really you dick riding cucks? This situation is a textbook example of how NOT to run a production company. Fucking rank amateurs!
Reminds me of the Logan Paul forest video. I remember watching it before it really gained notoriety and thought it was absolutely horrid and yet I remember seeing this exact kind of comment, something like "Look at all these snowflakes in the comments section." I honestly can't believe people would act this way.
Kyle is my friend's brother and I was just sent the document this morning. Just have to say, I respect the shit out of you, even never having seen your content before this video. So few people are willing to share that level of vulnerability and honesty on the internet, and your dedication to presenting yourself authentically is a breath of fresh air. Much love to you and all the producers standing up against mistreatment in the industry.
Reading Channel Awesome's response is what made me unsubscribe. That is some defensive bully double talk, right there. Marzgurl, I'm sorry you had to go through this.
That public apology reads like a laundry list of stock phrases that a company uses when they want to save face as fast as possible without actually accepting blame for anything, as you said. I already knew that site was run very unprofessionally and was nothing more than some guys broadcasting out of their closet, but such a blatant disregard for other people's well-being is really pathetic. Also, "this is my jam" is going to be my go-to phrase whenever I wanna be really deliberately condescending to someone's cliche'd, insincere sob story about why they won't accept blame for something. "What's that? He claims his history of sexual abusing minors was linked to a mental illness? Aw, that's my jam right there!!"
Robogabriel Also, I've taken PR/classes that discuss how to apologize. At the top of list of things not to say: "I'm sorry you feel that way/I'm sorry anyone was offended."
Robogabriel oh it is definitely that. I’m just saying that’s it the type of thing they teach one to say to “avoid lawsuits.” They used to teach the same technique in nursing school, as part of “never admit fault”. Thankfully, I think they are starting to move away from that.
-Reads entire 70 page doc. -Reads CA statement I wanted to remain subscribed if only because I wanted to at least support Malcolm and Tamara...but no. CA loses a subscriber at this point, MarzGurl gains one.
Malcolm and Tamara have their own youtube channels (GohakuX and tamaralynnchambers), I personally went and unsubbed to CA, and subbed to their induvidual channels even if the content they post there isnt quite the same. I could honestly have remained subbed to Doug/Rob if it wasnt for Michaud. From what I saw the Walkers aren't bad enough that I could get into protest-unsub-drama, but man, everything I read about that Michaud guy just makes me wanna slam the unsub button so damn fast.
i can only guess that tamara and malcom are in the elites as well. I mean i cant imagine they wouldnt be since they are prodominant on the site and can literaly be at any shoot that doug or rob need them in
I feel so sorry that they alongside Walter, Ayanna, Jim and Heather have to stay there. Not to mention how Brad must feel considering he's still friends with the Walkers and Allison and Phelan, that must suck for him.
Thank you, MarzGurl. This has been the final push I've needed to quit watching Nostalgia Critic. It hasn't been funny in years, but I still come back like an addict occasionally. I think I can now quit for good.
Hey MarzGurl, as someone who's watched your content since the early days of Channel Awesome, I have to say that I'm glad that you're standing up for your fellow content producers in this thing against CA. You're doing a great thing and a lot of people appreciate you all doing this, so thank you.
I remember wanting to be a part of the site for YEARS. With this, the toxic forum community, the Metokur videos, and the fascinating manifesto you guys put together, I am so glad I didn't get involved in this mess! I give you guys massive respect for exposing Channel Awesome and the shady practices you all had to deal with. Godspeed to your future endeavours, Kaylyn! Best regards, -CynicalPundit (formerly known as ThatCriticalJew)
ULGROTHA Fam, if you have the ambition to make the series, go for it. Work hard at it and don't just do it for a company that's gonna double penetrate you like CA. Do it for the sake of passion and building YOUR OWN audience.
I've wanted to join CA/TGWTG for years, but I figured that it'd be hell to juggle college obligations, my music, job hunting and content creation And, after hearing what happened on the set of To Boldly Flee, I'm kinda glad I didn't, though I wish I saw Phelous and Rob screaming at each other in the parking lot of a Best Western over second unit scheduling
Sad thing is, the reason why TGWTG was so loved was because it showed what people with little could do and those who wanted to be a part of it wanted to grow alongside them. Sadly not only was their growth slow and pretty much non-existent but they also seemed to go out of their way to hinder the growth of the other content providers they were suppose to help.
ULGROTHA If it makes you feel any better, 2009 was around the time I wanted to do my own web review series because of CA. So far I've finished just the pilot and that's it XD
ULGROTHA My pilot? Yeah, it's on my YT channel as "Into the Mouse Hole" - sort of a historical video analysis series on Disney. Still have been working on episode 2 for a solid year and a half XD
Autumnsfantasy Even something as non-committal as “we’re sorry *we made* you feel that way” would have been better. At least that takes some basic level of responsibility.
Thank you to all who contributed to the document "Not So Awesome," the information was eye opening. The people who left TGWTG were what made it awesome.
What gets me is Doug walker's first video is when he walked into his other big corporate job , with music playing stood on a chair ripped his shirt open and I quit written on his chest. Now he's become that very corporate , ironic isn't it ?😂
Jeez, I knew it was bad but I had no idea just HOW MANY of the people I respect and admire were affected by this nonsense! I’m so sorry this happened to everyone and I’m glad most of you are finding your feet on your own! The fallout from the Wild West days of the “Internet Personality” is far reaching and I hope this is the end of it for all of you. Nothing but happy trails and successes for you in the days ahead!
"we regret you felt that way" is the most egotistical backhand of all time. sounds more like rob than doug (based on their brother series of movie reviews) but i'm sure they all reviewed and ok'd it.
Damn, I've missed you marzgurl . Im really sorry about all the shit you guys went through. You all got me through some really hard times and I would be honored to contribute in any way that I can
Marzgurl, I dumped them when you left and I was only gratified when Louis left recently. I began to suspect how bad the situation was when Noah was suspended back in the day, but lately I have been utterly gratified for dumping his page. I unsubscribed from his channel a loooong time ago, and have felt no need to visit the official page in months. Doug and his little "channel" became drunk with power a long time ago and it saddens me to see the state that he and his "channel" have slid into. I was a huge fan at one point, and it was a fun experiment, but it is obviously going to die a slow death if they don't make some major course corrections. Thank you, Marzgurl, for continuing on; I love your Super Sentai reviews, thoroughly enjoyed your SlimFast reviews (I, myself, have been doing the men's program), and I eagerly look forward to all of the content you post. I hope you never stop and that, perhaps, someday I can thank you in person. Cheers!
Honestly, another thing that’s kind of tragic is that Channel Awesome really had some potential, and because it was mismanaged SO HORRIBLY (by Mike Michaud ruining everything he touched and Doug and Rob being arrogant amateurs unwilling to ask for professional guidance) we will never really knew what Channel Awesome could’ve been had this Michaud guy never been involved with the enterprise?
Good to see you on here, I'm one of the old timers and I am glad to see you guys are doing alright on your own, you have my full support and viewership :)
I've always thought the behind-the-scenes drama was so sad. This should have been an opportunity to clean some shit up and maybe get a redemption arc going. But, no, just more sad drama. At least Linkara has finally been set free. I really hope he reconnects with Spoony, I feel like he could really help the guy out with his depression and so on.
I'm not going on Channel Awesome any longer. I lost all respect for Doug and the gang after hearing about all this drama that has been going on, and I am sorry for all that stuff that happened to you! (To think I wanted to work with Doug Walker someday...)
Thank you for saying this and for all of the years of great enjoyment you've blessed us with - I've enjoyed your content since you were on CA and I'm really sad things have gone this way but appreciate your honest response and look forward to seeing what you do in the future!
Marzgurl, im actually not a huge fan of your content. I don't like anime too much and I don't play videogames. But ever since you appeared on Channel Awesome years ago I've been rooting for you 100%. I love your personality and your voice is just so well needed such a male dominated niche. Because of all this BS I actually thought you stopped producing videos years ago. I'm so SO happy to see you have a TH-cam channel and are streaming, that you're well and you're still putting content out there for your fans!! I wish you nothing but success, no more stress, and you've got one more subscriber!
I didn't read every account in that doc, but I read yours, Allison's, Lewis', and Lindsey's. I had no idea things were that terrible. I had heard rumblings, but nothing like that. I can only say that I'm sorry for what you had to go through. My hope is that you will hold on to the positive relationships that you made through Channel Awesome. That response sounded very EA-ish. Very much corporate PR fluff. Of course they will never admit to any wrong doing, nor do I expect that they will actually do anything to change.
I read the document a few days ago, MarzGurl, and while I'd known there were some bad business practices on TGWTG, I never knew just how bad it was, how widely it reached, and also I never knew how badly you were treated, specifically. I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I'm not sure what to say, as I don't know what sentiment would be considered appropriate, but I at least wish you the very best in the future.
Their response was arrogant, conceited and only made in an attempt to protect their wallets. Make no mistake, the truly awesome ones are yourself and your fellow content creators who had the courage to speak out against CA. We, the audience, are firmly standing with you as we are showing with our unsubscriptions. You have nothing to apologise for. Stay strong and know that you have our utmost respect and support.
Thank you Marzgirl you’ve given me a lot of much needed insight and it’s good to see you again. PS I’m excited to see you are reviewing super sentai I’ll see you on twitch
the best thing that came out of #changethechannel is, after pretty much 5 years of what i thought was an ended era, i get to rediscover so many of my old internet heroes n' heroines actually found themself a better platform. i'm so glad to see that you're still making content MarzGurl, seems like i have plenty of catching up to do.
I really am appreciative to you and to other former CA workers like Holly and Allison etc. for opening up about this. As unaware bout this stuff that's been going on, I am sorry that CA have mistreated you. I still have a dream of becoming an internet reviewer and talk about things i like and dislike regarding movies, games, books etc. and from hearing all this stuff that CA have done, I am glad I didn't even consider signing up. As for the 3 people involved, I have never heard of Michard, but i can tell he is a nasty bit of work. As for Doug and Rob. I'm surprised at their actions too, I have watched Nostalgia Critic thanks to a good school friend of mine and his show I always thought was hilarious, AND I can thank Doug because if it weren't for him and the crossovers, I would never have videos from yourself, from Allison, from Phelan and from Lewis. In fact, I'd watch more of all your stuff since IMO the NC has faltered over the years. And I do think you're an inspiration to wannabe internet critics like myself and I sincerely apologize that I haven't discovered you sooner. I love your Twitch streams, It gives me a chance to interact with you because from videos and crossovers I have seen, You're a really cool and sweet lady!! And I'll try and keep up with your content :) But I'm getting ahead of myself here, Keep doing what you love doing, Forget bout the shit that CA have given to you and the other producers and do what YOU do best :) you have a huge community of fans supporting you and we will be supporting you for as long as it takes :) You're awesome, good on you for opening up and #ChangetheChannel
What the fuck? When did Channel Awesome start making enough money to afford EA’s PR department?!? Seriously, that statement reminds me SO much of “pride and accomplishment” that it’s fucking sickening. Did Electronic Arts write Channel Awesome’s press statement??
This is absolutly insane, I wish all you guys didn't have to go through everything you did and completly agree that this is the most empty and shallow response they could have contemplaited... you all deserve better and at least an apology! I would have never thought that re-discovered so many of my favorite content creators after so long would be awesome yet depressing. there was a time when I sunk so many hours into you guys and was on TGWTG daily, wishing you all the best and will definatly be catching one of your streams in the near future
I remember when LordKat left after Kickassia talking about a lot of the problems in the recent list that came out. Its really really sad Channel Awesome just kept chugging along as the problem it is.
Sounds familiar ... no one respects producers as much as CA does ... believe me . But wait the 2nd response was even greater and everyone left in last 10 days.
WrecklessEating Dann right we do. As fans, I feel like we owe it to the people we've followed over the years that we support them, especially now. Fuck Michaud, man. Jesus Christ.
Honestly, when I learned about everything yesterday, and saw part of the doc, I unsubbed from CA immediately. Don't want to have anything to do with them anymore.
And yeah, I'm one of those people who followed you when Blip was still around and only just now got back around to watching your stuff - and the stuff of others who wrote that document. So sorry you were all put through all this bullshit. I haven't actually visited the Channel Awesome website in over two years, instead just following the individual producers I liked on TH-cam. This event, and the company's callous non-apology is what made me finally unfollow Doug Walker on TH-cam. He may not be the one who's done the majority of the abusive crap, but he's still complicit. He had chances to speak up and do something for his fellow producers and did nothing.
Spending the last few days reading the doc breaks my heart and pisses me off. I am legitimately angry for you guys. Glad you guys are giving these bastards what they deserve. Keep up the good work and don't give up the fight!
Seriously, they're just adding insult to injury! I sincerely wish you the very best as this seems to be the online "Weinstein" movement we saw recently. I feel for what you went through :'( You have my full support as a once-fan of CA (where I discovered your online persona).
You know, as crazy as this whole situation has been over the past couple weeks, coming here and seeing accounts of a bunch of people that were on the site for ages be them old or new...it's gotten me to actually check them out. So while I kinda feel stupid for not having checked out a bunch of you guys for a long time, at least I'm making up for that now. That just means I have a LOT of new content to watch from former CA people.
Hey Marzgurl. Been a fan since seeing you at the 2nd year anniversary film, and enjoy some your work too. I can say is that I and your fans are here with you. I didn't hear about this situation until like 15 mins. ago. This is just mind boggling for sure. Anyways hope you're doing good and like I said, we're here for you. Thumbs up
I'm sorry about all this stuff that happened. I'm really upset about all these things that have been going down for past month as well. I'm gonna support you and spread the word about your TH-cam channel because you deserve success. I recently became a patreon supporter on Suede's patreon because of all of the demonitization that was done on his Pokémon videos. I'm gonna try to support all of you ex-channel awesome producers because you deserve all the success in the world. 1 new subscriber acquired!
Gosh I knew things weren't fair with CA, but everything I've heard the past few months is really depressing to hear. But I'm happy with all of you coming forward and calling the company out on the ways their employees (Especially poor Holly!) have been treated.
thank you for posting this, as I am not a stream watcher. it makes me sad that CA went this route. I'll be honest: I thought the problems were just Lupus and Spoony having some personal issues and others "choosing sides," but I gotta say you were one of the most genuine on that site. If you have a problem, then there are some serious problems going down at CA. You know, that and the ever growing document.
Hey Marzgurl, I had no idea that this is what you guys went through and I am so sorry. I believe in all of you guys and nobody deserves to go through what you guys went through. Stay strong and know that people have your back.
Oh man. This is fantastic. I really wish there were more videos of former CA contributors reacting to this garbage statement, like Lindsey or Allison. Like yea there's the document but it would be so cool to *see* people just going off on this. Like I imagine Lewis would be livid. And where's Todd. Todd hasn't said anything. *Give us angry Todd*
I'm still wondering if she went to the Fridge after for that 'adult beverage'... After all it was pointed out that she doesn't drink, but it was also pointed out that she doesn't swear either, so...
So, i have been a fan of Channel Awesome for years. I didn't see the treatment that you guys were given or how Mike was treating women. But, i felt this wasn't an apology, it was just an excuse as a result of #ChangeTheChannel. I don't accept this apology if i was in your position. I am thankful you guys got out of there. No one should have to put up with that kind of treatment. I really don't go on the website anymore. I just visit the youtube channel. I didn't even know about Linkara's exit until i looked it up on his website. CA is going down the toliet, but i didn't realize it was years upon years ago.
That response from Channel Awesome is so hollow. Really, that kind of detached response sounds like something reviewers on the site would have made fun of if it appeared in a movie/ comic/ game. By now Brad Jones is the only person left that I follow, and it’s been through the Cinema Snob site and TH-cam anyway. Great to find you’re here and kicking butt, MarsGurl!
Swearing is fine when you've got a valid reason to swear, and *this is a very valid reason*. Their flippant 'we regret you felt that way' BS is absolutely abhorrent and unprofessional and frankly, your reaction is, if anything, restrained. I just hope you know you've got fans online who will support you and that people are waking up to the bullshit CA has pulled. We're on your side.
I have almost forgotten about Marz Girl and her blue hair. Been 8 years since i watched a CA video. Glad i came across this. You always seemed like a down to earth reasonable person. Unfortunately the corporate world is like this and it sucks. Such a shame to see the oasis that was internet personalities succumb to the same model.
I haven't checked out the CA website in a while, mainly just sticking to the TH-cam pages of the creators. This non-apology just reassured that I won't return to that site ever. That reaction was absolutely justifiable. They actually went with a "sorry you were offended" apology. Just, how out-of-touch are these guys?
I'm sorry this happened to you, Marzgurl. I'm sorry it happened to all of the content creators I have a deep admiration of. It's sad to think that when I use to watch you guys, all those years ago, that you were going through this shit. They did a good job making it look like you were all a happy family behind the scenes. I use to be quite envious actually. I feel bad about that now. Of course, in recent years that veneer had really started to crack. The horror stories from people like Chad and Lupa, and many others, showed it was actually quite the shit show behind the scenes. So yeah, I had a feeling this was going to come to a head sooner or later. I just sincerely hope that, for the sake of the new guard, CA either gets their shit together. Or it fucking implodes in on itself.
ULGROTHA Basically they treated him like he was nothing. Removed all this content from the site one day. Cut off communication, and were just super unprofessional. They wouldn't return his calls or even give him the time of day.
Hey Marzgurl. I don't recall how much of you I watched back when I was really into Channelawesome, but I've subscribed here because you seem really genuine (and entertaining, though this video is mostly just frustrating). Keep on keeping on, you never deserved this. It's great that you've done what you have.
Yes, I just rediscovered you through this whole fiasco. Sorry it was that way. I don't visit the site anymore. I use each person's channel. I still enjoy Nostalgia Critic, though. In fact, ironically, I would never have discovered any of you if not through Doug, so I'm a bit torn. I will have to think on that. Hopefully Doug himself leaves. There is a rumor circulating that he has left and is seeking legal counsel as to how to get back the rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Hopefully he is successful, if it's true. If it is true, we will need a genuine response from him, clarifying where his end of the blame lies, apologizing for it, and humbly seeking reconciliation. If he doesn't want his legacy tarnished, it is what he has to do.
I'm sorry to hear you had to deal with this, including this insulting apology that is just an extra slap to the face. And that after all this you still adres your viewers in such a way positive open way. Huge respect for you Marzgurl.
Man,just reading over that document,that's just gross how you and the other producers were treated. Like the others said,I got your back on this. Keep being awesome Marzgurl. 👊
On the bright side this is the funniest thing the Walkers have ever written.
Norfolk lad but for all the wrong reasons, this is the Room of apologies.
Damn! lol Rekt
A part of me feels that either Mike or Rob wrote that for some reason...
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ssjup81 It seems like a very Mike thing to write. But hey, I can't count Rob out completely, especially not when the charts say...
I'm sad to say that I thought you just stopped making content some years ago. Hell I didn't know that even Benzaie was still around. But, if nothing else, I'm glad that finding out about everything you and the others went through led me to rediscover your content. Good to know you're still creating content Marzgurl. Guess I've got some videos to marathon. xD
i know right? i am currently looking to find all my old favorites and seing where they are now, in the end the thing that made TGWTG great was the producers, not the website.
Isn't that great for all the previous content creators? Now they finally get a nice boost on their channels.
It's ironic that a site that's made it's bread and butter from criticism reviews is in turn not wanting to be criticized by its former reviewers.
It's an "Apology" that even Logan Paul would laugh at.
Sick burn bro
I think they hired Logan to write it for them =P
What's even more sad is that even after the doc was released, many fans are still loyal to CA. Their excuse is "Well that's pretty much every company! Suck it up, snowflake!"
Ughh some people......
They're so used to getting screwed over from scummy companies that they consider it normal and part of everyday life. Ethics in business are dead.
Not all cults need to use religion to control people.
I immediately unsubbed from CA and the NC.
For the record I'm no fan of soyboys, cat ladies, crayonheads, and scumbag commies always screaming 'muh racism', 'muh sexism', 'Drumpf REEEEE' or any other bullshit they and their ilk engage in.
With that said, this is not another case of SJWs crying wolf because the evidence is so overwhelming and LordKat, Amazing Atheist, and a few others has been talking about this bullshit for a few years. Now it's come to the limelight and CA and that freshly circumcised dick Michaud is finally getting his.
"Suck it up, snowflake"? Really you dick riding cucks? This situation is a textbook example of how NOT to run a production company. Fucking rank amateurs!
Reminds me of the Logan Paul forest video. I remember watching it before it really gained notoriety and thought it was absolutely horrid and yet I remember seeing this exact kind of comment, something like "Look at all these snowflakes in the comments section." I honestly can't believe people would act this way.
Marzgurl swearing is symphony to my ears 🎶
I take it she typically doesn't?
When she said "oh shit son" she just said it just so white like (no racial) it made me laugh so hard
Kyle is my friend's brother and I was just sent the document this morning. Just have to say, I respect the shit out of you, even never having seen your content before this video. So few people are willing to share that level of vulnerability and honesty on the internet, and your dedication to presenting yourself authentically is a breath of fresh air. Much love to you and all the producers standing up against mistreatment in the industry.
Reading Channel Awesome's response is what made me unsubscribe. That is some defensive bully double talk, right there. Marzgurl, I'm sorry you had to go through this.
That half-assed "apology", if you can call it that, is also probably why Film Brain left. He left right after it.
I knew relatively little about the situation. This non-apology tells me all I need to know.
That public apology reads like a laundry list of stock phrases that a company uses when they want to save face as fast as possible without actually accepting blame for anything, as you said. I already knew that site was run very unprofessionally and was nothing more than some guys broadcasting out of their closet, but such a blatant disregard for other people's well-being is really pathetic.
Also, "this is my jam" is going to be my go-to phrase whenever I wanna be really deliberately condescending to someone's cliche'd, insincere sob story about why they won't accept blame for something.
"What's that? He claims his history of sexual abusing minors was linked to a mental illness? Aw, that's my jam right there!!"
Robogabriel Also, I've taken PR/classes that discuss how to apologize. At the top of list of things not to say: "I'm sorry you feel that way/I'm sorry anyone was offended."
And why not?? It's extremely condescending.
“I’m sorry you felt that way,” is also an “apology” that can’t be used against you in court, at least not easily.
Danyne S it’s textbook passive aggressive.
Robogabriel oh it is definitely that. I’m just saying that’s it the type of thing they teach one to say to “avoid lawsuits.” They used to teach the same technique in nursing school, as part of “never admit fault”. Thankfully, I think they are starting to move away from that.
Love how you couldnt make it past the second sentence with a straight face.
It’s like Fredrick said in his livestream. A lot of that “apology” doesn’t say anything, and when it did it was a slap to the face to y’all.
-Reads entire 70 page doc.
-Reads CA statement
I wanted to remain subscribed if only because I wanted to at least support Malcolm and Tamara...but no. CA loses a subscriber at this point, MarzGurl gains one.
Malcolm and Tamara have their own youtube channels (GohakuX and tamaralynnchambers), I personally went and unsubbed to CA, and subbed to their induvidual channels even if the content they post there isnt quite the same.
I could honestly have remained subbed to Doug/Rob if it wasnt for Michaud. From what I saw the Walkers aren't bad enough that I could get into protest-unsub-drama, but man, everything I read about that Michaud guy just makes me wanna slam the unsub button so damn fast.
i can only guess that tamara and malcom are in the elites as well. I mean i cant imagine they wouldnt be since they are prodominant on the site and can literaly be at any shoot that doug or rob need them in
Same
I feel so sorry that they alongside Walter, Ayanna, Jim and Heather have to stay there. Not to mention how Brad must feel considering he's still friends with the Walkers and Allison and Phelan, that must suck for him.
ULGROTHA Oh I was already subbed to both of them. But things like Tamara's Never Seen are on the CA channel, and not her personal one.
Thank you, MarzGurl. This has been the final push I've needed to quit watching Nostalgia Critic. It hasn't been funny in years, but I still come back like an addict occasionally. I think I can now quit for good.
Hey MarzGurl, as someone who's watched your content since the early days of Channel Awesome, I have to say that I'm glad that you're standing up for your fellow content producers in this thing against CA. You're doing a great thing and a lot of people appreciate you all doing this, so thank you.
I remember wanting to be a part of the site for YEARS. With this, the toxic forum community, the Metokur videos, and the fascinating manifesto you guys put together, I am so glad I didn't get involved in this mess!
I give you guys massive respect for exposing Channel Awesome and the shady practices you all had to deal with.
Godspeed to your future endeavours, Kaylyn!
Best regards,
-CynicalPundit (formerly known as ThatCriticalJew)
ULGROTHA Fam, if you have the ambition to make the series, go for it. Work hard at it and don't just do it for a company that's gonna double penetrate you like CA. Do it for the sake of passion and building YOUR OWN audience.
I've wanted to join CA/TGWTG for years, but I figured that it'd be hell to juggle college obligations, my music, job hunting and content creation
And, after hearing what happened on the set of To Boldly Flee, I'm kinda glad I didn't, though I wish I saw Phelous and Rob screaming at each other in the parking lot of a Best Western over second unit scheduling
Sad thing is, the reason why TGWTG was so loved was because it showed what people with little could do and those who wanted to be a part of it wanted to grow alongside them.
Sadly not only was their growth slow and pretty much non-existent but they also seemed to go out of their way to hinder the growth of the other content providers they were suppose to help.
ULGROTHA If it makes you feel any better, 2009 was around the time I wanted to do my own web review series because of CA. So far I've finished just the pilot and that's it XD
ULGROTHA My pilot? Yeah, it's on my YT channel as "Into the Mouse Hole" - sort of a historical video analysis series on Disney. Still have been working on episode 2 for a solid year and a half XD
I recently found your channel but after hearing from what happened to you, Allison and other youtubers, I’m on y’all’s side...#ChangeTheChannel
"I'm sorry you feel that way." is always a non-apology. It's a way of gaslighting. "We're not the problem. You are for overreacting."
Autumnsfantasy
Even something as non-committal as “we’re sorry *we made* you feel that way” would have been better. At least that takes some basic level of responsibility.
9:36 This is not the Victim Blaming Song, no - This is just a tribute. o/"
This video was great. Not just because of the swearing but because it was just real talk. MarzGurl Unplugged. I loved it.
MarzGurl may have to change her name to BestGurl after this!
Thank you to all who contributed to the document "Not So Awesome," the information was eye opening. The people who left TGWTG were what made it awesome.
What gets me is Doug walker's first video is when he walked into his other big corporate job , with music playing stood on a chair ripped his shirt open and I quit written on his chest. Now he's become that very corporate , ironic isn't it ?😂
Wow. MarzGurl on a swearing tirade. Not something I hear very often. But very refreshing.
Jeez, I knew it was bad but I had no idea just HOW MANY of the people I respect and admire were affected by this nonsense! I’m so sorry this happened to everyone and I’m glad most of you are finding your feet on your own! The fallout from the Wild West days of the “Internet Personality” is far reaching and I hope this is the end of it for all of you. Nothing but happy trails and successes for you in the days ahead!
We TALKED to you about this. With our VOICES
"we regret you felt that way" is the most egotistical backhand of all time. sounds more like rob than doug (based on their brother series of movie reviews) but i'm sure they all reviewed and ok'd it.
What I take from this video past your reaction is this: You stream wow and I was unaware, and now I want to watch every stream you do.
She streams frequently.
*sees video title*
*grabs a chair*
Jesus Christ, this should be fun!
Subscribed because of this response. And the catchy song!
Damn, I've missed you marzgurl . Im really sorry about all the shit you guys went through. You all got me through some really hard times and I would be honored to contribute in any way that I can
Marzgurl, I dumped them when you left and I was only gratified when Louis left recently. I began to suspect how bad the situation was when Noah was suspended back in the day, but lately I have been utterly gratified for dumping his page. I unsubscribed from his channel a loooong time ago, and have felt no need to visit the official page in months. Doug and his little "channel" became drunk with power a long time ago and it saddens me to see the state that he and his "channel" have slid into. I was a huge fan at one point, and it was a fun experiment, but it is obviously going to die a slow death if they don't make some major course corrections.
Thank you, Marzgurl, for continuing on; I love your Super Sentai reviews, thoroughly enjoyed your SlimFast reviews (I, myself, have been doing the men's program), and I eagerly look forward to all of the content you post. I hope you never stop and that, perhaps, someday I can thank you in person. Cheers!
jediarco The sad thing is that Doug really has no power. By all accounts he has almost no control of the company.
Honestly, another thing that’s kind of tragic is that Channel Awesome really had some potential, and because it was mismanaged SO HORRIBLY (by Mike Michaud ruining everything he touched and Doug and Rob being arrogant amateurs unwilling to ask for professional guidance) we will never really knew what Channel Awesome could’ve been had this Michaud guy never been involved with the enterprise?
FilmBrain has left the ship, too.
Fermin Tenava so has Mike J
Ben Jones leaves that site completely and it's all over for them.
Fermin Tenava Whose left at this point?
I hope they all leave.
Fermin Tenava I don’t know why CR! Still stays at channel Awesome. Unless he left.
Good to see you on here, I'm one of the old timers and I am glad to see you guys are doing alright on your own, you have my full support and viewership :)
I've always thought the behind-the-scenes drama was so sad. This should have been an opportunity to clean some shit up and maybe get a redemption arc going. But, no, just more sad drama. At least Linkara has finally been set free. I really hope he reconnects with Spoony, I feel like he could really help the guy out with his depression and so on.
I'm not going on Channel Awesome any longer. I lost all respect for Doug and the gang after hearing about all this drama that has been going on, and I am sorry for all that stuff that happened to you! (To think I wanted to work with Doug Walker someday...)
Tornado1994 still, my respect for him is near gone. Besides, I have a feeling they’ll probably never do that.
Tornado1994 I honestly doubt it, not even a Walker apologist will persuade me otherwise.
It's sucked for years.
Reviews and Retrospectives a lot of this came out years ago didn't it.
D.San makes a valid point. Your guys are only doing this now?
I.O.U. an epic high five.
I haven't done a rant video in years, this NONpology is begging me to dust off my mic.
Thank you for saying this and for all of the years of great enjoyment you've blessed us with - I've enjoyed your content since you were on CA and I'm really sad things have gone this way but appreciate your honest response and look forward to seeing what you do in the future!
I'm glad you posted this. Open discussion of this kind of thing should be encouraged.
Marzgurl, im actually not a huge fan of your content. I don't like anime too much and I don't play videogames. But ever since you appeared on Channel Awesome years ago I've been rooting for you 100%. I love your personality and your voice is just so well needed such a male dominated niche. Because of all this BS I actually thought you stopped producing videos years ago. I'm so SO happy to see you have a TH-cam channel and are streaming, that you're well and you're still putting content out there for your fans!! I wish you nothing but success, no more stress, and you've got one more subscriber!
I didn't read every account in that doc, but I read yours, Allison's, Lewis', and Lindsey's. I had no idea things were that terrible. I had heard rumblings, but nothing like that. I can only say that I'm sorry for what you had to go through. My hope is that you will hold on to the positive relationships that you made through Channel Awesome.
That response sounded very EA-ish. Very much corporate PR fluff. Of course they will never admit to any wrong doing, nor do I expect that they will actually do anything to change.
Marz, I'v watched you from day one of TGWTG to now this whole time, I'm on your side girl :)
I read the document a few days ago, MarzGurl, and while I'd known there were some bad business practices on TGWTG, I never knew just how bad it was, how widely it reached, and also I never knew how badly you were treated, specifically. I'm very sorry you had to go through that. I'm not sure what to say, as I don't know what sentiment would be considered appropriate, but I at least wish you the very best in the future.
Their response was arrogant, conceited and only made in an attempt to protect their wallets. Make no mistake, the truly awesome ones are yourself and your fellow content creators who had the courage to speak out against CA. We, the audience, are firmly standing with you as we are showing with our unsubscriptions. You have nothing to apologise for. Stay strong and know that you have our utmost respect and support.
Thank you Marzgirl you’ve given me a lot of much needed insight and it’s good to see you again.
PS I’m excited to see you are reviewing super sentai I’ll see you on twitch
the best thing that came out of #changethechannel is, after pretty much 5 years of what i thought was an ended era, i get to rediscover so many of my old internet heroes n' heroines actually found themself a better platform.
i'm so glad to see that you're still making content MarzGurl, seems like i have plenty of catching up to do.
Ajit pai-:"I'm the most hated man alive right now"
Logan paul: "Hold my beer"
CA: "Hold my cigarette"
Mike Michaud: "Hold my Xbox controller"
I have never clicked something so fast.
Keep on trucking and being awesome.
☕️💅💋
Will the "Victim Blaming" song be available soon on iTunes? Gotta drop them fire beats for us to enjoy
"You just ran over my dog!" "Well, I'm very sorry you feel that way." And then he just drives off.
I really am appreciative to you and to other former CA workers like Holly and Allison etc. for opening up about this. As unaware bout this stuff that's been going on, I am sorry that CA have mistreated you.
I still have a dream of becoming an internet reviewer and talk about things i like and dislike regarding movies, games, books etc. and from hearing all this stuff that CA have done, I am glad I didn't even consider signing up.
As for the 3 people involved, I have never heard of Michard, but i can tell he is a nasty bit of work. As for Doug and Rob. I'm surprised at their actions too, I have watched Nostalgia Critic thanks to a good school friend of mine and his show I always thought was hilarious, AND I can thank Doug because if it weren't for him and the crossovers, I would never have videos from yourself, from Allison, from Phelan and from Lewis. In fact, I'd watch more of all your stuff since IMO the NC has faltered over the years. And I do think you're an inspiration to wannabe internet critics like myself and I sincerely apologize that I haven't discovered you sooner. I love your Twitch streams, It gives me a chance to interact with you because from videos and crossovers I have seen, You're a really cool and sweet lady!! And I'll try and keep up with your content :)
But I'm getting ahead of myself here, Keep doing what you love doing, Forget bout the shit that CA have given to you and the other producers and do what YOU do best :) you have a huge community of fans supporting you and we will be supporting you for as long as it takes :) You're awesome, good on you for opening up and #ChangetheChannel
What the fuck? When did Channel Awesome start making enough money to afford EA’s PR department?!?
Seriously, that statement reminds me SO much of “pride and accomplishment” that it’s fucking sickening. Did Electronic Arts write Channel Awesome’s press statement??
This is absolutly insane, I wish all you guys didn't have to go through everything you did and completly agree that this is the most empty and shallow response they could have contemplaited... you all deserve better and at least an apology! I would have never thought that re-discovered so many of my favorite content creators after so long would be awesome yet depressing. there was a time when I sunk so many hours into you guys and was on TGWTG daily, wishing you all the best and will definatly be catching one of your streams in the near future
I remember when LordKat left after Kickassia talking about a lot of the problems in the recent list that came out. Its really really sad Channel Awesome just kept chugging along as the problem it is.
We have your back :)
Thanks, man!
WrecklessEating :D I am a big fan.
Absolutely!
Sounds familiar ... no one respects producers as much as CA does ... believe me .
But wait the 2nd response was even greater and everyone left in last 10 days.
WrecklessEating Dann right we do. As fans, I feel like we owe it to the people we've followed over the years that we support them, especially now. Fuck Michaud, man. Jesus Christ.
Channel Awesome.... What are youuuu doing here?
Is it weird that I read that in Phelous's voice?
Solidus-Skully no not at all lol
Channel Awesome got a serious case of...To Boldly Flee Virus.
Her cracking up at “respects their producers” is the funniest fucking thing”
Honestly, when I learned about everything yesterday, and saw part of the doc, I unsubbed from CA immediately. Don't want to have anything to do with them anymore.
Marzgurl swearing 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💜💚💛❤️💙💘💗💟💞💖
And yeah, I'm one of those people who followed you when Blip was still around and only just now got back around to watching your stuff - and the stuff of others who wrote that document.
So sorry you were all put through all this bullshit.
I haven't actually visited the Channel Awesome website in over two years, instead just following the individual producers I liked on TH-cam. This event, and the company's callous non-apology is what made me finally unfollow Doug Walker on TH-cam. He may not be the one who's done the majority of the abusive crap, but he's still complicit. He had chances to speak up and do something for his fellow producers and did nothing.
I've found your responses to be well-reasoned through this whole thing, and that's been rare.
The best thing about the whole thing is it helped me find you again after so many years!
Yes! Thank you for uploading this to youtube! I kept trying to watch it on twitter and it kept crapping out on me.
Spending the last few days reading the doc breaks my heart and pisses me off. I am legitimately angry for you guys. Glad you guys are giving these bastards what they deserve. Keep up the good work and don't give up the fight!
Seriously, they're just adding insult to injury! I sincerely wish you the very best as this seems to be the online "Weinstein" movement we saw recently. I feel for what you went through :'( You have my full support as a once-fan of CA (where I discovered your online persona).
Marzgurl is Adorable! im happy this disaster allowed me to find this channel!
Dear MarzGurl,
Today I am so very happy to be subscribing to you, and unsubscribing from Channel Awesome. Thank you and keep up the great work!!
You know, as crazy as this whole situation has been over the past couple weeks, coming here and seeing accounts of a bunch of people that were on the site for ages be them old or new...it's gotten me to actually check them out.
So while I kinda feel stupid for not having checked out a bunch of you guys for a long time, at least I'm making up for that now. That just means I have a LOT of new content to watch from former CA people.
Hey Marzgurl, glad i got to rediscover you again! Look forward to watching your content!
We all love you guys.
You help us in our darkest times.
So now its our turn to give our support to you all.
Well said
Hey Marzgurl. Been a fan since seeing you at the 2nd year anniversary film, and enjoy some your work too. I can say is that I and your fans are here with you. I didn't hear about this situation until like 15 mins. ago. This is just mind boggling for sure. Anyways hope you're doing good and like I said, we're here for you. Thumbs up
Preach on! Like most have said, we've got your back.
The non apology that turned into a eulogy
I'm sorry about all this stuff that happened. I'm really upset about all these things that have been going down for past month as well.
I'm gonna support you and spread the word about your TH-cam channel because you deserve success. I recently became a patreon supporter on Suede's patreon because of all of the demonitization that was done on his Pokémon videos. I'm gonna try to support all of you ex-channel awesome producers because you deserve all the success in the world.
1 new subscriber acquired!
Gosh I knew things weren't fair with CA, but everything I've heard the past few months is really depressing to hear. But I'm happy with all of you coming forward and calling the company out on the ways their employees (Especially poor Holly!) have been treated.
thank you for posting this, as I am not a stream watcher. it makes me sad that CA went this route.
I'll be honest: I thought the problems were just Lupus and Spoony having some personal issues and others "choosing sides," but I gotta say you were one of the most genuine on that site. If you have a problem, then there are some serious problems going down at CA.
You know, that and the ever growing document.
Marzgurl being a savage?? I like. You like?
Hey Marzgurl, I had no idea that this is what you guys went through and I am so sorry. I believe in all of you guys and nobody deserves to go through what you guys went through. Stay strong and know that people have your back.
Oh man. This is fantastic. I really wish there were more videos of former CA contributors reacting to this garbage statement, like Lindsey or Allison. Like yea there's the document but it would be so cool to *see* people just going off on this. Like I imagine Lewis would be livid. And where's Todd. Todd hasn't said anything. *Give us angry Todd*
I know you don't normally swear or express your frustrations, but seeing MarzGurl angry is AWESOME!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm still wondering if she went to the Fridge after for that 'adult beverage'... After all it was pointed out that she doesn't drink, but it was also pointed out that she doesn't swear either, so...
Bless you, MarzGurl. :) It's a shame that those things happened, and that it now tarnishes so many of our memories.
I love that this is under the “reviews” playlist. That’s some weapons-grade irony.
All this drama and bullshit, I have never wanted to protect MarzGurl's smile more T.T
So, i have been a fan of Channel Awesome for years. I didn't see the treatment that you guys were given or how Mike was treating women. But, i felt this wasn't an apology, it was just an excuse as a result of #ChangeTheChannel. I don't accept this apology if i was in your position. I am thankful you guys got out of there. No one should have to put up with that kind of treatment. I really don't go on the website anymore. I just visit the youtube channel.
I didn't even know about Linkara's exit until i looked it up on his website. CA is going down the toliet, but i didn't realize it was years upon years ago.
Their subscriptions for their TH-cam channel is really going down. Can't wonder how soon before it dips under the 1 million mark.
I know, i recently unsubscribed from CA. They have no respect for their past producers. I feel bad for the new producers.
Hey Marzgurl, I’ve never seen a frame of your videos, but thanks to this reaction, I’ve now subscribed ! :D
That response from Channel Awesome is so hollow. Really, that kind of detached response sounds like something reviewers on the site would have made fun of if it appeared in a movie/ comic/ game.
By now Brad Jones is the only person left that I follow, and it’s been through the Cinema Snob site and TH-cam anyway. Great to find you’re here and kicking butt, MarsGurl!
We regret that you feel that way. Equals Sorry but we're not sorry.
You go, girl!
You go, *gurl*!
Swearing is fine when you've got a valid reason to swear, and *this is a very valid reason*. Their flippant 'we regret you felt that way' BS is absolutely abhorrent and unprofessional and frankly, your reaction is, if anything, restrained. I just hope you know you've got fans online who will support you and that people are waking up to the bullshit CA has pulled. We're on your side.
I have almost forgotten about Marz Girl and her blue hair. Been 8 years since i watched a CA video. Glad i came across this. You always seemed like a down to earth reasonable person. Unfortunately the corporate world is like this and it sucks. Such a shame to see the oasis that was internet personalities succumb to the same model.
You the others have my subs and my support for what it's worth. You guys made that website. Without you, it's just Doug and his unchecked ego.
Channel Awesome? What are YOOOOOU still doing here?
I haven't checked out the CA website in a while, mainly just sticking to the TH-cam pages of the creators. This non-apology just reassured that I won't return to that site ever.
That reaction was absolutely justifiable. They actually went with a "sorry you were offended" apology. Just, how out-of-touch are these guys?
I'm sorry this happened to you, Marzgurl. I'm sorry it happened to all of the content creators I have a deep admiration of. It's sad to think that when I use to watch you guys, all those years ago, that you were going through this shit. They did a good job making it look like you were all a happy family behind the scenes. I use to be quite envious actually. I feel bad about that now. Of course, in recent years that veneer had really started to crack. The horror stories from people like Chad and Lupa, and many others, showed it was actually quite the shit show behind the scenes. So yeah, I had a feeling this was going to come to a head sooner or later.
I just sincerely hope that, for the sake of the new guard, CA either gets their shit together. Or it fucking implodes in on itself.
ULGROTHA
Basically they treated him like he was nothing. Removed all this content from the site one day. Cut off communication, and were just super unprofessional. They wouldn't return his calls or even give him the time of day.
Hey Marzgurl. I don't recall how much of you I watched back when I was really into Channelawesome, but I've subscribed here because you seem really genuine (and entertaining, though this video is mostly just frustrating). Keep on keeping on, you never deserved this. It's great that you've done what you have.
Yes, I just rediscovered you through this whole fiasco. Sorry it was that way. I don't visit the site anymore. I use each person's channel. I still enjoy Nostalgia Critic, though. In fact, ironically, I would never have discovered any of you if not through Doug, so I'm a bit torn. I will have to think on that. Hopefully Doug himself leaves. There is a rumor circulating that he has left and is seeking legal counsel as to how to get back the rights to the Nostalgia Critic. Hopefully he is successful, if it's true. If it is true, we will need a genuine response from him, clarifying where his end of the blame lies, apologizing for it, and humbly seeking reconciliation. If he doesn't want his legacy tarnished, it is what he has to do.
I'm sorry to hear you had to deal with this, including this insulting apology that is just an extra slap to the face.
And that after all this you still adres your viewers in such a way positive open way. Huge respect for you Marzgurl.
I just discovered you via this whole debacle today and you seem great :)
Man,just reading over that document,that's just gross how you and the other producers were treated. Like the others said,I got your back on this. Keep being awesome Marzgurl. 👊
"We sincerely regret you felt that way." WOW. We got your back, MarzGurl!
It felt like a sorry excuse letter. Sad I didn't remember or find any of the older members on TH-cam or didn't notice them.