Thanks for another brilliant discussion. It used to be if someone young partook, the WT would describe such a one as well-meaning but deluded. But now... they're going to have to remodel their doctrines more and more in view of the times not being the times after all.
They are willing to call these parables but they stopped short of mixing in the faithful and discrete slave parable, which they call a prophecy. Yet it’s directly connected to these parables.
How can people in this world be JUDGED AGAINST SOMETHING THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT IT SAYS WHST THEY DO TOO THEIR FELLOW MAN HUNGRY THIRSTY NAKED FROM AUSTRALIA LEFT 2020 AT 80.YRS OLD BORN IN GLAD TO BE FREE ❤❤❤
It sounds like they’ve completed divorced the literal prophecy of Jesus regarding the coming destruction of Jerusalem and its temple which is the topic of discussion of Matthew 24 and have just made Matthew 24 and 25 about only watchtower and your support of their corporation
If we want to protect ourselves from false prophets and prophecy regarding the Bible, we must understand its context. Matthew 24; Mark 13 and Luke 21 were about the destruction of Jerusalem and it would happen in that generation, which it did in 70 A.D. John does not cover these events in his gospel as they are covered in the book of Revelation. Revelation is also about the destruction of Jerusalem and the resurrection. If we don't accept the Bible's time statements and context we will be vulnerable to the next false prophets/prophecies.
Singing hymns is a form of worshipping God. Song 25 in this article is in praise of anointed JW's. 😞 In the third verse referring to them it says; "Faithful to their commission, They gather the other sheep. 😳 Blasphemy! Gathering the sheep is Jesus ' job. "As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. AND OTHER SHEEP I HAVE, WHICH ARE NOT OF THIS FOLD: THEM ALSO I MUST BRING, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." John 10:15,16 KJV
So true. When someone tells you who he is, believe him. GB believe they are above all others, probably included God. What's the first commandment again. Thou shalt not worship any other God?
In paragraph one; "WE LIVE in a climactic time! Soon, Jesus will judge every living person. " Good news for those of us" in Christ". Jesus has already been judged in our place. 🥳 "He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; FOR HE SHALL BEAR THEIR INIQUITIES. Isaiah 53: 11 KJV
:46 Yeah , when you delve into any form of saten's toxic lies , be it anything in life , say , if a unsavory person wants to get into an argument with you , you put the ball in their toxic court , then things very fast turn into them trying to get their way , their evil way , so it is great when it comes from a pure place , say from the Holy Spirit inside of you , not in a competitive , passive aggressive , designed to provoke you way the enemy wants you to be 24/7 entangled in. 1:22 I find that the uncertain parts in scripture , I end up pondering in my head..."What does this mean??" But then God shows me something great that is super useful , it's almost as though you have to have a right lowliness of heart before you can get these insights God gives you , like I was reading 1 Cor 16 v22 and it was like God secretly showed me something , then continued to subtly give me things throughout that timespan of having just read it. Extra note , so I just wanted to say this somewhere , I was trying to deprogram some JWs with their cart , and at the end , they tried to give me a literature of theirs , then it came to me... what I said was , "Well... I'm trying to find a church right now but I want to find one that gets 1 Cor 5 right in how to apply it to their Christian lives." LOL , I felt how that must of threw them off , because they were being very posh and smooth with everything before , but really I'm suffering because of how they let the disfellowshipping occur , with no one to hold them accountable for their... basically I see it as similar to a war crime. So then they got very quit when I said that lol , because they might even just be fast to justify why they justify their totally warped method on the spot , which could have gotten messy... 8:22 You know I was thinking about this a lot recently , how the world guilt trips you into being faithful blindfuly to things that ought to be exposed to the upmost , like for instance a job with horrible working conditions , or backbiting employees , the truth is... the only one that deserves for us to be faithful toward them is God , Jesus , and the Holy Spirit and who they DO favor... not just because it's a norm of the world... because people have been reduced to settle for things as is all throughout history... does it mean it's worthy to be faithful towards , there is a huge difference , people should wake and because don't they only have this one life to get it right? 9:30 yeah leave it to this org to minimize the most important matters and exalt trash quality literature. Most important to God at least. Way to go Elaine! 12:13 You know what I've been struggling with lately and for a long while , trying wrap my head around how the Bible could be weaponized to hold responsibility's over your head you never knew about , meaning , I know God's ways are pure , HIS judgements are JUST , but I have trust issues to just accept someone's interpretation of scripture because 1. They could be in a cult 2. They could be like a bully who takes advantage of you , who will go so far as to utilize the Bible itself to come to you with all manner of sweet sounding words like they are a hero for letting you in on their life and journey , but fast foreword a little while , and you find an empty bank account and you get down to the bottom of it , and you figure out you have been taken for a fool by a wolf in sheep's clothing that you fell for their traps , it's happened to me so many times , it's like I can never learn to see it before it happens. Then later I realized , I should have listened to my body... my body was trying to tell me something... 3. I actually would be thrilled to find someone who I can trust out here... but it's sadly like 1 in a trillion.... the rest of that trillion is waiting to scam you for every little blood drop and $ they can... but then you are guilted for calling the police or going contrary to these people's ways.. 13:20 Good eye Elaine , the WT is mocking the end result of trusting in their phony org , you will become an empty wrathe or ghost and have no life in your complexation after their done with you , because they want to turn God's creation into "foolish demoralized wrathes or ghost who have no soul like the GB , who have exhausted their whole lives for nothing like saten is being a loser for, yet did these simple people deserve to be only influenced by saten??? God knows. 14:22 You know this cult exposes a truth , it's not always a bad thing to be lazy in everything , no , cults are excluded from this , because it's actually a good thing to greyrock this org even if you are considered "lazy" by a bunch of empty shells who have been bamboozled by saten to "put out" , PUT OUT FOR WHAT??? You ever hear the term "soft quitting"? Jws should learn this term and use it. I find that people who have a fight to be right way about them perpetuate such "Wooo go team fight no matter what! no critical thinking or asking questions , because it's full of hype , therefore it MUST be worth all your life's effort right??" That is what kills me , I NEED to know the difference to what is worth fighting for , and what deserves , quit frankly... for the FBI to raid it for all the extortion involved , and how countless lives were lost because bullys did their "GO TEAM" best... and lead to suicide of people who were picked on... I was one of those picked on... I know what it is... I realized... my type love to blend out of lines sight and fade away from the hellish treatment of these bullys and the people in charge that do precious little but help the bullys ways to "GO TEAM" to a scapegoats death... the truth is ugly , but so is what we have to go through is uglier... so take your pick. And if it's so God is way ahead , these bullys are waiting to contend at his work , which we know how that will end , just saying.
More circular logic. It is the BIBLE not GB that commands us to honor the older men not because we believe in modern day prophets,as some lyingly claim, but because it pleases JEHOVAH the God whose spirit we seek. Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you." So the issue who are JEHOVAH'S Representatives ? What test has JEHOVAH himself proposed to separate the teachers who have his approval from the false teachers?
The word of God - back this up! I feel sorry for all these haters that have created all these nasty videos spewing hate and venom about Jehovah God and his people (or any religion). It is God that gets to judge people at judgment time, not you (1 Pet 4:5 NLT). And, when they open the scrolls and see every hateful word you've typed, or some nasty video you created about Jehovah God and his people or others, it's not going to end well for you! 1 Pet 4:5 NLT But remember that they will have to face God, who stands ready to judge everyone, both the living and the dead. Psalms 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Proverbs 15:24 The path of life leads upward for the prudent to keep them from going down to the realm of the dead. Mark 9:43 Jesus spoke of hell as a place, "where the fire never goes out," implying unending torment. Furthermore, in Matthew 13:42 They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 18:8 If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire. Matthew 25:41 Jesus mentioned hell as a place "prepared for the devil and his angels," emphasizing its purpose as a place of punishment for the forces of evil. Mark 9:43 If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out. Matthew 25:46 Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Mark 9:47 And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire- Revelation 19:20 But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur. Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Since you chose to be an enemy of God, you will defiantly be going to Hades or option A, B, C, D, E, F, etc. I have created a list of options that may help you decide before judgement time arrives, so plan in advance due to limited space. Maybe they will grant your request, but most likely they won't. But no sense in not trying! Below is a list of options for all these haters. A - Abyss B - Aionios C - Eternal Damnation D - Eternal Punishment E - Fiery Lake of Burning Sulfur F - Fire and Brimstone G - Gehenna H - Grave I - Hades J - Hell K - Inferno L - Limbo M - Lower World N - Pandemonium O - Pit P - Pyr Q - Shoel R - Tararus Your options are wide open, so please choose carefully. Matthew 7:14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. Have a nice day!
Why would Jehovah, who is thought by many as Jesus's father, condone blood sacrifices of both firstborn humans and animals? This to me is barbaric to say the least, hardly a God who cherishes his beautiful creation where all life is considered sacred. I understand Jehovah/Yahweh is the devil who claimed Jesus as his own firstborn son, where he is also crucified as a blood sacrifice by the same God Christians view as Jesus's Father. A true God of divine love would never condone what Jesus experienced. He being Yahweh's ULTIMATE HUMAN BLOOD SACRIFICE dying a merciless horrible torturous death for sins that Yahweh himself concocted where "sin" had to be made as an atonement through animal and human blood sacrifices. Exodus 13:1, 2; Exodus 34:19, 20 Sin doesn't exist, we as humans make mistakes. People who set out to murder or do other atrocious acts know exactly what they're doing. It too is not sin but a crime. They are intentional acts that they deliberately choose to do. Mary’s Gospel Peter said.. “What is the Sin of the World?” The Savior said, “there is no sin..."
Thank you Elaine, for helping others. And you don't how many, I think. I think that number can only go up. Love from The Netherlands🥰
Thanks for another brilliant discussion. It used to be if someone young partook, the WT would describe such a one as well-meaning but deluded. But now... they're going to have to remodel their doctrines more and more in view of the times not being the times after all.
They are willing to call these parables but they stopped short of mixing in the faithful and discrete slave parable, which they call a prophecy. Yet it’s directly connected to these parables.
Great point!
How can people in this world be JUDGED AGAINST SOMETHING THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT
IT SAYS WHST THEY DO TOO THEIR FELLOW MAN HUNGRY THIRSTY NAKED
FROM AUSTRALIA LEFT 2020 AT 80.YRS OLD BORN IN GLAD TO BE FREE ❤❤❤
Wow! Welcome to your freedom. How wonderful that you woke up.
Lol I thought it was only 8 men we had to follow 😮?? Now 11? 😮
Yes, more have recently been added.
Love your videos! Thanks
❤❤❤xxxx God Bless sister xxx
It sounds like they’ve completed divorced the literal prophecy of
Jesus regarding the coming destruction of Jerusalem and its temple which is the topic of discussion of Matthew 24 and have just made Matthew 24 and 25 about only watchtower and your support of their corporation
They have a awake how they came up with the name jehovah . Many grew in that religion
blaming on the invisibly presence of Christ since 1914 really clarify all those grey area, watchtower sucks
Oh my noticed now JW have some active members have own TH-cam videos talking JW doctrine. I guess it helping the active members.
That always makes me giggle. If WT catches them, they be in trouble!
Could you please give us the name of this channel? (I am no more a witness, was disfellowshipped in 2013)
@@marianna280 Keep in mind that these well-meaning folks are regurgitating JW propoganda, so I don't think it would be appropriate to provide a link.
If we want to protect ourselves from false prophets and prophecy regarding the Bible, we must understand its context.
Matthew 24; Mark 13 and Luke 21 were about the destruction of Jerusalem and it would happen in that generation, which it did in 70 A.D. John does not cover these events in his gospel as they are covered in the book of Revelation.
Revelation is also about the destruction of Jerusalem and the resurrection.
If we don't accept the Bible's time statements and context we will be vulnerable to the next false prophets/prophecies.
If on jesus wrote his owns texts...
Singing hymns is a form of worshipping God. Song 25 in this article is in praise of anointed JW's. 😞
In the third verse referring to them it says;
"Faithful to their commission,
They gather the other sheep. 😳
Blasphemy! Gathering the sheep is Jesus '
job.
"As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. AND OTHER SHEEP I HAVE, WHICH ARE NOT OF THIS FOLD: THEM ALSO I MUST BRING, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd." John 10:15,16 KJV
So true. When someone tells you who he is, believe him. GB believe they are above all others, probably included God. What's the first commandment again. Thou shalt not worship any other God?
In paragraph one;
"WE LIVE in a climactic time! Soon, Jesus will judge every living person. "
Good news for those of us" in Christ".
Jesus has already been judged in our place. 🥳
"He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; FOR HE SHALL BEAR THEIR INIQUITIES. Isaiah 53: 11 KJV
:46 Yeah , when you delve into any form of saten's toxic lies , be it anything in life , say , if a unsavory person wants to get into an argument with you , you put the ball in their toxic court , then things very fast turn into them trying to get their way , their evil way , so it is great when it comes from a pure place , say from the Holy Spirit inside of you , not in a competitive , passive aggressive , designed to provoke you way the enemy wants you to be 24/7 entangled in.
1:22 I find that the uncertain parts in scripture , I end up pondering in my head..."What does this mean??" But then God shows me something great that is super useful , it's almost as though you have to have a right lowliness of heart before you can get these insights God gives you , like I was reading 1 Cor 16 v22 and it was like God secretly showed me something , then continued to subtly give me things throughout that timespan of having just read it.
Extra note , so I just wanted to say this somewhere , I was trying to deprogram some JWs with their cart , and at the end , they tried to give me a literature of theirs , then it came to me... what I said was , "Well... I'm trying to find a church right now but I want to find one that gets 1 Cor 5 right in how to apply it to their Christian lives." LOL , I felt how that must of threw them off , because they were being very posh and smooth with everything before , but really I'm suffering because of how they let the disfellowshipping occur , with no one to hold them accountable for their... basically I see it as similar to a war crime. So then they got very quit when I said that lol , because they might even just be fast to justify why they justify their totally warped method on the spot , which could have gotten messy...
8:22 You know I was thinking about this a lot recently , how the world guilt trips you into being faithful blindfuly to things that ought to be exposed to the upmost , like for instance a job with horrible working conditions , or backbiting employees , the truth is... the only one that deserves for us to be faithful toward them is God , Jesus , and the Holy Spirit and who they DO favor... not just because it's a norm of the world... because people have been reduced to settle for things as is all throughout history... does it mean it's worthy to be faithful towards , there is a huge difference , people should wake and because don't they only have this one life to get it right?
9:30 yeah leave it to this org to minimize the most important matters and exalt trash quality literature. Most important to God at least. Way to go Elaine!
12:13 You know what I've been struggling with lately and for a long while , trying wrap my head around how the Bible could be weaponized to hold responsibility's over your head you never knew about , meaning , I know God's ways are pure , HIS judgements are JUST , but I have trust issues to just accept someone's interpretation of scripture because 1. They could be in a cult 2. They could be like a bully who takes advantage of you , who will go so far as to utilize the Bible itself to come to you with all manner of sweet sounding words like they are a hero for letting you in on their life and journey , but fast foreword a little while , and you find an empty bank account and you get down to the bottom of it , and you figure out you have been taken for a fool by a wolf in sheep's clothing that you fell for their traps , it's happened to me so many times , it's like I can never learn to see it before it happens. Then later I realized , I should have listened to my body... my body was trying to tell me something... 3. I actually would be thrilled to find someone who I can trust out here... but it's sadly like 1 in a trillion.... the rest of that trillion is waiting to scam you for every little blood drop and $ they can... but then you are guilted for calling the police or going contrary to these people's ways..
13:20 Good eye Elaine , the WT is mocking the end result of trusting in their phony org , you will become an empty wrathe or ghost and have no life in your complexation after their done with you , because they want to turn God's creation into "foolish demoralized wrathes or ghost who have no soul like the GB , who have exhausted their whole lives for nothing like saten is being a loser for, yet did these simple people deserve to be only influenced by saten??? God knows.
14:22 You know this cult exposes a truth , it's not always a bad thing to be lazy in everything , no , cults are excluded from this , because it's actually a good thing to greyrock this org even if you are considered "lazy" by a bunch of empty shells who have been bamboozled by saten to "put out" , PUT OUT FOR WHAT??? You ever hear the term "soft quitting"? Jws should learn this term and use it. I find that people who have a fight to be right way about them perpetuate such "Wooo go team fight no matter what! no critical thinking or asking questions , because it's full of hype , therefore it MUST be worth all your life's effort right??" That is what kills me , I NEED to know the difference to what is worth fighting for , and what deserves , quit frankly... for the FBI to raid it for all the extortion involved , and how countless lives were lost because bullys did their "GO TEAM" best... and lead to suicide of people who were picked on... I was one of those picked on... I know what it is... I realized... my type love to blend out of lines sight and fade away from the hellish treatment of these bullys and the people in charge that do precious little but help the bullys ways to "GO TEAM" to a scapegoats death... the truth is ugly , but so is what we have to go through is uglier... so take your pick.
And if it's so God is way ahead , these bullys are waiting to contend at his work , which we know how that will end , just saying.
More circular logic. It is the BIBLE not GB that commands us to honor the older men not because we believe in modern day prophets,as some lyingly claim, but because it pleases JEHOVAH the God whose spirit we seek.
Hebrews ch.13:17NKJV"Obey those who [e]rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable for you."
So the issue who are JEHOVAH'S Representatives ? What test has JEHOVAH himself proposed to separate the teachers who have his approval from the false teachers?
The word of God - back this up!
I feel sorry for all these haters that have created all these nasty videos spewing hate and venom about Jehovah God and his people (or any religion). It is God that gets to judge people at judgment time, not you (1 Pet 4:5 NLT). And, when they open the scrolls and see every hateful word you've typed, or some nasty video you created about Jehovah God and his people or others, it's not going to end well for you!
1 Pet 4:5 NLT
But remember that they will have to face God, who stands ready to judge everyone, both the living and the dead.
Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
Proverbs 15:24
The path of life leads upward for the prudent to keep them from going down to the realm of the dead.
Mark 9:43
Jesus spoke of hell as a place, "where the fire never goes out," implying unending torment. Furthermore, in
Matthew 13:42
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 13:50
and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 18:8
If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and cast it from you. It is better for you to enter into life lame or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet, to be cast into the everlasting fire.
Matthew 25:41
Jesus mentioned hell as a place "prepared for the devil and his angels," emphasizing its purpose as a place of punishment for the forces of evil.
Mark 9:43
If your hand causes you to stumble, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.
Matthew 25:46
Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Mark 9:47
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire-
Revelation 19:20
But the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who had performed the signs on its behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped its image. The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
Revelation 21:8
But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars-they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
Since you chose to be an enemy of God, you will defiantly be going to Hades or option A, B, C, D, E, F, etc. I have created a list of options that may help you decide before judgement time arrives, so plan in advance due to limited space. Maybe they will grant your request, but most likely they won't. But no sense in not trying!
Below is a list of options for all these haters.
A - Abyss
B - Aionios
C - Eternal Damnation
D - Eternal Punishment
E - Fiery Lake of Burning Sulfur
F - Fire and Brimstone
G - Gehenna
H - Grave
I - Hades
J - Hell
K - Inferno
L - Limbo
M - Lower World
N - Pandemonium
O - Pit
P - Pyr
Q - Shoel
R - Tararus
Your options are wide open, so please choose carefully.
Matthew 7:14
But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Have a nice day!
Why would Jehovah, who is thought by many as Jesus's father, condone blood sacrifices of both firstborn humans and animals? This to me is barbaric to say the least, hardly a God who cherishes his beautiful creation where all life is considered sacred.
I understand Jehovah/Yahweh is the devil who claimed Jesus as his own firstborn son, where he is also crucified as a blood sacrifice by the same God Christians view as Jesus's Father.
A true God of divine love would never condone what Jesus experienced. He being Yahweh's ULTIMATE HUMAN BLOOD SACRIFICE dying a merciless horrible torturous death for sins that Yahweh himself concocted where "sin" had to be made as an atonement through animal and human blood sacrifices. Exodus 13:1, 2; Exodus 34:19, 20
Sin doesn't exist, we as humans make mistakes. People who set out to murder or do other atrocious acts know exactly what they're doing. It too is not sin but a crime. They are intentional acts that they deliberately choose to do.
Mary’s Gospel
Peter said.. “What is the Sin of the World?”
The Savior said, “there is no sin..."