Super 6 - UDO Audio Polysynth review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- The UDO Audio Super 6 has been a journey we've shared with designer George Hearn and the team since we first saw an early pre-production model.
We now have one of the production models and have been taking a look.
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00:00 Chords
00:31 Overview
02:47 Oscillators
10:52 Some Sounds
13:52 - Filter
17:42 LFO 1 and VCO mode
21:23 Additional DDS waves Firmware and MPE
23:20 Mod Matrix
25:10 more sounds
26:10 Voice assign
27:05 Arp and Sequencer
32:05 FX
34:55 Performance controls and wrap
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3:48 "Plenty of low end coming in from the south, showers of white noise expected tuesday, increasing resonance into the afternoon"
Great presentation! I do love my Super 6 ❤️
Best review of this unit by far and I've watched about 50 of them today. Well done!
Whooooa I've been waiting for this review!!!! what an amazing instrument
Great review as always Nick. Been following the evolution of this beast for some years now and loved my first hands-on with it at Synthfest last year. Mine is now finally on her way and will be with me this Friday.... can't wait ;-)
How do you like it?
Oh dear, I need to spend a lot of money! Stunning synth. Great review, as always :)
Good god. I seriously love the sound this thing makes. I truly hope they keep making great stuff like this.
You should use this beauty on one of your Friday Fun Synth Jams. Thanks for this and all you do!
I didn't blieve in warm power of Digital Oscillators until i'm not found it in Peak, but now the new reality of warm sounds comes even more from this, impressive
Talking Heads BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE
yeah, I think he is missing chorus or something
That was bugging me, thanks.
Burning down the house! My house, is out of the ordinary. That's right, don't want to hurt nobody..
THREE-HUN-DRED-SIX-TY-FIVE-DEGREES!
@BC J BURNING DOWN THE HOUSE!
Beautiful sounding harmonics...and Nick is playing with larger chords and syncopation! Fabulous!
Good God, what an amazing sounding synth.
thanks for the review!
I love the button choice they went with on this synth. Those are my favourite kind of buttons.
This is the best synth channel. Thanks!
Great video and I love how this synth not only looks and sounds great but it doesn't have a screen.
For me, that makes it feel like something from back in the fay only it's brand new.
Well done UDO!
Sounds HUGE. Best demo of it I've heard.
@Sonicstate Wicked review. Thank you.
Thanks for the thorough review. I'm reluctant reading manuals so I learned a thing or two about my Super 6 watching it :-D
I see a Ped/CV modulation source, does it have a CV pitch out on the back and if yes, could you route it into the Pedal/CV in to have a rudimentary keytracking modulation source?
Thank you for sharing, Amazing and unique Synth !!
Lot of competition out there right now, but this is the best sounding poly I've heard demoed. Thanks Nick.
Me too!
Hi Nick, nice review. Looking forward to seeing it in person :) Would love to see some use of the External in/Envelope follower and the Hi-Pass filter. Lovely sounds!
WOW what a beautiful intro Nick!!! 19:19 is slapping.
been waiting for this.. awesome!
Your reviews are so comprehensive, thank you very much for all you do over the years, I really appreciate it. 7:55 Burning Down the House!!!! This synth does look like it burns down the house indeed!!!
Owning it for a couple of weeks, i can inly agree to Nicks opinion - it will never ever leave my setup. Best buy in decades for me. Definitely an instrument of character- intuitive like Juno, so beefy as Moog, versatile: decent warm if you want - or aggressive. A wonderful sounding modern classic. With great haptics too, solid in every way. Soundwise and buildwise 🙂 thanks for the review.
It nailed my experience.
Totally I agree. It was love at first sight and it's the Poly I've always wanted.
Great review!
I would love to see this in module tbh
i agree.
@@mpmi7588 +1
What a stunner. The only synth that I'm drooling for.
A supersaw beast!! Love it
I deeply enjoy those outro minitracks of yours Nick!
I try my best to resist gawking over newly released gear, but *wow*
This is the sort of thing I hoped would come from this new era of synth design, keep the style and sounds of the vintage gear that inspires, and the features and flexibility available with modern tech.
I'll be scheming about this one for awhile.
Gassing for things is a real issue, but I promise you, this is entirely different. This is just a good-ass product.
Resistance is useless... test it and keep it. You will🙂 i had no chance to test it before buy, so I bought it blind, only bAsed on youtube reviews. I was not disappointed one second - but am still overwhelmed. Greatful that i picked one.
Sonicstate, keeping me skint since 2018
FPGA is a way of creating a custom digital circuit by using software tools. When on the device, it's no longer code, but is instead a bunch of on-chip digital hardware (various types of gates, etc. and sometimes specialized cores). It's not magical, but it does let you run at hardware speeds, which can be good for this type of use. It's field-programmable (the FP in FPGA) so there can be, in theory, updates to the circuit after it has been delivered.
I was skeptical at first, but man it sounds so good. Can’t wait to see what UDO make next
Why is FPGA better than traditional DSP?
maybe a modern looking hardware design style ;-)
@Donal Finn yes, that i konw; but wat's so better with FPGA rather than DSP?
@Donal Finn You can have digital without code. Digital just means discrete logic values rather than continuous voltages. For example: the original Yamaha FM chips, are definitely digital, but aren't executing anything we'd call "code".
The difference is, regular code is a set of instructions that are stored in memory and evaluated by a processor at runtime.
In a simplified sense, FPGA is more a set of logic gates (and/or/not/etc.) that signals are sent between at runtime. It's configured, rather than programmed. It can also do much more in parallel as you dedicate different blocks to perform parallel tasks (like reading input).
One is not necessarily better than the other (and neither of them have a "sound"). But the FPGA is more of a hardware solution once the initial work is done vs DSP chip which is a normal code-running processor with specialized functions for signal processing. I think this quote from Sparkfun (posting the link will get the comment moderated, so look up "sparkfun how does an FPGA work" for more info) is helpful:
"However, FPGAs can be far more efficient in terms of processing time as well as offering very tight timing. To illustrate this, let’s look at a trivial example of turning an LED on when you press a button. If you wrote code to do this with something like an Arduino, the processor would run a small loop of code that would read the state of a pin then update the state of another pin based on that value.
If you optimized the code you could probably get this to update in the millions of times per second. That may sound great but let’s look at what it would look like with an FPGA. In the case of simply connecting a button to an LED with an FPGA, you simply connect the button and the LED. The value from the button passes through some input buffer, is fed through the routing matrix, then output through an output buffer. This process happens continuously all the time. The only delay comes from the switching delays of the transistors in the chip, which are incredibly small."
This sounds awesome!
I got to play on one at Synth Fest UK and was blown away, sounded amazing
This is one of the few times where if I didn't know, I'd have thought this was a fully analogue poly synth. It has all the character and warmth of analogue, but with the top end glassiness and shimmer of digital. The best of both worlds in my opinion.
Yes
Beautiful sounding and looking synth
My Novation Summit is giving me dirty looks for watching this...
i was thinking the same thing XD
@@abhayasky What are the chances?
My ob-xa just waltzed over, hugged me and said "hello"
Love your channel, keep it up,
Some lush patches there, Nick. The more that I hear of this synth, the more that I long for one
man, the heft and breadth of those oscillators. I'm sure they won't get lost in a mix!
As an UDO owner I’ve been actively looking at your page every day for this, because I love mine more than I’ve ever loved a synth
Andrew M I’d you get the blue or the black one ? How long was the wait to get yours ?
I'm super jealous
@@LocaliLLocano I initially got the black because damn it looked sleek, but I cancelled the preorder halfway through 2020 because I was anxious about it never coming to the states (which it hasn't) over that time I felt like I regretted not getting the more fun color, blue, so when I ordered via a small overseas music store, I got it in blue :) It arrived a week later, I've owned it for about two months now!
Andrew M hey Andrew did you get it at gear4music? Are you from the states ? How long was the ship time? I like the blue too. It reminds me of a Jupiter 6 and a sporty g shock watch.
@@LocaliLLocano I acquired mine at funkyjunk from the UK - spent 200 on shipping but got it much much earlier.
Beautiful, clean design.
Beautiful!
great review - have been watching this synth with great interest. as a sweaty techno lord I would appreciate more depth in the sequencer, so for now I'm just watching and waiting to see what comes next! thanks sonicstate :)
Absolutely beautiful
Nice one Nick!
as usual, here to hear you say "beef" or "beefy"... :-)
T A S T Y
26:08
@@dezwright3025 8:40
Bristol should make a statue of George with his synth. I mean that in a good way of course.
Dangerous business being a statue these days.
Gorgeous!!!
Amazing Synthesizer, well done England!
I'm going to 2nd another comment posted earlier saying how out of many of the recent poly synths demo'd this year, this one has an excellent engine behind it. The brass sounds at 25:10 remind me of classic Tangerine Dream from their mid-80's time period. Good stuff!
This thing will be my first synth. I've always wondered when to go the hardware way, because softwares nowadays brings you almost everything that hardware has to offer. This is new. This synth will make history!
@BC J the only other one that will buy will be the Essence FM from Kodamo (300 polyphony, 1800 oscillators), but that's it
EssenceFM is great 👍
Hardware wont ever die
Touching keys and knobs is simply unbeatable 😊👍🏼...
Not when it sounds as good as this does. There's no plugin on the planet that'll sound as impressive. Even stuff like Omnisphere sounds feeble and cheap compared to this thing.
@bookmarkthis it's a hybrid.
@bookmarkthis no. It’s not.
@bookmarkthis....the video in which the line "let's listen to the filter, because this is the analog part of the instrument" is said......
Sounds brilliant.
Sounds great.
Great comments on here I learnt a lot
I need this in my life!
It covers the fluffy and mellow registers so well 😍 And it seems the alternate waves exhibit a ppg like quality that I have yet to hear in the current wavetable offerings...
Wow the FM sound awesome !
obligatory “Nick make an ambient album” comment (no seriously though though please)
Some nice kit, that binaural feature is rad!
This is a really nice sounding synth damn.
I love the lack of screen and Jupiter-esque build - it's got something special going on.
it’s a tiny thing but OMG the deeeeep clicks on those rotary switches!
colour me interested as well. I love the whole sound of it and the interface with that sweet 80s polysynth vibe. Sliders are always more appreciated than rotating knobs. Using an FPGA is a clever idea and i was wondering why this hasn't really been done yet on a bigger scale? As someone who's into exact retro console & home computer emulation, i've known the benefits if FPGAs for a while now and it's great to see them becoming a thing in Synthesizers as well :)
When cycling through the arp modes, it seems the mode did not change. Could it be that a changed mode is only applied to subsequent key presses when hold is engaged?
Phenomenal sounding synth, and that binaural mode is awesome. Shame the cost jumped an extra grand from the original planned price, but I get it's hard for a smaller company to do this.
Yeah price point too high, although do want one!
For what you get it’s fair, those are amazing Rossum-designed Prophet filters, 12 of them. Not cheap.
Also it’s built like it costs. Internally, only top quality components that’ll last decades and decades supposedly. Behringer who makes affordable stuff doesn’t use these kind of high-quality capacitors etc. and you can definitely hear the difference. It costs like it sounds. Professional-level instrument here.
You re the best Nick
Love these reviews. What oscilloscope and spectrum analyser do you use?
Great review!! Loved the demos. But what about the voltage controlled high-pass filter inside there...?
8:07 Prophet 5 sync. Could be Burning down the house" by Berie Worrell, Japan "Ghosts," or Pink Floyd "one of my turns". Famous sync sound.
I love love love your reviews, nick. But perhaps you could use headphones or IEMs, so the room reflections due to the use of speakers doesn't interfere when you're deep diving?
The patch at 8:09 was from Burning Down the House (one of Talking Heads' finest moments), which is what you'll be doing with this beauty if you get one.
I can live with the lack of heavy duty patch storage (probably be updated in a firmware update) & the JX3P style sequencer (it's less rudimentary than that, and hopefully may be beefed up with a firmware update), as it sounds so superb.
It's like a cross between a Jupiter 6, 8 and even a DW8000 (ppg stuff sounded very noisy, which is due to the age of the ones I tried or the implementation of less than 16 bit technology), but with far more flexibility that is *easily accesible* due to minimal menu diving. I'm smitten with the layout and instant 'hero value' tweakability.
The price is a bit steep (no bitimbral function as of yet or ever?), but i hope it shifts units cause it deserves to be played and played.
Thanks for a great review 👍
Does anyone know how the keybed's like for this? I tried out the Novation Summit and those keys were so stiff, it sort of makes me worried about the other synths in this price range :(
im looklng for a new polysynth to add up my deepmind 12 and minibrute 2. would you recommemd this for synthwave or should i go for the rev2 or polybrute??
It sounds sooo beautiful..
I do not see LFO 1 there on the 8 modulation sources??? Cant i map other destinations to LFO 1 or can LFO only modulate VCA and VCF ???
that would be so sad, it would only leave LFO 2 which is only Sinewave :(
UUHHHH absolutely here
10:24 "We can Cross-Mod here., we can Cross-mod there, here a Cross, there a Cross everywhere a Cross Cross!" lol
Future CLASSIC!!!
That first funky riff with some jazzy voicings is so unusual to Nick!
I really wanted this thing at one point. Still kinda do. But with the PolyBrute coming out and at a cheaper price with way more effects, routing etc.. I feel that is the better buy at the moment. Especially after what they've done with the MatrixBrute. I think I'll wait about six months to a year and let them do all the firmware updates and stuff. That'll give me time to see how this thing w really sounds and works. Also gives me time to get rid of stuff so i can focus on a smaller set up. Thanks SonicLab
Polybrute does not sound like this.
great review! I enjoyed the time you dedicated to the filter section, that I think sounds gorgeous. Do you know if the "chord" setting (in the unison size) can be assigned as in the chord memory function of old synths? thanks!
As of now it's automatically set to a major chord
That would be dope, you can use the sequencer to do that as a bit of a workaround though
Burning down the house !!
Love it ;))
Sounds, Very Nice ... that saw brass is kinda regal!
Reminds me of the SH201 BEAUTIFUL SYNTHS BOTH
A software editor would be the icing on the cake .
Nick,
Compared to the Polybrute?
What’s your opinion?
hmmm probably not quite comparable. They both seem to go different approaches and sound quite different. Especially the Polybrute since Arturia uses some really weird filters.
i find the poly so much more inspiring. i dont know... i cant follow up on the hype of the udo it def is a solid piece of equip and it does sound good. but thats about it. the lil tweaks like the stereospray through binaural circuitry is nice but nothing that really makes me astonished. And with the pricetag of 2,5K it def should do that. That being said its def overpriced. i understand its a lil boutique fabricator therefor prices need to be a lil higher but from my assumption its 1k too high. Its the Hippstersynth for me! Cool, retrolooks in layout, high quality but overpriced and nothing really new in the end.
User waves can be loaded. 4096 samples, int16, no Wav file header is the format I believe. I have made a ton of these, I am unfortunately still waiting for my preordered synth. Can't wait.
OHHHHHH....YEAH!!!!!!
Hey Great talk !!! I want to factory reset the super 6 but its nog doing how the manual it subscribe. The problem is that when I touch to much keys in a short time it keep hanging is his note. Super shit while performing. Can you advice ?
ok, will be waiting for it to have a wave-table oscillator to mount own wave-forms on
12:00 geez so good turn this into a hit please!!
I'm surprised by the sonic versatility of this synth, didn't think it would be this good.
EPIC
beside the price its fantastic
Good God I need this...
Reminds me a little bit of the Jupiter-6. The Super 6 is pretty cool.
This has to be the best synth I've ever heard, sharp yet smooth top end, fat low end and just glorious sounding overall, it's perfect soundwise IMO.
Nick my dude, let's say I'm a person looking or a polysynth that sounds fantastic but presents the option to fill the hole of straight up only have VSTs where Poly anything is concerned- right now the Polybrute and the Super 6 are entirely the most interesting to me for both covering a lot of ground but sounding fantastic. I would argue the polybrute is even more varied out of the box in terms of sound design with FX and morphing and what have you, but the Super 6 is just... big and ready to sit in a mix and organic and has a very nice sounding filter (not to say the polybrute's filters don't sound nice, but they're almost a bit clean for my tastes.) Would you have a recommendation between the two?