Jewish people don’t complain about Seinfeld because Seinfeld was good and well written. Italian don’t complain about the Sopranos, because the Sopranos was well written. Notice how Black people don’t complain spike Lee movies, or Shondra Rhimes, movies, etc. it’s your movies, TP, that are poorly written and stereotypical. Hire some talented writers. You would be keeping them employed and nurturing their gifts. A lot of people don’t want to criticize him because he’s employing Black people but these are just regular stage people or crew people that keep his business up and running. He need them to work just like any other corporation. But higher black writers and producers that can make your product stand out and be recognized amongst your peers. That’s how you uplift your community.
TP writes almost all of his movies. He prides himself as a write. I think he collaborating once. And if he does it's with Oprah. He getting rich off black people and we continue to support his foolishness. He's in a position to let the younger generation know that they are plenty of black lawyers, doctors, engineers, scientists etc. We just ended Black History month. I remember years ago there would be so many black programs on TV. All kinds. Now there none of substance. Just garbage. Because, the producers of today are young and don't have the understanding or knowledge if our black history. They want to keep the higher ups happy and feed us anything and we go for it. We're to afraid to rock the boat. If one wh..e woman can ban black books in Florida, just imagine what a group of black people could do if we come together. But we are so busy fighting each other. We must do better. Time is running out.
I think the most disappointing part about Tyler Perry is that he refuses to grow and evolve as a writer/director. His work now is not all that different from the church plays he started out producing. The fact that he writes so many projects completely by himself isn't helping him. There's no one to tell him something is ridiculous or doesn't make sense. I could understand sticking to a formula that worked for him when he was trying to become successful. But he's rich enough now that he can afford to stretch a little, experiment, hire good writers and learn from them.
Yeah cause there are so many opportunities out there for Black actors, I mean this should be easy right? Oh and what's the trick? Oh and why isn't everyone else using that trick to get their own studio lot?
My thing is if it wasn’t for people like Spike Lee opening doors we would not have a Tyler Perry so the fact that he would say to Spike Lee to go to hell because he critiques his work is kind of like a slap in the face
If that's so why did he STOP making movies When Tyler Perry Can't seem to Stop Shooting films If Spikes better Why not Prove it Now Yesterday's movies aren't Today's Money
@nelg3334Who doesn't make movies that people can relate to? How can we relate to a man in a dress? The people that wore dresses in my family were woman.
As a white man, that loves Spike’s movies, I felt Tyler Perry was over the top, over dramatized, and exaggerated stereotyped black culture? I felt it was not my place to say anything. I felt it demeaned black folks. Just my opinion. I never said anything before, because it wasn’t my place yet to comment. I felt I can only support black folks that also had a problem with Perry’s movies. Please correct me if you feel I’m wrong. I’m always appreciative to listen.
We are not looking down, we just want better. Dont pigeon hold me. My father worked in a hot mill for 42 yrs, my mother cleaned white people homes to send us to college, to learn, to know how to speak, act, and react, it was hard for them and us as their children. We had a matriarch in our family, he was nothing like uncle Joe. Our grandmothers and aunts were nothing like medea. We come too far and still have a long way to go. To many blacks have died for what little freedoms we have. We're at a point now where everything is a joke. We make fun out even tragedies. It is do sad.
Bro that’s according to you just because you feel that way doesn’t mean everybody has to feel that way me personally I like a few of his movies to be quite honest not every movie I would say probably half of his movies I enjoy and the other half I can literally do without I love the majority of the place he’s ever done and that’s about it I haven’t seen Mea culpa but from what I’ve seen from the trailer it doesn’t look like something I’m gonna enjoy But that’s me but y’all gotta stop making this about Reyes every time I see a black actor a performer or Director it almost is like everybody always has to play that race card in some form or fashion
I only watched two "for colored girls" I think. It was pretty good(tough to watch but good). I have never seen that Madea stuff . Did he do "daddys little girls" ?that was good too but he's not even close to the great Spike Lee
No he’s not he’s giving an opinion and telling the truth and expressing an opinion no matter how ignorant it is his right I’m beyond sick and tired of y’all saying so it’s telling the truth but it’s clearly an opinion
Can’t get myself behind “Madea”, just seems like Spike said. It’s comedy in the same vein as Big Momma’s House, The Klumps, et al. Shallow black comedy!
When producers had Tyler "Toilet Paper" Perry play Alex Cross they destroyed a great film franchise starring Morgan Freeman was developing. "Kiss the Girls" and Along Came the Spider" are excellent thrillers. There hasn't been a new Alex Cross movie since Tyler Perry, that says a lot...
Tyler had No darn business touching that Alex Cross character. He completely sucked . The villain played by Matthew Fox actually made the movie worth watching.
@@sayjay26 understand. I'm not even sure if he asked Morgan Freeman for permission. Probably didn't knowing how self centered TP is. He Definitely was out of his league trying to play a character that Morgan was Excellent as. He needs to take several seats and Retire. 😩
Spike has never humiliated us as a people. He always gives us Black Excellence and work that exemplifies our strength, beauty, genius, and "Blacknificent" stories. I agree with him 100%✊🏾!
I saw once he had a show about a white president with a black first lady. He didn't think that black audiences wanted to see a black man with power and his black wife by his side? I wonder who that show was intended for....
I've said some of the same of the audience. Tyler Perry thinks he's smarter than everyone else. His work is cheap junk food. Spike's work is healthy eating.
I have tried to watch TP stuff. It literally hurts me to sit through his products. The comedies aren't funny and have a recorded laugh after every line. His productions simply make you feel he thinks you are stupid.
I can’t tell you one title of his movies, without googling it😢… it’s long overdue for Spike to do another documentary.. Not sure why Spike discusses Tyler’s productions, when Spike is in a category of his own. His productions are like #aged cheese, 🧀 wine 🍷, cigars, whiskey 🥃 … requiring a #seasoned and mature audience 🖤…
It hurts you to sit through his products? Who talks like that? But MORE importantly, if it hurts you to sit through his products, THEN why are you doing it. You sound insane. Who keeps doing something that hurts them? Seek help as soon as possible
OMG! I thought it was just me! After a few minutes of watching his first film, it felt like someone was squeezing my head. Over the years, I have tried to watch them but get that same feeling. They're horrible!
Since when is “blackness” defined by negative stereotypes? Educate yourself Tyler. Black people have a rich diverse culture and history. Just say, your movies are YOUR idea of who Black people are…that these movies are a reflection of YOU!
Roughly since 1968, about when the civil rights movement became a black nationalist movement, and blackest meant most defiant rather than most rational or most prudent. Today, stupidest = blackest, which is why more black kids know who Sexy Red is than who Kizzmekia Corbett is.
Spike Lee is one of the greatest film makers of all time, the greatest film makes 🎥 of them all is Spielberg, Lucas, Eastwood, Scorssies, scott, Tarantino, Rodriguez, Howard, Woo, and Zemicesis.
I’ve never been able to sit through his Madea plays. My white coworkers always found that strange. Guess they thought I would identify with them. I didn’t…
Tyler Perry tells himself that if he makes a lot of money from, it's good work. Absolutely not! It has become a thing of people only watching to see how insanely crappy it is. He is not a writer. He needs to go to some classes if he doesn't want to hire professionals. I gave up on him 15 years ago. Times have changed and his core audience is dying out. Nobody wants this dumb ish.
Kelly Rowland is the only reason people will watch this movie. She's a clearly under-rated beauty that should have been the next Whitney Houston if her career was managed properly.
@@IamCarrieNotBranshaw At the end of the day, it's her fault I guess...poor management. If she went the classy pop route like Whitney Houston...with her looks she had the potential to capture the world's imagination. However, she needed a cross over pop hit song though.
Yes. He does. Abuse, violence, emasculating black men, deceit, cheating...maybe, just maybe black people identify with it because their lives so closely resemble it. If I think of all the people that watch stuff like this, reality shows, modern black sitcoms all are about the same intellectually...just saying..
I respect what Tyler has built in a short time in the industry. His studios are massive, and being used by many Hollywood production companies. I wish he would simply open his doors to new untapped talent, because his Legacy is intact.
why does tyler only write about black ppl with little to no education? it was funny for a while, but does he not see that we have many who are intelligent and deserve the same attention? none so blind 👩🏾🦯 as those that will not see. tyler should listen to his peers with differing views bc we're getting really tired of looking at our ppl being portrayed that way.
Should have been able to see through his foolishness after movie #2 if not #1. I only watched trailers and that was sufficient to avoid his bufoonery. His response to Spike was the same as his response about KK.
Even when he does write educated characters, he doesn't do it well. Like Why Did I Get Married. Nothing against anyone in the cast. They did their best with what they were given. But that script was terrible and ridiculously over the top.
Ask Tyler about Club Miami, and Ms. Sophia, the V103 personality who was performing the Madea skit years before, ask him about the settlement with Joe and the role he offered him in a movie as his double, to many skeletons Tyler to many nights you spent on the Atlanta scene. Yea he's a downlow brother.
I've always had mad respect for Spike Lee. He has and is doing so much for black people and I've never seen Spike negatively prophet money or disrespect his race. Mad respect for Spike Lee.
When I found out Kelly Rowland was the lead for Mea Culpa, I was so excited; but after I watched the movie I was pissed off. Another TP movie about a black woman sacrificing herself for black men who use her and don’t really seem to care about her. I think Kelly did the best she could with the terrible script she was given. The story was wack, the acting was ok, the message was wack and the way it left me feeling at the end was definitely wack. 0 out of 5 stars. I hope Kelly gets much better roles than this cause I’d love to see her shine in a project worthy of her star status.
WOW! Spike Lee vs Tyler Perry, no contest. Tyler Perry is a bit of a Jim Carry type of character. Spike Lee is an OG director along with other greats like Martin Scorsese, Stanley, Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, and many others. Spike is a living legend, and an icon of the film industry.
Love Spike Lee and his movies, always creative, thought provoking and insightful!! But I can't stand TP and his movies!! For him to ALWAYS portray Black men as liars and cheaters in his movies goes to show his true feelings about Black men in general!!😒
Listen, there’s no time for negativity. For a black grown man to speak ill of another black man, is a sign of weakness. Spike Lee need to get his weight up.
Tyler is wrong bout Italians not complaining bout the sopranos...many Italians groups complain bout the sopranos...they were protesting outside of the HBO office...And as far as jews not protesting against Seinfeld it wasn't seen as offensive to jews like medea is to black folks...
These are the brothers to root for - Barry Jenkins, Antoine Fuqua, Donald Glover, Spike Lee, Jordan Peele, Jeymes Samuel and Steve McQueen. Amongst the running for where Black cinema needs to be in present day, they are leading the charge. Tyler Perry would be doing a service to his production company if he aligned himself with these gentlemen and opened himself to their inspiration for his future projects.
Chile... Everyone isn't gonna like everything & everyone is gonna have opinions . Who cares ? Spike does things how he does things & tyler does things how he does things . Everyone isn't gonna do the same things . People are different . If you don't like it, you just don't like it . Live & let live .
Those spike Lee interview is really old and it’s really shady seeing that they both made up. And for people hating Tyler Perry, he mainly makes comedies and it’s called capitalism. He can make anything he wants because he’s not committing crimes.
why do we have to compare and pit them against each other they're different people why do they even have to hate each other, why cant we celebrate or support our own as people in the black community, instead most of the black community searches desperately for an imperfection like vultures circling their prey waiting for the perfect opportunity to pounce on them. im tired of seeing this trend
I agree with every criticism aimed at Tyler P EXCEPT the argument that he’s wrong for casting an all white cast to one of his shows. Why is he forced to only all black cast members? You can’t have it both ways. If he never casted anybody outside of his own people then he gets called a racist for only hiring his own kind. Imagine the hate Eastwood or Spielberg would receive if they only casted whites only??? 🤔
Tyler made his money on Madea so I’m not hating on him. If you thought they were so bad, why did you spend money to see them? Yes Tyler needs to grow, and hopefully he will so in the future. But there are always going to be different levels of film making.
Deuteronomy 22:5 5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Tyler Perry is a self-aggrandizing, money addict who films his mediocre movies in three days so that is all he'll have to pay his actors for. This is the man who had Cicely Tyson dive headfirst out of a window in his movie! This man is not necessary!
The best movie TP has ever done was "The Jazzman's Blues". That was a great movie with a great plot and made you think outside of the rest of TP's movies which have the same plot line and almost all his movies have the dark-skinned guy as the villain while the light skinned guy is ALWAYS thew savior! TP has a lot more money but his products suck. If you think that you can turn out a great product by writing a MOVIE in one week you get what you get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Deuteronomy 22:5 A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for anyone who does such things is an abomination to the LORD, your God.
In a way, we are Dr. Frankenstein and TP is our monster. We supported TP no matter what and he has become “familiar” with his audience, where he is blinded to certain things and now feels he knows what will sale. He has tuned out the very constructive criticism that will help him. He prides the “writer/producer/ director title, which is problematic for him in a way he may never be willing to see. I love TO. Always will. Want to see him grow in the skills and art of this field
As far I know Spike and Tyler have agreed to disagree. Tyler named a soundstage after Spike and Spike was there when he dedicated it to him. Consume his content or not 🤷🏾♂️.
Black actresses and actors have been talked about by other blacks for decades. By playing maids, butlers, or bucking the eyes and slurring with the speech while shuffling along to portraying pimps, prostitutes, drug pushers, to dressing as woman, etc. the complaints never changes. Keep doing you Tyler Perry. It seems as always the higher the entertainers climb the backlash they get and especially from their own race.
This coming from the same man who cried, begged, and complained about white folks not giving him an Iscar. You don't have to like Tyler, but at least he OWNS an entire movie studio, which he has contril iver. He didn't beg Hollywood for anything.
To be fair to Mr. Perry, to present us a portrait of your family matriarch is admirable. Also, whites also produce the good, bad and ugly side of themselves as a people, I would think that that is the art of the profession and I’d give him a half a pass on. I mean every film can’t be a Ossie and Rubee , Sidney and Diane movie. But you couldn’t find one woman actress to play the matriarch of your family member? In all 79 movies about this one main character with the same plot,YOU had to play the main character? I wished Mr. Perry would had stopped at one and done with this character and moved on into other plots of our black family story. Being that he wants us to identify with him about his experience. Show us another side of us please!
Educate yourself away from your blackness? So being black is a monolith? Perhaps he should educate himself. This is the harshest thing Im gonna say...instead of feeding bottom dwellers we need to challenge and get them out of foolishenss. Tyler does some great things but missing the mark on his true power and influence ...more importantly responsibility! We want to draw into our blackness which is elite
I don’t like Spike Lee but I give credit where it is due. He is correct. I can’t watch Tyler Perry’s movies. Madea was funny for a minute but for all these years?
Spike Lee paved the way for black movie directors. TP should show respect.
Tyler lòk how you and Oprah treat black actresses are you serious. Look who's calling the kettle black. You didn't support your black actresses.
He named one of his theaters after Spike, that’s showing major respect!
@@blucation6060, he told Spike to go to 🔥 how is that respectful?
Where is he now
I see that Spielberg Never stops making movies T Perry never stops Where the Hell is Spike who Lee
There is more integrity, talent and story telling in a single frame in Spike Lee’s worst film than the entirety of Tyler Perry’s catalogue.
Jewish people don’t complain about Seinfeld because Seinfeld was good and well written. Italian don’t complain about the Sopranos, because the Sopranos was well written. Notice how Black people don’t complain spike Lee movies, or Shondra Rhimes, movies, etc. it’s your movies, TP, that are poorly written and stereotypical. Hire some talented writers. You would be keeping them employed and nurturing their gifts. A lot of people don’t want to criticize him because he’s employing Black people but these are just regular stage people or crew people that keep his business up and running. He need them to work just like any other corporation. But higher black writers and producers that can make your product stand out and be recognized amongst your peers. That’s how you uplift your community.
TP writes almost all of his movies. He prides himself as a write. I think he collaborating once. And if he does it's with Oprah. He getting rich off black people and we continue to support his foolishness. He's in a position to let the younger generation know that they are plenty of black lawyers, doctors, engineers, scientists etc. We just ended Black History month. I remember years ago there would be so many black programs on TV. All kinds. Now there none of substance. Just garbage. Because, the producers of today are young and don't have the understanding or knowledge if our black history. They want to keep the higher ups happy and feed us anything and we go for it. We're to afraid to rock the boat. If one wh..e woman can ban black books in Florida, just imagine what a group of black people could do if we come together. But we are so busy fighting each other. We must do better. Time is running out.
Exactly. Thk u.
Those community literally complained. The difference is those creators make way better media than TP has or ever will.
He can’t he’s too controlling- I know someone who worked for him. CONTROLLING!
I think the most disappointing part about Tyler Perry is that he refuses to grow and evolve as a writer/director. His work now is not all that different from the church plays he started out producing. The fact that he writes so many projects completely by himself isn't helping him. There's no one to tell him something is ridiculous or doesn't make sense. I could understand sticking to a formula that worked for him when he was trying to become successful. But he's rich enough now that he can afford to stretch a little, experiment, hire good writers and learn from them.
The first time I saw him as Madea that was my U turn not to watch anything he does.
Yeah I mean why would someone who has been so successful doing it his way change? It makes no sense
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602me too
He's a billionaire why stop?
So Spike's Do The Right Thing was not based on stereotypes? The whole movie is a stereotype and he's pointing a finger .. hypocrisy much?
We as the audience need to be more discriminating. TP is a one-trick pony.
Damn right. We need to enforce standards.
Only if you care.
@@rudolphmcneill515I care that the people making black films with black actors make good films.
Yeah cause there are so many opportunities out there for Black actors, I mean this should be easy right? Oh and what's the trick? Oh and why isn't everyone else using that trick to get their own studio lot?
@@34blackula There are enough black millionaires and people in the industry that can create the opportunities for others…we just don’t.
I'm with Spike.......
Take a seat and have some tea. TP has the utmost respect for the Legend Spike Lee and even name a soundstage in his Atlanta studios after him....
So do I!
@@dorothyd2559So tell me when are these performers going to take accountability for themselves?
ME TOO!!!
@@dorothyd2559 WWWWHHHHAAATTTT??? Listen to the video again. We're not talking about TP having respect for Spike it's about what Spike said..........
My thing is if it wasn’t for people like Spike Lee opening doors we would not have a Tyler Perry so the fact that he would say to Spike Lee to go to hell because he critiques his work is kind of like a slap in the face
Tyler Perry is an old Queen
Lol
😂😂😂
An old blind queen 😅
a rich old queen while you are a broke-azz social media critic...who obviously has an elevated if not bloated view of their own moral superiority.
💯💯💯💯💯💯
Absolutely ridiculous, to say the least, Spike is just keeping it 💯...🤨
I've said it before and I will said it again Spike Lee is 💯💯💯💯 percent is better than Tyler Perry.
If that's so why did he STOP making movies When Tyler Perry Can't seem to Stop Shooting films
If Spikes better Why not Prove it Now
Yesterday's movies aren't Today's Money
@nelg3334Who doesn't make movies that people can relate to? How can we relate to a man in a dress? The people that wore dresses in my family were woman.
Tyler perry been showing us who he really is no different than Oprah
Facts…
And who is he??? I can't wait to hear your response.😂😂😂
@cecegiles7286 who knows 🤣🤣
@@timjones8094 You made a comment you can't back up....pitiful.
@@cecegiles7286 are u in your feelings about my comment or something 🤔
As a white man, that loves Spike’s movies, I felt Tyler Perry was over the top, over dramatized, and exaggerated stereotyped black culture? I felt it was not my place to say anything. I felt it demeaned black folks. Just my opinion. I never said anything before, because it wasn’t my place yet to comment. I felt I can only support black folks that also had a problem with Perry’s movies. Please correct me if you feel I’m wrong. I’m always appreciative to listen.
Black dude here, I can't stand Tyler Perry at ALL. Your opinion is just as important as criticism IS NECESSARY.
Yo white brother yo opinion is perfectly valid
As an African, I felt the same.
At this point, he is creating the culture. Now, other people expect this buffoonry from us, and too many of us obligate.
@@victoriahardin1560 true
Looking over the body of work I have found that he’s actually telling us the same story and using different people to help him
That new movie is just the beginning of his troubles that are coming …
We are not looking down, we just want better. Dont pigeon hold me. My father worked in a hot mill for 42 yrs, my mother cleaned white people homes to send us to college, to learn, to know how to speak, act, and react, it was hard for them and us as their children. We had a matriarch in our family, he was nothing like uncle Joe. Our grandmothers and aunts were nothing like medea. We come too far and still have a long way to go. To many blacks have died for what little freedoms we have. We're at a point now where everything is a joke. We make fun out even tragedies. It is do sad.
100 💯 agree
Tyler movies are not worth watching
it must be be because TP is a billionaire and you are not. Also he employs people and you probably don't. Take several seats and chill.
@@dorothyd2559 his movies are the same bs….
Bro that’s according to you just because you feel that way doesn’t mean everybody has to feel that way me personally I like a few of his movies to be quite honest not every movie I would say probably half of his movies I enjoy and the other half I can literally do without I love the majority of the place he’s ever done and that’s about it I haven’t seen Mea culpa but from what I’ve seen from the trailer it doesn’t look like something I’m gonna enjoy But that’s me but y’all gotta stop making this about Reyes every time I see a black actor a performer or Director it almost is like everybody always has to play that race card in some form or fashion
I only watched two "for colored girls" I think. It was pretty good(tough to watch but good). I have never seen that Madea stuff .
Did he do "daddys little girls" ?that was good too but he's not even close to the great Spike Lee
@@dorothyd2559what does this have to do with her point?
Spike Lee is telling the truth.love spike lee
No he’s not he’s giving an opinion and telling the truth and expressing an opinion no matter how ignorant it is his right I’m beyond sick and tired of y’all saying so it’s telling the truth but it’s clearly an opinion
@@flyguy7825 So, to be clear, you're defending Tyler Perry's coonery buffoonery.
TEAM SPIKE HERE!!!! 👊🏼💥
All the way✌🏾
Can’t get myself behind “Madea”, just seems like Spike said. It’s comedy in the same vein as Big Momma’s House, The Klumps, et al. Shallow black comedy!
When producers had Tyler "Toilet Paper" Perry play Alex Cross they destroyed a great film franchise starring Morgan Freeman was developing. "Kiss the Girls" and Along Came the Spider" are excellent thrillers. There hasn't been a new Alex Cross movie since Tyler Perry, that says a lot...
Tyler had No darn business touching that Alex Cross character. He completely sucked . The villain played by Matthew Fox actually made the movie worth watching.
@@ShugerPlum0263 I refuse to watch it, he killed what was starting to be a great thriller series.
@@sayjay26 understand. I'm not even sure if he asked Morgan Freeman for permission. Probably didn't knowing how self centered TP is. He Definitely was out of his league trying to play a character that Morgan was Excellent as. He needs to take several seats and Retire. 😩
@@ShugerPlum0263 several seats back🤣🤣🤣
I still grieve it. I can't even read the books again. I keep imagining Tyler Perry. Not good.
Spike has never humiliated us as a people. He always gives us Black Excellence and work that exemplifies our strength, beauty, genius, and "Blacknificent" stories. I agree with him 100%✊🏾!
All the way agree and will always respect spike Lee
I left Tyler perry when his nighttime soaps came out. His movies paint the Black Man I a very negative light, so Fugg-Tyler.
I saw once he had a show about a white president with a black first lady. He didn't think that black audiences wanted to see a black man with power and his black wife by his side? I wonder who that show was intended for....
Very true. Those soaps were awful!
I've said some of the same of the audience. Tyler Perry thinks he's smarter than everyone else. His work is cheap junk food. Spike's work is healthy eating.
HOW LONG UNTILL WE PERMANENTLY STOP WATCHING THIS MAN.
I don't watch any of his work. I stopped after Diary of a Mad Woman. His shows are trash.
Unfortunately too many BP watch it. Spanish and even yt people support it.
So Tyler Perry thinks The Sopranos and Jerry Signfield are the same as Madea? 😮
Chile
I’m with Spike 💯 I DID NOT LIKE that new movie. I’m tired of him portraying all black women as being Naive and stupid.
Did he say we are educating ourselves away from our blackness… wow
I have tried to watch TP stuff. It literally hurts me to sit through his products. The comedies aren't funny and have a recorded laugh after every line. His productions simply make you feel he thinks you are stupid.
I can’t tell you one title of his movies, without googling it😢… it’s long overdue for Spike to do another documentary..
Not sure why Spike discusses Tyler’s productions, when Spike is in a category of his own.
His productions are like #aged cheese, 🧀 wine 🍷, cigars, whiskey 🥃 … requiring a #seasoned and mature audience 🖤…
It hurts you to sit through his products? Who talks like that? But MORE importantly, if it hurts you to sit through his products, THEN why are you doing it. You sound insane. Who keeps doing something that hurts them? Seek help as soon as possible
OMG! I thought it was just me! After a few minutes of watching his first film, it felt like someone was squeezing my head. Over the years, I have tried to watch them but get that same feeling. They're horrible!
Since when is “blackness” defined by negative stereotypes? Educate yourself Tyler. Black people have a rich diverse culture and history. Just say, your movies are YOUR idea of who Black people are…that these movies are a reflection of YOU!
Roughly since 1968, about when the civil rights movement became a black nationalist movement, and blackest meant most defiant rather than most rational or most prudent. Today, stupidest = blackest, which is why more black kids know who Sexy Red is than who Kizzmekia Corbett is.
Spike Lee is one of the greatest film makers of all time, the greatest film makes 🎥 of them all is Spielberg, Lucas, Eastwood, Scorssies, scott, Tarantino, Rodriguez, Howard, Woo, and Zemicesis.
I don't watch Tyler Perry's work now, but I did when he first started and his plays always had a positive message. The latter stuff I'm not a fan of
His first movies were great too. Seems like when he met Oprah he changed.
I agree
I've seen one of his plays. It was the same as his movies/tv shoes.
I’ve never been able to sit through his Madea plays. My white coworkers always found that strange. Guess they thought I would identify with them. I didn’t…
Tyler Perry tells himself that if he makes a lot of money from, it's good work. Absolutely not! It has become a thing of people only watching to see how insanely crappy it is. He is not a writer. He needs to go to some classes if he doesn't want to hire professionals. I gave up on him 15 years ago. Times have changed and his core audience is dying out. Nobody wants this dumb ish.
Mea Culpa was one of the worst movies I’ve seen in a long time. It was difficult to sit through it all.
Facts! I couldn't even finish it.
I'm tired of his movies
SPIKE= GOAT Perry =CRAP
Kelly Rowland is the only reason people will watch this movie. She's a clearly under-rated beauty that should have been the next Whitney Houston if her career was managed properly.
I agree, I wish Kelly had a stronger star power. But somehow she’s always second and that’s sad. I
I agree, I wish Kelly had a stronger star power. But somehow she’s always second and that’s sad. I
True. I really liked her and Little Wayne's song! Motivation
@@IamCarrieNotBranshaw At the end of the day, it's her fault I guess...poor management. If she went the classy pop route like Whitney Houston...with her looks she had the potential to capture the world's imagination. However, she needed a cross over pop hit song though.
Very true
Tyler Perry is wrong about Italians, Robert deniro caught hell from Italians about his portrayal of gangsters in all his films back in the 90’s
Tyler DOES NOT HAVE TO HIRE OTHER WRITERS IF HE WRITES AND CHOOSES TO WRITE HIS OWN STUFF❣️🙄✌🏾♥️
Do the Right Thing Tyler. And by the way, proud Italian-Americans have had issues with The Sopranos.
Tyler have a weird obsession with abuse and violence
He make sure that’s all it show in his film
Yes. He does. Abuse, violence, emasculating black men, deceit, cheating...maybe, just maybe black people identify with it because their lives so closely resemble it. If I think of all the people that watch stuff like this, reality shows, modern black sitcoms all are about the same intellectually...just saying..
Tyler Perry is smart, Spike Lee is intelligent.✌🏽2 distinctly different things
Very good. I hadn’t considered that characterization.
I tried to watch Mea Culpa, I couldn't get through it.
Same.
THANK YOU SPIKE LEE
I respect what Tyler has built in a short time in the industry. His studios are massive, and being used by many Hollywood production companies. I wish he would simply open his doors to new untapped talent, because his Legacy is intact.
why does tyler only write about black ppl with little to no education? it was funny for a while, but does he not see that we have many who are intelligent and deserve the same attention? none so blind 👩🏾🦯 as those that will not see. tyler should listen to his peers with differing views bc we're getting really tired of looking at our ppl being portrayed that way.
Tyler Perry does not have the intelligence to do better. He is too arrogant to see how truly terrible his body of work is.
Should have been able to see through his foolishness after movie #2 if not #1. I only watched trailers and that was sufficient to avoid his bufoonery. His response to Spike was the same as his response about KK.
Even when he does write educated characters, he doesn't do it well. Like Why Did I Get Married. Nothing against anyone in the cast. They did their best with what they were given. But that script was terrible and ridiculously over the top.
WRONG....Some of his movies had black lawyers, teschers, doctors and authors.
@@cv8499 how would u change it?
Dear tyler…… after I watched one of your movies I stayed clear from them, absolute rubbishery!!!!
Excellent Commentary 💯❤
Ask Tyler about Club Miami, and Ms. Sophia, the V103 personality who was performing the Madea skit years before, ask him about the settlement with Joe and the role he offered him in a movie as his double, to many skeletons Tyler to many nights you spent on the Atlanta scene. Yea he's a downlow brother.
Wow this is deep! 5:51
I Stand With Spike Lee 😊!
I've always had mad respect for Spike Lee. He has and is doing so much for black people and I've never seen Spike negatively prophet money or disrespect his race. Mad respect for Spike Lee.
" Do the Right Thing" Im with Spike All day 💯💪🏾
There's room for both Spike and Tyler.
When I found out Kelly Rowland was the lead for Mea Culpa, I was so excited; but after I watched the movie I was pissed off. Another TP movie about a black woman sacrificing herself for black men who use her and don’t really seem to care about her. I think Kelly did the best she could with the terrible script she was given. The story was wack, the acting was ok, the message was wack and the way it left me feeling at the end was definitely wack. 0 out of 5 stars. I hope Kelly gets much better roles than this cause I’d love to see her shine in a project worthy of her star status.
WOW! Spike Lee vs Tyler Perry, no contest. Tyler Perry is a bit of a Jim Carry type of character. Spike Lee is an OG director along with other greats like Martin Scorsese, Stanley, Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, and many others. Spike is a living legend, and an icon of the film industry.
Its the same thing with "Divorce in the Black" as well.
Spike Lee can make a movie now. He doesn't so can't talk sh%t about getting black people work when you don't show up with your movies....
Love Spike Lee and his movies, always creative, thought provoking and insightful!! But I can't stand TP and his movies!! For him to ALWAYS portray Black men as liars and cheaters in his movies goes to show his true feelings about Black men in general!!😒
There is room for everyone no need to disrespect the next man
Listen, there’s no time for negativity. For a black grown man to speak ill of another black man, is a sign of weakness. Spike Lee need to get his weight up.
Tyler is wrong bout Italians not complaining bout the sopranos...many Italians groups complain bout the sopranos...they were protesting outside of the HBO office...And as far as jews not protesting against Seinfeld it wasn't seen as offensive to jews like medea is to black folks...
I'm with Spike.
I don’t think the two men are beefing, considering that Tyler named one of his twelve sound stages after Spike!
I believe they have since come to a peaceful understanding.
How can you beef with a lobster?
These are the brothers to root for - Barry Jenkins, Antoine Fuqua, Donald Glover, Spike Lee, Jordan Peele, Jeymes Samuel and Steve McQueen. Amongst the running for where Black cinema needs to be in present day, they are leading the charge. Tyler Perry would be doing a service to his production company if he aligned himself with these gentlemen and opened himself to their inspiration for his future projects.
We need more Spike Lee types.
Chile... Everyone isn't gonna like everything & everyone is gonna have opinions . Who cares ? Spike does things how he does things & tyler does things how he does things . Everyone isn't gonna do the same things . People are different . If you don't like it, you just don't like it . Live & let live .
Those spike Lee interview is really old and it’s really shady seeing that they both made up. And for people hating Tyler Perry, he mainly makes comedies and it’s called capitalism. He can make anything he wants because he’s not committing crimes.
Not really.
*Why did People watch the movie if they know how Tyler Perry is...?* 🤔
why do we have to compare and pit them against each other they're different people why do they even have to hate each other, why cant we celebrate or support our own as people in the black community, instead most of the black community searches desperately for an imperfection like vultures circling their prey waiting for the perfect opportunity to pounce on them. im tired of seeing this trend
SPIKE WAS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT
Spike Lee is class and he is quality, not quantity for the ages to come big facts.
Team Spike Lee!!
I agree with every criticism aimed at Tyler P EXCEPT the argument that he’s wrong for casting an all white cast to one of his shows. Why is he forced to only all black cast members? You can’t have it both ways. If he never casted anybody outside of his own people then he gets called a racist for only hiring his own kind. Imagine the hate Eastwood or Spielberg would receive if they only casted whites only??? 🤔
Tyler made his money on Madea so I’m not hating on him. If you thought they were so bad, why did you spend money to see them? Yes Tyler needs to grow, and hopefully he will so in the future. But there are always going to be different levels of film making.
Deuteronomy 22:5
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Spike we love you.. Thank you for paving the way and giving young men someone to look up to!
Tyler Perry is a self-aggrandizing, money addict who films his mediocre movies in three days so that is all he'll have to pay his actors for. This is the man who had Cicely Tyson dive headfirst out of a window in his movie! This man is not necessary!
The best movie TP has ever done was "The Jazzman's Blues". That was a great movie with a great plot and made you think outside of the rest of TP's movies which have the same plot line and almost all his movies have the dark-skinned guy as the villain while the light skinned guy is ALWAYS thew savior! TP has a lot more money but his products suck. If you think that you can turn out a great product by writing a MOVIE in one week you get what you get!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I stad with Spike, he paved the way for films that depicted our lives, our trials, our tribulations, and power to uplift ourselves.
#SPIKE4LIFE
Deuteronomy 22:5 A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's clothing; for anyone who does such things is an abomination to the LORD, your God.
I'd love to see them work together.
Ummm did Spike Lee forget that he wrote n produced She's Gotta Have It & Girl 6🤷🏾♀️⁉️ Is this the pot calling the kettle black🤔⁉️
In a way, we are Dr. Frankenstein and TP is our monster. We supported TP no matter what and he has become “familiar” with his audience, where he is blinded to certain things and now feels he knows what will sale.
He has tuned out the very constructive criticism that will help him.
He prides the “writer/producer/ director title, which is problematic for him in a way he may never be willing to see.
I love TO. Always will. Want to see him grow in the skills and art of this field
As far I know Spike and Tyler have agreed to disagree. Tyler named a soundstage after Spike and Spike was there when he dedicated it to him. Consume his content or not 🤷🏾♂️.
Funny! Tyler Perry's Mea Culpa reminded me of Spike Lee's, She's Gotta Have It.
Tyler Perry has made millions dressing as a woman in a dress. Maybe because Spike Lee is actually talented whereas Tyler Perry isn't.
A Spike Lee Joint stamp on the movie is ALWAYS top tier and never defeated.
Tyler Perry made a deal with the devil
As an outsider I can’t argue that he is taking the piss out of his own ppl. It’s pretty obvious.
Wasn't the movie number one on Netflix's
Anything can be number 1 on Netflix....
@@harrydred true but means its a financial success
That means a lot of people watched it, not that they liked it.
Black actresses and actors have been talked about by other blacks for decades. By playing maids, butlers, or bucking the eyes and slurring with the speech while shuffling along to portraying pimps, prostitutes, drug pushers, to dressing as woman, etc. the complaints never changes. Keep doing you Tyler Perry. It seems as always the higher the entertainers climb the backlash they get and especially from their own race.
He needs writers his content is trash
I’ve been saying this since day one.
The actors were beautiful but the movie itself was terrible unfortunately
Just as Spike was making gains Tyler shows up in a dress. YA'LL FIGURE 🤔
This coming from the same man who cried, begged, and complained about white folks not giving him an Iscar. You don't have to like Tyler, but at least he OWNS an entire movie studio, which he has contril iver. He didn't beg Hollywood for anything.
We are not perfect
But we are accountable For our actions, And the examples we said
To be fair to Mr. Perry, to present us a portrait of your family matriarch is admirable. Also, whites also produce the good, bad and ugly side of themselves as a people, I would think that that is the art of the profession and I’d give him a half a pass on. I mean every film can’t be a Ossie and Rubee , Sidney and Diane movie. But you couldn’t find one woman actress to play the matriarch of your family member? In all 79 movies about this one main character with the same plot,YOU had to play the main character? I wished Mr. Perry would had stopped at one and done with this character and moved on into other plots of our black family story. Being that he wants us to identify with him about his experience. Show us another side of us please!
INDEED AND AGREED 💯
Educate yourself away from your blackness? So being black is a monolith? Perhaps he should educate himself. This is the harshest thing Im gonna say...instead of feeding bottom dwellers we need to challenge and get them out of foolishenss. Tyler does some great things but missing the mark on his true power and influence ...more importantly responsibility! We want to draw into our blackness which is elite
I don’t like Spike Lee but I give credit where it is due. He is correct. I can’t watch Tyler Perry’s movies. Madea was funny for a minute but for all these years?
RIGHT ON SPIKE!!!!!