Jotaro after being trolled: "For God's sake, gramps! Avdol, Iggy and Kakyoin just died! HAVE A BIT OF SERIOUSNESS!!!!" Joseph: "Seriousness? Listen, kid. You are talking with a guy that, with your age, killed a vampire and four fitness Aztec Gods with the help of a nazi-cyborg, an italian who used bubbles as a weapon and a hot chick who turned out to be his mom after watching her bathing. Seriousness doesn't exist in my vocabulary."
Caesar watching from Heaven how Joseph trolls his grandkid just after being resurrected: "Could someone explain to me why I sacrificed my last reserve of energy for this idiot?!"
Love how part 3 shows for most of its duration a mature and reasonable old Joseph, depicting him as a different person from the happy-go-lucky young idiot from part 2. Then BAM, Joseph suddenly behaves like a happy-go-lucky idiot in the last episode, showing us that that the cocky youngster who defeated four Aztec vampires never completely disappeared 🥲
@@ProjektTakuexactly, i would say that he actially competes with Polnareff lol. Old Pol Pol actually was very, *very* serious at times while Joseph did get serious but not THAT much
@@ProjektTaku yeah true that, but how often do you see Joseph being serious and keeping himself away from goofiness on his fights? He goofed out at the fight with the Sun, the fight against the Empress, the fight against Mariah and was kind of a joke in general, which is something that i didn't like a whole lot because i missed the Young Joseph and felt like it was a bit disrespectful how he was treated in part 3 haha
The old trickster shines through in a couple places, notably with Empress and the D'Arby brothers. Joseph's whole thing is playing the fool so people underestimate him. As a young man, he plays the spoiled delinquent mama's boy, but that character doesn't really work as well when you're 68, so he plays the pompous old fart instead.
simple plan for Dio to defeat Jotaro in this situation: - ask Holly if you can sleep over for the next month while you recover - kiss Jotaro's forehead every night and say "good night sweet prince" - eventually Jotaro will become desensitised, so in one of the last couple days of the month, smack his head with a shovel instead of kissing him; since his guard was down, he'll die.
Joseph: "Come on, Jotaro! It was just a prank! You cannot deny it was funny!" Jotaro: "Wanna hear something funny? I just got a call from a woman you met years ago in the city of Morioh. She told me her child is recovering from a mysterious disease similar to the one Mom had" Joseph: "Sh*t..."
The one counterpoint to everyone universally thinking dio couldnt impersonate joseph is dio spent like 8 years pretending to be Jonathan's best friend, Jonathan could still tell there was something wrong and i think jotaro could too but people have very little faith in dio. Id also think possibly josephs body could send out a similar distress signal, especially since he has his full head and brain
That would prob be a turning point in dio's life, thinking about how he missed the sun and in essence, being human and maybe even start a redemption arc Then again this is Dio we're talking about so yeah
@her_says_stuff I'm just imagining the Frieza speech from DBZA after Goku leaves him DIO: Maybe this is a sign. Maybe I should change. Maybe this is my second and last chance. Maybe... I was wrong. NAH!
@@Acoustic_Screechernah pretty sure dio by that point already realize way to ignore his sun vulnerability and his heaven is already set in motion So most likely become vamp again mindset after all guard dog pillarman is still alive and he can use his dna
To be fair he did already have a version of hermit purple cause of Jonathan's body what we see of Jonathan's stand in part 3 from the body looked like an evolved version of hermit purple
Speaking of vampiric Joestars, there's actually an amazing fan-manga called "Until We Eternally Rest" in which Dio turns JoJo into a vampire with the Stone Mask, and despite of that monstruos transformation and all the suffering it makes him feel, he never stops being a pure innocent being. 😢
You know, this would be a great premise for another Stardust Crusaders OVA movie with Jotaro going solo this time and potentially unlocking a new ability. Maybe he learns how to use Hamon, extends his Time Stop duration, get a completely new ability, or all of the above.
I believe that DIO would never be able to act like Joseph, he is way too cocky and like you said "vampirism makes you think that you are untouchable". so he will probably just blow his cover and get killed in the ambulance or just outside of it (edit, I just finished the vid and you already said it sooo yeah)
I think DIO would wait at the hospital until Jotaro left to investigate his mansion, and tell the Speedwagon foundation he needs to go alone to America to wait for his wife (he would first ask them if she's home), then he would go on his own to reunite with Pucci and accelerate as much as possible the heaven plan, since that would also allow him to travel back time by resetting the universe and become a vampire once again
Overall a bit of a reach tbh, we know that being a vampire can physically change even master hamon users like Straizo. In the measure that Joseph is dead, Dio taking over his body through his blood fully would just be instantly very obvious. Holy would also probably still be ill. I think it would be harder for Jotaro to fight his grandpa’s body than his estranged great great grandpa’s, but he’d still fold him to save Holy, and avenge the other crusaders. Also, it’s a bit convoluted to assume he’d become a normal person again, when his vampiric blood would be the only thing allowing him to survive in Joseph’s body anyways. If the vampiric blood gets neutralized, he just fades away and dies-- just like he did in canon, pretty much. Idk, not your hardest hitter, tbh.
No need to insult the man at the end, it was an interesting premise. I was thinking it could be like a Batman Beyond situation where Joseph doesn’t realize he’s slowly being taken over by the will of DIO until he can’t save himself, a big moment being that recognizes that he isn’t breathing and then DIO shoves his mind to the forefront. Joseph can be pretty obtuse at times and probably wouldn’t be using Hamon immediately after Part 3, all DIO has to do is lay low in Joseph’s mind like how he was when he was burned in the Joestar mansion and manipulate Joseph through his subconscious thoughts and little actions. I think DIO could pull it off considering he is a master of manipulation at this point
The thing is, blood isn't what makes a vampire a vampire, joseph couldn't become one with just blood even if he'd be Dio. Which is what happened in the original show because dio in no way could live in josephs body, however since this is a what-if scenario I think it'd be fair that he isn't a vampire.
here's how i think Part4 would change. Jotaro would stay MUCH closer to Josuke, basically becoming a surrogate father for Josuke, he teaches him new techniques, unique things he could do with his stand, etc. this would make Josuke a better fighter but also closer to how Joseph fights in Part2
Mmm, not sure Jotaro would make the smart choice: in canon he was stupid and pushed his family away and split up to chase Stand arrows (despite already having experience that SPLITTING UP GETS PEOPLE WOUNDED OR KILLED).
Or, hear me out: Swap Soft & Wet and Crazy Diamond. Josuke gets a less physically powerful but still strong stand that can absorb the properties of anything, and Josuk8 gets a stand that's way, way faster and stronger physically than any stand in Jojolion, along with restoration and Killer Queen's exploding bubbles, since CD starts out as Josefumi's stand in this and mixes with KC as normal.
I always thought that maybe Joseph is more likely to become a vampire than just becoming DIO since that is also how Vanilla ice became one, even with the Hamon thing because how would DIO be able to drink Joseph's Hamon infused Blood if it hadn't dissipated in the time it took for them to circle back to his body? Edit: I'd think that Joseph would try and find a way to make a fake copy of his corpse and have it be blown away like the real deal would under the sun, then he'd keep himself in his part 3 physique until he uses his(Joseph's) connections to regroup with Pucci and continue with the Heaven plan. I know he engraved the 14 words on The World but if they ever still need the diary then Josuke would also be at risk, since the other option was Jotaro, and Dio of all people would know that would be better as a last resort, so all they have to do is to get this other young Joestar to repair the diary, and continue their plan as early as when Part 5 rolls around
@@shnx3778 Doesn't really explain how he's able to increase his time stop duration unless getting his skull caved in put enough pressure for him to unlock it, Joseph's blood had to have boosted him instead of weaken, and the explosion is mostly an effect from The World shattering from Star Platinum
About that, I may have forgor, but was there ever an actual reason for why Joseph's blood supercharges Dio? Like, I guess the idea is that getting more joestar family blood improved his compatibility with Jonathan's body, but how is that possible in practice? Did it like, give him resistance to hamon? He sure as heck isn't immune to the effects because the sun still destroyed jonathan's body later.
@@lpfan4491 Dio stated that the elft side of his body heals slower than his right, hence why The World was shattered because it used it's left leg, and Jonathan's body was resisting Dio, so he needed more Joestar blood to strengthen himself, which is kinda counterintuitive but somehow works
Honestly I really didn't like that Joseph survived part 3... He had a nice sendoff, one last conversation with Jotaro as a spirit, a bit of advice. And part 3 ending would be much more impactful showing that going after Dio had a huge cost and repercussions. Holly and Suzie Q would find out about everything, that would've been interesting to see as well since they were mostly left out. Of course this would change part 4 significantly, but I feel like this scenario has potential as well. And Joseph doesn't play a huge role in it anyway. I wouldn't prefer Dio surviving in Joseph's body at all, but I would've preffered to see Joseph die at the end of part 3
I feel the best thing he could do would be to try and find Gorno early on essentially raising him to do what he couldnt and hope his stand can beat Star Platinum while still keeping the heaven plan as the trump card.
Or imagine if he was just a good dad to Giorno and went off into obscurity. Ok no but it would have been really interesting to see Giorno take on DIO's mantle a bit like Hannibal Barca and his dad Hamilcar.
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4ydi had an idea for a story between Golden Wind and Stone ocean that followed the events after Golden wind with Jotro going after Giorno not believing that any son of Dio could be up to good, its all a misunderstanding but Golden experience Requiem v Star Platinum. But your idea is better.
If Jotaro travels with Polnareff, DIO is 100% without a doubt, cooked. Jotaro and Polnareff go to Italy, Diavolo gets his shit fucked up by Jotaro. If Polnareff lives and travels with Jotaro, things are just easier. Same thing happens to Kira, he gets his shit fucked up but isn't able to escape and switch with Kosaku, when there's an extra ally fighting with them. Eventually when Jotaro does kill DIO again and if he hasn't started the heaven plan as soon as possible, then Pucci is cooked. If he does the same thing as setting up Jolyne, hes gonna have to fight Jotaro, and Polnareff breaking Jolyne out of prison and any plus one Jotaro has would drastically change how that part goes completely. Putting it short, Pucci dies quickly, no heaven plan is initiated.
That would be fun. Diavolo thinking he's got the big advantage and then during the stand-off and dialogue, bro just does the same to him as he did to Kira over there.
Dio while in Joseph’s body he would still have hermit purple and hamon, since when he had Jonathan’s body he used Jonathan’s version of hermit while having the world at the time when he was trying to implant a flesh on one of the crusaders. (The World, Hamon and hermit sounds like a scary thing to go against)
@@knightzilver4696 Iirc that has more to do with SC being incompatible with the arrow, since during the flashback he mentions that Chariot Requiem started walking away on its own until he snatched the arrow again.
Would Dio have Josephs knowledge from using his brain? If so the idea of him learning about Santana and recruiting him sounds really cool to me. He could break him out using his stand or having someone else fit for the job do it. Then he could give Santana a stand. Pucci could find one that works in tandem with the pillarman abilities too. That'd be a scary ally, and with Joseph gone the only one with hamon that could keep Santana in check would be Dio.
Ngl Santana is probably dead. Although we never see Joesph kill him there’s no reason for him not have been killed off screen. He’s not a threat to Joesph at all anymore.
Plotwist: what if all this time Joseph after part 3 is actually DIO... He just pretend if he is Joseph and that is why Joseph not give help in part after that
I could see Dio looking for the arrowheads, the gem, and the mask. That or trying to to get Kar's body so he could absorb it, while he's frozen, and his minds panicking.
if dio couldnt be vampire anymore on joseph joestar body he could tell speedwagon foundation that he needed a stone mask to anaylse the source of it(scummy excuse) then use it boom you get young joseph with part 1 dio abilities.
I wanna hear about a story where Dio loses his plan as he becomes joseph He tries to be joseph, and he is dio as an hidden alter ego he recovers his will partialy, in the form that he qanted to make the human land more safe he uses hermit purple and goes on an adventure with a team of atand users, to stop the baddies Hamon and the vampire essence weaken each other. So dio has weak last resort level vampire powers, and no hamon So he has no significant way to deage and stay young He has a challenging body, hermit purple, some traces of Joseph's genius, and U guess the world as well, but in a new form
8:50 imagine Dio going after Diavolo and Kira to recruit them, only for it to turn into a fight, with him having to kill them both and ridding the world of them. Ironic? Hilarious? Hilarious
Considering Holly and Josuke were sick due to DIO's curse, if DIO did in fact survive as Joseph, wouldn't they both succumb to it and die within a few days? Man Jotaro would be wrecked beyond all belief.
@@Ultras_450 He already does one. Just has to hit the legal age now. Man's gonna look at Dolphins a decade from now and and depressingly think how easygoing they have it
I imagine DIO being in Joseph's body the same thing as Diavolo possessing the gang members in Part 5. Joseph's consciousness would be in his body and he still would be controlling, but, unwittingly housing DIO's soul inside of him.
It would be the Superior Spiderman of Jojo. Dio get's an flood of all of Joeseph's memories, and starts getting an identity crisis. He then decides that Joeseph was a waist of potential, as he decides he's gonna be a better Joestar than Joseph.
Now i need a spinoff with dio pretending to be joseph for years, having no stand, powers nor any coherent escape plans so he pretends to be jotaros grandpa which, you know, dio being dio, a polar opposite of joseph on everything would be funny as hell
Honestly, I think one thing that would really let Jotaro go toe to toe, or even surpass, the new enemies and Dio would be the fact that he has discovered/developed his own Time Stop ability now. He would probably just steamroll over the new enemy stand users, and be able to go toe to toe with Dio much better.
No way would Dio continue existing as Joseph. He’d be found out immediately by Jotaro even if he tried to hide it. Jotaro wouldn’t even need to employ the “Weird Al test” to discover it was Dio.
After thinking about it I figured Joseph should have been revived as a vampire the way Vanilla Ice was. Maybe it didn't happen that way since DIO had a bunch of Joseph's blood in him but I would have liked to see vampire Joseph in future parts, that could have been fun.
Jotaro is pretty good at investigation (as seen in Part 4), so I imagine he'd go to the hospital where Hol Horse is being kept if Dio got away in Joseph's body to try and interrogate Hol Horse for information on Dio. Hol Horse likely wouldn't have anything to say on the matter, but it's also pretty likely that Boingo would be there too (and if not Hol Horse could bring up the existence of Boingo as someone who could potentially help). With Thoth, finding Dio isn't guaranteed, but it would give Jotaro a glimpse into the future which could hold some very useful clues as to Dio's whereabouts. I think this is a very possible and useful path for Jotaro to take, and it fits with Araki's style of writing.
I could see a scenario where Hole Horse, Polnareff, Oingo and Boingo team up with Jotaro to take out DIO for good in case he decides and succeeds to take over Joseph's body.
I love to imagine a hypothetical part 4 where Josuke main antagonist is Dio in Joseph's body but he is a vampire from the blood he received so it's Dio in young joseph body against Josuke and Jotaro fit as the mentor as he already is in part 4
Considering Vanilla Ice didn't fully turn into s vampire post-resurrection via Dio blood until after Polnareff mortally wounded him, would it actually be plausible for Joseph to turn into a vampire once he actually dies eventually?
I think Dio would have enough braincells to think “Okay, I’m essentially at ground zero, Jotaro’s alive, and I’ve got almost nothing” and would hang back with Pucci until he recoups his strength and forces. I could very well see part 4 and 5 still continuing like normal with the idea that “oh Dio wanted these people recruited, but high-jinx ensues and now the stand arrow(s) are scattered”. Arguably the only difference now would be Jotaro’s more involved in these stories, which could have implications for later. I say could ‘cause it’s also very likely he’d learn to act like his part 4 self when part 4 is involved, just now he’s more ontop of anything Dio related.
Don't you think Dio would have Joseph's memories and would be able to see everything he knows about the Red Stone of Aja? Maybe he could retrieve it and try to make a mask like the one Kars used and then do the Heaven Plan
I feel like the blood would keep DIO's vampirism, and because of this, something terrifying like Kars would re-exist once more. Being inside Joseph's body already has somewhat of a barrier due to being a hamon user, especially helping with being "used" to it thanks to being Joseph's body. This would mean it's a peak strength vampire due to having mainly vampire blood + joestar blood, and hamon. My bet is that DIO would extinctively punch Jotaro thanks to being point blank, then using the time to break out of the ambulance, regenerate to the fall + speed, then run the hell away. Even better is that DIO would definitely be scummy enough to have Pucci have a stand disc that DIO would like. If this happened, then it would probably be a 100% success rate Eyes of Heaven retake
If this did happen if not the heaven plan then Dio might try to find his children since they were powerful stand users in their own right. Also Araki did say Dio would raise his sons right.
If Dio did escape from Jotaro and hid away with Joseph's body, I would see it going like this; Jotaro is going to be tunnel visioned on finding and stopping Dio which means he would not go to Morioh, so it's part 4 without Jotaro which isn't going to end well. Part 5 is going to be pretty much the exact same unless Polneraff never goes to Italy, instead sticking by Jotaro OR if Dio and Pucci attempt to recruit Giorno. Throughout this constant searching, Jotaro would not feel safe enough to settle down to have Jolyne. At this point, Jotaro would not have the Morioh warriors, anyone from Golden Wind, or the Stone Ocean cast (besides maybe Weather Report) that he could call for back-up. Dio and Pucci would likely go along with their plan to achieve heaven and knowing how intelligent Pucci is they would most likely pull something similar to the first of Stone Ocean where Jotaro gets clapped by White Snake. On the other hand, I don't think Jotaro would sacrifice himself to save Polneraff (like what he did to stop Jolyne from getting shot) because Polneraff would rather die with Dio being killed as well, pretty much doing what Anasui did at the end with Pucci. TLDR; Either Dio would win or in the end Jotaro would have no one left
Since Jotaro would keep looking for Dio and fighting his goons, Jotaro would probably train his time stop to be very long, so it might be able to keep up with Dio’s and he’d once again lose
Another interesting scenario is if Diavolo decided to work with DIO for a little while. (I know that extremely out of character for him but I think of it as him working for DIO so he can use the influence he has to become a boss.)
I don't think Joseph DIO would have The World solely because we saw it get destroyed. I think he'd be stuck with Hermit Purple, as it's the stand of Joseph's Body (similar to how DIO could use the stand of Johnathan's Body)
4:44 but then you would have to take into consideration if dio in joseph's body has The World because there is a theory that dio had two stands. one from himself and the other from Jonathon's body. that is why in the one scene in stardust crusaders when we see a flashback when on of the companions gets controlled by dio that dio has a crystal ball and what seems to be a version of hermit purple. and people guess that dio has the version of hermit purple but Jonathon's body has the world and dio can control both. so the questions begs...... which stand or even both has gone into joseph's body if dio survived as joseph joestar.
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Imagine DIO saying OHHHH NOOOO! like Joseph!
OH MY GOD
Holy shiiit
HELP ME!, OH MY GOD!
@@Optigon3526 when he said that, that was peak voice acting. I could heave genuine fear and terror in that.
@@kumaye9446 same
Jotaro after being trolled: "For God's sake, gramps! Avdol, Iggy and Kakyoin just died! HAVE A BIT OF SERIOUSNESS!!!!"
Joseph: "Seriousness? Listen, kid. You are talking with a guy that, with your age, killed a vampire and four fitness Aztec Gods with the help of a nazi-cyborg, an italian who used bubbles as a weapon and a hot chick who turned out to be his mom after watching her bathing. Seriousness doesn't exist in my vocabulary."
lmao totally in character. i can see joseph actually saying that
Jotaro: You saw your mom naked? Jiji you are a pervert
@@DispencerhereJoseph: Jotaro, I dressed as a sexy Latina bottle lady and seduced some Nazi guards.
*Cesar screams LIAR from heaven*
Me since I still in OG: (spitting my tea)!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Dispencerhere Joseph: I didn't knew also you are lucky you didn't wear a manly bra in your age now
Jojo: what?
Joseph: see my young picture
Jojo: 😳
Love to picture Pucci getting a text (or an email I guess) from Dio that's just like "would you still love me if I looked 68 specifically"
Ahhahahahaha
"I also no longer possess my hot body, I'm still hot though but in a GDILF body and I also have a grandson."
"Look Pucci, it's complicated"
@@johnemmanueldeborja588
Pucci: You were as thicc as shit brick house.
Dio poses in Joseph's old pose
Pucci: And now you're a chiseled silver fox!
Caesar watching from Heaven how Joseph trolls his grandkid just after being resurrected: "Could someone explain to me why I sacrificed my last reserve of energy for this idiot?!"
L9l
simple caesar plot
Love how part 3 shows for most of its duration a mature and reasonable old Joseph, depicting him as a different person from the happy-go-lucky young idiot from part 2. Then BAM, Joseph suddenly behaves like a happy-go-lucky idiot in the last episode, showing us that that the cocky youngster who defeated four Aztec vampires never completely disappeared 🥲
I mean he was still pretty comedic before then, aside from Polnareff I'd say he was the silliest Crusader.
@@ProjektTakuexactly, i would say that he actially competes with Polnareff lol. Old Pol Pol actually was very, *very* serious at times while Joseph did get serious but not THAT much
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Polnareff mainly has 3 fights where he is serious, otherwise he's pretty goofy.
@@ProjektTaku yeah true that, but how often do you see Joseph being serious and keeping himself away from goofiness on his fights? He goofed out at the fight with the Sun, the fight against the Empress, the fight against Mariah and was kind of a joke in general, which is something that i didn't like a whole lot because i missed the Young Joseph and felt like it was a bit disrespectful how he was treated in part 3 haha
The old trickster shines through in a couple places, notably with Empress and the D'Arby brothers. Joseph's whole thing is playing the fool so people underestimate him. As a young man, he plays the spoiled delinquent mama's boy, but that character doesn't really work as well when you're 68, so he plays the pompous old fart instead.
Imagine almost dying, and your first idea when waking up is to troll your grandson.
Fycking madlad.
simple plan for Dio to defeat Jotaro in this situation:
- ask Holly if you can sleep over for the next month while you recover
- kiss Jotaro's forehead every night and say "good night sweet prince"
- eventually Jotaro will become desensitised, so in one of the last couple days of the month, smack his head with a shovel instead of kissing him; since his guard was down, he'll die.
Because Star Platinum isn't also an autonomous defense
@@Greg501- that can save him from a bullet at point blank range.
what about poison?
@@emiliabaran6830 Autonomous defense is autonomous defense, Star Platinum could stop Jojo's heart rate against Dio.
@@Ace4573oh im poisoned! i gotta stop my heart. sorry to disappoint you but that wont help
Joseph: "Come on, Jotaro! It was just a prank! You cannot deny it was funny!"
Jotaro: "Wanna hear something funny? I just got a call from a woman you met years ago in the city of Morioh. She told me her child is recovering from a mysterious disease similar to the one Mom had"
Joseph: "Sh*t..."
Dont you mean HOOOORRY SHEEEET
"You thought you'd face DIO again, but it was me, JOSEPH"
KONO JOSEPH DA
The one counterpoint to everyone universally thinking dio couldnt impersonate joseph is dio spent like 8 years pretending to be Jonathan's best friend, Jonathan could still tell there was something wrong and i think jotaro could too but people have very little faith in dio. Id also think possibly josephs body could send out a similar distress signal, especially since he has his full head and brain
He doesn't know much about Joseph. Hiding your true nature is different from pretending to be someone else.
I wonder how he would react to being able to safely feel sunlight for the first time in over a century.
That would prob be a turning point in dio's life, thinking about how he missed the sun and in essence, being human and maybe even start a redemption arc
Then again this is Dio we're talking about so yeah
@her_says_stuff I'm just imagining the Frieza speech from DBZA after Goku leaves him
DIO: Maybe this is a sign. Maybe I should change. Maybe this is my second and last chance. Maybe... I was wrong. NAH!
@@Acoustic_Screechernah pretty sure dio by that point already realize way to ignore his sun vulnerability and his heaven is already set in motion
So most likely become vamp again mindset after all guard dog pillarman is still alive and he can use his dna
DIO: "Ah. Wait, what happened to The World?"
*Summons Green Green Grass of Home*
DIO: "...What the fu-"
To be fair he did already have a version of hermit purple cause of Jonathan's body what we see of Jonathan's stand in part 3 from the body looked like an evolved version of hermit purple
I mean, an adult with Green Green Grass of Home is pretty much invincible if they aren't stupid, especially DIO
Poor Jonathan. Just when he thought his soul could finally rest, his nemesis took posession of his 70-year old grandson. Damn DIO. 😅
Speaking of vampiric Joestars, there's actually an amazing fan-manga called "Until We Eternally Rest" in which Dio turns JoJo into a vampire with the Stone Mask, and despite of that monstruos transformation and all the suffering it makes him feel, he never stops being a pure innocent being. 😢
You know, this would be a great premise for another Stardust Crusaders OVA movie with Jotaro going solo this time and potentially unlocking a new ability. Maybe he learns how to use Hamon, extends his Time Stop duration, get a completely new ability, or all of the above.
Or even gets Star Platinum Requiem
Or even better............. Yare yare daze......This is my peak...... Star Prachinam Over Heaven
@@johnemmanueldeborja588or even better…. You stop typing…. With so many ellipses….
I believe that DIO would never be able to act like Joseph, he is way too cocky and like you said "vampirism makes you think that you are untouchable". so he will probably just blow his cover and get killed in the ambulance or just outside of it (edit, I just finished the vid and you already said it sooo yeah)
Him immediately revealing himself and taunting Jotaro is completely in character for DIO
The idea Of Jotaro Hinting down Diospeh and getting stronger and stronger while Dio is going through a existential crisis is hilaous
this would be just another episode of kosaku kowujiri episode, like when kira took over someones life, but the stakes are high on this one
I think DIO would wait at the hospital until Jotaro left to investigate his mansion, and tell the Speedwagon foundation he needs to go alone to America to wait for his wife (he would first ask them if she's home), then he would go on his own to reunite with Pucci and accelerate as much as possible the heaven plan, since that would also allow him to travel back time by resetting the universe and become a vampire once again
Overall a bit of a reach tbh, we know that being a vampire can physically change even master hamon users like Straizo. In the measure that Joseph is dead, Dio taking over his body through his blood fully would just be instantly very obvious. Holy would also probably still be ill. I think it would be harder for Jotaro to fight his grandpa’s body than his estranged great great grandpa’s, but he’d still fold him to save Holy, and avenge the other crusaders.
Also, it’s a bit convoluted to assume he’d become a normal person again, when his vampiric blood would be the only thing allowing him to survive in Joseph’s body anyways. If the vampiric blood gets neutralized, he just fades away and dies-- just like he did in canon, pretty much. Idk, not your hardest hitter, tbh.
No need to insult the man at the end, it was an interesting premise. I was thinking it could be like a Batman Beyond situation where Joseph doesn’t realize he’s slowly being taken over by the will of DIO until he can’t save himself, a big moment being that recognizes that he isn’t breathing and then DIO shoves his mind to the forefront. Joseph can be pretty obtuse at times and probably wouldn’t be using Hamon immediately after Part 3, all DIO has to do is lay low in Joseph’s mind like how he was when he was burned in the Joestar mansion and manipulate Joseph through his subconscious thoughts and little actions. I think DIO could pull it off considering he is a master of manipulation at this point
The thing is, blood isn't what makes a vampire a vampire, joseph couldn't become one with just blood even if he'd be Dio. Which is what happened in the original show because dio in no way could live in josephs body, however since this is a what-if scenario I think it'd be fair that he isn't a vampire.
here's how i think Part4 would change. Jotaro would stay MUCH closer to Josuke, basically becoming a surrogate father for Josuke, he teaches him new techniques, unique things he could do with his stand, etc. this would make Josuke a better fighter but also closer to how Joseph fights in Part2
Mmm, not sure Jotaro would make the smart choice: in canon he was stupid and pushed his family away and split up to chase Stand arrows (despite already having experience that SPLITTING UP GETS PEOPLE WOUNDED OR KILLED).
A Josuke swap would be a cool 2 part video, Gappy in DiU and Josuke in Jojolion
Or, hear me out: Swap Soft & Wet and Crazy Diamond. Josuke gets a less physically powerful but still strong stand that can absorb the properties of anything, and Josuk8 gets a stand that's way, way faster and stronger physically than any stand in Jojolion, along with restoration and Killer Queen's exploding bubbles, since CD starts out as Josefumi's stand in this and mixes with KC as normal.
@@ProjektTakudang sounds awesome actually
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That sounds so busted.
Or imagine. Hundreds of smaller killer queens restoring things wrong
@@dravendarkplays9607 Lol, insane.
@@ProjektTaku Ah, my favorite JoJo Part 8 Stand
Killer Cueen
I always thought that maybe Joseph is more likely to become a vampire than just becoming DIO since that is also how Vanilla ice became one, even with the Hamon thing because how would DIO be able to drink Joseph's Hamon infused Blood if it hadn't dissipated in the time it took for them to circle back to his body?
Edit: I'd think that Joseph would try and find a way to make a fake copy of his corpse and have it be blown away like the real deal would under the sun, then he'd keep himself in his part 3 physique until he uses his(Joseph's) connections to regroup with Pucci and continue with the Heaven plan. I know he engraved the 14 words on The World but if they ever still need the diary then Josuke would also be at risk, since the other option was Jotaro, and Dio of all people would know that would be better as a last resort, so all they have to do is to get this other young Joestar to repair the diary, and continue their plan as early as when Part 5 rolls around
Dio was weakened when He drank Josephs blood so after the high wore off his body kinda explodes from star platinums punch.
@@shnx3778 Doesn't really explain how he's able to increase his time stop duration unless getting his skull caved in put enough pressure for him to unlock it, Joseph's blood had to have boosted him instead of weaken, and the explosion is mostly an effect from The World shattering from Star Platinum
About that, I may have forgor, but was there ever an actual reason for why Joseph's blood supercharges Dio? Like, I guess the idea is that getting more joestar family blood improved his compatibility with Jonathan's body, but how is that possible in practice? Did it like, give him resistance to hamon? He sure as heck isn't immune to the effects because the sun still destroyed jonathan's body later.
@@lpfan4491 Dio stated that the elft side of his body heals slower than his right, hence why The World was shattered because it used it's left leg, and Jonathan's body was resisting Dio, so he needed more Joestar blood to strengthen himself, which is kinda counterintuitive but somehow works
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I just imagine Jotaro reaching DIOSEPH with a 20 minutes timestop after having to defeat 700 generic stand users on his way 😭
Honestly I really didn't like that Joseph survived part 3...
He had a nice sendoff, one last conversation with Jotaro as a spirit, a bit of advice. And part 3 ending would be much more impactful showing that going after Dio had a huge cost and repercussions. Holly and Suzie Q would find out about everything, that would've been interesting to see as well since they were mostly left out.
Of course this would change part 4 significantly, but I feel like this scenario has potential as well. And Joseph doesn't play a huge role in it anyway.
I wouldn't prefer Dio surviving in Joseph's body at all, but I would've preffered to see Joseph die at the end of part 3
Yeah, killing Joseph would have actually warranted his silly ass end.
IMO let Kakyoin survive the Dio fight instead TBH.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573That would be interesting as well
Another W video as usual 😮💨🤝🏿
I feel the best thing he could do would be to try and find Gorno early on essentially raising him to do what he couldnt and hope his stand can beat Star Platinum while still keeping the heaven plan as the trump card.
Or imagine if he was just a good dad to Giorno and went off into obscurity. Ok no but it would have been really interesting to see Giorno take on DIO's mantle a bit like Hannibal Barca and his dad Hamilcar.
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4ydi had an idea for a story between Golden Wind and Stone ocean that followed the events after Golden wind with Jotro going after Giorno not believing that any son of Dio could be up to good, its all a misunderstanding but Golden experience Requiem v Star Platinum.
But your idea is better.
Ngl I’d love the idea of Joseph and Dio sharing a body
If Jotaro travels with Polnareff, DIO is 100% without a doubt, cooked. Jotaro and Polnareff go to Italy, Diavolo gets his shit fucked up by Jotaro. If Polnareff lives and travels with Jotaro, things are just easier. Same thing happens to Kira, he gets his shit fucked up but isn't able to escape and switch with Kosaku, when there's an extra ally fighting with them.
Eventually when Jotaro does kill DIO again and if he hasn't started the heaven plan as soon as possible, then Pucci is cooked. If he does the same thing as setting up Jolyne, hes gonna have to fight Jotaro, and Polnareff breaking Jolyne out of prison and any plus one Jotaro has would drastically change how that part goes completely. Putting it short, Pucci dies quickly, no heaven plan is initiated.
That would be fun. Diavolo thinking he's got the big advantage and then during the stand-off and dialogue, bro just does the same to him as he did to Kira over there.
This sounds so fast that Jolene would be too young to frame
How strong would be Jotaro if he didn't take a break
Part 6 would have ended in just 5 episodes or he would be able to save Joylene and kill Pucci preventing the reset
Dio while in Joseph’s body he would still have hermit purple and hamon, since when he had Jonathan’s body he used Jonathan’s version of hermit while having the world at the time when he was trying to implant a flesh on one of the crusaders. (The World, Hamon and hermit sounds like a scary thing to go against)
DIO would be caught the moment he tries to say "OH MY GOD" and instead yells "OH MY ME".
3:20 dio,jonathan,jotaro and joseph are all the same height lmao
As established in GoldenWind, he would still have The World as his stand not hermit purple as seen in the manga/show
But yeah would be nuts
As established in Stardust crusaders, he also managed to use Jonathan's hermit purple-like stand, so he would probably just have both.
In golden wind didn’t polnareff lose SC after his real body lost control and died?
@@knightzilver4696 Iirc that has more to do with SC being incompatible with the arrow, since during the flashback he mentions that Chariot Requiem started walking away on its own until he snatched the arrow again.
Well that'd be a weird family reunion for Josuke
I'm hyped for a part 2! 😁 Honestly this is a pretty interesting and comedic idea at the same time
Would Dio have Josephs knowledge from using his brain? If so the idea of him learning about Santana and recruiting him sounds really cool to me. He could break him out using his stand or having someone else fit for the job do it. Then he could give Santana a stand. Pucci could find one that works in tandem with the pillarman abilities too. That'd be a scary ally, and with Joseph gone the only one with hamon that could keep Santana in check would be Dio.
And he would also tries to bring back Kars, thinking that he would also keep Kars in check, only to be eaten out by Kars
Ngl Santana is probably dead. Although we never see Joesph kill him there’s no reason for him not have been killed off screen. He’s not a threat to Joesph at all anymore.
@@kirbtheblob I'm pretty sure the Speedwagon foundation can't even kill him.
@@Ultras_450 how?
@@ProjektTaku I mean some how. Like using C moon to manipulate gravity to bring him back
Plotwist: what if all this time Joseph after part 3 is actually DIO... He just pretend if he is Joseph and that is why Joseph not give help in part after that
Tell me why tf Jotaro looks more like a 17 year old in the part 3 flashback in stone ocean than he ever did in actual part 3
The fact that Dio has to run away in Joesph’s body is actually hilarious
Imagine DIO having to go through his own Kosaku Kawajiri arc, but it's Joseph Joestar...
I could see Dio looking for the arrowheads, the gem, and the mask. That or trying to to get Kar's body so he could absorb it, while he's frozen, and his minds panicking.
if dio couldnt be vampire anymore on joseph joestar body he could tell speedwagon foundation that he needed a stone mask to anaylse the source of it(scummy excuse) then use it boom you get young joseph with part 1 dio abilities.
Dio:"You guys still have a stone mask?"
Speedwagon Foundation:"Nah, we destroyed all of them. Danger > Historical importance."
Dio:"Oh no!"
What if that first PillarMan, Santiago came back and turned good?
I wanna hear about a story
where Dio loses his plan as he becomes joseph
He tries to be joseph, and he is dio as an hidden alter ego
he recovers his will partialy, in the form that he qanted to make the human land more safe
he uses hermit purple and goes on an adventure with a team of atand users, to stop the baddies
Hamon and the vampire essence weaken each other. So dio has weak last resort level vampire powers, and no hamon
So he has no significant way to deage and stay young
He has a challenging body, hermit purple, some traces of Joseph's genius, and U guess the world as well, but in a new form
8:50 imagine Dio going after Diavolo and Kira to recruit them, only for it to turn into a fight, with him having to kill them both and ridding the world of them. Ironic? Hilarious? Hilarious
If that happens would DIO have a british accent. Jospeh speaking in a british accent would be funny.
Considering Holly and Josuke were sick due to DIO's curse, if DIO did in fact survive as Joseph, wouldn't they both succumb to it and die within a few days?
Man Jotaro would be wrecked beyond all belief.
He would become a depressed drunker or smoker for a few years
@@Ultras_450 He already does one. Just has to hit the legal age now. Man's gonna look at Dolphins a decade from now and and depressingly think how easygoing they have it
It was due to the distress signals of Jonathan's body, so unless Joseph's body would also sent a distress signal, they would be fine
@@brogeefrong i don't see why it wouldn't. Dio caused it to begin with, I'm sure his presence would continue it
I imagine DIO being in Joseph's body the same thing as Diavolo possessing the gang members in Part 5. Joseph's consciousness would be in his body and he still would be controlling, but, unwittingly housing DIO's soul inside of him.
Unless i m understanding something wrong, you can be a vampire while knowing hamon (dire straight) you just cant use it.
It would be the Superior Spiderman of Jojo. Dio get's an flood of all of Joeseph's memories, and starts getting an identity crisis. He then decides that Joeseph was a waist of potential, as he decides he's gonna be a better Joestar than Joseph.
I love imagining that if his cover is blown he'd actually say "aaaaah you got me." like a cartoon villain and just die moments later 💀 [ 12:13 ]
Just imagine if Joseph's consciousness is still in the body while DIO is in control? In a sense this sorta reminds me of Sukuna for some weird reason.
Now i need a spinoff with dio pretending to be joseph for years, having no stand, powers nor any coherent escape plans so he pretends to be jotaros grandpa which, you know, dio being dio, a polar opposite of joseph on everything would be funny as hell
Honestly, I think one thing that would really let Jotaro go toe to toe, or even surpass, the new enemies and Dio would be the fact that he has discovered/developed his own Time Stop ability now.
He would probably just steamroll over the new enemy stand users, and be able to go toe to toe with Dio much better.
“Where did my meat go?”
No way would Dio continue existing as Joseph. He’d be found out immediately by Jotaro even if he tried to hide it. Jotaro wouldn’t even need to employ the “Weird Al test” to discover it was Dio.
After thinking about it I figured Joseph should have been revived as a vampire the way Vanilla Ice was. Maybe it didn't happen that way since DIO had a bunch of Joseph's blood in him but I would have liked to see vampire Joseph in future parts, that could have been fun.
Jotaro is pretty good at investigation (as seen in Part 4), so I imagine he'd go to the hospital where Hol Horse is being kept if Dio got away in Joseph's body to try and interrogate Hol Horse for information on Dio. Hol Horse likely wouldn't have anything to say on the matter, but it's also pretty likely that Boingo would be there too (and if not Hol Horse could bring up the existence of Boingo as someone who could potentially help). With Thoth, finding Dio isn't guaranteed, but it would give Jotaro a glimpse into the future which could hold some very useful clues as to Dio's whereabouts. I think this is a very possible and useful path for Jotaro to take, and it fits with Araki's style of writing.
I could see a scenario where Hole Horse, Polnareff, Oingo and Boingo team up with Jotaro to take out DIO for good in case he decides and succeeds to take over Joseph's body.
I love to imagine a hypothetical part 4 where Josuke main antagonist is Dio in Joseph's body but he is a vampire from the blood he received so it's Dio in young joseph body against Josuke and Jotaro fit as the mentor as he already is in part 4
would love to see a video about if jotaro and polnareff switched and jotaro caught diavalo instead of polnareff
Part 4 Polnareff
Jotaro would have ended Diovalo
Imagine Dio running around in a vampirized younger version of Joseph after using the stone mask. Would be a crazy villain.
I guess if he did come back the way Joseph played it, he would be dead.
This scenario is some crazy scenario and yet it's very interesting !
What if Joseph's body starts sending a signal. Holly would die, and there would be no part 4.
“you thought I was simply your grandfather! BUT IT WAS ME! DIO!”
Considering Vanilla Ice didn't fully turn into s vampire post-resurrection via Dio blood until after Polnareff mortally wounded him, would it actually be plausible for Joseph to turn into a vampire once he actually dies eventually?
I think Dio would have enough braincells to think “Okay, I’m essentially at ground zero, Jotaro’s alive, and I’ve got almost nothing” and would hang back with Pucci until he recoups his strength and forces. I could very well see part 4 and 5 still continuing like normal with the idea that “oh Dio wanted these people recruited, but high-jinx ensues and now the stand arrow(s) are scattered”. Arguably the only difference now would be Jotaro’s more involved in these stories, which could have implications for later. I say could ‘cause it’s also very likely he’d learn to act like his part 4 self when part 4 is involved, just now he’s more ontop of anything Dio related.
Don't you think Dio would have Joseph's memories and would be able to see everything he knows about the Red Stone of Aja?
Maybe he could retrieve it and try to make a mask like the one Kars used and then do the Heaven Plan
I like to think the blood normally would possess somebody, but in this case Joseph's latent hamon resisted, and only allowed Joseph's blood through.
i would love to hear Matt Mercer's jotaro say "G what's goin on why you trippin"
I feel like the blood would keep DIO's vampirism, and because of this, something terrifying like Kars would re-exist once more. Being inside Joseph's body already has somewhat of a barrier due to being a hamon user, especially helping with being "used" to it thanks to being Joseph's body. This would mean it's a peak strength vampire due to having mainly vampire blood + joestar blood, and hamon. My bet is that DIO would extinctively punch Jotaro thanks to being point blank, then using the time to break out of the ambulance, regenerate to the fall + speed, then run the hell away. Even better is that DIO would definitely be scummy enough to have Pucci have a stand disc that DIO would like. If this happened, then it would probably be a 100% success rate Eyes of Heaven retake
A part 2 to this video would be awesome
Thank you Kaleb very cool.
If this did happen if not the heaven plan then Dio might try to find his children since they were powerful stand users in their own right. Also Araki did say Dio would raise his sons right.
Then his strongest son would be Ungalo not Giorno Giovanna
The more understandable is dios blood may have made joseph slightly vampiric
A wise man once said: "OH MY GOD!!!"
If Dio did escape from Jotaro and hid away with Joseph's body, I would see it going like this;
Jotaro is going to be tunnel visioned on finding and stopping Dio which means he would not go to Morioh, so it's part 4 without Jotaro which isn't going to end well. Part 5 is going to be pretty much the exact same unless Polneraff never goes to Italy, instead sticking by Jotaro OR if Dio and Pucci attempt to recruit Giorno. Throughout this constant searching, Jotaro would not feel safe enough to settle down to have Jolyne. At this point, Jotaro would not have the Morioh warriors, anyone from Golden Wind, or the Stone Ocean cast (besides maybe Weather Report) that he could call for back-up. Dio and Pucci would likely go along with their plan to achieve heaven and knowing how intelligent Pucci is they would most likely pull something similar to the first of Stone Ocean where Jotaro gets clapped by White Snake. On the other hand, I don't think Jotaro would sacrifice himself to save Polneraff (like what he did to stop Jolyne from getting shot) because Polneraff would rather die with Dio being killed as well, pretty much doing what Anasui did at the end with Pucci.
TLDR; Either Dio would win or in the end Jotaro would have no one left
i mean, Dio literally had 2 stands, its only showed once but he also have a kind of hermit purple
Quick question: Wouldn't Giorno technically be part vampire, even if it's a small amount?
Since Jotaro would keep looking for Dio and fighting his goons, Jotaro would probably train his time stop to be very long, so it might be able to keep up with Dio’s and he’d once again lose
Guys dio would keep his stand it's still his spirit in his body
Recall dio had agents throughout
Another interesting scenario is if Diavolo decided to work with DIO for a little while. (I know that extremely out of character for him but I think of it as him working for DIO so he can use the influence he has to become a boss.)
I like to think Joseph's body just purified the blood. Hamon is a vampires kryptonite after all
Great video but also shout out to the spicy thumbnail
The hwaven plan cannot happen here since Jotaro read the diary.
He'd know that they want to go to the Kennedy Space Center.
I don't think Joseph DIO would have The World solely because we saw it get destroyed. I think he'd be stuck with Hermit Purple, as it's the stand of Joseph's Body (similar to how DIO could use the stand of Johnathan's Body)
Except no, that's not really how stand's work. If Dio's still alive, The World is still his. Its his fighting spirit.
Heh that would be the only silly irony that needed to happen to DIO in my book, and it would have forced him to act way smarter.
@@ProjektTaku Then where's Silver Chariot on Turtle Polnareff?
@@whambamduel cause turning into a requiem made it go wild and detach from Polnareff due to him not being able to control. Very strange circumstances.
@@whambamdueldid you just not pay attention tf
He could probably find a stone mask being researched from the speedwagon foundation
08:50-09:15. Flesh Buds? Zombification?
4:44 but then you would have to take into consideration if dio in joseph's body has The World because there is a theory that dio had two stands. one from himself and the other from Jonathon's body. that is why in the one scene in stardust crusaders when we see a flashback when on of the companions gets controlled by dio that dio has a crystal ball and what seems to be a version of hermit purple. and people guess that dio has the version of hermit purple but Jonathon's body has the world and dio can control both. so the questions begs...... which stand or even both has gone into joseph's body if dio survived as joseph joestar.
What do you mean, what if? Dio just saw his opportunity to live out a peaceful and wealthy end of life and took it with his perfect acting.
Explains the cheating on Suzie lol.
German Engineering Hospital Technology Revived Joseph
Time stop + star finger + ora ora ora
Alright yeah, I wanna see a continuation of this as a stream or something
Honestly I’m interested to see what could’ve happened (even if it barely changes things)
KONO DIO DA said the zesty vampire that is a generational hater calmly.
OH MY GOOOOOD from dio would be a giggle