What if Dio Survived as Joseph Joestar?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.พ. 2024
- Joseph, Dio, I'mma keep it a stack with you.
You still not beating Gok- er I mean, Jotaro.
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Imagine DIO saying OHHHH NOOOO! like Joseph!
OH MY GOD
Holy shiiit
HELP ME!, OH MY GOD!
@@Optigon3526 when he said that, that was peak voice acting. I could heave genuine fear and terror in that.
@@kumaye9446 same
Jotaro after being trolled: "For God's sake, gramps! Avdol, Iggy and Kakyoin just died! HAVE A BIT OF SERIOUSNESS!!!!"
Joseph: "Seriousness? Listen, kid. You are talking with a guy that, with your age, killed a vampire and four fitness Aztec Gods with the help of a nazi-cyborg, an italian who used bubbles as a weapon and a hot chick who turned out to be his mom after watching her bathing. Seriousness doesn't exist in my vocabulary."
lmao totally in character. i can see joseph actually saying that
Jotaro: You saw your mom naked? Jiji you are a pervert
@@DispencerhereJoseph: Jotaro, I dressed as a sexy Latina bottle lady and seduced some Nazi guards.
*Cesar screams LIAR from heaven*
Me since I still in OG: (spitting my tea)!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Dispencerhere Joseph: I didn't knew also you are lucky you didn't wear a manly bra in your age now
Jojo: what?
Joseph: see my young picture
Jojo: 😳
Love to picture Pucci getting a text (or an email I guess) from Dio that's just like "would you still love me if I looked 68 specifically"
Ahhahahahaha
"I also no longer possess my hot body, I'm still hot though but in a GDILF body and I also have a grandson."
"Look Pucci, it's complicated"
@@johnemmanueldeborja588
Pucci: You were as thicc as shit brick house.
Dio poses in Joseph's old pose
Pucci: And now you're a chiseled silver fox!
Caesar watching from Heaven how Joseph trolls his grandkid just after being resurrected: "Could someone explain to me why I sacrificed my last reserve of energy for this idiot?!"
L9l
Love how part 3 shows for most of its duration a mature and reasonable old Joseph, depicting him as a different person from the happy-go-lucky young idiot from part 2. Then BAM, Joseph suddenly behaves like a happy-go-lucky idiot in the last episode, showing us that that the cocky youngster who defeated four Aztec vampires never completely disappeared 🥲
I mean he was still pretty comedic before then, aside from Polnareff I'd say he was the silliest Crusader.
@@projekttaku1exactly, i would say that he actially competes with Polnareff lol. Old Pol Pol actually was very, *very* serious at times while Joseph did get serious but not THAT much
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Polnareff mainly has 3 fights where he is serious, otherwise he's pretty goofy.
@@projekttaku1 yeah true that, but how often do you see Joseph being serious and keeping himself away from goofiness on his fights? He goofed out at the fight with the Sun, the fight against the Empress, the fight against Mariah and was kind of a joke in general, which is something that i didn't like a whole lot because i missed the Young Joseph and felt like it was a bit disrespectful how he was treated in part 3 haha
The old trickster shines through in a couple places, notably with Empress and the D'Arby brothers. Joseph's whole thing is playing the fool so people underestimate him. As a young man, he plays the spoiled delinquent mama's boy, but that character doesn't really work as well when you're 68, so he plays the pompous old fart instead.
Imagine almost dying, and your first idea when waking up is to troll your grandson.
Fycking madlad.
"You thought you'd face DIO again, but it was me, JOSEPH"
The one counterpoint to everyone universally thinking dio couldnt impersonate joseph is dio spent like 8 years pretending to be Jonathan's best friend, Jonathan could still tell there was something wrong and i think jotaro could too but people have very little faith in dio. Id also think possibly josephs body could send out a similar distress signal, especially since he has his full head and brain
DIO: "Ah. Wait, what happened to The World?"
*Summons Green Green Grass of Home*
DIO: "...What the fu-"
Joseph: "Come on, Jotaro! It was just a prank! You cannot deny it was funny!"
Jotaro: "Wanna hear sonmthing funny? I just got a call from a woman you met years ago in the city of Morioh. She told me her child is recovering from a mysterious disease similar to the one Mom had"
Joseph: "Sh*t..."
Speaking of vampiric Joestars, there's actually an amazing fan-manga called "Until We Eternally Rest" in which Dio turns JoJo into a vampire with the Stone Mask, and despite of that monstruos transformation and all the suffering it makes him feel, he never stops being a pure innocent being. 😢
simple plan for Dio to defeat Jotaro in this situation:
- ask Holly if you can sleep over for the next month while you recover
- kiss Jotaro's forehead every night and say "good night sweet prince"
- eventually Jotaro will become desensitised, so in one of the last couple days of the month, smack his head with a shovel instead of kissing him; since his guard was down, he'll die.
Because Star Platinum isn't also an autonomous defense
@@Greg501- that can save him from a bullet at point blank range.
what about poison?
@@emiliabaran6830 Autonomous defense is autonomous defense, Star Platinum could stop Jojo's heart rate against Dio.
@@Ace4573oh im poisoned! i gotta stop my heart. sorry to disappoint you but that wont help
Poor Jonathan. Just when he thought his soul could finally rest, his nemesis took posession of his 70-year old grandson. Damn DIO. 😅
You know, this would be a great premise for another Stardust Crusaders OVA movie with Jotaro going solo this time and potentially unlocking a new ability. Maybe he learns how to use Hamon, extends his Time Stop duration, get a completely new ability, or all of the above.
Or even gets Star Platinum Requiem
Or even better............. Yare yare daze......This is my peak...... Star Prachinam Over Heaven
I believe that DIO would never be able to act like Joseph, he is way too cocky and like you said "vampirism makes you think that you are untouchable". so he will probably just blow his cover and get killed in the ambulance or just outside of it (edit, I just finished the vid and you already said it sooo yeah)
Him immediately revealing himself and taunting Jotaro is completely in character for DIO
this would be just another episode of kosaku kowujiri episode, like when kira took over someones life, but the stakes are high on this one
I wonder how he would react to being able to safely feel sunlight for the first time in over a century.
That would prob be a turning point in dio's life, thinking about how he missed the sun and in essence, being human and maybe even start a redemption arc
Then again this is Dio we're talking about so yeah
@her_says_stuff I'm just imagining the Frieza speech from DBZA after Goku leaves him
DIO: Maybe this is a sign. Maybe I should change. Maybe this is my second and last chance. Maybe... I was wrong. NAH!
@@Screecher_says_stuffnah pretty sure dio by that point already realize way to ignore his sun vulnerability and his heaven is already set in motion
So most likely become vamp again mindset after all guard dog pillarman is still alive and he can use his dna
I think DIO would wait at the hospital until Jotaro left to investigate his mansion, and tell the Speedwagon foundation he needs to go alone to America to wait for his wife (he would first ask them if she's home), then he would go on his own to reunite with Pucci and accelerate as much as possible the heaven plan, since that would also allow him to travel back time by resetting the universe and become a vampire once again
A Josuke swap would be a cool 2 part video, Gappy in DiU and Josuke in Jojolion
Or, hear me out: Swap Soft & Wet and Crazy Diamond. Josuke gets a less physically powerful but still strong stand that can absorb the properties of anything, and Josuk8 gets a stand that's way, way faster and stronger physically than any stand in Jojolion, along with restoration and Killer Queen's exploding bubbles, since CD starts out as Josefumi's stand in this and mixes with KC as normal.
@@projekttaku1dang sounds awesome actually
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That sounds so busted.
Or imagine. Hundreds of smaller killer queens restoring things wrong
@@dravendarkplays9607 Lol, insane.
@@projekttaku1 Ah, my favorite JoJo Part 8 Stand
Killer Cueen
Overall a bit of a reach tbh, we know that being a vampire can physically change even master hamon users like Straizo. In the measure that Joseph is dead, Dio taking over his body through his blood fully would just be instantly very obvious. Holy would also probably still be ill. I think it would be harder for Jotaro to fight his grandpa’s body than his estranged great great grandpa’s, but he’d still fold him to save Holy, and avenge the other crusaders.
Also, it’s a bit convoluted to assume he’d become a normal person again, when his vampiric blood would be the only thing allowing him to survive in Joseph’s body anyways. If the vampiric blood gets neutralized, he just fades away and dies-- just like he did in canon, pretty much. Idk, not your hardest hitter, tbh.
No need to insult the man at the end, it was an interesting premise. I was thinking it could be like a Batman Beyond situation where Joseph doesn’t realize he’s slowly being taken over by the will of DIO until he can’t save himself, a big moment being that recognizes that he isn’t breathing and then DIO shoves his mind to the forefront. Joseph can be pretty obtuse at times and probably wouldn’t be using Hamon immediately after Part 3, all DIO has to do is lay low in Joseph’s mind like how he was when he was burned in the Joestar mansion and manipulate Joseph through his subconscious thoughts and little actions. I think DIO could pull it off considering he is a master of manipulation at this point
The thing is, blood isn't what makes a vampire a vampire, joseph couldn't become one with just blood even if he'd be Dio. Which is what happened in the original show because dio in no way could live in josephs body, however since this is a what-if scenario I think it'd be fair that he isn't a vampire.
here's how i think Part4 would change. Jotaro would stay MUCH closer to Josuke, basically becoming a surrogate father for Josuke, he teaches him new techniques, unique things he could do with his stand, etc. this would make Josuke a better fighter but also closer to how Joseph fights in Part2
Mmm, not sure Jotaro would make the smart choice: in canon he was stupid and pushed his family away and split up to chase Stand arrows (despite already having experience that SPLITTING UP GETS PEOPLE WOUNDED OR KILLED).
Honestly I really didn't like that Joseph survived part 3...
He had a nice sendoff, one last conversation with Jotaro as a spirit, a bit of advice. And part 3 ending would be much more impactful showing that going after Dio had a huge cost and repercussions. Holly and Suzie Q would find out about everything, that would've been interesting to see as well since they were mostly left out.
Of course this would change part 4 significantly, but I feel like this scenario has potential as well. And Joseph doesn't play a huge role in it anyway.
I wouldn't prefer Dio surviving in Joseph's body at all, but I would've preffered to see Joseph die at the end of part 3
Yeah, killing Joseph would have actually warranted his silly ass end.
IMO let Kakyoin survive the Dio fight instead TBH.
@@theworstchannelyouhaveever9573That would be interesting as well
I always thought that maybe Joseph is more likely to become a vampire than just becoming DIO since that is also how Vanilla ice became one, even with the Hamon thing because how would DIO be able to drink Joseph's Hamon infused Blood if it hadn't dissipated in the time it took for them to circle back to his body?
Edit: I'd think that Joseph would try and find a way to make a fake copy of his corpse and have it be blown away like the real deal would under the sun, then he'd keep himself in his part 3 physique until he uses his(Joseph's) connections to regroup with Pucci and continue with the Heaven plan. I know he engraved the 14 words on The World but if they ever still need the diary then Josuke would also be at risk, since the other option was Jotaro, and Dio of all people would know that would be better as a last resort, so all they have to do is to get this other young Joestar to repair the diary, and continue their plan as early as when Part 5 rolls around
Dio was weakened when He drank Josephs blood so after the high wore off his body kinda explodes from star platinums punch.
@@shnx3778 Doesn't really explain how he's able to increase his time stop duration unless getting his skull caved in put enough pressure for him to unlock it, Joseph's blood had to have boosted him instead of weaken, and the explosion is mostly an effect from The World shattering from Star Platinum
About that, I may have forgor, but was there ever an actual reason for why Joseph's blood supercharges Dio? Like, I guess the idea is that getting more joestar family blood improved his compatibility with Jonathan's body, but how is that possible in practice? Did it like, give him resistance to hamon? He sure as heck isn't immune to the effects because the sun still destroyed jonathan's body later.
@@lpfan4491 Dio stated that the elft side of his body heals slower than his right, hence why The World was shattered because it used it's left leg, and Jonathan's body was resisting Dio, so he needed more Joestar blood to strengthen himself, which is kinda counterintuitive but somehow works
THANK YOU KALEB
(i posted that)😂godbless you my dude
I'm hyped for a part 2! 😁 Honestly this is a pretty interesting and comedic idea at the same time
Another W video as usual 😮💨🤝🏿
3:20 dio,jonathan,jotaro and joseph are all the same height lmao
I just imagine Jotaro reaching DIOSEPH with a 20 minutes timestop after having to defeat 700 generic stand users on his way 😭
I feel the best thing he could do would be to try and find Gorno early on essentially raising him to do what he couldnt and hope his stand can beat Star Platinum while still keeping the heaven plan as the trump card.
Or imagine if he was just a good dad to Giorno and went off into obscurity. Ok no but it would have been really interesting to see Giorno take on DIO's mantle a bit like Hannibal Barca and his dad Hamilcar.
@@KARKATELCESARENVIADODESA-pv4ydi had an idea for a story between Golden Wind and Stone ocean that followed the events after Golden wind with Jotro going after Giorno not believing that any son of Dio could be up to good, its all a misunderstanding but Golden experience Requiem v Star Platinum.
But your idea is better.
How strong would be Jotaro if he didn't take a break
Part 6 would have ended in just 5 episodes or he would be able to save Joylene and kill Pucci preventing the reset
Ngl I’d love the idea of Joseph and Dio sharing a body
As established in GoldenWind, he would still have The World as his stand not hermit purple as seen in the manga/show
But yeah would be nuts
As established in Stardust crusaders, he also managed to use Jonathan's hermit purple-like stand, so he would probably just have both.
In golden wind didn’t polnareff lose SC after his real body lost control and died?
If Jotaro travels with Polnareff, DIO is 100% without a doubt, cooked. Jotaro and Polnareff go to Italy, Diavolo gets his shit fucked up by Jotaro. If Polnareff lives and travels with Jotaro, things are just easier. Same thing happens to Kira, he gets his shit fucked up but isn't able to escape and switch with Kosaku, when there's an extra ally fighting with them.
Eventually when Jotaro does kill DIO again and if he hasn't started the heaven plan as soon as possible, then Pucci is cooked. If he does the same thing as setting up Jolyne, hes gonna have to fight Jotaro, and Polnareff breaking Jolyne out of prison and any plus one Jotaro has would drastically change how that part goes completely. Putting it short, Pucci dies quickly, no heaven plan is initiated.
That would be fun. Diavolo thinking he's got the big advantage and then during the stand-off and dialogue, bro just does the same to him as he did to Kira over there.
This sounds so fast that Jolene would be too young to frame
Would Dio have Josephs knowledge from using his brain? If so the idea of him learning about Santana and recruiting him sounds really cool to me. He could break him out using his stand or having someone else fit for the job do it. Then he could give Santana a stand. Pucci could find one that works in tandem with the pillarman abilities too. That'd be a scary ally, and with Joseph gone the only one with hamon that could keep Santana in check would be Dio.
And he would also tries to bring back Kars, thinking that he would also keep Kars in check, only to be eaten out by Kars
Ngl Santana is probably dead. Although we never see Joesph kill him there’s no reason for him not have been killed off screen. He’s not a threat to Joesph at all anymore.
@@kirbtheblob I'm pretty sure the Speedwagon foundation can't even kill him.
@@Ultras_450 how?
@@projekttaku1 I mean some how. Like using C moon to manipulate gravity to bring him back
Thank you Kaleb very cool.
What if that first PillarMan, Santiago came back and turned good?
Well that'd be a weird family reunion for Josuke
This scenario is some crazy scenario and yet it's very interesting !
A part 2 to this video would be awesome
Great video but also shout out to the spicy thumbnail
“you thought I was simply your grandfather! BUT IT WAS ME! DIO!”
if dio couldnt be vampire anymore on joseph joestar body he could tell speedwagon foundation that he needed a stone mask to anaylse the source of it(scummy excuse) then use it boom you get young joseph with part 1 dio abilities.
Dio:"You guys still have a stone mask?"
Speedwagon Foundation:"Nah, we destroyed all of them. Danger > Historical importance."
Dio:"Oh no!"
“Where did my meat go?”
what if Kaleb I.A. rejected his humanity would Jobber Joestar stop him?
Dio while in Joseph’s body he would still have hermit purple and hamon, since when he had Jonathan’s body he used Jonathan’s version of hermit while having the world at the time when he was trying to implant a flesh on one of the crusaders. (The World, Hamon and hermit sounds like a scary thing to go against)
Don't you think Dio would have Joseph's memories and would be able to see everything he knows about the Red Stone of Aja?
Maybe he could retrieve it and try to make a mask like the one Kars used and then do the Heaven Plan
Considering Holly and Josuke were sick due to DIO's curse, if DIO did in fact survive as Joseph, wouldn't they both succumb to it and die within a few days?
Man Jotaro would be wrecked beyond all belief.
He would become a depressed drunker or smoker for a few years
@@Ultras_450 He already does one. Just has to hit the legal age now. Man's gonna look at Dolphins a decade from now and and depressingly think how easygoing they have it
Love the vid Kaleb, sent you email btw.
I could see Dio looking for the arrowheads, the gem, and the mask. That or trying to to get Kar's body so he could absorb it, while he's frozen, and his minds panicking.
If that happens would DIO have a british accent. Jospeh speaking in a british accent would be funny.
Tell me why tf Jotaro looks more like a 17 year old in the part 3 flashback in stone ocean than he ever did in actual part 3
Unless i m understanding something wrong, you can be a vampire while knowing hamon (dire straight) you just cant use it.
Imagine DIO having to go through his own Kosaku Kawajiri arc, but it's Joseph Joestar...
i'd like a larger scale of this idea
Good topic
OH MY GOOOOOD from dio would be a giggle
I guess if he did come back the way Joseph played it, he would be dead.
Honestly, I think one thing that would really let Jotaro go toe to toe, or even surpass, the new enemies and Dio would be the fact that he has discovered/developed his own Time Stop ability now.
He would probably just steamroll over the new enemy stand users, and be able to go toe to toe with Dio much better.
would love to see a video about if jotaro and polnareff switched and jotaro caught diavalo instead of polnareff
Part 4 Polnareff
Jotaro would have ended Diovalo
Alright yeah, I wanna see a continuation of this as a stream or something
Honestly I’m interested to see what could’ve happened (even if it barely changes things)
Now i need a spinoff with dio pretending to be joseph for years, having no stand, powers nor any coherent escape plans so he pretends to be jotaros grandpa which, you know, dio being dio, a polar opposite of joseph on everything would be funny as hell
Time stop + star finger + ora ora ora
I wanna hear about a story
where Dio loses his plan as he becomes joseph
He tries to be joseph, and he is dio as an hidden alter ego
he recovers his will partialy, in the form that he qanted to make the human land more safe
he uses hermit purple and goes on an adventure with a team of atand users, to stop the baddies
Hamon and the vampire essence weaken each other. So dio has weak last resort level vampire powers, and no hamon
So he has no significant way to deage and stay young
He has a challenging body, hermit purple, some traces of Joseph's genius, and U guess the world as well, but in a new form
7th year of asking for a what if video on Magician's Red Requiem. I will NOT give up.
What would it even do make more fire
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere I figure it'd probably be things like perfect life sense, some kind of power that would've been able to sense Cream coming and some power Kaleb could come up with that'd work for beating DIO. I ain't the What If guy here.
Imagine Dio running around in a vampirized younger version of Joseph after using the stone mask. Would be a crazy villain.
8:50 imagine Dio going after Diavolo and Kira to recruit them, only for it to turn into a fight, with him having to kill them both and ridding the world of them. Ironic? Hilarious? Hilarious
A wise man once said: "OH MY GOD!!!"
After thinking about it I figured Joseph should have been revived as a vampire the way Vanilla Ice was. Maybe it didn't happen that way since DIO had a bunch of Joseph's blood in him but I would have liked to see vampire Joseph in future parts, that could have been fun.
FINALLY
i mean, Dio literally had 2 stands, its only showed once but he also have a kind of hermit purple
W video
The more understandable is dios blood may have made joseph slightly vampiric
Recall dio had agents throughout
Quick question: Wouldn't Giorno technically be part vampire, even if it's a small amount?
I think dio taking back the part of his body that wasnt destroyed would be hilarious because of the difference in build
Joseph (Dio) : OH SHIITTTT
*throws a road roller*
Just imagine if Joseph's consciousness is still in the body while DIO is in control? In a sense this sorta reminds me of Sukuna for some weird reason.
I love this theory
Joseph saying wwwrrrryyy would be hilarious
I love to imagine a hypothetical part 4 where Josuke main antagonist is Dio in Joseph's body but he is a vampire from the blood he received so it's Dio in young joseph body against Josuke and Jotaro fit as the mentor as he already is in part 4
i would love to hear Matt Mercer's jotaro say "G what's goin on why you trippin"
No way would Dio continue existing as Joseph. He’d be found out immediately by Jotaro even if he tried to hide it. Jotaro wouldn’t even need to employ the “Weird Al test” to discover it was Dio.
Maybe I'm silly for bringing it up but at around 6:00 doesn't Diavolo already exist as Vinegar Doppio already? In part 3 he's already an adult since he sold Enyaba the arrowheads?
What if he didn't sold Enyaba the arrows
Considering Vanilla Ice didn't fully turn into s vampire post-resurrection via Dio blood until after Polnareff mortally wounded him, would it actually be plausible for Joseph to turn into a vampire once he actually dies eventually?
That would have been cool.
Dio hopping from joestar to joestar when they get old until he can fully strike again, or maybe he just doesn't and escapes into silence more akin to his personality of Part 6. Maybe he pulls some minor strings here and there idk it would have been interesting to see how he reacted to the many parts of the series, knowing the Joestars aren't just.. "anything" he can just mess with, maybe he helps Pucci and makes it to the next world, isn't that what he always wanted? in that way he would have won by doing nothing and being lowkey which would have been so much more interesting and harder for him rather than just punching by force. What do you think?
That would have been all the vengeance he needed.
Ahhh Jojo.... never overachieve when you can always just do what's expected.
Honestly I'll take that idea for myself lol.
I could see a scenario where Hole Horse, Polnareff, Oingo and Boingo team up with Jotaro to take out DIO for good in case he decides and succeeds to take over Joseph's body.
08:50-09:15. Flesh Buds? Zombification?
I think the reduction of crusaders could be a boon to jotaro, he has high experience working with polnareff and if they're attached to the hip they're almost unbeatable
I imagine DIO being in Joseph's body the same thing as Diavolo possessing the gang members in Part 5. Joseph's consciousness would be in his body and he still would be controlling, but, unwittingly housing DIO's soul inside of him.
later on part 4 jotaro would receives a call that joseph is acting strange and he has to check on him/alternative is while they're fighting mostly DIu villains he gets pierced by atoms father arrow. sptw vs vampiric with 200 iq unknown stand.. would that be onesided?
I like to think Joseph's body just purified the blood. Hamon is a vampires kryptonite after all
What if Joseph's body starts sending a signal. Holly would die, and there would be no part 4.
That time I was reincarnated as a Joseph Joestar 😂
My fav season❤
i feel like you REALLY underestimate how easy it'd be to just bonk jotaro on the head while he isn't looking
I love imagining that if his cover is blown he'd actually say "aaaaah you got me." like a cartoon villain and just die moments later 💀 [ 12:13 ]
If this did happen if not the heaven plan then Dio might try to find his children since they were powerful stand users in their own right. Also Araki did say Dio would raise his sons right.
Then his strongest son would be Ungalo not Giorno Giovanna
You should do a what if Johnathan took control of his body after dio took it in part 2
That would be interesting
4:44 but then you would have to take into consideration if dio in joseph's body has The World because there is a theory that dio had two stands. one from himself and the other from Jonathon's body. that is why in the one scene in stardust crusaders when we see a flashback when on of the companions gets controlled by dio that dio has a crystal ball and what seems to be a version of hermit purple. and people guess that dio has the version of hermit purple but Jonathon's body has the world and dio can control both. so the questions begs...... which stand or even both has gone into joseph's body if dio survived as joseph joestar.