When was it confirmed that Pillar Men can get stands? I know there is stuff where Ultimate Kars creates his own version something like 37 resets down the line, but I don't think this is something we are refering to here.
@@gotenksjr the fact you just mentioned how a pillarman got a stand and then said when did they say pillarmen could achieve stands is mind-boggling. Kars can garaunteed get one, Wamuu is most likely able to get one based off Kars' capability and his mental fortitude and Esidesi sharing that same reasoning.
@@Exinith I really don’t think ultimate kars would lose against dio over heaven, he could just observe him and get a stand stronger than the world over heaven.
@@Eiiko912 you’re a bit late bro he could just stop time before Jotaro manifested the power to stop time himself just absolutely shank him with the ransoms knives in his pockets and the end he would rule the world
@@reniorjd Even then he lost in the end, that is like the entire plot of eyes of heaven. I mean obviously you've played the game right why would you say that?
Yeah, I think a lot of people overlook that Dio inadvertently saves the world by losing the fight against Jonathan at Wind Knight's Lot, and then killing Jonathan on the boat to America
@@shravan1005 if Dio won against Jonathan at Wind Knight's Lot, Jonathan wouldn't have been able to shag Erina and have George II, nor would George and Lisa Lisa have met, and of course had Joseph, the one who defeated the Pillar Men
@@ProjektTaku the bite the dust th3 jojo reference?My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
@@ProjektTaku My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
What if Dio developed a different stand because he had a different “fighting spirit” and mentality because he never lost to Jonathan. He would have never had time to think about his goals in the coffin.
He phisically couldnt fate is a real thing and also the final stand of somone in jojo is always the same so if Diego survived a bit more he would have gotten the world
Another interesting idea for Part 1 is that the moment Dio tries to take over Britain, the German Kaiser organizes a taskforce and sends a young Rudol von Stroheim as its head who defeats Dio either through German Science or somehow getting a stand of his own or both
Stand User: Rudol Von Stroheim Stand Name: 『Sabaton』 Ability: Allows the user to reconstruct themself using technology unless the Stand itself is removed. Also allows the user to store any weapon inside their mechanical body for use against foes. Power: B Speed: A Range: D Durability: A Precision: C Potential: B
dude that honestly sounds so cool, imagine if dio won the battle in the castle the rest of Europe sends in a mobile task force composed of small mini armies with there own individual commanders, said commanders could have special powers as well (hamon,german science, stand user or maybe some other stuff) maybe at the final battle we could see all the mini armies band together to take on dio and his army of the dead (or maybe a army of vampires but i don’t really see dio doing that)
They only woke up because they took dio's stone mask and traced it back to their cave And got succed which woke them If he still had the mask they may never wake up Or maybe he's the one who's gonna find them and use them somehow He's dio after all
@@mralabbad7 The mask was destroyed by Speedwagon at the end of Part 1 with a sledgehammer. It would not matter at all, Speedwagon not using his foundation to rout out more stone masks would only delay their discovery further down the line.
If Diio met the pillar men and started babbling about his goals, I'm pretty sure they'd answer "since when does food ask questions?". After all, it's shown they can literally absorb vampires for sustenance. I'm pretty sure the pillar men's assault would consume Dio then, since the Hamon clan is more or less gone, or at least severely diminished, they'd conquer the world.
I think you HIGHLY underestimated the intellect of the Pillar Men. Santana, the underdog, was able to understand language and weaponry in mere seconds. Not only that but the main trio would probably act as if Dio wasn't even there, which would anger him and lead him to attack one of them, getting absorbed in the process.
@@persusk.8806 I'm talking about the bit at the end where he says he gets absorbed in the process because with his stand he wouldn't and wammu couldn't use divine sandstorm because dio could stop time, donut him and knock him away, same goes for the others
Using the Red Stone of Aja on a vampire with the correct mask wouldn't help against the sun. Since from what we hear from the characters in the show, the regular mask wasn't able to fully pierce the brains of the pillarmen when they first used them. But with the Red Stone of Aja and that mask, Kars was able to fully pierce his brain and become a Vampire Pillarman / The Ultimate Lifeform.
loved the fact when you shown a lego set being disassembled during "but i don't think he will be just disassembling civilizations, by turning people into zombies" really got me laughing
The thing is, if Dio never gets stuck at the bottom of the Ocean, the Time Stop of 「The World」would most likely not be a thing, since it is probably based on Dio's feeling of time stopping after being stuck underwater for 100 years.
@@doug.1926 imagine if jotaro stops time and then dio skips the stopped time to reveal his power, or would jotaro pull a ger returning the stopped time to zero, or would he have the same ability is my question
If Dio had won at Windknight's Lot Jonathan would have had the worst fate. At that point Dio was set on making Jonathan his zombie (mostly because he initially didn't want to do that but he found that feeling to be a weakness in him and he wanted to overcome said weakness) and we saw with Bruford that it would have meant having Jonathan obeying Dio and doing whatever he said and not be able to die unless a hamon user freed and killed him. Like if Dio wanted zombie Jonathan to kill Erina or Speedwagon he would do it while being conscious about it, it would have been one of the most horrible things Dio could do to him.
@@laziness6641 if you are talking about dio dying of old age.. thats not gonna happen because of his vampire powers hes immortal. But if he meets someone as strong as jotaro or at the same power level of jotaro he will get whooped if he doesnt get cocky but ok.
@@whippyfunnyman the comment was about if he got the joestar fortunes which does not certainly mean getting his vampire powers, he could just somehow kill george and jonathan, or just get jonathan to die so noone finds out he did it and when george dies of old age dio gets the fortune. edit: just noticed I called jorge george this whole time, hoops
I’d honestly think that DIO, if he went through, would be unbeatable, if he matured, I think his ability would be that at close range he can do anything, but further you get, the more restricted reality overwrite gets
Actually if dio had defeated the stardust crusaders then giorno would have never obtained the knowledge from pollnaref about the requime So the gang would have been over thrown by diovolo.
And Dio would go to morioh to kill Josuke cause when Josuke got the fever he was around 4 and if Dio won Josuke wouldnt be able to fight back and also diavolo would be killed with the help of DIO
Remember that if Dio defeated the stardust crusaders that Polnareff would still be alive because Dio would have to fight them earlier on to achieve it. And Polnareff was only interested in revenge earlier till he developed a bond later on, and because DIO never hated Polnareff and would be perfectly fine letting him get revenge on him for his own satisfaction since DIO never trusted Enyaba and her kid anyway.
@@nyoho5554 that wasnt the reason because during the jotaro fight he already gained a few seconds within a few minutes the only thing the body did was make him heal slower
You sure that Dio could become a perfect being like Kars? Kars made that mask to work specifically for his species. Even with the red stone of Aja I doubt the mask would be able to make Dio a perfect being. Heck, the stone was only needed because the mask needed extra power to pierce their skulls. Even with a stand, Dio would be pretty much powerless against the Pillarmen, as he would not be able to kill them. And while he could potentially have the time stopping ability, all the pillarmen have to do is get into contact with his body to eat him. Considering their speed and reflexes are greater than that of vampires, Dio would probably be fucked.
Exactly, i also said this in my comment, i'm kinda disappointed on this youtuber since he constantly make Jojo content but somehow know nothing about part 2
I think it could work. Since the normal stone mark can turn people into vampires. It’s safe to assume that a red stone mask could turn a vampire into maybe not the Ultimate/Perfect being but could possibly fix his sun problems. All headcanon or theories though
@@TedMcS My head cannon is that since the mask only needed extra power to drive the spikes into the pillarmen's skulls, a vampire would just get their head crushed.
@@TedMcS thats not how stone mask works, it doesnt actually give anyone who wear it super power, its simply a tool to unlock a species untapped potential by piercing their brain, and the red stone doesnt give additional power to the user or anything, it simply power up the mask itself to make it strong enough to pierce pillarmen thick and durable skull, so yeah, normal vampire wearing a red stone mask will simply get their head crushed because of the mask pressure
Wammu would have the likeliest chance of beating Vanilla Ice- He can simply see the gaps in the air and dodge with the wind and his athletic prowess. Even if Vanilla tried to get close, he’d have to come out to look sometime. That’s where Wammu wins. It’s a very short battle about: Wammu finding out the ability of Cream in around 2 seconds (400IQ momento) Waiting for Vanilla to come take a look, as he notices the up and down movements like a routine. Simply waits out of Vanilla’s range. Dives in and tears Vanilla to shreds with the *DIVINE SANDSTORM!*
@@vegetablackpotato4700 perfect Kars was a bird in the scene with the plane. Do you expect a bird to be faster than a plan, even an 80s plane? Kars was the ultimate being, but he had the limitation of beings. The pillar man even without stands, just with their huge IQ, extreme power, regeneration and speed, could beat most of part 3 stands 1v1. Now, pillar man with stands, as long as those stands aren't totally useless, could flatline DIO easily. Joseph beat them just because of their pride, Hamon (which DIO can't use), a lot of luck and the fact that they didn't take him seriously. The pillar man wouldn't underestimate a vampire like they did with a human and DIO wouldn't have much time to assess the situation and considering his character, he would have more pride then the pillar men combined.
kira just goes on with his "quiet life" Diavolo continues being a mob boss Pucci achieves heaven Valentine makes America great again Tooru makes a lot of cash with the rokakaka
@@VoidStaresback I don’t disagree, but inagine a whole world where are the Jojo’s are actually now Brando’s. Imagine what could be different, for example Jotaro but Blonde.
i don't think red stone mask will evolve dio at all, the stone mask is a tool to activate the untapped potential in a species/race, in this case human potential is becoming vampire, the red stone is needed *only* for pillarmen because they have thicker skull than human and the red stone works to power up the mask to be able to pierce their skull and unleashing their true potential, which is becoming ultimate lifeform. So yeah, the red stone mask is useless for Dio.
With tjis mentality, would the stone mask instead be used like the Stand Arrow, in it would power up The World if in the scenario of Dio already having the world went to look for the cure for sun weakness? There is new potential to be tapped there, so using it on The World could be an idea
GER won’t be able to stop him once he gets The World Ultimate Lifeform Over Heaven Cuz in EoH you can see he deflects giorno’s “return to zero” pretty quickly
@@imnotsus132 i mean Over Heaven is hard to get (Jotaro got it by copying DIO lmao) since pucci meeted DIO alot of years ago so for the plan of heaven it should've been hard to have made in Heaven
The only reason dio was so profound in part 3 was because of his time underwater, and we know for a fact that a stand reflects a person spirit. So a dio that didn’t spend time under water would have a diffrent spirit than a dio that did. So if p1 dio had a stand would it be diffrent than the world?
There was just a minor misconception here - like nearly all time manipulation abilities, T.E., Time Accel. Time Stopping is actually universal. In part 4, Jotaro just needed to get into punching range, not timestopping range, since he could only stop it for 2 seconds and if he was too far, it'd resume before he could pull anything off. So Dio doesn't actually have a range limit on TS.
could you imagine if araki had a series, it was called “what if…” and it showed everything that COULDVE happened, like if dio won or kars won or diavolo won or if speedwagon learned hamon, but it was all like non canon, like stuff like deadmans questions, but it shows stuff that COULDVE happened after certain events
I think the whole point of the red stone of aja is that it enables the masks to pierce the more developed pillarman brain, since the regular mask can’t. A regular mask does work on a normal person, but since they aren’t a pillarman, it just makes them a lesser pillarman or a vampire.
@@majungasaurus6814 I don't really get how pillar men and vampires work but I remember Kars was born a vampire and used stone mask meaning there might be a difference between Dio's ultimate life form and Kar's ultimate life form maybe
The thought of dio being the ultimate life form AND having the world : over heaven is scary. completely invincible, can transform into anything, can have any stand in it's ultimate over heaven form with their own unbelievably overpowered over heaven abilities.
I like this idea you present, Dio himself is a very interesting character to delve into and if he were to have won. I also like the idea you gave to Heaven DIO since while he is busted, he needed a bit of a blowback to all the power he had acquired which I like with the range system and the alternatives in his ending with Gio and Pucci. Very good stuff
I don't think Dio would've tested the arrows on others if he knew that you could get immense power from them, i dont think he would risk anyone being able to be stronger than himself
6:02 if we’re talking about Dio having a stand I think he wouldn’t master it so we can call that dio shadow dio because as kind of a JoJo fan some people will know if dio did not master the world like stopping time or it time skip that means he should become shadow dio That’s only the one thing I just want to point out
Eh but still I mean if you think about it shadow Dio has been in every single JoJo thing like Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure eyes of heaven even Roblox games has shadow dio and even in the anime has it Because it’s when he first got his stand so still
dio is probably the most important character in jojo if dio didnt exist well no part 1 no part 2 no part 3 part 4 isnt as good part 5 no giorno means no part 5 part 6 no pucci and many characters part 7 doesnt exist part 8 doesnt exist as well and many other things damn dio is so important🤯
Yeah but Dio, excluding Diego has literally nothing to do with part 7 or 8 nor has he cause any of the events in part 7 or 8, so why wouldn’t they exist? Please don’t tell me you’re referring to the Reddit theory “PUCCI KILLED EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE AND IT CREATED PART 7 AND 8!”
What would happen if dio survived against Jotaro, Runs Away to survive, and come back when he has the oportunity to defeat the Joestar Bloodline and Get a Requien Arrow? Or just get the requien arrow?
Requiem as shown is never only limited to the beetle arrow, so i doubt that would happen. Dio would never have to get a requiem stand as like, whats the point. He would most likely try to achieve heaven and eyes of heaven happens. The rest of the joestars peobably wouldnt be aware as giorno and josuke do their own thing, not knowing about dio and stuff. Honestly josuke would of probably died or family would of moved as kira slaughters the people of morioh uncontested.
wait wait wait, can Dio even become an ultimate lifeform? I was pretty sure that was specific to pillarmen. They made the masks to achieve it but the masks didn't pierce deep enough yet the masks, as they were, worked as intended on humans. That told me that humans hadn't evolved far enough to evolve like the pillarmen would with a mask.
Lol. I just finished your video 4 yrs ago saying, “that’s why I didn’t do a Dio won video, cuz this game already did that”. Then I saw this video in the recommendations. Haha. Gave me a good laugh.
I would love Eye's of Heaven animated into a movie one day after part 8 ios animated imagine a what if movie for JoJo's with Eye's of Heaven DIO as a villain !!
Hello! I was wondering if you could do Part 1 dio brando vs Part 3 DIO in a "who would win". I feel like that would be a very interesting concept and I've looked it up and no one has done that type of analysis before. Love your videos!
Obviously Dio part 3 wins. Both are vampires but with The World he can easily destroy the other Dios head and avoid getting attacked with the ability of stopping time
You forgot one major thing about dio vs the pillar men. Dio does know how to use hamon. He would probably just stop time and kill them all with hamon before they could even react.
This video was lit. Could you make one talking about what would happen at the end of Giorno’s infinite death loop attack? Since there are lots, but not infinite, deaths on this world and elsewhere, I think it would fit.
Worth noting Stands *do* arise through intense will to self-improvement, and some people are simply born with them, so it's possible a victorious Part 2 Dio would be taken out by a natural Stand user in the Battle Tendencies era before he ever got his hands on an Arrow. Now, Part 2 Dio may well develop the mind-control flesh buds he used in Part 3, as these seem to be an outgrowth of his vampiric nature rather than his Stand, which could allow him to take control of a Stand user like he did to Kakyoin.
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Vampire Dio: I DIO HAVE TAKEN OVER THE WORLD!
Pillar men: Not up in here!
When was it confirmed that Pillar Men can get stands? I know there is stuff where Ultimate Kars creates his own version something like 37 resets down the line, but I don't think this is something we are refering to here.
@@gotenksjr the fact you just mentioned how a pillarman got a stand and then said when did they say pillarmen could achieve stands is mind-boggling. Kars can garaunteed get one, Wamuu is most likely able to get one based off Kars' capability and his mental fortitude and Esidesi sharing that same reasoning.
The whole point how BEING heaven and haveing ALL of the corpse parts is that requiem is NOTHING compared to heavn
Dio: Dio is the strongest! None can beat the power of 「The World」
Wamuu probably: Finally, a worthy opponent!
Our battle will be legendary!
Stopwatch vs Fan
69 like *_nice_*
Joseph JOKEstar
Used a little lesson in trickery to beat all three pillar men
*b e t*
These abilities are no match for the Joestar secret technique
He forgets he’s a vampire one day and walks out into the sunlight. The end.
“I finally have defeated the Joestar bloodline! Nobody is able to defeat DIO- aw s***”
@@yuriyakimura426 same
If he achieved heaven, which he would've if he won. Dio would have sunlight resistance.
@@fizzure heaven isn’t canon… it’s uh… made up…
@@fizzure ofc
"He stops time, and he monologues for a bit." Had me dying 😂
80% of time stop: Monologue
10% of time stop: laughing
10% of time stop: fight/knife throw.
@@Steyr32 99.9%of time stop = doin everything esle
0.1 of timestop = fight
Dio is doing everything other than fighting in his time stop
Kars: Do you like dogs?
Dio Brando: I have them burn in furnaces.
Kars: Unforgivable! Wamuu get him!
Lol
Lmao
Kars would probably kill him personally if Dio said that
@@TheUncivilizedNation if it was dio over heaven dio would win as he could rewrite his ultimate life form
@@Exinith I really don’t think ultimate kars would lose against dio over heaven, he could just observe him and get a stand stronger than the world over heaven.
A.K.A "What if dio wasn’t cocky"
Yes
Like that's ever gonna happen.
@@syouji185 yeah Dio wouldn't be half as interesting if he wasn't condescending and arrogant.
Alternate video title: DIO’s Bizarre adventure
@@Eiiko912 you’re a bit late bro he could just stop time before Jotaro manifested the power to stop time himself just absolutely shank him with the ransoms knives in his pockets and the end he would rule the world
I love how araki made it so dio is destined to fail, no matter what scenario
Expect for part 3 where he achieves his over heaven form.
@@reniorjd Even then he lost in the end, that is like the entire plot of eyes of heaven. I mean obviously you've played the game right why would you say that?
@@nategrant784 yeah but jotaro would be dead and i doubt that the pillarmen would have enough power to defeat over heaven
Mean, dio could've easily kill jotaro in part 3 with his vampiric powers like laser eyes and all of that but araki wanted him to lose so...
@@archivist9256 No, Jotaro won in eyes of heaven because and believe this: It’s the same type of stand as Star Platinum, so no.
Yeah, I think a lot of people overlook that Dio inadvertently saves the world by losing the fight against Jonathan at Wind Knight's Lot, and then killing Jonathan on the boat to America
the butterfly effect at its peak
I dont get it?
Sounds like what Dio would say
@@shravan1005 if Dio won against Jonathan at Wind Knight's Lot, Jonathan wouldn't have been able to shag Erina and have George II, nor would George and Lisa Lisa have met, and of course had Joseph, the one who defeated the Pillar Men
@@fatheralexanderanderson3829 ahhhh now i see i knew jjba was a fuck knows butterfly effect but this is just crazy
Imagine the Scenario when Dios gets "the Sun" as a stand, that would be funny and ironic
Dio: I FINALLY HAVE A STAND *summons the sun* You've got to be kidding-*dust*
the he bites the dust
@@ProjektTaku the bite the dust th3 jojo reference?My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
@@ProjektTaku My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and I get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but I occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get eight hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last check-up. I'm trying to explain that I'm a person who wishes to live a very quiet life. I take care not to trouble myself with any enemies, like winning and losing, that would cause me to lose sleep at night. That is how I deal with society, and I know that is what brings me happiness. Although, if I were to fight I wouldn't lose to anyone.
@@coneburger9081 What
I want an entire series based on this.
*Dio’s* Bizarre Adventure, if you will.
Wouldn't mind seeing what dio did for four years until stardust
Worst thing I've ever heard: Dio kills Speedwagon
Hellll naw if DIO killed speedwagon I would've cried lmao
@@TheUnderNerd same bruh (other then the sad age counter) he is strong waifu
@@jojogamer8240 yes yes yes speedwagon is best waifu
Ngl. Speedwagon would obliterate dio with his stand ability[The Two Friends From Ogre Street].
@@orochimaruorochimaru9730 Yo he would tho
Imagine how fast Pucci would Achieve Heaven if Dio was there to help
You again....
Ayo its mustache man but without a mustache
Wait is achieving heaven important at that point? I mean Dio won......
The orginial goal was too make dio actieve heaven not pucco
It wouldn't be Pucci doing it but Dio instead
"the pillarmen will probably kill all the stand users"
*The Sun intensifies*
The Sun stand doesn't have UV.
The sun wasn't born yet
Remember than Waamu's wind can reflect sunlight.
@@luckyowl10 interesting...... Can he deflect the emerald splash tho?
@@suisui5930 I dont think so
Hearing you as a voice actor is the best god damn thing I ever got to experience
Wow first reply on a verified youtuber
Ikr
Hehe
Yessss
@Funko Guy it's gold experience that's the official name golden experience is just how they pronaunce it
Another thing to mention is the fact that he can stop time longer, maybe even indefinitely, now that he has a full healthy/healed body
Ultimate Life Form Dio is an absolutely terrifying collection of words.
Dio over heaven:
@@yowaimo820 if did used the goofy ahh red rock with his stone mask, and became the world over heaven, he would be even more immortal
ultimate dio vs heaven ascension dio would be funny, but this dio could never become heaven ascension, no 100 years to contemplate a plan
7:20 Now this is top tier voice acting my guy
I will pay him 100 dollars to voice an extra
No, this is 7:30
"oh im weak to the sun ugh im vampire ogh"
@@nicokeksi6832 3:03
NOOOO ITS 5:28
What if Dio developed a different stand because he had a different “fighting spirit” and mentality because he never lost to Jonathan. He would have never had time to think about his goals in the coffin.
Yeah he most likely wouldn't have the world.
I mean just look at Diego, that dude didn't have the world.
and Diego-2 had a nerfed World.
@@vixenxia2475 Diego’s The world is weaker because he isn’t a vampire
@@Blapedred the same reason why Jotaro can't use his time-stop ability for long.
@@damonlam9145 that's because the human limit is 5 seconds.
He phisically couldnt fate is a real thing and also the final stand of somone in jojo is always the same so if Diego survived a bit more he would have gotten the world
Another interesting idea for Part 1 is that the moment Dio tries to take over Britain, the German Kaiser organizes a taskforce and sends a young Rudol von Stroheim as its head who defeats Dio either through German Science or somehow getting a stand of his own or both
Imagine if Stroheim learned Hamon in order to kill DIO
Stand User: Rudol Von Stroheim
Stand Name: 『Sabaton』
Ability: Allows the user to reconstruct themself using technology unless the Stand itself is removed. Also allows the user to store any weapon inside their mechanical body for use against foes.
Power: B
Speed: A
Range: D
Durability: A
Precision: C
Potential: B
@@goldenhydreigon4727 you had the stats B A D A C on purpose didnt you
dude that honestly sounds so cool, imagine if dio won the battle in the castle the rest of Europe sends in a mobile task force composed of small mini armies with there own individual commanders, said commanders could have special powers as well (hamon,german science, stand user or maybe some other stuff)
maybe at the final battle we could see all the mini armies band together to take on dio and his army of the dead (or maybe a army of vampires but i don’t really see dio doing that)
He doesn’t need a stand, German engineering is the best in the world!
"All of the three pillar men-"
*Santana cries in the corner.*
"But what about Santana?"
"What ABOUT Santana?"
@@emberdragon4248 Noice reference
Oh God please don't let him be so misunderstood 🌚
I don't get it
@@NoNameAtAll2 Tfs: Dragon Ball Z Abridged
"What If dio won in part 1"
Wammu: master kars I found breakfast
They only woke up because they took dio's stone mask and traced it back to their cave
And got succed which woke them
If he still had the mask they may never wake up
Or maybe he's the one who's gonna find them and use them somehow
He's dio after all
@@mralabbad7 The mask was destroyed by Speedwagon at the end of Part 1 with a sledgehammer. It would not matter at all, Speedwagon not using his foundation to rout out more stone masks would only delay their discovery further down the line.
@@TheSixthDoctor how would he do that if he was dead
And there was no foundation
@@mralabbad7 If he found them after attaining the world, then everything would probably still end with the Pillar Men out of the picture.
Ha!You part 1 win,part 3 isn't I will let teach Jotaro lesson never and ever kill my friend Lord Dio Brando.
If Diio met the pillar men and started babbling about his goals, I'm pretty sure they'd answer "since when does food ask questions?".
After all, it's shown they can literally absorb vampires for sustenance.
I'm pretty sure the pillar men's assault would consume Dio then, since the Hamon clan is more or less gone, or at least severely diminished, they'd conquer the world.
They also created vampires to be their food. That's not a deer talking, that's a potato.
I think you HIGHLY underestimated the intellect of the Pillar Men. Santana, the underdog, was able to understand language and weaponry in mere seconds. Not only that but the main trio would probably act as if Dio wasn't even there, which would anger him and lead him to attack one of them, getting absorbed in the process.
Call you a technology in the 80s, cause that’s fax.
This is the most thing that frustrates me in the video.
Pillar men can't absorb his stand
@@sndsunderstagel3114 he actually said intellect, and what about the divine storm or the boiling blood or the light power of the pillarmen.
@@persusk.8806 I'm talking about the bit at the end where he says he gets absorbed in the process because with his stand he wouldn't and wammu couldn't use divine sandstorm because dio could stop time, donut him and knock him away, same goes for the others
Who would win every single jojo vs every single main villain at the same time it would be cool
Ulf kars vs ger
villains simply because of ultimate kars
Jojo cause of Giorno,Gappy and Johnny
If heaven dio was there then the jojos are screwed
Villains got too much of a gain ngl d4c lt mih kc kq tw ulf kars and dio brando like bruh cmon
Using the Red Stone of Aja on a vampire with the correct mask wouldn't help against the sun. Since from what we hear from the characters in the show, the regular mask wasn't able to fully pierce the brains of the pillarmen when they first used them. But with the Red Stone of Aja and that mask, Kars was able to fully pierce his brain and become a Vampire Pillarman / The Ultimate Lifeform.
"DIO COULD GET THE REDSTONE"
me: woah, dio played minecraft in the 19s?
Prob yes but with HD mod and some other mods
@Cheese yes
Imagine a timeline where the Joestars have to fight Dio for 6 generations or even more and they can finally win in the end
yeah imagine
So castlevania?
That's actually what I thought would happen in Jojo, that dio was the only character in all parts, and each jojo trying to defeat him.
Jjba:Eyes of heaven
@HunterkageJoestar naw the bad carriage driver did
loved the fact when you shown a lego set being disassembled during "but i don't think he will be just disassembling civilizations, by turning people into zombies" really got me laughing
The thing is, if Dio never gets stuck at the bottom of the Ocean, the Time Stop of 「The World」would most likely not be a thing, since it is probably based on Dio's feeling of time stopping after being stuck underwater for 100 years.
Question is though:If Dio doesn’t get the ability to stop time, then what ability does he get?
@@theonlyrogu3 some other unbelievably busted ability maybe like King Crimson
@@doug.1926 imagine if jotaro stops time and then dio skips the stopped time to reveal his power, or would jotaro pull a ger returning the stopped time to zero, or would he have the same ability is my question
@@stirby8089 Jotaro wouldn’t ever be born
@@doug.1926 Oh, yeah.
Dio over heaven : no one can beat me
Jotaro: all I need is family
Family is everything.
*bandoleros plays*
Dom toretto: Hired😂
jomic jorreto
Plot armor*
The pillar men with a stand would be a nightmare especially after becoming the ultimate lifeforms
Imagine if the stand was any act 1 but since they win every battle they are just stuck with a larva that can shoot nails
@@heladovegano9770 Nail shooting would still be extremely useful
Kaleb:What if Dio won?
Dio: Wins
JoJo's bizzare adventure : *Don't exist*
Brando bizzare adventure
@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec DioDio's Abnormal Journey
Damn I don’t exist now.
DIO's bizzare boredom
Dio's Abnormal Journey
“So dio wins, the hamon crusaders go down in the castle”
Me: “ok, sure”
“And so does speedwagon”
Me: *kill bill siren*
If Dio had won at Windknight's Lot Jonathan would have had the worst fate. At that point Dio was set on making Jonathan his zombie (mostly because he initially didn't want to do that but he found that feeling to be a weakness in him and he wanted to overcome said weakness) and we saw with Bruford that it would have meant having Jonathan obeying Dio and doing whatever he said and not be able to die unless a hamon user freed and killed him. Like if Dio wanted zombie Jonathan to kill Erina or Speedwagon he would do it while being conscious about it, it would have been one of the most horrible things Dio could do to him.
Kaleb: What if Dio won?
Dio: Wins
Giorno: Bruh
Jolyne: Bruh
Jotaro: Bruh
Josuke: Bruh
Joseph: Bruh
Bruh
Johnathan: *is fucking dead*
YES
😔✌️
@@WelshWerewolf no
You forgot about if Dio took over the Joestar Fortune
He'd just live (somewhat) happy until he dies, probably
@@laziness6641 if you are talking about dio dying of old age.. thats not gonna happen because of his vampire powers hes immortal. But if he meets someone as strong as jotaro or at the same power level of jotaro he will get whooped if he doesnt get cocky but ok.
I thought it was like if Dio never had to become a vampire and simply got the Joestar fortune as a human?
@@whippyfunnyman if he never got caught poisoning jorge, which made him desperate enough to try the mask thing
@@whippyfunnyman the comment was about if he got the joestar fortunes which does not certainly mean getting his vampire powers, he could just somehow kill george and jonathan, or just get jonathan to die so noone finds out he did it and when george dies of old age dio gets the fortune.
edit: just noticed I called jorge george this whole time, hoops
I’d honestly think that DIO, if he went through, would be unbeatable, if he matured, I think his ability would be that at close range he can do anything, but further you get, the more restricted reality overwrite gets
Actually if dio had defeated the stardust crusaders then giorno would have never obtained the knowledge from pollnaref about the requime So the gang would have been over thrown by diovolo.
And then imagine Diavolo with King Crimson Requiem fighting Dio and Pucci to stop the Heaven Ascenscion plan
still would have known and tried to stop him from getting the arrow in the first place ever.
And Dio would go to morioh to kill Josuke cause when Josuke got the fever he was around 4 and if Dio won Josuke wouldnt be able to fight back and also diavolo would be killed with the help of DIO
Remember that if Dio defeated the stardust crusaders that Polnareff would still be alive because Dio would have to fight them earlier on to achieve it. And Polnareff was only interested in revenge earlier till he developed a bond later on, and because DIO never hated Polnareff and would be perfectly fine letting him get revenge on him for his own satisfaction since DIO never trusted Enyaba and her kid anyway.
And if dio found out that Giorno existed he would kill is parents not him self and would spoil him
Tbh, given how Dio respected Jonathan in the actual timeline, I can see Wamuu being that equivalent
Also Dio would be able to stop time for hours, since jotaro doesnt split him in half
*jonathan
@@nyoho5554 they both split him in half rember when jotaro defeated him
@@Niko-ec2ur i know, but I think it was based on that Dio couldn't stop time for long because Jonathans body didn't accept him yet
@@nyoho5554 that wasnt the reason because during the jotaro fight he already gained a few seconds within a few minutes the only thing the body did was make him heal slower
You sure that Dio could become a perfect being like Kars? Kars made that mask to work specifically for his species. Even with the red stone of Aja I doubt the mask would be able to make Dio a perfect being. Heck, the stone was only needed because the mask needed extra power to pierce their skulls.
Even with a stand, Dio would be pretty much powerless against the Pillarmen, as he would not be able to kill them. And while he could potentially have the time stopping ability, all the pillarmen have to do is get into contact with his body to eat him. Considering their speed and reflexes are greater than that of vampires, Dio would probably be fucked.
Exactly, i also said this in my comment, i'm kinda disappointed on this youtuber since he constantly make Jojo content but somehow know nothing about part 2
I think it could work. Since the normal stone mark can turn people into vampires. It’s safe to assume that a red stone mask could turn a vampire into maybe not the Ultimate/Perfect being but could possibly fix his sun problems. All headcanon or theories though
@@TedMcS My head cannon is that since the mask only needed extra power to drive the spikes into the pillarmen's skulls, a vampire would just get their head crushed.
@@TedMcS thats not how stone mask works, it doesnt actually give anyone who wear it super power, its simply a tool to unlock a species untapped potential by piercing their brain, and the red stone doesnt give additional power to the user or anything, it simply power up the mask itself to make it strong enough to pierce pillarmen thick and durable skull, so yeah, normal vampire wearing a red stone mask will simply get their head crushed because of the mask pressure
And i'm not talking about headcannon or theory, since its explained by Kars himself in the anime and manga.
Your homemade sound effects, voice acting and editing is amazing, the parts with the like 3d models of the Pillar Men and Dio was funny
Any fanfic where speedwagon dies should never exist
But he dies in canon. Unless you meant killed.
@@rah8693 Speedwagon doesn't "die", he got bored of earthlings and decided to be god again
@@schwellenangst1605 yes
Wammu would have the likeliest chance of beating Vanilla Ice- He can simply see the gaps in the air and dodge with the wind and his athletic prowess. Even if Vanilla tried to get close, he’d have to come out to look sometime. That’s where Wammu wins. It’s a very short battle about:
Wammu finding out the ability of Cream in around 2 seconds (400IQ momento)
Waiting for Vanilla to come take a look, as he notices the up and down movements like a routine.
Simply waits out of Vanilla’s range.
Dives in and tears Vanilla to shreds with the *DIVINE SANDSTORM!*
Honestly I think people over estimate the speed of the pillar men I mean perfect kara was slower than a 80s plane
@@vegetablackpotato4700 perfect Kars was a bird in the scene with the plane. Do you expect a bird to be faster than a plan, even an 80s plane? Kars was the ultimate being, but he had the limitation of beings. The pillar man even without stands, just with their huge IQ, extreme power, regeneration and speed, could beat most of part 3 stands 1v1. Now, pillar man with stands, as long as those stands aren't totally useless, could flatline DIO easily. Joseph beat them just because of their pride, Hamon (which DIO can't use), a lot of luck and the fact that they didn't take him seriously. The pillar man wouldn't underestimate a vampire like they did with a human and DIO wouldn't have much time to assess the situation and considering his character, he would have more pride then the pillar men combined.
Ok but the setup to the astronaut in the ocean joke was amazing, well done.
This kinda just makes me wanna see "What if (x) jojo villian wins" seiers
kira just goes on with his "quiet life"
Diavolo continues being a mob boss
Pucci achieves heaven
Valentine makes America great again
Tooru makes a lot of cash with the rokakaka
@@jj-yu7km you just ruined the opportunity for in interesting series
@@jj-yu7km but SBR universe is separate from the original universe, so regardless of what happened to DIO, it wouldn’t affect SBR universe
@DaConvertible im not talking about what would happen if dio won, im talking about what would happen if the other villians won
Kars did succeed in his goal though. We see a glimpse of it. And we also saw what would happen if Pucci wins as well albeit only half a chapter
What if Dio managed to win over Erina
Erina is ultimate lifeform
Erina over heaven
That's clearly impossible...
@@VoidStaresback I don’t disagree, but inagine a whole world where are the Jojo’s are actually now Brando’s. Imagine what could be different, for example Jotaro but Blonde.
@@RSRye Blond Jotaro don't exist... he can't- FUCK I DREW HIM!!!
8:10 For some reason Ganon’s theme being here just goes so well
My guy DIO knows what’s going down in the deep and just like kars his brain goes numb
Kars got a mental freeze
because dio talked to much, and put that shit in slow motion yeah
HOLY SHIT, I never knew that diavolo was the reason why dio got THE WORLD.
He’s responsible for so many character deaths so I think that’s why Araki gave him an infinite death sentence
i don't think red stone mask will evolve dio at all, the stone mask is a tool to activate the untapped potential in a species/race, in this case human potential is becoming vampire, the red stone is needed *only* for pillarmen because they have thicker skull than human and the red stone works to power up the mask to be able to pierce their skull and unleashing their true potential, which is becoming ultimate lifeform. So yeah, the red stone mask is useless for Dio.
With tjis mentality, would the stone mask instead be used like the Stand Arrow, in it would power up The World if in the scenario of Dio already having the world went to look for the cure for sun weakness? There is new potential to be tapped there, so using it on The World could be an idea
Bold of you to assume there's a limit to DIO's potential
"Sure, heaven might be strong, but Family is stronger." -Jonathan Joestar 13:08
When you realise that only Giorno could stop him now: w o w
but he never got jonathan's body so giorno isnt born: w o w
@@kurtangelomadriaga2227 i was talking about the Fight Jotaro vs DIO
@@koichihiroselemecfiable1669 ah ok
GER won’t be able to stop him once he gets The World Ultimate Lifeform Over Heaven
Cuz in EoH you can see he deflects giorno’s “return to zero” pretty quickly
@@imnotsus132 i mean Over Heaven is hard to get (Jotaro got it by copying DIO lmao) since pucci meeted DIO alot of years ago so for the plan of heaven it should've been hard to have made in Heaven
The only reason dio was so profound in part 3 was because of his time underwater, and we know for a fact that a stand reflects a person spirit. So a dio that didn’t spend time under water would have a diffrent spirit than a dio that did. So if p1 dio had a stand would it be diffrent than the world?
If dio won imagine how morioh turned out, worst city ever
and kira wouldn't be the same cuz of the butterfly effect lol
@@keshte380 he would be part 8 kira
@@keshte380 I think Kira would still be the same, except he truly lives a quiet life without any interruption
@@ackreikthecouncils.6449 Nah fate would absolutely change for kira cuz of the butterfly effect. He won't be the same kira we see in part 4
@@keshte380 instead of hands it's gonna be feet
There was just a minor misconception here - like nearly all time manipulation abilities, T.E., Time Accel. Time Stopping is actually universal. In part 4, Jotaro just needed to get into punching range, not timestopping range, since he could only stop it for 2 seconds and if he was too far, it'd resume before he could pull anything off.
So Dio doesn't actually have a range limit on TS.
Nor does jota kujo
How he said "THE WORLD" during around the middle of the void is actually nice
Ultimate Lifeform Dio Over Heaven would be epic.
could you imagine if araki had a series, it was called “what if…” and it showed everything that COULDVE happened, like if dio won or kars won or diavolo won or if speedwagon learned hamon, but it was all like non canon, like stuff like deadmans questions, but it shows stuff that COULDVE happened after certain events
Honestly if part 9 never happens this would be the best thing ever
So just marvels what if jojo edition
Or What If Dario never met George: either George never found the mask or Dario ignores bodies
@@marko-gj1uj long story short like in every case where DIO doesn't become a vampire, Kars wins in part 2
And infamously, what if Alessi used Set (his stand) on Joseph instead of Polnareff?
I think the whole point of the red stone of aja is that it enables the masks to pierce the more developed pillarman brain, since the regular mask can’t. A regular mask does work on a normal person, but since they aren’t a pillarman, it just makes them a lesser pillarman or a vampire.
Dio's Blizzare Adventure would be fun to watch
Oooooo imagin dio slowly becomes a good guy with character development and whatnot
@@SebastianAPadilla nah... Dio shouldn't become a good guy. Maybe a little less evil but not a good guy
Yo kaleb ive been watching your vids for a while now and i really hope u reach around 700-800k subs by the end of the year, HECK even a million
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the way you used oot ganon battle theme in the beginning was an absolute cinematic experience
As he’s a vampire, I’m guess him conquering humanity won’t be enough for him
Well if he gets old enough he might aswell go extremely insane or just be blank and get bored of conquering
@@eminemcruz6384 the pillar men didnt go insane
@@majungasaurus6814 Because they still didn't conquer the sun and has an objective and they can turn into stones
@@happyguy1341 if dio became the ultimate being, he could probably turn into stone too
@@majungasaurus6814 I don't really get how pillar men and vampires work but I remember Kars was born a vampire and used stone mask meaning there might be a difference between Dio's ultimate life form and Kar's ultimate life form maybe
Imagine Pucci not achieving heaven because DIO did it and thought he doesn’t need to
5:29
Perfect Voice Acting.
Hands Down Scenario 1 Is the best, It would def have best story line if animated
DIO: Is a Lawyer
Video Background Music: Cornered
The thought of dio being the ultimate life form AND having the world : over heaven is scary. completely invincible, can transform into anything, can have any stand in it's ultimate over heaven form with their own unbelievably overpowered over heaven abilities.
In the first Scenario what if dio found a royal who was interested in his powers like the German Kaiser or a Russian tsar
Probably nothing, they all taste the same
I like this idea you present, Dio himself is a very interesting character to delve into and if he were to have won. I also like the idea you gave to Heaven DIO since while he is busted, he needed a bit of a blowback to all the power he had acquired which I like with the range system and the alternatives in his ending with Gio and Pucci. Very good stuff
I don't think Dio would've tested the arrows on others if he knew that you could get immense power from them, i dont think he would risk anyone being able to be stronger than himself
9:21 He's going to finally become a lawyer
7:10 this part just makes me laugh so much
_4 Pillarmen._ Don't forget Santana. Seeing as he'd still be alive in the DIO Vs Pillarmen scenario.
6:02 if we’re talking about Dio having a stand I think he wouldn’t master it so we can call that dio shadow dio because as kind of a JoJo fan some people will know if dio did not master the world like stopping time or it time skip that means he should become shadow dio That’s only the one thing I just want to point out
Eh but still I mean if you think about it shadow Dio has been in every single JoJo thing like Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure eyes of heaven even Roblox games has shadow dio and even in the anime has it Because it’s when he first got his stand so still
@@BlandyBoiYT it is, you are an episode skipper
@@BlandyBoiYT no one was talking about shadow the world.
Pucci: hi who'r you
Dio: outta my way loser
Pucci: 😔
stone ocean alternate ending
I like how you made in incorrect grammar to make it was more funni 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
10:41 literally the best part in the video
dio is probably the most important character in jojo if dio didnt exist well no part 1 no part 2 no part 3 part 4 isnt as good part 5 no giorno means no part 5 part 6 no pucci and many characters part 7 doesnt exist part 8 doesnt exist as well
and many other things damn dio is so important🤯
Yeah but Dio, excluding Diego has literally nothing to do with part 7 or 8 nor has he cause any of the events in part 7 or 8, so why wouldn’t they exist? Please don’t tell me you’re referring to the Reddit theory “PUCCI KILLED EVERYTHING IN EXISTENCE AND IT CREATED PART 7 AND 8!”
I think he's saying that if did didn't befriend Pucci Pucci wouldn't have done the whole universe reset thing and part 7 and part 8 wouldn't exist
Parts 7 and 8 are independent from the orginal universe so there's that.
@@akipurple7173 yeah but it's been confirmed that parts 7 and 8 are in a different universe, unnaffected by Mih
10:45 WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT RO-
1:05 that's what you think, but he is SPEEDWAGON! SPEEDWAGON NEVER DIES!
What would happen if dio survived against Jotaro, Runs Away to survive, and come back when he has the oportunity to defeat the Joestar Bloodline and Get a Requien Arrow? Or just get the requien arrow?
Requiem as shown is never only limited to the beetle arrow, so i doubt that would happen. Dio would never have to get a requiem stand as like, whats the point. He would most likely try to achieve heaven and eyes of heaven happens. The rest of the joestars peobably wouldnt be aware as giorno and josuke do their own thing, not knowing about dio and stuff. Honestly josuke would of probably died or family would of moved as kira slaughters the people of morioh uncontested.
@@udorino He didn’t say he HAD to get the arrow nor did he say Dio WOULD get the arrow. He said what if. Thank you for stating the obvious.
*intense ger noises*
the pillar men adventure: dio's encounter
wait wait wait, can Dio even become an ultimate lifeform? I was pretty sure that was specific to pillarmen. They made the masks to achieve it but the masks didn't pierce deep enough yet the masks, as they were, worked as intended on humans. That told me that humans hadn't evolved far enough to evolve like the pillarmen would with a mask.
7:30 this is my favorite part (like if it is yours too)
7:06 the lip-sync is good
Lol. I just finished your video 4 yrs ago saying, “that’s why I didn’t do a Dio won video, cuz this game already did that”. Then I saw this video in the recommendations. Haha. Gave me a good laugh.
If Dio won eyes of heaven would be Canon
Well the Eyes of Heaven story and art is made by Araki, so it is canon. It says his name in the credits.
Well eyes of heaven isn't really canon rn
@@sloptimus_prime1268 in my mind, anything that’s written/created by the original creator is canon, but I guess it depends on who looks at it.
DIO becoming a therapist is the spin-off I wanna see
Ur narrating skills make me wanna cry in joy
What if Dire Killed Dio
I would love Eye's of Heaven animated into a movie one day after part 8 ios animated imagine a what if movie for JoJo's with Eye's of Heaven DIO as a villain !!
For some reason the line of “After enough pummelling of Wamuu” cracks me up so hard.
Hello! I was wondering if you could do Part 1 dio brando vs Part 3 DIO in a "who would win". I feel like that would be a very interesting concept and I've looked it up and no one has done that type of analysis before. Love your videos!
Obviously Dio part 3 wins. Both are vampires but with The World he can easily destroy the other Dios head and avoid getting attacked with the ability of stopping time
idea: dio tries stabbing the world eventually with the arrow and gets the world requiem.
The description of the fight against the Pillar Men got me rolling! You got a sub from that
You forgot one major thing about dio vs the pillar men. Dio does know how to use hamon. He would probably just stop time and kill them all with hamon before they could even react.
Hamon would burn his body throughout ...
@@MatthewTheUntitled Oh yeah you’ve got a point.
Okay, but when straitzo used hamon in part 2, it killed him from the inside out. The same would happen to do.
@@khalilnevels8926 I mean he can cut off his own head and find another body before hamon gets him.
Stands aren't a thing during the hamon period so it would be impossible enless he discovered stands and stand arrows earlier
This video was lit. Could you make one talking about what would happen at the end of Giorno’s infinite death loop attack? Since there are lots, but not infinite, deaths on this world and elsewhere, I think it would fit.
DIO winning early in part 1 could lead to much different outcomes from him winning later on. I’m glad you take that into account.
Worth noting Stands *do* arise through intense will to self-improvement, and some people are simply born with them, so it's possible a victorious Part 2 Dio would be taken out by a natural Stand user in the Battle Tendencies era before he ever got his hands on an Arrow. Now, Part 2 Dio may well develop the mind-control flesh buds he used in Part 3, as these seem to be an outgrowth of his vampiric nature rather than his Stand, which could allow him to take control of a Stand user like he did to Kakyoin.